#h1-story-discussion
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actually I'd imagine than/hermes/ares take souls to the temple of styx
and charon boats them from there
no he doesnt
ares doesnt
that job belongs to thanatos sisters
the Keres, thanatos's sisters and gods of violent death
i dont even think ares doing it is hades canon
Why can't i go to Greece after mom comes back home
I had a conversation with her that says
"I can't stay up there for long at all without your presence."
Both my joke canon and the real possibilities that other characters theorize about support the idea that Persephone being a goddess of growth and life can have a revitalizing effect on her son Zagreus when he ought otherwise to be dying painfully due to lack of darkness/the proxy of a pact/pomegranate juice or whatever it is you believe.
Achilles might say that Persephone's blood connection to Zagreus is what lets him last longer with her on the surface even when his darkness is fleeing back to the underworld during the day, because Zag is god of blood and Persephone is god of growing life. Thanatos or Hades might suggest that Zagreus getting killed prematurely or dragged kicking and screaming back by the Styx is due to Hades' pact with the Fates still binding Zagreus by blood connection despite seemingly avoiding being Hades' "heir" due to dying and being resurrected. And that Persephone not being bound to such an agreement allows the part of her in Zagreus to resist.
I would say that Zagreus is made of pomegranates and that Persephone is really good at keeping pomegranate trees alive.
eat zagreus
They sure did
Don't worry. Meg and Than are good friends, neither of them mind :)
am i understanding the story correctly, are ||zagreus and thanatos more than friends||
Well at this point I'm sure they're bfs
Whether they're lovers or not eludes me
The initial scene in the bedroom mildly confuses me
awh shucks...i missed it, my volume was on mute at the time
I do too
Much more than Dusa or Meg, though I suppose that's my own preferences leaking through
The board game comment was a joke
You do realize that was way earlier right?
I already said this.
hehe me over here who got the room scene with meg and than(they were both there)
that was a trip
like i walked in and i was scared for zag
Than is cringe and weird but so is Zag so they are perfect
okay so
this is one of the sweetest interactions in the whole game I think
second to aphrodite and artemis over Zag
or sweeter
YESSS IKR I GOT THAT LIKE 2 HOURS AGO
Transcript:
||Zag, Casually: "Hey Megaera... you ever been in love with somebody?"
Meg Hesitantly: .. Hm. Yes.
Zag, Sternly: Who?
Meg, Smiling: ... Shut up.||
I was so happy
I got em twice too :DDD
hehe
I know they're super rare so I feel like that's the succubus privilege at work
🙏
fr 🙏
hehe uwu
I don't mind that I haven't gotten it with Than
I 2 gey for dat
wouldn't mind the trio interaction though :>
not saying the other word for three people because there are kids here :>
they seem to be even rarer with him than with meg
i have gotten that one though pff
theres so many sweet interactions in this game though i always think ive heard them all then i get somethin like that meg and zag one
yeah uwu

I love the super long script
you never find the end
you're always surprised
all the joys of a nice book but without the part where you feel like you're wasting your time because your anxiety labels sitting down and relaxing to read as a panic/you're losing time event
i got an interaction recently where thanatos and zagreus were talking about when they were kids and than mentioned when he used to have long hair and AAA
Ok so iv realised
Thans keepsake means he doesn’t want u to get hurt
Megs expects u to get hurt
Dusas is a sort of ‘in case u get hurt’
@oblique vortex woah
that is an amazing symbolization
hadn't thought of that at all
and yeah it represents their character a lot
And cerbs buffs you up in the best way when you're just starting out
Cuz he’s such a good boy he just wants you to have a long life
Skelly just lets u return from the dead like him for once
He just wants you to know what it’s like to be him
And love it 
Is Cerberus a good boy or 3 good boys?
A three-headed good boy
Three good bois with one good soul.
He’s all the good boys
The goodest of bois
tip, if than is at the balcony and you haven't talked to him yet, running in and out of the admin chamber might get a heart to show up!!
HHJsdhjkdhskj i didnt know that
ofc theres ways to cheese than romance and of course i will be trying that
he rarely shows up at all anymore though </3
ohh it has to be before you talk to him?
Always check who is available before changing rooms because it can make their availabilities change or cause them to relocate and become unavailable, like Dusa.
do i really need to play the harp 210 times to complete the achievement? its what the wiki says but i dont know if its true
it is true
you dont need to do it all at once, and you will still be blocked off by needing a few pieces of dialogue from orpheus after certain numbers of interactions
just do it periodically between runs and eventually you'll finish it
ah that's good to know actually
was wondering whether or not i had to just do it 100 times in a row or something cause Orpheus wasn't saying anything new
oh no its total interactions, no worries. orpheus remarks at... i believe it was 20/60/110/210 interactions, so those will be your progression guides. the final convo will finish the prophecy
I got the conversation with Than about Eris
whats a fun charon quote to use as a status??
cuz im not feeling the edgy pat quote anymore
Hhhrrggghhhhhh
whats the line for when you steal his money??
