#h1-for-new-players

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midnight apex
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There are 4 regions if that’s what you mean

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Yes

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After 10 clears there’s the credits

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But tbh that’s just the beginning

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How far have you gotten into the game?

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midnight apex
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Then you’ve got a while till ur done

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Enjoy it, it’s probably one of the best games out there

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And feel free to ask for help if you need anything!

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the one that looks like a shield

midnight apex
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Yes, we call that the shield

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Or Aegis

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what should i get

midnight apex
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What playstyle do you like?

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i have enough for the one with 4 keys and 3 keys

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if i buy it from the shopp guy

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midnight apex
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Describe what the weapon to me

midnight apex
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Grab shield

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alr

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ill get it then ty

midnight apex
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The sword is the closest range weapon there, but you have it.
The spear is mid ranged melee.
The shield has a throw but is still a melee weapon
The bow is ranged
That’s all I can say for now

vital socket
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am i making progress

midnight apex
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Yes

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is shield op

midnight apex
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It’s the best weapon, but I kinda hate it personally

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oh

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ok i just tested it

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its actually pretty good

midnight apex
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Yeah a lot of people like it, I just can’t utilise it well for some reason

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Which is odd, cuz I have hundreds of hours into the game, and over 300 attempts

vital socket
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whats better h1 or h2

humble moss
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guys how do you beat theseus and minotaur

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I got there like 5 times and died each time

midnight apex
vital socket
humble moss
midnight apex
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I’d definitely recommend h1 first

humble moss
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I only have 100 hp im at charon's shop before theseus do I buy minotaur heart or zeus boon

midnight apex
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Zeus boon

humble moss
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wont it make me replace

midnight apex
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No

humble moss
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can I send ss

midnight apex
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Did you take it?

humble moss
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not yet

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the boon I mean

midnight apex
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Take static discharge, the call, double strike or billowing call in that order if you do

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Wait what weapon

humble moss
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wait I took the boon zeus said dialogue then athena also said something

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guns

midnight apex
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YO LIGHTNING PHALANX

humble moss
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ITS THERE

midnight apex
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what’s the other options?

humble moss
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clouded judgement lightning phalanx or static discharge

midnight apex
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Take static discharge

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It’s better

humble moss
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I don't have any lightning effects tho

midnight apex
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Heh

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You can’t be offered static discharge without one

humble moss
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oh wait its my call

midnight apex
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Ohhhh

humble moss
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zeus aid

midnight apex
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Then take lightning phalanx just to know what it does

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Also it’s pretty good against Theseus and Asterius

humble moss
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alr

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ill try

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how do I fight them though, I always panic and die

midnight apex
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Stay patient, kill Asterius first, and stay behind the goddang pillars

humble moss
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okay

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I have rocket bombs do I use those more or my main attack

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I have 18 ammo

midnight apex
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Use it whenever you can

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Use both

humble moss
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I attack but when I do I also get attacked

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thats bad

midnight apex
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Keep attacking and use the rocket when it comes off cooldown

humble moss
midnight apex
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You get attacked at, but if you do it right you’ll be safe enough

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What’s ur build?

humble moss
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like my whole boons?

midnight apex
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Core boons plz

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Attack, special, dash, cast and call

humble moss
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deadly strike lv 2 phalanx shot lv 3 ,curse of pain ,divine dash, zeus aid

midnight apex
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oh

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That’s… certainly a build

humble moss
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wdym

midnight apex
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That you can get

humble moss
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😭 🙏

midnight apex
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Except for a specific aspect

humble moss
midnight apex
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It’s good
But you barely get more damage

humble moss
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+48% right for each attack

humble moss
midnight apex
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Plus AOE

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Critting and multipliers do nothing if your base is 10 damage

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And ares on special is just kinda eh

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The cast and call are good tho

humble moss
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😔

humble moss
humble moss
midnight apex
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Preferably, you want to follow ZAP
ZEUS ATTACK
ARTEMIS SPECIAL
POSEIDON DASH

humble moss
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do I let it get full bars

midnight apex
humble moss
midnight apex
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Yeah use it as soon as you can

humble moss
midnight apex
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Yes

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Use your keepsakes to guarantee the build

vital socket
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I KILLED MEG

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ON MY 2ND ATTEMPT

midnight apex
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Oh nice

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Like second attempt EVER or just on shield?

humble moss
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I just use the thing that increases time with items from charons shop

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or skellys tooth

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I mean lucky tooth

midnight apex
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midnight apex
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Oh nice

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Wait how

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now im the next area

midnight apex
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I thought you just unlocked shield

humble moss
midnight apex
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Then get Zeus attack and Poseidon dash

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midnight apex
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Ah yeh

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Well that’s pretty impressive nice job

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midnight apex
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4

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Each harder than the last

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And it gets a lot harder at the third one

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midnight apex
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For one run

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are there dlc's or mods

midnight apex
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Mods yes dlc no

humble moss
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I WONNN

midnight apex
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But there’s a lot of replayability even after you beat the game 100 times

humble moss
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I BEAT THESEUS FOR THE FIRST TIME

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AAAAAAAAAA

vital socket
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noo i died

midnight apex
humble moss
midnight apex
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CONGRATS ON ACHIEVING MORE SUFFERING : D

humble moss
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you were right after taking out asterius theseus ez

