#h1-for-new-players
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yeah that's kinda why i wanna find her again
im finding the first phase of the ||hades|| fight to be generally a bit harder than the 2nd, should i try to ignore the extras while still dealing out damage to the boss instead?
Imo they are pretty ignorable unless it’s those awful shield thingys
Archers are generally worse than shields
the shields are probably the worst enemy in the game to me so far, still on pretty low heat though so maybe it'll change
They die while he transitions to second phase anyway
I meant those things that cast an invulnerability shield
I hate the shielded archers going all like "huh! huh! huh!" and launching a billion arrows/second
Depends on your dps tho, if you have high dps then ignoring the adds is fine
And ddash helps a lot
But if you don't have a lot then you have to be more mindful
It's generally just mostly vibes tho
You can also kill one after another during darkness
won the fight anyways but my deaths during the fight are definitely more often on the 1st phase, im starting to get to where i consistently still have all 3 revives by the time i get to temple though
up the heat
i do but there arent new prizes
up it more
i maxed it all and still no new prizes
the bounties are always blood diamond ambrosia ||blood||
if you claim an already claimed bounty, itll just give darkness
by "new" they just mean restocked
sooooo
i cant get more of this?
heat bounties work like this:
killing a boss gives a one time bounty. if you kill them again, youll get darkness instead. you can "restock" these bounties by upping the heat levels, where youll then get the bounty for the next heat level, up to 20(then its always darkness).
so if i kill meg at 0 heat, ill get blood. then each time after that on heat 0 ill get darkness
if i up the heat, itll give me the blood bounty for heat 1, even if i set the heat guage to 60
wait it's only up to 20? 
yes, 20 for each weapon
so if im like at 1 heat
but i die after teseo
no matter how much i raise the bar i cant restock the items?
you need to do a repentance run sorta yeah
you get darkness at bosses you've already conquered though
so it's not all bad
never enough darkness
i forgot a tiny bit:
you have to escape, then up the heat, and then you can get the restock
i see, you need to clear a run in order to restock the rewards
yeah that
how can i show my love and support for the game?
besides giving a good review on steam

They have merch on fangamer
damn i want that cerberus plushie
so cute
it would be fun if there was a plushie of hades lol
and the plushie would say things like " i feel humilliated "
my plan for every run usually just boils down to "yeah i could probably survive doing this" and sitting at near death for 2-3 chambers before getting healed back to do it again
i could probably do great with actually reading up on what gods work well with what
You'll learn quickly given your IQ!
I know the best aspects are pinned but where do the ||hidden fourth ones|| fit in?
sword and fists ones are awful and miserable
spear one is ok
shield one is the best aspect in the game
rail one is pretty good
and bow one is very good
Are the rail and bow ones the best in their class or are there better?
hidden rail is def not the best in their class but it's not because it's weak, it's because eris and hestia are just much stronger
hidden bow is weird in the sense that like
i wouldn't say it's the best but i also wouldn't say any other bow is completely better than it
yea
Also is there a way to reset my Titan blood? Wanna invest in different aspects
not really
the only way you can reset is if you bought/upgraded an aspect, get partway through a run and realize you dont like it, then hit give up
but otherwise, all purchases are final
Dang. Is it possible to get enough blood to max them all?
I have beaten it once
Just getting back into it tho
What should I do about keepsakes and companions? Gonna max all my keepsakes but what should I use when they’re all max?
generally its god->god/tooth->god/tooth/acorn/hourglass->acorn
you can also substitute tooth for collar
and god for purse
Is god each different god or going back to the first again?
And are the slashes after bosses
the slash means different options
for god, its gods which are crucial to your build
so like zeus shield would want zeus and maybe aphrodite
merciful end(athena and ares duo) would want ares and athena
each biome
Oh ok
the only keepsakes you would ever keep across biomes are ones you want to level, meme ones(for meme runs like boonless), tooth, acorn, and a few others
Don’t keepsakes lock after you switch tho?
yeah
god keepsakes are kinda useless to keep for more than 1 biome as the "next boon will be x god" only works once
you only keep the rarity bonus which ain't much
stuff like acorn you keep them through ely and styx cuz they work multiple times
||meg. if grinding, sisy||
Ok cool
aquiles or hades for spear
I like achilles
Achilles is a lot stronger than hades spear
Im in a victory streak of i don’t even know how many
But I’m just winning everytime
It’s so annoying having to do everything for a piece of lore ( but also fun )
there's a win streak counter on the victory screen lol
4 victory streak
Any tips for defeating ||Hades|| guys? I reached him on surface 3 times but still could not beat him
spoiler that name
and whats exactly the problem
like an specific attack?
