#h1-for-new-players

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clever path
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I hate the ||jars||

ebon dew
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What about stubborn defiance

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Do u have to pay 600 to get it to lvl 1?

formal rover
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you mean ||phase 2 is easier?||

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if so i agree

clever path
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||Phase 2 is easier||

formal rover
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Do u have to pay 600 to get it to lvl 1?
@ebon dew there is only level 1 with SD

clever path
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||He summoned 3 rapid fire snipers total phase 1||

formal rover
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that’s the trade off

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||champion greatbows ought to be banned||

gaunt raven
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Hate how you absolutely must drop everything you're doing and focus them ASAP

clever path
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^

formal rover
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yeah

clever path
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Which leaves you open to the main guy’s attacks

gaunt raven
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Same applies in Elysium but its a lot more bearable there because you don't have a whirlwind of invisible death on your ass but still

formal rover
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unless your build can kill hades ludicrously fast (which sometimes it can) they really force you to deal with them

clever path
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On the plus side I killed Theseus without trouble this time

gaunt raven
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gratz

clever path
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I prefer Zeus, Artemis, and Athena for my shield

urban hound
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whats the best way to win im 95 percent there to the end them "someone" kills me

formal rover
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Same applies in Elysium but its a lot more bearable there because you don't have a whirlwind of invisible death on your ass but still
@gaunt raven ||also no champion greatbows||

gaunt raven
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only difference is how long you gotta focus them lol

clever path
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They can take a ridiculous beating ||in the final fight||

formal rover
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whats the best way to win im 95 percent there to the end them ||”dad" kills me||
@urban hound final boss indentity is a spoiler

tawdry rose
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my hud is hidden, what's the key to unhide it?

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it's not in controls

clever path
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Does ||Demeter|| unlock now that I’ve fought the final boss?

urban hound
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oh sorry @formal rover

formal rover
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no worries

urban hound
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but does anyone know a good idea to beat the game

clever path
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|| on both sides of the text mark a spoiler if you can’t do it normally

urban hound
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i get so close

tawdry rose
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is my HUD being hidden a bug?

late mango
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She should @clever path

formal rover
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@tawdry rose press B

late mango
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What part of hud is being hidden?

clever path
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Shield, Athena keepsake, Zeus keepsake, and hope for Artemis and good boons

tawdry rose
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B doesn't do anything

late mango
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because it shouldn't always show your entire boon list

tawdry rose
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all of it

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can't see gold, hitpoints, anything

late mango
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I would relaunch

formal rover
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that’s a bug then

tawdry rose
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esc pulls up menu, can open codex

formal rover
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f10 it

tawdry rose
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progress is saved if i restart?

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or the run

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i mean

ruby condor
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it really wasn't hard to get to the final boss once you get pass elysium

clever path
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^

ruby condor
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first try on final boss, let's go

lyric forge
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Good luck mate.

formal rover
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should be saved yeah

clever path
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Theseus and ||Hades|| are walls imo, with Theseus being the bigger one

tawdry rose
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thanks

ruby condor
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I have hera bow with exit wound and hermes's quick reload so I shouldn't be lacking in damage

clever path
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||Hades seems more like a “Meg” wall (aka someone that probably will only take another run that reaches him to beat)||

lyric forge
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The bull and the dull are certainly a hindrance. Getting through these guys halfway intact is often a requirement to finishing the run successfully.

formal rover
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if it isn’t, i think there’s some stuff about save recovery in #h1-tech-fixes

crude jacinth
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I was wondering how I progress my relationship with Skelly, it says that there's a lock on my relationship now and to learn more I need to deepen my relationship but I don't know how

lyric forge
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The usual way to deepen your relationship with someone is to keep talking to people.

crude jacinth
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I stopped getting the yellow exclamation mark over him

lyric forge
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Skelly will actually give you a quest to do, I think.

clever path
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I can’t help but feel like I’m picking boons that would be more helpful with another god

crude jacinth
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oh is it automatic?

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I've given him max amount of necter for now

lyric forge
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He should ask you for a favor at some point, although that might be gated by other means.

crude jacinth
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and no quest for the last few runs

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ah ok

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ty

lyric forge
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According to the wiki with Skelly in particular you need to have ||unlocked three non-Zagreus aspects on the weapons|| before he'll give you the quest.

crude jacinth
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ah crap ok ty dang I already spent it all upgrading the shield

lyric forge
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That's fine, there'll be lots more coming and while Skelly does give you a special reward after his favor is completed, it's also not all that necessary.

clever path
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Does god mode buff you if you ||win by beating Hades||?

crude jacinth
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Ah yeah for sure, I just like Skelly he give me Hanbei vibes from Sekira haha

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ty again

lyric forge
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I think the God mode buff gets reset upon successful completion of a run. Can't say for certain though, haven't used god mode at all.

formal rover
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pretty sure it doesn’t

lyric forge
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IIRC god mode gives a 20% damage reduction baseline that gets increased up to a total maximum of 80% every time you die. Don't know for sure though.

formal rover
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never used it either, but my understanding is that it just keeps scaling

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yeah it increases by 2% each death

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no way it could get to 80 ever if it reset every run

lyric forge
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Oh, alright.

formal rover
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i’m pretty sure, anyway

late mango
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It doesn't

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It continues to scale regardless of successful run completion

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I don't think it ever decreases

ruby condor
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ah damn it
the final boss will take some getting used to
that spin swing is way too big

late mango
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It is massive but it's quite easy to dodge if you focus on it

lyric forge
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It does get telegraphed fairly well though.

late mango
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now you know of it you know the importance of dodging it

lyric forge
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Also the amount of people that beat the final boss on their first try is probably very low.

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I for sure didn't.

ruby condor
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should I bother with killing the skulls

formal rover
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very few people have even managed a new save clear ever, let alone doing it first try

lyric forge
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It's not strictly speaking necessary as their detonation can be dodged but it's helpful if you have a bit of room. Otherwise the overlapping circles can cause some issues.

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Plus there's a lot of other things going on.

formal rover
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yeah i usually leave it to explode if there’s only one, but try to clear a couple if he drops 2 or 3 at once

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but you’re better off being hit my the explosion than his spin attack, so don’t get distracted

ruby condor
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each olympian god's keepsake only works once per run?

formal rover
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yep

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the +20% rarity boost remains tho

gaunt raven
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Does it not retain the chance at better quality?

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ah good

ruby condor
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for hera bow, would it be best start with dio or artemis then?

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or someone else?

formal rover
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i like dio

lyric forge
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Dio's cast in general is pretty awesome, and Hera removes the weakness it has that you can otherwise only remove with a duo boon.

ruby condor
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what weakness?

formal rover
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might as well still get Ice Wine tho

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it still good

lyric forge
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The weakness is that it lobs.

formal rover
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it’s a lobbed shot that takes time to land

lyric forge
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Hera Dio shot detonates almost immediately.

ruby condor
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dio cast no longer counts as lodged in enemies right?

lyric forge
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If you get Ice Wine (Dio x ||Demeter|| duo boon) it also removes the lob effect, but that can be slightly unreliable. Still worth going for even with Hera.

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Yep.

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Dio and Ares don't lodge at all, Poseidon also doesn't lodge if used with two certain duo boons.

ruby condor
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how long does it take for dio cast to return?

late mango
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It varies based on your setup

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If you're using a cast weapon like hera you should typically just cast shoot cast shoot cast shoot, and you'll always have one to fire

thick hornet
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Hi pals!
Would gladly receive some advices on how to defeat Elysium's final bosses. Their hp is so thicc, I will punch them forever xDDD Any tips?

lyric forge
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Go for the bull first.

ruby condor
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shoot them individually?

