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#h1-story-discussion
tough wedge
pastel quail
is that where the -phile comes from?
livid wharf
Hypnos in Greek myth is often portrayed as a lot more similar to Thanatos
twilit apex
I do like to imagine that thannypoo is this emo tsundere
livid wharf
He's flying Miles Edgeworth
twilit apex
Miles Edgeworth is the best ever
twilit apex
Hypnos in Greek myth is often portrayed as a lot more similar to Thanatos
Yeah i was thinking that earlier
royal wadi
which is why i found it a bit odd they look so different in Hades canon, but people can take artistic liberties
normal shard
He's flying Miles Edgeworth
This is a sentence I didn't know needed to exist
livid wharf
Well, the whole game plays fast and loose with the eleusinian mysteries
livid wharf
This is a sentence I didn't know needed to exist
You're welcome
But seriously, look at him. How he acts.
I'm still waiting for him to tell me I saddled him with unnecessary feelings.
unreal mesa
How do I complete Dusa's favor?
amber hemlock
How do I complete Dusa's favor?
renovate the lounge
must have a rug and it must have the fur and scratches from cerberus fixed
obsidian jay
ayt ty
orchid jewel
orpheus was like the first person i focused nectars on
and now i have earned his favour
plucky jewel
Hi, I had a quick question about something
one of the stories zagreus makes up for orpheus is how he burned hades's hands with the fire on his feet when he was a baby
orchid jewel
yeah
plucky jewel
does he actually have fire feet
there are other allusions to this in the game and I know Hades does
plucky jewel
is there anywhere they explicitly say it
tidal crown
If you look at Zag's character model as he runs, there is fire surrounding his feet
plucky jewel
okay, thank you
spice chasm
And there’s dialogue with Orpheus about how his feet burned hades’s hands when he was born
plucky jewel
yes but he tells that one after the one about poseidon daring him to fight seven bloodless while tied up and hopping on one foot
tidal crown
Agreed, it's hard to take Zag's stories seriously when some of them are clear fabrications. But some of it is often based in truth or in actual mythology. The thing about him being the original Dionysus is actually taken from mythology because Zag and Dionysus have sort of been merged into one being in the common mythos
orchid jewel
well
the game is only an interpretation right
sorry i misread
thought you were saying the game was bad because of the stories yeah theyre clear fabrications
tidal crown
No worries! And yeah, I mean, everything is an interpretation since we don't exactly have evidence of the Olympian gods 😂
tidal crown
Agreed, I for one am quite pleased with how Supergiant took the original mythology and put their own spin on it
spice chasm
No fun fact the actual Olympian gods partnered with supergiant games to make a 100% faithful adaptation of the real stories
tidal crown
No fun fact the actual Olympian gods partnered with supergiant games to make a 1...
You know, it wouldn't surprise me
tall edge
giving nectars to orpheus is SO worth it
spice chasm
I didn’t know they had a point past getting all the trinkets and ||romancing megaera||, so I just never gave them to anyone else
spice chasm
That’s why I’m hesitant to keep going to complete ||the queens plan|| becuase I heard it requires ||maxing out relationships with every god|| and it took me long enough just to get every trinket
tidal crown
As far as I can remember, that isn't the case, so don't worry there.
spice chasm
How do you do it then? I looked online and I saw someone say that was how, but 1. That feels like a huge undertaking and 2. I don’t see any other ways that would make sense, story-wise
tidal crown
||Once you get the instructions from Persephone, just get a boon from each god and you'll give them the invite.||
spice chasm
OH that’s way easier! Thanks so much I was dreading having to grind nectar
tidal crown
Nah it's much more simple, I did it and I haven't gone through anywhere near that much effort
Not a problem, happy to help!
Just ||Get a boon from everyone, including Hermes and Chaos.||
spice chasm
||wh.....why would you specify Hermes? Like, I can understand specifying chaos, but what’s different about Hermes?||
tidal crown
||Oh, Hermes is sort of listed differently in the entire situation since he knows this is all a massive con in the first place.||
spice chasm
||I did not know that. I’ve avoided Hermes like the plague since I hate his boons||
tidal crown
||Yeah if you listen to his dialogue, he's been given a lot of the rundown by Charon. He's more in the know than most of the Olympians on this situation||
unreal mesa
must have a rug and it must have the fur and scratches from cerberus fixed
I did all that but it still appears as incomplete
spice chasm
12 lounge renovations, talk to her, then the prophecy will complete and you can give her ambrosia
unreal mesa
Ah okay I think I need to buy more decorations then. And Dusa is often away so it's hard to get to chat with her
spice chasm
Where are you on the story? Becuase around the time that I got that prophecy, she was somewhere in the house of hades every time I came back. Don’t forget to enter your bedroom and come back out to check NPC locations again before starting a new run
unreal mesa
Yeah I do that. I'm at the point where Persephone returned
So now I'm just trying to finish other characters' favors
spice chasm
Oh, ok. Dusa should be just chilling, at that point.
unreal mesa
Then I probably need to get more renovations
spice chasm
I beat one run on heat 8 to get the ||skelly statue||
Is there any benefits to the ||16 heat statue|| or the one after it?
spice chasm
Oh of course
My biggest bragging right Is I found a build that let me do 3000 damage in one hit
neat crow
Yeah, probably crits, duo boons, and a weapon with high base damage
spice chasm
No crits, if I remember. I got the thing on fists that lets me hit my special multiple times, got a legendary boon that let me bounce enemies more times, super-boosted wall-slam damage, and just let it rip. I could clear an entire act 4 room in 2 hits
atomic forge
How do i unlock the hidden weapon aspects?
desert grove
It's pinned in this channel
atomic forge
My bad
amber hemlock
i say meg
obsidian jay
ayt
obsidian jay
i have 5 hearts on orph and 2 on meg
toxic jay
@potent matrix help
potent matrix
<@347391294638784512> help
whatsup
toxic jay
Once i go in a relationship with Thanatos theres no turning back right?
toxic jay
Which other ones are allowed to be in a relationship
potent matrix
you can romance all 3 at the same time
there is no repercussion or punishment with being with him
all 3 romance partners are those with the arrows in their heart chain in codex so: ||than|| ||meg|| ||dusa||
toxic jay
Ah ty
storm river
You don't have to necessarily romance them, just max your bond
amber hemlock
i think its just bond
obsidian jay
ah
prisma bridge
how do u romance people
storm river
Complete their favor, then continue giving them ambrosia
somber estuary
It is possible to have them ask you later if you want to keep things as they are or not when it comes to the romance options.
In case you were curious about their other dialogues I suppose.
royal wadi
will than go murder mode if i friendzone him 
somber estuary
No he will continue being your bro. But don't fool yourself, Life and Death still pine for each other. 
royal wadi
#hypnosgang
amber hemlock
#hypnosgang
royal wadi
as something that is currently alive right now, i would like death to stay a minimum of 6 feet away from me 
not today mr death
wispy ginkgo
No one will ressent Zagreus for not wanting to go further. That's why every character is lovely. 
royal wadi
oh god thats a relief
thank you supergiant for being inclusive to people who dont want dating sim in their hades hahaha
idk how the game justifies it but like. the whole life and death Belong Together ™️ thing feels a bit far reaching to me
probably because im speaking from my very biased perspective yanno
storm river
Thanatos does peaceful death, like those who die of old age
It’s the Keres that do violent death
somber estuary
I sold my friend on this game by explaining that every character has depth but are almost like instructional examples of how to deal with real life drama in a functional and constructive manner. That they actually talk to each other and work things out and make sure that they understand each other and clear up misunderstandings.