Hggghhrahhhhhh
epic thank you
Greg really popped off when thinking of this line 😳
My status is the same quote it’s been for a while lmao
You don't have a status tho
i mean its a very good quote
It lives in my head rent free
True
If it were me I'd put -Charon at the end tbh
but this is good too
Is the cause of death the narrator tells at the end of a run actually happening
or is it just made up
Up to you.
You could rationalize the more ridiculous ones as the Fates literally having a giggle.
some of them are actually ridiculous
death by remembering dying so hard that you die?
i just take them as the developers having a giggle
the thermal vent steam one is definitely a jab at the game's release on steam
That one can also just be claimed by the Styx but faster than usual.
And obviously the wall painted to look like the way out, and the banana one, and the farming tool ones are all cartoon related
Zagreus: don't think about Styx don't think about Styx
Styx: ominous gurgle
Thanatos: A worthy rival.
I like the narrator breaking the 4th wall, with the one about him running out of ideas
Man I feel bad for zag, like the narrator of the story seems to just arbitrarily hate him
Nah that's just how poetry is.
Like every time I get to the end of the game there’s just like a gleeful description of the next way Zag dies painfully and it’s really sad
Dusa being fired has nothing to do with that subplot at all.
So... yes?
She should have offered it to you immediately after you maxed out the affinity
Maybe your timing was too good with the firing subplot and it took priority over it and now it has to conclude before the next run will continue the ambrosia subplot?
yeaaa i did her romance long before the firing subplot even started
so its very unrelated
Yeah, like sometimes the ambrosia related conversations just don't trigger even though they have nothing else priority to say and you have ambrosia on hand so yeah probably RNG now.
Only just realised that the hades phase two theme begins with E1M1
that is...a status....
yea it sure is one
I'm here all week folks
Is the narrator Homer?
I've heard someone say that, but I've never gotten anything from the game that points to that?
the speculation has merit due to: ||1) the poet bust resembles depictions of him 2) interaction with the bust many times results in zag egging the narrator on to speak, and the narrator calling him annoying||
also the narrator is technically revealed so make of that what you will #ask-supergiant message
Either way, no matter who it is..
I’m curious about the explanation for why Zag is the only one that can hear him 
No one else has commented on the narrator so far for me at least 
Maybe it’s all a figment of zags imagination
greg's response is probably the closest you'll get, supergiant likes to leave some things to the fan's interpretation
That somehow knows more then he himself does 
Homer is really the only person who makes sense to me given the rough time period the game seems to take place in and the narrator's familiarity with characters who would have been in Homer's writings.
... wait is this entire game possibly Homer fanfiction? Heh heh
isnt everything homer writes fanfic??
like tbh mythology stories in general are just fanfic
they are
there is no such thing as canon or anything for mythos, much of it was passed around orally for centuries before it was ever recorded
which is why i like when media inspired by myth has their own spin on it, like hades does. its all basically free real estate, go wild!
yeah
when it comes to mythos is all up to interpretation
lots of things are
that's probably why mythos is so popular. you're given enough to work off of, but a lot of free room for your own creativity
and yet i feel like basic archetypes and chains are never broken ;w;
^ that too
there are a lot of archetypes/chains for this kinda thing
but you don't have to follow that really
and yet everyone does ;w;
it's fun to think out of the box
it is but i feel like that hades is the most out of box greek thing for modern day
everything else makes me feel so jaded and just like "man, greek for the 100th time, wonder if they'll do research"
and or actually make it interesting
and supergiant is the only company ive seen really do that
true
the most popular mythos focused media i can think of, besides hades
is percy jackson
and that's like
still cookie cutter in a lot of stuff
hades takes the risk in making everything have a twist and they did it wonderfully
they also paid attention to the small details like ares's boons being curse since thats what hes associated with, aphro having dummy thicc damage since she used to be a war goddess
and just cthonic stuff overall is never used
what is the mythos of the good shade
😔
Than has a sword like classical depictions of Thanatos do
Oh, I wanna know the story behind this one
It seems like the first time Zag died right?
Oh man that one hurts
wouldnt be suprised if zag started being a jerk and hades just strangled him
Or went played stupid teenaged games with Meg and won a stupid prize.
Man hades is,,, a word I wanna call him but can’t on this server because it had a swear in it
Don’t we all?
You can always go with "abusive"
Bad Dad(tm)
I had an HC that Zag discovers what Father’s Day is and decides he should definitely go get a card... for Achilles.
omfg
Hell yeah
i mean post story im sure hed get one for hades
Achilles and Nyx are great parents without technically being his parents
since hades is trying
He'd get one that said, "You tried"
World’s Okayest Dad mug
A poorly fitting T-Shirt that says "Killer Dad" on it.
