#h1-for-new-players

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dusty vault
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Use her keepsake if you have it

deft heron
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yeah that's kinda why i wanna find her again

deft heron
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im finding the first phase of the ||hades|| fight to be generally a bit harder than the 2nd, should i try to ignore the extras while still dealing out damage to the boss instead?

broken girder
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Imo they are pretty ignorable unless it’s those awful shield thingys

sweet brook
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Archers are generally worse than shields

deft heron
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the shields are probably the worst enemy in the game to me so far, still on pretty low heat though so maybe it'll change

broken girder
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They die while he transitions to second phase anyway

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I meant those things that cast an invulnerability shield

cedar delta
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I hate the shielded archers going all like "huh! huh! huh!" and launching a billion arrows/second

sweet brook
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Depends on your dps tho, if you have high dps then ignoring the adds is fine

broken girder
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And ddash helps a lot

sweet brook
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But if you don't have a lot then you have to be more mindful

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It's generally just mostly vibes tho

broken girder
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You can also kill one after another during darkness

deft heron
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won the fight anyways but my deaths during the fight are definitely more often on the 1st phase, im starting to get to where i consistently still have all 3 revives by the time i get to temple though

gaunt dawn
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i got all the rewards from having 1 heat

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how do i get more now?

stoic raven
gaunt dawn
stoic raven
gaunt dawn
stoic raven
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the bounties are always blood diamond ambrosia ||blood||

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if you claim an already claimed bounty, itll just give darkness

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by "new" they just mean restocked

gaunt dawn
gaunt dawn
stoic raven
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you can get more of them

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up to 20 heat

cedar delta
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I like how you replied just to say "sooooo"

stoic raven
# gaunt dawn i cant get more of this?

heat bounties work like this:
killing a boss gives a one time bounty. if you kill them again, youll get darkness instead. you can "restock" these bounties by upping the heat levels, where youll then get the bounty for the next heat level, up to 20(then its always darkness).

so if i kill meg at 0 heat, ill get blood. then each time after that on heat 0 ill get darkness
if i up the heat, itll give me the blood bounty for heat 1, even if i set the heat guage to 60

tight flower
stoic raven
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yes, 20 for each weapon

gaunt dawn
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but i die after teseo

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no matter how much i raise the bar i cant restock the items?

tight flower
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you need to do a repentance run sorta yeah

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you get darkness at bosses you've already conquered though

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so it's not all bad

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never enough darkness

stoic raven
gaunt dawn
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i see, you need to clear a run in order to restock the rewards

gaunt dawn
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how can i show my love and support for the game?

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besides giving a good review on steam

sweet brook
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They have merch on fangamer

gaunt dawn
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so cute

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it would be fun if there was a plushie of hades lol

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and the plushie would say things like " i feel humilliated "

hushed knot
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i just got hades

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like a month ago

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i still have a lot of combos to learn

deft heron
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my plan for every run usually just boils down to "yeah i could probably survive doing this" and sitting at near death for 2-3 chambers before getting healed back to do it again

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i could probably do great with actually reading up on what gods work well with what

cedar delta
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You'll learn quickly given your IQ!

regal yoke
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I know the best aspects are pinned but where do the ||hidden fourth ones|| fit in?

final dune
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spear one is ok

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shield one is the best aspect in the game

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rail one is pretty good

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and bow one is very good

regal yoke
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Are the rail and bow ones the best in their class or are there better?

sweet brook
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hidden rail is def not the best in their class but it's not because it's weak, it's because eris and hestia are just much stronger

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hidden bow is weird in the sense that like

final dune
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bow can be strongest for some types of play

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but hera beats it in others

sweet brook
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i wouldn't say it's the best but i also wouldn't say any other bow is completely better than it

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yea

regal yoke
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Also is there a way to reset my Titan blood? Wanna invest in different aspects

sweet brook
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not really

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the only way you can reset is if you bought/upgraded an aspect, get partway through a run and realize you dont like it, then hit give up

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but otherwise, all purchases are final

regal yoke
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Dang. Is it possible to get enough blood to max them all?

stoic raven
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yes

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once youve beaten the game once, therell be a super easy way

regal yoke
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I have beaten it once

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Just getting back into it tho

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What should I do about keepsakes and companions? Gonna max all my keepsakes but what should I use when they’re all max?

stoic raven
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generally its god->god/tooth->god/tooth/acorn/hourglass->acorn

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you can also substitute tooth for collar

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and god for purse

regal yoke
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Is god each different god or going back to the first again?

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And are the slashes after bosses

stoic raven
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the slash means different options

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for god, its gods which are crucial to your build

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so like zeus shield would want zeus and maybe aphrodite

regal yoke
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Oh ok

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When would you switch? Before the final boss?

stoic raven
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merciful end(athena and ares duo) would want ares and athena

stoic raven
regal yoke
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Oh ok

stoic raven
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the only keepsakes you would ever keep across biomes are ones you want to level, meme ones(for meme runs like boonless), tooth, acorn, and a few others

regal yoke
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Don’t keepsakes lock after you switch tho?

dusty vault
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yeah

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god keepsakes are kinda useless to keep for more than 1 biome as the "next boon will be x god" only works once

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you only keep the rarity bonus which ain't much

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stuff like acorn you keep them through ely and styx cuz they work multiple times

regal yoke
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Oh ok

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What should I do for companion?

stoic raven
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||meg. if grinding, sisy||

regal yoke
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Ok cool

gaunt dawn
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aquiles or hades for spear

faint umbra
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I like achilles

sweet brook
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Achilles is a lot stronger than hades spear

gaunt dawn
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Im in a victory streak of i don’t even know how many

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But I’m just winning everytime

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It’s so annoying having to do everything for a piece of lore ( but also fun )

sweet brook
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there's a win streak counter on the victory screen lol

gaunt dawn
languid spear
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Any tips for defeating ||Hades|| guys? I reached him on surface 3 times but still could not beat himzagsnooze

gaunt dawn
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and whats exactly the problem