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rather than 3 cast at once?

late mango
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Yes

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doing so also makes it to where if you miss a shot it's not as punishing

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if youre using hera

lyric forge
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Taking on Theseus first gives some nasty additions to the fight once he phases, whilst still having to dodge his spears and the deranged cow with a battle axe.

late mango
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my suggestion for 3rd boss is you focus whoever you're most comfortable with, but if you go for ||thesus|| first

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you need to burst him

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on phase 2

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If you have a companion i'd suggest getting them grouped to hit them both at the same time

lyric forge
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Agreed with Ex though, if you focus Theseus first, you need to kill him quickly once he phases.

late mango
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The godsend on that matchup though is good backstab damage

lyric forge
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Also good to know: every time Theseus throws his spear he will walk away from you, guaranteed. That's your cue to hit him.

late mango
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if you can get an athena boon to increase that you can really hurt

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Another thing is burst damage is useful for the fight. and arc things like dio cast can hit in most circumstances against|| thesus||

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The other boon that really helps is a dash boon, sprint boon, or movementspeed buff from hermes to help you outrun ||asterius||

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TLDR: Get backstab damage from ||chaos|| or athena, mobility perks from hermes can help you outrun asterius, high burst type of attacks like 60 base and take percent modifiers, when either of them turn their backs unload an attack or two onto them, arc damage can more reliably hit|| thesus||

thick hornet
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!!!thanks for the tips!!! Try it next time!

pastel lintel
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Which aspects would give me the most bang for my buck with the first six titan bloods? I'm kind of hesitant to try any of the 2-blood aspects or invest deeply

lavish gazelle
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Hera is really solid at level 1

pastel lintel
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I don't really get what that one does

late mango
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It imbeds your arrows with casts

lavish gazelle
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cast 3 times and fire and your arrow does its normal damage + 150

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if you have a special cast, it comes out when the arrow hits

late mango
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So my suggestion for the 6 weapons is
Sword: ||nemesis||
Shield ||zeus||
spear: ||achilles||
rail: ||hestia||
Fists: ||talos||

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all of those work well with just one rank

jaunty mist
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So im new to the game, literally got it today and the furthest i have gotten is elysium, i have this diamond thing and titans blood? what do i do with them lmao

burnt crane
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I took the one where if you land a shot, your special homes in automatically for like three specials worth.

late mango
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I don't think that one is very good until you have it maxed

burnt crane
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Oh on that note...is there a mechanic to respec blood like you can with darkness?

static vessel
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no

late mango
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No

burnt crane
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I only did one level on that so I’m not disappointed though

late mango
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If you want to try something out buy it, go on a run and select give up

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and it'll refund your titans blood

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Otherwise your locked in

pastel lintel
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yeah I actually took Chiron already, it's nice but feels dependent on the +4 shot upgrade at lv1

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ooh that's good to know

burnt crane
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I did ||Hades|| spear and ||Chiron|| bow

late mango
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I really dislike that spear aspect

burnt crane
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Nothing else so far

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||Hades||? Damage buff after swing seemed nice

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||Punishing Bonus Damage
(+30% / +60% / +90% / +120% / +150%)

for Attack / Special for 10 Sec.

Also increases Spin Attack radius||

late mango
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here's why
||You have to use charge, and it only applies to autos & specials.

Achilles applies to attacks & casts (which is more of a preference thing), but applies higher percents all the way until that last rank where it's equal. It's way easier to throw a special in than a charge. Especially since the charge time doesn't get lowered hades aspect, and getting hit at all cancels the charge.||

burnt crane
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sorry for any game mechanics spoilers...was on mobile and not thinking

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and agreed about getting knocked out of charge...I've found the easiest way for me to pull it off somewhat consistently is attack then charge while enemy is in hitstun, but then if you're facing more than one enemy it's not consistent

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or if you're trying to charge up spin for any longer length of time...

late mango
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exactly my point, using|| achilles|| has no reliance on positioning or the enemies your against. It's always going to work

burnt crane
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it would be cool if ||aspects|| of each weapon counted as ||a different weapon|| for the purposes of getting ||titan blood|| drops and stuff. Probably too generous though.

jolly wagon
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^ haha, yes I would like that...but it would probably make things too easy lol 😅

late mango
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It kinda takes too long to level up everything

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and once you do you have nothing to do with it

burnt crane
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replay value I guess

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destiny 2 conundrum where there was nothing worth grinding for after a while

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when the game first came out

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I'm loving this so far though...been playing after work every day and played on my weekend when I bought it...and before work today...risking being late and all lol

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you've done well, red named folks 🙂

gaunt raven
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Good gods why is ||Demeter|| so absurd with Theseus

burnt crane
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oh yeah, I'm sure this is RNG, but the ||bonus room NPCs|| don't get mad if you ||give gifts to other bonus room NPCs|| and stop showing up right? I gave ||nectar|| to ||Eurydice|| and haven't seen ||Sisyphus|| for what seems like several runs now.

rough ginkgo
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i don't think i've seen any of the bonus NPCs in my last few runs, but i'm guessing it's just bad luck

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also i don't think the bonus NPCs are too spoilery?

burnt crane
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eh idk I play it safe in this channel

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after seeing others do the same

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I've been seeing the 2nd and 3rd ones but not the first one...so probably just RNG

rough ginkgo
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fair

fervent tapir
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Does buying decor overlap other decor for the same area? Or can you buy everything and it all displays?

barren kestrel
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u can buy all and then u change for what u like

fervent tapir
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Ooh, where do u go to edit the decor? :0

gaunt raven
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Same menu where you buy them, below anything else you can buy

fervent tapir
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Ooh gotcha! Makes sense lol thank you

gaunt raven
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So what does Boiling Blood even do?

leaden whale
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Enemies with cast in them take more damage

burnt crane
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yeah, according to the wiki: Each rank gives you +10% Attack & Special damage to foes with Cast Ammo in them. (capped at 50%)

leaden whale
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Is there a difference between the switch version and the pc version?

gaunt raven
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hmm the wording on that implies its accessible to the player?

leaden whale
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Yeah

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You get it after upgrading the mirror

gaunt raven
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OH its the same one?
What rank does final boss use?

leaden whale
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Bruh its for new players

gaunt raven
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Bruh I got the game only a week ago

ivory ocean
pulsar frigate
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final boss spoilers: ||his boiling blood version causes you to take double damage||

leaden whale
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Bruh I got the game only a week ago
@gaunt raven i got it yesterday

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@leaden whale Same and I barely played for 3 hours

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Im addictds to this game

gaunt raven
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Does that somehow invalidates my 'new' status? 🤔

leaden whale
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what is a new status

gaunt raven
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Being new to something

ivory ocean
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new refers more to have progression than time played

leaden whale
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Idk exa, what is a new status

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idk either 🤣

ivory ocean
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@leaden whale please don't avoid the language filter

leaden whale
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Wild guess, it means you're new

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@leaden whale please don't avoid the language filter
@ivory ocean sorry

ivory ocean
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it's alright 👍

leaden whale
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I have a question

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Is the switch version different from the pc one?

simple juniper
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yeah

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its on switch

burnt crane
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720p resolution for one, which doesn't really bother me, even while docked on my 60" TV

leaden whale
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I mean

simple juniper
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XD

leaden whale
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In-game

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Like different side quests or stuff like that

burnt crane
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unless it somehow scales up and I'm mistaken

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oh lol

ivory ocean
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no the game is the same

leaden whale
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Oh ok

burnt crane
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that is a good question...I was also wondering if it was on a different patch schedule or anything but figured not

leaden whale
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Because usually ports are different from each other

burnt crane
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should be Switch exclusive weapons. Master Sword, Fire Flower, Samus Arm...Animal Crossing fish to beat enemies with or something lol

leaden whale
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Lmao

burnt crane
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ooo Zelda weapons would be awesome...Master Sword aspect, Hylian Bow aspect, Bombchu casts...