Except Theseus. He's just gonna be tsun all the time and force you to read between the lines because he's delicate and needs help.
royal wadi
RIP Theseus lmao
but yeah, I really love how important communication is in this game
characters feel genuinely realistic despite being from mythology
prime mulch
a talking head
wispy ginkgo
It's a game about relationships after all, may it be friends, lovers, family, mentors... You start at 0, and through your escapes, you patch things up with everyone. c:
royal wadi
relationship counselling sim dressed up as an action roguelite
wispy ginkgo
With Greek mythology as a background
somber estuary
But yeah, they decided to buy the game when I explained that the protag wasn't just some snarky generic dude but like learns to deal with some pretty heavy stuff to be respectful and express his feelings without trampling on others and that he deals with things in a shockingly mature manner (possibly explained by his bumpy start in youth with a few people). Although I left out the part where ||his father and he really only reach some semblance of health to their relationship through brief arguments between bouts of extreme violence.||
It's a... bit different for gods amirite?
royal wadi
at least their violence is fun video game violence with no lasting consequences
since they all can respawn after getting KOd
storm river
Yeah, even anonymous shade #8594339
wispy ginkgo
At some point || this violence is a way to show their affection for each other. Kind of. I may be wrong tho! ||
royal wadi
I was so relieved when Asterius said he enjoyed the sparring with Zag
felt bad about beating up the guy since he was so chill
Hmmm I guess ultimately I don't think I can really be sold on than/zag
I always wondered if there was something wrong with me or my line of reasoning that I don't vibe with the pairing, but I guess them not getting it on can also be canon, since you can just not romance him lmao
storm river
Achilles ships them
somber estuary
Achilles ships them
potent matrix
he kissed a guy and he liked it 
somber estuary
Just Achilles busting out the wallscroll printout of it gets me every time.
potent matrix
so good
candid brook
whoever did it, thanks for making aphrodi t h i c c 
potent matrix
kinda wanna buy the wallscroll for my room
royal wadi
catch me racking my brains to find out why i dont dig than, lmaoo
im overthinking it rather than simply accepting hes not my type
somber estuary
He comes on very cold and slow but I like him a lot.
He has relatable issues so it's nice seeing him be happy and accepting Zag.
royal wadi
haha i actually find him hard to relate to
potent matrix
are ye not a deeply depressed workaholic?
royal wadi
he kinda reminds me of the sort of people who would make me feel really anxious
when i had a part time job i had coworkers who always came off as judgmental/rude/cold and it made me stressed as heck
potent matrix
ohh, thats why anxious
royal wadi
in hindsight these people probably just had their own problems and couldnt deal with them properly
somber estuary
He's candidly judgemental and rude because he's criticizing Zag and Hypnos mostly, both people he grew up with.
He just cares about them and doesn't want Hypnos to look bad and lose his position or for Zag to leave them and not come back.
potent matrix
when you dont have a nice surrounding in your life that do tends to be happen
now Mendely, time for hypnos time
royal wadi
(gotta love it when a game makes me do serious soul searching )
IRL I am extremely put on edge by people who show care by being extremely harsh and judgmental, that explains it lol
somber estuary
Hades' got something for everyone
potent matrix
oof yeah
amber hemlock
yep
potent matrix
it's hard to remind yourself that some people just dont vibe when you love almost every character with their flaws and all
somber estuary
I do hope that by playing through the plots with the harsh and judgemental bits it gives you some measure of relief or vindication on your own experiences seeing how the characters work through it.
royal wadi
oooh that makes sense
wispy ginkgo
Yup, each character got good development through the game
royal wadi
surprisingly im chill with meg
i get the vibe shes just doing her job when she has to fight you down in tartarus, and is otherwise chill generally
she doesn't seem to want to judge you for anything, shes minding her own business mostly
orchid jewel
forged a bond with hades and cerberus
first to do it with!
i rushed hades when i found out he gave you 5 nectar back
which i am very low on rn
wispy ginkgo
she doesn't seem to want to judge you for anything, shes minding her own busines...
She still ressented Zagreus a lot for what he did, but through bonding with her, it's what you just said, yes
potent ridge
Have you guys considered that the fact that you are already dead and can respawn once you die in the underworld, that death and violence get become a completely different aspect of life / afterlife?
Hades stoping Zag from escaping with violence and armies of minions might be to be compared of a mortal father grounding his son / sending him (back) to his room.
potent matrix
👀
storm river
Not like they can die permanently
amber hemlock
meg is good
storm river
The closest you can get is with the titans, and their essences were spread thin around tartarus
potent ridge
So i see the "post credits" fights outside on the surface as lectures and arguments while they slowly bond.
royal wadi
Zag is very much grounded lmao
potent matrix
groundhog day
i wish you could go up to the cottage after the epilogue at least
wanna see ||mom|| when she's off duty but not yet ready to stand next to cerby babys snacks 
royal wadi
the olympians need to extend protection to zag so he doesn't die after hanging around on the surface for a few minutes
potent matrix
can they tho?
i think thats something nyx would need to do since he is bound to her darkness
she gave him life, so maybe he'd just need to be up about when it's night
royal wadi
i still dunno why zag cant survive on the surface for more than a few minutes
potent matrix
ALSO MENDELY HYPNOS IS WAITING D:
orchid jewel
youd think the olympians would realise past apoint
somber estuary
i still dunno why zag cant survive on the surface for more than a few minutes
Darkness codex entry
royal wadi
hypnos time
orchid jewel
that zagreus is dying every time he goes the surface
potent matrix
hypnos time :)
orchid jewel
and help him
royal wadi
if you see me typing please hit me with the brick of sleep
potent matrix
that zagreus is dying every time he goes the surface
cause he is clouded in darkness, as is the whole glade and the way to the cottage
orchid jewel
yeah i'm not asking why
potent matrix
if you see me typing please hit me with the brick of sleep
😂 will do
but also no meme drawing in secret
orchid jewel
i'm just saying youd thinkt he olympians would help zagreus survive on it if they really believed and wanted him up there
somber estuary
Achilles theorizes that ||Zag can't leave the underworld for long because his immortal life is bound to Darkness (since Nyx resurrected him by using Darkness) and Darkness always returns to the Underworld. It's possible he could survive longer at night but because he ALMOST NEVER EFFING SLEEPS it's always just before dawn when he gets up there!|| Haha I'm only half kidding...
potent matrix
hahahahaa
orchid jewel
i dont think you need to sleep when you're immortal
somber estuary
||Persephone|| jokingly tells Zag that maybe ||he is bound to the underworld because he eats so much pomegranate.||
potent ridge
If he could stay on the survive it would be too much of a "happy ending" from Hollywood. I dislike that.