On my re-playthough I got the flashback of Zagreus and Hades’ fight that got Zag fired from his job 😞
Oh yeah that
It just made me sad
God I just relate really hard to feeling overwhelmed and not being able to live up to people’s expectations for you
Yeah, big dad doesn’t seem to consider what the people would actually be good at.
Hypnos is in a job that is not suited to him
Zag just doesn’t work well with very paperwork-y jobs
:/
I could feel my RSD empathetically flaring up while Hades was yelling at him
I just love the ADHD Zag headcanon so much
Escaping is Zag’s hyperfixation
Hmm I’m trying to think of any other neurodivergrnt things they or other characters could b
Have you all considered for a moment that Hades in fact knows perfectly well the measure of everyone?
Zag goes from rebellious screw-up to important asset and fixes the family in the process
Hypnos over the course of the game becomes incredibly good at his job, impressing everyone
If you see the potential in someone and you have literally unlimited time to bring it out, you try things until something works.
It's a lot better than just letting them feel bad and be useless
Hmm
Also @ what point do people start considering Hypnos as getting good @ his job??
You have to finish the story
Oh I see.. past epilogue
Gotta max those hearts
Ah I see
You need to do both basically
Hahaha! Iv just gotten the house contracter to sign away Orpheus’s payment
Soon he will see his wife 😊
Also Hadesvgot so mad when he overheard what I did
Ok I have to know, Herakles saves Theseus from the throne right
But did Theseus leave his buttcheeks stuck on the throne?
Yes
Are there any weapons exclusive boons from gods? Im guessing not and I'm just unlucky lol
Oh jeez there exclusive to the upgrades lol
Flares are literally just Casts
I had not gotten blown kiss yet along with a few other cmbut for some reason I thought maybe they were long range exclusive
boons are only boon exclusive unless youre using aspect of beowulf
but the beo ones are just renamed casts
since they function differently
Ahhh that's weird to iv been using alot of her cast lately lol
Ahh okay basicly this is for prophecy just though I would mention that
for the purposes of prophecies, youre fine
beo and normal cast boons are interchangeable
so if youre missing specific ones look in the codex to see what prerequisites they have
^
no problem
i'm confused. do you ever fight the olympians in hades?
because i saw this in a reddit thread
(I have not completed the epilogue myself but I know about it. I do not care for spoilers)
Trials
what are trials
When you find a room & there’s 2 gods on the preview
oh, the times where u choose between 2 boons
ah
thank you
then why does it talk about "Third bossfight"
unfortunately i had to delete that image due to the swears in it!
He calls on aid from a god that you don’t have
Theseus summons a random god to help him out
At that time
Not random nvm
no worries 
What shadow said
Demeter is easy
out of theseus' bunch
Demeter just makes some minor snowstorms that are easy enough to avoid
If she even has time to make one 
which ones would you classify as hard
Eeeeh
Idk
They’re all pretty easy 😗
After I started rushing Theseus when he calls for aid he only lasts maybe 1-3 seconds after that so I don’t see the effects much anymore
Theseus is just an angry kitten
hardest one is definitely Athena
yeah, Athena is rare
I’m actually not sure I’ve ever seen him call on Athena 
because you are using athena boons often?
Not really
build and weapon?
I find Athena boring most of the time, but I do use her w some weapons/aspects
how do you kill him in 1 second lol
i think everyone likes her dash
killing Theseus quickly just involves situational awareness and efficient Companion usage
and that's the only boon i like from her
I’m talking after he’s done calling on aid & is out of his standing still phase
yeah i know
He usually only lasts 1-3 seconds
i meant from that part on
Yeah
Cuz he has like a sliver of health left
Companion+ him standing still
isn't it like 50hp
??
but yeah his biggest drawback is him standing still when the gods help him
That depends entirely on my build
his call for god happens around 50%hp no?
50% ye
how do you delete his 50 hp that fast
Usually my dps by then is high enough I can just rush him..?
And I like doom stacking + privileged status
Theseus is the one w like no defense of the 2
He has his shield & if he’s not using it..
¯_(ツ)_/¯
that's what i do with exagryph waiting for him to turn around after throwing spear
i do but many times i'm behind pillar
then get out from behind the pillar
even on things like FO2 he doesn't throw the spear immediately so you have plenty of opportunity to hit him with the bomb
i do?
i don't think i need help on theseus asterius man they haven't dealt 50 damage to me in a while
does anybody know how to unlock hermes' last heart?
i think you need to have his plume equipped??
i could be very wrong tho
i got it when i was wearing his plume and he mentioned it and it unlocked :/
Max the plume out and speak to him while having it equipped for a bit
Summon Achilles and smack him once.
