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Kinda glad I find the ranged weapons generally more fun, I have to force myself to not use the bow all the time
But pretty easy to learn.
Nothing wrong with using bow all the time if you're having fun with it.
But hey, my most successful run so far was Achilles spear going zeus/Artemis and a lot of casting
Could become a bow prodigy who knows
So I probs just need to experiment more
Spear might be my new fav weapon
Unlikely, my aim sucks that's why I use chiron 💀
Melee with long range yes please
True
Chiron prodigy
They obviously mean the tracking on the Chiron special
I know what he meant, yes.
Are there any other aspects that change how the weapon is played? Like chiron and the tracking special, Achilles spear incentivising casting etc.
Lol everyone's a Chiron prodigy until they realize there are other weapons that aren't the bow
Hera is a fun one
All of the weapon aspects are designed to be unique in some way.
Design goal for Hades was high dynamic range.
imagine if there was individual ||heat||categories for each aspect of every weapon and not just every type
mb wrong reply
Hera seems interesting from the description, just gotta figure out how to get more blood
Take chaos gates
Luckily Hera is really good at lv1 too
||Heat|| is spoilers. 
It definitely is
which god do you guys think give the best boons
Come on man
You know by now that depends on your weapon
There’s a steam guide pinned in this channel that I pull up regularly
Lady Aphrodite gives all the best boons, naturally.
she cant be the worst when ||demeter|| (just in case since some newer players might not have seen her yet)exists
so you think ||demeter|| is better than ares?
how does one get the locked heart for charon?
or is that something i have to find out
spoiler ||demeter||
you too buddy
yeahh I noticed earlier but then made the same mistake
is the last heart the favor?
oh and then do i have to use that thing i got at that boss
but yeah if you want to play around ares cores, doom basically needs merciful end (curse of longing and curse of drowning sucks) and slicing shot needs hunting blades to be good
since ||demeter|| has % boosts, it's much more versatile and can be used as a good damage boost
or the sword
any weapon works so yeah youll be fine
spear is generally better than sword but both are fine
i had been going with the spear and then did sword for one run and got my farthest run with it
with bow, you always want to dash strike for faster charge
shield kinda needs charged shot and/or levels to feel decent lmao
well I did have my best run against theseus and asterius where I only lost 23 hp in the entire fight and lost no DDS using a combination of drunk+ ||chill||. And even though I prefer other gods, aside from when I'm looking for merciful end and hunting blades, I actively had been avoiding Ares, but I didnt realize which one was worse.
and will i ever have to change my tactic of approximately "spam space directions and mouse1"
it got me past the two guys a few times
thats the main reason why i dont like the bow
because it makes me use my little brain at least a bit
howd that fail
you forgot the second | lmao
forgor
there we go
is there a way to check how much diner i've spent or do we get there when we get there
gonna have to explain what you mean by diner lmao
money
should be there on the bottom right corner at all times
that's how much you haven't spent in one run isn't it
well it's how much you have
do you have to spend the 10 grand in one run?
you can't check total count as far as i know
unfortunate
you can't spend 10 grand in 1 run
i dont even think the world record for gold in a run is anywhere close to that lmao
haelian got like 9000 something obols i think
aight i stand corrected
but also you cant spend 10k considering golden touch
and even if you do enter styx with 10k you cant spend it all lmao
yep he got 9086 at the end
also, weird question but do you actually get a lot of people asking about the hydra or is the channel description a joke
How do i get
Get what
||Companions (idk if spoiler or not)||
max bonds with certain characters
||you gotta max out your relationship with the people who give companions with nectar and ambrosia||
||meg, achilles, dusa, skelly, sisyphus, and than||
ok, thanks. gotta start the grind now
how do i beat ||theseus and the rhino||
and everything becomes so tanky in asphodel. Feels like im fighting a miniboss on everything.
The poseidon boon that causes a secondary wave when colliding with wall is extremely satistying in styx, using gun special to trigger. I think poseidon dash will also be very powerful to trigger that
Also wondering if aspect of ||lucifer|| is as good for triggering it
how do i get hades' keepsake
dialogue rng
You got to finish the game for that 
i have
Please use spoiler tags for that in this channel. 
hows that a spolier
you get keepsakes within the first 30mins of gameplay
End boss and anything onward is a spoiler here.
Why are you arguing lol.
i just need an answer for my question lmao
||You don't get his keepsake until well after you beat him, so it's a spoiler.||
Just keep whooping his ass until you can give him nectar again ( don’t forget to talk to him when you can)
Again, spoiler tags please.
ive done it 10 time and got the person who i wont say to come back
Please read channel description.