I love tragic sad endings of Super Giant games.
orchid jewel
i mean
potent matrix
||Persephone|| **jokingly** tells Zag that maybe ||he is bound to the underworld...
that was such a funny line omg, what a legend
orchid jewel
its a bittersweet ending isnt it
not at the epilogue yet so idk what happens
there
but
||persephone returns to the underworld and zagreus gets to live happily with everyone in the underworld ||
potent matrix
||persephone returns to the underworld and zagreus gets to live happily with eve...
i wonder if thats the reason why you see those flashbacks of "mean" hades memories when you start running, so you get some of that teenage rebelliousness back to give your all against father dearest workers
somber estuary
I'm sure that if Supergiant had any plans to revisit the Hades world later down the line there are no end of possible manners in which Zag could survive a little longer on the surface to get into further shenanigans. But until they cross that river and start doing sequels and expansions I think it will have to remain firmly planted in our imaginations.
potent matrix
ooooh who was the artist for the backgrounds again? jen z. or somebody different?
cause i'd love to see their version of greece at night
orchid jewel
also
|| i can nearly free sisyphus, just need 1 more diamond to pay the contract i found ||
prisma bridge
pog
somber estuary
orchid jewel
i found || orpheus and eurydice singing together also last run ||
somber estuary
orchid jewel
i presume to get eurydices favour i need to
get her alone but
im glad theyr together i want to start giving ambrosia though
somber estuary
I think it still treats Eurydice with Orpheus as regular Eurydice, just that some conversations will/won't trigger perhaps?
Like, it doesn't let you talk to just Orpheus when it happens, only Eurydice or both together.
orchid jewel
yeah but i didnt have the option to like
chat specifically or gift so i presume i need a conversation by herself to gain the favour
somber estuary
I think I was able to ambrosia her when Orpheus was there but it was long after the first time he showed up.
somber estuary
I think she had to exhaust the duo dialogues first.
orchid jewel
hopefully i can get it next time i see them together
whenevr i see eurydice
and hopefully orpheus also pops up in the house so i can give ambrosia
potent matrix
yes but just personal 1 on 1 dialogue on eurydice is needed for the chibi ;-;
somber estuary
The treebi
potent matrix
cute
sad there arent chibi stickers in the codex tho of like relationships or just generally the chibis
orchid jewel
wdym
obsidian jay
i know the story between mom and dad now
not from hades spoilers, or hades the game itself, but from a greek mythology vid
orchid jewel
yeah well
potent matrix
overly sarcastic productions?
obsidian jay
i mean it's not confirmed but the game is true to the myths
obsidian jay
yeaa
obsidian jay
the life guide in yt
potent matrix
i knew the story of orpheus
latin class? 👀
orchid jewel
no
i listened to an album thats a concept album where orpheus is one of the main characters
got addicted to the album and incredibly fixated on orpheus
and basically learned about all the mythology to do with him
from that
potent matrix
thank you
tough wedge
the myths have existed before hades
what are you talking about
hades is a unique and original game with story concepts seen nowhere else /j
stiff sun
so is it just me, or does ||Demeter show up far less when Persephone is on olympus?||it feels like she never shows up when ||mother is away||
stiff sun
thats what i was thinking but its been quite a few runs without her
and i didnt notice till hermes mentioned her visiting
which means theres coding on SOME level to know shes not there
coral flower
I've done 65 runs and I still can't ||Trigger Hypnos's favor||
stiff sun
deadass same
potent matrix
you need to ||talk to than about hypnos||
some favors are joined my friends
if you cant find their favor most likely talk to somebody they're close to
stiff sun
||than/ nyx?||
unreal mesa
I barely have any favors done and got 70 runs in. Oof
woeful patrol
that is SUCH A COOL ENCOUNTER!!
potent matrix
||than/ nyx?||
yee
woeful patrol
just fought ||All 3 Furies at once||
potent matrix
ohh welcome to EM1
woeful patrol
Epsilon1Mu1
umbral musk
i listened to an album thats a concept album where orpheus is one of the main ch...
Y'all should check out the album Hadestown, by Anais Mitchell.
potent matrix
does it in any way relate to the musical hadestown?
umbral musk
On the subject of concept albums about Orpheus, Eurydice, Hades, etc
potent matrix
or just a coincidence?
umbral musk
It's the studio recording of that music, as far as I know
But I'm not familiar with the musical, just the music
Did y'all already talk about it, and I missed it?
orchid jewel
oh yeah
been meaning to check out that musical
for like
weeks
over a month probably
orchid jewel
just || paid off sispyhus contracts :) ||
|| first companion next time i meet him !! another favour got ||
potent ridge
OMFG I just summoned Dusa in a fight where Thanatos is there.
He be like "Woot, Dusa is here?"
She be like: "hi, Than!"
😄
What if I use Mort in a Than fight? Will he be like "? ? ?" and not appear?
somber estuary
Heh, try summoning her during a trial of the gods vs Athena or when you use Athena's greater call.
somber estuary
Yeah Mort can't be used in Than challenges. Batty can't be used in any Tartarus final boss. Rib can't be used in ||Charon|| battles. Mort, Batty, Fidi, and Antos cannot be used vs ||Hades|| until ||he gives them permission||.
static orbit
than just made a harry potter reference at me how are you all today
coral flower
How do you ||fight charon?||
spice ice
it broke my heart when i tried to summon dusa after ||nyx fired her||
orchid jewel
|| in a mid region shop (as in not the shop before the boss, steal a bag of gold behind him ( it has a 20 percent or so chance)||
potent ridge
it broke my heart when i tried to summon dusa after ||nyx fired her||
Wait, why what happens if you do?
spice ice
Wait, why what happens if you do?
she doesn't show up and Zag says "huh guess she really is gone"
potent ridge
I always thought /spoiler message: she gets fired always before you get full hearts with her.
Didn´t know that can happen afterwards.
wind drum
Happened like 20 runs after for me, idk why it took so long.
Ok maybe not 20 but like a dozen.
wind drum
I did rush it ASAP, lol. Her and Meg. I’m basic like that.
orchid jewel
i nearly have meg
i just need like a few more convos probably to gain favour
ive gained cerebus, hades, orpheus and eurydice already
and will gain sisphyus next time imeet him
twilit apex
Skelly isnt too bad to get either imo
dark stirrup
Man, getting the Epilogue unlocked takes a very long time
I have ||every Olympian at their locked Favor level and I cannot seem to progress any of them except Hermes, who's already fully maxed out||
orchid jewel
||i still need to give the olympians so much nectar||
unreal mesa
||Nooo, Dusa gets fired?||
final echo
So Achilles makes it sound like polyamory is A-okay in this game, just wanted to make sure it was since Zag seems to confess his feelings before you get the choice of yay or nay, at least with Thanatos
neat crow
It's fine, yes
final echo
I appreciate that kind of consideration for a game like this, especially given exactly what Achilles says. Gods aren't known for their strict monogamy
unreal mesa
Than is so hard to get in my case :c
orchid jewel
|| does dusa get rehired? ||
prime mulch
||yes||
orchid jewel
that's good
jolly igloo
are there additional skelly trinkets other than the Keepsake/Companion? I still have the steam achivements for his first and second "prizes"
neat crow
Those are for the heat challenges
somber estuary
How do you ||fight charon?||
||During mid zone shops there is a chance for an obdol sack labeled with the "Borrow?" prompt to appear beside him. Borrow those obdols and he'll drag you into Erebus to pay with sparring. Watch out for his upper body strength, he rowed crew in college.||
jolly igloo
Those are for the heat challenges
ah, will it come up in dialogue eventually? I already maxed my bond with him
neat crow
It's not a bond issue, you have to win with certain heat thresholds
somber estuary
Huh... now that I think about it, Skelly has like 5 things he can give you.