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jus run around fr

midnight apex
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YUP

humble moss
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I only won because of my chaos boon that let me have another death defiance

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I wasted the lucky tooth on some other floor earlier

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(I lost the life because increased damage from the chaos boon)

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do I change keepsakes

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since the tooth is gone right

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@midnight apex

midnight apex
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Yes

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Sorry was doing smt

humble moss
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is good

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what are the good keepsakes

midnight apex
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God keepsakes

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Purse

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Acorn

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Charon

humble moss
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what should I use tho for after theseus

humble moss
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I got egg

midnight apex
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Egg is eh

humble moss
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😔

midnight apex
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Do you have Eurydice’s acorn?

humble moss
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yea

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ok ill try

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I can sell my boons too

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deadly strike for 170 phalanx for 120 curse of pain for 75

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I sell curse of pain right, its mid on the rocket bomb

midnight apex
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For selling?

humble moss
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yes

midnight apex
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What god is available for replacement

humble moss
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theres a replacement?

midnight apex
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Like what gods can you get from the pathways and shops

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If there’s Zeus sell deadly strike and grab his

humble moss
midnight apex
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Oh

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Then sell yhe attack

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And/or the special

humble moss
humble moss
midnight apex
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Yes

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more than 1?

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if I get rid of attack and special

midnight apex
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yes

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But no guarantee you can get good ones

humble moss
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alr just sold both 💀

midnight apex
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Gamblingggg

humble moss
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in the well theres eye of lamia, nemesis crest

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and braid of atlas

midnight apex
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Take none

humble moss
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braid good tho right, increased damange for cast

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6 encounters

midnight apex
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True

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But those will last for no time

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You’ll see why

humble moss
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nemesis has the fated choice thing on it

humble moss
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if u say s

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ight im setting out no attack or special boon shi gon be crazy dumb or crazy smart💀

midnight apex
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Oh it’ll be dumb

dusty vault
midnight apex
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But we gamble here

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Not be nerds

dusty vault
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Wait why no attack/special here I just got here

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Shackle gaming?

humble moss
midnight apex
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More like they had deadly strike on rail

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And ares on special

dusty vault
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Ohhh yeah that'll do it

humble moss
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💀 🙏

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temple of styx

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sounds fire

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Zag not fighting cerberus is so wholesome

dusty vault
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Wrong Z character

humble moss
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💀

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also

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WHY ARE THE SHOPS HERE SO EXPENSIVE

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450 FOR ZEUS BOON??

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WHAA

midnight apex
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Cuz they give better stuff

midnight apex
humble moss
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275 ANVIL

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whats a anvil

dusty vault
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Expensive boons have higher rarity (like 90% rare/10% epic iirc? But -2% duos chance)

humble moss
midnight apex
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Replaces one hammer with two random hammers

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Save for Zeus

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To get his attack

dusty vault
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What's on the tunnels?

humble moss
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there is artemis and ares (with skull on it)

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for tunnels

humble moss
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its too expensive tho

dusty vault
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Most of the time no

humble moss
midnight apex
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It’s very situational and oftentimes detrimental

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What’s in the tunnels?

humble moss
midnight apex
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Any coins

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Cuz I’d go there

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gold coin

midnight apex
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Getting Zeus attack is your priority

humble moss
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yea

midnight apex
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Then go there

humble moss
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! on it

midnight apex
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Don’t die!

humble moss
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in the shop you can get titan blood for 1200

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💀

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who has that type of money

humble moss
midnight apex
humble moss
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theres this thing that says cure on the corner

dusty vault
dusty vault
humble moss
dusty vault
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Same for that random duo

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Those sell for 410 coins

midnight apex
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Or that random legendary you really don’t need

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(Looking at you second wave)

humble moss
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oh no im losing hp

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at 84 now

humble moss
midnight apex
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Btw plz ping me if possible

humble moss
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NOOO THEY GOT ME

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purple lasers

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😭

dusty vault
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Rip 😔

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Tbf zeusless rail was gonna be rough 😭

midnight apex
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Welp now we try again

humble moss
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real

midnight apex
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Have you unlocked aspect of Eris

humble moss
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no I have almost no aspect

midnight apex
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Aight

humble moss
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s

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which ones should I get first

midnight apex
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Aspect of Eris

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If you like the rail

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Which is your fav weapon?

humble moss
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sword, shield, bow

midnight apex
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But you did best with the rail yeah?

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And you were running a bad build

humble moss
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gauntlets and spear hard but I still like them

humble moss
midnight apex
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Those are my recommendations

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Oh and Aspect of Eris for rail

humble moss
midnight apex
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For nemesis, run Artemis attack and Aphrodite special

humble moss
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and zagreus for bow

midnight apex
humble moss
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andd zagreus for shield 💀

humble moss
humble moss
midnight apex
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Dash strike twice, special
repeat

humble moss
midnight apex
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Yes

humble moss
midnight apex
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Aspect of Demeter

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My favourite

humble moss
humble moss
midnight apex
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You don’t see the character always

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Like do you ever see Chiron,

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Eris

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Talos

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Hera

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Just because they’re a name of an aspect doesn’t mean you see them in game

humble moss
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they are one of the 12 olympians

midnight apex
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And so is hera

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I should be seeing them right 💔

humble moss
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zeus's wife

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Quite the important figure

humble moss
midnight apex
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Zeus is a douche, don’t expect nothin

median sphinx
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hera is the best who cares about zeus

midnight apex
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That’s definitely not a biased opinion at all

swift tinsel
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what should I spend my first diamond on?

midnight apex
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Fishin

swift tinsel
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where do I find fishing?

midnight apex
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At the contractor

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And fishing spots appear everywhere

swift tinsel
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what does fishing do?

midnight apex
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Actually i forgot how much it costs

midnight apex
swift tinsel
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I don't see fishing anywhere in the house contractor menu

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do I have to free orpheus first?

midnight apex
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No, maybe I just got the pacing mixed up

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What CAN you spend diamonds on?

