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rigid crane
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does decoration do anything

somber frigate
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You have to kill all the enemies to get the reward, & the resources inside drain as you take longer

rigid crane
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yeah everything i open it i forgot im at low health

somber frigate
rigid crane
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oh decorations do give something

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is shield the best weapon

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i find the block very useful

somber frigate
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I mean everything is pretty equally viable until you get to the extremes of the game

rigid crane
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and im so broke in keys 😭

somber frigate
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But different aspects of the shield are both very good with speed and the added difficulty modifiers later ingame

somber frigate
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I started a new save file recently and all I needed so bad were keys

rigid crane
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i got tidal dash

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niceee

somber frigate
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Tidal dash is stronggg

rigid crane
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and the block gives speed and dmg buff

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its so good

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i love shield

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the uhh raging bull upgrade asw

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its not even that hard to trigger

somber frigate
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What were your other options for hammers besides ferocious guard (if you remember)

rigid crane
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uh

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piercing strike?

somber frigate
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Piercing 🤨

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Cannot think of a single hammer that sounds anything along those lines

rigid crane
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yeah raging bull is replaced by the

somber frigate
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Ohhhh

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Charged Shot

rigid crane
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damn im bad at memorising names

somber frigate
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ron you may have missed out…

rigid crane
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im so tempted to descend but i think i want the boon

rigid crane
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😭

somber frigate
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I didn’t get the names down until way way down the line

somber frigate
rigid crane
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is shield special just bad or is it my problem

somber frigate
rigid crane
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also how does the call bar work?

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god guage

somber frigate
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Charges up as you deal & take damage, once you hit a tick meter on the bar you can use a minicall, or fill it to 100% for a full call

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once you complete a room you lose all god gauge

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I figure you have poseidons call if it’s your 4th run? From the scripted event

rigid crane
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no i got the uhhh

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crit guy

somber frigate
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Am I even on the right number of runs rn? I remember you saying your 3rd attempt earlier so I’m guessing this is the 4th

rigid crane
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archer guy

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3rd attempt on the first boss

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its like my 6th run idk

somber frigate
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Artemis is a woman last time I checked

somber frigate
rigid crane
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nahh bruh i swear the good things get covered up by a very bad description

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tidal dash sounds horrible from just the description

somber frigate
# rigid crane archer guy

With artemis’s call, it’s one of the few where a full call is actually more valuable than spamming minicalls. Use the mini calls as soon as you have it in tiny rooms, but charge it up for boss fights

somber frigate
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Like

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You can only understand the value of Static Discharge from Zeus by installing a dps mod and realising holy crap

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this does so much of my damage

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but it doesn’t sound like much from it’s description

sweet brook
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tdash tells you how good it is by showing you the highest number for a dash lmao

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which you generally don't realize until you play more of the game and look at other dashes

somber frigate
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TDASH is big number go boom

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with good speed and good aoe

rigid crane
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yeah but like it says pushing away

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and from the other boons

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it feels like it sucks

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cuz enemy go away when u approach

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lvl 3 tidal dash

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lets goo

somber frigate
rigid crane
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bruh i died to boss again

sweet brook
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tbf the push back on tidal dash can suck at times but the fact that its damage is so high kinda makes up for that fact

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most of the time tho it's not a big deal

rigid crane
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how do i finish "is there no escape"

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theres no description

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or does it contain spiolers

somber frigate
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Is that a steam achievement or smthing

rigid crane
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no its one of the quest thing in your room

somber frigate
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oh it’s a prophecy

rigid crane
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athenas cast is so good as well

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yoo

somber frigate
rigid crane
somber frigate
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Well yeah it’s trying to be vague while still telling you exactly what you need to do

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What’s Zagreus trying to do ingame rn

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dyk why he’s fighting his way through the underworld

rigid crane
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hes trying to go to olympia

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oh so i have to beat the game

somber frigate
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It’s a roguelite so

rigid crane
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can i still get the charged shot if i get raging bull upgrades

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like does it apply to charge shot

somber frigate
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Any shield rush boons apply to the new charged shot

rigid crane
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man its been a long time since ive had so much fun playing a game

rigid crane
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amazing

somber frigate
# rigid crane oh ok

Typically speaking if a hammer won’t work with a different hammer, they’re deemed ā€œincompatibleā€ and you literally cannot have both at the same time

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Otherwise it’s fair game

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Which weapon should I run with hmm

rigid crane
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i died to trap :(

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lets go

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i beat first boss hitless

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im getting the hang of it

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is hermes dash good

grave prawn
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yeah it's good for speed

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but having another god's dash boon as well would be more helpful

dusty vault
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What

dusty vault
# rigid crane is hermes dash good

+dashes are insanely good.

Hyper sprint on its own is solid, what makes it really good is that it opens the rush delivery boon from hermes, which converts movement speed into dmg.

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+dashes and rush delivery really want more rarity

rigid crane
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oh theres continuation to boons

dusty vault
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A bunch of books needs pre requisites to appear yeah

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Most importantly for duo boons and legendary boons

grave prawn
rigid crane
dusty vault
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You can to some extent

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Using a god keepsake will guarantee the next boon you see is from the god you want, after that they are added to what we call the "god pool"

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Each god you have a boon from is added to this pool, and once 4 gods are in (hermes/chaos don't count) the rest will disappear from the run

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So your odds of seeing a god you want are greatly increased

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Then there's some mirror skills that boosts how many boons (along other in run boosts) you see on the run and boon rerolls

dusty vault
rigid crane
somber frigate
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when that’s blatantly not how Hermes works at all

fleet rain
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Tidal Dash alone makes +Dash God tier

somber frigate
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is also

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pretty high up there

grave prawn
inner notch
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hey guysis there any order in wich is better to gift the nectar to the gods or npcs?

inner notch
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ok, in gods any particular order or my favorite first?

grave prawn
inner notch
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perfect bro thanks

misty wave
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am i right in thinking that when i get later into the game ill basically be able to breeze through the starting sections. what what i hear a bunch of people saying

steady lark
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yes

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start middle end all of it

misty wave
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i see šŸ‘€ im still barely able to get to asphodel most runs 😭

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then again im only 7.4 hours in, so ...

hollow hull
grave prawn
inner notch
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guys is there any weapon of the starting 4 that is better than the rest or should i pick whatever i am more comfotable with

misty wave
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oh.