How much nectar do I have to give each Olympic god for the epilogue?
you need at least 6 of the to forged bond it think
but i just tried to get all of em forged until i got the prompt
Ok coolio
Can i keep trying to escape after the epilogue? And how do the interactions with the gods work?
Yes you can keep playing after epi
Phew
He can do that?
once you get the dialogue that hes working hard now then yea
its happened to me like twice
Epic
When he first made the board for me, Zagreus was like "Hypnos is the featured servant? I must be dreaming!"
https://gyazo.com/021ae67ed14c59057442177fcff314a7 help this is making me hysterical
easiest 4 heat settings?
td1, cf2, dc1
Or be like me and always use extreme measures because I'm either very brave or very stupid
I'd say tight deadline 1 and extreme measures 2
Tight deadline really isn't that big a deal 9 minutes per floor is alot of time
Furies aren't really that much harder on extreme just some aoes that are easily dodged
Lernie is more deadly cause lava EVERYWHERE but the heads are more grouped up so you can murderize them easier imo
If you want some extra fun, Middle Management is also an option
It'll mess up the patterns you learned but it'll be fairly easy once you get used to it
i think MM is relatively easy to get used to yeah
MM makes the medusa head fight more annoying
But there aren't any MM fights I'd call a threat, just more annoying
However, MM also makes Barge of Death exponentially easier
Since the main target is now a giant invincibility crystal thing with a few Bloodless, instead of a series of Bloodless waves
Makes it faster too
Witches Circle is ezpz if you have a deflect boon
noooo witches circle is literal hell when you have maximum security onnn
and It can sometimes use up a DD if i dont have divine dash
maximum security
dammit i would have abbreviated divine dash to dd but death defy already has that, thats annoying
WHY WOULD YOU HAVE MAXIMUM SECURITY ON
IDK I FIGURED IT WOULD BE EASIER THAN SOME OTHER HEATS
IT ISN'T
its a struggle but not too big a deal
High heat runners don't even take it until 40+!
though lava doing 10 damage is suffering
And even then they'd sooner take things like AP or RI instead of MS
Because MS S U C K S
Too little heat for too high of a punishment.
The people who take it don't get hit by traps unless they want to
yeah
is there a definitive ranking of the best/worst minibosses
because i still hate witches circle with a burning passion but i think other people hate other ones more?
Let's try to keep this channel story focused, please. Builds and combat or discussion would be better suited for this and the previous conversation
oh whoops
after completing main quest (10 hades kills), is there another major story segment or is that basically it? debating how much more time to sink in here if the narrative doesn't move a whole lot more
theres the epilogue
and that takes some waiting
essentially persephone is like "lets have dinner with them" after you get at lest 6 of them to forged bond
them = olympians
@spiral saddle thanks, that seems to be a bit more time then, maybe I'll go for that passively now
yea np
i honesltly did it as a side thing and it took a bit :/
but as long as you have the nectar it shouldnt take too long
There's also always each character's side plot as you give them gifts
yea and some characters have unique prophecies
yeah, I got one companion already, might just farm nectar materials now
and 32 heat is pretty epic if you havent done it
Which companion?
yeaaa theres much cooler companions
meg, than, dusa, achiles, sisy give you the other ones
I haven't tried his yet, I've stuck with Meg's after using Shady
Has it been useful to you?
not really yet, haven't had much trouble consistently downing hades without any companions, but I think that'll change with the heat stuff
actually forgot about it for a bit, will try it next run I guess
How are you meant to get "Is there not escape" in the prophecies. I have escaped plenty of times
which prophecy is that??
Getting 1000 darkness for your first escape
I got it fine myself, could be a bug
I finished all the prophecies in the list and Nyx was basically just like "ey congrats"
lucky bastard i still need to get exploding launcher on spear and thats it
Haha I’m nearing 60 runs and Poseidon refuses to give me rip tide
Hades reaction to freeing Orpheus was so good
Very satisfying for him to realise the extent of ur messing around
Oh? I’ll need to get that
Ah I’m not really using my gems rn
Managed to finally finish the lounge quest
Which I got immediate after spending loads of gems on something unrelated >:/
lmao
yea tbh the first things i bought out were thanatos's corner since i love him and the lounge since its a pretty neat spot
I need than to b in that area more so o can get his reactions
Also,,, than is so nervous now that I’m one heart away from maxing him
I gotta remember to gift them first so they don’t disappear from my sight 👀
Yea!!