leaden whale
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Yeah

burnt crane
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could add a Hammer type weapon down the line and get the OoT hammer in there whatever its name is

leaden whale
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Honestly zag would fit pretty good in smash

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(Besides the fact that he cant jump)

jagged vortex
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zag can just dash upwards, easy

burnt crane
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ya know I never thought of that lol

jagged vortex
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also zag can jump to do his sword special, smh

burnt crane
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do they lampshade that in the game? (without spoilers)

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oh right

jagged vortex
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the dash up thing was a joke, but technically you can dash up a ledge just fine

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so presumably it can go upward?

leaden whale
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Kinda

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Maybe you can use a hermes boon or something

burnt crane
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a 'float' boon or passive would be kinda neat...totally avoiding traps and not needing to dash over gaps in the floor...like the wings in Gungeon

jagged vortex
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could also make it like aether/final cutter where he uses the leap version of the sword special and makes an AOE when he lands with it

deft furnace
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I'm currently watching the No Clip documentaries, and the rail used to make Zag Float

burnt crane
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huh, neat

leaden whale
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Ok but what about hades 2: norse mythology

burnt crane
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Zag x Kratos

jagged vortex
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nah, we gotta go with hades 2: Pluto
it's like the first one but slightly different

leaden whale
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Hades 2: pluto: not a planet anymore

burnt crane
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For the keepsakes that ensure your next boon is from a specific god, I guess I could test this myself or consult Mr. Google, but it's only useful to keep them on for one biome right? other than for leveling purposes. Like they don't reset per biome right? I know others like ||coin purse|| are similar one-time effects as soon as they're equipped.

leaden whale
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I just use the cerberus keepsake all the time

pulsar frigate
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it's just one time per run, yes

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the rarity bonus is passive though

leaden whale
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Whats the main weapon you use btw

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Mine is the gun

pulsar frigate
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bow mains rise up

burnt crane
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I've been using whatever gives me the darkness bonus for both that and variety and fun tbh

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once I have enough to get mirror upgrades all squared away how I like them I'll probably settle on one...liking spear and bow though

leaden whale
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Gun and spear are the only weapons i can actually play with and not die lol

jagged vortex
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don't really have a main, I like all the weapons except coronacht (which I tolerate)

leaden whale
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Coronacht?

jagged vortex
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I didn't like shield much, but then I got aspect of zeus

burnt crane
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I've been starting out with Athena boon on runs recently hoping for good deflect boons. Before that I was using coin purse after maxing out tooth, which I now put on around 3rd biome depending on my situation.

jagged vortex
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bow

leaden whale
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Oh

burnt crane
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my current run is gun, but my switch is at home so...yep

jagged vortex
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I really like aspect of zeus, it's like having your own blade rift that you can stack other god effects on

leaden whale
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You can cross save

burnt crane
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I'm at work anyway

leaden whale
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Oh ok

burnt crane
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just discording it up is risky but I'm not busy

leaden whale
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Whats aspect of zeus lol

burnt crane
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I heard shield was fairly OP before last patch

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in one aspect/build anyway

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I do like the Captain Zagreus feel to it

jagged vortex
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aspect of zeus is a shield aspect where instead of throwing it, you launch a spinning disc like a blade rift, and you can hit the button again to pull it back

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unlike other shield mods, you can still attack while it's out though

golden bluff
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Also doesn't disable you from using the shield for other stuff when it's away.

leaden whale
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I dont use the shield at all lol

jagged vortex
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I don't like the shield as much as other weapons anyway, I find its normal attack to not be incredibly fun to use, and the throw feels really weak

burnt crane
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one boon I did really well with on bow was that one that makes your arrows chain from enemy to enemy

golden bluff
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I just got the game yesterday. Been 20 or so odd attempts. Reached ||Hades|| 3 times with shield... Got rekt

jagged vortex
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it just doesn't have the same crunch as some of the other weapons

golden bluff
leaden whale
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Hitting all the time with the gun is really satisfying

burnt crane
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that sad cat is me having the game for like 3 days and still being in ||Elysium||

leaden whale
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Im stuck in elysium too

gaunt raven
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What are you struggling with

leaden whale
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Low hearts

burnt crane
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last boss...I'm kinda risky with my rooms too...been taking a lot of skulls on the way for good stuff

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well, last boss of that biome

golden bluff
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I struggle with not losing my Death charges in the Styx area... Poison... :/

burnt crane
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or just when I face the ||Minotaur|| alone for that matter really even though I beat him 2v1

gaunt raven
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Low hearts as in you're taking a lot of damage?

leaden whale
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Yeah

burnt crane
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oh that's one thing I did on my build too that's given me more successful runs...maxed out the mirror passive that gives you up to +50 HP

leaden whale
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I also run out of spare lives

burnt crane
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that...defiance + tooth

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just need to seal the deal with the boss

faint yoke
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i got a question about hades is it a point and click game or do i use wasd to move/joystick

golden bluff
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My last run before I stopped for the day I had all 3 charges + Skelly charge going into Styx... Lost 3 charges to poison.

gaunt raven
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Have you learned the enemies patterns yet?
Focusing the archers?
Staying the hell away from kaboom-wheels?
Dashing a lot from side to side as opposed to back/towards enemies?

leaden whale
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i got a question about hades is it a point and click game or do i use wasd to move/joystick
@faint yoke bruh

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Have you learned the enemies patterns yet?
Focusing the archers?
Staying the hell away from kaboom-wheels?
Dashing a lot from side to side as opposed to back/towards enemies?
@gaunt raven nah just running out of spare lives+hydra

gaunt raven
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Yeah but those pointers prevent you from losing them further lol

ivory ocean
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@faint yoke with hades you move with wasd or the joystick

faint yoke
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thanks

ivory ocean
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for sure

shell elbow
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Can I do anything useful will keys after I ||unlock all the weapons and mirror stuff? I know you can respec, is thay all?||

gaunt raven
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Can be traded for other resources

shell elbow
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Where do I go to do that? Is if ||In the locked door that needs 3 diamonds to unlock?||

gaunt raven
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||In the lounge, when its unlocked. Theres a big shade NPC which lets you trade resources. Big fella, can't miss him.||

shell elbow
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28 runs and I never noticed I could speak to him. Thank you! I just thought he was some cool dude just chilling

burnt crane
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Him and ||Shade Chef 👩‍🍳|| can be talked to

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Or interacted with at least

shell elbow
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I know about the other because he gets the little ! when he has stuff for you

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It's kinda obvious the other dude can be now that I look at that whole general area

indigo fiber
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cant i gift choas the mga ultra potion gift?