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anyway I BEAT THE HYDRA !!!

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i love the shield šŸ™ especially with the minotaur bash upgrade

inner notch
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ok ill use the spear

outer flint
outer flint
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mostly the block

misty wave
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NOOOO i died so far ... augghh

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can confirm the shield is really good tho

inner notch
outer flint
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nah

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when u hold atk it blocks

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while charging bull rush

inner notch
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oh i wanted parry

outer flint
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i dont think theres a parry in this game

misty wave
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also guys is the court musicians sentence worth getting ?

outer flint
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i mean why not?

misty wave
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i dont really know what it does and diamonds seem quite scarce

outer flint
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don

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dont go for it at the start

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eventually you get the ability to grind diamonds

misty wave
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i see

somber frigate
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Just play what you want

rigid crane
rigid crane
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should i pick god of wine or god of love

outer flint
rigid crane
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shield

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i picked wine anyways cuz love trial feels weak

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oh i got my first duo

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noooooooo i was so close to beating second boss

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noooooooooooooo

glacial rock
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this is the first game i have ever played where i love the struggle. think i have found a new genre 🤣

somber frigate
# rigid crane shield

Aphrodite will do better on your strike than dionysus, dionysus will do a better job on your call if u have it unlocked

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For shield

fossil mountain
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hey guys whats the best build to beat hades on chiron bow?

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Dionysus + aphrodite combo??

fresh current
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Chiron revolves mostly around the special, so boon choice there is key. Lots of attack/special combos can work, you mostly want a %-based god on attack and then a curse boon on special. Things like Aphrodite, Athena, Artemis etc for attack, then Dio or Zeus for special. Artemis is the exception to this rule, she can put in great work slotted on Chiron special when combined with Aphro attack for heart rend

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Zeus isn’t a perfect choice for the special as Chiron’s fire rate outpaces the internal cooldown on lightning bolts but it’ll still put in work. Ares can also be an interesting choice for Chiron attack if you’re forced into it since you don’t use your attack quite as often as other bow aspects

dusty vault
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for arty special you want high level chiron btw

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hangover chiron can work with low lv + relentless volley

fossil mountain
fossil mountain
dusty vault
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max ideally lol

fossil mountain
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to get it to kill considerably fast

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god bless ok max it is

dusty vault
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hangover chiron can prob work with 2?

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is that 4 or 5 arrows

fossil mountain
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5

novel swift
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5

fossil mountain
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level 2 is 5 arrows

dusty vault
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yeah decent enough

fossil mountain
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what are the max stacks for hangover anyway isnt it 5

hollow hull
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if you don't like special build on chiron, you can start twin/triple/explosive too

dusty vault
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8 with aphro duo

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but yeah 5 normally

fossil mountain
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then why would we wanna max chiron bow out if max stacks is already 5?

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and the level 2 chiron bow already fires 5 shots

dusty vault
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at max you shoot 8 arrows which is perfect for the aphro duo boon

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that way you don't need relentless volley to max stacks in 1 special

fossil mountain
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i seeeeeee

hollow hull
dusty vault
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keep thinking if its 7 or 8

fossil mountain
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isnt max 9

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or am i high

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prob am

dusty vault
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normal bow shoots 9

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chiron has 1 less

fossil mountain
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right so usually yall go with athena or dio keepsake at start?

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athena for divine dash ofc

dusty vault
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start with the god focused on your build

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so with the same build we are talking, start dio

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guarantees him in your pool and you can get poms easiliy on it

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before you pick up too many boons

fossil mountain
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i heard max gods is 4??

dusty vault
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oh yeah god pool
tl;dr picking up a god adds- yeah that

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each god you take takes a pool slot, once 4 are taken the rest are gone

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hermes/chaos don't count for this, selling all boons won't remove them from the pool

fossil mountain
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but sometimes i pick up like 5, not core skills but something like poseidon making loot more valuable, does that count towards the pool?

dusty vault
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yup

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if you take their boon they are in the pool

fossil mountain
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tf oh ye might be cuz i got hermes and i counted it

dusty vault
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not taking the door that has them or not buying their boon on the shop won't add them

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and there's a few ways to bypass the limit

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god keepsakes will force the god even at cap, then add them to the pool
shop stuff (enter with 3, buy 4th then be offered 5th on the door)
entering last biome with 3 gods or less

fossil mountain
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ok i never knew this

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hmm

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also is there a way to skip rooms

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like chiron dio special build doesnt use poseidon and if the room forc3es me to take poseidon

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isnt that gg

dusty vault
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chaos/shops/fountains/npc rooms are what we call free rooms

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oh for that, have to be lucky

hollow hull
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You can just not take a core boon

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Or tidal dash, which is always good

dusty vault
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but builds usually just wanna depend on 2 gods max exactly for that

fossil mountain
dusty vault
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cores are the 5 boons to the left of the ui

hollow hull
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Cores will always be attack, special, cast, dash, and call

dusty vault
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they always have the same naming convention (minus ares cuz whatever)

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attack is strike/special is flourish/cast is shot/dash is dash (lol)/call is aid

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ares is attack is agony and special I don't remember

fossil mountain
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ok but doesnt it add to my god pool tho even if it isnt a core skill ive taken

dusty vault
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yeah that'll happen

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not much you can do about it

fossil mountain
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ok we rerolling rooms then

dusty vault
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you don't want a build based around 4 gods lol

fossil mountain
dusty vault
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so for example hangover dio you start dio keepsake then in aspho force aphro for example

dusty vault
fossil mountain
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nah cuz i saw a guide saying u shhould have dio on special aphro on attack athena on dash, artemis on somewhere

dusty vault
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just aphro + dio is enough

fossil mountain
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i waas like ok bro lets see how likely i get it

dusty vault
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athena always nice ofc but chiron has range

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lucky scenario you get aphro or athena in tart then can force the other into asphodel

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then 4th god can ideally be idk ares or arty for their hangover duos but it won't be run over if they don't show up

fossil mountain
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so youre saying i have to have 2 gods on tart

dusty vault
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using their keepsake I mean

fossil mountain
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then in the shop , equip keepsake to get next god on asphodel?