I don’t know how we do them. 
||spoiler||
Yes. ||Just need to get the right dialogue with him to give him more Nectar again.||
Basically just more talking and more runs.
willl it work if i just quit and reopen a couple of times???
Nope.
aight
Might as well collect some more bounties in the process.
what if i just kill myself in the lava
That works.
Yup. Shouldn't take long.
Goes up to +40%, but Dark Foresight is waaaaay better anyway.
Facts here
aight
MiKE wrote a great mirror guide here if you're interested: #h1-for-new-players message
cheers
||in the codex there is a lock on one of hades' hearts do i still need to do something other than beat him 10 times||
Nope. Just dialogue.
Can you keep the coins after a run?
I got this run over 1200 should I buy the diamond?
So uh
I was not expecting the final boss to have a ||second phase||
And I legitimately cant do this
Even with full health and an extra life I got smashed, ugh
No. And sure, buy the Diamond.
||Second phase|| is spoilers. 
Good luck!
my bad!
do i loose out anything from using mouse and keyboard compared to controller?
i heard ppl saying that some optimized combos r awkward on mouse and keyboard
Is there no way to proceed to the next level without claiming the boon in the beginning?
You need to pick up chamber rewards to advance, yeah.
for what it's worth i play better with kb&m as i don't use controller often
You got to the final boss??
Damn dude
Any tips for third floor boss
||keep distance from Theseus and Kill funny bull man first||
👌
||Stay away from Theseus and dodge whenever you see his targeting thingy on you, that aside it's basically a solo Asterius fight until you kill him, at which point you can just go get Theseus since he isn't too strong on his own pff
Keep in mind that Theseus will start throwing some aoes when he drops to half health, which is one of the reasons why you want to get Asterius first - so that you don't have to avoid these and the bull at once||
Yeah it’s a nightmare when that happens
||you’ll also be able to dodge asterius better with less going on cause he’s got some pretty obvious attack patterns once you get used to it||
Good luck!!
I really gotta stop rushing, I'm worried I'm being too slow to "beat" a run and then realise I literally haven't even finished unlocking all of the mirror upgrades lol
does Stygian blade dash strike counts as a thrust?
i wanna know if the hammer upgrade that gives bonus dmg and crit on thrust works on it
You don't need all the mirror upgrades for your first run that's like 80 keys in total
Oh, by that I think I've only unlocked the first 2 pages (?), up to thick skin
Yeah there's 2 more pages but it's not that necessary since it focused on rarity of boons and fated stuff
I guess, pretty sure the next set has a damage bonus thing thatd help me though
Wait hold up
Oh right yeah it's the privelaged status and Olympian favor stuff
Get those and then focus on getting darkness
Noted, I'm like one key away
So I only just realised death defiance has more than one upgrade level...
I started playing a while ago and there are some weapons that are not showing up for me, like Malphon, how do I get him?
it will be available later as your progress
coins from the dead?
Didnt know what would happen, safe to say the run didnt last long after that
that is neat
AHh oops
did you try to steal from Charon??
you can steal from charon?
|| yes ||
Stealing from Charon sounds like a bad idea
It does not, the thrust is the third hit of the standing attack combo and it’s the only thing getting affected by that hammer. Since you’re gonna be dash striking most of the time it’s not that great
Spears are for thrust?
bro what are you talking about its just "borrowing" fr
i have a dying hatred for those stupid tanky ass butterfly orbs
What do you buy in the Underworld?
15 seconds of nonstop shooting later:
out of all the ways i though i was gonna beat third level boss
||hunting blades|| was the last i expected
but it makes sense cuz i would just ||triple blade the two and just hide behind a pillar||
Hunting blades moment
noooo
||i almost killed hades on my first try. one hit away||
these ||blades are insane||
is it worth giving up ||ambrosia|| for ||titan blood||
on what
I have 1 ambrosia and two titan bloods
Idk what weapon I wanna spend it on yet
I already invested 5 into the bow which is good
But I’m gonna hold off for now
||what are companions and how do I get them||
||companions are like an extra call u can use up to 5 times per escape attempt if maxed out. u get them by gifting 1 ambrosia to 6 ppl after completing their favor: meg, than, dusa, skelly, achilles and sisyphus||
Thanks, appreciate za help
||so what do i need to do to get megs one||
||gift her nectar then wait for dialogue rng||
||how much nectar||
||i think 6||
aight ty
||how do you make orpheus sing???||
||what are aspects and how are they unlocked?||
u dont have to spoiler aspects
they’re basically different forms of each of the 6 weapons
they change the weapons playstyle is either small or large ways
nyaanyaa has a newbie aspect levelling guide
uhh i think he’s just singing
|| there’s the music stand if u havent bought it yet from the contractor||
One of the easiest companion to get is imo ||Dusa's||, it's also one of the stronger ones (||Meg, Dusa and Sisyphus's keepsakes are considered stronger||).
aight
should i bother keeping my streak or just kms reptivatly to get the right dialouges
up to u
i have a question
so if there's a boon\
and i choose not to take the boon
(like picking a shop or darkness, etc)
will my chance of finding more boons in the future increase or will it be the same regardless?