Pardon me
what do you need help with
Fight near the two big rocks near the mid-left and mid-right of the arena. Time your dashes and dash into the circular swing such that your iframes eat the damage.
not attack but like some defense tips to take lesser damage or maybe some power-up which is effective against him.
athena and hermes are good for dodging or defense
you can inflict curses to make the guy slower
or weaker
I see. Thanks👍
also do this
if you fight near the rocks he will miss many attacks
whats iframe?
Invincibility frame
Oo cool
also when you are using a dash
dont spam attack
if you dont attack you will get more iframes
hmm alright.
and dont panic
Time to go and get killed again.😆
what is the best aspect for the sword
Nemesis
what are some good pacts for beginners?
i did everything with extreme measures 1
should i level it up to 2?
or do another one
Em2 is fairly free imo
So is td2
You might wanna get used to fo it seems hard at first but it gets easier when you’re used to it
And that’d be like 12 heat already?
im excited to see what will change to lernie
if a God only offers me like
3 common boons
commons arent that bad
if i use a reroll is there a chance to get a higher rarity boon?
yeah i know
yes, same with lower
only minimum rarity is kept between rerolls
but cmon Gods you can do better
so a miniboss/||erebus|| boon will always be rare or better, and if you have exclusive access itll always be epic or better
yarn and nectar also increase the minimum rarity
Aspho and beyond miniboss can be common

elysium is no longer a paradise
imagine going to elysium and being sad you didnt get into tartarus
its a good thing this build only requires a single boon
heroic zeus main attack or aphrodite epic main attack?
hera bow
i think i will go for zeus since i already have aphro cast
which is the only thing i need for the run
is there any hint at all as to what chamber has the satyr sack
I wonder when/how the game decides where to put the satyr sack.
is it when you enter last chamber in each tunnel?
until now 3 times i have found it in my 2nd attempt
but maybe it was pure guess
wait giving nectar increases rarity??
damn i have like 100 hours and I JUST found out
Nope, they are talking about the second biome npc
ahh gotcha
isn't the satyr sack always (or to a high % maybe) in one of the mini boss chambers?
Nah
(am new to hades fandom so not sure about the terminology)
If you've seen people take it is because they have double the reward/are faster and safer than normal chambers
i've seen myself take it because i could have sworn it gets you the sack faster
never watched other ppl play
Fair but yeah, not higher chance
Nope sometimes it show up in the chambers you least except like the oble one or something
it has never been for me
i wish hades was multiplayer
If it was I could totally see thanatos room style kill competitions being a feature
Now that u sed that imagine Hades 2 with co - op and pvp 🤩🤩🤩
Lol 🤣
or just make player 1 zagreus and player 2 a little guy that does little damage and cant get boons
Might as well not have anyone as P2 at that point imo
What if you could play as Dusa and go "psss psss psss" at everything
are all companions given from characters you find inside the house?
Yes
Just started the game unlocked all weapons on pedestal up to the rocket launcher also my spear is up to aspect of hades and just want to ask how to beat Theseus and the bull? Any cheese? Or I probably can do it and it's just a skill issue who knows
Target asterius first, dodge by dashing through him instead of away
Keep yourself between a pillar to dodge spear throws (if on the open wait for the target to get really bright and dash)
Once Theseus starts the phase change is free chance for dmg cuz he can't hold the shield
And for hitting theough the shield
Wait for spear throw and hit him on retreat or stand next to him to bait the spin attack, dash through it and hit him, you should be at enough distance for another spin attack and repeat
Also dashes arw fully invincible vut the iframes are removed if you do any other action (most commonly dash strikes)
Oh yeah for the rush attack from asterius just stand next to a pillar and dash through him at last second
Would you recommend and especially good weapons for him? Or anything works in this game
(you can also use any call of you are feeling brave, as they give iframes on activation)
Spear weakness is its need for good hammers for dmg
Shield too depending on aspect
Non hestia rails play the weapon like a melee really
i think spear overall is a challenging weapon if you aren't aware of what you're doing
Can be said for the majority of weapons
I just beat my first run earlier today and only got the game like a week ago, not only is the story good but the gameplay just keeps getting better xd
It's just things like the sword and gun that I struggle the most with, idk how you're supposed to use them
With the sword you can try Poseidon aspect and focus on your cast, that'll make it quite a bit better. Otherwise you'll have to get used to dash striking, the dps rotation of the sword is usually Special -> Dash Strike x2, no standing strikes at all.