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Anyway so sorry I gtg sleep, but hopefully someone else can help you.

swift tinsel
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is there a tierlist for best aspects/weapons/

somber frigate
swift tinsel
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S > A > B > C… > F

humble ridge
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titan blood a bit too rare

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😭

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the hammered sword attack where it regenerates your HP by 2 per hit is so useful

somber frigate
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You do ultimately get a little over 95% of the titan blood you need naturally

swift tinsel
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are the minor prophecies quests?

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and do the hearts in the character log matter?

outer flint
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yes and yes

somber frigate
somber frigate
humble ridge
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I saw a heat 51 run option so why do ppl consider heat 32 max

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isn't 51 supposed to be that then?

somber frigate
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32 is the highest the game every requires for any content

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and is the highest a casual gamer really ever gets to, if at all

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therefore it’s like the first heat threshold considered “high heat”

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idk about anybody thinking it’s max heat thou

swift tinsel
fresh bridge
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||the last heat related in game trophy is 32h||

swift tinsel
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by trophy do you mean achievement>?

somber frigate
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There’s a little thing in game

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for doing 8, 16 and 32 heat respectively

outer flint
junior rapids
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What should I prioritize diamonds on? I’ve got vanquishers keep, fishing, admin, upgraded desk, and lyre

onyx hearth
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how come the dash strike timing for the bow is so odd

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i cant seem to spam it 😭

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its dash then press attack yea?

somber frigate
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It still needs to charge up

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It just charges way faster (50% faster)

onyx hearth
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btw what is the distant required for the boon sniper shot?

fresh bridge
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too long to be good

somber frigate
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or be usable

onyx hearth
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btw if im goin for dash strike spam do i take special boons instead of normal attack boons?

somber frigate
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Dash-strike and strike boons both apply to your dash strikes

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If you’re dash-strike spamming you want to maximise the damage from your strikes and thus your dashstrikes

somber frigate
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This is what it should look like if you’re dash striking

onyx hearth
onyx hearth
somber frigate
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5 seconds are pretty clear

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10 even

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I’m doing a prelab atm I can’t really watch a screensharw

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I feel like the first roughly 10 seconds of that video give you a good idea of what dash-striking should look like

somber frigate
onyx hearth
somber frigate
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Good

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doom strike is very questionable

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although

onyx hearth
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i had band rng with these rolls :(

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no good ones that would fit my style anyways

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the only other option was cast that throws the fog bomb but i barely use cast anyways

midnight apex
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Are you using your keepsakes correctly?

onyx hearth
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im using the 1% dodge

midnight apex
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Oh absolutely

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An olympians keepsake guarantees the next boon offered is one from the god of the respective keepsake

somber frigate
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using god keepsakes to get the build you wwant is pretty meta practice

midnight apex
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So you can choose your build

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It’s pretty standard practice that new players should learn to use at least to a basic level

somber frigate
onyx hearth
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damnn no wonder i wasnt getting dash deflect when i was using sword last run

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who should i use for sword and bow?

somber frigate
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Depends how meta you want to get tizomg

onyx hearth
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ive been playing for almost 8 hours now

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i think i should try a meta build lol

somber frigate
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Sword can start with artemis or aphrodite or athena for a like basic strike build, ares strike for a merciful end build or tidal dash

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Bow depends a lot more on which bow you’re using

onyx hearth
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theres differnet bows? how do i get new ones

midnight apex
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Try out every weapon first
You’ll understand

onyx hearth
somber frigate
midnight apex
somber frigate
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hammers aren’t boons and also aren’t tied at all to any of the gods

midnight apex
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And also the life steal hammer boom kinda sucks

onyx hearth
somber frigate
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The gameplay plan cursed slash wants you to use is counter to how merciful end and the rest of the meta builds even want to play since you need to standing strike for cursed slash but all the meta sword builds primarily dash-strike and special

somber frigate
onyx hearth
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nope

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oh wait u mean the titan blood?

somber frigate
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tizomg yes

onyx hearth
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i use the Aspect of Nemesis for sword

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none for the bow

somber frigate
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wlell

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notably differently

midnight apex
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Fairly different

somber frigate
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you can build them all solely focused on the strike, but chiron can specialise in specials (keyword can) and hera will build around the cast and the strike is extra scaling

onyx hearth
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is there a op shotgun build for the bow special? kinda fun spamming this more than the dash strike

somber frigate
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Not OP really

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charged volley is a meme build first and foremost

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but you can build it

onyx hearth
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ah so op is more on dash strike builds?

somber frigate
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strength comes more from dash-striking than specialing yes

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for bow

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by a fairly long shot

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and fairly less rng dependent amount

midnight apex
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Like Chiron exists

