h1-for-new-players

[stuck zenith]

okay thanks

last question sorry 😅

[midnight apex]

It’s on the spear actually lol, and it’s my second fav weapon

[midnight apex]

Don’t apologise for asking questions lol

[stuck zenith]

is there some sort of checkpoint

like do i keep beating that woman everytime

[midnight apex]

Nope

It’s a rogue lite, there are no checkpoints

[stuck zenith]

skips maybE?

[midnight apex]

So get used to fighting Meg, you’ll see her a lot

[midnight apex]

Nope

[stuck zenith]

ugh

[midnight apex]

None known

At least to me

[stuck zenith]

no short cuts and i have to beat those things everytime

[midnight apex]

It’s part of the genre

[stuck zenith]

yeah i understand

i actually like the system

just wish that after major progression

it unlocks a checkpoint or something

but whatever

thats just me ranting 😂

[midnight apex]

Then it wouldn’t be a roguelite lol

[stuck zenith]

thanks for the help 🙏

[midnight apex]

Dw after you play a bunch they become second nature

[stuck zenith]

i see

i have only like an hour of playtime 😂

so i still got a long way ahead of me

[midnight apex]

You got a longggggg way to go yeah

[stuck zenith]

oh sorry, i forgot, the nectar thingy

what does it do

does it reward me with a keepsake?

[midnight apex]

Give it to people

[midnight apex]

Yes

It also progresses story

[stuck zenith]

oh there is a story?

[midnight apex]

Yes

[stuck zenith]

i thought it was just me escaping 😂

cool

[midnight apex]

Well nectar specifically progresses relationships

With characetrs

Which tie into the story

And add more narratives

[stuck zenith]

very cool

[midnight apex]

Very cool indeed

[stuck zenith]

is there anything that tracks my story progression

just to know where im at

[midnight apex]

Codex tracks relationship progression im pretty sure

And the rest is mostly key moments and amount of escapes

But there’s no percentage thing that tells you

[midnight apex]

Because escaping isn’t the end of the story

Not even close

[stuck zenith]

wow

[stuck zenith]

does the amount of escapes change anything

[midnight apex]

Yes

[stuck zenith]

like if i escape in 5 tries

oh wow

thats...

[midnight apex]

Oh like that no

There’s nothing like that

But how many successful escapes you’ve done is directly related to where you are in the story

[stuck zenith]

escapeS?

[midnight apex]

The credits are after 10 escapes, but really that’s like 15% of the game

[midnight apex]

Yes plural

[stuck zenith]

isnt it like escaping once and boom im out of underworld sipping wine in olympus

[midnight apex]

I can’t tell you that

[stuck zenith]

makes sense

[stuck zenith]

are there multiple endings then?

[midnight apex]

If you’re familiar with the mythos you can warrant a guess

[midnight apex]

Nah

There’s a credit and an epilogue, and that’s it

Though the epilogue takes a while

[stuck zenith]

i mean all i read was some like percy jackson books when i was young 😂

[midnight apex]

I somehow haven’t read Percy Jackson, so idk how much it might help

[stuck zenith]

credit as in like first ending? i dont understand

[midnight apex]

Credits as in the main storyline is finished

[stuck zenith]

oh

[midnight apex]

And they roll the credits

[stuck zenith]

thats 15% of the game??

[midnight apex]

There’s more postgame than pregame gameplay wise

And story wise too in a way

Any more questions?

[stuck zenith]

I see

Thanks

And sorry for the many questions 😂

[midnight apex]

Again, don’t apologise for not knowing stuff you couldn’t have known. I like hades, and I like talking about it.

Hope you have some fun! Maybe we’ll talk again. In the meantime GOOD NIGHT.

[stuck zenith]

so im 1hp

like 2 maps in

um

what am i supposed to do actually

i have no clue

[rose plume]

You beat the game obviously

[stuck zenith]

spoiler

died right after

i have a question

if i see a trial of gods

and a normal god

[rapid storm]

depends

[stuck zenith]

why would i go for the trial of gods

or does it give better rewards

[rapid storm]

you cant get duo boons from trials but because they give more boons it can be more worth it

[stuck zenith]

i can?

[rapid storm]

so if your build is focused on duo boons, and you need it from the singular god, take that probably, unless you dont meet the conditions for it

[stuck zenith]

build? focused on duo boons?

i dont focus on any boons

i just take whatever

does taking certain boons together do some kind of synergy?

like rn i have artemis or artemis and poseidon

artemis and poseidion is harder and makes one god mad at me

so artemis is the better choice?

[rapid storm]

yeah and they can also work well with the aspects of weapons, like for the fists, the aspect of talos(when you use your special, it works well with knockback things because you would keep slamming them into the wall and then pulling them back to repeat

[stuck zenith]

fists? there are fists?

wow thats so cool

[rapid storm]

whatever god you wont choose will always get mad with their dialogue and affect the fight with what their certain powers are, zeus has lighning, aphrodite charms you making you unable to move or do anything for i think 1s and so on for the other gods, you cant get hermes from them tho

[stuck zenith]

hermes is useless no

[rapid storm]

no

[stuck zenith]

that guy never gave me something "good"

[rapid storm]

hes amazing

[stuck zenith]

what

isnt he the wings guy

[rapid storm]

yeah

[stuck zenith]

yeah he never gave me something good

maybe just unlucky

[rapid storm]

he has a boon called rush delivery, and it increases your damage based on whatever % increase of speed you have

he has more specific things, the dashes are always a good option, side hustle isnt too bad especially if you get it early, and the others depend on how youre playing with what build you have

[stuck zenith]

ah i see

maybe i havent gone too far to see how good he is

is artemis good?

i think she is? she always gives me crazy buffs

[rapid storm]

depends on the weapon, on things that are slower but more damage, you can get critical hits for like 2000 damage and more but it does depend heavily on the weapon

for the damage

[stuck zenith]

i see

[rapid storm]

oh shoot i need to censor some of these things for other people

give me a sec

[stuck zenith]

sure take ur time

idk who is my favourite god honestly

maybe poseidon

or athena

the deflect and knockback save me alot

[rapid storm]

wait maybe not im pretty sure these are fine right now

athena is pretty good because her core boons(attack, special, cast, dash) have good damage/%dmg increase even at lower raritys

posideon has lower end % i think but his dash is the best in the game

like 100%

[stuck zenith]

dash?

do u mean his dash buff?

