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||Phase 2 is easier||
Do u have to pay 600 to get it to lvl 1?
@ebon dew there is only level 1 with SD
||He summoned 3 rapid fire snipers total phase 1||
Hate how you absolutely must drop everything you're doing and focus them ASAP
^
yeah
Which leaves you open to the main guy’s attacks
Same applies in Elysium but its a lot more bearable there because you don't have a whirlwind of invisible death on your ass but still
unless your build can kill hades ludicrously fast (which sometimes it can) they really force you to deal with them
On the plus side I killed Theseus without trouble this time
gratz
I prefer Zeus, Artemis, and Athena for my shield
whats the best way to win im 95 percent there to the end them "someone" kills me
Same applies in Elysium but its a lot more bearable there because you don't have a whirlwind of invisible death on your ass but still
@gaunt raven ||also no champion greatbows||
only difference is how long you gotta focus them lol
They can take a ridiculous beating ||in the final fight||
whats the best way to win im 95 percent there to the end them ||”dad" kills me||
@urban hound final boss indentity is a spoiler
Does ||Demeter|| unlock now that I’ve fought the final boss?
oh sorry @formal rover
no worries
but does anyone know a good idea to beat the game
|| on both sides of the text mark a spoiler if you can’t do it normally
i get so close
is my HUD being hidden a bug?
She should @clever path
@tawdry rose press B
What part of hud is being hidden?
Shield, Athena keepsake, Zeus keepsake, and hope for Artemis and good boons
B doesn't do anything
because it shouldn't always show your entire boon list
I would relaunch
that’s a bug then
esc pulls up menu, can open codex
it
it really wasn't hard to get to the final boss once you get pass elysium
^
first try on final boss, let's go
Good luck mate.
should be saved yeah
Theseus and ||Hades|| are walls imo, with Theseus being the bigger one
thanks
I have hera bow with exit wound and hermes's quick reload so I shouldn't be lacking in damage
||Hades seems more like a “Meg” wall (aka someone that probably will only take another run that reaches him to beat)||
The bull and the dull are certainly a hindrance. Getting through these guys halfway intact is often a requirement to finishing the run successfully.
if it isn’t, i think there’s some stuff about save recovery in #h1-tech-fixes
I was wondering how I progress my relationship with Skelly, it says that there's a lock on my relationship now and to learn more I need to deepen my relationship but I don't know how
The usual way to deepen your relationship with someone is to keep talking to people.
I stopped getting the yellow exclamation mark over him
Skelly will actually give you a quest to do, I think.
I can’t help but feel like I’m picking boons that would be more helpful with another god
He should ask you for a favor at some point, although that might be gated by other means.
According to the wiki with Skelly in particular you need to have ||unlocked three non-Zagreus aspects on the weapons|| before he'll give you the quest.
ah crap ok ty dang I already spent it all upgrading the shield
That's fine, there'll be lots more coming and while Skelly does give you a special reward after his favor is completed, it's also not all that necessary.
Does god mode buff you if you ||win by beating Hades||?
Ah yeah for sure, I just like Skelly he give me Hanbei vibes from Sekira haha
ty again
I think the God mode buff gets reset upon successful completion of a run. Can't say for certain though, haven't used god mode at all.
pretty sure it doesn’t
IIRC god mode gives a 20% damage reduction baseline that gets increased up to a total maximum of 80% every time you die. Don't know for sure though.
never used it either, but my understanding is that it just keeps scaling
yeah it increases by 2% each death
no way it could get to 80 ever if it reset every run
Oh, alright.
i’m pretty sure, anyway
It doesn't
It continues to scale regardless of successful run completion
I don't think it ever decreases
ah damn it
the final boss will take some getting used to
that spin swing is way too big
It is massive but it's quite easy to dodge if you focus on it
It does get telegraphed fairly well though.
now you know of it you know the importance of dodging it
Also the amount of people that beat the final boss on their first try is probably very low.
I for sure didn't.
should I bother with killing the skulls
very few people have even managed a new save clear ever, let alone doing it first try
It's not strictly speaking necessary as their detonation can be dodged but it's helpful if you have a bit of room. Otherwise the overlapping circles can cause some issues.
Plus there's a lot of other things going on.
yeah i usually leave it to explode if there’s only one, but try to clear a couple if he drops 2 or 3 at once
but you’re better off being hit my the explosion than his spin attack, so don’t get distracted
each olympian god's keepsake only works once per run?
i like dio
Dio's cast in general is pretty awesome, and Hera removes the weakness it has that you can otherwise only remove with a duo boon.
what weakness?
The weakness is that it lobs.
it’s a lobbed shot that takes time to land
Hera Dio shot detonates almost immediately.
dio cast no longer counts as lodged in enemies right?
If you get Ice Wine (Dio x ||Demeter|| duo boon) it also removes the lob effect, but that can be slightly unreliable. Still worth going for even with Hera.
Yep.
Dio and Ares don't lodge at all, Poseidon also doesn't lodge if used with two certain duo boons.
how long does it take for dio cast to return?
It varies based on your setup
If you're using a cast weapon like hera you should typically just cast shoot cast shoot cast shoot, and you'll always have one to fire
Hi pals!
Would gladly receive some advices on how to defeat Elysium's final bosses. Their hp is so thicc, I will punch them forever xDDD Any tips?
Go for the bull first.