neat crow
If you see the 3 cloth covered objects at the bottom of the training room, that is what you're looking for
jolly igloo
If you see the 3 cloth covered objects at the bottom of the training room, that ...
what heat thresholds are they
latent hill
sadly i havent gotten a companion yet XD
latent hill
what heat thresholds are they
i believe the first one requires 6 or 8 heat, the second 16 and the last, idk bc i havent gotten that unlocked yet
orchid jewel
first is 8
latent hill
oki :]
jolly igloo
ive done like...14 heat so far so ill keep going
latent hill
😄
humble juniper
what heat thresholds are they
It's 8, 16, and 32
If you get stuck at 32, come over to the high-heat strat channel. 🙂
prime mulch
ye 32 is big boy number
neat crow
ive done like...14 heat so far so ill keep going
Are the cloth-covered objects present in the training room? If they are, go up to them and interact with them. If you've cleared 14 heat already you should be able to unveil the first one for the first achievement
jolly igloo
Are the cloth-covered objects present in the training room? If they are, go up t...
I actually haven't checked! Ill look now
okay yeah I got the first one sick
thx
neat crow
fallen latch
Ahhhhh omg the theme song of ||Greece|| is just so gorgeous
It sounds like a movie soundtrack it’s beaaaautiful
I’m only on my 3rd clear but with that soundtrack and ||persephone|| saying “zagreus” in that motherly way just has me in the feels
It makes my heart soar
wind drum
Ikr? I love that it ||uses completely different instruments from the rest of the game.||
fallen latch
It’s so gorgeous!! Even the art style and the ||sun and the ocean and the garden and the lighting|| is so different and ethereal
And ||Everytime the dialogue winds down and zagreus is in pain my heart breaks SO much for him||
This ||entire 2 minute interaction with Persephone and this beautiful soundtrack|| literally motivates me SO much to clear
jolly igloo
the way they use story as a reward is really good for spurring play
tough wedge
||the music when zagreus perishes 😩||
im sorry zag
the only thing i dont like about ||greece|| is that the music doesnt loop very cleanly if you stay too long
but like, thats really minor
fallen latch
Yeah like this game rewards you so much it’s so addictive
snow dove
I keep forgetting how incestuous greek mythology is, especially with the earlier gods where there just. were not that many gods around to have children
reading through some of the greek god pages on wikipedia and forgot that erebus was nyx's brother, thought he was her son or something
rare steppe
how come in ||the end cards when you beat a run after 10 clears, it says something about how Zagreus dies in a weird and unique way, even though they already established that he can't spend more than a few minutes on the surface in the first place?||
terse spear
Spoiler alert: he gets killed by a goat
rare steppe
i like the one where ||he slips on a banana peel, but it's super formal and overexplained||
just so much potential for comedy in those screens
terse spear
That one's good too lol
I like the one where ||he learns bears are not as cuddly as they seem||
And then you reach a point where the narrator just says that he died in some way
somber estuary
That is definitely the best one. Because it doesn't actually mention what specifically killed him in the explanation, and then the title of the death fades in and just says || B E A R S||.
sweet turret
The narrator is comedy gold
terse spear
I love how in the flashback scenes zag tells him to be quiet
sweet turret
I want to give to the narrator ngl
somber estuary
You kinda do...
calm sonnet
I'm not giving the nectar to the narrator if he kept roasting me for no reason /j
dark stirrup
Is there something specific to trigger the War-God's Bloodlust prophecy?
Trying to complete ||Ares' Favor, and I have well over 10k kills total but that prophecy just isn't in my list||
orchid jewel
i think it might be
something to do with nectar
i need to give ares more nectar to see
dark stirrup
I've given everyone except Cerberus the max nectar
calm sonnet
also im not being rude but why do we still spoiler some deets? the description of this channel literally says "all spoilers welcome"
orchid jewel
||arthur||
calm sonnet
and mcdonalds @atomic forge
warm ginkgo
mcdonalds
orchid jewel
was mentioned as a future aspect
somber estuary
I want to give <:nectar:730890378563026965> to the narrator ngl
The Narrator also voices many other -able characters so technically you do.
calm sonnet
yeah did you see the food thing that restores ur health? it has fries @atomic forge
orchid jewel
maybe in the canon
somber estuary
Is there something specific to trigger the War-God's Bloodlust prophecy?
You definitely have the list already it seems, I think you just need to keep talking to him until he gets to that dialogue and puts it on the list. ||I do not know if you have to nectar Ares up to the lock for it to appear though...||
warm ginkgo
ohrightiforgotaboutthefries
somber estuary
There are specific comments that put a relatively solid date on the game's world timeline.
orchid jewel
they mention a war
somber estuary
and i think that's... shawarma? or taco?
It looks like a gyro to me.
orchid jewel
a big one
calm sonnet
never tried a gyro
is it a greek snack? like a real-life greek snack?
the gyro i mean
orchid jewel
any ideas about which war it is
open berry
also im not being rude but why do we still spoiler some deets? the description o...
courtesy
calm sonnet
To be fair, sleep masks aren't invented in Ancient Greece either and yet Hypnos is wearing one
they can have a little bit of artistic liberty, as a treat
orchid jewel
it could be world war 1 or 2
if trh have chips
and it's a big war
i think chips existed in the 20th century
calm sonnet
Didn't Ares say that any weapon that resembles the Exagryph hasn't been made yet by mortals?
orchid jewel
you also have to factor in
somber estuary
They do specifically mention that the mortals have not discerned the secrets of the adamant rail, the gun, yet but that they clearly will since the infernal arms are basically conceptual ideals.
snow dove
My friend says the earliest date mentioned in the date is ||guan yu||'s whole deal, so that puts the game at before 600 AD
calm sonnet
the ||eternal winter||?
snow dove
@atomic forge the prophecy for it says his tale has yet to be spun
mentioned in the game*
oh I'm sorry
calm sonnet
and sleep masks
orchid jewel
|| zagreus said arthur was a future aspect when he revealed it in my game ||
snow dove
wikipedia says he died in 220
calm sonnet
I think this is why Devs never specify a certain timeline, discussions like these would be a pain in the cells
terse spear
Is there anything in greek mythology that talks about an unusual winter
orchid jewel
that's why i said pre medieval
snow dove
also, and this isnt' saying much, Ares at one point implies humans have not waged war in the skies yet
calm sonnet
Is there anything in greek mythology that talks about an unusual winter
the Tale of Persephone, yes
terse spear
Is there a time period on that
calm sonnet
no
somber estuary
Keep in mind that the mortals don't get to eat the cool food in the underworld that exists simply so shades which don't even need to eat anymore get to kind of have fun pretending so that little anachronism is covered with the whole gyro and fries thing.