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But that’s more of a heat seeking type of deal than a shotgun

onyx hearth
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okay nvm this dash strike bow is super boring lol

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gna try the gun

midnight apex
midnight apex
onyx hearth
midnight apex
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Zeus

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For his attack

onyx hearth
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kk ty

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the lightning strike yea?

midnight apex
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Ye

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Sorry I’m busy doing smt rn I can’t hold your hand through this

somber frigate
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then

onyx hearth
midnight apex
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It’s a hammer

somber frigate
onyx hearth
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gun so far seems fun

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what op build are there for the guns?

midnight apex
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Grab Poseidon dash and find out

swift tinsel
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should I focus on buying all the weapons so I can unlock aspects or should I buy the next tier of mirror upgrades for 10 keys?

midnight apex
robust raven
midnight apex
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They know it seems

robust raven
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Also tbh mirror upgrade for me was rushing thick skin and death defiance

midnight apex
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Yes, but learning more weapons helps you find your preferred playstyle faster, and it’s more fun imo

robust raven
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Oh def

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I also realize I dont like spear

swift tinsel
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do I have to unlock artemis and demeter or am I just insanely unlucky

midnight apex
swift tinsel
dusty vault
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one of them is bad luck and the other can be solved

swift tinsel
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which is which?

dusty vault
swift tinsel
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I see

somber frigate
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You could also be filling up your god pool way early preventing you from seeing her

robust raven
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Iirc max is 4 gods (5 with hermes)

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Its like a pool, and removing gods doesnt open it back up

frail parcel
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If you force a god with a keepsake, they can still appear in new reward rooms same as if they were naturally in there, but of course this diminishes seeing the God you want at any given time.

molten mulch
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Hi guys I just started playing and I’m wondering how tf to heal

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Idk anything about rogue likes but I’ve beaten like 5 rounds at 10% hp now and I’m cooked

frail parcel
molten mulch
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Oh so what do I do now

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Die?

frail parcel
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Die.

molten mulch
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Oh

frail parcel
molten mulch
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Ok also can u explain what I’m doing rn ive just been fighting rounds and rounds

frail parcel
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'scaping.

molten mulch
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Is there anything to pick up or do in the arena except fight

frail parcel
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Not really.

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The doors show what rewards you get after each room.

molten mulch
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And i can’t use em till I die?

frail parcel
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Once you start your next run, I'd recommend looking for doors with keys and purple stones (darkness) for progression for future runs.

frail parcel
molten mulch
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Ok last question lol what’s the difference between proceeding key path and the purple thing path

frail parcel
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That's the reward you get.

midnight apex
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In one path you get a key, in one path you get darkness

molten mulch
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Yeah but I can only choose 1 idk what’s the difference

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Like should I consistently pick only 1 or mix it

midnight apex
frail parcel
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Rewards are separated into two categories: permanent items (blue laurel) and "disappears after the run" rewards (gold laurels).

midnight apex
frail parcel
molten mulch
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alr that makes sense, thanks guys. first roguelike 🙏🏼

midnight apex
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Technically it’s a rogue-lite, but yes, good luck!

frail parcel
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Just let yourself die and suck a little. The meat and potatoes of the game show when you die.

midnight apex
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Remember that dying is both optimal and suboptimal!

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Try not to die, but dying is good!

molten mulch
midnight apex
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Dying helps you learn, upgrade and git Gud, but don’t aim to die.

humble moss
midnight apex
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Sword dash TWICE

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Then special

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Then repeat

humble moss
midnight apex
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Try to do it as little as possible in comparison to the amount of dash strikes

humble moss
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also after u dash atk twice arent u too close to keep doint it

midnight apex
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You should start roughly where you started, or far enough behind them to reset

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Plus, the special hits knock back gives you room

humble moss
humble moss
midnight apex
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But sneaking in one attack every few dashes or when it seems fitting won’t kill you

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It’s just a good rhythm to get into

humble moss
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I see

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thank you for the information

crystal badger
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Started the game 3 days ago!

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Love it

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Thought of joining the server

robust raven
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Nice

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Have fun

crystal badger
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Thanks!

robust raven
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Dont be ashamed to lose runs

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It happens

crystal badger
robust raven
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Oh lol

crystal badger
robust raven
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You got more than me

crystal badger
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Elysium I think

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I am using shield!!!

robust raven
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3rd area tends to wall us

crystal badger
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Sadly I died trying to rush a boss

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I had that boon with upgrades where when u catch shield u do area damage

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I tried to rush area 3 boss like I did with 2 and 1

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But I died 2 times

robust raven
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Nice, what boon you get

crystal badger
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But I had
Prosperene special one upgraded twice
Zeus one where if enemy attack u , u fricking strike them with lightining and fo massive damage
Cast of posiedon
Dodge of athena
And one where if u throw shield and vatvh it back u do area damage kf multi target

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Which DOES A MASSIV DAMSGE IF U DO IT NEAR SOME ONE

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Like I was closing in with boss and spamming Q

robust raven
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Nicee

vital socket
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whats better shield or spear

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also should i turn on god mode setting

midnight apex
# vital socket whats better shield or spear

Depends on the person. All the weapons are good.