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gifted him all normal ones, im his best friend but i cant give him the mega potion :c

dawn niche
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In the mirror traits. The last one called fated persuasion what does the dice represent? It doesnt have an explanation

gaunt raven
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1 dice = 1 available reroll

dawn niche
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Ohhh

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Thanks!

clever path
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What’s better, Ambrosia Delight or Refreshing Nectar?

balmy bay
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can someone explain how affinity works with olympian gods? Why should I give them nectar after getting their keepsake?

burnt crane
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depends on what you've taken so far in my opinion

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which is a crappy answer I know but is true

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I probably take +1 Rarity to 2 boons most often followed by +1 level to 4 boons and then the one that gives increased chance to next 3 but that's just me so far

clever path
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I have a rare Athena divine dash, rare Demeter crystal beam, epic Zeus aid, epic Hermes greater evasion, and rare Hermes greatest reflex

burnt crane
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man I've almost typed boobs so many times...had to backspace twice in that sentence on my PC keyboard

clever path
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Lol autocorrect sucks

burnt crane
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if I have 4 or more I take the +1 level to 4 boons offering

clever path
#

I also have a 35% increase in cast and one extra cast from chaos but I don’t think that’ll effect anything

burnt crane
#

especially if there's a good chance my rarity buff to 2 boons might go to something lackluster

clever path
#

Alright

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Beam, dash, and aid got buffed

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Lol I accidentally bought a pomegranate piece from Charon and got aid to level 4

burnt crane
#

I think I've read that there are diminishing returns after level 2 on most boons as well

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and it generally seems like that

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like rarity increase is generally better once a buff is at level 2 or 3...but even so if I had a ton of boons I'd still take the +1 to 4

balmy bay
#

Does increasing affinity with olympian gods provide any specific benefits besides story progression? I know you get companions from Zag's friends

clever path
#

THE HYDRA JUST MELTED

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I’m feeling good about this run now!

leaden whale
#

@timid rain

clever path
#

Where is the fishing rod?

coarse basin
#

contactor

clever path
#

I mean, I bought it

#

Now what?

balmy bay
#

catch some fish

clever path
#

Where do I do that?

#

And how do I do that?

balmy bay
#

A small glowing ball with a beam of light will show up in certain encounter rooms with "water" you just need to interact with it to catch fish

coarse basin
#

🙂

#

go killl

clever path
#

Whoa Demeter’s and Athena’s duo seems amazing

#

WOW THESEUS AND ASTERIUS MELTED TO THIS BUILD

tulip jungle
#

Is this the place to ask a question about a mirror upgrade?

pulsar frigate
#

which one?

tulip jungle
#

Why would someone choose gods legacy over pride?

#

I meant backwards

#

Pride over legacy

pulsar frigate
#

base boons can often have more effect on a run than duo/legendaries can, especially if you get unlucky with their prereqs or spawns

#

an epic deadly strike might put in more effort than fully loaded might

tulip jungle
#

🤔 yes, i do have had issues with prereqs

#

I understand now

#
  • what exactly does Dark Foresight do?
pulsar frigate
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it increases the chances of finding gold laurel rewards (those being boons, poms, hearts, gold, hammers - all temporary type resources)

tulip jungle
#

Gold booms

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😮

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Im not following im sure I have seen them yey

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*yet

pulsar frigate
#

it's juxtaposed with olympian favor, meaning you can either get less higher quality boons, or less quality common boons with more other stuff in general

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this is old, but it explains what i mean by "gold laurel"

tulip jungle
#

That does explain it clearly

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Ty very much!

pulsar frigate
#

👍

clever path
#

I DID IT!

#

I WON FOR THE FIRST TIME!

thick lynx
#

if i go to heat 9? by turning on extreme measures 4 do i get all the rewards from 1-8 if i didnt get them before? or they are passed until i go to lower heat

sly vigil
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You get the continuation of wherever you left off. Says you got reward for Stage 2 on 5 heat, if yoy go 32, you get stage 3 and 4 reward for that run.

thick lynx
#

ohh I see thanks

ebon dew
#

Is it posible to change your controls for spear in such a way that (using PS4 controls as example), triangle is special and you press triangle to recall, and square to rush to spear. I just unlocked the rush thing and its making it difficult for me to spam the special which is how Ive been beating the bosses

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Does that make sense

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I want to use the same button to throw and recall and a differnt button to rush

sly vigil
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No, afaik

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Just hope you don't get Chain Skewer with it.

ebon dew
#

The muscle memory i got from spamming spear is now messing meup

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Im hardstuck on minotaur and theseus

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Is there a trick or just keep banging against it till you get through

candid nimbus
#

Other than knowing how they behave, I usually kite minotaur away from theseus. Then time the off screen throw

pulsar frigate
#

when theseus spins or throws, he always walks away from your position, turning his back towards you. things that say they pierce will go through his shield. whenever he calls for aid, he is vulnerable from all angles and is basically a sitting duck

late mango
#

TLDR: Get backstab damage from ||chaos|| or athena, mobility perks from hermes can help you outrun ||asterius||, high burst type of attacks like 60 base and take percent modifiers, when either of them turn their backs unload an attack or two onto them, arc damage like dio cast can more reliably hit|| thesus||
@late mango

pulsar frigate
#

spins will always occur in melee. at range he'll throw his spear, which has a very clear audio cue and visual telegraph (dash a little after the reticle turns bright red)

swift pond
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I hang around the bottom of the screen and deal with minotaur first. dash back and forth through minotaur and time my dashes so any spear throws from theseus get stuck in the buildings so I don't have to worry about dodging as much

pulsar frigate
#

his purpose is to facetank your attacks and be annoying while asterius pummels you into the ground. it's a fight that teaches you to have quick reaction times and tests your knowledge of boss patterns by throwing two of them at you

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his tag-team attack (bull horn) has a telegraph in that he will call out to asterius beforehand and slowly walk towards the bull. however, in the heat of combat, this can be hard to see, so keep your eye out

ebon dew
#

Whats the general strategy with up close weapons like fists and sword and shield

#

ive only got to elysium with spear and bow

#

Seems like getting up close on bosses makes you take a big chunk

severe swift
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Im still struggling in tartarus :'))))

neon warren
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pick boons that reduce damage taken

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aphrodite is the best in that regard

clever path
#

Fists I dash up and hit quickly, uppercut if shield, combo if you can stunlock, Sword I dodge and counter, for shield you can charge up the Bull rush and block literally everything in front of you

#

Athena, Zeus, and ||Demeter|| are my personal faves for shield

#

But I’m certain that every god is good for any weapon in some shape or form

rugged hamlet
#

aight guys started today any tips and tricks? need 2 more keys to unlock the fists and besides that ive beat Meg with all the other weapons but thats it, killed the hydra twice with sword and trident

clever path
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Shield is amazing

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When you get nectar spread it around, don’t give multiple to one person until everyone has gotten at least one

#

Always pet Cerberus before every run because he is a good boy

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And learn the patterns of the bosses and don’t expect to win on your first time (boss 3 in particular took me a lot of tries)

rugged hamlet
#

nectar.. is that from the god of wine?

clever path
#

No, it’s a room drop

rugged hamlet
#

the weapon i liked the most so far has been the spear

clever path
#

You’ll know it when you see it

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Then use that

rugged hamlet
#

but i guess shield was good to me lol

#

bow seems harder than anything else

clever path
#

No need to swap to shield because I said so if you love the spear

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Bow is sorta difficult

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Use the special as a “shotgun” attack if you get what I mean

rugged hamlet
#

what the hell do you use the titan blood for? i decided to kill meg with all the weapons i have and i thought it'd unlock something but nope

swift pond
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Eventually you'll unlock gameplay changes for weapons

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You use the blood to activate those and upgrade weapons

rugged hamlet
#

i see

clever path
#

How good is the Broken Spearpoint?

rugged hamlet
#

ill keep going tomorrow since i already spent 5 hours today

clever path
#

Is it worth leveling up?

burnt crane
#

||Than|| just left his prize in the middle of a ||pool of lava|| what the hell lol

severe swift
#

Just a question upgrades with daedalus's hammer only apply for one run right?

swift pond
#

I used it to get me through high heat. It's pretty worthwhile in preventing damage if you're getting overwhelmed

#

Just a question upgrades with daedalus's hammer only apply for one run right?
@severe swift

Yeeeah just per run.

severe swift
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Aight back to the grind i go

mystic notch
#

whats the best god for each weapon?

clever path
#

Personal preference Blizy

mystic notch
#

unlocked all of them still cant reach 3rd stage boss

clever path
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There are better gods than others