dusty vault
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yeah if you only get dio in tart and idk, pos and zeus, I'd take aphro's keepsake before going into asphodel
if you find dio and aphrodite in tart (and one random god), you could take athena's keepsake into asphodel to close the pool and take her dash for example

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or say you have dio and aphro and 2 random gods you could consider if adding a 5th god with a keepsake is worth (once again athena for example)

fossil mountain
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thanks for taking ur time explaining this to me

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would take ages to understand just by scrolling thru reddit

dusty vault
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everyone here doesn't like suggesting reddit anyways so dw

hollow hull
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Hades Reddit is pretty much the worst place to go for advice

fossil mountain
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tf i just got a random boon that makes my boons all epic rank and above

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god damnn

hollow hull
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nice, that sure sounds like your access got improved

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one could say it's exclusive now

rigid crane
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is heroic under legendary

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how does one even get legendary

random sage
random sage
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a tier 2 boon is something you can get if you have one of the tier 1s from that god

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double strie from zues you can only get if you have thunder flourish, his call or his thunder dash

rigid crane
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so it just goes up sort of like a boon line

random sage
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yep, some are specifc, can check prereqs from wiki or codex index upgrade if you have that

rigid crane
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okey thanks

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wait what about duo

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is duo better than leg

random sage
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i find the legendaries are harder to get but duos are usually better for everything else

random sage
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no real ascending order, but yeha

rigid crane
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oh ok

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i only got duo once

random sage
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hell yeah

copper flint
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So I've gotten 2 keepsakes so far, the old spiked collar and the lucky tooth. It seems like I can only equip one though, and swapping out during a run would make me lose on the effect.

If I die with lucky tooth, does it use the revival that gives first, or does it use my other death defiances from the mirror first? If its the former, then I could probably use a death defiance and then swap to the old spiked collar

fresh current
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It's the latter, tooth is always consumed last iirc

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Use the tooth as your band-aid keepsake until you get 2 or 3 DDs to your name. Spiked collar is nice but 50 extra base health in the mirror is pretty cheap and you can also supplement quite well during your run with max health pickups. 150-200 health with 2-3x DDs is a very comfy amount of health to walk into the final boss with

somber frigate
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it depends on the weapon you're using, it's aspect, the rest of the build you've got in mind for it

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in general most legendaries are both harder to obtain and less useful than a solid duo though

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since you need more secondary boons from the same God to unlock them as opposed to easy to obtain core boons from 2 gods, and you have the chance to get the duo from either god as opposed to the legendary only coming from the god that offers it

rigid crane
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how to get blood

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or darkness

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actually darkness is fine

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how to get blood

slow saffron
# rigid crane how to get blood

hiiiii

defeat bosses with different weapons for the first times! this will grant you titans blood.

darkness-wise, meeting up with a certain fellow who’s pushing a rock in tartarus is a verrryyyy good way to get some darkness too! seeing as i run into him about every other attempt, that’s a free 100 darkness at least! as well as using the weapons with darkness boosted (all purple and smoky around them)

rigid crane
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nvm theres like more than 2 bosses and 6 weapons

outer flint
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but once you beat a run you unluck a way to grind enough blood for all your needs

rigid crane
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oh

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ok

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is there any way to check if my weapon has defeated the boss yet or nah

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cuz i kinda forgot

outer flint
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not to my knowledge

dusty vault
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Before first win no

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Gotta keep track yourself

rigid crane
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LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO

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I UNDERESTIMATED GUN

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ITS SO GOOD

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I. BEAT SECOND BOSS

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first time in stage 3 kinda scared haha

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bro the cow was 2 shots away from dying

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how is a 2v1 fair

dusty vault
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Is kinda a 1.5v1 tbh

outer flint
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u made it all the way to the third boss?

rigid crane
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noooooooooooooooo

rigid crane
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and he was 2 shot from dying

outer flint
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2v1 is fair tho cuz asterius sucks

dusty vault
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Also yeah goated for reaching heroes so quick lmfao

outer flint
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common strat is to kill cow first then focus theseus

rigid crane
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i got 4 hours of playtime already

outer flint
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dam

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it took me like 15 to get to elysium

rigid crane
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i bought codex of boons

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where do i see it

outer flint
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C for pc

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and u can always check the controls

rigid crane
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yeah i dont see the boon page

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oh i have to go olympian gods first

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nvm i see it

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long knuckle
explosive upper
quake cutter
which one do i pick

fossil mountain
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wait nvm 2 hrs ago LMAO

fresh current
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Long Knuckle and Breaching Cross are the two "always goated" hammers for fists. Long knuckle is a good general tool. Allows you to safely engage flamewheels in elysium rather than running, and range=safety on fists. Breaching cross does stupid damage to armor and that's all it needs to do.

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Explosive Upper is the S-tier pick for Demeter aspect specifically, it'll do crazy one-button damage when paired with a good special boon

dusty vault
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Explosive is good too but is qay bettwr on- that yeah

graceful nebula
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Should I prioritize giving more Olympians nectar or give it to the rare npcs? I need a lot more talismans

hollow hull
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Olympians, Charon, and Eurydice

copper flint
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I heard zeus was the strongest god, but why is that? None of his abilities seemed especially good, especially on comparison to others like daedalus or aphrodite

livid ermine
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depends on the weapon though

copper flint
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ah, i've been using spear for the most part

livid ermine
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It's decent if you get the flurry jab hammer but honestly there are also better alternatives on spear

fresh current
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It isn’t that Zeus is flat-out the best god; It’s that when Zeus boons are slotted where they’re meant to be (fast attacks), their strength tends to scale up way, way higher than many other god setups without requiring much thought

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For instance, optimal fist and rail gameplay really can boil down to ā€œfind epic Zeus boon, mash attack and win game 5headā€. It isn’t really that Zeus’ damage outclasses other gods (though it kind of can), it’s that you can get a Zeus build online that absolutely shreds with exactly 2 epic boons (attack and jolted)

hollow hull
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Tbf Zeus is a contender for best god since there’s very few builds in which Zeus isn’t strong

copper flint
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i feel like I should forfeit the run I'm doing. All the way in asphodel and i'm yet to be offered a single attack buff. My cast is strong and my special is good, but normal attacks doing 25 per hit makes it feel so tedious it isn't fun

hollow hull
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And what boons do you have rn

copper flint
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dionysus cast, ares everything else