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like an specific attack?

languid spear
gaunt dawn
cedar delta
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Fight near the two big rocks near the mid-left and mid-right of the arena. Time your dashes and dash into the circular swing such that your iframes eat the damage.

languid spear
gaunt dawn
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you can inflict curses to make the guy slower

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or weaker

languid spear
gaunt dawn
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if you fight near the rocks he will miss many attacks

cedar delta
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Invincibility frame

languid spear
gaunt dawn
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also when you are using a dash

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dont spam attack

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if you dont attack you will get more iframes

languid spear
gaunt dawn
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and dont panic

languid spear
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Time to go and get killed again.😆

leaden whale
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what is the best aspect for the sword

cedar delta
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Nemesis

gaunt dawn
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what are some good pacts for beginners?

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i did everything with extreme measures 1

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should i level it up to 2?

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or do another one

broken girder
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Em2 is fairly free imo

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So is td2

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You might wanna get used to fo it seems hard at first but it gets easier when you’re used to it

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And that’d be like 12 heat already?

gaunt dawn
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if a God only offers me like

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3 common boons

stoic raven
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commons arent that bad

gaunt dawn
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if i use a reroll is there a chance to get a higher rarity boon?

gaunt dawn
stoic raven
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only minimum rarity is kept between rerolls

gaunt dawn
dusty vault
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Just offset with poms

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Or do a funny and just get ||rare crop||

stoic raven
dusty vault
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Aspho and beyond miniboss can be common

stoic raven
dusty vault
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Is rare (heh) but still

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Only tart has 100% rare

stoic raven
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elysium is no longer a paradise

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imagine going to elysium and being sad you didnt get into tartarus

gaunt dawn
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its a good thing this build only requires a single boon

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heroic zeus main attack or aphrodite epic main attack?

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hera bow

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i think i will go for zeus since i already have aphro cast

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which is the only thing i need for the run

deft heron
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is there any hint at all as to what chamber has the satyr sack

sweet brook
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Nope it's all rng

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Guaranteed not to be in the first one tho

upbeat spoke
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I wonder when/how the game decides where to put the satyr sack.

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is it when you enter last chamber in each tunnel?

languid spear
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but maybe it was pure guess

velvet chasm
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damn i have like 100 hours and I JUST found out

faint umbra
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Nope, they are talking about the second biome npc

velvet chasm
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ahh gotcha

dire river
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isn't the satyr sack always (or to a high % maybe) in one of the mini boss chambers?

dusty vault
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Nah

dire river
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(am new to hades fandom so not sure about the terminology)

dusty vault
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If you've seen people take it is because they have double the reward/are faster and safer than normal chambers

neon quiver
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unless tony

dire river
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i've seen myself take it because i could have sworn it gets you the sack faster

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never watched other ppl play

dusty vault
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Fair but yeah, not higher chance

patent meteor
open forum
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i wish hades was multiplayer

leaden whale
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If it was I could totally see thanatos room style kill competitions being a feature

open forum
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Now that u sed that imagine Hades 2 with co - op and pvp 🤩🤩🤩

leaden whale
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I don't see pvp working that well tbh

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Co-op maybe but not pvp

open forum
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Lol 🤣

gaunt dawn
raw coral
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Might as well not have anyone as P2 at that point imo

cedar delta
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What if you could play as Dusa and go "psss psss psss" at everything

deft heron
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are all companions given from characters you find inside the house?

cedar delta
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Yes

coral slate
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Just started the game unlocked all weapons on pedestal up to the rocket launcher also my spear is up to aspect of hades and just want to ask how to beat Theseus and the bull? Any cheese? Or I probably can do it and it's just a skill issue who knows

dusty vault
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And for hitting theough the shield
Wait for spear throw and hit him on retreat or stand next to him to bait the spin attack, dash through it and hit him, you should be at enough distance for another spin attack and repeat

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Also dashes arw fully invincible vut the iframes are removed if you do any other action (most commonly dash strikes)

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Oh yeah for the rush attack from asterius just stand next to a pillar and dash through him at last second

coral slate
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Would you recommend and especially good weapons for him? Or anything works in this game

dusty vault
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Anything works

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Shield/ranged weapons are inherently safer though

coral slate
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So like rocket launcher and shield?

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Also spear has quite a good range

dusty vault
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Spear weakness is its need for good hammers for dmg

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Shield too depending on aspect

dusty vault
modest cave
viscid notch
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Can be said for the majority of weapons

grizzled escarp
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I just beat my first run earlier today and only got the game like a week ago, not only is the story good but the gameplay just keeps getting better xd

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It's just things like the sword and gun that I struggle the most with, idk how you're supposed to use them

viscid notch
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For the rail it's pretty enjoyable with a dps dash like Tidal dash. And a good skill to learn is to cancel your reload animations with the dash/special/cast

grizzled escarp
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I didn't think Poseidon was that good to get boons from because he always knocks the enemies away which makes you lose combos or dps you could've gotten without knockback

dry sluice
dire river
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didn't poseidon turn someone into a woman one time and it ended badly

midnight cape
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which is the most high skill and high risk weapon?

final dune
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the best stuff in the game is generally not very risky

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perhaps achilles

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luci if you count that

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if you dont require it to be decent there are a lot of aspects that take a lot of skill and are very risky and also suck

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stuff like talos

midnight cape
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the heartseeker seems pretty high skill no? cuz of the power shot mechanic

dusty vault
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Is a rhytm game basically

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Just practice a bit with skelly and then it comes natural

sterile mica
noble sage
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why is it that literally 80% of the doors i find they are blue? like im not getting any olympian god boons whatsoever it feels like..

stoic raven
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theres this neat little thing that helps you a lot, its called ||dark foresight||

gaunt dawn
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do you get a ||reroll dice|| if you buy a key instead of gettin it as a room reward?