For the rail it's pretty enjoyable with a dps dash like Tidal dash. And a good skill to learn is to cancel your reload animations with the dash/special/cast
I didn't think Poseidon was that good to get boons from because he always knocks the enemies away which makes you lose combos or dps you could've gotten without knockback
might wanna check your wording

didn't poseidon turn someone into a woman one time and it ended badly
which is the most high skill and high risk weapon?
the best stuff in the game is generally not very risky
perhaps achilles
luci if you count that
if you dont require it to be decent there are a lot of aspects that take a lot of skill and are very risky and also suck
stuff like talos
the heartseeker seems pretty high skill no? cuz of the power shot mechanic
also you'll be dash-striking a lot of the time, so the shot will be faster
why is it that literally 80% of the doors i find they are blue? like im not getting any olympian god boons whatsoever it feels like..
how much of the mirror have you unlocked
theres this neat little thing that helps you a lot, its called ||dark foresight||
do you get a ||reroll dice|| if you buy a key instead of gettin it as a room reward?
no, buying things do not trigger the contractor effects(besides darker thirst)
also, upgraded rooms(with a skull and arrows) do not give extra
so an upgraded key room will give 2 keys and 1 reroll
im everything, only the last 4 arent maxed i believe
youll want to max the 3rd to last, make sure its on the flip side
to get to the flip side, click on a talent in the mirror
yeah i will check that out after my horrible run atm hah
i think you're the first new player i've seen who commented on blue laurels lmao
gamer
you can now graduate to #h1-discussion and not have to worry about spoilers lmao
yay i can finally sit on the adults table
haha i think its true cause i googeled it and nobody asked
I mean yeah you're right a lot of the doors are blue because you don't have dark foresight lol
It's one of the most influential mirror upgrades
Hi I am planning on getting the game but my left click sometimes doesn't register properly. Is there an option to rebind the left click to something else?
yes in the controls menu you can rebind everything, but i think menus will still require left-click
Okay, thank you so much. I can use the trackpad for that.
Actually, do you need to quickly left click something in the menus? Cuz I wouldnt be able to do that.
in the menu? nope
you may need to click and drag but i dont think thats a necessity either
i believe you can just place the cursor and click for sliders
and everything else is just a click
but you can also just use wasd in menus
oh yeah, and if you have a controller you can use it, but it seems that youre a laptop and mouse gamer
how do I unlock the keyhole heart in the reputations?
Thank you so much. Do you guys think I would be able to play if I used the shift key instead of the left click? Or what would you guys recommend?
it's probably totally doable but might be a bit weird lmao
I have chaos and athena both capped on hearts, nectar nor ambrosia increases their hearts and they still have hearts to gain
you have to complete their favor to unlock the heart
their favor
why doesn't Hades give a 4th currency type?
why does it need to?
Darkness, keys, gems, nectar, ambrosia, diamonds, titan blood ... All seem like currency to me.
what is considered out of the new players chat?
i wanna ask
im just mindlessley dash striking like
should i wait before dashing or?
my combat is a bit mindless
if you're new it's fine
you develop better habits over time
i actually asked the same question almost a year ago today
.
i beat the game what now
kinda insane going from beginner question to getting a sub-5 in a year
So I can beat it dash striking? Alright guess the skill issue is on me lol
Dash striking removes your iframes so that's what you have to think most of
Gotta dodge? Just dash
So if I dodge I get invincibility but striking removes that?
Yeah
Your dash is fully invincible and doing any action removes the iframes instantly
If you are feeling fancy you can dodge and use attack at last second of your dash to still get a dash strike
are chaos deal worth it?
i mostly get ones that just give me more loot which i dont think is worht my hp
is there a chance of actually good chaos boons
Almost always yes. It's a room skip and if what you get is bad you can always take one with a manageable curse. Lots of weapons scale very well with Chaos
You can consider not taking a Chaos if it extends the biome of it's too close to a biome boss which means you'll carry the curse to the fight which might get you killed if it's bad enough
Gg
Can you get multiple duo boons involving the same god?
Congrats!!
Do god keepsakes ensure that you will always get their boons? ie. Owl pendant guaranteeing that I will only get Athena boons?
I assumed that it meant my very first boon would be Athena, but I’ve only been getting Athena boons since I equipped the Owl Pendant.
That's just luck
Is only first boon
You can see a 1 under the keepsake if the "force next boon" is still in effect
Alright, thanks!
And things like Hermes or Hammers can still come first.
And if you go into the next region it doesn't refresh. You still get a better chance of better boons from that god, if you get their boons, but nothing is forced.
