#h1-for-new-players
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it hurts a lot with the fists
i'm the same even at higher ||heat||
^.^"
why are you playing if you're bored?
honestly just take a short break and come back when you feel like you need some Hades
It's more fun if you take breaks anyways
this... might be why i'm not winning
@tepid vale it's not that game is wearing me out. It's just my attitude towards its combat aspects. I just love the boon mechanic so much that I kinda "forgive" everything else
iirc Eule was someone who just kept adding one ||heat for rewards||, that grind really gets boring actually
i mean, i'm absolutely not bored, but my brain is lazy and tunes out regardless
It's not exactly grind for me though, I play like one run a day tops. That kind of incremental increase is fine with me.
then i guess it's alright
my 'grind' was like around 4 runs a day
the first 2-3 are fine
It's also good because I still in this state of anticipation for ||higher heat|| so I have lots of frustration things to look forward to.
best to take it slow and not exhaust all the dialogue like I have before 1.0 
man its gonna be so neat when there's new dialogue
i think it'll be all over the place and i kinda wanna start a new file for the dialogue
the story/characters are what made me put time into the game; i think now i'm just running on momentum
and I'll do all the gameplay related stuff on my current file maybe
i honestly can't decide whether to start over or not at this point
yeah same i'll probably end up doing both
v1.0 save is going to be fun
potential spoilers for final area
||https://i.imgur.com/vl8FMhg.png Hey guys random possibly noob question from soneone who hasn't played since many many updates ago... Do the shiny auras/indications on the rightmost doors mean anything special, or is it just because they have a miniboss?||
Hi I just started hades
what is the purpose of keepsakes?
I noticed some npcs give them to me
You can equip one and each will give you special effects and can be leveled up to increase its potency
Erm all of them.
I can give you my personal fav which is Hera Bow, fists, and Hades Spear, and Nemesis Sword
or you can look at this very subjective tier list: ||https://i.imgur.com/yh7mIPP.png||
Meagara skill sets include:
- If she lowers herself, she might lunge forward, just get out of her way, but don't approach right after she is done because:
- After the lunge she will likely do an AOE whip twirl, just stay away
You window is right after she is done twirling
In the second and third phase she will also do a bullet hell spam. My advice is to keep some distance to have an easier time dodging the bullets.
Again, after this you have a window to attack.
As for the minions, I usually just ignore them.
If you have Deflect (Athena Boon) on Attack or Dash, you can cheese the bullet hell spam by just redirecting the bullets back to her.
I think jumping around between all available weapons is a reasonable approach
Get comfortable with all of em and diversify your play styles
I tend to grab whichever one has its Dark Thirst active unless I really feel like trying a different weapon
As far as ease of use though, Aegis is pretty simple to do good things with, and can be more forgiving than Stygius with its block mechanic
Kinda same with keepsakes, it's good to use a variety of them to get them powered up, by which point you'll probably be able to make a more informed decision as to which ones might help your run
||There's also a prophecy for using all keepsakes||
A pattern I've noticed that's persisted for all 57 hours of my current playtime is that most things that sound questionably useful actually turn out to be pretty nice in practice
Agreed. ||Trying to complete all the god boon prophecies has opened my eyes to so many more viable builds.||
I am so hopeless at fishing 
I wait with my finger on the W key, one key over from my action key
Don't watch the bobber too closely; wait for the distinctive flash and the clash noise that indicates you got a bite
don't overthink it, basically, the window isn't THAT tight
Sometimes it helps me to watch the space above the bobber, rather than the bobber itself, since the flash effect reaches up there
So watch above the bobber, not on it
I'll try it with the next fish i get
To be fair I could technically practice with animal crossing but the timing is still difficult
Or just get a controller and use the vibrations for easy win 
You can also listen to the sound.
||woo I beat megaera for the first time!||
Congrats
I used spear with zeus and posiden boons
The fight will be far easier from here on out
Congrats 🎉 🎊
fire indeed hot!
There is a brief grace period where the magma will slow you down but will not immediately start damaging you
Mind your positioning and don't dodge for no reason and you'll minimize the amount of lava baths you take
does posiden not have an attack modifier?
he does
all gods besides hermes have an attack boon that adds something (usually damage)
most gods give +% damage plus something special
@sly vigil I def disagree on your tier list.
I'd put every bow below any shield.
Also the baseline shield is pretty good for new players because the block option makes many of the boss fights and some enemies easier (flame wheels)
Well you are not the only one. That's why I put the disclaimer very subjective tier list
I have yet to see a tier list (by me or anyone else) that draws a consensus. We can agree to disagree.
That would be me. What's up?
i mained it for ages but then they added fists to the game
Which bow?
trying again more recently, i apparently cannot run it with ||heat|| lol
any of them really
In general, you should always dash strike.
even with ||rama?||
Technically yes.
Although that won't be new player territory
I'll just assume my Zag bow, one of my fav
With bow you should look for hammers. Good ones are Triple Twin Chain Shot. Zag Bow Special is underwhelming, I would not build around it.
Artemis is your best friend (very fitting thematically)
Hunter Dash and Deadly Strike.
so you would recommend Zag bow?
Do not pass up Hunter's Dash, no matter what you do. You see an Epic Special against a common Hunter's Dash? You take the Hunter's Dash. Heroic Cast against a common Hunter's Dash? You take the Hunter's Dash
i was trying for heartbreak flourish the other day, my theory being deadly strike+heartbreak flourish -> heart rend, is that not worth it? better to just ignore the special?
so you would recommend Zag bow?