Shield is considered to be a better weapon tho. However it really comes down to preference. For example, the shield is my worst weapon by FAR. It took me to my 130th escape attempt to even beat it cuz I hated using it so much. That being said, I quite literally think it’s just me.

vital socket
midnight apex
vital socket
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quick update

midnight apex
vital socket
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i got that hydra boss to near half hp

vital socket
midnight apex
vital socket
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but those mini hydras are what gets me

midnight apex
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Yeah they’re the hardest part of the fight

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Well, apart from the lava

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But you’ll understand why much later

vital socket
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are there tips for it

midnight apex
#

Tbh, the hydra is pretty simple. It just takes some practice.

vital socket
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is it the final boss of the 2nd area

midnight apex
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Play more patiently, and remember dash striking doesn’t grant invincibility

vital socket
midnight apex
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That’s good, but you need to mix in regular dashes to get invinciblility

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What weapon?

midnight apex
vital socket
vital socket
midnight apex
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Have you unlocked aspects?

vital socket
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but idk

midnight apex
vital socket
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yeah

midnight apex
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Use the spear

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ASAP

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You won’t regret it

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And I don’t mean because it’s good (I mean it is) it’s cuz of another reason

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Do a run with every weapon

vital socket
#

alr

dusty vault
#

Just unlock all weapons

midnight apex
robust raven
#

Also each wep has bounties

humble moss
#

@midnight apex jus unlocked 2 hidden talents from the mirror Privelaged Status & Olympian Favor or Family Favorite & Dark Foresight

midnight apex
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The other one matters far less, but dark foresight is vital

humble moss
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also is fiery presence better than shadow presence (im using shadow rn)

humble moss
humble moss
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@midnight apex doing the sword build you said jus got hammer in tartarus

double edge, piercing slash, or piercing wave

midnight apex
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DOUBLE EDGE

humble moss
#

breaching slash*

midnight apex
#

FOR ALL THAT IS HOLY, TAKE DOUBLE EDGE

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It’s cracked

humble moss
midnight apex
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Broken

humble moss
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ight fs

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bet

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@midnight apex poseidon
flood shot
poseidon aid
oceans bounty

dusty vault
humble moss
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bounty is best right

humble moss
dusty vault
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His call otherwise is solid imo but idk what other calls you have available

humble moss
midnight apex
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Very solid cast all around

dusty vault
humble moss
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I like ping pong

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but Im taking damage with sword a lot idk if ill make it

humble moss
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since I can jus find something else later right because im only in tartarus

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aight I took the shot

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just got into a chaos gate @midnight apex
paupers lunge
enshrouded affluence
maimed grasp

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last run I took the maimed grasp

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+1 cast is really good

midnight apex
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That’s dash attack correct?

humble moss
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yes

midnight apex
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Then Linge

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Lunge

humble moss
#

took it

humble moss
# midnight apex Lunge

just bought another artemis boonsince got nothing else since poseidon shot right before boss 1
hunter dash (makes dash strike 70% stronger)
mirage shot (duo)
clean kill

midnight apex
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Ummmm are you planning on getting Poseidon dash?

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If yes, take the mirage shot duo boon to sell

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If no, take the dash

humble moss
humble moss
midnight apex
humble moss
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zamn

midnight apex
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I actually don’t remember exactly how much

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Could be Les

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Less

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I’d take the dash personally

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Also plz don’t bother me anymore it’s rlly late here and I should sleep

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I’ll talk to you tmr maybe

humble moss
#

good night

sullen quest
#

Hi I know this is random but I’m just curious how do you make it show on discord that your playing the hades game? I have my epic games account connected on discord but it doesn’t show up that I’m playing it like other games.

lament blaze
sullen quest
lament blaze
sullen quest
lament blaze
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You're welcome

latent glacier
#

what renovation should i spend my diamonds on? I can buy the erebus gate thing but its all my diamonds so idk if its worth it

robust raven
#

The darker thirst is pretty decent

solemn smelt
#

how do i get duo boons?

somber frigate
# solemn smelt how do i get duo boons?

You need to meet the prerequisites from each god (9/10 times this is just having a core boon from each, but it does depend on the specific duo), then you have a chance to roll them every time you pick up a boon from either god

minor cloak
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guys should i launch hades 1 directx or vulkan or 32-bit

solemn smelt
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btw is there like a secret god i need to unlock cuz it says im still missing one. or do i just need to play more

somber frigate
somber frigate
solemn smelt
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yeeeaa ive only reached up to the minatour and the spear guy boss

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any builds that are good early game?

somber frigate
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There are a number of builds I can think of that would be on the safer end of things I suppose

solemn smelt
#

what would u recommend

somber frigate
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zeus shield is pretty safe, I mean the shield on the whole but zeus is like extra safe

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hera and hestia let you stay at farther range and still pop off for damage, moreso than the other bow and rail aspects

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if any of those are really speaking to you

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otherwise a cast build with achilles spear should be pretty safe

median sphinx
#

hera best bow!!!!!

golden drift
#

what do i do with titan blood

somber frigate
swift tinsel
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is there a way to tell if the room will be a fountain room?

fresh bridge
swift tinsel
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what do I do after I beat the game?

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what content do I unlock?