stoic raven
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no, buying things do not trigger the contractor effects(besides darker thirst)

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also, upgraded rooms(with a skull and arrows) do not give extra

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so an upgraded key room will give 2 keys and 1 reroll

noble sage
stoic raven
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youll want to max the 3rd to last, make sure its on the flip side
to get to the flip side, click on a talent in the mirror

noble sage
sweet brook
gaunt dawn
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guys i did it

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i got the credits

sweet brook
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gamer

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you can now graduate to #h1-discussion and not have to worry about spoilers lmao

gaunt dawn
noble sage
sweet brook
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I mean yeah you're right a lot of the doors are blue because you don't have dark foresight lol

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It's one of the most influential mirror upgrades

lilac kestrel
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Hi I am planning on getting the game but my left click sometimes doesn't register properly. Is there an option to rebind the left click to something else?

faint umbra
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yes in the controls menu you can rebind everything, but i think menus will still require left-click

lilac kestrel
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Okay, thank you so much. I can use the trackpad for that.

lilac kestrel
faint umbra
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in the menu? nope

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you may need to click and drag but i dont think thats a necessity either

final dune
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i believe you can just place the cursor and click for sliders

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and everything else is just a click

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but you can also just use wasd in menus

faint umbra
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oh yeah, and if you have a controller you can use it, but it seems that youre a laptop and mouse gamer

glossy finch
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how do I unlock the keyhole heart in the reputations?

lilac kestrel
sweet brook
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it's probably totally doable but might be a bit weird lmao

glossy finch
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I have chaos and athena both capped on hearts, nectar nor ambrosia increases their hearts and they still have hearts to gain

sweet brook
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you have to complete their favor to unlock the heart

glossy finch
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their favor

sweet brook
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yeah

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it'll come by playing dw about it too much

glossy finch
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why doesn't Hades give a 4th currency type?

velvet chasm
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why does it need to?

restive portal
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Darkness, keys, gems, nectar, ambrosia, diamonds, titan blood ... All seem like currency to me.

little jetty
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what is considered out of the new players chat?

raw coral
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End boss onward

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if you are past, you can likely move to the other channels

coral slate
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i wanna ask

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im just mindlessley dash striking like

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should i wait before dashing or?

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my combat is a bit mindless

final dune
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if you're new it's fine

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you develop better habits over time

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i actually asked the same question almost a year ago today

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.

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i beat the game what now

wooden dirge
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kinda insane going from beginner question to getting a sub-5 in a year

coral slate
dusty vault
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Dash striking removes your iframes so that's what you have to think most of

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Gotta dodge? Just dash

coral slate
dusty vault
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Yeah

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Your dash is fully invincible and doing any action removes the iframes instantly

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If you are feeling fancy you can dodge and use attack at last second of your dash to still get a dash strike

coral slate
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are chaos deal worth it?

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i mostly get ones that just give me more loot which i dont think is worht my hp

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is there a chance of actually good chaos boons

viscid notch
# coral slate are chaos deal worth it?

Almost always yes. It's a room skip and if what you get is bad you can always take one with a manageable curse. Lots of weapons scale very well with Chaos

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You can consider not taking a Chaos if it extends the biome of it's too close to a biome boss which means you'll carry the curse to the fight which might get you killed if it's bad enough

coral slate
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FINALLY

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WON MY FIRST RUN

dusty vault
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Gg

noble sage
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Can you get multiple duo boons involving the same god?

dusty vault
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Yeah

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Some cast related duos can block the other from appearing but most are fine

worldly swallow
last root
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Do god keepsakes ensure that you will always get their boons? ie. Owl pendant guaranteeing that I will only get Athena boons?

I assumed that it meant my very first boon would be Athena, but I’ve only been getting Athena boons since I equipped the Owl Pendant.

dusty vault
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That's just luck

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Is only first boon

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You can see a 1 under the keepsake if the "force next boon" is still in effect

last root
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Alright, thanks!

restive portal
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And things like Hermes or Hammers can still come first.

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And if you go into the next region it doesn't refresh. You still get a better chance of better boons from that god, if you get their boons, but nothing is forced.

frank junco
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how to defeat hades

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what is the best and worst weapon

steel nymph
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Depends on personal play style but the shield gives you an extra layer of protection. Least popular weapon according to a tumblr poll I saw is the rail

frank junco
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rail:?

steel nymph
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It’s one of the later unlockable weapons

frank junco
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i unlocked all the weapons tho

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till the gun thingy with 12 ammo

steel nymph
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Basically the best weapon will depend on how you prefer to play

steel nymph
frank junco
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infernal arm

steel nymph
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Yep, Exagryph: the Adamant Rail

frank junco
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oh

steel nymph
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If you want to get through safely and slowly then the shield is your best bet

frank junco
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when i dash strike with the shield it makes me slide for some reason

steel nymph
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But for quick effect application, the fists are good

frank junco
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i love the spear

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its too good

frank junco
steel nymph
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The spear is a good all rounder but can be a bit janky with the controls - I like it

frank junco
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ion like the bow tho

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the bow is too hard 4 me

steel nymph
steel nymph
frank junco
steel nymph
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Yeah depends on luck - the good thing about the fists is that you have to learn enemy attack pattens so you can time your dodges right

frank junco
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nice

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i got like 3 death defiance

steel nymph
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It also has some of the quickest attack cool-downs

frank junco
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the champions of elysium is easy to beat with the spear if you got exploding spear with ur special

steel nymph
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The goal is to be able to beat them with any weapon & hammer - good start though if you can find it easy with one

frank junco
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i defeated them using a spear and exagryph

steel nymph
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Nice

frank junco
steel nymph
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I’d recommend trying out the flurry jab hammer if you can find it - it’s great fun

frank junco
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i also love that flurry jab thingy with the hammer