[rapid storm]

yeah

just shortened to just dash

[stuck zenith]

oh

mb

[stuck zenith]

yes

that

she always gives great buffs

[rapid storm]

you good, a bunch of others i still need to learn too

aphrodite also has great % increase for her stuff and her debuff is pretty good too

[stuck zenith]

i kinda hate zeus and aprhodite

the weak buff is too weak 😂

[rose plume]

[stuck zenith]

doesnt feel impactful

[rapid storm]

30% less damage is pretty good, like that can be like 200 damage saved in runs

probably more actually, assuming you get it early

[stuck zenith]

oh right

how did i forget

CHAOS

[fresh bridge]

weak is extremely strong

[stuck zenith]

oh

maybe

30% is like what

2-3 damage everytime?

could stack

right

[rapid storm]

if weak saved 300 damage over an entire run, you would take 700 total instead of 1000

[stuck zenith]

yeah yeah i understand

that is rly good yeah

[rapid storm]

and theres a set of 2 duo boons that let you get big crits, you get dionysus and aphrodite duo(allows for more stacks of hangover if they are also affected by weak) and dionysus and artemis duo(enemies affected by hangover have a 1.5% higher chance of crit per stack of hangover they have) its like a lot of crit chance

[stuck zenith]

i see

i didnt know that

well good to know there are synergies

im guessing zeus and poseidon dont get along

[rapid storm]

aint no way my friend decided that telling me that clash royale added a 67 emote to clash was worth an entire text over

sorry

[stuck zenith]

its fine 😂

[rapid storm]

some bs he comes up with sometimes istg

[stuck zenith]

well friends do be like that 😂

thanks for the help btw

[rapid storm]

wait its actually real wtf

[stuck zenith]

sorry for the questions as well

[rapid storm]

np

all good

[formal frost]

30% is the same reduction as Bracer at epic no?

[stuck zenith]

idk what that is im sorry 😔

[formal frost]

oh dw abt it

keepsake later in game

is good

[somber frigate]

It’s literally not

Very high amojnt

You live 40% longer against weakened enemies

[rapid storm]

he realized already

[stuck zenith]

why did the first boss change :/

[rapid storm]

it will cycle through 3 now, Megara, the one youre used to, same attacks as normal nothing changed, alecto, pretty similar attacks but has a new feature and sawblades, and then tisiphone, who has pretty different attacks and arena shrinks every 1/3 of hp lost

idk if its an order that in cycles through or not

[midnight apex]

Well, it would be boring if you fought the same first boss every single time

[rapid storm]

god damn it i hate having to choose between 2 really good duo boons in the same select

ill probably do the one that affects the higher level thing tho

[midnight apex]

Which two

[rapid storm]

smair and low tolerance

took low tolerance bc i have level 4 rare dio attack

[midnight apex]

What’s your build?

[rapid storm]

||gilgamesh ||hangover kinda

[midnight apex]

What call?

[rapid storm]

w common zeus call

[midnight apex]

Yeah I’d take low tolerance too

Though 90% of the time smair is better

[rapid storm]

yeah if it was closer in levels id think about it more but im morefocused on hangover so probably still that unless zeus was higher levelled

and also now i have 2 useless duos to sell at end of stage, parting shot and whatever slows projectiles

dude why do i not use athena dash more this is amazing

[midnight apex]

Arguably best dash imo

[rapid storm]

and tdash obv

[midnight apex]

Probably second to Poseidon, but it’s my fav

[rapid storm]

i think i put athena above bc i suck at managing where everything goes with tdash, but like the damage is so much better on it especially in styx

so like idk

should ||styx || be censored?

[midnight apex]

Like, my favourite build is ME so divine dash goes hard

[midnight apex]

Doesn’t need to be, it’s before the final boss

[rapid storm]

alr, wasnt too sure

i need to try ME

ill do it after this run

[midnight apex]

It’s amazing, and good on ||Gilgamesh|| too!

Forgot the spoiler tag

[rapid storm]

yeah i saw that on that one website with all that info on like every build ever

[midnight apex]

Ik which one you’re talking about

[rapid storm]

yeah i just dont know what its called

also does athena dash give more i frames because of it deflecting or what bc i feel like im deflecting certain melee attacks but not too sure

oh wait does the athena boon that decreases trap damage decrease the 400% from that one ||condition ||so it would be 90% of 400 of would it just subtract 90% off so its 310% more

[midnight apex]

I’m unsure how it interacts

[rapid storm]

and im not risking it this run so i guess ill never know

god damn final boss dead when i was 1hp to i think actually all of his attacks real hp 30 tho

[stuck zenith]

third boss is too hard?

is there a weakpoint im not expoliting?

[rapid storm]

go after 1 and then the other, not at the same time if thats what youre doing

[stuck zenith]

i alrdy do that

the uh

||bull||

doesnt die

i hit it a thousand times

[rapid storm]

normally i go after minotaur first, and just leave theseus to do whatever tf he wants

[stuck zenith]

but i do too little damage

[rapid storm]

what kind of boons did you have, like the core ones that affect attack, special, cast, dash, and call even tho its not a core boon

and what weapon

[stuck zenith]

spear

[stuck zenith]

+2 active dashes from hermes

poseidon dash

and 60% attack?

something like that

[rapid storm]

what did you have affecting your attack and special, and if you remember, what hammers did you have, just what they did is fine if you cant remeber the names(i cant either ngl)

because those are pretty good so far, so it could be how youre going against minotaur, or the other boons you had

[stuck zenith]

i had the hammer that made my range like

longer

special i had hangover

and area of effect

i dont use special much on the boss because i feel it hinders my progress if you know what i mean

poseidon's call

i had a pretty good build but i guess im bad

[midnight apex]

It’s an alright build

[stuck zenith]

oh good morning

[midnight apex]

That boss (tbh the entire region) is the biggest step up in difficulty across the entire game imo

[midnight apex]

Mornin

[rapid storm]

yeah the hammer i think is what could be the part that made it annoying

[stuck zenith]

hmm?

[rapid storm]

100%

[stuck zenith]

i never died except to the bosses

[stuck zenith]

oh

well

i dont use charged attacks so its my only option i guess

[midnight apex]

Really?

[midnight apex]

Those kinda suck tbh

[stuck zenith]

yeah they just make u tank alot

except if u get that one

that makes it charge less and recover faster

that one is useable actually

[midnight apex]

They’re not considered very good to use consistently

[stuck zenith]

exactly

[rapid storm]

does depend on the other options there a lot tho, like the one that lets you have like 3 spears out per attack

[stuck zenith]

consistently is the word

[rapid storm]

idk what its called

[stuck zenith]

had it the previous try

[midnight apex]

Serrated point

[stuck zenith]

but how does that benefit me when i should abuse my spear's range

[rapid storm]

but i saw it shred em3 asterius and theseus

[rapid storm]

triple damage for less range is good because asterius' hitbox is pretty big

[midnight apex]

Tbh serrated point isn’t the best

[rapid storm]

also depending on the attack you need to dash through or away from enemies

[midnight apex]

Mostly cuz flurry jab exists

[stuck zenith]

i kinda just kite

[midnight apex]

Now THIS. THIS IS A HELL OF A DRUG.