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also any tips for the minotaur and other guy

outer flint
#

After that you can finish the epilogue and get all the dialogue and character relationships

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When you beat a run you unlock a way to get more boss rewards (diamonds, ambrosia, etc), and a way to increase the difficulty of the runs

onyx hearth
#

does deadly strike obon (increase crit chance with attack) count towards dash attacks like tidal dash

dusty vault
#

If the buff specifies the dmg source is often just for that

onyx hearth
#

dash strike combo counts as an attack yea?

dusty vault
#

For something a bit more obvious, chaos's dash strike buff only works on the actual weapon dash strike

onyx hearth
#

does special also count as an attack?

midnight apex
dusty vault
#

Deadly strike works with dash attacks but not special

midnight apex
#

The pressure point boon lets you do everything tho

dusty vault
#

Special would need deadly flourish instead (or global crit chance like mentioned above)

somber frigate
onyx hearth
#

was my rng jsut bad, i keep getting ||dermetes|| god and hermes using sword and poeisodon as my keepsake

midnight apex
somber frigate
pseudo garnet
#

i do not know if this is the right channel but i am looking to buy hades 2
should i buy hades 1 or do i not bother and go straight to 2?

fresh bridge
somber frigate
midnight apex
junior rapids
#

Hades 2 spoiler: it’s about Greek mythology

swift tinsel
#

what aspects should I get?

toxic mica
#

I would recommend an aspect, but I genuinely can’t remember what I was running on the iOS build of the game.

midnight apex
#

Sorry if I’ve asked this earlier, I got eh memory

swift tinsel
somber frigate
swift tinsel
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but ive gotten the farthest with spear

somber frigate
midnight apex
#

Then let’s go with Aspect of Achilles

swift tinsel
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ok

midnight apex
swift tinsel
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what does it do?

midnight apex
#

You can dash to your spear, and the next 4 attacks do a lot more damage

somber frigate
#

Next 4 strikes or casts*

midnight apex
#

(Attacks meaning strikes and casts)

swift tinsel
#

cool

somber frigate
swift tinsel
somber frigate
#

ahh

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yeah

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that’ll do it

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bow standing strike try not to take way to long and be way too dangerous

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💔

midnight apex
somber frigate
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uhhh

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suree

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I haven’t added it to my quick dial copy pasta channel yet

somber frigate
# swift tinsel I like all of them except for the bow

The leading cause of dissatisfaction with bow is standing-striking-itus. It's the bane of new players picking up bow for the first time.

Symptoms of standing-striking-itus may include:

  • Feelings that bow isn't a fast enough weapon
  • Emotional (and physical damage) due to your attacks getting interrupted by enemies
  • Feelings that bow has "low damage output"

Is what's happening to me normal?

It's very common for first time bow users and even long term Hades fans to experience standing-striking-itus. Roughly 1 in 3 Hades players will experience it within their lifetimes. It can be a long-running, persistent illness if left untreated.

How do I treat standing-striking-itus?

Start dash-striking when you use bow. Dash striking on bow acts just like a regular strike, but it charges 50% faster, and deals 66% of the base damage.
This allows bow to play far more aggressively, thanks to increased mobility and decreased gaps in damage. Dash strikes also benefit from dash-strike damage boosts, sourced from Artemis's Hunter Dash, and Chaos's Lunge boons, allowing for even higher damage scaling. When you wrap everything up, you end up with a safer, faster, and higher damaging package than what you had before, and this is usually sufficient treatment for 95% of standing-striking-itus sufferers.

-Dr Shackle

swift tinsel
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just 1 in 3?

midnight apex
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From his experience it seems so

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For example, I thought I’d hate the bow, but I found it fun. Shackle here is technically a bow main. That being said, 1 in 3 is a large amount.

somber frigate
#

others either figure out dash-striking early or don’t mention anything specific about bow

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At least

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that’s the statistic I thought of when I actually wrote out that message

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which was likeee

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2am or something on a random evening

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I probably thought it was accurate at the time and I’d be willing to stick to it ~ish now

novel swift
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Eh

#

I would say it’s a little higher

somber frigate
#

Not everyone will think to dash-strike with bow and a fair amount just get confused about how it works

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I know some people expect to be able to just click immediately during the dash

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no hold

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other people who thought dashstriking with bow was standing striking and then dashing while it’s fully charged

#

*but a number are also content to just crutch on Chiron for all their bow troubles and never really worry too much about it

robust raven
#

Im ngl

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I struggled with chiron bow

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Got walled by cramped rooms with lots of cover

frail arch
#

is it better to do a jack of all trades build or just focus on one to two things?

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i mostly only play around 1 of 2 things

novel swift
#

Generally that’s the play ye

frail arch
#

like focusing on special attacks if im using the spear

novel swift
#

Make a build around one attack and use the others for little things

frail arch
#

yea i try to go for like

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zeus or ares room for dmg

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then something like Athena or the love lady for survival

robust raven
#

Oh Paz btw

#

Majority of stuff in hades is additive

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So a 20% damage buff is +20% damage

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So a 20% damage boon and a 10% damage boon add up to 30%

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Its why most builds focus on upping % for big damage or getting static buffs for multihit (i.e. jolt/hangover)

#

I had one run where I beat final boss in 30 seconds with absurd doomstacking and another where I failed critfishing for 7 minutes on the same fight

novel swift
#

30s is prob a bit fast for doomstacking, but ye

#

Builds really matter

robust raven
#

Idk if it was strictly 30s

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I used zeus shield

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So uptime was basically all the time for that fight

