#h1-story-discussion

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grizzled siren
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I got it once i had both chairs, the table, and a rug

unreal dagger
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all weapons have a 4th aspect thats hidden, need to do a specific something to get it

hollow patrol
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oh right the hidden one gotcha

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thanks

grizzled siren
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then it just takes RNG for Dusa to talk about it

unreal dagger
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I felt like I messed it up because both of them started saying really generic stuff to me lately.
@chrome birch are both their hearts locked?

chrome birch
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Yeah, but usually I learn about them when their hearts are locked. Now they aren’t tell me anything.

unreal dagger
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so both of them are exhausted in the locked heart?

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nyx is a big part too, and shes involved in like 4 quests, so it might take a while

chrome birch
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Oh!!!! That makes sense. I’m always learning new stuff about her.

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And yeah both exhausted with locked heart.

unreal dagger
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shes the one who knows where the files are, for a lot of quests, so yeah

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just talk to her a lot

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talk to everyone a lot

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as much as you can

chrome birch
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Yeah. I always do. I find so many characters interesting in this game. Even Skelly is turning into an fascinating character.

unreal dagger
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skelly is the best

primal yacht
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Achilles not so subtly suggesting polyamory/3P

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This guy

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Dialogue when you've got both their companions but haven't made bungabunga with either yet

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"One... the other... both?"

signal swan
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Yas

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Harem ending time LETS GOOOO!!!

devout token
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ngl I thought there would be a harem going on but I actually like what SGG did for Meg's and Dusa's paths thus far

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Haven't finished Than's yet

atomic forge
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.-. I maxed charon's relationship at first because i can't offer Ambroise to Nyx

prime mulch
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u need to do her prophecy for nyx and chaos

unreal dagger
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^

hollow patrol
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is there a point of fully maxing the relationship with somebody or did i just waste 4 ambroisa

halcyon terrace
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Who did you max out?

hollow patrol
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dusa

halcyon terrace
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||Check your keepsakes||

hollow patrol
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3 hearts after the companion

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ok

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its the same

halcyon terrace
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Oh right you already got the companion

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Aside from dialogue and the chibi icon there's no gameplay reason

hollow patrol
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ugh

halcyon terrace
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There's something else that happens but I don't wanna say anything about it

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You already maxed her out so it'll happen on its own

hollow patrol
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so maxing does indeed give charecter specific unique dialogue

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but no gameplay effect

halcyon terrace
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Nah

hollow patrol
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is there any good abrosia farming method lol

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besides just doing all the heats

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ig

prime mulch
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fishing

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or just exchange stuff

halcyon terrace
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You can also save up enough gold to buy titan blood at Styx then trade for ambrosia

hollow patrol
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buy titan bloood?

prime mulch
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and u do get specific dialogues if u max any bonds

halcyon terrace
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Yeah trading is your best bet

prime mulch
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and when all bonds is maxed, aphrodite will comment on it

halcyon terrace
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In Styx you can buy Titan Blood or a Diamond, you'll wanna run Golden Touch and Hypnos' keepsake

hollow patrol
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golden touch is the percentage one?

halcyon terrace
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After Tartarus just do a normal run but be sure not to buy anything aside from food if you need it

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Yep

hollow patrol
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okay

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ill start doing that on my low heat runs i suppose

prime mulch
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even zero heat is fine, but u can do faster with specific heats

unreal dagger
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yeah fully bonding does nothing

hollow patrol
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?

unreal dagger
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other than a sticker

hollow patrol
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wdym @prime mulch

prime mulch
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not only a sticker, a bond pun and a relationship quote

unreal dagger
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yeah

prime mulch
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what @hollow patrol

unreal dagger
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same thing

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lol

hollow patrol
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do what faster with what heats

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specific heats?