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i always try to get it

steel nymph
broken girder
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I think spear is pretty difficult to play without flurry jab

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It’s the most core thing about it

dusty vault
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Flurry jab or exploding + charged is basically mandatory for spear

frank junco
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its easy 4 me

frank junco
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i dont like the charge up of the special so i try to get explosive spear

dusty vault
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Achilles can get away from hammers by doing casts though

frank junco
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what

dusty vault
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And hidden can do funny spin

broken girder
still nacelle
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Massive spin quick spin is viable on hades

broken girder
frank junco
broken girder
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And then you go for hunting blades

frank junco
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hunting blades.?

dusty vault
broken girder
still nacelle
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True, but it’s a pretty decent aspect

broken girder
frank junco
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oh

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cool

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never got it

dusty vault
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Then yeah what hypnos' said

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Tho you can use other casts too

broken girder
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Yeah, also the the ares legendary helps a lot

frank junco
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guys opinion on
dash-strike hits 3 times but -25 dash length (daedalus hammer on spear)
BUT
hermes dash and get sturdy 100% for 0.5 sec after each dash

dusty vault
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Serrate is aight I think

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I don't like it bouldy

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It also messes with flurry

broken girder
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Yeah I think that hammer would go better with greates reflex rather than hyper sprint

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Unless you got rush delivery too

dusty vault
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Can't go wrong with hyper into rd

broken girder
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Never can

dusty vault
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At worst is still dmg reduction

frank junco
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is saving coins crucial for the end part with like 6 different stuff at charon's shop

broken girder
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There can be nice stuff there

dusty vault
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Don't depend on it for any build

broken girder
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But you shouldn’t refrain from buying stuff you need midshop

velvet chasm
dusty vault
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If you want the blood/diamond there you don't need to save the entire run either

frank junco
dusty vault
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Work orders

broken girder
frank junco
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oh

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cool

dusty vault
steel nymph
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(Plus one other)

dusty vault
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Specially duos cuz they sell for 410 coins

frank junco
broken girder
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Legendaries also go for a lot

frank junco
broken girder
steel nymph
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Btw if my message order doesn’t make sense it’s because my signal is very spotty so apologies

broken girder
dusty vault
frank junco
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so duo is basically legendary?

steel nymph
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Woah that took a long time to send

frank junco
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nice

broken girder
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I think

dusty vault
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In short yeah

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Game rolls for either at the same time

steel nymph
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To enable a duo or a legendary you usually need 2-3 boons from 1 or 2 gods so yeah similar rarity

frank junco
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cool

dusty vault
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For duos the easy answer before you get the codex upgrade for most duos is
1 core boon (attack special cast dash) from X god
1 core boon from Y god

broken girder
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Generally duos are a lot better for builds than legendaries and they are easier to get bc getting the same amount of boons from 1 god needs more luck with rng than the amount of boons from 2 gods

frank junco
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wait

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there are legendary boons that are not duos?

broken girder
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There are few builds that depend on legendaries most of the time it’s just an improvement, however the majority of builds really depends on duos

dusty vault
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Duos are called duo boon in games, green border

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Legendaries are legendaries, orange

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Duos focus in a mix of both god effects, legendaries just improve some aspect of the god

broken girder
frank junco
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damn

dusty vault
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Low tolerance (duo aphro-dio) allows for hangover to stack 3 more time if the enemy has weak

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Meanwhile dio legendary makes enemies take +60% more dmg if they have hangover and standing on the AoE of his cast

twin lantern
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is there any way to guarantee a specific god helps you?

viscid notch
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It's only for olympian gods and does not include hermes

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The keepsake will have a 1 under it meaning youre guaranteed one boon by that god.

twin lantern
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is hermes supposed to be a rare god for a boon?

upbeat spoke
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you can only get 2-3 per run

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Hermes boons don't behave like the other ones

frank junco
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FINALLy

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I BEAT HADES

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I HAD A WHOLE SET OF JUST ARES BOONS

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LETS GOO

mighty elm
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ay nice#

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now do it again 9 more times

frank junco
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WHY

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😭 😭

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DAT SHI IS HARD ASF

mighty elm
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have you heard of investments?

frank junco
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uhhhh

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no

mighty elm
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aka treat mirror as a bank

frank junco
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how do i send pics here

mighty elm
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and put your life savings in it

frank junco
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i did

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👽

mighty elm
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@frank junco heres what i do tht may or may not help ya out a good bit

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start with purse keepsake

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get from hypnos as 1 nectar

frank junco
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HOW

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dayum

mighty elm
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then after the fury equip skellys keepsake

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aka free 150 gold at 3 stars plus a 4th DD

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have you got fishing unlocked?

dusty vault
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Should spoiler this btw

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Also gg

mighty elm
dusty vault
#

|| on both sides of whatever you wanna spoiler mark

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Or on pc highlight text, right click and press the eye icon

mighty elm
#

ohhh ok cheers

frank junco
#

lol

frank junco
mighty elm
#

and i repeat AVOID FORGETTING THE FISHING ON SURFACE

frank junco
#

uh

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👽

mighty elm
#

you will punch yourself in gut over it

frank junco
#

wwwhy

mighty elm
#

ya know those hard to get items?

frank junco
#

what

mighty elm
#

trade a basic fish from there and it makes it worth it

dusty vault
#

The items that bosses drop

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Blood/diamond/ambrosia

frank junco
#

@mighty elm how do i ||bring back persephone back home|| <- spoiler 4 the game

mighty elm
#

if you value your time you will try catch the fish

frank junco
#

like how many times

dusty vault
#

||10 times total||

mighty elm
frank junco
#

DAYUM

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😭

mighty elm
#

its easier as you farm it

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i beat hades with losing 1 DD maybe 2

frank junco
#

how do i get more of that titan red thingy sack to upgrade my weapons?