#

Mind you btw both of those builds I did focus around

frail arch
#

good to know! thanks for the tip

robust raven
#

So sometimes even focused builds cant cut it if you're unlucky

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Oh btw theres a trinket that gives 1% damage buff per room cleared hitless

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And yes its bad due to being additive lol

somber frigate
#

Even with merciful end you’d need fairly high global additive

novel swift
#

It’s not really doom stacking with me tho

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Just got a 28s Styx into a 46s final boss

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Actual tragedy

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But while on the topic of speed running

#

Next sub 5, over or under 4:45

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Get your guesses in now!

somber frigate
somber frigate
#

I think the fastest Hades fight I ever actually timed splits for was ~30s tizomg

novel swift
#

Ye

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30s is about where most aspects max out

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Even with hella crazy builds

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Some can maybe get like 28

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But the only ones going below 25 are the two big hitters

sweet brook
#

30s final boss on any aspect besides like the top 2 would be considered insane lmfao

novel swift
#

Eris and Hestia can get it sometimes

sweet brook
#

hella juice tho

novel swift
#

With purple rd and clockets and like 3 ichors, but still

sweet brook
#

yeah lmfao

golden drift
#

which companion should i unlock first

robust raven
#

Imo most useful is sisyphus

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But to be frank you'd be lucky to get him in 50 runs

#

Easiest for time/value is meg

midnight apex
#

Meg is almost objectively the best

robust raven
#

Personally prefer sisyphus for the health drop

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My main issue is sustain, my build carries dps

tough hearth
#

How do I get companions

dusty vault
# tough hearth How do I get companions

Ambrosia to one of the 6 following characters ||Meg, Than, Dusa, Achilles, Skelly, Sisyphus||
To gift ambrosia you gift enough nectar until you reach a lock (seen in their codex page) and do a favor for them, a lot of these favors are pretty much just keep talking, others can be a bit more specific and you can refer to the wiki for them

tough hearth
twin fjord
#

Question: does the max save file for h1 unlock all achievements or did you guys find a work around for that?

dusty vault
twin fjord
#

Ah rip

frail arch
#

how often are you picking the blessing that grants a new power thingy

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you press f/rt to use it

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i only really take it if its like an epic or if there isnt anything nice

dusty vault
#

Athena/pos are good

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The others have niches/can be used as iframes

toxic mica
#

You want the Athena one for fighting Hades himself.
Deflect + Dodge build with Malphons fist in general makes the game a cakewalk.
You think dodge chance is whack, until your dodge chance is so high, and you have so many deflect abilities, that you literally almost can’t be hit

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Oh I forgot. I took screens of my build after beating the game a couple times, before the Netflix version got nuked

frail arch
#

im still trying to find a weapon that i LIKE like before spending my points

#

so far fists and the bow seem like the 2 best options but i hate using the bow on controller

#

another question: how much should i care about completing the blessings checklist?

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if theres no better option i take the option that i havent taken yet but im not sure if i should always be taking it or what

somber frigate
#

Although if you’re really close to completion, just take a boon to knock it out and get you that step closer

#

since there are a few boons where you’d actually like never really want em over the other options

onyx hearth
#

is there a cooldown for heavens vengance?

#

like if i get damaged 3 times in a row does that mean that enemy gets hit 3 times aswell?

midnight apex
somber frigate
midnight apex
#

Or at least extremely little

somber frigate
#

so heavens vengeance should only be able to prok every 0.2s

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now

#

that’s supposed to be per enemy per source

midnight apex
onyx hearth
dusty vault
#

All lightning bolts have the 0.2s cd

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Chain lightning is 0.15s

#

Vengeance has the doom drop time

wind sierra
#

It seems faster but since I don’t really run both I can’t really tell

somber frigate
#

No you can get funny with doom

wind sierra
#

Doom is fun

somber frigate
#

if you’re playing a merciful end build

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and you hit curse of vengeance and then holy shield after

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Boom everytime you take damage you release a doom wave and immediately following the holy shield deflect drops your doom

wind sierra
#

Merciful end is class but since it’s hard to check since you have to land an Athena boon attack

somber frigate
#

The real hard thing about merciful end is the consistency nerf they gave it

wind sierra
#

Do I have gif perms I wonder

junior rapids
#

What is this nerf?

wind sierra
#

Huzzah

junior rapids
#

Ah hades 2 spoiler

somber frigate
#

Is that a spoiler or olympus extra

#

the mod

wind sierra
#

Mod

junior rapids
#

Oh didn’t know that was a thing mb

somber frigate
wind sierra
somber frigate
#

so like ares strike -> divine dash was too strong

wind sierra
#

I got water on my phone

somber frigate
#

so they made it so you need either athena strike or special for Merciful End and Deadly Reversal

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so you can’t open them with just divine dash

#

so merciful End builds now need 3 core boons to come online

junior rapids
#

Oh, yeah didn’t know that used to be a thing that would’ve been really fast set up

midnight apex
#

It’s still strong as hell

somber frigate
#

Curse of Agony (ares strike) -> Divine Flourish (athena special, only to open the duo) -> divine dash (so all your dashstrikes inflect doom and then deflect)

#

That’s also why tidal dash can’t open sea storm by itself

junior rapids
#

I had a fists run that didn’t get offered merciful end till ||the satyr tunnels|| the other day. Kept thinking damn I’m just never gonna get it despite having the pre reqs

midnight apex
#

Yeah such is the average ME experience

somber frigate
junior rapids
#

I beat the game like 5 or 6 times in a row after discovering merciful end with fists lol