then made the decision to romance meg too for the sake of dialogue
Romance all the folks
then i got a bedroom scene with both of them there and it scared me
Hehehe
lol ight
on my second playthrough I've gotten meg to her locked heart and I've beaten tisiphone and alecto but I haven't gotten the unlocking dialogue with her yet
"Names are there to be forgotten"
whatever the one from your first encounter with him is
epic
happy to help
hey guys how do i get the contracts to appear for sisyphus, orpheus and achilles' stories
the guide said to talk to nyx but is there smth i need to do to make it activate
get them to talk to you about their pact
like sisy for example
will say that its his punishment
and then if you talk to meg she'll be like he deserves but but you can sure try
then you can talk to sisy and nyx again i think
idk the exact order tho
and thats the same for all of em ngl, all of em have to talk to you about it then you talk to nyx
just the people that have the pacts, nyx relationship doensnt matter
okok thanks
I dont know if this is a bug or just due to not having encountered the dialogue i need, but I maxed Dusa's hearts, but I havent completed her bond according to the game? The wiki says there is a dialogue I havent encountered yet, but it says you get it from the final gift, which I already gave her. Her keepsake doesnt have the "bond forged" icon on it either. Anyone know why?
there's some dialogue after that you need to go through first
Ok. I wasnt sure how the priorities worked with that, and every other bond was formed immediately so I wasnt sure. Thanks
the dialogue requires Than, Meg and Dusa all to be in the house at the same time from memory
That would explain the difficulty in obtaining the dialogue 🤔
Do you need to max both Euridyce and Orpheus in order to do their quest?
Not sure, I did but don't know if that's required
I think so
cuz that's how you unlock the next part of their hearts right?
yes
also I assume there's a lot more dialog to encounter after the epilogue?
uhhh that really depends on how far you are with other npc affinity. the epilogue is the end of the main narrative, so you wont really encounter much story after that beyond a few runs worth of post-epilogue commentary
besides that all you'll have left is other characters to max affinity with
Do you have to romance characters to max out their bonds? I don’t want to cheat on Thanatos :(
when you get them to max hearts, you'll get a romance option
its not forced
the game is literally like "either is fine" for romancing
Ok ok good
I was so scared that it would make the relationships weird cuz of what it was hinting at that I stopped giving gifts lol
Nobody there looks like they're much into monogamy, so it's not cheating. Than and Meg know about each other and encourage each other's relationships.
It’s the myths..
Even marriage often wasn’t enough to keep you monogamous 
You’re just dating & you’ve got eternity to look forward to 
I really love that each choice is commented by the characters in a nice wholesome way. For example if ||you agree to Dusa's giving the Ambrosia back, it isn't framed as greedy or something, she just says that she wants to stock up the lounge herself so you're basically giving her space||.
Yeah. ||I personally took the ambrosia back and I'm glad the dialogue is not trying to guilt trip you into making the "right" choice or anything.||
I'm maxing Eurydice's hearts right now and now it shows a heart with a keyhole, does it mean I need to fulfill her favour or something?
ye
alright i'll check what her favour is
You can reasonably guess what her favor is
Yeah, I need to ||talk to Nyx enough so she will help me get the contract, and then buy it.|| right?
Ye. Remember to also max Orpheus.
dont forget you also need access to administrative chamber if you havent bought that
Oh so you do need it, good I thought I might have wasted some nectar on him.
I also got the chamber.
when do i get my ambrosia back from dusa
after you talk to her in your bedchambers
you will get the option to take it back
the next time you talk to her i think
aha
the only difference is that one character has slightly different dialog (there are no major issues with having multiple relationships in the game)
there's a bunch of different dialogues depending on if u romance someone/who you romance
I got to the credits but the codex still shows a keyhole in Hade's page, what do I need to do to keep gifting him?
Per run, even split chance of that (7.333...) per biome.
Talk
Alright
It’s story time
it is indeed, I'm trying to reunite the depressed and the hippie first
Orpheus & Eurydice..?
Yes
Have fun
ty
How do I trigger the prophecy eternal rest?
which one is that again??
The one that tells you to kill Skelly with the stygian sword zagreus aspect level 5
ahh that one
you need skelly at as much affinity you can
and hope for dialogue
and then he'll ask you to kill him
I did it, ||he scared me that skeleton.. I thought I was gonna lose him||(spoilers)
Do I get ||anything other than the companion from skelly after I give him the ambrosia?||
You get another heart filled
^^and if you max his hearts you get the cute little badge on the trinket
Oh so that's how you get badges, well I'll keep the ambrosia for the other ones
The real reason you should do it is because Skelly is great and he deserves the Ambrosia. Totally not biased.
Do we ever find out who hired Skelly? I have my theories, || Mainly Charon|| but was wondering if anyone had any more info?