Depends on personal play style but the shield gives you an extra layer of protection. Least popular weapon according to a tumblr poll I saw is the rail
rail:?
It’s one of the later unlockable weapons
Basically the best weapon will depend on how you prefer to play
Yeah that’s the rail
Yep, Exagryph: the Adamant Rail
oh
If you want to get through safely and slowly then the shield is your best bet
when i dash strike with the shield it makes me slide for some reason
But for quick effect application, the fists are good
short range :(
The spear is a good all rounder but can be a bit janky with the controls - I like it
If you get a hammer upgrade you can increase the range
Fair enough
yeah but sometimes the range upgrade doesnt come
Yeah depends on luck - the good thing about the fists is that you have to learn enemy attack pattens so you can time your dodges right
It also has some of the quickest attack cool-downs
the champions of elysium is easy to beat with the spear if you got exploding spear with ur special
The goal is to be able to beat them with any weapon & hammer - good start though if you can find it easy with one
i defeated them using a spear and exagryph
Nice
best god? personal opinion
I’d recommend trying out the flurry jab hammer if you can find it - it’s great fun
Right now I’m enjoying Poseidon-Zeus builds but my go-to is Dionysus, Artemis, Zeus
I think spear is pretty difficult to play without flurry jab
It’s the most core thing about it
nice
Flurry jab or exploding + charged is basically mandatory for spear
i can play without flurry jab
its easy 4 me
fr
i dont like the charge up of the special so i try to get explosive spear
Achilles can get away from hammers by doing casts though
what
And hidden can do funny spin
Yeah but the build is infinitely better with it
Massive spin quick spin is viable on hades
true
The boost from Achilles also boosts the cast
what boost?
And then you go for hunting blades
hunting blades.?
It would be better if the debuff worked on spin attacks
After you dash to the spear with double special you get a boost for the next four attack/special/cast
True, but it’s a pretty decent aspect
yeah uh idk
Ares/arty duo boon, makes the ares cast spinning blades chase enemies
In order
Achilles aspect of the spear, replaces tour special for a rush that boost atk and cast for 4 attacks
Then yeah what hypnos' said
Tho you can use other casts too
Yeah, also the the ares legendary helps a lot
guys opinion on
dash-strike hits 3 times but -25 dash length (daedalus hammer on spear)
BUT
hermes dash and get sturdy 100% for 0.5 sec after each dash
Yeah I think that hammer would go better with greates reflex rather than hyper sprint
Unless you got rush delivery too
Can't go wrong with hyper into rd
Never can
At worst is still dmg reduction
is saving coins crucial for the end part with like 6 different stuff at charon's shop
There can be nice stuff there
Don't depend on it for any build
But you shouldn’t refrain from buying stuff you need midshop
nah not at all imo. you get decent coin from clearing the tunnels. and if you need more, you can clear an extra 1 or 2. i just spend whenever i see shop
If you want the blood/diamond there you don't need to save the entire run either
what does the diamond actually do doe
Work orders
Contractor stuff
Just get into the mindset of selling boons that aren't doing anything
(Plus one other)
Specially duos cuz they sell for 410 coins
i have a hard time selling boons since idk which one is gonna be better for me later on 😔
Legendaries also go for a lot
legendary boon?
Most builds really only need 3-5 boons
Btw if my message order doesn’t make sense it’s because my signal is very spotty so apologies
It’s like duos, you need certain boons to enable them but not another god
While it comes with practice the answer is that most boons aren't that huge really?
oh
so duo is basically legendary?
Woah that took a long time to send
nice
To enable a duo or a legendary you usually need 2-3 boons from 1 or 2 gods so yeah similar rarity
cool
For duos the easy answer before you get the codex upgrade for most duos is
1 core boon (attack special cast dash) from X god
1 core boon from Y god
Generally duos are a lot better for builds than legendaries and they are easier to get bc getting the same amount of boons from 1 god needs more luck with rng than the amount of boons from 2 gods
There are few builds that depend on legendaries most of the time it’s just an improvement, however the majority of builds really depends on duos
Duos are called duo boon in games, green border
Legendaries are legendaries, orange
Duos focus in a mix of both god effects, legendaries just improve some aspect of the god
They are two seperate rarities that have the same chance of happening, they both have requirements that differ, the main difference is, that you get a legendary from only one god, where as for duos you need two gods
damn
Low tolerance (duo aphro-dio) allows for hangover to stack 3 more time if the enemy has weak
Meanwhile dio legendary makes enemies take +60% more dmg if they have hangover and standing on the AoE of his cast
is there any way to guarantee a specific god helps you?