Anybow is good. I like Zag Bow since it's the bowiest of bows
But Hera is also good, although the playstyle is different.
Museus is really good. He can give you advice because me sleepy :D Good luck!
One issue with bow is that the special take a long time to recover from. So Heart Rend could be good with it, but you're probably better off applying it with Cast, imo
Hera is the new 'meta' bow, but it does have an extremely different playstyle, and there are a few bugs/weird interactions you have to play around
You want to dash-strike, and power shot as frequently as possible. The charge up time is shorter, but your damage is also lower, so you need to power shot to get that extra damage back
On what bow?
Zag bow
I like Perfect Shot. Explosive shot is more damage, but it makes you stand still longer, so you'll get hit more
Honestly
All of them are great
i see
Charged Volley is the only thing that makes Zag Bow Special playable, in my opinion
Perfect Shot is a good way to learn the timing for power shots, with a bit of leeway. But Explosive Shot and Charged Volley are your more damaging hammers.
Thanks you
I often end up combining power shot and perfect shot
Oh boy that channel description is on point anyone got some general tips against the second round of heads during the hydra fight? no matter the weapon or build i have it always comes down to ''and now the screen is filled with attacks and i have nowhere to go''
You want to focus fire hard, and work your way down the line from one end.
Your goal is to take out one or two at one side of the room as fast as possible so that you have a place to retreat to. If you focus on dodging the whole place will be filled with projectiles pretty quickly, and that's a war of attrition you probably won't win, but if you can take out a couple the area starts to clear and the tables will turn pretty fast.
Generally, I'd say don't be afraid to take a hit or two when going after the the first few; if you can get rid of them early on then you can switch to playing more defensively and you'll save more hp in the latter end of the fight than you lost.
The other thing is watch out for when two or three heads move close together; if you have decent aoe you potentially take out more than one at once
It also helps if you learn which heads use which attack
There are some heads which can limit where you can move to for safety, and some that will force you to move or get hit
Focusing on 1 or 2 heads at a time is a very effective strat, I tend to do this for the ones that limit movement space
The other thing is grabbing some deflection if you can. Athena boons on either attack or dash (or both) help a great deal if you're overwhelmed by lots of shots. Another option is to get Athena's Aid, let it build up to greater call then drop it as soon as that second round of heads spawn in; try and take out as many as you can with the invincibility up
Yeah Athena's deflect boons are really useful
I prefer Ares' Aid but that's just because I'm impervious as well as dealing a fair bit of damage by just sitting there
Yeah and passive deflection is really useful when there's a lot going on
Yeah I used to go for Ares but I've shifted to preferring Athena fairly recently. It has a longer duration, and if you have a good build the damage is actually higher as you can still use your attacks (not to mention a bunch of free damage from deflection)
I still take Ares sometimes tho
@lean geyser Unless you already know this, pay attention to where the heads will spawn during that split-second window when lava starts bursting in certain places indicating where the heads will pop up. That will give you just a little bit of an idea to where you should be hanging around for the next 10 seconds.
I can see that being useful, especially since I like using Dionysus' special on Zeus aspect and I can just spamming that
I recently had a run where I had Ares' cast and call and Athena's special
Just sending beyblades literally everywhere
beyblades for everyone ❤️
I also had the boon which let me deal more and take less damage when I had no bloodstones so
I pretty much had to use all of my cast beyblades
I wish zeus aspect worked like beyblade
Imagine if zeus aspect worked 
Finally managed to clear it with the gun weapon with Poseidon's special and the Dedalus Hammer that gives you 3 shots of the special just nuke and move since the heads didn't realty move around
congratulations
Nice work
oh yeah triple bomb is a solid hammer
I don't think I've seen that one yet, but I know my boyfriend loves the rocket
Imagine if zeus aspect worked
the secret is to take zeus boons
just like, all of them
Between that and me not using Exagryph much, I don't think I'll get to see it
Thunder flourish should work really well with it for sure
But I prefer drunken flourish because
Well who doesn't like getting their enemies absolutely hammered
It's sad that there's a cap of 5 stacks on it but it's still good
I'll try Zeus next time though
the zeus build is amazing but it was starting to get old after i got a few wins
And if I can get Hermes to speed up my special, that should increase the hit rate right?
i think so
the main thing you want to do is try to get zeus' legendary, splitting bolt
Oh yeah
That seems to be pretty common ironically
Meanwhile I want to try catching a decent fish for once but Poseidon's being stingy
that'll require you to get thunder flourish, then either Double Strike, High Voltage or Storm Lightning
the secret is to take zeus boons
just like, all of them
that makes sense, but I still don't believe it
Legendary boons exist?
yes
i didn't believe it either until i shredded hades with it lol
RNG is against me of course.
Well, for me anyway
why don't we have any hammers for zeus aspect 😦
I haven't looked at the requirements for them except for Poseidon's fishing one
I mean
Empowering flight is pretty good
I think that's the one anyway
Special hits and your next 2 attacks have increased damage
does that work for every hit of the blitz disk?
It should do
i feel like i've actually tried it but i can't remember how it panned out
I don't think the 2 attacks stack every time it hits but you basically should have a constant 80% increase to attacks
yeah
Well it's still default upgrades that just increase damage.
Made even better by Zeus aspect though
I meant something along the lines of increasing disc's radius or turning it into smth else completely
Would be nice
What is titans blood for? I have 2 from beating megeara so far
it's for upgrading weapons
you have to click on a weapon a second time after choosing one.