It's ||Charon.||
yea he tells you after everyone else in the house tells you what they know
it took me like 80ish runs
i learned that zagreus has 2 sisters in greek mythology
Oh, zagreus is actually in the mythology? Nice
yea but he's super obscure
either seen as hades, child of either hades/persehone or zeus/persephone, affiliated with dionysus and sometimes depicted as just dionysus
god of like rebirth, hunting, and a few other things
very obscure but very cool
So that prank on orpheus is actually based on the real thing
honestly it would be cool to put zagreus sisters makaria and melinoe in the game
that doesnt line up with her personality tho
isnt it funny how hades is more loyal to his wife than the entire cast of olympian deities
yep
If you exclude the constant killing of his son
and even then its a loving murder of parent and child :3
used to communicate and just get anger out :3
healthy fights to the death
better than zeus at least
Their convo post em4 death is super nice too
I really like their relationship
Both evolve a lot as characters
I mean, she cheated on everyone
Or she actually didn't cheat
Cause non monogamy is kinda her vibe
She has too much love to give
From what I know of greek mythology zeus is the worst
hohoho he has soooo many kids without consent
its very scummy
i hate zeus with a passion
yep :/
Using, betraying, etc
whats the point of marrying the god of marriage
But I feel the same, they're bleh in most builds for me
Aphro, arty and poseidon are my faves
Also poseidon is chill as heck
I wish dyo boon were as good as his personality
btw cronus castrated his father uranus
Wait what
yeah greek gods are wild
Make my relationship with my father look super cool
Anyway, let's go watch healian beat the game without getting hit
is dusa the floating head of medusa
friendly reminder aphrodite was married against her will 
please like... read more mythology, people ragging on ares and aph over this while giving other gods a free pass over their shenanigans is really. not a great look!
Oh YEaA her and hephestus
isnt that like, not a healthy marriage either??
or is it actually kinda alright
heph also tried to force himself on athena so like ¯_(ツ)_/¯
hhhhh, the gods really do suck huh
the thing is, not a single one of them is meant to be seen as a moral paragon. mythos is very much a personification of ideals and beliefs of the time
trying to point out any one god as "better" or "worse" than another is taking any nuance out of what mythology was about
Like how spiders only exist because of athenas vanity
and women being smart only exists since prometheus was nice to people and the gods didnt like that so they made women smart and pretty as a punishment
smh
greek mythos very stupid sometimes
like
damn
greek mythos poopy
Well, Prometheus was the only one who really cared for humans as we were his creation
it's gods who are indifferent to humanity with a firm stance that we are beneath them and thus owe them worship
speaking of prometheus hes never referenced anywhere huh, i think zag would find him interesting
i mean prometheus is just on a mountain losing his liver on an hourly basis so like :/
besides that zag is only a quarter human if that if his early revival counts against being human the way being a shade does.
guys how do i get the night and darkness prophecy?
zag said put it in the house contractor but its not there
yep
I'll try going on a run and coming back then
That's how it usually works. You meet the criteria for it to go to the House Contractor list, and it'll be there after your next run
ok then i'll check again after the run
He is ||WHIPPED for her||
hehehe
No supergiant, u cannot stop me from loving skelly and Charon, the bone bros
oh the ending picture!!
What’s the Orpheus song that goes ‘hear oh gods my desperate plee’ called?
Lament of orpheus
Oh thank u!
I’ll get all songs eventually, just rn I wanna save most of my diamonds invade I need them
||how did I just instinctively know almost exactly what skellys first prize was?||
It's an incredible prize
What's the deal with the word "Unseen" and Hades?
His Aid makes you unseen, his EM4 theme is Unseen Ones, and he praises you for being an Unseen Force in making the underworld more secure
And even the high ranks from the resource director have unseen in them
I assumed theres some mythological reference I didn't get
Read a dictionary once and liked the word unseen, nerd /j
I mean it could just be nothing
Thought to ask since there might've been something I missed
Golly gosh ares is just so into war and fighting it’s creepy
Brilliant character ! Very unnerving
Same with Aphrodite
i think it's bc he sees pride as a weakness (smth he states multiple times throughout the game) and so he strives to do the opposite of that
so he just does his job without expecting praise or anything
hence the whole unseen thing
Do I need to gift bouldy nectar to progress the quest with sisphyus?
I don’t think so, I only gifted bouldy once and I got it
Alright, good.