Is the ||butterfly|| damage increase global?
||i have a heart with only the bow in it but hades wont give me the option to gift him nectar, ive already given him his first one||
???
hes also giving me very dry dialouge
like ||"get along with it"||
@plucky urchin can u help?
wdym by a bow?
the puyrplw ribbon thing
uhhh could u find a picture online or smth cuz im not too sure wut ure talking abt
Regarding gifting Hades, ||you won't be able to gift him again until you make significant progress in the story||
the dialouge is so dry and no stoey is progressing
I don't mean just talking to characters more, you have to progress the story through runs
I see
any ideda how much progress?
Really depends, how many times have you finished a run successfully?
Getting to the tenth should be the goal at least
already done that
Should I go with Family favorite instead of privileged status for an Aspect of Hades spear build starting with Artemis attack?
Crit builds normally go for Family Favorite, yes.
Also, for aspect of hades debuff, does the debuff attack bonus stack additively or multiplicatively with other sources
Merry Christmas everyone! My mom just gifted me a Nintendo Eshop gift card and I could get Hades, I’ve never played it but something very important to me is repeatability
Is this game good for that ?
Really good
Additively.
Absolutely.
Best rogue like I’ve played and I’ve played it all
additevley
i got it when i reopened the game
i now have all the keepsakes but i dont have the achivement
why
The first boss tanky as hell tbh
Absolutely, was EATING damage like hotcakes
The Hydra was easier to me just off that alone
should i trade my ambrosia for titan's blood early on?
It will take a while until you can make use of Ambrosia so you can keep around 10-15 and trade everything else until you get some of the top weapons maxed out then just upgrade the rest slowly and keep your Ambrosia because that’s when you’ll start needing them
I don’t think I’ve ever died to the hydra
The fact that it doesn’t move make it a very easy target
how am i meant not to get absolutely prickled by asterius in the solo fight when he does the fast movement thing?
when its him and theseus i can go behind one of the generous room's nice and large pieces of cover
(1) get close to an obstacle (like the wall) and empty-dash away at the last moment, so he'll crash into it trying to turn away; or (2) get between two obstacles (like the pillars) and empty-dash through Asterius at the last moment, so he'll crash into one of them trying to turn around.
forgive me, im a loser, what's an empty dash?
Dash without using other inputs like attack/etc
oh like a neutral?
As those remove iframes from dash
how to get burner and seeker
i think ive figured out theseus anyways
seems like you just keep blamming him until you get the target on your head and then you get behind something and start the cycle again
the biggest issue is that i always get prabloopt in elysium before the fight because the flarbly guys that can respawn take most of my health
also
does there ever come a time in a young child of the underworld's life when they should switch off whatever keepsake it is that gives them loads extra health
Keepsake meta is god 1 > god 2 > Hourglass or Acorn > Acorn.
For each region, respectively.
HP is nice, but you get no control over your build.
ive just been kinda going with the flow
ive only got one run so far that actually plapamt me on the boon side of things
Update, just did another run and got the final boss down to like 20% health before I accidentally stood in a laser and got my hp melted
Was running an aphrodite/Artemis sword build and it was going insanely well
damn that sucks hard bro
yeah, i'll get the W eventually
It do be like that
on the plus side i got enough for a second death defiance stack and unlocked the 3rd set of perks (privileged status/dark foresight)
so my next run where i get a good build going will probably be The One
hey guys why cant i upgrade my weapons with titan blood? i havent upgraded anything and it wont give me the option to
ok
Just download Hades tonight because I liked Pyre and Bastion, and I like Greek mythology. I played for a few hours, the art is gorgeous. The gay hasn’t happened yet, but I’m willing to wait patiently. Dionysus showed up though, and it was great. He’s kind of an inspiration for me.
you're waiting for "the gay" to happen?