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i need em

mighty elm
#

i just hate theseus dear olympus

mighty elm
dusty vault
# frank junco how do i get more of that titan red thingy sack to upgrade my weapons?

How do I get more blood
-beating the first boss for the
first time with a weapon will net you one blood.
-final boss drops another + after that you unlock the best way to farm blood.
other sources:
trading for it at lounge (1 -ambrosia for 1 T.blood is always there and sometimes. -15 keys for 1 blood which is super good)
list of minor prophecies
-Charon may sell one blood for 1200 gold at the last area shop

mighty elm
#

and charon sells a boss drop for like 1200 garunteed at styx each run

#

not worth unless you dont plan to beat ||hades||

dusty vault
#

Is not guaranteed

dusty vault
#

He can sell a diamond too

frank junco
#

yeah

dusty vault
#

Also spoiler name of final boss @mighty elm

mighty elm
mighty elm
dusty vault
#

Now that you escaped btw you have the main method for more bounties

frank junco
#

fwsjfres

mighty elm
#

btw whats best way to farm nectar?

frank junco
mighty elm
#

which trades to prioritise?

dusty vault
#

So you know how beating bosses with the same again just drops darkness

dusty vault
frank junco
#

oh

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rip

dusty vault
mighty elm
dusty vault
#

||a bunch of difficulty modifiers in short version, which works this way, you fill it to what the game tells you, for now with the weapon you escaped with, would be 1 heat||

mighty elm
#

btw pc < xbox for hades

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legit struggled on hydra even on xbox

#

i sweep it on pc (trial and error ofc)

dusty vault
#

||once you select anything to fulfill the 1 heat all bounties are refreshed for that weapon, meaning you can kill the bosses again, and once you kill dad again you can go to 2 heat and so on||

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||if you die mid run the bosses you already collected the bounties will drop darkness but you can't move on to heat 2 until you finish reclaiming the other bounties||

mighty elm
#

but i can respect asterius he is loyal and noble i give him that, but theseus is just a plain douche

dusty vault
mighty elm
#

like bros ego rivals zues like dam

limpid nimbus
#

ong

twin lantern
#

is the gun any good

final dune
#

yes

sweet brook
#

It has like 1 specific build and if you don't build it that way then it's kinda bad tho lmao

somber frigate
twin lantern
#

god is rsi a real problem with this game

#

i got hermes +2 dashes and now my wrist hurts fighting ||theseus||

somber frigate
#

actually you would have to be, I can’t see any way to get wrist issues dashing on controller

twin lantern
#

yes i'm kbm

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maybe i ought to play contorller

#

this is legit worse than playing path of exile this is crazy

sweet brook
#

maybe try dash on left shift

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i never had any wrist problems playing on kbm, but that's mainly because i rebound dash to left shift as soon as i started playing

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im no anatomy expert, but it feels like the pinky is less attached to the wrist than the thumb so it might be fine? dont quote me on that lmao

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granted a lot of people play with default binds, but to each their own

twin lantern
#

i think i'll just play on controller, this game seems the type where you'd want to

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at least i have a controller, even if it's just a switch pro

sweet brook
#

fair enough then yeah

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if you have one then go for it

#

kbm and controller are both equally good on hades tbf

#

it's just player preference

twin lantern
#

i'll admit i was focused on trying to survive the ||thesus|| fight (which i didn't, even with divine dash kekw ), but what exactly is the plan to deal with the two?

stoic raven
twin lantern
#

i've kinda given up on the melee weapons tbh

#

i take WAY too much damage

stoic raven
#

little tip:
dashing gives invincibility
dash striking removes the invincibility from the dash

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so if you want to dodge on any weapon, dash, then dont attack until youre safe

twin lantern
#

i have proven time and time again that my melee dps window timing is very bad OMEGALUL

sweet brook
#

for the heroes fight, try to stick around the pillars and/or walls

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that way you'll have cover from the spear throw and you can bait the bull charges into the pillar or wall

#

focus down the bull first

twin lantern
#

only game where i can do well are games with proper parry mechanics to block damage while holding forward

sweet brook
#

and the rest of it, just try to remember attack patterns and be patient

stoic raven
sweet brook
#

same

twin lantern
#

i can't bait charging units to hit terrain for whatever reason

#

am i supposed to dash through the unit?

stoic raven
sweet brook
#

you can also dash through the unit yeah

stoic raven
#

for asterius its understandable as his charge is drunk

sweet brook
#

dash to the side or through, but you generally have to like

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make the timing pretty close

#

if you dash through the pillar too early, the bull could go around it

twin lantern
#

no i have to get better Desire

sweet brook
#

it do be like that

twin lantern
#

elysium keeps destroying me

#

fun game though, i think i like it better than dead cells thanks to deterministically choosing your weapon before you start the run

sweet brook
#

this game is also a lot easier than dead cells lmao

twin lantern
#

how are you supposed to use the sword, by the way? easily my weakest weapon and i don't think i even have the first titan blood from it kekw

sweet brook
#

special -> 2x dash strikes -> repeat

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empty dash when necessary to avoid damage

#

have you unlocked aspects yet or not yet

twin lantern
#

you mean the weapon upgrades? yeah

sweet brook
#

not technically upgrades, more like different versions but yeah

#

if you want to make use of the sword, nemesis is a good sword aspect to invest in a bit

#

the optimal sword combo works great for it, essentially a 100% uptime on more crit chance

#

and lets you have more build flexibility into crit builds

#

poseidon sword is also not bad if you want to play sword without playing sword

twin lantern
#

i think i'll stick to gun and bow for my upgrades

#

those have been the most fun for me

sweet brook
#

fair enough

twin lantern
#

am i correct in assuming that your casts usually aren't supposed to be your main source of damage?