Use their keepsake
It's only for olympian gods and does not include hermes
The keepsake will have a 1 under it meaning youre guaranteed one boon by that god.
is hermes supposed to be a rare god for a boon?
have you heard of investments?
aka treat mirror as a bank
how do i send pics here
and put your life savings in it
@frank junco heres what i do tht may or may not help ya out a good bit
start with purse keepsake
get from hypnos as 1 nectar
then after the fury equip skellys keepsake
aka free 150 gold at 3 stars plus a 4th DD
have you got fishing unlocked?
how do you even do that anyway?
|| on both sides of whatever you wanna spoiler mark
Or on pc highlight text, right click and press the eye icon
ohhh ok cheers
idk how
u unlock from contractor
and i repeat AVOID FORGETTING THE FISHING ON SURFACE
you will punch yourself in gut over it
wwwhy
ya know those hard to get items?
what
trade a basic fish from there and it makes it worth it
@mighty elm how do i ||bring back persephone back home|| <- spoiler 4 the game
if you value your time you will try catch the fish
Beat it again
And again
like how many times
||10 times total||
||well basically i think 10 times||
i just hate theseus dear olympus
either beat fury and hades with each weapon or check broker for deals
How do I get more blood
-beating the first boss for the
first time with a weapon will net you one blood.
-final boss drops another + after that you unlock the best way to farm blood.
other sources:
trading for it at lounge (1 -ambrosia for 1 T.blood is always there and sometimes. -15 keys for 1 blood which is super good)
list of minor prophecies
-Charon may sell one blood for 1200 gold at the last area shop
and charon sells a boss drop for like 1200 garunteed at styx each run
not worth unless you dont plan to beat ||hades||
Is not guaranteed
not guranteed
He can sell a diamond too
yeah
Also spoiler name of final boss @mighty elm
he sells one of them, which isnt garunteed
my bad, i corrected
Now that you escaped btw you have the main method for more bounties
fwsjfres
btw whats best way to farm nectar?
how iz dat a spoiler
which trades to prioritise?
So you know how beating bosses with the same again just drops darkness
a blessing tbh
By channel rules anything from final boss and beyond is a spoiler
||once you attempt your next escape you'll see the pact of punishment||
lord knows that is intimidating your first time
||a bunch of difficulty modifiers in short version, which works this way, you fill it to what the game tells you, for now with the weapon you escaped with, would be 1 heat||
btw pc < xbox for hades
legit struggled on hydra even on xbox
i sweep it on pc (trial and error ofc)
||once you select anything to fulfill the 1 heat all bounties are refreshed for that weapon, meaning you can kill the bosses again, and once you kill dad again you can go to 2 heat and so on||
||if you die mid run the bosses you already collected the bounties will drop darkness but you can't move on to heat 2 until you finish reclaiming the other bounties||
but i can respect asterius he is loyal and noble i give him that, but theseus is just a plain douche
||or well, you can move on and do heat 2 but winning wi give you the rewards for heat 1, then if you do heat 2 again you would get the right bounties||
like bros ego rivals zues like dam
ong
is the gun any good
yes
It has like 1 specific build and if you don't build it that way then it's kinda bad tho lmao
ME really is universal like that
god is rsi a real problem with this game
i got hermes +2 dashes and now my wrist hurts fighting ||theseus||
Are you kbm?
actually you would have to be, I can’t see any way to get wrist issues dashing on controller
yes i'm kbm
maybe i ought to play contorller
this is legit worse than playing path of exile this is crazy
maybe try dash on left shift
i never had any wrist problems playing on kbm, but that's mainly because i rebound dash to left shift as soon as i started playing
im no anatomy expert, but it feels like the pinky is less attached to the wrist than the thumb so it might be fine? dont quote me on that lmao
granted a lot of people play with default binds, but to each their own
i think i'll just play on controller, this game seems the type where you'd want to
at least i have a controller, even if it's just a switch pro
fair enough then yeah
if you have one then go for it
kbm and controller are both equally good on hades tbf
it's just player preference
i'll admit i was focused on trying to survive the ||thesus|| fight (which i didn't, even with divine dash
), but what exactly is the plan to deal with the two?