The titan blood sink opens up ||after unlocking all weapons if I recall||
yes
Also where do I get more titan blood after beating the furies with all weapons? I've spent it all in two weapons and now I have none 
You need to ||beat the final boss||
Yeah just keep trying to get through the game and you'll find more
oh 
I'm trying not to do it until the game is finally released, so it's gonna be a while
Ah
I think there will be some things after the end of the game that will be removed once the game is finished?
So if you wait until then you will likely be missing out on some stuff
really?? can you give me some vague examples?
I mean, the game is a roguelite, it's designed to be beaten dozens of times
there's some amusing dialogue lines, basically
they're pretty fun, but you wouldn't be missing actual story or anything
The only thing I can think of that you'd be super missing out on is how the game frames its unfinished state
Yeah it's nothing major but I find it amusing
It might still be in the game but thats just my theory
there was also talk about new endgame systems, not sure if this means the current heat system is going to be reworked or if it's strictly an addition to what we have
Didn't that happen already? When heat went from 120 something to the ones we have now?
in the noclip documentary they were talking about this as a 1.0 thing
I see thanks.
I have all the weapons but the titans blood isn't usable for me
I can't unlock Rama. I've unlocked all other 4th aspects.
is there a tier list for daedelus boons for spear?
Im liking spear the most of all weps I have
so far
Woah, I unlocked the hidden bow aspect just yesterday
||Artemis gave me the waking phrase on a run when I wasn't using it, after I had brought the hidden spear aspect to the surface||
what do you think about flurry strike?
Flurry Strike is outshined by Serrated Point
which god pairs well with spear? Been trying zeus but i struggle in asphodel
Well, I've unlocked all weapons except Rama..., I was spamming Atemis' trinket all the day.
Still can't get it.
I'm so sad
Athena dash go well with... everything 
So if you want Special focus build:
Explosive/Charged Skewer with Aphrodite/Artemis special
If you want attack focus build:
Serrated Point with Hunter Dash and Aphro/Arty/Demeter attack
Of course it's hard to force builds in a roguelite game, but tentatively that should be what you aim for.
It's what you should grab if it happens to go your way.
But other stuff can be fun too.
A spin build can be nice, especially with Hades aspect.
The sisters were ordered to take a crack at ya
Because it add the fun 
TT more complicated
It will get old fighting the same boss run after run, especially the first boss
So they mix it up a bit
Only a bit! Tisiphone is a scary lass but you can learn her attack patterns just like with Meg, and I'm usually able to just outdamage Alecto
Tisiphone also does not summon adds like the other two do so you only gotta deal with her attacks
Yup, the core e mechanic of the 3 sisters is the same really
tisiphone is a cakewalk with athena
honestly meg is solidly the hardest imo
I think Alecto is hardest
do I actually need deflect
for the witches in asphodel?
im not sure how Im meant to dodge all these balls
Nah, they are doable without. Having some Deflect just makes it much, much easier.
You're probably eating a ball or two here and there without it.
Witches circle to me isn't annoyong because of the bullet hell, but because 80% of the time they're right above the lava
im not sure how Im meant to dodge all these balls
Dash a lot.
Learning dash i frames is huge in improving gameplay (at least for me)
Or just facetank the projectiles if you have enough damage
they’re also not that tough, and once you take out a couple it becomes much easier
the trap is being too defensive imo
or at least it is for me
best is use pillars
Is magma consider trap?
Yes
Athena special on coronacht absolutely obliterates witches circle
it's like the easiest Asphodel fight
Yup
Quit the game without going into another room
It'll revert to when you entered that room
@dull perch
Oofie. Sorry xD
Oh wait
You already started the run, but did you leave the courtyard before going back in and starting the run?
his bedroom?
Yeah, did you go into his bedroom, or did you start a run?
Hit give up, it'll revert to when you entered the courtyard (weapon room)
oh nice
Ye
and you just learned how to save scum in Hades.
XD
dash attacks benefit from things like heartseeker strike right?
alright tyty
So, Hermes' Swift Strike boon that boosts attack speed - does that remove the damage buff from shattered shackle?
No.
So you can get Hunter Dash + nothing on Attack (plus Shackle) and still have both effects on Dash Strike.
Sick
Okay, wait, just to be clear: there's nothing to be gained by gifting nectar to people you've already gotten keepsakes from right
only dialogue
But like just incidental dialog, nothing that contributes to anything that develops over multiple runs
Rite
I have 150+ hours and don't remember seeing much development related to gifts past keepsakes. Maybe some events actually triggered only when reaching a certain level of affinity, but I can't say for sure. I just kept giving everybody nectars and ambrosia until they couldn't take them anymore
there are story events tied to every characters’ hearts
There are specific characters who give you something extra at full hearts.
But otherwise, yeah.
But does gifting extra nectar affect their hearts
Cuz I've been using nectar exclusively for trading for diamonds and stuff and haven't gifted anyone more than once
Nectar gives hearts.
ahuh
so THAT'S why I feel like most of my dialog has been stagnant for the past 50 runs
Makes sense
Hahahaha

The amount of times I've slammed my face against a wall frantically trying to slurp at the well is too high.
those goddamn cure urinals
Only just now realizing how Hades is the only one whose "Gift" interaction option ||goes away when you do it once||
|| look in the Codex ||
Yeah, so hot tip for new players, don't be a total spanner like me, it's okay to give nectar to your friends after the first time, gosh I don't know why I ever thought that was the case lol
Gotta give away all the nectars 
question, i have done 6 or 7 runs onw. My bow says "+2-%" to the purple currency
is that normal or is that the game encouraging me to pick up that weapon?