The gay.
love the gay
happens to the best of us
where can I find some
@mods can we get this pinned
If the meta is two god keepsakes for Tartarus and asphodel, is it possible to choose two gods bad enough to like actively harm your escape attempts
cause I have picked two gods who probably aren't good (that's always how it goes for me) specifically because I like them and not their boons (Artemis and Athena)
and idk if I have the heart to switch off
Not really. At least you'll have some kind of idea of what build you want to go for.
hi guys, how do i unlock aspects and upgrades for my bow?
i see stuff like hera and chiron but i see no option for me to go into those upgrades
You gotta spend some of that titan blood on the aspects but I can't remember the specifics of it.
gotcha
yeah rn i dont see the interface to unlock those options to use the titan blood
Does stygian soul synergize with boiling blood?
im assuming not but wouldn't mind finding out 
Wassup gamers
Got this game with some money I got for Christmas
Just played my first dungeon and respawned and am a bit worried this is going to get really repetitive
The story is awesome and my character is badass, but I’m getting a little turned off by the combat system and am wondering what other aspects the game has other than the dungeon crawler.
For me I’d say the biggest aspect that brought me back to the game is the excellent writing and wanting to see the story through
After completing most of that I’ve gotten good enough at clearing that it’s seeing how fast I can go or how good of a build I can get
Although personally I enjoy the gameplay loop a lot these days
I love the story.
The dialogue makes me want to hear more.
Since each line is different and not repeated.
is there a visual representation for curses and/or stacks of curses on enemies?
Same as bloodstones?
I'm pretty sure there should be.
There are a few description that talk about stacks but I never saw how many I add to an enemy.
Probably my bad eyesight
Will need to look harder then.
Thanks
Shoals is like wavy stuff a their feet, jolted is electricity running around them
But they're a hit hard to see
tyty
Is jolt any good

oh shi
ok
but obv you would couple it with a fast weapon
lightning reflexes?
you mean like non attack procs of lightning/
gotchu
is that a boon?
lightning on near miss?
lol idk i dont recall coming across a boon with that effect but its porbably because i dont pay much attention to zues unless im playing the fists or the gun
but ill try to get that build going next time
Procing jolted off of cast, dash, or lighting reflexes are still a good option
For alternatives anyways
Cast is nice because it chains to enemies, dash and reflexes are nice because they're probably gonna hit an enemy anyways
Finally cleared || last boss with all base weapons. Is there an optimal blood investment path? I've only maxed out zag bow. ||
Very solid choice to start with
this is probably quite a stupid question but, where exactly do you use titan blood? is there some sort of requirement you have to meet before being able to use it?
You have to buy all base weapons using keys
oh makes sense, thanks
Then aspects will reveal themselves and you’ll be able to spend blood there
tyty
And you can check pins for what to invest in because some are confusing/don’t seem that great
got it
i reached end credits and only just realised how to spend titan blood lol
they already said that they got all keepsakes on another channel
and yea I don't think there's really any harm to just giving them to anyone you want after that
are all the weapons balanced or are there some stronger than others?
the latter
but they all do have their own set of playstyles yes
hm
what's the best one then
prob still sticking to spear cause i like playin spear
but still
ic thanks
They all have different playstyles
The shield was pretty easy for me, as soon as I got it I was able to reach the third act/place/region
The gun is underrated and has too much haters 😔
i did good enough with the ranged weapons personally, i felt i got farther than with the melee but it's probably because i'm bad at dodging
gun did good by me
You don’t have to learn the enemy’s patterns if you’re across the room from them
Youtubers and streamers
I tried the bow with that range artifact thing and the further increase in damage if you're ranged
pretty much lmao with the boons i had
The game doesn't like me with the gun, it always makes me fight that witch trial part 😔
||dem + boon ||is a spoiler here btw
You can just kite people instead of having to learn defense
oops my bad
but i'd say that i had received the right gifts to use and abuse my range
although i bought a second death defiance and without it i'd probably have died
Ig so
i'm giving away every nectar i have to charon he's always been a good friend i think
But he is undead and therefore has no feelings 
What upgrades should I go for with the mirror btw? I have the first 8 slots unlocked and 1195 points to spend
idk he seems appreciative he has a lot of hearts in my diary
He’s just tired
He is a skeleton that speaks in murmurs
hey im new to hades does anyone have any tips for starting out?
Is there benefit to gifting to the same person more than once?
Story progress.
Can check pins for a couple newbie guides.
alright thanks
Are there any specific keepsakes I should try to get
All of the god keepsakes, Acorn, Hourglass, Coin Purse.
what abt cerberus trinket?
Who should I give my first nectar to?
im new like you
honestly
cerberus imo
it gives more health
its a crutch
which is rlly good as a beginner
skelly's keepsake gives more hp unless you have 3 death defiances basically
if you have 2 death defiances, it's the same as skelly's
but for the most part, collar is the worst defensive keepsake
fr?
acorn can mitigate more boss damage if it's the final one
maybe for third boss too, but not sure about that
yeah
3 death defiances with collar is 125 effective hp
tooth is 100
assuming max lvl btw
so collar can be better than tooth, but realistically at a certain point, the first two biomes shouldn't be much of a struggle. most players after a while dont struggle in tartarus or asphodel
and once you reach elyisum, if you burnt a DD, then skelly is effectively the same
technically better because you revive an extra time, which grants some iframes
collar might be helpful then
or it might also be a build issue
Well, first two biomes you're best off using god keepsakes to get a decent build.