[stuck zenith]

what does it do

[rapid storm]

spear is my least used weapon, im going off of 20s of a video and the very little time i have with it, im trying my best man

its faster attacks i think

[midnight apex]

Removes your spin, and it instead makes you attack WAY faster

[stuck zenith]

😍

[midnight apex]

It’s the best spear hammer imo

And to the opinion of most people too

[stuck zenith]

woah whats ur fav weapon then

[stuck zenith]

i mean i hate the spin attachs

give me any bfuf and remove them and ill take it

[midnight apex]

You can also just hold attack instead of spamming the button

[stuck zenith]

oh that doesnt sound so appealing anymore

or idk

[rapid storm]

fists fs, love them, just completed a run a second ago actually, very fun build, dionysus on attack and with low tolerance to stack more hangover that does way too much damage ngl

[midnight apex]

can
You don’t have to

[rapid storm]

youll still get the faster attacks i think

if you dont hold

[stuck zenith]

i hate fists i thought i'd love them but i just hate anything that puts me in my place to charge

i like just spamming my dash key

thats kinda what i do on bosses

makes me feel like im bad at the game but it works so

[rapid storm]

learning how to use dashes better will help greatly with that fight too, i started off dashing and still catch myself doing it sometimes but during asterius and theseus its better to time the dash strikes or dashes so you have them to dodge their attacks

[stuck zenith]

i mean i dodge their attacks

[midnight apex]

Awww cmon what’s wrong with them fists are my main

[rapid storm]

fr?

[stuck zenith]

yeah i do

its just that the archer guy

[rapid storm]

no not you i believe you

[stuck zenith]

hits me if i stop for 1 second

oh 😂

[midnight apex]

Yeah I main Demeter fists

[stuck zenith]

not enough mobility 🫸

[midnight apex]

They’re just as mobile as like every other weapon no?

[rapid storm]

yeah his attacks are really annoying, i dont like how the sign that shows when archers/theseus are gonna hit you, i think its dumb that the projectile doesnt hit you when it dissapears but a second after, also use the cover in the arena to block the shots, works really well

[stuck zenith]

it uses charged attacks

[midnight apex]

Wdym

[rapid storm]

hidden aspect even gives more mobility than all other weapons

[stuck zenith]

yeah i agree

[stuck zenith]

the fists dont like

hit instantly

u have to keep hitting

idk i tried them once

[midnight apex]

You press attack and they attack I don’t understand

Unless you’re doing the entire combo

[stuck zenith]

yeah but if u dont whats the point

[rapid storm]

fists are fast enough to where the like barely any wind up animation shouldnt affect if you hit an enemy or not

[midnight apex]

The combo doesn’t do the most damage, plus you should be dash striking anyways

[stuck zenith]

but spear is better in that case no?

[rapid storm]

yeah its basically dash striking with the occasional dash upper mixed in especially for 3/4 aspects

[midnight apex]

Spear hardly has a combo, and it also has a pause

[stuck zenith]

so fists have a combo?

[rapid storm]

crazy that im a fists main and cant answer that

[stuck zenith]

one second im choking

[rapid storm]

not really a combo, just 5 hits in front of you

i guess if you add dash strikes its an inf combo as long as the enemy has inf health

[midnight apex]

After those 5 hits you have to pause

[stuck zenith]

well

might try them later

but my 2 favs so far are bow and spear

shield is soooooo bad

[rapid storm]

shield is best for speedrunning

its pretty good, all the weapons are, just depends on how you want to play

[rapid storm]

i think

[midnight apex]

I hate the shield

[rapid storm]

i fw it but not heavily enough to play it a lot

just had a sword guy while in erebus tweak tf out

[stuck zenith]

im gonna go sleep

done of runs today

13 runs today

[stuck zenith]

I DID IT

HAHAHA

EASY

[midnight apex]

WAIT WHAT

How many attempts?!

The average is 35-40, and that felt much faster

[fallen mango]

how do you check if you got a diamond (hydra) with one specific weapon, can't remember wich one i miss lol

[steady turtle]

aspect of zeus goated tho, its so cheesy

[rapid storm]

if you have the ||pact of punishment|| unlocked it will show the highest ||heat|| youve beaten with that weapon, which means youve gotten the rewards from all the previous ones too, youd just have to check it with all weapons

[lime wigeon]

i heard shield slander and came running

I 🫶 SHIELD

[midnight apex]

Oh i completely acknowledge its probably the best weapon in the game

Holds the speed record, and was the first weapon to clear 64 ||heat|| unmodded

Great safety, damage and everything

I just hate it

I just despise using it

The only build I could tolerate was effing pulverizing blow aspect of Zagreus

[lime wigeon]

i understand

....

swearing is banned here?

i just said the s word 😭

okay well good to know

[midnight apex]

Indeed

[lime wigeon]

anyways, yeah. i have a friend who plays with bow

and is really good bc he's been playing a lot longer than me + hades is my first game

so when i unlocked bow i was hyped bc he glazed it. and i HATED it

[midnight apex]

Were you dash striking

[lime wigeon]

i can't play with bow or spear even gun

[midnight apex]

(WOW you hate range)

[lime wigeon]

to be fair, i was still early in the game when i unlocked it. i'll have to try it again

[midnight apex]

The number one leading cause of bow dissatisfaction in new players is not dash striking enough

[lime wigeon]

when i started out i couldn't move properly half the time bc i didn't know how to use the controls 😭 shield saved me bc i could stand there while getting attacked and then release, dealing damage and taking none

i still love it

[lime wigeon]

noted

i also hate spear and gun idk why

shield, fists, sword are good for me

oh and the shield upgrade that turns ur bull rush into a piercing shot?

literally broken. u take 0 damage and deal insane amounts

i beat ||hades (as in the boss fight)|| on my first try with it. that upgrade counts as an attack and i had a ton of attack boons

on base it gives 80 damage. i was dealing so much damage

[midnight apex]

That’s a spoiler

And yeah I’m aware of charged shot, it’s great

But it’s just not the most fun for me

[somber frigate]

It’s lowkey worth the glaze but it sucks if you play it wrong

[rapid storm]

yeah its pretty fun, more fun than how other games do ranged characters in the same genre of games, like with the perfect shot kinda stuff

[lime wigeon]

o right, so sorry

[lime wigeon]

when i started hades i sucked so bad bc i had never played video games before. i was basically panic spamming buttons and that was it. shield worked wonderfully for me. i will try bow again soon

[stuck zenith]

3

Tbh i had a super good build

[midnight apex]

3 attempts
Really

[stuck zenith]

I had charon's keep sake

Which made full hp

175 hp

[midnight apex]

In total you did 3 attempts

To beat the boss

[stuck zenith]

Yup

[midnight apex]

Didn’t you say you did 13 attempts on the first day?