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which ones to do what faster

unreal dagger
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zero

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to farm blood

prime mulch
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FO, EM2 and TD i guess

unreal dagger
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oh wait

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no

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you cant get ambrosia on styx

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can you?

prime mulch
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i dont think so, never seen one

unreal dagger
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then not really

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only to do heats with your weapons

prime mulch
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no, suffer and exchnage until u get 1 ambrosia

normal kiln
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yeah you can trade for ambrosia

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it’s theoretically possible to get a maxed save file without doing any heat at all

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though it would take a very long time lol

unreal dagger
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just download a save file

devout token
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Quick question has it ever been revealed what the Underworld/Hades' sigil represents

prime mulch
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his beard

unreal dagger
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my take is that he made it so zag can have his own version of the helm of darkness

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as a "thank you" for bringing mom home

left vessel
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SAME

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i got that a few days ago

runic juniper
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And ofc I lost lmao

left vessel
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my butt never clenched so hard

runic juniper
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That fish was literally taunting me zaglol

atomic forge
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I hate him when i fight with the fists and spear...EVEN THE BOW

left vessel
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i main fists rn

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and just spam attack and dash

atomic forge
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I am a fricking main fist

left vessel
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but like count ur dashes if u see his spin attack wind up

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so u can gtfo

serene forge
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Little known fact, you actually unlock the true game ending if you catch that fish Hades was trying to catch

left vessel
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zagreus gets to spend unlimited time on the surface if u do :^)

serene forge
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I'm surprised they dont make your room in Olympus as opulent as the one in Hades; but I suppose the game devs didnt expect many people to catch that fish

ashen latch
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tbh imagine if the surface was a proper playable biome where forest critters and random animals were stronger than the denizens of the underworld

left vessel
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@\supergiant dlc maybe big cerberus pleading eyes

prime mulch
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u do realize that endings you got after the credits mainly revolves on how zagreus dying to normal ways right

left vessel
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ya pretty hilarious how much they make him go thru

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*he slips on the carcass of a yellow fruit and im pretty sure you can guess what happens next"

marble frost
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EM4 & Heat16 done ! Whew, that wasn't easy...

left vessel
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congrats!!! i hate e 4 with a passion

torpid vine
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I love it. So crazy. Plus, the music is killer.

red grove
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Still need to try em4

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The others are easy but in scared of hades lol

marble frost
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thanks god mode

left vessel
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i would love it but the doomstone summon always makes me cringe

red grove
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Dont wanna get spoiled about him

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Actually lemme try it rn fck it

torpid vine
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Good luck!

prime mulch
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ita fun

left vessel
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u got this!!!

red grove
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Overtime i think is appropriate

prime mulch
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just charm him to death

red grove
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Yup overtime is perfectly 16

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Alr leggo

wheat dew
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Lambent plume dodge bonus only stays when its equipped, right?

red grove
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Yerp

wheat dew
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thx

prime mulch
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if u want to use buterfly/plume, just use it for the whole run

wheat dew
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also what is dodge actually, just a chance to negate damage dealt? can it negate trap damage?

prime mulch
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it avoid any atks iirc, not sure abt traps, its like deflect but without reflect

red grove
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This run is already a great start

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Heroic art attack epic aphrodite special with dem fists and also got a bonus 35% attack from chaos

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Amd kinetic hammer for special

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Now i c the struggle of overtime furys

left vessel
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oh god i hate overtime on em furys

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the aoes just come so quick

red grove
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Yo duo boon already

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I swear this run is going too good im gonna choke

prime mulch
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one of my lucky runs have me 4 legen boon and 5 duos iirc

left vessel
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still havent completed the legendary boon prophecy

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still have like 4-5 of them left

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did the duo one tho like way before

red grove
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Special is at ermmm

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310%

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I think i one shot everything with this setup

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Only thing i need is privileged status

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Chill dash i think is the best idea

prime mulch
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i dont like chill dash and aphro dash tbh, range issue

red grove
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I dont like poison dash tho

left vessel
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i find chill dash to be okay tbh but w fists i love taking deflect dash

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but u do need the other athena boon for the curse so ya

red grove
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Looking for an easy privileged status

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Rather not have to stand still and cast in overtime

left vessel
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then i think chill sound fair

prime mulch
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dio and ares dash is good when fighting bosses and wheels

red grove
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Ya know im debating selling heroic artemis attack

prime mulch
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but why

red grove
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If i can get dio attack and then the duo boon with aphrodite

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Hmm

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Nvm im at elysium with 700 gold i should be fine

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Got another 35% damage chaos boon