Or money to buy a decent build, but yeah I love the god keepsakes.
anyways
i did get a decent build
i beat the hydra with 4 health left but thanks to my build the health went back to 54
and i havent even used death defiance yet
Actually, Cerberus is a very good boy and deserves the nectar
doesnt mean his keepsake is better than others lmao
No
but cerbeus best boy
Best boys
can you not quit from charon's shop?
you can't if you bought something
enter the next room and then quit before anything happens
aw nuts
you can do that?
yeah
oh
ok
cool
this is the most prepared i've ever been for a theseus fight 🙏
yay
im gonna die anyways though
used up both death defiances somehow
well i did pretty good there to be honest
do i have enough blood spent to unlock the aspect of ||Arthur|| like this? level 0 zag, level 2 nemesis, level 1 poseidon?
||do u have guanyu?||
yes, that i have unlocked but not bought
all i wanht to know if this amount of blood spent on other sword aspects is enough
okay great, thanks!
hello
what build did you beat him with or like what weapon?
It’s a reasonably big window, but use empty dashes, do not try to attack middash until you’ve completely evaded his leap, that’s usually what gets most people
I've been trying to dodge as soon as I see him like move, is that wrong?
thinking will be that the i-frames will trigger while he's midair
am i suppose to dodge earlier or later
I can't tell if I'm dodging too early or too late
tbh, i honestly dont rlly strategize for anything in this game lmfao im pretty much running on luck. makes it more fun for me atleast
and also im not smart enough for that haha
Well I already died to him so I can't exactly test that right now
He does a couple of short range swings, then pauses for a moment before making the big leap on you
do all the weapons in hades have equal base damage or not? like is the bow better than the starter sword.
Does doom stack?
Mostly equal so it's largely down to preference
It doesn’t unless you have Dire Misfortune
You cant backstab it, among other things like Skullomats
In terms of base damage no they are not equal at all. But weapons and aspects are balanced overall, multiple other factors contribute to that like Rate of fire, hammers, range etc
thanks!
does the aspect of achilles raging rush also count as special?
for example if you have the curse of pain does the dash also apply doom?
i dont think so
It doesn’t
Wait
I read that wrong
I think it does
I thought you asked if Specials can get empowered by the +150% achilles buff
nono i meant if Raging Rush applies curses basically
It should
alright thanks
yep
that dyonisus boon that gives you health back to a threshold after an encounter
||Heat|| is spoilers in this channel. There's a guide pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies though.
how to get apphorite god mroe oftren
and artenis
i need to unloick hearthbut they keep dodging
even i followed how to do it
you use their keepsake
if you dont have that you need to give aphro and arty one nectar each
what should i be looking for when using aspect of achilles
tidal dash and good cast
would something like an auto target where you don't need to aim your attacks actually be a large advantage
controller has auto aim
you can turn off aim at cursor if you're on kbm
also that til
cause i was considering a keyboard only setup
for funsies
i did a kb only run last week or something
yea
croven uses controller, ocke uses kbm
when croven was starting out he also only used kb iirc
Tidal Dash start, then either pick up Lightning Strike + Electric Discharge or Deadly Strike + Hunter's Mark. Poms on Tidal Dash and 2-3 on Electric Discharge/Hunter's Mark.
No lol. Pad is more popular; either is fine, though.
i wasnt sure thx
got it, thanks
also for hammers?
flurry jab
Flurry Jab is best, and you'd want to avoid spin hammers because they'll prevent you from picking up Flurry Jab (incompatible)
tyty
Gahhhhh ive taken like 5 athena boons and she wont give me the damn deflecting attack
if your other cores aren't filled you should try and do that
If you have an Attack from somebody else, then the odds for an exchange are very low.
holy nuts i actually have a chance against final boss rn
which blade has the upgrade that gives u damage as much as u have coin
hi yall i just now started playing the game and was wondering if theres like a boon of athena thing thats way better than the others
if i chose one can i go back and like change it later
every time you die boons get reset, but in each run you can't go back and change the boon
the best athena boons to my knowledge are the deflecting ones
ideally attack or dash
Try not to, but don't get mad if you do
^
It's ok to die but you should still try to escape
basically it doesn't matter that much if you die but you should still try to escape
oh okay, and i just got my 2nd boon thing, for one of them it says epic? are there like random tiers to it or?