#

...but it’s mostly preference

mystic notch
#

like?

clever path
#

I prefer Athena and Zeus for shield

mystic notch
#

focus on special damage?

late mango
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typically sword works anywhere
shield especially poseideon, but anyone who isn't zeus/dio is solid
spear is good anything but zeus/dio/poseideon
rail is especially good zeus/dio attack, then aphro, artemis, athena special
fists same as rail

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It'd be ares for shield if you just want a one off

clever path
#

...

swift pond
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I think you just gotta figure out what works best with whatever attack your leaning on. When I run the shield and manage to get the weapon upgrade that speeds it up or bounces on multiple people I love putting doom on it.

clever path
#

Wait why is Zeus bad for shield

late mango
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it's base attack is slow

clever path
#

He’s done tremendously well for me so far

late mango
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for special it's good

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I made my list for base form of weapons

clever path
#

My winning run was primarily Athena, ||Demeter||, and Zeus

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I’m using a max zag aspect for shield

thorn quarry
#

@clever path I'm relatively new too, but Broken Spear point does really well with the enemies that shoot lasers for consistent damage specifically.

mystic notch
#

what are the best mirror upgrades?

mild mist
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Defiances for sure

clever path
#

Death Defiance

mild mist
#

Extra dash

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Infernal soul is pretty good

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Thick skin is strong

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They all have a use

swift pond
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If you're strapped for darkness 1/2/3+ life for room is helpful in the early game

mild mist
#

Eh its pretty ok

#

you could do without it

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if you want HP equip dog collar

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you can get 150 at the start of the game

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with thick skin

thorn quarry
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Yeah, Death Defiance and Thick skin do great for beginners. Don't forget you get half you health back on death, so they compound well with each other and each health upgrade to get you farther

swift pond
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Thick skin requires like ten keys to unlock? I didn't want to assume they had it already

thorn quarry
#

Ah, makes sense

mild mist
#

True

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Bottom like

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4

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Talents are so good

#

I can't imagine playing without them

severe swift
#

Uhh whats that thing that looks like an exclamation mark and 3 dots around it

swift pond
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Special event

clever path
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Go there

swift pond
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It's a person who is extremely helpful. In most cases you'd probably want to go to that room over any other

severe swift
#

Okey thanks

burnt crane
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@mild mist bottom four like after you’ve unlocked them all or out of the original bunch? I’m actually respeccing right now and deciding on stuff

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I usually go with thick skin, death defiance, extra dash...

lavish gazelle
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the furthest ones down are the lowest priority, they're nice to have, but not at the expense of the ones that give you power outright

#

you wouldn't respec out of Death Defiance to get an extra Fated Authority or anything

burnt crane
#

What’s the consensus on the cast skills? I though casting was generally pretty nice while using them but I guess they kinda pigeonhole you into a cast build?

#

And thank you 🙏

swift pond
#

What’s the consensus on the cast skills?
@burnt crane

Do you mean boons that change your cast or boons that augment your cast after you already picked up a new one?

burnt crane
#

Sorry...mirror skills

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Boiling Blood and Infernal Soul

swift pond
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I always have infernal soul maxed out but I love spamming cast

burnt crane
#

I have 800 darkness after maxing out Defiance, Reflex, and Thick Skin. Without knowing my play style...if you had to pick other skills what would they be.

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Yeah I kind of like it too I think

#

I know I can always respec again. Just curious

lavish gazelle
#

maxing out all of the first 8 mirror talents doesn't take too long, and it's generally assumed you have those maxed

burnt crane
#

Well I have them all unlocked through keys

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Actually hmmm I might be able to max out first 8 with what I have left

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Can always force close app without wasting a key

swift pond
#

I mean if it's choice between the red ones vs the green ones I'd use boiling blood and infernal soul over abyssal blood and stygian soul

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I don't have much experience with stygian soul though.

ornate remnant
#

I tend to use Boiling Blood, though I prefer Stygian Soul

#

lets me fire and forget

vocal nymph
#

I'm a big fan of Stygian, boiling is basically required imo

lavish gazelle
#

don't put anything into the "1% chance per rank of getting X" skills or Fated Authority/Persuasion until everything else is maxed, they're definitely nice to have but they can wait

burnt crane
#

Just short of maxing out first eight haha

lavish gazelle
#

(everything you're actually using, that is)

vocal nymph
#

(also, max out the chance ones before putting too much into rolls, the chance ones are huge huge huge consistency bonuses)

ruby condor
#

got to final boss twice so far with hera bow
still can't beat him though
but feels like I should switch it up
any recommendations?

burnt crane
#

Yeah I noticed that too. Was using chance ones over cast last few runs

ruby condor
#

I know spear and rail aren't exactly beginner friendly

ornate remnant
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shield is always a safe bet

#

it also helps because you have more time to learn their attack patterns

swift pond
#

Rail was my first win. Just dashed away and lob bombs at him. Was hella cheese and v slow

ruby condor
#

the few times I did shield, felt it was lacking in damage

ornate remnant
#

that's because it is xD

#

make good use of the block

deft trench
#

spear

vocal nymph
#

Shield is probably the best weapon kit imo

ruby condor
#

though I can carry ares keepsake and hope for doom

vocal nymph
#

Block block block damage block block block damage lather rinse repeat

ionic widget
#

I like shield its does damage, it blocks it has range and some bosses are just not made for face rushing so I find my self using range attacks and shield covers all bases

molten silo
#

Shield was too slow for me. I’m a Spear lover in the few games that allow it anyways

scenic silo
#

is spreadfiore any good or do i go a special build?

ornate remnant
#

it's pretty good

#

both options are valid though

mystic notch
#

whats the best god for the gun wep?

ornate remnant
#

Zeus is good

sly vigil
#

do you have any aspect?

mystic notch
#

nothing yet

sly vigil
#

if you don't know what that is then zeus

#

hard to beat 100%+ more damage

mystic notch
#

from what?

sly vigil
#

Lightning Strike on Rail is a lot of damage bonus

#

Especially if you get Splitting Bolt also

mystic notch
#

yeah had that last run

#

had hard time vs 3rd boss tho

mild mist
#

3rd boss is a gate keeper

#

from getting good

mystic notch
#

almost beat him with shield

mild mist
#

you're already pretty good then

#

Some people struggle with them

mystic notch
#

died when when he was 5 hits from death

sly vigil
#

third boss is a road block for a lot of people. on rail I would suggest looking for hammers such as Rocket Bomb + Triple Bomb or Rocket Bomb + Cluster Bomb

mild mist
#

Yep

mystic notch
#

honestly i just run and hit

mild mist
#

Thats how you play rogue games

sly vigil
#

those should hard carry you to the end

mystic notch
#

my wep just unlocked skills?