thanks
I maxed ||Eurydice and Orpheus, now I just wait and talk to people to get the contract right?||
Yeah
thanks
This is probably an unpopular opinion but after I've had enough time to think it over I really don't think Than needs a boyfriend. What he needs is to learn proper communication, empathy, and to be kinder to others and himself
I love Than as he is >.>
he cares, just not how most people do
I believe that he cares, but then again a lot of his behaviour crosses the line for me personally
It's a BoJack Horseman kind of situation for me: he is well-meaning deep down, but he's done and said things that were harmful and we can't excuse that on anything
He strikes me as someone with personal issues he needs to resolve and no boyfriend or girlfriend can help him with that
i dont think a boyfriend or girlfriend can "fix" anyone but since games like hades are centered around the protagonist, storylines tend to be driven by them rather than other characters
how do i forge a bond w demeter? shes the only one im missing
it feels like that sort of "but moooom, i dont like hiiim dont date him" sort of thing with zag
post epilogue
and luck
thats about it
yeah ive gotten the epilogue
its prolly cuz i hardly ever go for her boons, i dont like em very much
rare crop is also p good esp early on
or in styx :3
I’ve never seen Than as someone who needed to be fixed 
imo than is just a baby
I feel like he has greater emotional range then me most of the time
like the first encounter when hes like "you didnt even tell me you were leaving" just 
and like tbh when than was like "you didnt even ask orphy/eury" i was kinda mad but like hes right
Than is a precious being who just isn’t that in touch with his own emotions 
Or that of others
I don’t blame him - he is the incarnation of death & all
Ye, Zag is the matchmaker of the underworld
im at the point where he was like "we plan to meet in person" and i was like 
I’m just sitting there like “you reap what you sow Zag - once a matchmaker, always a matchmaker” 
and zag having the kid vibe of "i dont like him mom why see him" makes me laugh

when is zag gonna matchmake his two moms smh
lol yea i support nyx/persephone all the way
I really don't think Ares and Nyx would get along rjdhsgf
Maybe after he gets over the whole “I have a MOM and she’s ALIVE and now she’s HERE and she’s still with DAD OF ALL GODS?!?”
He's too ham fisted
maybe shes into that
i mean ares obviously is
Ares is like. a manbaby
true
Ares be like. overly enthusiastic about meeting the chthonic deities
I’m waiting for when Aphrodite decides she wants in on it 
he be like: U SIMP FOR THANATOS MY KIN? I ALSO SIMP FOR THANATOS WE HAVE THING IN COMMON...
i get less simp vibes from ares and more of just appreciation
since like
his actions lead to people dying
and so understanding what happens and having ties with those that deal with the dead are pretty epic
Ye, I feel like that’s more what they bond over 
He's kinda comically over enthusiastic about it imo fidlsl
it's kinda funny to me
but I think Ares really just wants a new family
i mean he is baby compared to the other olympains
His own family rejected him and that sucks
“Hey you kill a lot of people - I kill a lot of people too! I like you kid! Say hi to Thanatos for me would you!”
@royal wadi i appreciate ur nick... hypnos is amazing
ayeeeee
hes just so comfy and i love him
forever pain that he can't be romanced 
its not as bad as the guy with chaos teeth pfp
Cuz his one true love is sleeping followed by lists
at least its not bojack horsethan
lmao
i havent drawn that..... yet
but i might
i started watching the show recently and this is probably not gonna be a popular opinion but bojack reminds me of than
in some weird ways
but if no romance route then why he flirt with zag... why flustered confession that he wants zag to be his best friend 🥺
if no romance route why his hair so fluffy and cute
i honestly dont want to romance hypnos tbh
nothing could have prepared me for how tenderly and lovingly zag says "i died on purpose every time just to see you"
if it was an option
zag cannonically finds hypnos annoying tho
theres a line where zag is like "i hate hypnos too" or smth
he says hes like an annoying little brother 😔
that was honestly really ooc of him imo.... like..... he's nice to everyone including sisyphus for gods sake
why the vendetta against hypnos.... who literally put his entire life at stake for zagreus, and for nothing in return
?? life at stake
puts entire house to sleep so zag can go through hades' letters
oh yeahh
thanatos' attempts at helping barely compare to that
anyway he doesnt hate him, he just finds him endearing but annoying
than gives me centaur heats and at 32 those are great >:(
smh who needs centaur hearts when you have useful tips like "dont die"
Hypnos is moral support
Doesn't Than also literally say "don't die" verbatim lmao
family resemblance
@lunar kiln 👀
i wanna see how this turns out 🍿
yeah
nice pfp
belgo omg
Do aphrodite next
that shouldn't have made me laugh but that was so unexpected
fun fact i made this one 2 years ago
Hades would be pretty funny
athena looks like she's 🤏 this close to ruining someone's day
when theseus uses athena call ^
actually changing back to chaos it just feels more on brand for me
chaos smiling is terrifying and i love it
i did athena/chaos/tisiphone/theseus/zagreus/hermes/achilles
and demeter as well
also than
Belgo no.
hehe i wanna see the tis one
belgo yes
yes please belgo
you had to be there
;w;
;w;
Apparently there is a sundial you can get from the contractor but it's never been offered to me, should I talk to Hades more?
Maybe buy more decorations?
first u need to have gotten a convo where hades talks about getting a sundial
then you have to buy a high enough amount of decorations/contractor items for the sundial to appear
think it's like 40+
I just freed Orpheus and the idiot hasn't gotten to Eurydice yet.. 'love her' yeah right.
orpheus is a twitch simp. that's why he hasn't gone to eurydice yet.
yes

also btw I talked to Sisphyus about why he is there and he told the all story with Thanatos and then the very next chamber I had a Thanatos challenge, is it prewritten in the game or are the fates friking with me?