yeah
You'll lose a lot of runs before you win one.
i feel that
Higher rarities are usually better but it's still situational
||after upgrading the mirror and weapons, are keys useful for anything else?||
yeah it took me like 28 runs. probably more than average ngl
also how do i deflect, is there a certain thing i gotta do?
or just like attack when they attack and it deflects it
Do you have a deflect boon?
uh yeah
i think so 😭
it has said deflect before but tbh im just kinda mashing keys
Athena's boons usually have deflect
depends on what deflect boon you have
You just use the corresponding ability
Yeah, trading in for Nectar. And keep 15 on you for the special deal for Titan Blood. Muuuuuuch later, Keys are also needed for some cosmetic stuff, but you'll have way more than you'll know what to do with by then.
ooh okay, thanks !
if it's the attack one, attack in the direction of the incoming attack to deflect
if it's the special one, use your special
Ok keep 15 on me at all times, trade the rest away
and so on
also are the purple things important
what purple things
like gem-stoney thing, idrk what they are
oh
Yes
darkness
They're important
yes they are a key part of the game
You're gonna need a lot of them
they unlock various upgrades
Most important thing to know when you're new, because the game doesn't tell you: you're invincible during empty dashes, but you lose the invincibility if you do an attack or anything mid-dash.
wish i knew that earlier
oh that makes sense
For everything else tbh just play for now and try out anything that sounds good or interesting.
I didn't know that lmao
i picked it up when i was midway through ||elysium|| for the first time
TY i was just about to ask this
what's doom?
and how do i special attack
when you hit an enemy it curses them and that curse deals damage after a certain period of time
keyboard?
Doom is a status curse that deals delayed damage.
yea
Q
is it just the thing i need a red diamond thing for?
huh
No, that's Cast.
oh yea
That "red diamond" is a bloodstone.
special is on Q by default, it differs for every weapon
it's fine i mean, this is a channel designated for new players
to ask questions and clarify things
nop
you can use it as much as you like
there's certain builds even relying on special damage
oh i died
That's to be expected lol.
yea
if you spam space and mouse1 with the sword will you do a dash strike every 3 hits or no
i cant tell
i assume you mean the coins, you use it in charon's shop
you do lose it if you die
also there's these occasional cauldron thingies, idk what they are called, you can also spend coins there
oh the purple pool
Well of Charon.
yea i did a quick search it's called the Well of Charon
mhm
Also commonly just called Well.
also is it just me or is ||elysium the most difficult level? Everything from the traps, common enemies, and the bosses||
what does the symbol on the door mean? it's like a skull symbol next to one of the places i can choose to go
it's not really a door but i dont have a better name for it 😭
oh okay
||well i'm fairly certain the difficulty is supposed to go up the further you get so it only makes sense
imo Asphodel is the most annoying cause of the magma, but that's probably just being a new player issue||
as i said, new player issue
@gray haven what do you do to counter theseus?
i killed the bull and got theseus to 50% hp phase
but
he blocks all attacks
tyy
he has the circle move doe
Get close to bait his spin attack, then empty-dash to evade the spin.
If he's getting ready to throw his spear, you can just hide behind a pillar.
how do you know what direction hes gonna do the circle move in?
Doesn't matter. Your dash is invincible.
Hello
You just time your dash to i-frame the spin.
W
so i got into a room thnat says it has a nectar reward, do i lose the nectar if i die in the run
that is very cool image
thanks
also is there a certain keepsake i should be using? or does it just depend on play style
Sparrow made that, not me. Thank Sparrow. 
should i save nectar for anything ? i have like a trident it says i can give it to, does that just give it to the god or?
Keepsake meta is: god 1 > god 2 > Hourglass or Acorn > Acorn.
nectar is used to build relationships with npcs
For each biome, respectively.
thanks
is there any way at all to tell which thingy will have the ||sack||
hades biome is its own biome?
i just got absolutely bablitod
entered with 250 hp and 2 death defiances and came out with 38 and 1
i assume they meant ||styx||
is bow better than fists?
also i wanna unlock aspects alreadyyyy
i have 5 blood just waiting to be fed
Spoiler tags for final boss. 
sorry
ion really know, i'm also a fairly new player, probably just depends on playstyle tbh
Or just say "final boss".
i'd just use the one i find most fun
||I’ll tell you that if you’re struggling with those rooms, the boss will also be a challenge. You get to a point where you’ll breeze through those and will ideally want the sack room last||
i like using ||achilles spear|| despite the spear being one of the worst weapons
Final boss region is technically its own region but generally counted to Styx.
most of them are easy it's just those god forlorn fat rats
but i did pretty decent on the boss
idk if bow is better than fists
got him to 50% on ||2nd health bar||
idk about you but sword is my goat
🤢 🤮
Bow is better than the Twin Fists, yeah, but can be more difficult to learn. Doing consistent Dash-Strike Power Shots takes practice.
||2nd phase gave me a headache ong
those stupid urns are so hard to manage the first few times lol||
what if im not dash striking or doing power shots?
good job though
just doing shots for 60 base?