20%**
to encourage variety?
To help you farm, to encourage variety, to give people a 'randomize' option.
ahh
thank you
Does gifting nectar to characters expand what boons can be granted by them?
Nope.
just story/dialogue then?
Does gifting nectar to characters expand what boons can be granted by them?
@dim spindle If you've given certain characters enough nectar, you will be able to gift them the Ambrosia you get from clearing Elysium and receive a surprise.
@dim spindle no all boons are available at the beginning. Giving people nectar is the primary way of advancing the story and there is late game gameplay advancements rewarded for giving people nectar.
Is it safe to start the story on PC now even though I plan on continuing the file on Switch? I would rather not restart.
they will not have cross platform at start
maybe toward the end of the year, but not at release, so it is up to yoi
I've played for around 6 hours now, and I've yet to see a demeter boon. Are they more towards endgame or are they really rare?
you only get her after beating the final boss once
Oh, I see. It's weird that the wiki doesn't mention it
Nah, you need to ||reach the surface once, the outcome of the final boss fight isn't relevent||
oh fair enough, i got lucky and beat it first try so i assumed that was it
The wiki is slightly outdated i think
Is it possible to get huge catch at the start of a run?
It happened once or was that just to give me the prophecy?
That is a scripted event, but usually it has 2 prerequisite boons (sunken treasure and oceans bounty)
Yeah I got them just before the third boss fight and proceeded to get given the boon in the Styx
That is a better question for #h1-story-discussion @fervent steeple won't have to worry about spoiler tags there either
Ah my apologies! I'll remove that post
Oh my there's a way to view boons. is that taught somewhere in-game?
You can view your current boons with B on keyboard and "back" button on Xbox controller
There no encyclopedia of boons in the game, no. There should be though
Oh my there's a way to view boons. is that taught somewhere in-game?
@unborn ledge yeah, it's shown on your very first run
"B" or "<" (back) depending on control set up
-press [the button] to view boons
pops up as an objective
Gotcha. That didn't seem that long ago. Thanks, y'all
That is what I meant, although an encyclopedia of collected boons would be interesting
There aren't THAT many boons. Like there's about a dozen per god, but there's a ton of ||duo|| boons. and altogether there are maybe like, 150ish boons. There's an extremely popular mod that lets you apply any boon you want to zagreus so you can do damage testing easily.
what does "Fountain Chamber, Tartarus" contract do ?
adds a random chance you'll get a healing room in tartarus
Sometimes you'll now be able to enter a room with no enemies and a fountain that will heal you. It's a big respite on a run!
and it's free!
And very useful if you happen to have the boon strong drink >.>
I love that boon so much I always roll Dio keepsake for a region to try and get it
I thought that boon was garbage until I realized that the fountains in the transitional chambers between biomes count towards it. Now I'm a big fan as well.
YEah
I try to go every run with it, which is probably a problem but I can't do the last region on low health - just, nope
I get super reckless at the end of each region when I have that boon because I know it'll heal me up right after.
Yeah same
But I'm getting on with higher heat where I'm not used to the challenges so I just end up losing a death defiance or two by the end of the third boss
||Some might not give anything||
My innate playstyle is reckless
what does rank mean exactly ?
I am assuming by rank you mean keepsake rank. With each rank your keepsake will be more powerful via stats bump. Max rank 3.
oh that refers to how many times you’ve upgraded it
oh im dumb then
so if you spend darkness on boiling blood once, you get +10% damage, twice you get +20% etc.
no worries
@regal halo
Mirror: stat increase
Keepsake: stat increase
||Legendary hidden keepsake: use amounts increase||
|| Legendary keepsakes are generally considered a spoiler, iirc ||
Alright
How would you build the Bow? What's there to focus on?
I'm on my 20s escape attempt and made it 3 times to the surface, haven't fully beating the boss though, so spoiler-free would be appreciated
i'm not the best with the bow myself, but main thrust is to focus on dash attacking
try to get into a rhythm of doing dash power shots, then stack dash attack damage as much as you can. Artemis dash is almost a must, and you want either Aphro or Arty on your attack as those add the biggest % bonuses (which is great for bow as it has high base damage)
anytime chaos offers you +% dash take it as well
Sounds about right
I feel like Deflect on the Special is kind of a must
Or it's good, lets put it that way
explosive shot and twin shot hammers are both amazing
chain is also pretty good
yeah a lot of people like deflection on the special
What about Doom?
i don't mind doom on the special yeah
i don't think it works that well on attack tho
np
another thing that can be fun after getting arty on attack is aphro on either special or cast, then try to get the aphro/arty duo boon, Heart Rend
can be a big damage boost
What do you need to do to get the duos offered frequently
They just started to show up on my last 2 attempts
I guess I'm at the 15th or so, then
they have prerequisites
Firstly learn the prerequisite boons from either god
so Heart Rend requires a crit chance, and a way of inflicting weakness before it will turn up
pressure points doesnt work tho
Also some duos need very specific boons so just keep the wiki up if youre going duo hunting
yeah it has to be a core boon iirc
at least for Heart Rend
so the aphro revenge one doesn't count either
I'll do so eventually, I'm still in the discovery phase
there's also the mirror talent, and also not taking any god except for the two you want
It's working out really well so far, I've been making it to Styx every time for the last 5 attempts
I'll keep that in mind, ty
It's a fantastic game
agreed
you can only ever have one keepsake equipped at one time if that's what you mean
Yup!
definitely
cuz i just gifted a boon to artemis
and she gave me one where she'll appear next time?
yup
oh so its worth it
definitely
ive been using nyx's one
that's also good!