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Definitely no point of selling now

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Boos butterfly ball in less than 10 seconds

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Jesus

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Nah man this is a perfect run

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Long range attack and long range special hammers

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Im so safe

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Alright so everyone thesus

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Is scary

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Not because of theseus but bec of the bull jesus

prime mulch
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fist is literally easy to conter elysium

red grove
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Phew

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I think i saved my run

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I found 2 kiss of styx in my last 2 styx shops

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2 dd and skelly

dry venture
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im 20 wins in

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and still no guan yu....

atomic forge
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Did you read the spoils ?

dry venture
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yes

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did all of that long time ago

atomic forge
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Oof

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Did you talk to Achille ?

dry venture
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yes

red grove
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Phewwwwwwwwwwwwww

dry venture
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all the time

red grove
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2nd phase one skelly and a dd

atomic forge
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Increased your relationship with him ?

red grove
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This overtime is killing me

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Oops

dry venture
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": Your affinity with these characters is not relevant to unlocking the 4th aspects."

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but its at 2 or 3 hearts or smth

atomic forge
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Unlocked Like Demeter's form forhe fist or smthing else ?

dry venture
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i unlocked bunch of aspects

atomic forge
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How many

dry venture
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and maxed demeter and chiron too

left vessel
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u have to wait then until achiles brings it up

dry venture
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should be about 9 or 10 aspects

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i unlocked

left vessel
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which may take awhile if u have like queued up dialogue

dry venture
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ah okay

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bc he has like some talk to me all the time about demeter my granny or smth

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the last few times i think

left vessel
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as long u have 5 blood across non-zag aspects he'll bring it up at some point

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but ya finish up those queued convos

dry venture
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alright

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thx

cunning anchor
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what is zagreus actually god of?

atomic forge
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God of rebellion lol

left vessel
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god of dying

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not death but dying

atomic forge
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Always when no more heat

left vessel
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but i do like the game leaning towards him being the god of blood

atomic forge
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Yeah, but isn't there like too much blood ?

left vessel
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rlly ties up the whole thing with than 😉

atomic forge
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Like the fricking swimming pool

left vessel
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i mean his default cast is his literal blood so theres that

devout token
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God of Relationships

atomic forge
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God of Date

signal swan
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Aphrodite already exists

cunning anchor
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god of darren korb

torpid vine
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Blood really fits him, though he has attributes that lean towards Rebirth and Bonds too.

rotund kite
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The statue of the poet you unlock for the west Hall, is that meant to be Darren Korb?

torpid vine
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Nope

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It's implied to be ||Homer.||

restive gulch
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Hi, it's getting very difficult for me to get the favor of some olympian gods, I've read the wiki page but it's not super clear, does anybody know something? They are Ares, Artemis, Demeter and Dionysus

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Artemis and Demeter I probably have not talked enough, but i've done everything said in the wiki about the other two

torpid vine
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||I know you can't get Demeter's until post-Epilogue. The others are likely down to RNG not favouring you.||

restive gulch
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yeah, i already did that

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okay, got dinoysus randomly just now hahaha

signal swan
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that's Dionysus alright. Random

primal yacht
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Just heard Orpheus whole song about Zagreus

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It's literally just the Orphic myth of Dionysus zaglol

light thistle
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Love all their jokes surrounding the mythology

left vessel
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favorite jokes are from the narrator guy when youve beat the game already on the various ways zag dies

light thistle
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Seeing a wolf, thinking it a friendly creature and thus

prime mulch
light thistle
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the Prince's life ends again

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WHAT AN IDIOT

brittle topaz
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Once you've given the gods enough necter, you have to complete a hidden quest fir them. Aphrodite requires you to romance some characters, Ares needs you to kill 10,000 enemies, Posiden needs you to catch 50 fish, ect.

atomic forge
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Finally ||Dusa gets her job back!!!!||

prime mulch
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what is the pay even like

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whats the economic status in the underworld

drifting citrus
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seeing the prince

atomic forge
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Safety from the heat of Asphodel should suffice

prime mulch
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its a head

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they float

atomic forge
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whats the economic status in the underworld
@prime mulch Gotta ask Charon, he's the chthonic minister of commerce and transportation.