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ended up getting offered ares attack which applies doom, but it doesn't seem to help much. I am still not dealing much damage

frozen cedar
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I started to play Hades 1 yesterday, and today i finally beat Hades, this game is so wholesome

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I did it using the Bow with bones

copper flint
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congrats

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i reallly like ares special, but for normal attacks I like to be in the enemy's face so the doom doesn't help much there

copper flint
copper flint
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How do I deal with the bull of minos when he charges at me? I can't seem to dodge fast enough to escape

outer flint
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or dash through him

copper flint
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Didn't realize I could do either of those things. Ty

cedar delta
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Might as well repost this:

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  • Dashes give you iframes. Important for dodging attacks and avoiding damage
  • Dash-Strikes are super important for doing damage quickly on most weapons, but they remove your iframes
  • Olympians' keepsakes are super important for shaping your builds. Gift Olympians Nectar ASAP
  • Standard keepsake rotation is
    • important Olympian's keepsake #1 ->
    • important Olympian's keepsake #2 ->
    • Hourglass/Acorn ->
    • Acorn
  • Quick-hitting weapons generally take boons that deal flat integer amounts of damage (ex: Zeus, Dio). Slower, harder-hitting weapons take %-based boons (ex: Aphrodite, Artemis). Most builds focus on either the Attack, Special, or Cast and focus on 2-3 key boons and level those up via Poms
  • Hermes and Chaos boons are very potent. With Hermes, seek out Hyper Sprint + Rush Delivery or extra dashes
  • Boon rarity doesn't matter much for most boons. Exceptions include Hermes's boons and Ares's Doom
rigid crane
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none of which are olympian gods

somber frigate
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If it can’t use zeus well on attack/special, then it can definitely make smouldering air

rigid crane
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which olympian do i gift nectar to first

gaunt mulch
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What does it mean that theres a lock icon next to hades heart in my codex? IOm trying to understand why im missing a keepsake

random sage
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Keep an eye on your prophecies

gaunt mulch
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ok ive gotten to the actual credits but ill keep goin

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ill cehck that out

random sage
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deal, and it's normal

gaunt mulch
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does the greater evasion boon mean you have a chance to dodge when hit, and becuase you dodged you wont be hit?

hollow hull
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Yeah

gaunt mulch
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thanks team

fresh timber
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I joined cus I think there is a bug where I choose the boost in the mirror which gives me a second chance every room doesnt work

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but the basic revive one works

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idk why

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oh wait nvm, I have to buy it first

fresh timber
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I got it

frozen cedar
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If i defeat the final boss with each one of the weapons, this gonna give me something?

grave prawn
outer flint
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new player channel is usually for people to use up until they reach the credits

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not clear their first run

gaunt mulch
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What is good for using aspect of nemesis

outer flint
misty wave
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i have two diamonds now ... should i get the court musicians sentence ... >:]

hollow hull
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Basically anything works. Shackle if you don’t get a good attack boon going into aspho

rigid crane
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should i invest in ||zag shield|| or ||zeus shield||??

random sage
rigid crane
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i wasted like 2 titan blood already

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😭

random sage
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no such thing as wasting

rigid crane
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i spent on unused weapons

random sage
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yep, you should have like 240 titan blood total from bounties alone

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  • prophecies + styx shop
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i maxed out all aspects + maxed some other things and still have 90 something titan blood to spare

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still have i think one last bounty missing

random sage
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when you clear it with a new weapon

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from meg

rigid crane
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isnt that like 6

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12

random sage
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and broker can trade for titan blood

rigid crane
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aw man whats a broker

random sage
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in house of hades lounge, guy on right

rigid crane
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ive only seen one titan blood in shop

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but i didnt have enough coins

random sage
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happens

copper flint
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Died to the bull again. So annoying

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I think I would've won if I had that second death defiance. I was close.

rigid crane
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oh wow she has sisters

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i learned all the attack pattern for nothing 😭

somber frigate
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Last I checked bounties leave you lacking like 60-70 titans blood

random sage
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from other sources too

somber frigate
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can’t remember how many prophecies give you

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fishing and black market trading or styx shop are ~required iirc?

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But you do end up with a surplus because it’s infinitely renewable

rigid crane
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how do i beat the second stage miniboss?????????

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he throws rocks while the other one constantly stomps u

glossy turtle
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Bruh. This games curves are so good. I love the story in-between them.

dusk python
rigid crane
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what does diamond do

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WHAT

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U CAN SWITCH ALL THE TRAITS IN THE MIRROR???????????????????/

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i thought only some have 2 versions

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???????

somber frigate
rigid crane
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is chaos worth gifting nectar to

rigid crane
somber frigate
# rigid crane what does diamond do

Can be used for some works orders, mostly used for getting different Orpheus lobby music, and can be traded up to titans blood at the merchant shade in the lounge

fresh timber
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should I switch ares's special ability epic boon to atremis's special ability heroic boon?

fresh timber
graceful nebula
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Is there anybody specifically it’s worth giving nectar to after you give everybody one?

grave prawn
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preferably not the olympian gods since iirc they don't really have any quest or cool dialogue

dusty vault
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In terms of "benefits"
||6 characters have an extra gift when giving them ambrosia|| and ||maxing the olympians is required for the epilogue||

graceful nebula
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Is there any especially strong recommendation for how to spend your first roughly 25 titan blood? I was thinking of just seeing what the higher ranking speedruns use then levelling those aspects

rigid crane
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I BEAT THE ||THIRD|| BOSS LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO

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RAHHHHHHHHH

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how do i get past the dog

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i beat one of the tunnels but i still cant get past him

outer flint
rigid crane
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so i have to beat every tunnel..?

outer flint
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not necesarily

rigid crane
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😦

outer flint
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u just gonna pick right

rigid crane
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i want ti avoid skull ones

outer flint
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its a 50% chance you get it in 3 tunnels

rigid crane
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also i thought the anvil thing let me pick

outer flint
rigid crane
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turns out its random

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kinda messed my build

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😭😭

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im so cooked

outer flint
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believe

rigid crane
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my gun special became a rocket

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😦😦

dusty vault
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Rocket bomb is good

rigid crane
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i died to ||hades||

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awwwwww

fresh current
# graceful nebula Is there any especially strong recommendation for how to spend your first roughl...