[stuck zenith]

No total

Like total escapes

I did all the 3 bosses yesterday

[midnight apex]

#h1-for-new-players message

[midnight apex]

Oh

I meant total runs

Or rather total attempts

To beat it for the first time

[stuck zenith]

Oh my bad then

Yeah i beat it in 13 then

3 for the 2 guys

Like 9 for the second boss (idk how)

[midnight apex]

That’s like a third of the average, good job!

[stuck zenith]

And 1 for first boss

[stuck zenith]

Thankss

I had a rly good build tho

I was carried

Had an extra dash and super high dash strike and special damage

I also learned how to dodge the minotaur well so

[midnight apex]

I beat it in 27 I believe

Or 25

[stuck zenith]

I feel hades bosses

Rely on ur movement

Rather than dodging the boss

I kited so well that i didnt think about their moveset

[lime wigeon]

it took me 59 attempts lol

[midnight apex]

I’ve seen from 9 to 70s

[stuck zenith]

I must have had a rly good build then

[midnight apex]

Nah you just seem to have gotten used to the game faster

[stuck zenith]

I dont think so

Second boss took me like what

5-6 tries

and its easy

[midnight apex]

Even with good builds you’re probably one of, what, 5 I’ve met who’ve done it faster than 15

If that

[stuck zenith]

Wow okay

That makes me happy 😂

[midnight apex]

Still faster than average

[midnight apex]

Be proud! It’s quite impressive.

[stuck zenith]

Wait

I have to beat them every time???????????

Ugh

So if i die at final boss

I have to start from point zero

That's crazy

[midnight apex]

Well it’s a roguelite

What did you expect

[stuck zenith]

Idk like

Oh u have escaped underworld

Now its time for you to go to the big house of hades

[midnight apex]

He literally ||straight up dies||

[stuck zenith]

Boom

New checkpoint

[midnight apex]

It’s a roguelite

[stuck zenith]

Hmm?

[stuck zenith]

I know it is 😂

Just uh yapping

[midnight apex]

Then idk what you expect lol

[stuck zenith]

I dont expect im just you know

Ranting? 😂

[midnight apex]

Disappointed?

[stuck zenith]

Not really

Just thinking of all the runs i have to go through again

To reach this point

[midnight apex]

Well after 10 wins you reach the credits for the game

[stuck zenith]

wait wait

10 wins?

[midnight apex]

And then you’ve completed the tutorial

[stuck zenith]

wait wait wait

[midnight apex]

Yes. Why?

[stuck zenith]

i have to reach the final boss

10 times

and win?

[midnight apex]

You have to beat them. 10 times

Yes why?

[stuck zenith]

I mean

Isnt that like

Crazy or am i hallucinating

[midnight apex]

Crazy hard or crazy easy

-# just messing with you btw

[stuck zenith]

Well

[midnight apex]

Well, credits IS 10 wins

[stuck zenith]

U said u did it in 26 attempts?

[midnight apex]

But it’s not easy

[stuck zenith]

Won 10 times?

[midnight apex]

I did my first win then

Not the credits

[stuck zenith]

Oh

I think you misinterpreted my words

I didnt get my first win

I only beat elysium's boss in 13 attempts

[midnight apex]

OH

[stuck zenith]

That's why i said 3

Not 13

[midnight apex]

How many runs did you take to win? Have you won yet?

[stuck zenith]

I havent won yet

[midnight apex]

3 what?

[stuck zenith]

3 attempts to beat those guys

[midnight apex]

Oh attemptsss

Well youre still above average

[stuck zenith]

Im currently in the 13th attempt

Like actually in it

I reached

The temple of styx? is the name?

[midnight apex]

Yes

[stuck zenith]

I see a big charon shop to my left

Right*
And 5 paths to my left

[midnight apex]

You’re on track to get a win in sub 20

[stuck zenith]

Why is everything more expensive

[midnight apex]

So that’s still above average

[midnight apex]

They’re higher quality

[stuck zenith]

I have 8 coins xD

[midnight apex]

Oof

[stuck zenith]

Hmm

Ill let you choose

[midnight apex]

What’s your build rn?

[stuck zenith]

Do i go ares or aphrodite or power up or coins (buffed enmies) or health (buffed enemies)

[stuck zenith]

I sent it in dms

[rapid storm]

i heard, but idk if its true that going for either both miniboss chambers in styx has a higher chance at getting the satyr sack(used to get past cerberus) than going for 2 non miniboss ones but idk if its true

its also never on the first chamber and most likely on the 2nd chamber at around 50% chance there, its less likely to get it the more chambers you have to do before it, and i believe having to go through all 6 chambers is like a 2% chance or something

[rose plume]

Is there a good way to avoid the chariot's attacks in elysium? I always struggle to dodge their attacks and it's so frustrating having to take like 20 damage every time I see them

[stuck zenith]

um

i dont wanna be that guy

but spam dodge?

i never got hit by them i think

[rose plume]

I will spam harder next time

[dusty vault]

small ones you can lead them into walls to make them self explode

for big ones is kinda run around the walls till they stop
if they are unarmored you can just attack them freely, if they are armored you def wanna wait till they chill/have enough dps to burst the armor first

[rose plume]

The worst variant is ||the one summoned by hades during his first phase ||

[lime wigeon]

and the prices are outrageous 🙄 /j

[lime wigeon]

good idea

[dusty vault]

Oh yeah for those the "get armor shredding" applies even more

[somber frigate]

||zag can’t survive outside of the underworld||

[covert tinsel]

Who do I give my first|| nectar|| too?

[midnight apex]

You don’t need to censor that dw, and i recommend to your favourite Olympian

[lime wigeon]

hm. well there are a lot of great options. cerberus and ||skelly (if u don't know who this is dwai)|| give good stuff for early play throughs. ik i was reliant on good boy's gift when i was playing lol.

if u want to know what cerberus's thing is it's a ||old spiked collar. adds to ur health bar. like 25 at first i think and then with upgrades is like 50 so u can start runs with double health||

as for ||skelly, he gives u a tooth. it gives u one extra death defiance||

but yeah, giving to a god is good too, especially if u already have ideas for builds and stuff

but if ur kinda just playing "mess around and find out" like i did at first, having health is what's imp

up to you, happy. nectar gifting!

[covert tinsel]

How do I gift the Olympians?
||Unless escaping is hell is..Just the tutorial for the game...?||

[somber frigate]

When you find their boons

[covert tinsel]

Cus would love to give it to ares
My boy gets misrepresented a LOT

[somber frigate]

you can give them nectar before you pick it up once per run

[lime wigeon]

get a boon and u get an option to press g

gifts them nectar

[covert tinsel]

Thanks for the info!!