There is || a way to swap them mid-run, between regions ||
wonder if there's any secrets i havent unlocked yet
probably :P
i cleared the game once on god mode but im going in again cuz there's so manythings i wanna do
any priorities???
are contractor stuff worth.... ive been focusing only on mirror
the Work Orders are, for the most part, very useful
Without spoiling it, is it worth it to keep giving gifts to someone? The Nectar, that is, I know you don't get a keepsake again after the first time, but do you get additional interesting dialog or smth?
Yes
Yeah, so hot tip for new players, don't be a total spanner like me, it's okay to give nectar to your friends after the first time, gosh I don't know why I ever thought that was the case lol
Quote from me learning how to get hearts with people after ignoring the "Gift" prompt for 50 hours
More than just dialog sometime
do doom effects stack, or can only one be applied at a time?
Yes and no
Nornal doom, no
There is a boon that allow doom to stack, but only up the damage a bit
Dire misfortune?
Oh wait
Does it make it so that each stack you apply after the first increases the damage by the small amount?
yes it is
Quick question, please no spoilers! Hades is a rogue like right? Is it more like Gungeon and Dead Cells where you can get permanent upgrades? Or is it more like Risk of Rain where you don't have permanent upgrades?
the former
Thanks!
there's a main progression system involved!
What you are looking for is rougelike vs rougelite. Permanent progression refers to a roguelite.
Do you still only gain access to the other weapons after beating the game for the first time?
In short, no. Long answer contains mild spoiler, unless you want that.
it's never been locked behind beating the game 
jeez Lysol, thought you were someone else
pog
Are deaths similar to souls game ??? As in you lost all progress and items ?
i will get around to this game in a few years lul
Are deaths similar to souls game ??? As in you lost all progress and items ?
@gleaming shard no, deaths are how you progress
As of now I am enjoying remnant from ashes
@gleaming shard no, deaths are how you progress
@tepid vale As in ?
that's an interesting mechanic
Well I guess that's the issue, the progression for beginning the game was always weird. I'm a veteran but you can spoiler tag your answer. I had no access to other weapons till I beat the game like back in March.
like, you should probably die at least a dozen times before you ever win
probably several dozen
Thats a new level of game design
you get stronger by spending meta resources after you die
The game is still in early access ??? What is Version 1 ?
the game is no longer in early access
It's no longer in EA @gleaming shard. It's out in its entirety. Don't mind the Epic thumbnail.
@cyan orbit that's user error, hardware problems or, (extremely unlikely,) a bug
No.
The game has a buffer system, if you hit Attack + Dash at the same time, the game will take that as a Dash Strike. But that still requires an Attack input.
in that sense, then yes
buffer system is what you experienced.
you can't cancel with a dash
Does dash have i frames
it just changes where your attack comes out
@restive spoke Yes, if it's pure dash
Does dash have i frames
@restive spoke only if you don't attack during your dash
If anyone has the game on switch, hows the frame rate?
if you dash + attack, you lose i frames
guess that just means i spam attack less now
@cyan orbit or you can abuse it 😉
||https://youtu.be/3vWaNZoIwSE?t=291|| shameless plug on what abusing the buffer system looks like. (mid spoiler for 1st boss). stop watching if you don't want that 😄
yup
yes
yes, but aim assist doesn't work for melee weapons so that should not matter here. I'm happy to gives some tips (it's fairly easy).
just mash your attack and dash at the same time. the hard part is controlling where you dash. you have as many attack in the combo as you have dashes. so let's say you have 2 dashes, do Attack + Dash at the same time x2 in quick succession.
you can use special to cover yourself between the dash cd. just try it out on Skelly, it works on both sword and spear.
yeah
hope this helps!
No online co op right ?
No
Ah 😦
What are the currencies in this game
I keep getting stuff that I don’t know what it does
just keep playing. all will be revealed in due time
Hey y'all. I just bought the game (on mobile, still at work unfortunately).
I'm curious what the consensus is between KBM vs Controller? I have read a few forum posts and folks seem split on it. Analog movement better on controller but aim better on KBM. Anyone know what the devs may have intended?
from what I have seen, it does not matter. but in game, there is a suggestion box to play on controller.
having played on both, I also think it doesn't matter. I have a controller and I like sitting on a couch
Try both and use the one you're most comfy with
so controller for now
Oh! I didn't realize there was a "best experienced with a controller" screen, guess I should have booted it up before asking lol. A lot of the posts I read are old since the games been in EA for a while. Thanks!
I'll probably start off with a controller since that's how I played bastion and transistor
controller + mouse
the real chad move
smooth movement + good aim
smooth movement + good aim
@mint relic have u seen those weird keyboard where it’s the shape of a glove? U use thumb for 360 movement and other four fingers for keys
U use a mouse for the other hand
It’s honestly crazily good
That works too xD but you have two button presses on ur left hand
Three if u count stick
it's okay
just have a mouse with at least four buttons and you're good
no
that's the crappy one that I complain about every time I go anywhere and can't play Hades
Guys what are the four icons on the left of my screen
when you are in a run?
that would be your Main boons
the one directly power up your moves
Yea boons
@ember citrus
Only the first one is light up
What about the next three
What do they represent in order?
Ah I see thanks
What does my cast do
I just throw out something?