#

how

sly vigil
#

not sure what you mean

mystic notch
#

aspects

sly vigil
#

yeah, you can use titan blood to get those unlocks

mystic notch
#

anything i should focus on first?

sly vigil
#

not really

#

I am partial to Hera Bow

#

with Trippy Shot

#

but all of them are good.

mild mist
#

oK

#

Ima level with you

#

sword is ahrd

#

hard

#

god I cant type

mystic notch
#

noticed

sly vigil
#

sword is hard if you can't do dash strike spam

mild mist
#

4th aspect of sword

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Is braindead easy

mystic notch
#

easiest i found was shield bow and gun

#

and fists

mild mist
#

ok

#

for fists

#

third aspect

#

good

#

really good

#

super good

gritty lichen
#

Mirror of night is all maxed out, and i have alot of darkness

#

Does it unlock more as i progress or is that it?

mild mist
#

second talents

#

the greens

#

you do those?

mystic notch
#

whats the best aspect for gun?

mild mist
#

Eris is really strong on gun

#

nothing beats a damage boost

sly vigil
#

all of them are good

mild mist
#

in my opinion

mystic notch
#

do i have to bomb myself?

mild mist
#

Yes

#

No damage taken tho

#

And

#

you can do it next to an enemy

#

so 2 for 1 deal

mystic notch
#

yeah

mild mist
#

works good

sly vigil
#

you can ask what are people's favorite, but everyone will give a different answer

mystic notch
#

had 5 bomb one last run

#

was crazy

mild mist
#

IT IS CRAZY

sly vigil
#

for example I think Hestia is lowkey op

mystic notch
#

hesta might be good for doom build?

mild mist
#

hesta is what?

sly vigil
#

Does it unlock more as i progress or is that it?
@gritty lichen did you unlock all the tiers below the first?

mystic notch
#

hestia

mild mist
#

Never even heard of it

#

kek

sly vigil
#

bruh

mild mist
#

I use my like

#

2 aspects

#

religiously

#

nothing else

#

what does it do

sly vigil
#

if you manually reload

mild mist
#

yes

#

what happens

sly vigil
#

your first shot does 150 damage

mild mist
#

WHAT

mystic notch
#

dont have zeus keepsake for some reason

mild mist
#

Oh yeah

mystic notch
#

gonna be tough

mild mist
#

I remember that

#

Seemed bad

#

HOWEVER

#

It seems good

#

with like

#

attack increase

mystic notch
#

Lambent Plume seems good with gun

mild mist
#

make primary do as much damage as possible

#

or crits

#

Guys

#

You wanna know something cool

#

whats 2.97 x 6

mystic notch
#

18 ?

mild mist
#

yeah

#

18 seconds of athenas aid

#

LOL.

mystic notch
#

yikes

mild mist
#

cant take damage for a quarter of a minute

mystic notch
#

i kinda like artemis with gun

mild mist
#

What do?

mystic notch
#

seeking arrows works on every bullet

#

and i shoot like 12 every 2 secs

#

so 12 arrows

sly vigil
#

not quite 12 by 12

#

but close

mild mist
#

oh that

#

OH THAT

#

kinda niche

#

tbh

sly vigil
#

it used to work that way but support fire was nerfed

#

but it's still really good on rail, of course

mystic notch
#

rocket bomb seems good

#

but current normal one does 90 damage

#

is this one like faster or something?

sly vigil
#

rocket bomb is really good

#

you need to be pointblank for it to be effective though

ornate remnant
#

no?

#

you can snipe with rocket

sly vigil
#

that and triple bomb or cluster bomb = won run

mild mist
#

triple is way better

sly vigil
#

depends on how greedy you are. triple bomb is the safer choice here

#

but in term of potential damage

#

you can't beat rocket bomb

mystic notch
#

i just run in spam speicals and clear every room

sly vigil
#

all of them are good tbh

mystic notch
#

this is stacking pretyy well

lime ocean
#

lost all 4 death defiances in temple of styx

#

god, I hate poison

#

isn't it the best when you cure poison and get poisoned again

sly vigil
#

have you tried spearpoint in styx?

#

if you have that much trouble with poison?

ornate remnant
#

can confirm, spearpoint helps a ton

lime ocean
#

I'm usually using skelly's 😄

#

I'll see to it

#

thanks

ornate remnant
#

yeah!

lime ocean
#

also, I just confirmed to myself that backstab build is terrible

ornate remnant
#

not necessarily

#

you can rack up some seriously big numbers with stacking backstab

lime ocean
#

I guess 200 from hammer + 76 from chaos and + mirror's weren't enough to convince me

ornate remnant
#

were you consistently getting backstabs?

#

because that actually sounds decent

lime ocean
#

on bosses yeah, it was somewhat decent, but not enough. But it's hard to get backstab on normal enemies, especially with armor

ornate remnant
#

that's fair

sly vigil
#

you will get used to it. it's possible to get consistent backstab damage. practice makes perfect. good luck

lime ocean
#
  • damage to striking undamaged foes, is it useful at all?
#

I don't see how it is

steel patrol
#

I’ve never really bothered with it

ornate remnant
#

eh....ime no, but I haven't used it recently

maiden quail
#

It seems wasteful

steel patrol
#

Seems pointless unless you have a very specific build and if your build’s good enough to use that, it’s probably gonna win anyway

ornate remnant
#

it's good for one-shot builds like Charged (Shot+Minotaur Rush)/Skewer/Throw

maiden quail
#

I can't create a nice synergy among boons is there any guides to read

ornate remnant
#

multiple boons from the same god is generally good

maiden quail
#

Lol seems like the opposite thing I do

ornate remnant
#

otherwise, try to stack status effects like Chill and Hangover

ruby condor
#

question about eris rail

#

For 8 Seconds after absorbing your Special's blast, deal more damage.
what does absorbing special mean

ornate remnant
#

getting hit by

mystic notch
#

press q on yourself

ornate remnant
#

(doesn't do damage)

ruby condor
#

is it any good?

sly vigil
#

(pro tip: don't pick Hazard Bomb with Eris rail)
or do for the ultimate 5gum experience

#

it's really good yeah

ornate remnant
#

wdym that's a pro strat

sly vigil
#

I took Hazard Bomb with Eris live on TV and proceed to die a shameful death shortly after

#

don't recommend

ruby condor
#

does nemesis sword's crit bonus apply to dash attack?

green sorrel
#

not sure this is the right channel but yeah, patch notes for this game are insane. i just wanna know did they ever change how heat rewards work, like (hopefully) if i skip heat on a wep for a few tiers do i get the prev heat rewards or I still gotta grind every tier individually for the first time items?

pastel cipher
#

you'll get the lowest unclaimed bounties, so if you're on heat 3 bounties but use heat 8, you'll get the bounties from heat 3 untill you clear a run

green sorrel
#

oooh ok dope that works for me

ebon dew
#

Almost managed to beat him on 1st attempt

pastel cipher
#

final boss is spoilers in this channel

green sorrel
#

lets me do runs on a proper challenge heat while still grabbing rewards incrementally

pastel cipher
#

@ebon dew

green sorrel
#

that was my biggest pet peeve since i felt like until heat 6 and even then it was kinda jokes and just grinding for the one time items

#

now i can just go right into the madness, thanks

potent merlin
#

I assume the Eris buff doesn’t stack. Yes?

sly vigil
#

no, but the special damage gets buffed by itself

#

if that makes sense

potent merlin
#

Not quite

sly vigil
#

the buff does not stack, so you won't get +150% for absorbing the blast twice

#

but let's say you have the buff and you special, that special will be buffed by +75% since the buff applies to all damage.

potent merlin
#

Oh yeah sure

#

Thanks, makes sense.

signal scaffold
#

Do you guys use aim assist? Is there any downside to using it?

potent merlin
#

I use it. I’m bad at video games so I’m better off with it. It will occasionally do things I don’t intend, but the benefits far outweigh those rare instances.

late mango
#

I use since I'm using controller

potent merlin
#

I play on Switch.

late mango
#

the hitboxes feel really weird without it

signal scaffold
#

Cool, I'll leave it on then :)

late mango
#

but there's really awkward scenarios I run into when using aim assist, I can't throw projectiles infront of enemies most of the time while they're running

#

so if it's a slow projectile they are just guaranteed to miss

#

only matters on map 3

ruby condor
#

so is ||thanatos|| just super rare?