Yes
doing so also makes it to where if you miss a shot it's not as punishing
if youre using hera
Taking on Theseus first gives some nasty additions to the fight once he phases, whilst still having to dodge his spears and the deranged cow with a battle axe.
my suggestion for 3rd boss is you focus whoever you're most comfortable with, but if you go for ||thesus|| first
you need to burst him
on phase 2
If you have a companion i'd suggest getting them grouped to hit them both at the same time
Agreed with Ex though, if you focus Theseus first, you need to kill him quickly once he phases.
The godsend on that matchup though is good backstab damage
Also good to know: every time Theseus throws his spear he will walk away from you, guaranteed. That's your cue to hit him.
if you can get an athena boon to increase that you can really hurt
Another thing is burst damage is useful for the fight. and arc things like dio cast can hit in most circumstances against|| thesus||
The other boon that really helps is a dash boon, sprint boon, or movementspeed buff from hermes to help you outrun ||asterius||
TLDR: Get backstab damage from ||chaos|| or athena, mobility perks from hermes can help you outrun asterius, high burst type of attacks like 60 base and take percent modifiers, when either of them turn their backs unload an attack or two onto them, arc damage can more reliably hit|| thesus||
!!!thanks for the tips!!! Try it next time!
Which aspects would give me the most bang for my buck with the first six titan bloods? I'm kind of hesitant to try any of the 2-blood aspects or invest deeply
Hera is really solid at level 1
I don't really get what that one does
It imbeds your arrows with casts
cast 3 times and fire and your arrow does its normal damage + 150
if you have a special cast, it comes out when the arrow hits
So my suggestion for the 6 weapons is
Sword: ||nemesis||
Shield ||zeus||
spear: ||achilles||
rail: ||hestia||
Fists: ||talos||
all of those work well with just one rank
So im new to the game, literally got it today and the furthest i have gotten is elysium, i have this diamond thing and titans blood? what do i do with them lmao
I took the one where if you land a shot, your special homes in automatically for like three specials worth.
I don't think that one is very good until you have it maxed
Oh on that note...is there a mechanic to respec blood like you can with darkness?
no
No
I only did one level on that so I’m not disappointed though
If you want to try something out buy it, go on a run and select give up
and it'll refund your titans blood
Otherwise your locked in
yeah I actually took Chiron already, it's nice but feels dependent on the +4 shot upgrade at lv1
ooh that's good to know
I did ||Hades|| spear and ||Chiron|| bow
I really dislike that spear aspect
Nothing else so far
||Hades||? Damage buff after swing seemed nice
||Punishing Bonus Damage
(+30% / +60% / +90% / +120% / +150%)
for Attack / Special for 10 Sec.
Also increases Spin Attack radius||
here's why
||You have to use charge, and it only applies to autos & specials.
Achilles applies to attacks & casts (which is more of a preference thing), but applies higher percents all the way until that last rank where it's equal. It's way easier to throw a special in than a charge. Especially since the charge time doesn't get lowered hades aspect, and getting hit at all cancels the charge.||
sorry for any game mechanics spoilers...was on mobile and not thinking
and agreed about getting knocked out of charge...I've found the easiest way for me to pull it off somewhat consistently is attack then charge while enemy is in hitstun, but then if you're facing more than one enemy it's not consistent
or if you're trying to charge up spin for any longer length of time...
exactly my point, using|| achilles|| has no reliance on positioning or the enemies your against. It's always going to work
it would be cool if ||aspects|| of each weapon counted as ||a different weapon|| for the purposes of getting ||titan blood|| drops and stuff. Probably too generous though.
^ haha, yes I would like that...but it would probably make things too easy lol 😅
It kinda takes too long to level up everything
and once you do you have nothing to do with it
replay value I guess
destiny 2 conundrum where there was nothing worth grinding for after a while
when the game first came out
I'm loving this so far though...been playing after work every day and played on my weekend when I bought it...and before work today...risking being late and all lol
you've done well, red named folks 🙂
Good gods why is ||Demeter|| so absurd with Theseus
oh yeah, I'm sure this is RNG, but the ||bonus room NPCs|| don't get mad if you ||give gifts to other bonus room NPCs|| and stop showing up right? I gave ||nectar|| to ||Eurydice|| and haven't seen ||Sisyphus|| for what seems like several runs now.
i don't think i've seen any of the bonus NPCs in my last few runs, but i'm guessing it's just bad luck
also i don't think the bonus NPCs are too spoilery?
eh idk I play it safe in this channel
after seeing others do the same
I've been seeing the 2nd and 3rd ones but not the first one...so probably just RNG
fair
Does buying decor overlap other decor for the same area? Or can you buy everything and it all displays?
u can buy all and then u change for what u like
Ooh, where do u go to edit the decor? :0
Same menu where you buy them, below anything else you can buy
Ooh gotcha! Makes sense lol thank you
So what does Boiling Blood even do?
Enemies with cast in them take more damage
yeah, according to the wiki: Each rank gives you +10% Attack & Special damage to foes with Cast Ammo in them. (capped at 50%)
Is there a difference between the switch version and the pc version?
hmm the wording on that implies its accessible to the player?
OH its the same one?
What rank does final boss use?