[somber frigate]

ok so like yes and no? Hades is a roguelite if you catch my drift ||so it’s more like escaping is the first time of many that you’ll do||

[covert tinsel]

And I saw somewhere that for a weapon a certain god is generally good
Is there a list for smthg like that?

[lime wigeon]

fyi || most god's keepsakes just give u the ability to summon them. no other benefits.|| based on how u play, u may use it a lot or not. i do not use my god's keepsakes. maybe i should start doing it more but as of now, nope

[lime wigeon]

ohhh that's different

[covert tinsel]

I see

[lime wigeon]

that's upgrades i think?

upgrades are different

[somber frigate]

It’s more like certain gods have good builds with different weapons rather than weapons being good for gods

[lime wigeon]

u can't get them via nectar

[covert tinsel]

Yeah I pinged u accidentally mb

[lime wigeon]

have u defeated the first boss yet?

[somber frigate]

That isn’t correct

[lime wigeon]

oh im so sorry. what did i mess up?

[covert tinsel]

Nah
I just started and stopped after him getting to know his real mom cutscene

[somber frigate]

they also give you increased rarity chance for every boon you take from that god while they’re equipped, and the forcing them to summon is worth so much more than that

[covert tinsel]

Oh nice

[lime wigeon]

ah i see. well u will find out abt upgrades after u beat that first boss i think

[lime wigeon]

oh yes, i completely forgot abt this part sorry

[covert tinsel]

Alr I'll play a bit more and ask later ig
Thanks tho!

[lime wigeon]

ofc! have fun :D

[somber frigate]

putting a god into your god pool guarantees they’re going to be a part of your build since the god pool can easily just lock them out if you aren’t using god keepsakes to get your build together

[lime wigeon]

i kinda do just mess around most of the time so i haven't used the god keepsakes much

[somber frigate]

before you’ve taken boons from 4 regular olympian gods (aka anyone but Hermes and Chaos) the game will randomly generate the boons from any of the gods available (aside from Hermes and Chaos since they generate seperately). Then once you’ve taken boons from those 4, it narrows down the gods you can find to just those 4.

[lime wigeon]

also bc all the other ones seem a lot more useful in my head

but i should start planning more. maybe try ares bc i won with his doom effect

well

[somber frigate]

They’re pretty much the most useful keepsakes in game for tartarus (and asphodel)

[lime wigeon]

hm will keep in mind then

[elfin sky]

spear sword or bow

[lime wigeon]

sheild /j

but out of the options

sword

[elfin sky]

I use spear right now but on my next run I try sword

[lime wigeon]

sounds good. exprimenting is good

[eager hill]

Im struggling for megaera

Any tips?

[median sphinx]

• dash a lot but with caution, it gives you a short time of invincibility but it can also send it towards meg
• obtain greater reflex on your mirror if you can for two dashes
• look for telegraphing of attacks, such as charging of the whip, and the circles on the ground
• your special often can strike down the volley from meg
• place a boon in your attack/special slot for a reliable damage source to shorten the fight

[eager hill]

Ok thx for info

[lime wigeon]

i have smth to add but it depends on what weapon ur using at the moment

[eager hill]

Stygian blade

[lime wigeon]

oh then just stick to those tips for now yeah

[dire orchid]

When you are at the mirror of Knight, and you swap the talents from red to green, does the game punish you for that?

I’m more interested in faded persuasion than faded authority

[fresh bridge]

nope those are just the alt versions to allow for more diversity there is no punishment for swapping from purple to green

[midnight apex]

The game doesn’t punish you except for the fact you need to upgrade the other ones too

Which isn’t a punishment really

I use the green side of the mirror a fair bit

[dire orchid]

The green makes me feel like they make the game easier…

[fresh bridge]

a lot of them are better than the purple yeah

[dull egret]

Just got hades for the first time after looking at it for ages, it feels amazing and im loving the accuracy to source material (especially the coin in skelly's mouth), does anyone have any info/tips i should know?

[stuck zenith]

play

thats my tip to you

i learned by playing

there is no tutorial

[fresh bridge]

like the number or like, what it signifies? also please spoiler ||heat||

[stuck zenith]

||i just beat hades so i wanted to understand what's considered the challenge? i remember seeing the number 32 alot||

[fresh bridge]

||the max heat is 64, the game has an ingame statue for beating 32 heat and is for the majority of players considered the highest they'll go, a total of 6 players that i can think atm have beaten max heat whether that be done playing with the SRC modpack or done unmodded||

[stuck zenith]

i see thanks

[dire orchid]

Feeling really overwhelmed by this game. If I get lucky with the fists I can make it to the final boss, I got to him one time. I can’t get to him with any other weapons, and now I’m realizing that there’s all the green options for the mirror and I have no idea what works best. And I haven’t used tighten blood on any of my weapons yet I’m just not sure where to go, I’m getting good, particularly with the fist, but it still feels like I’m trying to boil the ocean Here

[rapid storm]

fists are great, it could be a lot of things that are restricting you from beating the final boss, could you tell me what kind of build you typically go for?

Also about the mirror, the 1st option could go either way, the next 3 are mostly the purple side(apart from a few certain things either later in the game or for certain builds) and then the next few are probably also purple, its definitely a lot, but it gets less confusing later

[covert tinsel]

What stuff should I equip in the mirror?
I have 6 unlocked

And besides death defiance
Everything is maxed

And haven't touched the alt stuff

[lime wigeon]

u should max death defiance imo

[midnight apex]

Yeah but it’s expensive as hell so it’ll take a bit

[lime wigeon]

true

[midnight apex]

#h1-for-new-players message

^mirror guide

[lime wigeon]

u should unlock more mirror stuff

[lime wigeon]

oo that vid is in my watch later might as well watch now lol

[covert tinsel]

Tysm!

[midnight apex]

Np

[covert tinsel]

Finally beat the first boss
And ofc entirety of tartarus was a tutorial

So my suspicion ended being right...

[midnight apex]

Congrats!

[covert tinsel]

I did
Now I'm collecting keys for the 20 one
I have 6 weapons atm (idk if we get more)

[midnight apex]

6 isn’t that much

[covert tinsel]

She beat the hell out of me 6 times

[midnight apex]

Oh have you gotten aspects yet?

[covert tinsel]

Well the most problematic thing for me was the movement system

I'm a pc player and this was trippy asl

[midnight apex]

Once you master Hades’ movements, you’re almost invincible

[covert tinsel]

Unlocked the Achilles one for spear and upgraded the basic on for the same

[midnight apex]

Thing is, that’s easier said that done

[covert tinsel]

True

[midnight apex]

AMAZING choice

Love Aspect of Achilles

[covert tinsel]

Yeah dash AND damaging is crazy thh

And that's a long ass dash too

[midnight apex]

I recommend continuing to upgrade the aspect over the base spear

[covert tinsel]

And u can just chose not to do it and basic attack

[covert tinsel]

Oh alr

[midnight apex]

It also increase cast damage

[covert tinsel]

I haven't been using casts much tbh
Maybe cus it's the shift key atm for me

Should prolly change that

[midnight apex]

Casts are rlly fun if you know how to use them

[covert tinsel]

I'll try to do it more

[lime wigeon]

yippee!! unlocking those weapons must have been fun. which one do u like most?