Then start doing that. 
||yeah, i got really lucky bc i got the athena boon where you regen health if you have no death defiances so i kinda stood around for a while||
how do u concentrate on power shots while making sure you dont get hit doe?
You practice lol
I don’t wanna tell you to git gud
||and i got immediately blasted to 9 hp on the second phase from about 145, but then i got him down to 50% because i had the greater call with athena so i just stood there spamming mouse1||
fr
gittin*
The game has such a slow incline In difficulty that you wont believe how much you improve after a while
Git gudder
damn
No.
no
What is she offering?
is there any requirement for getting meg's battie or do i just give her 5 nectar?
Hunter Dash is great on bow lol.
||is it normal to get a boss fight on ur 3rd run?! 😭 its a room with a skull, 2 arrows and the star||
yes?
What boss are you talking about
First boss is always in chamber 14 lol.
yeah
Boon menu.
If you press your boon menu button/key right when you enter a chamber, it'll show the chamber number without opening the boon menu btw. 
people play on controller??
Pad is more popular, yeah.
yeah
I like to lean back
😱
It’s good for me
Whatever works for you. KBM and pad are both fine lol.
you can't tell but i just dropped dead
i saw some speedruns n stuff and they were all on controller
i assume it may be slightly better or somethin?
that is wild
No, it's just personal preference really.
i see
There are a few advantages and disadvantages on certain aspects, but not really to the point you'd switch from KBM to pad or vice versa if you've been playing on one the whole time.
got it
There's also players who use the left side of a pad + mouse lol.
i could never
I miss a lot of shots due to imperfect aim assist
And keyboard doesn’t give me enough mobility
is a pad just a controller?
this must be that east coast terminology
Lol yeah
what are all the ways of obtaining titan blood
Every pad is a controller, but not every controller is a pad. 
praying to the Lord our God
i know beating ||meg and hades|| for the first time awards you with 1
i also know the one occasional reward in ||styx||
and i think i saw some in the ||fated list of minor prophecies or whatever it's called||
is there any other way to obtain it?
||heat|| isnt it
After your first win, ||you'll unlock the pact of punishment, which allows you to get bounties from the bosses again||.
i see i see, thanks
how good is the yarn of ariadne?
if ure going for a duo and have the pre-req’s it increases the chances that u get it
idk how to get a duo
have you bought the codex upgrade from the contractor?
no
that allows you to see all the boons a god offers?
The codex is a life saver
rn im saving for a deluxe contractor desk
hmm okay well try and work towards buying everything from the contractor
Arguably the most important upgrade for quality of life
yea that’s important
Yarn is great. Just buy it.
you get two boons from 2 different gods and pray you get a duo on your next boon from either of those gods
they also gotta be compatible gods, and it's gotta be certain boons
lmao
The codes will tell you exactly what boons you need
too late sadly
so will the wiki
Nope
they also gotta be compatible gods
They all have Duo Boons. Except for Lord Hermes and Master Chaos.
that too, get codex upgrade it's very goodge
imagine if hermes had duos
i see, just saw a list of duos that work at some point so i assumed not all have duos with each other
i just got 30% faster attk speed on bow w hermes
That's not good. Doesn't work on Dash-Strikes. 
not wut u want on bow either
this is why sword is my goat
Only worth taking if you have Flurry Shot.
ez and simple
Is yarn of Ariadne from charon well?
Yes.
fists?
thats what im tryna get
also
i got a lucky ahh well
got kiss of styx and yarn
bought both
too complicated
barely
i dont know what to do with it therefore too complicatged
Twin Shot and Triple Shot are best on bow.
also range minute
There’s triple shot??
can a hammer appear in the shop?
Yes.
ME then dash strikes
Yes to what
Both.
yea
yeah
how much does it cosr
200
How do you obtain triple shot? Just a random daudelus?
see, i don't know what ME is, therefore it's complicated
merciful end mmt
yep
i dont think its compatible with twin shot
Yes. Incompatible with Twin Shot.
So if you take Twin Shot first hammer, you can't get Triple Shot second hammer.
wow theres a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes here
?
We're only scratching the surface, yeah.