Bruh its for new players
Bruh I got the game only a week ago
if you're at the final boss it's probably better to ask in #h1-story-discussion
final boss spoilers: ||his boiling blood version causes you to take double damage||
Bruh I got the game only a week ago
@gaunt raven i got it yesterday
@leaden whale Same and I barely played for 3 hours
Im addictds to this game
Does that somehow invalidates my 'new' status? 🤔
what is a new status
Being new to something
new refers more to have progression than time played
@leaden whale please don't avoid the language filter
Wild guess, it means you're new
@leaden whale please don't avoid the language filter
@ivory ocean sorry
it's alright 👍
720p resolution for one, which doesn't really bother me, even while docked on my 60" TV
I mean
XD
no the game is the same
Oh ok
that is a good question...I was also wondering if it was on a different patch schedule or anything but figured not
Because usually ports are different from each other
should be Switch exclusive weapons. Master Sword, Fire Flower, Samus Arm...Animal Crossing fish to beat enemies with or something lol
Lmao
ooo Zelda weapons would be awesome...Master Sword aspect, Hylian Bow aspect, Bombchu casts...
Yeah
could add a Hammer type weapon down the line and get the OoT hammer in there whatever its name is
zag can just dash upwards, easy
ya know I never thought of that lol
also zag can jump to do his sword special, smh
the dash up thing was a joke, but technically you can dash up a ledge just fine
so presumably it can go upward?
a 'float' boon or passive would be kinda neat...totally avoiding traps and not needing to dash over gaps in the floor...like the wings in Gungeon
could also make it like aether/final cutter where he uses the leap version of the sword special and makes an AOE when he lands with it
I'm currently watching the No Clip documentaries, and the rail used to make Zag Float
huh, neat
Ok but what about hades 2: norse mythology
Zag x Kratos
nah, we gotta go with hades 2: Pluto
it's like the first one but slightly different
Hades 2: pluto: not a planet anymore
For the keepsakes that ensure your next boon is from a specific god, I guess I could test this myself or consult Mr. Google, but it's only useful to keep them on for one biome right? other than for leveling purposes. Like they don't reset per biome right? I know others like ||coin purse|| are similar one-time effects as soon as they're equipped.
I just use the cerberus keepsake all the time
bow mains rise up
I've been using whatever gives me the darkness bonus for both that and variety and fun tbh
once I have enough to get mirror upgrades all squared away how I like them I'll probably settle on one...liking spear and bow though
Gun and spear are the only weapons i can actually play with and not die lol
don't really have a main, I like all the weapons except coronacht (which I tolerate)
Coronacht?
I didn't like shield much, but then I got aspect of zeus
I've been starting out with Athena boon on runs recently hoping for good deflect boons. Before that I was using coin purse after maxing out tooth, which I now put on around 3rd biome depending on my situation.
bow
Oh
my current run is gun, but my switch is at home so...yep
I really like aspect of zeus, it's like having your own blade rift that you can stack other god effects on
You can cross save
I'm at work anyway
Oh ok
just discording it up is risky but I'm not busy
Whats aspect of zeus lol
I heard shield was fairly OP before last patch
in one aspect/build anyway
I do like the Captain Zagreus feel to it
aspect of zeus is a shield aspect where instead of throwing it, you launch a spinning disc like a blade rift, and you can hit the button again to pull it back
unlike other shield mods, you can still attack while it's out though
Also doesn't disable you from using the shield for other stuff when it's away.
I dont use the shield at all lol
I don't like the shield as much as other weapons anyway, I find its normal attack to not be incredibly fun to use, and the throw feels really weak
one boon I did really well with on bow was that one that makes your arrows chain from enemy to enemy
I just got the game yesterday. Been 20 or so odd attempts. Reached ||Hades|| 3 times with shield... Got rekt
it just doesn't have the same crunch as some of the other weapons

Hitting all the time with the gun is really satisfying
that sad cat is me having the game for like 3 days and still being in ||Elysium||
Im stuck in elysium too
What are you struggling with
Low hearts
last boss...I'm kinda risky with my rooms too...been taking a lot of skulls on the way for good stuff
well, last boss of that biome
I struggle with not losing my Death charges in the Styx area... Poison... :/
or just when I face the ||Minotaur|| alone for that matter really even though I beat him 2v1
Low hearts as in you're taking a lot of damage?
Yeah
oh that's one thing I did on my build too that's given me more successful runs...maxed out the mirror passive that gives you up to +50 HP
I also run out of spare lives
i got a question about hades is it a point and click game or do i use wasd to move/joystick
My last run before I stopped for the day I had all 3 charges + Skelly charge going into Styx... Lost 3 charges to poison.

Have you learned the enemies patterns yet?
Focusing the archers?
Staying the hell away from kaboom-wheels?
Dashing a lot from side to side as opposed to back/towards enemies?
i got a question about hades is it a point and click game or do i use wasd to move/joystick
@faint yoke bruh
Have you learned the enemies patterns yet?
Focusing the archers?
Staying the hell away from kaboom-wheels?
Dashing a lot from side to side as opposed to back/towards enemies?