[lime wigeon]

congrats!!!

[covert tinsel]

Spear but the gauntlets with the range upgrade are very close

[dire orchid]

i'm not quite clear on what's better to take from eurydice. ambrosia delight or pom porridge, how do you all decide?

[rapid storm]

it depends, if you already have your main core of your build, one of the first 2 options(because you cant guarentee what you get from the next few boons for the rarity upgrade, if the stuff you have isnt the main part, or you have too much to guarentee youll upgrade at least 1 thing you want, id go with the next 3 boons higher rarity, someone else probably has a better shorter reason but this is mine

[dire orchid]

my question being out of the first tywo options what's better?

[rapid storm]

depends on what youre trying to upgrade, if you have an artemis boon youre trying to upgrade, the rarity one, artemis doesnt get a good enough buff to use a pom on it like ever(except maybe pressure points, idk tho) id guess most of the time the pom one tho, you upgrade more things(i think) and the bonus from poms isnt available on all things so it will narrow the upgrade choices to just the few things that youre probably trying to upgrade

[dusty vault]

generally refreshing nectar

the rarity boost will help for better hermes, duo/legendary odds, chaos.

[rapid storm]

oh yeah forgot about that part too

[dusty vault]

poms/+2 rarity are generally taken in certain late game context

[dire orchid]

man i odn't even touch chaos

still trying to beat the game for the first time

made it to the final boss twice, but wasn't close when i got there....only weapon i can do it with is fists. feel like i'm doing somrthing wrong, i'm investing in mirror upgrades like crazy (haven't done the green ones yet)\

no idea how to build out and which to make green vs. purple in the mirror...to say nothing of wepon upgrades which i haven't touched.

[dusty vault]

short version for builds (boons wise)
low, fast dmg weapons like fists prefer boons like zeus attack which add an extra effect to each hit.
higher but slower dmg weapons prefer boons like aphrodite that add % to the attack.

do you have the codex upgrade for the boon list yet?

re: mirror there's a pinned guide (use the text one) for it

[dire orchid]

Yeah sure, I think it’s a lack of defense. I usually go for the divine Dash first, I also like status effects overtime. I’ve also pumped a lot of darkness into the extra damage for when enemies are afflicted by two or more status, but I’m not sure that’s paying off. I’m not so confident that works very well with lightning because you still need to get the jolted status, and I’m not quite sure how that affect compounds with doom because doom is just a one time hit so there’s not a very big window for the added damage bonus for two or more status elements. Typically I’ve been going for some Athena power ups, and then poison from wine and some sort of second status ailment

I’ve made it to the final boss twice, but with One or little death defiance remaining.

I’ve invested no tight in blood so far, and I’m not quite sure what my second best weapon is, possibly shield or spear

I also have not experimented with the green side of the mirror at all. I’m saving up my darkness so I can unlock faded persuasion and get more favorable boons

I also think my style might be too offensive. Maybe I’m trying to go too fast. But a rush down is the only thing that can get me through,

[dusty vault]

Do you know how the dash iframes work?

Also for something like fists you can just do zeus attack start then use athena's keepsake in asphodel for her dash

(in general, using god keepsakes in the first two regions is super strong)

[dire orchid]

I always use keepsakes for the first two, usually Athena then Dionysus or Ares

I have no idea what the frames are that you are referencing

[dusty vault]

Dashing makes you fully invincible for its duration. But doing any sort of attack/other moves will remove the iframes of the dash

So if you need to dodge an attack you must not be attacking during the dash

[dire orchid]

OK that’s interesting, because Dash strike with fists is my primary police style with that build

Is the double status ailment bonus buff worth it? How does that factory in with lightning and doom?

[sweet brook]

priv status isn't worth it lol

inconsistent 40% compared to consistent 25% on the other side of the mirror

[dire orchid]

What’s the other side? Also, you are always invincible from everything while dashing as long as the animation is not interrupted by something else?

[sweet brook]

yeah

the other side is family favorites

you get 5% more damage for each unique god you have, not including chaos

generally over the run, you get 4 different gods and hermes so that's 25%

[dire orchid]

OK good to know, I have all the abilities unlocked on the mirror, I just haven’t invested in all of them yet. I’ve done pretty well with the purple ones as far as darkness investments, but what else should I look into? I’ve barely played it all with the green

[sweet brook]

there's a mirror guide pinned here iirc

so you can check that out and read through everything

[dire orchid]

I will check that out

What about weapon upgrades for the fist? I have five tighten blood, I have not beaten the first boss with the bow yet, I’m not quite sure how to use that weapon at all I’ll get to that later. Should I be investing tight this early? This are definitely my favorite lesson, but if I only get six tighten blood for the whole game, I might be more conservative in how I spend it

Sorry for typos I’m dictating and multitasking

Titan*

[sweet brook]

you get a lot more later once you clear a run lmao

so just upgrade what you feel like upgrading

demeter aspect is by far the best aspect for fists if you want to invest in that

[dire orchid]

Ok

What about the magnetic special?

[sweet brook]

more gimmicky than useful

[dire orchid]

Trying to find the pinned mirror guide in text form but I don’t see it

@viscid notch is that text mirror guide still available? I can’t find it in the pins

[merry zinc]

there's one in #h1-high-heat-strategies

[viscid notch]

its the first pin

[dusty vault]

#h1-for-new-players message

[dire orchid]

Thanks all

Link wasn’t working for me at first

The mirror guide looks good, the only place I’m unsure is God’s pride versus God’s legacy. I would assume God’s legacy is if you were looking for very specific things

[dire orchid]

The butterfly keepsake, is there a cap to how much it can stack? Is the damage buff lost when you switch keepsakes?

[dusty vault]

no and yes

[dusty vault]

the thing is, duos odds are generally quite good already and with planning getting them without legacy is not an issue

god's pride effect for hermes more than anything is so worth

(stuff like yarn of ariadne/refreshing nectar/chaos's favor boon all increases duo odds by +10%)

[dusty vault]

(and in general butterfly is less worth cuz it also kills the consistency of using other keepsakes/the weapons that are better at no hitting benefit a lot less from the buff)

[tacit needle]

I feel like i keep button mashing, i have a decent amount of time in the game. 18 runs, and have cleared elysium once, but i feel like i keep button mashing, cuz it works better than any other metod, but i can't really stop, any tips?