terse spear
Drat
orchid jewel
planes weren't around around until the 1900s right
fallen latch
Yep Demeter plunged the world into winter when persephone was stuck in the underworld because she ate the Pom seeds
snow dove
iirc ||demeter causes an eternal winter until zeus forces hades to give persephone back||
fallen latch
This was like 4000 bc
somber estuary
We know from comments of the characters that it's post Trojan war, pre Guan Yu, pre guns, pre airplanes, and there is currently a really big war happening in Greece.
fallen latch
Or something crazy in mythology
snow dove
and then ||Hades insists that persephone return using the pomegranate seeds as a technicality||
some random website I went to implies that ||persephone willingly ate the pomegranate seeds knowing that hades respects her more than the other gods||
calm sonnet
I think the big war is the result of Demeter putting Greece in eternal winter
somber estuary
In most versions of the myths, Persephone does actually love Hades, just their circumstances are a little complicated.
snow dove
sure
somber estuary
But yeah, kidnapping was pretty par for the course with the gods most of the time.
snow dove
That sounds reasonable to me
fallen latch
There’s two theories, one is that ||hades abducted Persephone and kept her against her will|| and the other is that || persephone willingly went and ate the seeds to be with him but didn’t want to leave her mother||
calm sonnet
some random website I went to implies that ||persephone willingly ate the pomegr...
meanwhile in Hades game, ||Persephone doesn't really need the seeds but is only saying these to like, convince Demeter to let her have 6 months in the Underworld||, or so I heard
snow dove
@calm sonnet mm ok that sounds reasonable
somber estuary
Achilles also has a comment on the rail.
But pretty much same idea.
Meg too if I recall?
orchid jewel
question
terse spear
It's between 1180BCE (Trojan war) and 200CE (Gran Yu)
calm sonnet
<@!301756945977704462> mm ok that sounds reasonable
Yeah ||Persephone can come and go as much as she pleases, I think she just uses the Seed thing as a tool of convincing?||
terse spear
Future aspect
orchid jewel
is another aspect derived from the future
snow dove
this is gods technology so presumably doesn't say much
orchid jewel
his aspect
calm sonnet
@orchid jewel 🎵 The sun light is a deadly laser 🎵
somber estuary
While I don't think the exact war is nailed down yet, since the war they reference appears to be centered around Greece and is definitely post Trojan war, I've heard a lot of people theorizing it's the war between Sparta and Athens?
snow dove
@atomic forge About as much as stuff like ||beowulf|| and ||gilgamesh||
somber estuary
It's like a 50 year war.
orchid jewel
yeah its probably referring to the concept of the devil
calm sonnet
and ||Hindu (Rama) and Chinese Pantheon (Guan Yu)||
snow dove
||Guan Yu|| is a real person though
snow dove
calm sonnet
oops my b
open berry
dialogue for lucifer implies past
somber estuary
Achilles and Zag very briefly wonder about other parts of the world since as far as he knows there is only one entrance to the underworld but there could be other afterlifes or other versions of themselves and, well, Master Chaos sure ain't spilling the beans because it's too much fun observing.
fallen latch
yeah they did coexist in real life too
calm sonnet
Why question that when ||Rama's weapons|| also exist too?
naaah
naaah it's not paradoxical
somber estuary
I know Hades never gives Zag a clear answer when Zag asks if the legends that have already happened involving his infernal arms are somewhere in their underworld, so take that as you want.
snow dove
@atomic forge The game plays fast and loose with the real mythology it's based on
orchid jewel
were other gods or deities or higher beings outside of greek gods
calm sonnet
Yeah Greek Mythology is public domain, after all
fallen latch
I mean greek mythology evolved into Roman and then developed the cult of mithras and then the campaigns into India and egypt introduced those deities to the Greeks too
somber estuary
Like, when Zag talks about ||Lucifer|| it's like he's identifying with him since they both had trouble with their father and Hades is like "shut up you have no idea what you're touching on there".
fallen latch
It’s just in the mythology they wouldn’t be mentioned cuz that’s separate
But historically and culturally they just coexisted and the Greeks knew of other deities and gods from other regions
snow dove
@somber estuary lmfao that's a good one
open berry
also some comments from greg about the 4th aspects that answers why they're non-greek
fallen latch
And also if we keep this strictly about hades game mythology, zagreus talking about Lucifer isn’t the same as humans talking about Lucifer right
calm sonnet
Yep
orchid jewel
not really is it
fallen latch
Cuz if you’re an ancient deity you can assume you just know the others
orchid jewel
the son of a god and goddess
fallen latch
Without humans discovering
orchid jewel
probably has a very different relationship with lucifer than any human
somber estuary
Ehhhh... Hades seems to know more but isn't telling because it's complicated and from a dev perspective it is definitely more appropriate to keep it vague.
snow dove
I don't think hades has any downright malevolent gods
fallen latch
Yeah and it’s probably just nice to throw in some Easter eggs
snow dove
except ||demeter|| lol
calm sonnet
again, if I were a Dev I would keep it vague because I don't want to think too much
snow dove
so ||lucifer|| would be... strange
fallen latch
lol like in Percy jackson sometimes the Greek gods will mention meeting a Norse god back in the day or whatever
calm sonnet
I don't think hades has any downright malevolent gods
What's the name of that goddess who threw a golden apple that started a Trojan War?
snow dove
all the other gods tell ||demeter|| to calm down ||and she's just like how about maybe YOU chill||
fallen latch
So i assume hades is doing the same thing
open berry
What's the name of that goddess who threw a golden apple that started a Trojan W...
eris
snow dove
@calm sonnet Eris!
somber estuary
What's the name of that goddess who threw a golden apple that started a Trojan W...
She's one of your gun aspects
snow dove
Eris
calm sonnet
Right Ers
open berry
eris threw the apple, the war was started between athena, hera and aphrodite
snow dove
A golden apple, carved with "For the fairest"
calm sonnet
I think Eris is the closest to a Malevolent god... in human standrads
somber estuary
My favorite one overall because I'm bad with Hestia and bad with Lucifer and meh with Zag.
umbral epoch
The fact that lucifer is mentioned raises a few questions
Zeus seems to have at least heard who lucifer is
snow dove
Hermes and Chaos are both tricksters but not actively malevolent
Erebus is I think not a real person but a place
calm sonnet
if Aphro favored Paris and Athena favored Ody, who did Hera favor then?
snow dove
unlike chaos, who is a person and a place, and hades, who is also a person and a place
fallen latch
Idk if it raises questions right like the Greeks were active until well after 0 BC and also from a mythological perspective, zeus knowing about Lucifer is probably well before any human would have written it as scripture right
somber estuary
The whole person and a place thing is paralleled in ||Abbadon's|| old mythology.