hades isnt too spammy until you get to sword or spear, then its hell
little tip:
dashing gives invincibility
dash striking removes the invincibility from the dash
so if you want to dodge on any weapon, dash, then dont attack until youre safe
i have proven time and time again that my melee dps window timing is very bad 
for the heroes fight, try to stick around the pillars and/or walls
that way you'll have cover from the spear throw and you can bait the bull charges into the pillar or wall
focus down the bull first
only game where i can do well are games with proper parry mechanics to block damage while holding forward
shield
and the rest of it, just try to remember attack patterns and be patient
i generally perform the genius move of using zag as a wall
same
i can't bait charging units to hit terrain for whatever reason
am i supposed to dash through the unit?
dash through the terrain
you can also dash through the unit yeah
for asterius its understandable as his charge is drunk
dash to the side or through, but you generally have to like
make the timing pretty close
if you dash through the pillar too early, the bull could go around it
no i have to get better 
it do be like that
elysium keeps destroying me
fun game though, i think i like it better than dead cells thanks to deterministically choosing your weapon before you start the run
this game is also a lot easier than dead cells lmao
how are you supposed to use the sword, by the way? easily my weakest weapon and i don't think i even have the first titan blood from it 
special -> 2x dash strikes -> repeat
empty dash when necessary to avoid damage
have you unlocked aspects yet or not yet
you mean the weapon upgrades? yeah
not technically upgrades, more like different versions but yeah
if you want to make use of the sword, nemesis is a good sword aspect to invest in a bit
the optimal sword combo works great for it, essentially a 100% uptime on more crit chance
and lets you have more build flexibility into crit builds
poseidon sword is also not bad if you want to play sword without playing sword
i think i'll stick to gun and bow for my upgrades
those have been the most fun for me
fair enough
am i correct in assuming that your casts usually aren't supposed to be your main source of damage?
i find myself picking general upgrades to attack/special, and by the time a powerful cast shows up i don't think i can justify investing boons into it
most of the time yeah
the only use case for them most of the time is boiling blood
and depending on what cast you happened to pick up and the situation, just general aoe lmao
cast builds on the right aspects can be very strong tho
even without the right aspect, if you get like hunting blades or lightning phalanx, it'd still chunk pretty significantly without too much effort
the problem is that you'd generally have to focus more resources into that, but if your strategy is "random bs go" then it could work
dashing through them works perfectly fine
imo it should only be your main source of damage if your aspect tailors for it
otherwise your weapon should be able to make use of itself a lot better
unless it's like chaos shield or zag sword where the actual usefulness of the aspect itself is 
just because you ignore it doesnt mean its not good
heres a cast build for you || https://youtu.be/_a_n1mV7J1o?si=BO2nBSf_pgYC1Ghs?t=922||
spoiler obviously
||how does one get||
||4 boons||
you pick them up and click them
||no but like when i get a boon ionly get 3 options||
Some casts have good base damage and scale well with poms
Other cast builds rely on the aspect bonus like Achilles' 150% bonus to be extremely strong
One abuses bugs to be the best aspect in the game lmao
||also may i ask about those "toys" on the top right with characters on them do they have any benefitss||
Hera is a great castpect that doesn't rely on an aspect multiplier
hera bad 😡
how much hours yall got into hades
i have about 1300 or so
39.5 as of 13/12/23
||is the nectar bottle hard to get? (the ones that drop when you kill the elysium champions with different weapons)||
how to get bounties
and also is the nova sword good if you get like the aspects and stuff
i did
i got a ||pact of punishment idk what to do with it||
ahh okay ill check once i die again
About 800 I think.
Somewhere over 600… 120 or so on epic and the rest on steam
Probably like 70?
750+ according to switch but idk how much is afk
81 I got
214.6 according to steam
405 (or more)
How should I pick my boons?
144 to be exact.
It always depends on the build
A few boons that are pretty much always good are splash dash and divine dash
The basic version is
Fast but weak attacks (fists, rail and flurry jab spear can also be included) go for gods that add an extra effect ro your attack (zeus, Dionysus, ares)
Heavy/slow attacks use percentage boosts like arty/aphro/athena
Weapons with higher base dmg want any of the other gods (aphro or artemis ideally, highest % and crits respectively)
Exception to poseidon atk though
His attack is terrible
His dash on the other hand is the one that does most damage
Artemis is probably my favorite due to the critical hit chance.
Plus, she's just awesome.
I take his boons just so I can talk to him and progress my relationship with him. I purge them pretty much immediately lol 😆
couldnt agree more
okay thank you guys
If you do want pos boons, take tidal dash
Am I invulnerable during bull rush?
Yeah
good beginner keepsake? gotten to ||hades|| a couple times and second phase only once, using ||acorn|| rn
For heroes and final boss acorn works best
whats best for heroes?