@gaunt raven nah just running out of spare lives+hydra
Yeah but those pointers prevent you from losing them further lol
@faint yoke with hades you move with wasd or the joystick
thanks
for sure
Can I do anything useful will keys after I ||unlock all the weapons and mirror stuff? I know you can respec, is thay all?||
Can be traded for other resources
Where do I go to do that? Is if ||In the locked door that needs 3 diamonds to unlock?||
||In the lounge, when its unlocked. Theres a big shade NPC which lets you trade resources. Big fella, can't miss him.||
28 runs and I never noticed I could speak to him. Thank you! I just thought he was some cool dude just chilling
I know about the other because he gets the little ! when he has stuff for you
It's kinda obvious the other dude can be now that I look at that whole general area
cant i gift choas the mga ultra potion gift?
gifted him all normal ones, im his best friend but i cant give him the mega potion :c
In the mirror traits. The last one called fated persuasion what does the dice represent? It doesnt have an explanation
1 dice = 1 available reroll
What’s better, Ambrosia Delight or Refreshing Nectar?
can someone explain how affinity works with olympian gods? Why should I give them nectar after getting their keepsake?
depends on what you've taken so far in my opinion
which is a crappy answer I know but is true
I probably take +1 Rarity to 2 boons most often followed by +1 level to 4 boons and then the one that gives increased chance to next 3 but that's just me so far
I have a rare Athena divine dash, rare Demeter crystal beam, epic Zeus aid, epic Hermes greater evasion, and rare Hermes greatest reflex
man I've almost typed boobs so many times...had to backspace twice in that sentence on my PC keyboard
Lol autocorrect sucks
if I have 4 or more I take the +1 level to 4 boons offering
I also have a 35% increase in cast and one extra cast from chaos but I don’t think that’ll effect anything
especially if there's a good chance my rarity buff to 2 boons might go to something lackluster
Alright
Beam, dash, and aid got buffed
Lol I accidentally bought a pomegranate piece from Charon and got aid to level 4
I think I've read that there are diminishing returns after level 2 on most boons as well
and it generally seems like that
like rarity increase is generally better once a buff is at level 2 or 3...but even so if I had a ton of boons I'd still take the +1 to 4
Does increasing affinity with olympian gods provide any specific benefits besides story progression? I know you get companions from Zag's friends
@timid rain
Where is the fishing rod?
contactor
catch some fish
A small glowing ball with a beam of light will show up in certain encounter rooms with "water" you just need to interact with it to catch fish
Whoa Demeter’s and Athena’s duo seems amazing
WOW THESEUS AND ASTERIUS MELTED TO THIS BUILD
Is this the place to ask a question about a mirror upgrade?
which one?
Why would someone choose gods legacy over pride?
I meant backwards
Pride over legacy
base boons can often have more effect on a run than duo/legendaries can, especially if you get unlucky with their prereqs or spawns
an epic deadly strike might put in more effort than fully loaded might
🤔 yes, i do have had issues with prereqs
I understand now
- what exactly does Dark Foresight do?
it increases the chances of finding gold laurel rewards (those being boons, poms, hearts, gold, hammers - all temporary type resources)
it's juxtaposed with olympian favor, meaning you can either get less higher quality boons, or less quality common boons with more other stuff in general
this is old, but it explains what i mean by "gold laurel"
👍
if i go to heat 9? by turning on extreme measures 4 do i get all the rewards from 1-8 if i didnt get them before? or they are passed until i go to lower heat
You get the continuation of wherever you left off. Says you got reward for Stage 2 on 5 heat, if yoy go 32, you get stage 3 and 4 reward for that run.
ohh I see thanks
Is it posible to change your controls for spear in such a way that (using PS4 controls as example), triangle is special and you press triangle to recall, and square to rush to spear. I just unlocked the rush thing and its making it difficult for me to spam the special which is how Ive been beating the bosses
Does that make sense
I want to use the same button to throw and recall and a differnt button to rush
The muscle memory i got from spamming spear is now messing meup
Im hardstuck on minotaur and theseus
Is there a trick or just keep banging against it till you get through
Other than knowing how they behave, I usually kite minotaur away from theseus. Then time the off screen throw
when theseus spins or throws, he always walks away from your position, turning his back towards you. things that say they pierce will go through his shield. whenever he calls for aid, he is vulnerable from all angles and is basically a sitting duck
TLDR: Get backstab damage from ||chaos|| or athena, mobility perks from hermes can help you outrun ||asterius||, high burst type of attacks like 60 base and take percent modifiers, when either of them turn their backs unload an attack or two onto them, arc damage like dio cast can more reliably hit|| thesus||
@late mango
spins will always occur in melee. at range he'll throw his spear, which has a very clear audio cue and visual telegraph (dash a little after the reticle turns bright red)
I hang around the bottom of the screen and deal with minotaur first. dash back and forth through minotaur and time my dashes so any spear throws from theseus get stuck in the buildings so I don't have to worry about dodging as much
his purpose is to facetank your attacks and be annoying while asterius pummels you into the ground. it's a fight that teaches you to have quick reaction times and tests your knowledge of boss patterns by throwing two of them at you
his tag-team attack (bull horn) has a telegraph in that he will call out to asterius beforehand and slowly walk towards the bull. however, in the heat of combat, this can be hard to see, so keep your eye out
Whats the general strategy with up close weapons like fists and sword and shield
ive only got to elysium with spear and bow
Seems like getting up close on bosses makes you take a big chunk
Im still struggling in tartarus :'))))
Fists I dash up and hit quickly, uppercut if shield, combo if you can stunlock, Sword I dodge and counter, for shield you can charge up the Bull rush and block literally everything in front of you
Athena, Zeus, and ||Demeter|| are my personal faves for shield
But I’m certain that every god is good for any weapon in some shape or form
aight guys started today any tips and tricks? need 2 more keys to unlock the fists and besides that ive beat Meg with all the other weapons but thats it, killed the hydra twice with sword and trident
Shield is amazing
When you get nectar spread it around, don’t give multiple to one person until everyone has gotten at least one
Always pet Cerberus before every run because he is a good boy
And learn the patterns of the bosses and don’t expect to win on your first time (boss 3 in particular took me a lot of tries)
nectar.. is that from the god of wine?