Favorite weapon?

Nemesis is strongest for sword, but Poseidon is strong effect for 1 blood

Achilles is strongest for spear, the rest are meh but zag functions for cheap.

Zag shield is excellent for 5 blood. All shield aspects are strong, particularly Zeus and Beowulf.

Zag bow is a 5-blood monster. All bow aspects are top tier in their own right.

Zag fists have a good passive buff but it’s mostly just base fists which is just fine. Talos is a nice investment for 1 blood just to get the meathook attached to your special. Demeter fists are probably the strongest aspect, 10/10 burst damage. Gilgamesh is mid, disappoint yourself at your own leisure.

Zag rail is fantastic for 5 blood. Add Zeus attack, win games. Eris rail is flat out one of the best weapons in the game. Hestia is unusual but has high damage and is a great choice for harder postgame runs later on. Lucifer rail is an oddball but it still works ok, just overshadowed by the other 3

graceful nebula
somber frigate
somber frigate
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The second tunnel you go down has a 54% chance of having it, then like 23% for the third tunnel, and lower odds for fourth and fifth

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so you always have to go down at least 2 tunnels

misty wave
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should i spend my 5 blood on weapons now or should i wait until i get more ...

somber frigate
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Feel free to spend it as you get it

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Blood is infinitely renewable

misty wave
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is it ? i thought it was pretty rare / limited for early game

somber frigate
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You can technically max out every aspect before beating Hades once… it’d just take a long time

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the three methods of getting more blood outside of bounties and prophecies aren’t exactly time efficient

misty wave
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i thought you ran out of blood (in earlygame) after beating meg with every weapon

somber frigate
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you can trade up every metaresource aside from ambrosia to get more titans blood, can fish for more in the overworld (N/A prior to beating Hades), and can get one from styx shop for like 1200 obols 50% of the time

misty wave
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ive never seen it in the styx shop :0 also ya i cant fish yet cuz i dont have the fishing rod unlocked yet </3

somber frigate
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Mmm

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Might as well spend blood to make blood if you’re having it rough escaping for more

misty wave
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ive never escaped yet </3 my farthest chamber is literally 34 so ...

somber frigate
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There are a few aspects like nemesis, zeus, & hera that are pretty effective regardless of their level

misty wave
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ive heard a lot of good things about nemesis .. i might purchase that one first

somber frigate
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If you like using sword there isn’t a reason not to

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It’ll probably end up being your go-to aspect for it

misty wave
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whats our thoughts on cursed slash (i just got it at the very start of a run)

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(also i have 150 hp)

somber frigate
misty wave
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... i see ;^_^

somber frigate
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The big gripe I have w/ it is it doesn’t apply to standing strikes

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So most of the time it ends up just being a max hp down w/ little to no benefit

grave prawn
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cursed slash isn't that bad
it's just that the other sword upgrades are so good that it pales in comparison

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you pretty much always have a better hammer option

misty wave
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that makes sense :0

somber frigate
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2 hp isn’t fast enough recovery if you were using the standing strike combo to make up for the added damage you’ll take from using the standing strike combo

misty wave
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also is it just me or are the chaos boons usually not that worth it ??

hollow hull
misty wave
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damn . i must have really bad luck or i dont understand them well because every time i get one im like "... why did i come down here"

hollow hull
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Cursed slash Arthur will get the reccy trust

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It depends

somber frigate
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If you want to get good use out of curshed slash you have to be standing striking, so you deal less damage and put yourself at higher risk to take more (and drag out the fight)

hollow hull
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Attack and dash strike are usually very worth it

somber frigate
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This is a nem build

hollow hull
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Cursed flurry nem šŸ¤”

grave prawn
somber frigate
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Chaos usually has a boon or two that’ll massively benefit your build, and even if you don’t roll them, you can still get quite a few of the miscellaneous boons that are still useful, just not as crucial to your build

grave prawn
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the ones that make darkness rewards worth more are always W šŸ¤‘

somber frigate
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As someone who’s still like 150k darkness off of unseen one I can agree tizomg

hollow hull
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šŸ—æ

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It’s ok I’m like 100k off still I think

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I rarely complete runs

somber frigate
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I got a new save file on steam & it’s nowhere close to even getting the first rank

hollow hull
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Didn’t know switch was your main platform

steady lark
somber frigate
#

I left it at home when I went off to Uni

hollow hull
#

How

somber frigate
#

so I bought Hades on steam like a month into the semester bc it was on Sale

steady lark
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2nd round

hollow hull
#

There’s a 2nd round?

steady lark
#

No

hollow hull
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Or just diff save file

steady lark
#

I'm just counting down

hollow hull
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Oh makes sense

steady lark
somber frigate
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it’s fun to start a new save file

steady lark
somber frigate
misty wave
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is administrative priviledge good to get ?

fresh current
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It’s mostly an upgrade for story, it won’t directly impact your strength run to run. Get it when it’s convenient for you

misty wave
#

i love just sitting in asphodel and listening to good riddance

dusk python
misty wave
#

also oh my godd minotaur is TOUGH . im getting there tho šŸ’Ŗ

frozen geyser
copper flint
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Died to the final boss, but at least I made it there.

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athena refilling death defiances was very nice

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and patrocleus as well

glossy turtle
#

Holy bajeebus what a great game. Just got past first big boss twice in a row, I am loving how it isn't a repetitive game each attempt. Big thanks for this fact btw. Dynamics in replay really making the game better

lyric lintel
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Hi

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Anyone here?

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It’s dead silent

outer flint
#

did you have questionos?

lyric lintel
#

Yea

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I’m new so idk how to build my mirror of night yet

outer flint
#

how new?