Acorn works for both
Hydra em3 is the same as em2, but normally for hydra you won't have a defensive keepsake
The meta for keepsakes is like
God 1 (tart) for whatever y9u wanna build > aspho is god 2 to supplement build > ely + styx one of the defensive keepsakes (tooth/collar or acorn, usually acorn)
If you get lucky enough to get everything you needed in tart you can do stuff like purse/hourglass to supplement your build a bit more
hmm ok got it
Taking defensive keepsakes for hydra is mostly a matter of ||really high heat where dying to the hydra is easy||
ok got it
what about taking purse into tartarus?
something like achilles spear is pretty adaptable i think
i did that for a bit
It is an option if you want more randomness
But fwiw achilles usually starts the cast it wanna builds so you get easy poms on it
Or speedruns start tidal dash for quick tartarus (and good poms lol)
fair
I'd probably take ||mom pom|| into asphodel if i didnt' need any particular god
which is admittedly rare
Should spoiler that one
oops
For randomness you can also do shackle
And ig there are plume/butterfly but you aren't catching me recommending these
collar and tooth are not bad if you're struggling
Ig, most new players get these as first or second anyways
But I'd still prefer they kept them for the later biomes
Tooth is good until your death defiance heals over 100 (your max HP is 200+)
tooth’s value doesn’t change because of that though
It provides the same service either way
That’s what I’m saying. When your tooth is worse than your death defiance, it’s better to do something such as the collar which gives you +25 health per death defiance.
Tooth could be good if you’re using the other version of death defiance. I forget the name.
stubborn defiance
Yep
It’s not good in that case because iirc it pops before your sd
I think the argument here is, that into Styx you should use acorn bc those 5 hits mean more than +100
Hp
and so you lose your tooth before you lose your per room sd
Good to know
It’s probably better on high heat
It’s better always
which I believe should be spoilered here
How many is it when it’s maxed
5
5
||high heat|| that is
And I mean ||hades|| can do like idk 40 dmg in one move iirc
it is 40 w/ one
So that could be +200 hp
I cry every every single time I see. 72!
& if you get ||boiling blooded|| that is doubled
Is that what enables the crit?
But I digress
Yeah it’s def the best thing into ||styx||
yeah
Unless you’re good enough to not get hit, then smth like hourglass might be better
I’m bad at the game so I get poisoned a lot lol
Being good enough to not get hit just increases the acorns value tbh
But it’s huge if you can enter the fight with + cast or +cast damage
I mean if you’re good enough to not get hit you probably aren’t asking questions in this channel
True
and then other keepsakes can be suggested
How do I deal with poison when I’m not using range
Abuse pausing to look for the cure
Dash around the pools rather than into them
Or just get enough dps that you can burst down a room
Poison cures when you finish the room
Go on
So if you’re poisoned just pause
pause the game to find where the nearest cure is
And look if it’s worth to clear the room or go for a cure
It’s mainly the last chamber that always gets me down like 100 HP
Also go for minibosses first
Idk but I find the boss chambers to be easier to clear than the normal once
There you just need to git gud & hold out till you get to the pot
Because they are
Tony…
They’re typically a faster safer clear
Unless it’s vermin
For a better reward
and a good chunk of the time you won’t even have to fight the second miniboss
Since it’s most likely to be in the 2nd tunnel you go through out of any of them
What?
Yeah
You mean third?
2nd > 3rd > 4th > 5th
I think it’s something like 56% for the second one
Iirc yeah
see
Just get better rng
It’s not that hard
Damn I should’ve thought of that
yep
Next thing you gonna tell me is not to go for heroic doom…
You just need purple doom by Eury
The speedrun modpack looking at you
My Xbox staring at me from the other side
I got a five sack on my first clear Lol they did not want me to win
Not it isn’t
What's the best aspect for the fists
For the most it’s Demeter
It’s Demeter.
It depends on where you are
Generally with keepsakes you go
Tartarus: force important god in
Asphodel: force 2nd important god in
Elysium: hourglass or defensive keepsake
Styx: defensive keepsake
Which god it is will depend on your weapon/aspect and the build you’re working towards
The last run I had the butterfly for the first 2 areas, and switched to tooth in the last 2 areas
Butterfly & plume really aren’t valuable
Ok
it’s pitiful damage for lossing the control of your build
What bod would be beneficial for spear?
just spear?