calm hornet
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how do I get the sundial?

left vessel
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according to wiki u need 44 other upgrades bought from the contrctor

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then u can buy it off of him

prime mulch
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it not like it even functional

calm hornet
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ik I just wanna finish it

left vessel
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it's always stuck at || 7:48|| for some reason lmao

calm hornet
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I bought everything for the room lounge and great hall already

left vessel
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if anyone knows what that means

calm hornet
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still hasnt appeared

prime mulch
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why the spoiler tag lol

left vessel
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nothing just felt like it lol

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maybe some ppl wanna find out for themselves HAHAHAHA

prime mulch
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||find out what?||

left vessel
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the eternal time i guess HHAHAHAHA

calm hornet
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wiki says something about hades musings

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does he randomly just tell you he wants one or something

prime mulch
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ive yet to buy the chair

torpid vine
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Basically, yeah

calm hornet
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also im pretty sure good riddance is bugged cuz it never showed up in the court music

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||eurydice|| said I could have it too

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I've finished the quest for her and ||orpheus||

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still not there

prime mulch
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clearly orpheus hates you

calm shadow
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Is the ||epilogue feast scene|| the last major piece of narrative to achieve right now?

atomic forge
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Yes

calm shadow
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ok thanks

somber hatch
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Does anyone know if the Steam achievement for maxing out keepsakes includes secret normal keepsakes?

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Not sure if I need to max the last one on the list or not

prime mulch
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its normal keepsakes iirc

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so all except companions i guess

somber hatch
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Yeah, I don't mean the companions at the very bottom, just the secret normal keepsakes (there are two of them)

drifting citrus
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they're not really secret

rough forum
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everything but the companions, yep!

drifting citrus
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they're just earned post-credits

somber hatch
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Gotcha, okay, I have 3 keepsakes left and I'm at 100% achievements

iron leaf
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I'm not sure if this has been discussed, but do we know if there are dev plans to fill out the ||keepsake cabinet or add new gods/weapons/prophecies||? I've completed everything and I need to chase more progression :(

Also the remaining ||handful of empty keepsake slots|| really bugs me

normal kiln
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there are currently no such plans, sadly

light thistle
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Devs are 100% committed to one thing right now, taking a break and recharging their batteries. Maybe they'll add stuff later, but they said they'd reassess when they recover and regroup

prime mulch
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legit they should put this thing in faq since theres always that one guy that ask abt it everyday

light thistle
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who can blame them I think it's well deserved

normal kiln
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i can barely keep myself from asking about it every day, and i know the answer lol

light thistle
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I remember when I was that new guy

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who came in and asked

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a week ago

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xd

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still it's a cool place to hang and pick up some tips for the game

normal kiln
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truth

prime mulch
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its always have been, even in EA

faint socket
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@prime mulch it is actually in the faq! Now that Early Access is over, what's next? Once we're sure our v1.0 launch has settled, our small team will be taking a break to recharge, and plan what's next. We'll be excited to say more about what's in store for us just as soon as we're ready.

prime mulch
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huh thats pretty poggers

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i thought its in the announcements

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wait

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ye

faint socket
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yeah, hades faq was updated a bit after launch

lone agate
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question where do i get the last Keepsake?

prime mulch
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idk were not ur dads

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jk jk

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but thats the answer

rocky dirge
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question where do i get the last Keepsake?
@lone agate Post-credits

lone agate
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thanks

abstract cloud
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can someone explain skelly's prizes?

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do i need to use his trinket on a 16 heat run?

atomic forge
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No just beat the required heat level

abstract cloud
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hmm did 16 heat w/o god mode and he just said his normal stuff

grave shale
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Did you run to the covered statue and interact?

unreal dagger
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Yeah he doesnt get paid to unveil it for you

atomic forge
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I want his job

rocky dirge
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You can do it with god mode enabled, I thought?

abstract cloud
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guess i need to look around for a covered statue

hybrid solstice
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It's right by the door, for some reason I didn't notice them for ages either

unreal dagger
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They are on the bottom right, right next to rhe door