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do you have most of the sectioons yet

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Typically you want greater reflex then you just try and max out death defiances

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none of the other mirror upgradaes change as much as those 2 do

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then I'd go boiling blood

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and that's pretty much it

lyric lintel
#

I played last night new

outer flint
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then try and get as many keys/darkness you can

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prioritize keys over darkness and darkness over most things, unless you haven't seen a room symbol before(new)

lyric lintel
#

Okay…

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Btw should I send my currents stats to you?

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Wait I don’t have image perm

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Do I use infernal soul with boiling blood?

hollow hull
#

Usually infernal makes more sense

lyric lintel
#

Anyhow rn I got
Max.Shadow Presence
Max.Chthonic
Max.Death Defiance
Greater reflex
Max.Boiling blood
Max.Thick skin

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The ones not mention has 0 levels in them

lyric lintel
hollow hull
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No harm

lyric lintel
#

Okie

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Btw is golden touch better?

hollow hull
#

No

lyric lintel
#

Deep pockets then?

hollow hull
#

Yeah

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Gold is just that much more valuable at the beginning of the run

lyric lintel
#

Ok

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Anyway my fav build rn is the nuke lance XD

somber frigate
lyric lintel
#

How?

somber frigate
#

If you send it somewhere else on discord, you can copy the image link. Alternatively you can use imgur

lyric lintel
#

Oh

somber frigate
#

I have a personal server w/ just me for sending images that I can copy

lyric lintel
#

Can I join?

somber frigate
#

but you could always just dm your photos to stickybot

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bc they won’t care zaggrin

somber frigate
lyric lintel
#

Oh

somber frigate
#

Stickybot is just as easy because they’re always here

hollow hull
somber frigate
#

you can just click on stickybot & and dm them the image and then copy it over

lyric lintel
#

I can’t copy it

outer flint
#

right click

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and hit copy

somber frigate
#

When you right click on the image

lyric lintel
#

Mobile

outer flint
#

hold ur finger on it

somber frigate
#

Hold the image

outer flint
#

:(

lyric lintel
#

There’s only copy link for some reason

#

Is it cuz it’s my own image

somber frigate
#

That’s it

outer flint
#

thats the one

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copying link is how you post the image

lyric lintel
#

No

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Wait can you see the image or nah

somber frigate
#

Sometimes it takes a second

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For discord to render an image link

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I usually just keep clicking it till the option pops up

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Or directly tapping on the image and then holding it should bring up seperate options

lyric lintel
#

What heinous acts HAPPNED here for image to be banned

somber frigate
outer flint
#

nothing

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it's precautionary

outer flint
#

is this the mobile version of Hadaes?

#

everything looks so big

lyric lintel
#

I DEAD ASS bought Netflix

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To play hades

outer flint
#

crazy

lyric lintel
#

Worth it

outer flint
#

deep pocklets and infernal soul are good to masx out

lyric lintel
#

Okay

outer flint
#

the further down the list you go(except for the last upgrade) the upgrades get less and less important

somber frigate
#

You can skimp out on pstatus and olympian favour

lyric lintel
#

They suck?

somber frigate
#

their alternative options are more important

#

you’ll be able to unlock a green side to the mirror soon enough

outer flint
#

do u see the thing on the left?

#

the ><

outer flint
somber frigate
#

Oh they do

#

yeah

hollow hull
#

Lol

somber frigate
#

swap pstatus and olympian favour to the green side

lyric lintel
outer flint
#

if u hit {>|<} it swap the upgrade to a different one. each has upgrade has an alternative version

#

ong i can't type today

lyric lintel
#

Oh okay

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Both of their alternates are better?

outer flint
#

yes

somber frigate
#

Yes… that is why we’re telling u to swap them

outer flint
#

gnerally

lyric lintel
#

So everything so far is correct?

somber frigate
#

generally

outer flint
#

for where you are in the game, yeah

somber frigate
#

Like the shadow presence and death defiance swaps are later game upgrades

outer flint
#

like really late game

#

has anyone ever gone that far on the mobile version of hadees?

somber frigate
#

Regular late game imo

somber frigate
outer flint
#

how is ||32 heat || regular late game?

somber frigate
#

how is it not?

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Late late game is everything beyond 32 heat

outer flint
#

i suppose

novel swift
#

I mean, there is a mobile sub 6

lyric lintel
#

Huh

#

I think I may finally get my first escape this run

somber frigate
lyric lintel
#

NO

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I WAS SO CLOSE

#

Bro 😭

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I though I won

outer flint
#

get baited

lyric lintel
#

Got send back to lobby

outer flint
#

you'll probably beat him in the next 5 runs

lyric lintel
#

Immma go Aspect of Zagreus and just go nuke town

outer flint
lyric lintel
#

Spear

outer flint
#

exploding launcher is pretty good with thast

#

hope for the best with hammer luck

lyric lintel
#

Should I reroll until I get launcher if I spawn with hammer?

#

Or is it fixed

outer flint
#

the first part of run is fixed

lyric lintel
#

I see

outer flint
#

hitting give up doesnt reset, it only resets when you die

lyric lintel
#

So if I die repeatedly…

outer flint
#

you'll spam runs for like no reason most of the time

lyric lintel
#

Faster to play and pray

hollow hull
outer flint
#

mb

hollow hull
#

C1 and maybe c2 but you’ll almost definitely increment rng past that

lyric lintel
#

Huh??

outer flint
#

chamber 1 and chamber 2

lyric lintel
#

Everything else rng?

hollow hull
#

There’s a more technical way run rng is determined, but for your purposes, all you need to know is that c1 will not change if you give up

outer flint
#

I.E. if u start a run with aphrodite and u hit give up

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u still get aphro

lyric lintel
#

Does that mean I am can give up and bring a keepsake to upgrade the boons?

outer flint
#

yes? i guess you could

#

you usually do that anyway

somber frigate
lyric lintel
#

But the 3 boobs won’t change at all huh?