#

haven't seen him after 23 runs

potent merlin
#

Erm, maybe use spoiler tags?

obsidian rain
#

||I think he shows up randomly once you clear the second area and find him||

potent merlin
#

Does Aspect of Hera allow loading multiple casts and firing them at once?

ruby condor
#

yes

potent merlin
#

So that’s why people love it.

analog rivet
#

What's max level of godhood?

lime ocean
#

I feel like this game is too hectic for not to use aim assist

left hull
#

||Thanatos is more likely to show up if you've taken damage in the previous room||

#

||So if you're not seeing him a lot, it's because you're getting better at the game||

analog rivet
#

What about ||Demeter||? ^

ruby condor
#

haven't even seen once, actually

left hull
#

||Demeter shows up after you reach the surface once||

obsidian rain
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||You have to complete a run||

ruby condor
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no you don't

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as long as you reach the final boss

analog rivet
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OK thank you.

weak steppe
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what is the whole "fated choice" thing about when it comes to boons?

ruby condor
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helps you keep track of what you haven't picked in order to fulfill the fated list of minor prophecies

weak steppe
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ahh so its only related to quest hunting and doesnt have some kind of hidden benefit?

lime ocean
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If you poisoned with broken spear point, does it protects from ticks of poison as well?

lyric forge
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Yes.

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It has a fairly long cooldown and a fairly short duration, but when it triggers it will stop poison ticks.

vale pawn
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I can't attach images, but does anyone know how to unlock the last keepsake? I have all of them but the last one on the keepsake menu

lime ocean
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This is awesome, 1.75 sec should be enough to get the antidote most of times

undone garnet
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Is there something I'm missing about trying to get|| Asterius|| to show up in Elysium for the ||Gilgamesh|| ||weapon?|| I've gotten ||Butterfly Ball|| 8 times in a row.

rough ginkgo
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i haven't gotten dark thirst on sword for a good 20 runs, is this normal? i have all weapons unlocked

paper imp
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What’s the “best” keepsake / which should I level up first? I play melee weapons usually

rough ginkgo
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i personally really like skelly's, but i don't start with it, just switch to it late in my runs (when i think i'll need it)

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maybe it's a crutch but i like the security

paper imp
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Remind me what it does again? And are there any I should avoid acquiring right away

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Thank you btw

pale hazel
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you should get them all

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does a prophecy

rough ginkgo
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free death defiance charge

paper imp
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Oh sick

pale hazel
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the achilles one can be pretty good with melee builds

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if u go status heavy

lyric forge
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I can't attach images, but does anyone know how to unlock the last keepsake? I have all of them but the last one on the keepsake menu
@vale pawn That one is gonna take a long while. You need to finish the story.

lime ocean
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Do I need to upgrade all keepsakes for story?

gray haven
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@paper imp
melee in general: Eternal Rose, Owl Pendant, Adamant Arrowhead, Chthonic Coin Purse, Evergreen Acorn
Stygius: Blood-Filled Vial
Malphon: Thunder Signet, Blood-Filled Vial

spare quiver
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Hey guys it seems the dark thirst is always on the sword or bow only and rarely goes to the other weapons (all unlocked). Is it random? Or is it based on usage or something?

lyric forge
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The acorn is awesome pretty much regardless of what you do. Having all the god keepsakes available to gun for specific builds is also a very good idea.

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It's random.

ornate remnant
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Hey guys it seems the dark thirst is always on the sword or bow only and rarely goes to the other weapons (all unlocked). Is it random? Or is it based on usage or something?
@spare quiver it's random, but there isn't anything that ensures it doesn't repeat

spare quiver
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@lyric forge damn ok I'm just having bad luck then @ornate remnant

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Thanks guys

ornate remnant
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sure thing friendly

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you're in the right place!

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more story!

lyric forge
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You can gift further to deepen your relationship with characters, more story and in a few select cases some nice rewards later. In the beginning don't worry too much about it, I'd likely prefer to gift everyone at least once before going deeper with someone.

misty scaffold
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Hello, i would like to ask something too. Google said i have to invest 5 titans blood to the Adamant Rail, but i already bought all aspect in Early Access. What should i do ?

ornate remnant
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@misty scaffold if you're talking about || hidden aspects||, that's a question for #h1-story-discussion

misty scaffold
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Sorry. and thank you.

ornate remnant
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no worries!

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yup

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usually, yeah. Higher rarity is always better, but there isn't anything wrong with picking up a common boon if it's good for your build

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there are a couple (RNG) ways to upgrade later, and you can also improve it with Poms

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yeah, that's totally fine. Though yes, you can play around it a little bit, and leave that slot open for later

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yup. you can get offered an "exchange" from another god, which is guaranteed to be one higher rarity, but you're not guaranteed to be offered an exchange

timber panther
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I feel like it's almost always worth it to just take it

ornate remnant
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sometimes it is worth waiting, but generally the boon itself is more important than rarity

timber panther
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pretty much

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just maintaining a decent "enough" build is kinda the point

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min maxing might be important for like, speedrunning, but improving your chances to maintain high health and overall resources is generally best practice as far as I can tell

clever path
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Does Olympian Favor lower the chance of something being higher than a rare

timber panther
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and taking an important but common boon, if that boon will improve your survivability and damage, then might as well

ornate remnant
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@clever path I don't believe so

clever path
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Oh good

pastel cipher
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no, if it did it would say "rare or better"

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like the Olympian keepsakes do

ornate remnant
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but I don't think it decreases the odds of it being epic?

pastel cipher
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it does nothing for epic boon odds, unless you use God's pride (?) as well which explicitly increases the chance of boons being epic

ornate remnant
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exactly

clever path
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Olympian favor only says “rare”

pulsar wharf
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i know hades was voiced by logan but did he also do the narrator?

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the old man zagreus refers to sometimes

pastel cipher
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yes, Logan voiced the narrator also :3

pulsar wharf
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thanks!

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kinda threw me off for a bit since i knew SG wouldn't dare let anyone else be the narrator

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and also because the narrator and hades seem to be different people

torpid hawk
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does the bonuses for lambent plume go away once you change keepsakes

ornate remnant
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yup

gilded saffron
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Does bonus attack damage also add damage to the dash-strike? I know some things only add bonus damage to dash-strike so idk if they're separate

ornate remnant
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yup

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(except for hammers, they only affect one or the other)

gilded saffron
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thx

potent merlin
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Aspect of Demeter seems lackluster. What’s the max on it?

rapid spruce
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max?

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oh for the fists

potent merlin
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Yeah on the extra hits

rapid spruce
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5

potent merlin
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Are they all 3 levels?

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Meaning all aspects

rapid spruce
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all of the aspects have 5 levels

potent merlin
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Oh wow

dusty knot
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How do you deal with Chaos' addled effect (attacks deal self damage)

potent merlin
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That’s... so much titan blood shadeembarassed

rapid spruce
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for aspect of Zagreus its only 5 shadeohboy

ebon dew
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Is it just me or are melee weapons significantly harder to play than ranged?