snow dove
||Demeter|| IS actively malevolent though because ||she's taking out her anger about persephone on the humans||
umbral epoch
In hades, you have to fight your way out of hades and then fight ||hades||
fallen latch
@snow dove lol this is all the gods all the time tho
calm sonnet
||Demeter|| IS actively malevolent though because ||she's taking out her anger a...
yeaaah no, ||Demeter even kept the Temple of Styx frozen over even if she ended the Eternal Winter upon Perseph's return||
BUT THEN AGAIN, y'all never heard of how Hera is being mean to any child Zeus has? Like say, the Tale of Heracles?
or Perseus?
fallen latch
She was mean to her own kid too
somber estuary
She feels justified though. And she does say she still hands out boons to mortals just VERY infrequently and not just based on simple quantity of offerings and pleas to her ||until after the epilogue||.
fallen latch
The only one she likes is Ares
calm sonnet
Who, Hera?
snow dove
I keep getting hera and athena mixed up
fallen latch
Yep
snow dove
I think because of the armor
calm sonnet
wait Ares's mom is Hera??
fallen latch
Yep ares and Hephaestus
Are her true kids
And she distrusted Aphrodite so she made her marry Hephaestus
But ares and aphro do their own thing anyway
calm sonnet
Okay yeah Hera is mean to Hephaestus :/ But that's Hera for ya ig
somber estuary
Is there any version of the Heracles myth where Hera is neutral to Heracles or where Heracles seeks supplication to her and someone else ruins his day either to spite Zeus or not?
calm sonnet
the Disney movie version
somber estuary
Oh but that was before the whole poison shirt thing, right?
calm sonnet
the Disney variation is the only version where Hera is nice to Heracles
and that's because they made Hera his mom, not the mortal one
fallen latch
I knew there were horses and lions and pigs
orchid jewel
the lion
fallen latch
The stables
calm sonnet
I know Heracles has to clean the stables at one point
orchid jewel
something to do with fruit?
fallen latch
Yep the apples
calm sonnet
the golden apple yes
orchid jewel
so heracles killed the hydra right
orchid jewel
ans that's why it's in asphodel fleshless
fallen latch
Lernie was his quest an
Ah apparently that hydra had 9 heads
And that’s why it has 9 in asphodel too
somber estuary
Oh hey speaking of Cerberus do you think that the ||Cthonic Companion|| that ||Hades|| uses to ||Summon Cerberus|| is ||Orthy?||
calm sonnet
Lol the Cerberus labor was so funny
Imagine being Hades and you find out that your brother's kid had to apparently wrestle your best boi for a labor
"Zeus's kids back at it again..."
fallen latch
Have y’all read song of Achilles
calm sonnet
no, but I heard that it's depressing
orchid jewel
they were gay right in the myth
fallen latch
Also Circe has a bit of backstory about the Minotaur as well but not so much
Super gay yep
somber estuary
Disney: COUSINS!!!
orchid jewel
that's why achillean isa term for mlm
calm sonnet
I just know Ach and Pat love each other very much except Ach died, and then Pat lived but still had to fight a war and died to Hector
Achilles 🤝 Sappho
orchid jewel
yes
fallen latch
yep they were crazy about each other
somber estuary
Achilles: clutching the rotting corpse of Patroclus and weeping
The Shade of Patroclus: Damn, #####, you live like this?
fallen latch
hahahahah
calm sonnet
Wait who died first? Achilles or Patroclus?
fallen latch
Patroclus
somber estuary
Pat
calm sonnet
I thought i was Ach
fallen latch
That’s why Achilles went crazy
somber estuary
Achilles went ballistic because of Pat dying.
fallen latch
With rage
calm sonnet
huh, so that's why Achilles went on a murder-rage
orchid jewel
that reminds me of a mechanisms song
fallen latch
ye then the arrow to his foot
somber estuary
We call it Hector time.
fallen latch
And he ded
calm sonnet
the only two things of the story I know about are:
- Eris and the Apple
- Horse
stuck wolf
just unlocked Lucifer aspect, and wow it's so nice with Lightning Strike
orchid jewel
someone's "best friend" dies in war and he goes on a rampage and blows up a moon
fallen latch
They were gal pals but dudes
orchid jewel
achilles didn't blow up a moon
somber estuary
Lucifer is fun with like, firehose mode and beerbong mode but so far my favorite Lucifer run was the cold beam.
fallen latch
Achilles 🤝 Starlord
orchid jewel
i'm talking about gunpowder tim
calm sonnet
STARLORD AKDNASKDASNDJ
orchid jewel
specifically from the mechanisms song gunpowder tim vs the moon kaiser
fallen latch
THATS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED THO
calm sonnet
YOU MEAN STARLORD KILLING HIS DAD WHO HAPPENED TO BE A LIVING PLANET?
orchid jewel
he didn't die in the war though after the moon thing
he lost his eyes and became an immortal space pirate
fallen latch
I meant starlord going ballistic in avengers hahaha
calm sonnet
Oh shucks you're right
fallen latch
Wait who is a space pirate
orchid jewel
gunpowder tim
orchid jewel
oh
fallen latch
OH I was like now that’s a plot twist in hades for the Achilles story
orchid jewel
i havent seen that
calm sonnet
and that led to his death (kind of)
orchid jewel
only the first gotg
fallen latch
I was like how many nectars to unlock that??
calm sonnet
Infinity War SUCKS, don't bother watching it
just watch two GOTG films and leave it at that
somber estuary
Man I just don't know how I feel about the movie version of Starlord having Ego as his dad, because both versions of J'Son were fun overbearing dads/space mobsters.
calm sonnet
What's the requirement of a warrior being in Elysium? Or did Patroclus really mean it when the requirement is based on "how many enemies you've beaten"?
somber estuary
Also how they never had a Nova officially on the team and kinda pushed the whole Nova thing away offscreen.
somber estuary
What's the requirement of a warrior being in Elysium? Or did Patroclus really me...
It's literally just "be great" and having Hades decide "that qualifies".
orchid jewel
|| i thought achilles made a deal to get patroclus in elysium ||
calm sonnet
|| i thought achilles made a deal to get patroclus in elysium ||
||he did||
somber estuary
Yes. Hades has the ultimate decision.
somber estuary
Hades is picky.
calm sonnet
but whatevs wasn't Patroclus sentenced to Asphodel instead for a whole? that's probably not so bad (until the River flooded too much and turned into an oven)
fallen latch
But also most of the time hades doesn’t care and it’s a panel of judges
And he only gets involved for the “special” cases
sweet creek
hey there, I am confused and not sure if I want to look this up: I just reached the credits for the first time, but I have not unlocked the final heart levels for some characters like Sysiphos. Did I do something wrong? Are those triggered by some stuff that I need to specifically know?
stuck wolf
most hearts are unlocked not by runs but by how many times you talk to people/doing favours
sweet creek
sysiphos never asked me any favors, and I cannot give him any more nectar
that's why I am kinda confused
I mean, some of the gods also have their last hearts locked for some reason, but there I guess I have an idea why
it is so weird because he is the first character you meet outside the house (after defeating meg for the first time)
open berry
the game is set up in a way its very easy to reach the credits before ever finishing out bonds for anyone. you havent done anything wrong
stuck wolf
I've heard it's possible to use companions against Hades, but what enables that? I'm already past the credits
inner dune
Summoned than fighting meg and than said “keep going” and when meg died she said “keep going” I’m about to start crying
snow dove
<3
manic dawn
||I just wanna make sure even though I'm almost positive I'm right... to Romance Than I chose comfort him right... like ahhh||
Nvm I figured it out
late cape
I keep beating the game but Orpheus and Than won't show up.
||Let me release you and make you my boyfriend||
respectively
calm sonnet
you want to court Orpheus?
wait you said "respectively", nevermind
does anyone know how to earn Nyx's favor?
late cape
Cerberus is also not appearing, making his bond hard to max.