Does it have any effects
you basic cast throw out a "blood stone"
at the beginning, it is only a damaging move
but you will get to "upgrade" it via the mirror
you get extra damage hiting enemy with a blood stone in it
Do I go for keys or darkness when I’m just starting out the game?
plus boons can make casts do all kinds of crazy stuff
I say keys
you will need both, but keys route is more fun
Hello! New to the game and excited to play it! Do you guys recommend kb&m or controller?
controller for me
It does not matter, I used to use both to equal effectiveness. But I now I use controller.
it honestly seems to be a pretty even split, with solid reasons to go either way
mouse and controller
i saw a guy do controller and mouse on the other channel
Real chad move
tho ofc there is the mouse and controller crowd
i saw a guy do controller and mouse on the other channel
@ember citrus What😂
can’t forget them
Alright cool
you get smooth controller movement and good mouse aim
yeah he’s put like 600 hours into this game so it’s hard to argue with his strats tbh
straight KBM for me tho
I think I'll try controller for comfort
If I find that I'm having trouble with the aiming I'll try kbm
Thanks!
How many rooms are there
i don’t think there is a way, other than counting
71 for me
well, technically the number of rooms can vary, yeah
i think mine’s 71 as well, so prolly that
I think you can hit B on keyboard to check boons and the room should be top right
wait what
Unless I have a special ability to check room # o.O
It's quite nice for checking when boss is coming up xD
yeah for sure
For controller users, do you recommend aim assist?
yup
I recommend using a mouse
you have to rebind some buttons, but you absolutely can and should use a controller and a mouse
bruh
I'm fine with my kb + mouse, I'm controller dumb
honestly, you should rebind buttons on base KBM imho
i love SGG, but i find their decision to put special on Q baffling
q for special is kind of awful, yeah
I do so on every game I play, especially due to extra mouse buttons
honestly, you should rebind buttons on base KBM imho
@formal rover
or putting reload on R3 xD
Oh I should rebind my reload...
or putting reload on R3 xD
@sly vigil I hate L3 and R3
careful
Reload to L1, Codex to R3, seriously, how many times do you access the Codex to warrant that.
yeah mouse buttons are boss
the expletive filter can't catch contractions, but children can
dunno how i survived without them tbh
@fleet nymph
yeah @fleet nymph if you could remove the swear from your comment that would be great
removing letters etc still counts as a swear
Forgot it wasn't allowed, thanks for the heads up
thanks 😊
Are the mirror upgrades permanent
Or only for one run
Can I equip multiple talents at once
Or is it one talent only
Mirror upgrades are permanent, they can be equip all at once
(there is a flip side that you can use only one of each, however)
no, sadly
you can't have, for instance, fiery and shadow presence simultaneously
there are 6 of them
Oh
so if you have sword and spear, 4 more to go 😄
the one you have access to but haven't unlocked is the shield
the other two can be unlocked once you have it
Ah I see thx
Is there a way to see how many deaths I have
Like stats
Oops nvm I see
yeah, there are some upgrades that will provide a decent amount of meta information
the game has a lot of contents, just you wait 😄
Is there a way to manually save
no, at least not intended by the devs
it's a roguelite game. autosave is a feature, not a bug 😄
if the game says you can "quit" your progress is saved
Saved as in I’ll continue the run where I left off?
yes
Nice nice thank u
guys
Are my boons active at all times?
how do I unlock the lastest aspect of the launch patch
Even when they’re not displaying as one of the four icons?
yes
only the "core" boons will be displayed as the four icons, all the other buffs will be stored in the boon menu
I like the spear
only the "core" boons will be displayed as the four icons, all the other buffs will be stored in the boon menu
@sly vigil ah ok but all of em are active right?
Even the non core ones
yes. if you look, there is a little indicator for you to "select" stuff, it doesn't do anything. don't mind it. everything you gather along the way is always online, no question asked.
Yesssss I was gonna ask about it
(unless you sell them then duh, they are no longer active)
it's just so you can read the description, don't worry!
Basically
You get stronger as u get more boons
Correct?
And u eventually beat the game
yeah. have you played any roguelite games before?
same exact thing
Cool cool sounds good
I think you will really like the game
please check pins in #h1-story-discussion
How many mirror talents can u equip at the same time?
All of them?
Nice
Basically the whole mirror will be filled
Technically you have 2 sides for each talent. Only one side is active at a given time.
But you can have all the upgrades
If u have all the upgrades
Let's just say you will need the upgrades
There are late game difficulty scaling options
You know the reward icon before u enter a room?
Sometimes it’s shining
Like rays of white light coming from it
Does it mean anything
Yup there should be a skull icon below that. It means the room is harder but the reward tends to be higher
You can get scammed by RNG, of course, but the reward is tentatively higher.
Ah I see
I’m having a hard time recognizing the reward icons
So many of them lol
Yeah. That you will get used to.
At least it's not like Isaac where you have no idea what an item even does until later.
And for that I am thankful
I hate it when roguelikes don’t tell me what stuff do before I purchase it
is there a page with all the upgrades and features, etc? kinda confused by everything
just so i know what everything does
so far you have the WIKI but the game change alot since v1.0 start
alright thank you
another question, sorry if its dumb (ive never played a dungeon crawler before), when i die and try again am i loosing progress or am i picking up where i left off?
Yeah, every roguelite is like this. You have "perma" death. Except you can grow a bit stronger with each death with some upgrades.
Try to not stress about dying, death is a big part of game, you'll learn a lot more about what's going on in the house of hades on each death, and you'll learn more about the game itself.
Finishing the game only takes about an hour, so it's not that big of a deal if you die.