#

Boons*

hollow hull
#

Shouldn’t yeah

lyric lintel
#

I see…

dusk python
somber frigate
#

although if you pop on a different god’s keepsake they’ll be different

lyric lintel
#

Wdym?

outer flint
# lyric lintel Wdym?

if u read the description on the keepsakes, they say that it guarentees a god's boon will apear, and that it has an increased % to be rared

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So if i start a run with no keepsake, and i see a zeus boon and hit 'give up'

lyric lintel
#

Ahh

outer flint
#

if I pick zeus keepsake then that boon will be the same, but with a higher % to be rare. But if I pick Ares keepsake, it will be an Ares boon with increased chance

hollow hull
#

If you pick a non god keepsake, it’ll be whatever the seed has inherently

lyric lintel
#

That’s neat…

#

What’s the best start for aspect of Zagreus then?

hollow hull
#

Tidal dash or ares attack

#

Or Zeus attack

#

Oh wait which weapon

lyric lintel
#

Spear

#

The one where it increase our special attack

hollow hull
#

Ah yeah so you’re gonna want to ignore the special buff and start tidal dash

outer flint
hollow hull
#

Look for flurry jab or serrated point, preferably flurry

lyric lintel
#

Ohhh

somber frigate
#

otherwise just start w/ tidal dash

outer flint
#

aspect of zag on spear is kindad meh imo

graceful nebula
somber frigate
#

It’s a balance between hades and achilles where you can do either a strike build or a special build

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as opposed to achilles which is purely strike and Hades which lives and dies by explosive launcher

misty wave
#

my game crashed midrun 😭

#

i hope it saves

steady lark
#

depends

misty wave
#

it crashed like. midchamber

dusty vault
#

Unless you are on console

misty wave
#

i got all the way to elysium with an awesome bow i hope it saved 😭 games not even booting up now

#

phew it saved

#

STUPID MINOTAUR GRAAGHG

copper flint
#

Tried lambent plume and I love it

#

imagine it would be even better if I was better at the game, and once I get it to 3 stars

#

and it forcing me to play more aggressively is definitely better for keeping me from being extremely careful and slow in every room

copper flint
#

any reason to check other passageways before fighting ||hades|| if i've found the satyr stack

dusk python
sweet brook
#

Although you risk losing hp in doing so

#

So majority of the time it's not worth it

dusk python
#

i end up doing it a lot because i almost always have all 3 DDs left going in so i don’t need to be overly conservative with my health

lean tendon
#

Hey, im playing hades with a friend of mine currently and he is really struggling a lot. He now had like 25-35 runs and still hasnt beaten hades meanwhile I’ve beaten him on my 6th try. He cant really gain any valueble resources rn either bc he mainly needs titan blood which he already got with the weapons he has access too.

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He got to hades like 3 times the first time almost beating his first phase.
I also told him that he had a second phase after which he was kinda shocked

steady lark
#

Took me 90

lean tendon
#

What was ur problem?
When looking at his stream it seemed like he mainly had problems with not understanding how to dodge properly. Could u tell me how u overcame ur problem?

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Ty :)

steady lark
#

One sec I'll get on pc

steady lark
#

used this a lot was my hades bible

hollow hull
#

Anywhere from 20-80 is normal

#

And it doesn’t really matter at the end of the day

steady lark
hollow hull
#

Same

lean tendon
#

Ty guys

grave prawn
#

i reached the third area at my 3-4 attempt and i still did my first successful run at attempt 17

#

the third and final bosses are a massive step up in terms of difficulty, it's normal šŸ‘

hollow hull
#

Most people’s first clear is lucking into a good build and playing ranged/mashing

#

Very little skilled gameplay present. That comes later with time

rigid crane
#

i lost with 5 dashes

#

šŸ˜‚

steady lark
#

been there

cedar delta
#

So many spoilers in that message for this channel zagshock

copper flint
#

sorry I didn't think mentioning who the end boss was counted as a spoiler

hollow hull
copper flint
#

ah, ok ty

viscid basalt
#

hi should i go for the spear or shield first?

#

I have 4 keys but idk which one i should go with

#

i

dusk python
#

whichever seems more fun to you

viscid basalt
#

is it pretty easy to get keys

#

and are there more weapons or just the 4

dusk python
#

yes

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to both

viscid basalt
#

cool

dusk python
#

you also might consider saving your keys to level up your mirror

viscid basalt
#

i mean i'm pretty good i just got to the first boss

#

i died but i got there

#

i went with the shield because i have 5

#

so i have 2, and then just 2 keys for the spear

dusk python
#

again it might also be worth working towards unlocking the next set of mirror upgrades

outer flint
dusk python
#

is it? i feel like i did it the other way, maybe because i was fine with using the same weapon for a while

outer flint
#

after the first mirror upgradae for 5 keys it just becomes not that important

dusk python
#

oh i was very specifically talking about that first upgrade

outer flint
#

well in that case

#

personally, id recommend getting sheild or spear -> then get mirror upgrade -> then getting rest of weapons

viscid basalt
#

it's fine, got the spear

outer flint
#

spear is my fav weapon

#

shield is considered the best for new players, but they're all relatively equal in viability

glossy turtle
#

What kind of things does "god mode" do? I only received a damage resist 20% but I'm assuming that it affects more than that? Pro and con?

#

Been playing without it this whole time but now I just want to grind a bit before taking on Asphodel all the way (kept dying lol)

dusty vault
#

Caps at 80%

outer flint
#

doesn't it also slow down enemies?

glossy turtle
#

So wait, you just have infinite lives in game?

outer flint
dusty vault
glossy turtle
#

Ohhhh nice. Does it reset when you turn off god mode or can you build it up and it stays maxed?

dusty vault
#

Stays

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It can't never go back down so that's also kind of an issue

outer flint
#

only way to reset is a new file

dusty vault
#

If it gets too high and thus too ez

glossy turtle
#

Interesting mechanic! It's not like I'll use it forever cooldoge

#

Just for a few runs to get the enemy mechanics down and go back to normal

outer flint
#

personally I'd just use it for the story

#

half of getting used to mechanics of enemies is getting used to the damage they deal

glossy turtle
cedar delta
#

I've seen God Mode build some terrible, terrible habits, so there's that

outer flint
#

same

#

like just tanking dmg cuz their percent has gotten too high

#

sometimes people become dependant on the dmg resist

glossy turtle
#

I like a challenge so that won't likely be me

#

Besides, we can't multiplayer so tbh having that is just a bonus relic

glossy turtle
#

Oh man, I see what you were saying, got to 3rd world on the one run pretty quickly. Gained some good stuff tho so that's what I was hoping for. Gonna do it twice more and then take off the god mod

oak berry
#

just beat the game for the first time

#

kinda surprise i didn't use any of my death defiance

lyric lintel
#

Chat do I get Gods pride or Legacy? And fated Authority or fated persuasion??