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The camera flicks to them when they become available i believe

compact quartz
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I can't seem to unlock sisyphus || I've talked to med to the point where I had the cutscene where she told him she was going easy on him during a run, after that nothing ||

rocky dirge
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If you never interact with the second covered statue after revealing the first, the floating 16 Heat doesnt show up, so he might have missed that

unreal dagger
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Oh

rocky dirge
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I can't seem to unlock sisyphus || I've talked to med to the point where I had the cutscene where she told him she was going easy on him during a run, after that nothing ||
@compact quartz say it with me. ARR, ENN, GEEEEE

unreal dagger
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You need hades, meg, sisyphus and nyx dialogues

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And smack them with some rng

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Play

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The

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Game

compact quartz
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Well, I've done like 8 clears since then and hades nor nyx have had any ! above them

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at all

unreal dagger
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8 clears

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Is sisyphus on the locked heart?

compact quartz
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yes

unreal dagger
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So did you get the hades dialogue about him?

compact quartz
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I think so? been working on this for a few days now, but hades hasn't had any ! in my past few runs

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is it because i'm doing EM4?

unreal dagger
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No

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Are you done with the epilogue?

compact quartz
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no

unreal dagger
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Maybe you need to finish that

light thistle
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Did you talk to Bouldy

unreal dagger
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Maybe theres some queued events

compact quartz
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yeah I talk to bouldy every time I see him

light thistle
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Then you're probably just in bad RNG land

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I mean, if you just think about how many people play this game

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some people are gonna get it first time

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and if you're on the low end of the variance

compact quartz
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Like I said I got the 2nd event that I described above, nothing after that

light thistle
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theoretically it could take longer

rough forum
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you gotta be sure to give bouldy a kiss on the cheek each time you see him

light thistle
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remember that convos basically pick from the entire valid pool each time

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the event dialogues aren't given any special priority

compact quartz
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@light thistle here's the thing, I'm not getting any, either hades or nyx has had the ! in a few runs now.

light thistle
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have they had other unique dialogues though

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ones you've not seen before

compact quartz
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no, they're not talking to me at all

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they don't have the !

rocky dirge
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You can still talk to them, though, right?

light thistle
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wiki: Sisyphus' favor involves lightening his sentence.

This involves speaking to Bouldy, then Sisyphus, Megaera and Hades about lightening Sisyphus's sentence. After doing so, the Knave-King's Sentence can be purchased from the House Contractor (for 4 Diamond). (You also need to visit nyx for 2+ conversations about sisyphus, who will give you the location of the scroll in the archives)

unreal dagger
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Yeah

light thistle
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this is what happened for me

unreal dagger
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For a recycled line

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There is a steam guide for unlocking all the hearts

compact quartz
unreal dagger
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Yeah hes exhausted for now

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But maybe the game wants you to finish something aka the epilogue before hades can resume with lines

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Thatd just my estimated gues

grizzled siren
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||best thing ||ever ||is using the ||hades|| aid while fighting ||hades||. the two just shout at each other "Father!" "S||o||n!"||

light thistle
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omg i need to try

grizzled siren
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it has to be the greater one for Zagreus to shout pretty sure

torpid vine
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There are multiple lines from that, and most are very amusing xDD

still crown
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Hello guys here for a question on character dialogues, not sure if I can have a solid answer. I've had successes with a few of recent runs and they are close to each other(Win>Win>Lose>Win). As the story unfolds, I'm sure each characters have something to say about it. But will there be cases where some dialogues will just be gone forever as I advance the story too quickly by clearing? Sometimes characters don't appear in the house and I missed the chance to talk to them and all. Just wanna make sure I can listen to every nicely acted voice lines y'know. Feel free to @ me if you have the answer, thanks in advance!

torpid vine
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There are some dialogues that are mutually exclusive. Having certain side-quests evolve faster than others will trigger different dialogues. And easy example of this is ||choosing to romance Meg before Than causes Than to have dialogue referring to Meg's relationship with Zagreus, while the reverse is true if you romance Than before Meg.|| So you can't get absolutely everything in one playthrough, but you can get much if not most.