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Sword and fists feel a lot more difficult

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Unless you get specific hammer upgrades

visual lagoon
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well that's every game, since melee means you have to get close to the enemy and have less time to dodge attacks

ebon dew
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Yeah but there should be some benefit to that tradeoff

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But you do as much if not more damage with ranged

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Spamming spear throw with backstab does so much more damage than getting up with your fists

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And a lot of encounters are going to chunk you if you dont have deflect as mele

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eg. in asphodel witch's circles

leaden whale
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what's hellmode is it worth going for in first playthrough

visual lagoon
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fists do a lot of damage if you backstab and spam in my experience

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but thats just me, im pretty new too so idk

thick lynx
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after a while all the weapons kind of feel samey when you learn to just dash attack repeat ad nauseum

leaden whale
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so this game is like darksouls ?

pastel cipher
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hellmode imo isn't worth going for in a first playthrough

thick lynx
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its more like dead cells than dark souls

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theres a bunch of 2d soulslike and hades isnt one of them

leaden whale
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what do I choose, divine strike or dash or phalanx shot

pastel cipher
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on what weapon?

leaden whale
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no idea I just beat a few orange guys then athena appeared then this screen came up

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why can't we send screenshots here

marsh ether
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It's the first boon

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So probably flourish

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Oh wait

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I remember different but eh

leaden whale
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guess I'll go with divine strike says 40% more attack damage

marsh ether
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Take dash 100% of the time

leaden whale
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oh okay

marsh ether
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It gives you more iframes

blazing trout
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dash for sure 👌

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That deflect is gold

leaden whale
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oh no I just died wait how do you heal

marsh ether
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You don't

blazing trout
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you don't really heal per say, but you can buy the equivalent of potions in Charon's shop

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if the rng is good with you

marsh ether
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You get your healing later, it's an upgrade and it doesn't work like most other games

blazing trout
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and have other perks with the mirror and boons

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but that's for later

thick lynx
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if you give up a run does it refresh the dialogue in base? thinking of giving up or suicide until I get last aspect unlock dialogue

little vessel
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is ranged the way to go in this game?

thick lynx
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up to yr preference but you can be successful with all weapons

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its probably easier for beginner when you learn boss attacks

limpid mantle
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All weapons are viable

rapid spruce
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^

limpid mantle
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Some just have a steeper learning curve

ionic yarrow
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Fighting ||Hades|| for the first time ever, wish me luck uwu

blazing trout
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good luck!

little vessel
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i made it till the bone hydra level, the rail machine gun seems to be better than others by a margin

marsh ether
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If you give up the save rolls back, you don't get any dialog progression

thick lynx
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oh i see thanks

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when you learn enemy attacks then ranged or melee doesnt make a big difference, its more that you get better at dashes

marsh ether
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At the beginning ranged is safer, so it feels better. When you get accustomed to how everything works it doesn't make much of a difference

ionic yarrow
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||WHY DOES HE HAVE TWO HEALTHS||

glacial iris
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when do you get the fishing rod or how do you get it

blazing trout
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bc he big bad

marsh ether
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I know I transitioned from spear special to spin

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Spoilers man

terse thistle
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hey guys how do i unlock the 4th aspects

rapid spruce
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lol

ionic yarrow
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WHY :(

little vessel
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okay..i am very new to roguelite rpg gameplay, but absolutely loving this game. going to be a great weekend 🙂

rapid spruce
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its pinned in the spoiler chat

terse thistle
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ah ty

glacial iris
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when do you get the fishing rod or how do you get it

marsh ether
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You gotta buy the fishing rod from the contractor

blazing trout
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@glacial iris hmm I think it has something to do with the contractor

glacial iris
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when does it become like unlocked from the contractor? @marsh ether

marsh ether
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That I don't know, but as with everything in this game, when in doubt do more runs and it will unlock eventually

glacial iris
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okay still no luck on beating hades

ornate remnant
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It is a hard game to beat

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If you're struggling against the final boss, keep at it

glacial iris
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i figured that much enjoying it and im sure theres still a bunch to learn and just have to keep playing

ornate remnant
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The main way to improve is to learn enemy attack timings, so you can get better at dodging

blazing trout
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remember to tag with spoilers

ornate remnant
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Wdym, they're just talking about beating the game || ;) ||

blazing trout
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that's a spoiler

marsh ether
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Not really applicable for this convo, maybe a previous one

ornate remnant
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|| I'm making a joke, friend xD It was said in a way that we could just pretend they meant the game, and let it slide ||

blazing trout
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hmm shrug

ornate remnant
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Ye

marsh ether
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|| I mean if you point it out you make it more obvious||

ornate remnant
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You can't do that on mobile

blazing trout
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oh gosh nvm then

ornate remnant
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|| need these ||

marsh ether
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Discord mobile twarts me again

ornate remnant
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That's why whenever I ask someone to tag something, I ask in spoiler tags, like || please tag weapon name ||

marsh ether
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Well the aspect names

ornate remnant
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It was an example xD

marsh ether
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The weapon names are a good spoiler free method to talk about the weapons actually 🤔

ornate remnant
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Yes lol

ionic yarrow
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||Hades|| too op for my newbie soul

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I was so close :(

ornate remnant
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You'll get there!!

ionic yarrow
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Is it normal not to defeat it the first time :x

ornate remnant
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Yup

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Very few people do

rapid spruce
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||The first time I fought him I killed him with like 10 health left, all my death defiance gone, and then me stands back up cause of course he has a phase 2||

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good times

ionic yarrow
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HAHAHAHA

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that was me

ornate remnant
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Yup

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Ditto to that

ruby condor
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does anyone know how many diamonds and ambrosia are needed for everything?

ionic yarrow
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I had both of them ||by the time he had phase 2|| but I ||stepped on the green things that spawned on the ground like a smarty||

rapid spruce
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everything?

ornate remnant
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does anyone know how many diamonds and ambrosia are needed for everything?
@ruby condor a lot

fierce vapor
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Hi y'all. I have ambrosia and Zeus maxed out but idk how to give him it

rapid spruce
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yah a lot

blazing trout
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|| that's perfectly normal, he's kinda the 1st enemy to have DD (death defiance) the same as you, so you don't expect it ||

ornate remnant
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Hi y'all. I have ambrosia and Zeus maxed out but idk how to give him it
@fierce vapor || you need to complete his favor ||

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|| it involves talking to lots of different gods ||

rapid spruce
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@fierce vapor ambrosia is only for certain characters right?

fierce vapor
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I did I think

rapid spruce
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

fierce vapor
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Idk about that but I know Zeus has the heart w a lock on it for ambrosia

ornate remnant
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Yup

marsh ether
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I remember the first time I got to the final boss and I was like "Let's go!" and then ||he instantly did a spin attack and I had a heart attack||

ornate remnant
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That means his favor isn't computer, Dae

fierce vapor
#

Okay so maybe I shouldn't have beelined giving nectars to Zeus first lol

ornate remnant
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Complete*

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Nothing wrong with that

fierce vapor
#

Who should I give my first ambrosia to?

ionic yarrow
ornate remnant
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I put all mine into Artemis at first, nectar wise

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First ambrosia, I'd say aim for || Sisyphus || if you can

fierce vapor
#

Cool :) thanks! I've been having so much damn fun with this game

ornate remnant
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Awesome!

ionic yarrow
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@ornate remnant check my link :x

ornate remnant
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I did

ionic yarrow
#

ODFIJFSOIDJ

ornate remnant
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Could still win from that

ionic yarrow
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I didn't know what abilities he had in ||phase 2|| so i wasted all my hp

ornate remnant
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Fair

ionic yarrow
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also my boons were bad

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didn't deal any damage

ornate remnant
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What weapon?

ionic yarrow
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The two fist

ornate remnant
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Mm, those are actually decent on fist

ionic yarrow
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You can tell boons by image

ornate remnant
#

They scale well with attack speed

ionic yarrow
#

goddamn

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'god'damn get it

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wink

ornate remnant
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Yup :3

ionic yarrow
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how do I unlock ||demeter||

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i saw her in a stream

blazing trout
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|| you just need to reach the final boss, it should unlock her ||

ornate remnant
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Yup

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So should be soon

ionic yarrow
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||Hades|| is the final boss?

blazing trout
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yup

ionic yarrow
#

Oooooh ty!

ornate remnant
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Ye

ionic yarrow
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What's better

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the death defiance 50% or the 30% one

rapid spruce
#

?

fierce vapor
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?

ornate remnant
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Once you have 2+ DD, take that