#

i find myself picking general upgrades to attack/special, and by the time a powerful cast shows up i don't think i can justify investing boons into it

sweet brook
#

the only use case for them most of the time is boiling blood

#

and depending on what cast you happened to pick up and the situation, just general aoe lmao

#

cast builds on the right aspects can be very strong tho

#

even without the right aspect, if you get like hunting blades or lightning phalanx, it'd still chunk pretty significantly without too much effort
the problem is that you'd generally have to focus more resources into that, but if your strategy is "random bs go" then it could work

somber frigate
somber frigate
#

otherwise your weapon should be able to make use of itself a lot better

#

unless it's like chaos shield or zag sword where the actual usefulness of the aspect itself is dusa

final dune
#

yeah

#

but also cast builds on the good aspects are the strongest builds in the game

coral slate
#

people unironically use cast?

#

i mostly dont even press it

#

for whole segments

final dune
#

just because you ignore it doesnt mean its not good

#

spoiler obviously

coral slate
#

||4 boons||

final dune
#

you pick them up and click them

coral slate
final dune
#

oh thats speedrun modpakc

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so that u dint get screwed on first boon

sweet brook
# coral slate people unironically use cast?

Some casts have good base damage and scale well with poms
Other cast builds rely on the aspect bonus like Achilles' 150% bonus to be extremely strong
One abuses bugs to be the best aspect in the game lmao

coral slate
final dune
#

thats the speedrun modpack

#

the hash

sweet brook
#

Hera is a great castpect that doesn't rely on an aspect multiplier

final dune
#

hera bad 😡

coral slate
#

how much hours yall got into hades

final dune
#

i have about 1300 or so

coral slate
#

i got like

#

17 hours

mighty elm
frank junco
#

||is the nectar bottle hard to get? (the ones that drop when you kill the elysium champions with different weapons)||

#

how to get bounties

#

and also is the nova sword good if you get like the aspects and stuff

#

i did

#

i got a ||pact of punishment idk what to do with it||

#

ahh okay ill check once i die again

restive portal
faint umbra
#

Somewhere over 600… 120 or so on epic and the rest on steam

upbeat pike
#

cba to check

broken girder
#

Probably like 70?

dusty vault
#

750+ according to switch but idk how much is afk

broken girder
#

81 I got

leaden whale
somber frigate
#

405 (or more)

lilac kestrel
#

How should I pick my boons?

jagged willow
#

144 to be exact.

broken girder
#

A few boons that are pretty much always good are splash dash and divine dash

dusty vault
#

The basic version is
Fast but weak attacks (fists, rail and flurry jab spear can also be included) go for gods that add an extra effect ro your attack (zeus, Dionysus, ares)

broken girder
#

Heavy/slow attacks use percentage boosts like arty/aphro/athena

dusty vault
#

Weapons with higher base dmg want any of the other gods (aphro or artemis ideally, highest % and crits respectively)

#

Exception to poseidon atk though

#

His attack is terrible

broken girder
#

His dash on the other hand is the one that does most damage

jagged willow
#

Artemis is probably my favorite due to the critical hit chance.

#

Plus, she's just awesome.

jagged willow
subtle wigeon
lilac kestrel
#

okay thank you guys

somber frigate
lilac kestrel
#

Am I invulnerable during bull rush?

dusty vault
#

Yeah

lofty urchin
#

good beginner keepsake? gotten to ||hades|| a couple times and second phase only once, using ||acorn|| rn

dusty vault
#

For heroes and final boss acorn works best

mighty elm
dusty vault
#

Acorn works for both

mighty elm
#

i mean hydra

#

this is on em3

dusty vault
#

Hydra em3 is the same as em2, but normally for hydra you won't have a defensive keepsake

mighty elm
#

ah yknow what i mean

#

whats the recomended keepsake

dusty vault
#

The meta for keepsakes is like
God 1 (tart) for whatever y9u wanna build > aspho is god 2 to supplement build > ely + styx one of the defensive keepsakes (tooth/collar or acorn, usually acorn)

#

If you get lucky enough to get everything you needed in tart you can do stuff like purse/hourglass to supplement your build a bit more

mighty elm
#

hmm ok got it

dusty vault
#

Taking defensive keepsakes for hydra is mostly a matter of ||really high heat where dying to the hydra is easy||

mighty elm
#

ok got it

sterile mica
#

what about taking purse into tartarus?

#

something like achilles spear is pretty adaptable i think

mighty elm
dusty vault
#

But fwiw achilles usually starts the cast it wanna builds so you get easy poms on it

#

Or speedruns start tidal dash for quick tartarus (and good poms lol)

sterile mica
#

fair

#

I'd probably take ||mom pom|| into asphodel if i didnt' need any particular god

#

which is admittedly rare

dusty vault
#

Should spoiler that one

sterile mica
#

oops

dusty vault
#

And ig there are plume/butterfly but you aren't catching me recommending these

sterile mica
#

collar and tooth are not bad if you're struggling

dusty vault
#

Ig, most new players get these as first or second anyways

#

But I'd still prefer they kept them for the later biomes

tiny acorn
#

Tooth is good until your death defiance heals over 100 (your max HP is 200+)

somber frigate
#

It provides the same service either way

tiny acorn
#

That’s what I’m saying. When your tooth is worse than your death defiance, it’s better to do something such as the collar which gives you +25 health per death defiance.