#

I think I actively became worse at other play styles, and need to relearn some stuff

midnight apex
#

Hey, as one Merciful End fists enjoyer to another. YOU CAN JUST PLAY MERCIFUL END WITH ANYTHING MELEE

#

AKA anything but the bow

#

Rail is a melee weapon

#

Except for Hestia

junior rapids
#

Isn’t bow basically a melee weapon also

somber frigate
#

yeah but

#

you need flurry shot for ME bow to work

#

Since the crux of the ME build is the immediate drop

onyx hearth
somber frigate
#

on dash

onyx hearth
#

REDACTED

somber frigate
#

but with regular bow the dash-strike comes out after your dash boon goes off

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which is backwards

onyx hearth
#

so how do i unlocked these locked areas next to hades room

junior rapids
#

Which weapons/aspects are good with hunting blades? As far as I understand it’s generally good all around, but is there a weapon it’s best with?

somber frigate
somber frigate
#

should be in work orders?

midnight apex
#

Love the thing

somber frigate
#

so achilles primarily, then poseidon sword and talos fists

midnight apex
#

I highly do not recommend talos fists

somber frigate
#

and technically eris but eris has better things to do, blades would just be like a bonus

midnight apex
#

It’s just aggressively eh

somber frigate
#

You want artemis anyways

#

It’d just be like 4th god ends up being ares

#

Hunting blades is also great to crutch on any weapons you’re particularly bad with or specific aspects you suck with but want to clear a specific condition with (like under x time but you suck with chaos shield or something, or clearing a specific ||heat value with all aspects but you can’t win with hades spear for the life of you||)

midnight apex
#

Wrong game I believe

past panther
#

mb

midnight apex
#

Happens all the time

tough hearth
#

is there any way to save right before theh final boss fight

midnight apex
#

But there’s no checkpoint

#

There’s no checkpoint anywhere here, it’s a roguelite

tough hearth
#

kk ty

leaden whale
#

I always used the hunting blades as a try to get a win but not confident with the weapon. When I struggled with spear but it was the boosted resource weapon

potent crest
#

im struggling with getting guan yu aspect:

i have 5 titan blood spent
i have beaten hades several times

robust raven
#

Its just bad

#

-40% hp at best for 2% healing (1% rounded down?)

fresh bridge
#

||its -50% max hp for a flat 1 hp heal per enemy/tick of the spin|| should probably spoiler that as its post final boss btw ZagSalute

potent crest
midnight apex
midnight apex
robust raven
#

Bruh Im awful with the spear

junior rapids
#

Achilles spear was weapon I was best with, but I realized kinda late I was using it exact same way as zag spear lol (ie I didn’t realize that it gave a bonus to the special and just kept melee striking)

#

Recently it changed to I’m best with fists with merciful end, but um that’s not hard to be good at

midnight apex
junior rapids
#

Flurry jab is one hell of a drug though

robust raven
#

First is so fun

#

First

#

Fist

#

Zag fist with plume is rly fun

#

I was never lucky enough to get flurry jab

nimble coral
#

does lasting consequences stack or does it stays at 25% no matter how many I have?

robust raven
#

It scales up iirc

#

So 100% means no healing

#

But I think some sources of hp bypass that

#

Like guan yu is lifesteal, not healing (at least on older patches)

#

Still horrible tho

fresh bridge
robust raven
#

I am among them

#

The lifesteal is a lie

#

It works but like the main draw is the damage

midnight apex
robust raven
#

Yeah

tall aspen
#

guan yu is so fun

#

Just force Athena

#

Get Athena attack

#

Get big spin

#

/ fast spin

potent crest
#

what are mirage shot pre reqs

#

i swear i cant get it

midnight apex
# potent crest what are mirage shot pre reqs

Artemis: Deadly Strike, Deadly Flourish, True Shot, Hunter's Flare or Artemis' Aid

Poseidon: Tempest Strike, Tempest Flourish, Flood Shot, Flood Flare, Tidal Dash, or Poseidons' Aid

#

It’s literally one of the most loose prerequisites

potent crest
#

is it just rng after you get the prereqs

midnight apex
#

Yes

#

And you can’t get them in trials

potent crest
#

im just abysmally unlukcy

midnight apex
midnight apex
somber frigate
#

Cuz best case scenario with no boost your odds are at least one duo legendary every 3 boons

#

But if you cores aren’t filled and you haven’t taken the status boon from every god involved

#

then your odds drop dramaticslly

robust raven
#

What cores btw

fresh bridge
robust raven
#

So of I fill those 4

#

My boon picks get better

fresh bridge
#

on average yes

somber frigate
#

so as soon as you have them filled you go from having 2 options for duo/legendaries (and other secondaries) per boon to 3 options

deft meteor
#

what is fated choice i see sometimes on boons?

somber frigate
deft meteor
#

new person. finally escape successfully on 35 attempts. any good tips for pact of punishment? what should i pick for first time using it? thanks

robust raven
#

The boss changes ones are free sorta

somber frigate
robust raven
#

3 is kinda weird

#

It makes one boss harder but another arguably easier

lethal zealot
#

Can I get Sisyphus 2 runs in a row?