And yeah, you keep a couple of currencies that you collect during your run, so you'll be able to get stronger and upgrades a couples of things when you die.
Np 😄
this game isnt just about finish, there are more and more behind it. Conversation with everyone, finding secret, doing fate,..
Weapons to upgrade and unlock
Enjoy, this game is a treat IMO.
im sure it is, already loving it, just trying to get familiar with the gameplay
fr thank you guys for being so helpful!!
if you have any question, I'm down to help.
yh if i have q ill be sure to ask on here, thanks!
what is the Decorative Themes i dont see any diference? what changes?
What are aspects? How do I get em?
Did you unlock all weapons?
No
LOL
Am I too far ahead of myself
We’ll see how it goes xD I don’t like to rush myself
How many enemy types are there in the game ?? I scrubbed through an hour long footage of a guy playing it, all I saw were Gin like figures on repeat
😦
4 biomes, each with at least 5-6 different enemies.
Gennie type?
Thugs/Louts probably
Or the biomes are random ?
Thugs/Louts probably
@bold apex Yes Pink like puffy ginnies
No. Biomes are fixed. And yeah, the gennies are only in first
Although thugs aren't pink 
What the hell is hell mode
I am speaking out of limited knowledge, planning to get the game
Should I start a fresh save with hell mode
sauce it's pain mode mang 😮
Do we get shields ?
I can’t change it to hell mode if I’m in the save file??
yes hell mode is after you have beat normal mode and looking for a harder challenge
You need to start a new file for Hell Mode, yes
What if I wanna play hell mode? I have to start a fresh save?
It has base Heat enabled
@restive spoke nope. It's not worth it
So can I turn up the heat if I’m not in hell mode?
How many weapons we get in total though ?
dang sauce you going in wild XD
6
Do I get the normal gameplay experience
Each weapons has 4 variations
And which is the best one ?
If my save is not in hell mode
And which is the best one ?
@gleaming shard play to find out
Ok
😃
Hell Mode is basically forced difficulty.
Normal is the best , once that is to easy on max heat you go to hell mode lol
Coming from Remnant from ashes
game is hard sauce lol
You can enable the se difficulty on normal later, so you are not missing anything substantial.
Hell Mode is basically forced difficulty.
@sly vigil but I will be able to get the same gameplay experience as hell mode if I’m on normal
Ahhhh I see
So basically it’s a jump start in difficulty. But I’ll be able to play at the same difficulties later on
I was worried that I’ll eventually miss out on some gameplay
But both modes have the same ceilings right?
Meaning that one is not higher at all times
Hellmode is a tiny bit harder
You lose your "oneshot" protection, kinda. I don't want to go too much in details
Ah ok
But if I play my save in normal I’ll eventually catch on to the higher difficulties?
Correct
I don’t wanna start a fresh save later on just to play higher difficulties lol
Nice thank you
Everything you enjoy on Hell Mode, you can enjoy on Normal, but not vice versa.
(with a tiny exception of "OSP")
That’s a bit confusing lol
So I will eventually have to start a save in hell mode
If I wanna get a higher difficulty
Than what I can get in normal
Technically yes, but the max difficulty Normal is almost equal to Hell Mode. The only thing Hell Mode has over Normal is that you don't have "one shot" protection. That's it
@sly vigil would you recommend starting from Hell Mode?
No. I think most people would agree with me, also.
In fact, most of the record challenging runs on this server are done on Normal mode.
Is there any way to track what boons you've received in the past mid-run for the fates??
hmm.. i see. i'll start in normal mode. thx FoxHope
When you see a boon, there should be a little scroll symbol for what you haven't picked @silent trail
has anyone confirmed if Hades is running 60fps on the Switch?
Greater reflex good?
Maybe I should save up for greater reflex
has anyone confirmed if Hades is running 60fps on the Switch?
@hushed mulch judging by my human eyes yes it’s targeting 60
Yes! 2 dashes are invaluable.
Although there will be occasionally stutters
Ahh thank you!! <3 and did I understand that you can only get ritual blood with one weapons @sly vigil??
Yes! 2 dashes are invaluable.
@sly vigil well now I regret using my darkness
@silent trail In the early game, yes. Of course there will be more ways to earn more blood.
@restive spoke ah ty. im fine with stutter. that's good to hear 👍
Thanks @sly vigil
How does keepsakes work
I mean there is the Defiance thing, which is about the most valuable, then I would say the 2 dashes
One at a time. After each biome you can swap out for another.
Yup.
Just discover at your own pace. The only thing I would say is Evergreen Acorn is stronger than it sounds.
Nice ok thanks
Early game it’s good to use the collar as that gives extra hp
What are blood
You use that to upgrade weapons (aspects).
It’s a late game item you shouldn’t worry too much about it but don’t sell them lol
You should be able to beat the game without upgrading any items
Ok so it’s late game stuff
Bounties sounds confusing as hell
If I get the first three but not the fourth bounty on a heat, and i complete some new bounties on the next heat, will I be able to come back to the original heat and still get the blood for the fourth bounty
Or do I just miss out on it
Did you beat the game already?