#

Tooth could be good if you’re using the other version of death defiance. I forget the name.

somber frigate
#

stubborn defiance

tiny acorn
#

Yep

somber frigate
#

It’s not good in that case because iirc it pops before your sd

broken girder
#

I think the argument here is, that into Styx you should use acorn bc those 5 hits mean more than +100
Hp

somber frigate
#

and so you lose your tooth before you lose your per room sd

tiny acorn
#

Good to know

somber frigate
#

acorn is just the defensive keepsake

#

especially as you progress farther

tiny acorn
#

It’s probably better on high heat

broken girder
#

It’s better always

somber frigate
#

which I believe should be spoilered here

tiny acorn
#

How many is it when it’s maxed

somber frigate
#

5

broken girder
#

5

somber frigate
broken girder
#

And I mean ||hades|| can do like idk 40 dmg in one move iirc

somber frigate
#

it is 40 w/ one

broken girder
#

So that could be +200 hp

tiny acorn
#

I cry every every single time I see. 72!

somber frigate
tiny acorn
#

Is that what enables the crit?

somber frigate
#

But I digress

broken girder
#

Yeah it’s def the best thing into ||styx||

somber frigate
#

yeah

broken girder
#

Unless you’re good enough to not get hit, then smth like hourglass might be better

tiny acorn
somber frigate
broken girder
#

But it’s huge if you can enter the fight with + cast or +cast damage

somber frigate
#

I mean if you’re good enough to not get hit you probably aren’t asking questions in this channel

broken girder
#

True

somber frigate
#

and then other keepsakes can be suggested

tiny acorn
#

How do I deal with poison when I’m not using range

dusty vault
somber frigate
dusty vault
#

Or just get enough dps that you can burst down a room

somber frigate
#

And back off enemies that burst when they’re dying

#

and just get gud for satyrs

broken girder
#

Poison cures when you finish the room

tiny acorn
broken girder
#

So if you’re poisoned just pause

somber frigate
#

pause the game to find where the nearest cure is

broken girder
#

And look if it’s worth to clear the room or go for a cure

tiny acorn
dusty vault
#

Also go for minibosses first

broken girder
somber frigate
#

There you just need to git gud & hold out till you get to the pot

dusty vault
#

Tiny vermin is the only real issue of them

#

And better to get practice on it anyways

broken girder
#

Tony…

somber frigate
#

They’re typically a faster safer clear

#

Unless it’s vermin

#

For a better reward

#

and a good chunk of the time you won’t even have to fight the second miniboss

#

Since it’s most likely to be in the 2nd tunnel you go through out of any of them

broken girder
#

What?

somber frigate
#

Yeah

broken girder
#

You mean third?

somber frigate
#

2nd > 3rd > 4th > 5th

broken girder
#

Oh yeah

#

Sorry mb

#

Was confused for a sec

tiny acorn
#

I think it’s something like 56% for the second one

somber frigate
#

Iirc yeah

broken girder
#

That’s what they say

#

Yet it’s always a 4-sack…

somber frigate
#

Just get better rng

#

It’s not that hard

broken girder
#

Damn I should’ve thought of that

somber frigate
#

yep

broken girder
#

Next thing you gonna tell me is not to go for heroic doom…

somber frigate
#

eh

#

Of the 3 ways you can get heroic doom

#

One has an almost 100% success rate

broken girder
#

Double boon replacement right?

#

Right?

somber frigate
#

You just need purple doom by Eury

dusty vault
broken girder
tiny acorn
#

I got a five sack on my first clear Lol they did not want me to win

somber frigate
broken girder
#

Yeah ik

#

I reset for epic doom anyway

#

And then it’s hope to get eury

outer flint
#

What's the best aspect for the fists

broken girder
#

For the most it’s Demeter

somber frigate
#

It’s Demeter.

outer flint
#

What's the best keepsake?

#

I'm using skellys

#

Rn

#

Idk what's better

somber frigate
outer flint
#

I got my first clear last night

#

I haven't played since

somber frigate
#

Generally with keepsakes you go
Tartarus: force important god in

Asphodel: force 2nd important god in

Elysium: hourglass or defensive keepsake

Styx: defensive keepsake

#

Which god it is will depend on your weapon/aspect and the build you’re working towards

outer flint
#

The last run I had the butterfly for the first 2 areas, and switched to tooth in the last 2 areas

somber frigate
#

Butterfly & plume really aren’t valuable

outer flint
#

Ok

somber frigate
#

it’s pitiful damage for lossing the control of your build

outer flint
#

What bod would be beneficial for spear?

somber frigate
#

just spear?

outer flint
#

I like it

somber frigate
#

Sorry that was a litmus test

#

Spear typically goes well with either ME or like a smair focused build

dusty vault
outer flint
#

I haven't learned anything about this fame

#

Game*

somber frigate
#

I was going to explain them then got distracted

#

so ME is shortform for Merciful End, the ares/athena duo boon

#

which drops doom immediately on deflect

#

For spear you would take ares strike, athena special and athena dash

#

And then just dash strike into enemies to instantly drop the doom

dusty vault
#

How good is ME without flurry

outer flint
#

Ah ok

#

Flurry? Is that a daedulus upgrade?

somber frigate
somber frigate
dusty vault
#

Fair

outer flint
#

Is flurry good?

dusty vault
#

Also yeah flurry jab

somber frigate
#

One of the best spear hammers

outer flint
#

Hold attack for more hits?

#

I think

dusty vault
#

Yeah

outer flint
#

Ok

dusty vault
#

And no spin

somber frigate
#

yeah but it’s essentially just double edge for spear

outer flint
#

What aspect should I use then

somber frigate
#

oh so you do have aspects

outer flint
#

I'm using punishing sweep so that would be useless

outer flint
somber frigate
somber frigate
outer flint
somber frigate
#

Hades and Achilles build differently

outer flint
#

I'm so confused rn

somber frigate
#
  • decisively indicative test
outer flint
somber frigate
#

When I said “just spear?” I was trying to poke out whether or not you knew had aspects

outer flint
#

Oh

#

I didnt know you meant that

somber frigate
#

That’s fine

#

Since it’s new players I’m cautious of giving any spoilers

#

yes those are 2 other aspects of spear

outer flint
#

If I wanted to use the ME build and also use flurry What aspect would I want

somber frigate
#

Achilles will work better than Zag for this

#

and Hades won’t work at all

outer flint
#

What does achilles do?