No, it’s a room drop
the weapon i liked the most so far has been the spear
No need to swap to shield because I said so if you love the spear
Bow is sorta difficult
Use the special as a “shotgun” attack if you get what I mean
what the hell do you use the titan blood for? i decided to kill meg with all the weapons i have and i thought it'd unlock something but nope
Eventually you'll unlock gameplay changes for weapons
You use the blood to activate those and upgrade weapons
i see
How good is the Broken Spearpoint?
ill keep going tomorrow since i already spent 5 hours today
Is it worth leveling up?
||Than|| just left his prize in the middle of a ||pool of lava|| what the hell lol
Just a question upgrades with daedalus's hammer only apply for one run right?
I used it to get me through high heat. It's pretty worthwhile in preventing damage if you're getting overwhelmed
Just a question upgrades with daedalus's hammer only apply for one run right?
@severe swift
Yeeeah just per run.
Aight back to the grind i go
whats the best god for each weapon?
Personal preference Blizy
unlocked all of them still cant reach 3rd stage boss
like?
I prefer Athena and Zeus for shield
focus on special damage?
typically sword works anywhere
shield especially poseideon, but anyone who isn't zeus/dio is solid
spear is good anything but zeus/dio/poseideon
rail is especially good zeus/dio attack, then aphro, artemis, athena special
fists same as rail
It'd be ares for shield if you just want a one off
...
I think you just gotta figure out what works best with whatever attack your leaning on. When I run the shield and manage to get the weapon upgrade that speeds it up or bounces on multiple people I love putting doom on it.
Wait why is Zeus bad for shield
it's base attack is slow
He’s done tremendously well for me so far
My winning run was primarily Athena, ||Demeter||, and Zeus
I’m using a max zag aspect for shield
@clever path I'm relatively new too, but Broken Spear point does really well with the enemies that shoot lasers for consistent damage specifically.
what are the best mirror upgrades?
Defiances for sure
Death Defiance
If you're strapped for darkness 1/2/3+ life for room is helpful in the early game
Eh its pretty ok
you could do without it
if you want HP equip dog collar
you can get 150 at the start of the game
with thick skin
Yeah, Death Defiance and Thick skin do great for beginners. Don't forget you get half you health back on death, so they compound well with each other and each health upgrade to get you farther
Thick skin requires like ten keys to unlock? I didn't want to assume they had it already
Ah, makes sense
Uhh whats that thing that looks like an exclamation mark and 3 dots around it
Special event
Go there
It's a person who is extremely helpful. In most cases you'd probably want to go to that room over any other
Okey thanks
@mild mist bottom four like after you’ve unlocked them all or out of the original bunch? I’m actually respeccing right now and deciding on stuff
I usually go with thick skin, death defiance, extra dash...
the furthest ones down are the lowest priority, they're nice to have, but not at the expense of the ones that give you power outright
you wouldn't respec out of Death Defiance to get an extra Fated Authority or anything
What’s the consensus on the cast skills? I though casting was generally pretty nice while using them but I guess they kinda pigeonhole you into a cast build?
And thank you 🙏
What’s the consensus on the cast skills?
@burnt crane
Do you mean boons that change your cast or boons that augment your cast after you already picked up a new one?
I always have infernal soul maxed out but I love spamming cast
I have 800 darkness after maxing out Defiance, Reflex, and Thick Skin. Without knowing my play style...if you had to pick other skills what would they be.
Yeah I kind of like it too I think
I know I can always respec again. Just curious
maxing out all of the first 8 mirror talents doesn't take too long, and it's generally assumed you have those maxed
Well I have them all unlocked through keys
Actually hmmm I might be able to max out first 8 with what I have left
Can always force close app without wasting a key
I mean if it's choice between the red ones vs the green ones I'd use boiling blood and infernal soul over abyssal blood and stygian soul
I don't have much experience with stygian soul though.
I tend to use Boiling Blood, though I prefer Stygian Soul
lets me fire and forget
I'm a big fan of Stygian, boiling is basically required imo
don't put anything into the "1% chance per rank of getting X" skills or Fated Authority/Persuasion until everything else is maxed, they're definitely nice to have but they can wait
Just short of maxing out first eight haha
(everything you're actually using, that is)
(also, max out the chance ones before putting too much into rolls, the chance ones are huge huge huge consistency bonuses)
got to final boss twice so far with hera bow
still can't beat him though
but feels like I should switch it up
any recommendations?