Is it just bad luck?
Also Alecto 5 times in a row...
dry ore
does anyone know how to earn Nyx's favor?
tied to Chaos
calm sonnet
tied to Chaos
sure what do I do with Chaos?
calm sonnet
you can spoil me about it
oh yeah, i should give Chaos some nectar more often.... I wasn't able to give nectar to Nyx anymore
prime mulch
you will need to reunite them through the elder sigil, and uts all dialogue progression i guess
dry ore
the prophecy only triggers once you have both affinity raised to locks
late cape
I love the irony in these boons
"Beowulf's shield protected him from the dragon"
...sure it did
sour yacht
How do I finish "A Place of Revelry"? I've renovated the lounge but nothing has happened.
late cape
I think it needs..pretty much every type
I know I included cutlery, silverware, rugs, cake, shortcut, dog treat, seating, stove..
sour yacht
Oh, you just need to buy everything?
late cape
Also, completing it requires talking to Dusa.
Not everything, but every type of thing, I believe.
sour yacht
I see, thank you. I was getting mixed results from asking online.
late cape
The only thing I know for certain is not literally everything, and talking to Dusa results in her saying "Wow, thanks"
It might also require getting her to a certain level?
...also, don't try to speedrun with Guan Yu's aspect.
You have to chose between maximizing damage from the mirror and being able to use Chaos boons at the start
otherwise you're too low to use the chaos gate
open berry
"Beowulf's shield protected him from the dragon"
its more interesting than that. you take more damage when using the aspect, because in the story the dragon fatally wounded beowulf
late cape
Beowulf's weapons have a history of sucking.
His famous sword "Hrunting" broke against some old lady.
lean osprey
Beowulf's weapons have a history of sucking.
His famous sword "Hrunting" broke ...
really?
no wonder his shield sucks
open berry
I just think it's clever to have incorporated the story itself in the aspect's effect.
whether its good or not is another discussion entirely
but the theming is on point
its the attention to detail i appreciate
lean osprey
ohh
calm sonnet
or well.... known for how long it took for someone to pull it out of the stone
late cape
Lucifer is known for lasers
lean osprey
and rama was a great archer
calm sonnet
I'm very happy that Rama of Ramayana made it to the Hidden Aspect gang
lean osprey
yea
calm sonnet
Asian gang ✊
lean osprey
me too haha
calm sonnet
us South and Southeast Asians are ignored for too long lmao
but that's a topic for another never
lean osprey
yesh
livid wharf
I wonder if Patroclus wasn't allowed on Elysium initially because of his false identity stunt. But then again, trickery would mean Odysseus wouldn't be allowed either.
calm sonnet
Didn't Theseus kind of trick his girlfriend Ariadne?
like, ditched her or something?
obsidian jay
why is it that hephaestus ain't in the game
wispy ginkgo
like, ditched her or something?
I don't think she was his girlfriend in the first place, she was in love with him and there's a promise to marry her once he's done with the minotaur, but when he came back victorious, he abandoned her.
somber estuary
Her yarn is what helped him through the labyrinth but he didn't love her back.
royal wadi
i keep forgetting the hammer isn't hephaestus lmao
calm sonnet
I don't think she was his girlfriend in the first place, she was in love with hi...
then why bother marrying her if he's not even reciprocating?
wispy ginkgo
then why bother marrying her if he's not even reciprocating?
As Deucalion said, she gave him the yarn to help him find his way back in the labyrinth, but the condition was to marry her afterward, which he agreed.
Theseus came back victorious, but on the way back he left Ariadne, because if I'm correct, it was Ariadne who made Theseus promise he'd marry her.
atomic forge
what condition must be met to unlock Aspects? I don't want the pinned message in this channel to spell it out for me but prefer to have a vague pointer instead
halcyon cipher
broad strokes: invest in your weapons and their aspects, and get the fated list if you haven't already
atomic forge
I feel the condition could have already been met after 50 attempts of which two successful with the same weapon. not considering the fact that I'm doing something downright wrong, that is
pine rock
Did you press the key to equip a weapon twice?
atomic forge
I did not 😳
pine rock
Well.. there they are
atomic forge
I do not know what to say except that doing so would have never occured to me if I wouldn't have asked. you have my thanks
pine rock
We all get stuck sometimes on some stuff for no reason. No Problem.
atomic forge
I feel awfully stupid right now but I'm happy to say a friend of mine didn't know either 🤡 🤝
coarse knot
Hey so
I gave nectar to hades but now the next heart has a lock
What do I need to do?
Or will the game tell me?
Same with Aphrodite
Her last heart has a stupid lock
upbeat willow
Aphrodite requires you to reach max hearts (and receive their bond forged message) with three specific characters
for Hades, keep doing more runs ^_^
royal wadi
gift everybody, aphrodite will let you into her heart eventually :)
coarse knot
Can I get the poster signed? @royal wadi
royal wadi
poster?
atomic forge
Aphrodite Wall-Scroll
tough wedge
whats next? aphrodite bath water?
atomic forge
You never know
coarse knot
Im gonna give her nectar and tell her to give me her bath water
royal wadi
Technically the Styx is Zag's bath water
it's also Achilles' bath water (except his heel)
royal wadi
youre that shade that died of dehydration trying to get a glimpse of aphrodite, aren't you
jk
coarse knot
Yeah
Lmaoo
I wanted to romance Alecto but i dont think I can
So ill have to settle for old Meg
royal wadi
Alecto has no thoughts, only angery
royal wadi
meg's cool, yo
paper hinge
||dusa will return? Nyx fired her.||
sterile patio
||she can be re-hired||
royal wadi
||tfw nyx fires dusa but not mr. sleeps on the job||
paper hinge
@sterile patio thanks
desert grove
I just got my ||10th|| clear and ||holy all of that ending was beautiful, and I looooooooooooooved charon boating us on the styx etc|| (end game spoilers)
low tapir
why is it so funny to me that the aspect of lucifer implies he had a laser gun
...also why is skelly telling me to kill him
like what happens if i actually kill him does he just go away permanently
stuck wolf
I haven't done the Skelly challenge statues yet, but have the option to perma kill him - if I do so do I miss out on them?
plush dirge
@stuck wolf Well, i dont meant to spoil it to you, but he won't disappear entirely.
plush dirge
Yeah that's right boio, give him some real beating
flat beacon
Wait, how many different Duo Boon conversations are there?