Like how to get better at tactically attacking/combos

[rapid storm]

it took me a bit to stop mashing dash and attack too, i had to keep checking myself to stop doing it, idk what will help you but id say just keep paying attention to yourself and if youre spamming or not, also what weapon are you using because that can help with knowing what to do

[static ibex]

how do i use titan blood?

[somber frigate]

Unlock all weapons, then die in a run for the house of Hades to update

then you’ll unlock the feature

[static ibex]

oh im missing 1 of them, thank you

[terse coyote]

I'm on my 26th run and I haven't been able to give Zeus nectar for 10 runs, I finally started using my nectar around my 20th run but Zeus refuses to show up or when he does it's in the store where I can't gift him. have I softlocked myself out of getting Zeus boons?

[midnight apex]

Equip the Zeus keepsake

It guarantees you see him

[terse coyote]

that's the problem, I don't have his keepsake yet

[midnight apex]

You haven’t given him a single nectar?

[terse coyote]

not yet cause he doesn't show up anymore

[terse coyote]

everytime I've seen him "recently" he's been in the store where you can't gift it to him

[midnight apex]

Hmm. Try not starting with a god keepsake and just doing runs

[terse coyote]

I'll give it another try but I've attempted without any keepsakes and I even got the reroll everything mod to see if I could at least summon him but he just doesn't showup

[midnight apex]

I don’t remember a way to soft lock a god out

[covert tinsel]

So Meg door didn't show titan blood this time and showed me darkness

And I lost this time

So.. does it change every time?

Or it changed cus instead of going thru charons shop
I went for the other door?

Cus it showed titan blood every time before this and I went for shop before

[lime wigeon]

okay so

once u beat her once with a weapon

u collect the blood and after u always will collect darkness

to get more blood, beat her with another weapon

or for later game || use pact of punishment to increase heat ||

but yeah, one blood per weapon

[covert tinsel]

Oh alr

Oh..

Now that dialogue makes sense

It was confusing for me for no reason

[covert tinsel]

I accidentally sold one my titan bloods...

Can I get enough to upgrade all weapons to max still?

[dusty vault]

Yeah

All resource are infinite through other methods

(trading at the lounge/fishing/charon at last shop)

In fact, even with all sources of blood obtained, you still need fishing or trading to max all

[dire orchid]

So the chaos gates, what’s the point of them? Just to make things more challenging and fun?

[rapid storm]

makes you work more for better rewards basically, get a downside for a bit but a permanent upside for the rest of the run

[gleaming shard]

Escaped successfully multiple times. Can't believe I am saying this. Hades is indeed king of rougelikes.

[rapid storm]

nice, what weapon did you use for them

[spiral jackal]

Yes it is

[dire orchid]

Finally beat it!!!!

Daedalus upgrade that converts the last weapon to automatic combined with seeking from Artemis

[gleaming shard]

Aspect of Zeus and Eris Rail mostly

[dire orchid]

Underneath my keepsake, when I have it equipped, there is a number one and a yellow circular arrow, what does that mean?

[narrow ice]

What Keepsake are you using?

[dire orchid]

Artemis

[narrow ice]

It means that the next boon you receive is guaranteed from Artemis and then stops

[dire orchid]

Ahhhh ok

And what about when that number is not there at all?

[narrow ice]

It's time is up surely

You received your boon from Artemis now all it does is give the extra 10% for a rare boon

[somber frigate]

Any time a keepsake has one of those, it’s to indicate uses left/ whether or not it’s still active

Two have a timer

[rapid storm]

oh yeah i forgot about those 2

[somber frigate]

It’s there until you take a boon from Artemis, because it’ll keep forcing her more if you avoid her, then go away when you’ve taken a boon from her

[cunning oak]

||how do I get the 2 hidden infernal arms?||

[midnight apex]

Unlock the other 4

Then just do a few runs with all of them (can’t remember if it’s based around unlocking them or using them, but you should try them out anyway)

Iirc it’s either at least one run with each weapon or just unlocking them all

[dusty vault]

Is just a run after you unlock the first 4 for the 5th, then another after 5th for 6th

[midnight apex]

Aight thanks

[dire orchid]

What are some of the best bang for your buck defense or damage medication boons/upgrades?

I’m getting better at the game but so far I’ve only beaten it one time with one weapon. I think it’s because I am unintentionally building class cannons every time

I’m curious where your investment go the furthest as far as survivability traits

[midnight apex]

You can’t go wrong with Divine dash

[dusty vault]

Dmg reduction wise is often weak (aphro) or sturdy (hermes's hyper sprint/some hammers)

Both offer 30% dmg reduction, with aphro having the only boon that increases this amount additively. (Broken resolve)

Greater dodge/second wind from hermes both work nicely (dodge chance is additive)

And quick recovery is surprisingly decent at high rarity?

Other stuff are really meh

Hyper sprint also has the giant benefit of opening rush delivery which can add a lot of dmg

[covert tinsel]

Can you get more titan blood besides 6 from megaera before the asphodel boss?

[dusty vault]

Only through the broker at the lounge (you would have to trade up resources all the way to ambrosia for 1 blood or wait for the occasional 15 keys for 1 blood trade)

There are some prophecies that grant blood but can't do them with just the first 2 biomes

How do I get more blood

• beating the first boss for the first time with a weapon will net you one blood.
• final boss drops another + after that you unlock the best way to farm blood.
  other sources:
  trading for it at the lounge:
• 1 ambrosia for 1 T.blood is always there.
• 15 keys for 1 blood which is super good
• list of minor prophecies.
• Charon may sell one blood for 1200 gold at the last area shop

[covert tinsel]

Then I'll keep this for now ig
There was 200 gemstone trade that's why I asked
Thanks btw

[dusty vault]

Np

Also yeah no that trade stinks lol

[covert tinsel]

I don't wanna farm for the stuff that the architect has

Like the fountain upgrades and such

😭

[dusty vault]

If you have spare gold remember to buy them from charon

Or troves

[covert tinsel]

When I buy them, I'm like a couple keys away from unlocking stuff and I just do it...

But, yeah I'll go posiden keepsake for increasing rewards for it ig

But haven't seen them on charons shop yet

[dire orchid]

@dusty vault are you saying Aphrodite’s boons are worth it?

I rarely use them, and charm is almost never inflicted

[dusty vault]

Aphrodite has the highest % of the boon givers so for high base dmg weapons yeah she's worth it

Also weak ≠ charm

Weak is afflicted with her standard boons and make those enemies do 30% less dmg

Charm is the effect from her call/legendary

[somber frigate]

Combining Weak and Hyper Sprint is 51% damage reduction

You are thus taking less then half the damage

[tulip dove]

so how many times do i have to beat the final boss

already beat em once with twin fists

[midnight apex]

10

[tulip dove]

ok cool not bad

[midnight apex]

To finish the main story

10

After that… depends on what you want to do

[tulip dove]

explain...