Yeah I noticed that too. Was using chance ones over cast last few runs
I know spear and rail aren't exactly beginner friendly
shield is always a safe bet
it also helps because you have more time to learn their attack patterns
Rail was my first win. Just dashed away and lob bombs at him. Was hella cheese and v slow
the few times I did shield, felt it was lacking in damage
spear
Shield is probably the best weapon kit imo
though I can carry ares keepsake and hope for doom
Block block block damage block block block damage lather rinse repeat
I like shield its does damage, it blocks it has range and some bosses are just not made for face rushing so I find my self using range attacks and shield covers all bases
Shield was too slow for me. I’m a Spear lover in the few games that allow it anyways
is spreadfiore any good or do i go a special build?
whats the best god for the gun wep?
Zeus is good
do you have any aspect?
nothing yet
from what?
Lightning Strike on Rail is a lot of damage bonus
Especially if you get Splitting Bolt also
almost beat him with shield
died when when he was 5 hits from death
third boss is a road block for a lot of people. on rail I would suggest looking for hammers such as Rocket Bomb + Triple Bomb or Rocket Bomb + Cluster Bomb
Yep
honestly i just run and hit
Thats how you play rogue games
those should hard carry you to the end
not sure what you mean
aspects
yeah, you can use titan blood to get those unlocks
anything i should focus on first?
noticed
sword is hard if you can't do dash strike spam
Mirror of night is all maxed out, and i have alot of darkness
Does it unlock more as i progress or is that it?
whats the best aspect for gun?
all of them are good
in my opinion
do i have to bomb myself?
yeah
works good
you can ask what are people's favorite, but everyone will give a different answer
IT IS CRAZY
for example I think Hestia is lowkey op
hesta might be good for doom build?
hesta is what?
Does it unlock more as i progress or is that it?
@gritty lichen did you unlock all the tiers below the first?
hestia
bruh
if you manually reload
your first shot does 150 damage
WHAT
dont have zeus keepsake for some reason
Oh yeah
gonna be tough
Lambent Plume seems good with gun
make primary do as much damage as possible
or crits
Guys
You wanna know something cool
whats 2.97 x 6
18 ?
yikes
cant take damage for a quarter of a minute
i kinda like artemis with gun
What do?
seeking arrows works on every bullet
and i shoot like 12 every 2 secs
so 12 arrows
it used to work that way but support fire was nerfed
but it's still really good on rail, of course
rocket bomb seems good
but current normal one does 90 damage
is this one like faster or something?
that and triple bomb or cluster bomb = won run
triple is way better
depends on how greedy you are. triple bomb is the safer choice here
but in term of potential damage
you can't beat rocket bomb
all of them are good tbh
this is stacking pretyy well
lost all 4 death defiances in temple of styx
god, I hate poison
isn't it the best when you cure poison and get poisoned again
can confirm, spearpoint helps a ton
yeah!
also, I just confirmed to myself that backstab build is terrible
not necessarily
you can rack up some seriously big numbers with stacking backstab
I guess 200 from hammer + 76 from chaos and + mirror's weren't enough to convince me
on bosses yeah, it was somewhat decent, but not enough. But it's hard to get backstab on normal enemies, especially with armor
that's fair
you will get used to it. it's possible to get consistent backstab damage. practice makes perfect. good luck
I’ve never really bothered with it
eh....ime no, but I haven't used it recently
It seems wasteful
Seems pointless unless you have a very specific build and if your build’s good enough to use that, it’s probably gonna win anyway
it's good for one-shot builds like Charged (Shot+Minotaur Rush)/Skewer/Throw
I can't create a nice synergy among boons is there any guides to read
multiple boons from the same god is generally good
Lol seems like the opposite thing I do
otherwise, try to stack status effects like Chill and Hangover
question about eris rail
For 8 Seconds after absorbing your Special's blast, deal more damage.
what does absorbing special mean
getting hit by
press q on yourself
(doesn't do damage)
is it any good?
(pro tip: don't pick Hazard Bomb with Eris rail)
or do for the ultimate 5gum experience
it's really good yeah
wdym that's a pro strat
I took Hazard Bomb with Eris live on TV and proceed to die a shameful death shortly after
don't recommend
does nemesis sword's crit bonus apply to dash attack?
not sure this is the right channel but yeah, patch notes for this game are insane. i just wanna know did they ever change how heat rewards work, like (hopefully) if i skip heat on a wep for a few tiers do i get the prev heat rewards or I still gotta grind every tier individually for the first time items?
you'll get the lowest unclaimed bounties, so if you're on heat 3 bounties but use heat 8, you'll get the bounties from heat 3 untill you clear a run
oooh ok dope that works for me
Almost managed to beat him on 1st attempt
final boss is spoilers in this channel
lets me do runs on a proper challenge heat while still grabbing rewards incrementally
@ebon dew
that was my biggest pet peeve since i felt like until heat 6 and even then it was kinda jokes and just grinding for the one time items
now i can just go right into the madness, thanks
I assume the Eris buff doesn’t stack. Yes?
Not quite
the buff does not stack, so you won't get +150% for absorbing the blast twice
but let's say you have the buff and you special, that special will be buffed by +75% since the buff applies to all damage.
Do you guys use aim assist? Is there any downside to using it?
I use it. I’m bad at video games so I’m better off with it. It will occasionally do things I don’t intend, but the benefits far outweigh those rare instances.
I use since I'm using controller
I play on Switch.
the hitboxes feel really weird without it
Cool, I'll leave it on then :)
but there's really awkward scenarios I run into when using aim assist, I can't throw projectiles infront of enemies most of the time while they're running
so if it's a slow projectile they are just guaranteed to miss
only matters on map 3
Erm, maybe use spoiler tags?
||I think he shows up randomly once you clear the second area and find him||
Does Aspect of Hera allow loading multiple casts and firing them at once?
yes
So that’s why people love it.