I just got a new one for Splitting Headache
fresh cobalt
Question: How many of the little flasks you need to give to each god to trigger the ending?
terse spear
6 nectar and 1 ambrosia per god
fresh cobalt
thanks
low tapir
how much ambrosia in total?
sick sparrow
I finally got into Hades' chambers and saw his wardrobe
More than anything else, finding out that he's got ||nothing but disposable capes|| is my favourite plot twist so far
fresh cobalt
how to mark spoilers?
sick sparrow
Put down || before and after the thing you want to spoil
fresh cobalt
thanks
warm ginkgo
So... question: What does ||Hades'|| Boiling Blood do? Does it make me take more damage from ||Hades'|| attacks?
flat beacon
Yes
warm ginkgo
ah, that makes sense. Thanks.
prisma bridge
how do I get patrolocus' keepsake?
whenever I talk to him I can't gift him and he always tells me that there's nothing to talk about or smt like that
lucid creek
Yeah, if you check the codex his entry should let Zag know that it is, in fact, Patrocolus
prisma bridge
ah alright thanks!!
abstract sedge
why are the ||fauns living in like a sewer|| 
low tapir
if i actually kill skelly do i miss out on the prizes and cthonic companion?
i heard he has one but if not i don't think i've maxed out his hearts
orchid jewel
|| fulfilled the sispyhus prophecy and forged a bond with orpheus and eurydice :) ||
lucid creek
Yup, it's really fulfilling. Working on ||Getting some of the character back together by waiving separation orders||
orchid jewel
|| think i may have forgotten to give sispyhus ambrosia to get the companion that run but i got the prophecy and can do it next time i see him to work on forging a bond ||
fresh cobalt
|| can you get Achilles and this Elysium guy back togheter as well?||
lucid creek
||Pretty sure you need to give him ambrosia next run anyway||
low tapir
if i kill skelly now do i miss out on stuff
lucid creek
He's asking if killing and ||releasing|| Skelly will make you miss out on the two extra gifts required for the achievments
sharp mesa
i was just wondering how do i unlock the epilogue ?
lucid creek
If you want spoilers, you have to ||Forge a bond with every god, I believe||
sharp mesa
ambrosia to everyone ?
lucid creek
I believe so, yeah
fresh cobalt
|| you need to give 6 of nectar to every god and then ambrosia i think||
orchid jewel
||i think im only slightly close to forging a bond with ares ||
fresh cobalt
I'm on this part as well rn
orchid jewel
|| has the most hearts and i can easily do his favour ||
lucid creek
I mean, I get constant deals for 15 keys for ambrosia, so I have a lot of it stockpiled
low tapir
He's asking if killing and ||releasing|| Skelly will make you miss out on the tw...
ok so i take it you would know the answer?
lucid creek
I believe that you should hold off on doing it just in case and get the gifts first
sharp mesa
is there a way to farm a lot of nectar
lucid creek
Dionysus can offer instant nectar, so if you really want to you can just use his keepsake and kill yourself once you get it.
sharp mesa
okay thanks for the help
fresh cobalt
yea there's a boon that gives you one nectar
lucid creek
Or don't get it, and repeat until you have what you want
orchid jewel
or do get it
fresh cobalt
and heals you if you pick up any on the way to [Redacted]
lucid creek
Yeah
sharp mesa
||one more thing which companion is worth getting first ? i hheard dusa and megs is pretty good ||
lucid creek
||one more thing which companion is worth getting first ? i hheard dusa and megs...
||Meg is one of the most powerful, and easiest to get as the bond relies on RNG rather than contracting anything. I suggest going after it first, then look into the others||
orchid jewel
i'm just relying on conversations ofr that one
😔
|| already at the locked heart and had the conversation about taking things from the bedroom ||
wild lintel
Bit off topic, but I found this Simic poem maybe someone will appreciate: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/42949/charons-cosmology
atomic forge
@sharp mesa ||bouldy is best because of heals and coins, and 1000 damage is decent. Meg is more damage, but no heals. Dusa is lack luster since bosses can't be petrified.||
low tapir
does skelly have a chthonic companion?
potent matrix
aye
low tapir
just to know is there a reward i get for doing his favor?
potent matrix
his... friendship?
snow dove
Skelly is good for ||wretched sneak|| I've found because it's easier to hit it when he's teleporting around skelly rather than you
tough wedge
who doesnt want to be friends with a sentient skeleton
snow dove
spoilered because I think ||sneak|| only appears after a certain main story progression
fresh cobalt
||Romance with Meg finally UwU||
tough wedge
||not romancing meg for the sole reason that im going to have to kill her over and over :(||
potent matrix
Skelly is good for ||wretched sneak|| I've found because it's easier to hit it w...
and elysium boss
snow dove
theseus maybe but asterious would be... challenging. I think. because all of his attacks hit a huge area
wind vector
Does anyone know if we are getting any updates in the future?
low tapir
who doesnt want to be friends with a sentient skeleton
that's also a practically indestructible training dummy
potent matrix
theseus maybe but asterious would be... challenging. I think. because all of his...
nahhh
tough wedge
how much health does ||rib|| have?
unreal mesa
||Been romancing Meg for a while but Than's always gone ||
snow dove
I mean ||it's actually skelly himself who comes and helps you||
potent matrix
how much health does ||rib|| have?
200 but i think he only gets 1 dmage done per hit
unreal mesa
It says 200 in the wiki
potent matrix
at least thats what happened when i tried to destroy him after doomstone couldnt do it
he only took 1 damage per hit from me, am i just weak
royal wadi
Oh boy I'm glad I could start the achilles/patroclus reuniting quest on this run where I just goof off
tough wedge
probably to avoid friendly fire
snow dove
lucky
royal wadi
Gosh this game gives you so many reasons to keep playing
tough wedge
like thanatos
royal wadi
I really want Achilles and Pat to get back together :'(
tough wedge
and thanatos
royal wadi
you spelled hypnos wrong
snow dove
hypnos is one of my favorites
lucid creek
I managed to get to the point where I need to pay for Sisyphus, Achilles/Patroclus, and Orpheus within 3 days. No way I'm going to be able to pay until I actually beat ||hades|| and unlock ||pact of punishment||, but still have the options in contractor
lucid creek
Currently I need the diamonds to pay the contractor
snow dove
ooh
lucid creek
So I can actually use ambrosia lol
snow dove
I see, diamonds
I haven't gotten to diamonds with sisyphus, achilles, or eurydice yet
achilles has a lot to say that isn't about patroclus, sadly
tough wedge
why within 3 days?
lucid creek
I just sped through the game sory fast cause I got a ridiculous amount of early game nectar
Like 50+
tough wedge
wow
atomic forge
lol nice
lucid creek
Yeah, lots of dionysus and finding lots in chambers
atomic forge
if you don't use your gems for decorating your house, you'll always have enough nectar if you just go into the trader and buy enough nector to have 10 with you every run
royal wadi
unrelated but i love zag memeing at orpheus
him coming up with random nonsense stories to "inspire" orpheus amuses me more than it should
atomic forge
he eventually regrets it
snow dove
I feel bad for orpheus, being deceived like that!
atomic forge
orpheus doesn't even mind when zag tells him he was kidding
royal wadi
does zag want to pick on orpheus or something