#

Hades is punishing sweep I presume

somber frigate
#

you can’t get flurry jab on the punishing sweep spear (aka Hades spear)

dusty vault
#

But also if you have access to flurry you don't need to out yourself through ME builds

somber frigate
#

There are more builds

#

And you can build ME on Hades

#

It’s just less effective

dusty vault
#

Also achilles
Swap after throwing the special press special again to rush to it

#

Then you get buff to your next 4 attacks/casts

#

Lvl 1 is +50% up to +150%

somber frigate
#

big boost essentially

dusty vault
#

You can still press attack to recover the spear like normal but it won't trigger the bonus

outer flint
#

This seems very complicated

#

Ngl

somber frigate
dusty vault
#

Keeping track of your charge may be annoying at first yeaj

somber frigate
#

that’s how achilles works

outer flint
#

Idk. I'll check it out later tonight when I get home

dusty vault
#

A funny thing about achilles is that its buff works on spin attacks

somber frigate
#

that should be spoilered here

outer flint
#

I don't understand what it does

somber frigate
#

It builds completly differently

#

Well it can run ME

outer flint
#

What does frost fair blade even do

dusty vault
#

It reworks the entire combo of the weapon first of all (higher dmg but slow)

#

||And its thing is that using the spin attack and hitting enemies will heal you||

#

||That's why there's the massive cut in hp||

#

not that is worth it

#

The best thing about hidden spear ||is the special, higher base dmg and pierces if you get charged skewer that's your entire build basically||

stoic raven
lofty urchin
#

what gods are best in what circumstances? i assume it depends on build but would be nice to know just what weapon they tend to work with

viscid notch
lofty urchin
#

how does the call gauge work? is it just dealing damage at all that fills it up?

upbeat spoke
#

or taking it

#

but it resets every room

somber frigate
#

There are also 2 boons that will fill it up over time and 1 boon and 1 charon item that’ll jumpstart your call gauge

honest fiber
#

What boons are good in combination with the Poseidon knock back ones

#

They're currently my favorite

#

In combination with Spear

outer flint
#

Just spear?

#

How dar into the game are you

#

Far*

honest fiber
#

I've gotten past the Bone Hydra

#

Then died pretty much immediately after

outer flint
#

Have you used titan blood?

honest fiber
#

I have some

outer flint
#

Have you spent it at all?

honest fiber
#

Nope, no clue how

outer flint
#

Ok

#

I don't want to spoil anything, I xant remember how to unlock the spending part but I don't want to spoil it

#

Don't remember*

#

Ao poseidon and spear

honest fiber
#

Dash Attacks have also been quite fun

outer flint
#

I like Artemis on the attack and poseidon on the special

honest fiber
#

I really need to utilize my special more

outer flint
#

If you get one Artemis boon you can get other Artemis boons, there's a boon from Artmeis that improves dash attack damage

#

So if you get the Artemis attack, you're almost guaranteed to gr the dash attack upgrade if you encounter Artemis again

lofty urchin
#

is there a way to get the ||boss resources like titan blood|| other than the ||merchant and killing a boss for the first time with each weapon||

outer flint
#

||yes||

#

||you have to beat the game once||

honest fiber
#

The urge to click

outer flint
#

What does your mirror look like

honest fiber
outer flint
#

You can clikc

#

It's fine

#

It's not a detailed explanation

honest fiber
#

Ah ok

lofty urchin
#

do you want a screen shot or what are you looking for

honest fiber
#

I keep forgetting to use my cast

outer flint
#

If you're a beginner then it should be small enough you can list it out

outer flint
honest fiber
#

Ayyyy my favorite

#

Tidal Dash

outer flint
lofty urchin
#

everything up until and including ||olympian favor||

outer flint
#

Lemme load up the game rq

honest fiber
#

TODAY IS A GOOD DAY

#

Tidal Dash room 1 Razor Shoals room 3

outer flint
#

I'm mid run

#

Lemme finish this holup

lofty urchin
#

im not doing anything rn its fine

outer flint
#

I can't give up

#

This should be fast

honest fiber
#

The red sword is Ares right?

outer flint
#

Yes

honest fiber
#

I don't know if I want any of his...

#

But I might

outer flint
#

What are the options

honest fiber
#

I haven't taken his boons very often

honest fiber
#

Have the option of HP or Ares

outer flint
#

What's the other door

#

Hp

#

Is better imo

honest fiber
#

Athena Room

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Attack deflect seems the best

outer flint
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It's good

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Make sure you prioritize the hammers

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Always get hammers

honest fiber
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I WISH I could find them

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I almost never do

outer flint
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There's a perk to upgrade it

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I get 2 every run and 3 somrtimes

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I did 8,000 damage holy fk

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Ome hit

honest fiber
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Ok, Meg fight

outer flint
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You just got there?

honest fiber
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Yes

outer flint
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Gl

honest fiber
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DAMMIT

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I lost second life last second

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Then won

outer flint
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Shame

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Do you have keepsakes?

honest fiber
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Wait no who's death animation was it

honest fiber
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I just got super low

outer flint
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Good

honest fiber
outer flint
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Fk

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Ignore that

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Ambrosia, do you got that

honest fiber
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I've seen it

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It's from the Singing one, can't remember her name

outer flint
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Have you collected it

honest fiber
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I've gotten it once

outer flint
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Singing one?

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Boss?

honest fiber
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No it's a god

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In the second area

outer flint
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What color

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Pink?

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Purple?

honest fiber
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Eurydice

outer flint
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Oh

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That's not a god

honest fiber
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Hm ok

outer flint
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Technically, that's a muse

honest fiber
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I thought everyone was tbh

outer flint
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Nah

honest fiber
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Actually now that I think about it yeah that makes sense

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But what ambrosia are you talking about

outer flint
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Well if you see a orange bottle as a door reward click it

honest fiber
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Ohh those

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I've given them to a few characters

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Including Poseidon

outer flint
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I'm dumb