What's max level of godhood?
I feel like this game is too hectic for not to use aim assist
||Thanatos is more likely to show up if you've taken damage in the previous room||
||So if you're not seeing him a lot, it's because you're getting better at the game||
What about ||Demeter||? ^
haven't even seen once, actually
||Demeter shows up after you reach the surface once||
||You have to complete a run||
OK thank you.
what is the whole "fated choice" thing about when it comes to boons?
helps you keep track of what you haven't picked in order to fulfill the fated list of minor prophecies
ahh so its only related to quest hunting and doesnt have some kind of hidden benefit?
If you poisoned with broken spear point, does it protects from ticks of poison as well?
Yes.
It has a fairly long cooldown and a fairly short duration, but when it triggers it will stop poison ticks.
I can't attach images, but does anyone know how to unlock the last keepsake? I have all of them but the last one on the keepsake menu
This is awesome, 1.75 sec should be enough to get the antidote most of times
Is there something I'm missing about trying to get|| Asterius|| to show up in Elysium for the ||Gilgamesh|| ||weapon?|| I've gotten ||Butterfly Ball|| 8 times in a row.
i haven't gotten dark thirst on sword for a good 20 runs, is this normal? i have all weapons unlocked
What’s the “best” keepsake / which should I level up first? I play melee weapons usually
i personally really like skelly's, but i don't start with it, just switch to it late in my runs (when i think i'll need it)
maybe it's a crutch but i like the security
Remind me what it does again? And are there any I should avoid acquiring right away
Thank you btw
free death defiance charge
Oh sick
I can't attach images, but does anyone know how to unlock the last keepsake? I have all of them but the last one on the keepsake menu
@vale pawn That one is gonna take a long while. You need to finish the story.
Do I need to upgrade all keepsakes for story?
@paper imp
melee in general: Eternal Rose, Owl Pendant, Adamant Arrowhead, Chthonic Coin Purse, Evergreen Acorn
Stygius: Blood-Filled Vial
Malphon: Thunder Signet, Blood-Filled Vial
Hey guys it seems the dark thirst is always on the sword or bow only and rarely goes to the other weapons (all unlocked). Is it random? Or is it based on usage or something?
The acorn is awesome pretty much regardless of what you do. Having all the god keepsakes available to gun for specific builds is also a very good idea.
It's random.
Hey guys it seems the dark thirst is always on the sword or bow only and rarely goes to the other weapons (all unlocked). Is it random? Or is it based on usage or something?
@spare quiver it's random, but there isn't anything that ensures it doesn't repeat
You can gift further to deepen your relationship with characters, more story and in a few select cases some nice rewards later. In the beginning don't worry too much about it, I'd likely prefer to gift everyone at least once before going deeper with someone.
Hello, i would like to ask something too. Google said i have to invest 5 titans blood to the Adamant Rail, but i already bought all aspect in Early Access. What should i do ?
@misty scaffold if you're talking about || hidden aspects||, that's a question for #h1-story-discussion
Sorry. and thank you.
no worries!
yup
usually, yeah. Higher rarity is always better, but there isn't anything wrong with picking up a common boon if it's good for your build
there are a couple (RNG) ways to upgrade later, and you can also improve it with Poms
yeah, that's totally fine. Though yes, you can play around it a little bit, and leave that slot open for later
yup. you can get offered an "exchange" from another god, which is guaranteed to be one higher rarity, but you're not guaranteed to be offered an exchange
I feel like it's almost always worth it to just take it
sometimes it is worth waiting, but generally the boon itself is more important than rarity
pretty much
just maintaining a decent "enough" build is kinda the point
min maxing might be important for like, speedrunning, but improving your chances to maintain high health and overall resources is generally best practice as far as I can tell
Does Olympian Favor lower the chance of something being higher than a rare
and taking an important but common boon, if that boon will improve your survivability and damage, then might as well
@clever path I don't believe so
Oh good
but I don't think it decreases the odds of it being epic?
it does nothing for epic boon odds, unless you use God's pride (?) as well which explicitly increases the chance of boons being epic
exactly
Olympian favor only says “rare”
i know hades was voiced by logan but did he also do the narrator?
the old man zagreus refers to sometimes
yes, Logan voiced the narrator also :3
thanks!
kinda threw me off for a bit since i knew SG wouldn't dare let anyone else be the narrator
and also because the narrator and hades seem to be different people
does the bonuses for lambent plume go away once you change keepsakes
yup
Does bonus attack damage also add damage to the dash-strike? I know some things only add bonus damage to dash-strike so idk if they're separate
thx
Aspect of Demeter seems lackluster. What’s the max on it?
Yeah on the extra hits
5
all of the aspects have 5 levels
Oh wow
How do you deal with Chaos' addled effect (attacks deal self damage)
That’s... so much titan blood 
for aspect of Zagreus its only 5 
Is it just me or are melee weapons significantly harder to play than ranged?