somber frigate
#

the rarity boost from Pride is more often more useful than the duo/legendary chance up, and being able to reroll your boon choices (and wells and shops) into better options with Persuasion is so much more useful than rerolling doors

#

being able to reroll Hermes boons alone make Fated persuasion better than Fated authority, and then you factor in the 11 other things it lets you reroll

lyric lintel
#

Are hermes boons that good?

hollow hull
somber frigate
grave prawn
#

(if you're good at dodging)

lost tendon
#

hi all, how do i open the codex? whenever i hit the button, it doesn't seem to want to open. is there a prerequisite i need for it?

#

XD lol. silly bot. i AM asking about h1

lost tendon
random sage
dusk python
random sage
#

oh yeah, the upgrade comes after

somber frigate
#

It just makes sure it’s own message is always visible in chat

steady lark
#

This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to ⁠h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

grave prawn
viral karma
#

hi i recently switched from keyboard to controller do guys recommend some specific settings/binds to change? did u change somethin

somber frigate
#

learning cast on a more convient button (like the triggers) will help if you ever want to use Hera or Beowulf, & I know plenty of ppl beef with default reload

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(Although I do find default reload just fine)

outer flint
viral karma
light geode
#

Hello, i'm a new player and i currently on my 30 try and i can't kill the 3rd boss, the duo, i don't know how to deal with them, i try many thing, many weapon but it's just too hard, any advice maybe ?

somber frigate
#

(I might be in and out, almost ready for a Christmas dinner w/ family)

light geode
somber frigate
light geode
dusty vault
#

wait that's the old compilation

light geode
#

Well, i have understood that since i fight them but usually, i lack damage so much and also, i feel like, the buff from the gods i got, are usually not that great

copper flint
#

The only thing that feels worse than getting 2 awful choices is getting 2 incredible choices

#

Having to take darkness vs. gems is annoying. Having to choose between a chaos gate and a daedlaus hammer is agonizing

glossy turtle
#

How do you acquire more titans blood? Is it just beating each realm with one of the weapons?

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Also, anyone got any tips for aegis shield? Seems like it's got some potential but it's all player skill šŸ˜‚

outer flint
glossy turtle
thorny sorrel
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Who should i slay first theseus or asterius i want to complete champion of elysium achivement

glossy turtle
outer flint
lyric lintel
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Chat how do I beat dad

outer flint
lyric lintel
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I tried every weapon 😭

outer flint
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what keepsake are you using?

lyric lintel
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The butterfly thing

steady lark
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sisyphus

steady lark
lyric lintel
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It has 50% damage boost usually by the time I got there

outer flint
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no

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no

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no

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its not worth

lyric lintel
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Is it bad??

steady lark
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yeaaah\

outer flint
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im assuming you keep it on the whole run

lyric lintel
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Yes

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Like until the very end

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Even in boss stages

outer flint
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😭

lyric lintel
outer flint
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usually first 2 areas are god keepskaes that relate to your build, 3rd & 4th are sometimes both acorn

lyric lintel
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Huh??

outer flint
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im not to sure about 3rd

lyric lintel
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I never used a god keepsake šŸ’€

outer flint
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BRUH

lyric lintel
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Hell I don’t even have one other then Zeus

rigid crane
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gift nectar to gods

lyric lintel
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So I wasn’t supposed to use 10 to buy diamonds?

rigid crane
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i think

outer flint
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a basic run might go something like: pick fists -> zeus keepsake -> zeus atk -> static discharge -> swap to poseidon keepsake -> tidal dash

outer flint
rigid crane
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šŸ‘

lyric lintel
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What’s the best Strat for spear then?

outer flint
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other weapons are harder to outline builds for, cuz bare fists kinda only has 1 build

lyric lintel
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Wait scratch that just what’s the best thing in general

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I need to beat hades ass

outer flint
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i know for most people its easiest with sheild

rigid crane
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put spoiker

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sooiler

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spiker

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..

lyric lintel
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Lmao

outer flint
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do you have ||aspects||?

lyric lintel
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Ye

outer flint
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Zeus' sheild is pretty simple

rigid crane
outer flint
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it was my first 2 clears

rigid crane
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or just anything in general

outer flint
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zeus sheild with zeus on special is really good

rigid crane
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i like gun/shield

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bow asw

outer flint
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bow is my goat

lyric lintel
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If only someone can send a pic

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And show me their build

rigid crane
lyric lintel
outer flint
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not need lol

lyric lintel
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YOU CAN BLOCK????

rigid crane
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idk how to continue after zeus special

rigid crane
lyric lintel
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OH MY GOD I THOUGH YOU CAN ONLY DASH 😭

rigid crane
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if u bothered to read the texts when u equip a weapon

lyric lintel
rigid crane
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gun

outer flint
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basically u just pom static discharge to the moon cuz it scales rly well

rigid crane
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is it worth using poseidons thing just fir tidal dash

outer flint
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yes

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omfg tidal dash is the goat

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its like the only good dash

rigid crane
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atehna

outer flint
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mb

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1 of 2 good dashes

rigid crane
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ye

outer flint
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my brain isn't fast today

rigid crane
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which weapon has high base dmg other than bow

outer flint
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but anyway, in the earlier 2 areas it is worth using your keepsake to get 1 boon

outer flint
rigid crane
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i was using hermes the entire timeMelGrin

rigid crane
lyric lintel
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Hermes dash is pretty fun

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1 click go burr

rigid crane
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hermes keepsake

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i got epic dash before

lyric lintel
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Oh

rigid crane
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i had 5 dashes

outer flint
rigid crane
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still died to ||hades||

lyric lintel
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Anyway imma start a new run guide me people

lyric lintel
rigid crane
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cuz i had no idea what i was doing

lyric lintel
outer flint
rigid crane
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i just dash and die

lyric lintel
rigid crane
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bow