Oh no no no this already sounds difficult as hell
pun 😏
No not at all xD
pun 😏
@hushed mulch ahaha
I’m watching some guides and it mentioned blood
So I was just wondering lol
I think the heat stuff will make sense once you get there :D
Aight thank you
The heat stuff will make sense but basically it’s “tiers” per heat level. And it retroactively rewards you. Let’s say you’re at heat level 5 and you crank it up to heat level 10. The game will reward you the heat level 5 rewards first, you can play heat 10 6 times before having to move the heat level up from there. Makes sense?
ah kinda like Slay the Spire
Yep exactly
Also I recommend not watching any guides for this game
They don’t help too much and they mainly bias you into not trying different stuff
Try everything, guides are good for building a foundation though
thx for the recommendation. i saw a high heat run before and nothing made sense anyway ahaha
The fun bit about Hades is how flexible each weapon can be. Don't ruin it with guides, just figure out what you like about each weapon and build around it
Also there’s no dark souls tier secrets that are unbelievably difficult to find
thank goodness
The game unfolds for you
or are there?
There isn't.
I’m pretty sure there’s not
Aside from dialogue snippets.
I haven’t seen the credit scene yet though
The heat stuff will make sense but basically it’s “tiers” per heat level. And it retroactively rewards you. Let’s say you’re at heat level 5 and you crank it up to heat level 10. The game will reward you the heat level 5 rewards first, you can play heat 10 6 times before having to move the heat level up from there. Makes sense?
@rocky sigil ah thank you
@restive spoke np basically the game is challenging you to bump the heat up every time you finish a successful run
it's a gradual and modular system of difficulty designed to test the player's skill at their own pace
honestly it's pretty genius
Yup, it lets me go from 1 heat to 57, get demolished and say never again.
It's also nice for some mix and match spice. Sometimes you want traps to absolutely wreck you and for bosses to wreck you harder
I’ve played with a bunch of combinations and the ones I find unbearable are the ones that increase the enemy attack rate and the ones that limit your abilities
hey guys, question, should I be getting an achievement before I ever play anything? It doesn't seem right... just unlocked Friends Forever just after starting the game
How do I get the fishing rod
Yeah no that's not supposed to happen O.o
time?
Achievements just happened so bugs are bound to happen
thanks @candid nimbus , uploading report
Thanks for uploading!
I saw a few people comment on this on the reddit, so hopefully it's been spotted.
It's just the game declaring that you'll be it's pal forever
I've been dragging my heels on getting Hades, despite my love of previous games and more generally this type of game. But, learning it's on the Switch now, is there particular reason to go Steam or Switch?
Depends how you want to play at that point I guess? I don't own a Switch so ez decision
(And Steam achievements)
I personally like the precise aiming with kb+m.
Am more comfortable with it than with joysticks, especially for the bow or rail (ranged weapons) or also the shield throw.
What, Proxy o.O. Steam has trading cards, badges and the usual steam game stuff it seems
to unlock aspect of lucifer do i need to just talk to zues a bunch of times and hope for the right dialogue? i have the aspect of guan yu and the necessary titan blood upgrades already
Such a good game!!!
The broker is offering 200 gemstones for one unit of titan blood and I'm trying to figure out if it's worth it
Such a good game!!!
@mossy maple Such a good game.
I googled it about titan blood and it didn't sound like a big deal
should be possible to grind
I'm not 100% sure as I haven't tested 😄 But according to people online
awesome, thanks for the spoiler free answer
really digging my first hour or so of this game, playing on Switch. It's immediately grabbed me in a way Spelunky 2 didn't.
Although... Spelunky 2 is out?
yeah it released a couple of days ago
well for ps4, pc version in ~2 weeks
@fleet nymph might be coming in late on this but I can confirm that no resources are fully limited. you should get "enough" of those special resources through normal progressive gameplay and can sometimes get more at repeatable points
@fleet nymph might be coming in late on this but I can confirm that no resources are fully limited. you should get "enough" of those special resources through normal progressive gameplay and can sometimes get more at repeatable points
@patent narwhal Good to know! thank you
Can stubborn defiance be ranked up?
no
nope, it's just one level
Titan blood is limited to 2 per weapon per heat up to 20 heat, and you'll need to buy the rest from the trader
Early on it's much more valuable to spend your darkness on the mirror though

I mean I still suggest to save it
Darkness isn't too hard to grind compared to Titan Blood
The bounties don't give you enough titan blood to max the weapons aspects anyways
Thanks for the tips!
Although I did already sell one for 200 gemstones
Can't say I regret it yet since I still have no idea what the titan blood does
You can find out after beating the final boss once
Nyes 
man i got to the last boss
got so close
or at least what i think is the last boss
mr redacted
I can't believe the finale game is OUT!!!! I started a new save to get the full experience of the story and all the added voice lines and stuff, but I sure am missing all my Darkness! T.T Did anyone else start over?? I can't tell if I entirely regret it or not, lol...
Oh you're not alone don't worry
I started a new hell mode save to experience it like a bit of a noob again
And yes I do miss my darkness 
GREAT! High five!! I'm not alonnneeeeee ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
Now it's such an effort to get 2 Death Defiances, while on the other save I have so much Darkness I don't know what to do with it... XP But, overall, starting over is fun, I think! 😄 I can't wait to get the alternate Weapon Aspects, but I haven't even met Thanatos yet.
I just beat the final boss on my new save just last night so I'd say i'm making progress. Still haven't met Than yet as well T^T
I m starting the game for the first time.. today.. bought it this morning..
I know next to nothing.. except for my fan knowledge of Greek mythology..
I hope there's anything's.. which I can miss by mistake or something like that is there ?
You don't need any prior knowledge to enjoy a supergiant game
. Just enjoy the experience and if you have any questions, feel free to ask them here! Hope you enjoy your stay in hell 
Yayy!!! I love Underworld so much.. I wish they had a internship or something love to pet Cerberus all day