It's RNG my dude
Though I do like to think you caught Than as he was making his way to Sisyphus to continue torturing him
Also, speaking of, I love how Sisyphus gets somewhat disappointed when he learns you romanced Meg and Than at the same time
Also I'm pretty sure by the actual stories Sisyphus also killed his guests and framed his wife on not organizing him a funeral so he can escape tartarus.
so...
I don't feel much pity
he didn't frame her so much as he told her not to do it before he died
He told her to throw his naked body into the town square and then proceeded to tell Hades that he had to go back and reprimand her for the indignity if I recall correctly
Ever wonder where the whole notion of capturing death even came from? It's not exactly widespread, but it sure seems to show up a lot more than one might expect. Well, worry no longer! Turns out it's all because the ancient king Sisyphus had a fantastic (terrible) idea that worked out great (badly) for everyone involved.
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Good channel
very much so
Does Charon do anything when you max his affinity?
DENIED
and you get his cute little badge
'cute'
thats about it
Yea I'll save it for the important ones for now
saying charon isnt important ;w;
Later
What is ||Charon’s motive with Skelly and Hermes? I guess all the weapons are his doings as well?||
no the weapons are achilles's doing
and skelly is just so zag has a punching bag
and hermes is hermes :/
So, Charon is like, just helping? I just don’t understand why he goes through all that
cuz hes a good boy who not only wants to see the house happy but see the queen again
and like tbh what else is he supposed to do
he just rows a boat all day
he needs something exciting
Good point I guess
That’s something
Nah nah nah that's not it, JUST HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU THINK YOU GAVE HIM IN ALL OF YOUR RUNS? the man made a bet and he's getting his rewards.
genius
And Hermes helps him with the dead because a lot of people are dying I think.
And he's very fast so he's the best for it.
I apriciaye the sheer number of people who ship Charon with Hermes
I like that too
It’s so silly and fun :)
"professional associate" my ass
My definatly professional associate
theres much more going on
Who always makes me the most expensive in Styx
And who knows loads about me and vice versa
lol
charon makes him expensive since hermes is worth that 900 obols
and even more to his eyes
if he has eyes
idk if charon has eyes or if its just like
echolocation
Okay that’s such a funny theory
yk now i wonder if charon even can see
since like
its just purple whisps
so like
what if he groans for the sake of echolocation
and thats it
he just needs to know where he is
Or maybe he can talk just fine and groans so that he doesn't have to talk to anyone because social anxiety
Understandable
Damn Charons so relatable
everyone else can understand him
except the player
since our ears are too mortal for his voice
Haha I think that actually might be it
like zag and everyone hears him fine
mayeb
who knows
we'd need like greg to confirm it tho
When Charon said: "HRRRRAAAAGHRRRRUUNNNGH"... I felt that.

I feel like the shops were a missed opportunity to run across certain peeps for some flavor dialogue. Like Hermes discussing business with Charon or Eurydice buying some ingredients or the furies stopping by to make a purchase. Especially that last one. Like, imagine rolling Alecto for the fury battle in Tartarus and then when you get to Elysium she's waiting for you at the shop so that you can see the boons for sale before she spitefully buys one and throws it in the Lethe so you can't have it. Or merely having the opportunity to hear a full and nuanced conversation between Charon and Tisiphone!
Okay I was getting like, vibes, but I wasn't sure if that's deliberate or if I just have terminal lesbian brain
lol yea a lot of people ship them, and im part of those people
idk if its intentional tho
tbh idk what the devs think half the time
these mythological figures gay... good for them, good for them!
is it 7th or 10th that hits you like truck-kun bc if it's 7th i might just do it now
(it's 2am here)
idk do you??
first thing in the morning if i don't oversleep. motivation. reward
anyway uhh i love everyone in this game so friggin much, and it's the ultimate power fantasy bc if you get the right weapon upgrades you can high kick your dad in the face
oh he is EXTREMELY annoying
but like, harmless annoying imo
and his whole deal with Asterius is kinda sweet
if only i could permanently kill theseus
like
if he could stop coming back
if we could just fight asterius
that'd be too easy tho
im good at fighting Asterius, and I'm terrible at this game
also, unrealted, I know that Zagreus is cannonically "bound to the underworld" or whatever but i saw this dumb tumblr post https://fandomgirl394.tumblr.com/post/644831082716561408/serious-headcanon-the-more-powerful-a-god-is-the and now every time im at the surface it pops back into my head
*unrelated
lmfao that’s so damn funny
zag just has really intense hayfever
ofc he can’t survive in persephone’s garden, he keeps going into anaphylactic shock
fighting his whole way through the underworld and past a licheral god only to get taken out by tree pollen
I need to know





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