I could tell you how the game chooses what boons to offer you when you pick up one.
(1) If all priority slots (i.e., Attack, Special, Cast, and Dash) are empty, fill all three slots with priority boons,
(2) if an exchange is possible, 10% chance to add an exchange to one free slot,
(3) if 2 fails and there are free priority slots, add one priority boon to one slot,
(4) 50% chance to add a tier 2 status curse (i.e., Jolted, Marked, Rupture, or Exposed) to one slot if boon requirements are met,
(5) roll for legendary/duo for each remaining slot,
(6) roll for epic for each remaining slot,
(7) roll for rare for each remaining slot,
(8) fill all remaining slots with common,
(9) fill all remaining slots with whatever is available.
bruh
the speedrunnar really sharing their book of secrets thinking we can understand it
me to dum
m not a speedrunner. 
Oh no @gray haven made a typo
magician
I did not make a typo.
2 hammers and no flurry shot 😭
You just want Flurry Shot because you're not good at power shots yet, huh? lol
Think of it this way: you get to practice more because you didn't get Flurry Shot.
i dont like bow because you get to move less
Bow gud.
im bad
Bow is incredible
spear best ong
Nothing is as satisfying as getting a massive crit
The real fun is learning when not to power-shoot because it's faster to let go early. 
Oh you mean the little flashing thing?
Yeah that’s the best
I get it like 1/2 to 2/3rds if the time
Which keeps me wanting to improve
Also, there's being consistent with Power Shots and there's consistently doing Power Shots as early as possible in the window.
bro phase 2 theseus is mad unfair
his aphrodite attack takes like 2 seconds before it hits you
Run.
||should i be saving my keys for weapons or mirror||
||ive gotten the 10 key mirror upgrade and 3 weapons||
wow piercing wave is nice
hey i got a poisdeon's aid thing but idk how to get the things to use it, does anyone know how to?
like the call?
it should tell you which button it is idk what you're on
does it go away after each room?
oh okay
you can get a thing that makes it start with some charge i believe
man ||tisiphone|| is easy but confusing
because
||i keep thinking she's going to do some sort of circle attack||
||when she's about to do one of her line attacks||
||so i dash away in a straight line||
Won’t matter
it always makes me happy to pwn ||thanatos||
Not really, no.
At high level sword player, it's just -60% HP with no benefits.
Because we don't do normal attacks, only Special and Dash-Attacks.
hey is it better to buy weapons or use the keys for the personal-upgrades?
also which weapon is best?
also, is there anyone i should prioritize giving nectar to?
weapons first
imo
cause it gives you access to aspects when you have all the weapons unlocked
oh okay, thx
i don't think there's a best, just use whichever you enjoying playing
battie?
oh is it
yeah lmao
i mean i asked if there's any req for it
the req is to max the bond
nobody said anything so i assumed you can rush it
and yeah ofc giving her nectar will advance it and you can rush it
but it'd take a good amount of time
ic
and frankly shouldn't be a priority for nectars
ig then just unlock all keepsakes?
every god, eurydice, and chiron should be your first nectar priority
once you give those 1, go for everyone else
and then once you have all of them, just give the rest to whoever you want
i could use that tip myself, ty
oh 😭 i did the dog and nyx
I had a nectar or two on me in case I came across a new god or character
So I unlocked all possible keepsakes asap
||currently fighting Hades rn but I have slow regen (first phase). Is there anything stopping me from just stalling until I fully heal||
Like if he gets stronger over time or something
wait what happens if u gift someone twice
it just increases your relationship with them, some of them eventually give you a reward
||nvm accedentally ended first phase anyways. Got like 100hp out of it tho||
for example the aforementioned meg battie
||nothing's stopping you from doing that other than the fact that if you win, the victory screen will show that you spent an extremely long time lmao||
are chaos gates randomly generated?
Pretty much.
hey how do u save
The game auto-saves. You just need to press start/esc and then quit.
No saves system implemented, gotta do it in one sit (obviously joking)
True roguelike experience is erasing your game knowledge between each run
aigh guys. i gotta take a break from this masterpiece for a while. thanks to ya'll, i was able to git pretty gud pretty quickly. probably halving time it wouldve taken on my own probably by half.
If you can't quit the game at that point you just have to enter the next room and quit immediately before anything happens
very new to hades i have enough keys to unlock either the shield or the spear, which one is better
They're both fine, just pick whichever you fancy more.
what's heroic mean rarity-wise? is that the highest rarity
Yeah.
it's comforting to go back to tartarus after a run to the final boss
everything is so easy
can't believe i died here once
Is there a specific strategy against theseus? He seems to be really difficult to deal with using bow
what aspect are you using?