Sword and fists feel a lot more difficult
Unless you get specific hammer upgrades
well that's every game, since melee means you have to get close to the enemy and have less time to dodge attacks
Yeah but there should be some benefit to that tradeoff
But you do as much if not more damage with ranged
Spamming spear throw with backstab does so much more damage than getting up with your fists
And a lot of encounters are going to chunk you if you dont have deflect as mele
eg. in asphodel witch's circles
what's hellmode is it worth going for in first playthrough
fists do a lot of damage if you backstab and spam in my experience
but thats just me, im pretty new too so idk
after a while all the weapons kind of feel samey when you learn to just dash attack repeat ad nauseum
so this game is like darksouls ?
hellmode imo isn't worth going for in a first playthrough
its more like dead cells than dark souls
theres a bunch of 2d soulslike and hades isnt one of them
what do I choose, divine strike or dash or phalanx shot
on what weapon?
no idea I just beat a few orange guys then athena appeared then this screen came up
why can't we send screenshots here
guess I'll go with divine strike says 40% more attack damage
Take dash 100% of the time
oh okay
It gives you more iframes
oh no I just died wait how do you heal
You don't
you don't really heal per say, but you can buy the equivalent of potions in Charon's shop
if the rng is good with you
You get your healing later, it's an upgrade and it doesn't work like most other games
if you give up a run does it refresh the dialogue in base? thinking of giving up or suicide until I get last aspect unlock dialogue
is ranged the way to go in this game?
up to yr preference but you can be successful with all weapons
its probably easier for beginner when you learn boss attacks
All weapons are viable
^
Some just have a steeper learning curve
Fighting ||Hades|| for the first time ever, wish me luck uwu
good luck!
i made it till the bone hydra level, the rail machine gun seems to be better than others by a margin
If you give up the save rolls back, you don't get any dialog progression
oh i see thanks
when you learn enemy attacks then ranged or melee doesnt make a big difference, its more that you get better at dashes
At the beginning ranged is safer, so it feels better. When you get accustomed to how everything works it doesn't make much of a difference
||WHY DOES HE HAVE TWO HEALTHS||
when do you get the fishing rod or how do you get it
bc he big bad
hey guys how do i unlock the 4th aspects
lol
WHY :(
okay..i am very new to roguelite rpg gameplay, but absolutely loving this game. going to be a great weekend 🙂
its pinned in the spoiler chat
ah ty
when do you get the fishing rod or how do you get it
Pinned in #h1-story-discussion @terse thistle
You gotta buy the fishing rod from the contractor
@glacial iris hmm I think it has something to do with the contractor
when does it become like unlocked from the contractor? @marsh ether
That I don't know, but as with everything in this game, when in doubt do more runs and it will unlock eventually
okay still no luck on beating hades
It is a hard game to beat
If you're struggling against the final boss, keep at it
i figured that much enjoying it and im sure theres still a bunch to learn and just have to keep playing
The main way to improve is to learn enemy attack timings, so you can get better at dodging
remember to tag with spoilers
Wdym, they're just talking about beating the game || ;) ||
that's a spoiler
Not really applicable for this convo, maybe a previous one
|| I'm making a joke, friend xD It was said in a way that we could just pretend they meant the game, and let it slide ||
hmm shrug
Ye
|| I mean if you point it out you make it more obvious||
You can't do that on mobile
oh gosh nvm then
|| need these ||
Discord mobile twarts me again
That's why whenever I ask someone to tag something, I ask in spoiler tags, like || please tag weapon name ||
Well the aspect names
It was an example xD
The weapon names are a good spoiler free method to talk about the weapons actually 🤔
Yes lol
You'll get there!!
Is it normal not to defeat it the first time :x
||The first time I fought him I killed him with like 10 health left, all my death defiance gone, and then me stands back up cause of course he has a phase 2||
good times
does anyone know how many diamonds and ambrosia are needed for everything?
I had both of them ||by the time he had phase 2|| but I ||stepped on the green things that spawned on the ground like a smarty||
everything?
does anyone know how many diamonds and ambrosia are needed for everything?
@ruby condor a lot
Hi y'all. I have ambrosia and Zeus maxed out but idk how to give him it
yah a lot
|| that's perfectly normal, he's kinda the 1st enemy to have DD (death defiance) the same as you, so you don't expect it ||
Hi y'all. I have ambrosia and Zeus maxed out but idk how to give him it
@fierce vapor || you need to complete his favor ||
|| it involves talking to lots of different gods ||
@fierce vapor ambrosia is only for certain characters right?
I did I think
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Idk about that but I know Zeus has the heart w a lock on it for ambrosia
Yup
I remember the first time I got to the final boss and I was like "Let's go!" and then ||he instantly did a spin attack and I had a heart attack||
That means his favor isn't computer, Dae
Okay so maybe I shouldn't have beelined giving nectars to Zeus first lol
Who should I give my first ambrosia to?
||https://imgur.com/a/b1QV798|| This is when you know you fudged up
I put all mine into Artemis at first, nectar wise
First ambrosia, I'd say aim for || Sisyphus || if you can
Cool :) thanks! I've been having so much damn fun with this game
Awesome!
@ornate remnant check my link :x
I did
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Could still win from that
I didn't know what abilities he had in ||phase 2|| so i wasted all my hp
Fair
What weapon?
The two fist
Mm, those are actually decent on fist
You can tell boons by image
They scale well with attack speed
Yup :3
|| you just need to reach the final boss, it should unlock her ||
||Hades|| is the final boss?
yup
Oooooh ty!
Ye
?
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Once you have 2+ DD, take that