I like it
Sorry that was a litmus test
Spear typically goes well with either ME or like a smair focused build
Swapping butterfly and plume doesn't keep the bonus
Ik
I have actually no clue what those terms mean
I haven't learned anything about this fame
Game*
I was going to explain them then got distracted
so ME is shortform for Merciful End, the ares/athena duo boon
which drops doom immediately on deflect
For spear you would take ares strike, athena special and athena dash
And then just dash strike into enemies to instantly drop the doom
How good is ME without flurry
It’s just as effective since the extra strikes from flurry don’t prok more doom drops
Yeah
Fair
Is flurry good?
Also yeah flurry jab
One of the best spear hammers
Yeah
Ok
And no spin
yeah but it’s essentially just double edge for spear
What aspect should I use then
oh so you do have aspects
I'm using punishing sweep so that would be useless
I cleared it really late I guess?
You can’t get flurry jab on Hades
You passed the litmus test like way late
What even is that
Hades and Achilles build differently
I'm so confused rn
- decisively indicative test
Wdym? Are those aspects
When I said “just spear?” I was trying to poke out whether or not you knew had aspects
That’s fine
Since it’s new players I’m cautious of giving any spoilers
yes those are 2 other aspects of spear
If I wanted to use the ME build and also use flurry What aspect would I want
you can’t get flurry jab on the punishing sweep spear (aka Hades spear)
But also if you have access to flurry you don't need to out yourself through ME builds
Also achilles
Swap after throwing the special press special again to rush to it
Then you get buff to your next 4 attacks/casts
Lvl 1 is +50% up to +150%
big boost essentially
You can still press attack to recover the spear like normal but it won't trigger the bonus
Hit special twice to get a huge boost in damage for the next 4 attacks/casts
Keeping track of your charge may be annoying at first yeaj
that’s how achilles works
Idk. I'll check it out later tonight when I get home
A funny thing about achilles is that its buff works on spin attacks
that should be spoilered here
I don't understand what it does
What does frost fair blade even do
It reworks the entire combo of the weapon first of all (higher dmg but slow)
||And its thing is that using the spin attack and hitting enemies will heal you||
||That's why there's the massive cut in hp||
not that is worth it
The best thing about hidden spear ||is the special, higher base dmg and pierces if you get charged skewer that's your entire build basically||
but quick massive flaring spin facetank is funny
what gods are best in what circumstances? i assume it depends on build but would be nice to know just what weapon they tend to work with
For slow attacks with high base dmg take % core boons such as Aphrodite Artemis Poseidon Athena. For low dmg fast attacks take Flat damage boosts such as Zeus Ares Dionysus. Some boons are generally good supporting boons like Zeus Call, Dio Call, Athena Dash, etc etc you’ll learn them as you go, if you’re looking for a specific build we can go into more details about those boons
how does the call gauge work? is it just dealing damage at all that fills it up?
Taking damage and dealing damage both fill it up, and it gets filled up more by a ton of smaller hits than a few big hits
There are also 2 boons that will fill it up over time and 1 boon and 1 charon item that’ll jumpstart your call gauge
What boons are good in combination with the Poseidon knock back ones
They're currently my favorite
In combination with Spear
Have you used titan blood?
I have some
Have you spent it at all?
Ok
I don't want to spoil anything, I xant remember how to unlock the spending part but I don't want to spoil it
Don't remember*
Ao poseidon and spear
Dash Attacks have also been quite fun
I like Artemis on the attack and poseidon on the special
I really need to utilize my special more
If you get one Artemis boon you can get other Artemis boons, there's a boon from Artmeis that improves dash attack damage
So if you get the Artemis attack, you're almost guaranteed to gr the dash attack upgrade if you encounter Artemis again
is there a way to get the ||boss resources like titan blood|| other than the ||merchant and killing a boss for the first time with each weapon||
The urge to click
What does your mirror look like

Ah ok
do you want a screen shot or what are you looking for
I keep forgetting to use my cast
If you're a beginner then it should be small enough you can list it out
I forgot too lol
@lofty urchin go to #server-roles
everything up until and including ||olympian favor||
Lemme load up the game rq
im not doing anything rn its fine
The red sword is Ares right?
Yes
What are the options
I haven't taken his boons very often
I'm at the room door
Have the option of HP or Ares
There's a perk to upgrade it
I get 2 every run and 3 somrtimes
I did 8,000 damage holy fk
Ome hit
Ok, Meg fight
You just got there?
Yes
Gl
Wait no who's death animation was it
Good
?
Have you collected it
I've gotten it once
Eurydice
Hm ok
Technically, that's a muse
I thought everyone was tbh
Nah
Actually now that I think about it yeah that makes sense
But what ambrosia are you talking about
Well if you see a orange bottle as a door reward click it
I'm dumb