[midnight apex]

You can reach the epilogue, speedrun the game, or do smt else that’s a spoiler

You can max out relations, upgrade every keepsake, beat the game blindfolded, beat it on your first time on a fresh file, speedrun that

There’s a lot of things you can choose to do

[midnight apex]

So yeah, the amount of times you want to beat the game is up to you

[midnight apex]

Also censor that name it’s a spoiler

[tulip dove]

oh ok

[midnight apex]

You know how?

That works

[tulip dove]

nah

il just change it

[midnight apex]

For future reference it’s || message | (finish the second | )

[tulip dove]

how do i reach the epilouge tho

[tulip dove]

????

oh ok

btw is || giligamesh ||

[midnight apex]

||Max our relations with a bunch of olympians|| then progress more with the story

[tulip dove]

the strongest build

in the game

[midnight apex]

Also need to be censored

[midnight apex]

And definitely not

Two ||

[tulip dove]

which is it then

[midnight apex]

Like, based on statistics or?

Cuz this game is very well balanced

[tulip dove]

everything

[midnight apex]

For example, I hate using that build

[tulip dove]

i personally love lifesteal

but i die alot

when using it

cuz low hp

and big boss do big dmg

is lifesteal smt i need to censor too ;-;

[midnight apex]

I’d say the hidden aspect of shield

[midnight apex]

Nah

[tulip dove]

mannn thats so boring tho but fair

fist is deffo more fun

[midnight apex]

Definitely agreed, I’m also a fists main

[tulip dove]

huh

did u not say

u hate using that build tho

with ares and athena and shi

[elfin sky]

which infernal arm is the best

[midnight apex]

Oh no, I’m talking about the shield build

[elfin sky]

I use the fists

[midnight apex]

Merciful End is my fav build

[midnight apex]

Goated choice

[tulip dove]

like put up ur hands type shi

[midnight apex]

Statistically the shield has accomplished the most, but really all of them are really really close

[midnight apex]

I don’t need weapons, catch these hands

[tulip dove]

which daedalus hammer upgrade is ur fav

[midnight apex]

Breaching cross EASILY

[tulip dove]

ngl i wish they gave lifesteal to fists

[tulip dove]

i dont use spear ngl

[midnight apex]

They do? It’s kinda eh but there’s a hammer that if you kill with a special it heals

[elfin sky]

which aspect should I get

for the fists

[tulip dove]

or is that a bow

[midnight apex]

That’s a fists hammer

[midnight apex]

Aspect of Demeter is my recommendation

[tulip dove]

special

is smt i never use

on any of my weapons

i jst dash strike

[midnight apex]

Well that’s concerning for some weapons

[tulip dove]

over

and over

and over

[elfin sky]

but it takes so long to charge

12 strikes is so much

[tulip dove]

why not the final one

[midnight apex]

You can phase Lernie if you build it right

[tulip dove]

it legit gives them a status effect no

[midnight apex]

Less damaged less attack speed worse dash strikes
Why use it

[tulip dove]

with like ur dash strike or smt

[tulip dove]

cuz status

[midnight apex]

It’s eh

Just eh

[tulip dove]

u just put on doom

[midnight apex]

You can do that with aspect of Demeter

[tulip dove]

how?

u cant put status with just ur fists

on them

[midnight apex]

Yes you can

What?

[tulip dove]

really?

[midnight apex]

Just get doom on your strike

[tulip dove]

guess i didnt read it well enough

bro

[midnight apex]

Or Dionysus

Or really anyone

[tulip dove]

i meant

double

two statuses activate privellged status no

[midnight apex]

The mirror upgrade

I’m aware

[elfin sky]

how to charge the cutter quicker

[tulip dove]

its just free dmg-

[tulip dove]

dont go for talos ngl

just use the base fist

[midnight apex]

Punch

[tulip dove]

the dodge chance is really fun

especially if u put blood into it

[midnight apex]

There is no damage benefit if base fists over Demeter, and they’re talking about Demeter btw

Not talos

[tulip dove]

ohhhh

[midnight apex]

You can just get a call with a status effect

[tulip dove]

i personally

just get exposed

on athena

[midnight apex]

The super cutter SHREDS so it’s worth

[midnight apex]

That also works

[tulip dove]

bruh

i use call for like artemis

and zeus

[midnight apex]

Good call

[midnight apex]

Just aight

Very average

Zeus and Dio have amazing calls

[tulip dove]

the crit be so funny tho

[tulip dove]

dio really?

[midnight apex]

The crit do be funny

Yup

Sorry I gtg for a lil bit, ping me with any questions and I’ll answer them

[elfin sky]

is the throw fist good

[tulip dove]

how do i obtain || gilgamesh||

[elfin sky]

||Reveal the Aspect of Gilgamesh by meeting the following requirements:

Reveal the Aspect of Guan Yu (does not need to be unlocked with Titan Blood}
Have a total of 5 Titan Blood or more invested into Fist aspects
If you have not previously received the following dialogue from Asterius (in his chamber before the fight with Theseus), fight him with the Fists equipped until you do:||

[tulip dove]

why do i need to get the spear

version

[midnight apex]

Just cuz

[elfin sky]

bbecause

[midnight apex]

You need to unlock it first before every other one

[midnight apex]

Throw fist? Talos? That one hammer?

[tulip dove]

srsly???

thats so ass

[midnight apex]

Too bad

Suffer like the rest of us in rng hell

[tulip dove]

i dont even like spear ;-;

[elfin sky]

no

daeldues

[midnight apex]

Which one? The ranged special?

[elfin sky]

yers

[midnight apex]

Great with demeter

Convenient with everything else, but not anything exceptional

[tulip dove]

what do i need to get

for merciful end again

[midnight apex]

Doom attack, Athena special

Or vice versa, but you don’t want that

Then grab Athena dash and impending doom and you’re set

Mostly Athena dash

[tulip dove]

frick

i thought it was athena dash with ares special

[midnight apex]

It’s struck for a reason

[elfin sky]

what is rarest bon

[midnight apex]

Respectfully, ew. I shudder to imagine that

[tulip dove]

lol

no wonder ive never gotten it

[midnight apex]

Either bad news or greater recall

[elfin sky]

I think I have gotten bad news once

[midnight apex]

Well, there’s also the chaos legendary that gives you a death defiance

If you count that

[elfin sky]

whihc one

kiss of styx?

[tulip dove]

what charecters

are romancable

[midnight apex]

Can’t remember

[midnight apex]

Spoilers

[tulip dove]

just tell me then

[midnight apex]

||Thanatos||

[tulip dove]

bro

i already said their name