still crown
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That's good to know. Guess I shouldn't worry about it too much... Thanks

serene forge
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The only story progression that matters is catching the game-winning ||surface|| fish 🎣

torpid vine
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||God damn Salmon||

rocky dirge
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You can link images that are hosted on the web, or upload victory screens in the victory boasting channel

west acorn
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So I just|| reunited persephony and hades||, is there more story after this or am I done, at least wtith the main plot

grizzled siren
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there is an epilogue

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the requirements are stated in the fated list

west acorn
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thanks

grizzled siren
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i got my own question now

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if im shooting for a god based hidden aspect, should i just strap that god's keepsake on to ensure they get adding to the pool

kind maple
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||any tips on getting chaos legendary boon?||

grizzled siren
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||take chaos gates and use the mirror to increase legendary||

unreal dagger
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||any tips on getting chaos legendary boon?||
Be lucky

rocky dirge
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Use them rerolls

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And Chaos' keepsake

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(all keepsakes also boost chances of Epic, Duos and Legendaries)

unreal dagger
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Pretty sure egg doesn't affect that

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Since legendary is its own tier

dry venture
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are erebus gates only for higher heat?

unreal dagger
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Yes

dry venture
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10?

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or does it change each run

unreal dagger
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5 i. Tartarus

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10 in asphodel

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15 in elysium

dry venture
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ahhh

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thx

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are they generally good?

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are they a priority in runs

unreal dagger
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If you need the reward

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Yes

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They usually have better stuff, but it comes at a price

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If you take dmg you get nothing

glacial kiln
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wait to|| get the other hidden aspects do i have to buy guan yu or just reveal it? I currently have it revealed but do I need to buy it to have the option to start unlocking other hidden aspects?||

sullen remnant
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Is it theoretically possible to beat a run without boons and if yes, does Hades have to say anthing special?

unreal dagger
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Yes to the first question, a lot of people have done it

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Idk about the 2nd

rough prism
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just got the true ending :d

unreal dagger
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Nice

toxic pulsar
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how much nectar/ ambrosia to forge a bond with an olympic god?

slow shoal
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I think 6/7?

left vessel
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Iirc 6 nectar and 1 ambrosia

slow shoal
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Most of them only have one ambrosia

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Hermes has two ambrosia slots for whatever reason

toxic pulsar
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he needs the extra ambrosia to keep ur secret safe 😉

grizzled siren
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i noticed that im allowed to change the throne int he house of hades

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i wanna see how Hades reacts to his throne being changed from underneath him

left vessel
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disappointed father noises

fading smelt
#

Finally got the epilogue after 75 hours of gameplay. What a wonderful game

grizzled siren
#

now you must seduce everyone

unreal dagger
#

That sounds like the game is over

fading smelt
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i'm already 2/3rds the way there 😉

unreal dagger
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Of romancing?

grizzled siren
#

hmmm.

fading smelt
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yep, romanced dusa and than so far

grizzled siren
#

is it just me or is Hestia hardly better then just normal shooting

normal kiln
#

have you upgraded it much?

grizzled siren
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level 2

fading smelt
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it rewards manual reloading which you should be doing anyway

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basically a straight upgrade, though eris is probably better

normal kiln
#

it’s defiantly way better, but it wants to be level 5 to work well imo

grizzled siren
#

i mean like how are you suppose to use it

unreal dagger
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Is amazing tho

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You shoot and reload

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Thats how

grizzled siren
#

would it not be better to just reload after every shot

normal kiln
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reload constantly, basically

unreal dagger
#

Yes

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Thats how

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Shoot once and reload

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You can 4 shot skelly at lvl 5

grizzled siren
#

that sounds mean

unreal dagger
#

Dont worry, he enjoys it

#

"Just give it to me boyo"

normal kiln
#

you wanna go either aphro or arty on attack ofc

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and the rest is just getting used to it, something i honestly still haven’t completely done

unreal dagger
#

Ew art

normal kiln
#

it’s quite a different playstyle

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arty is great on hestia lol

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big crit go boom

unreal dagger
#

But

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Big crit

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Is rng

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Just go aphro, big crit every shot

grizzled siren
#

it feels llike zagreus just picked up a pump shotgun

normal kiln
#

not with hunter’s mark it isn’t

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i mean, idk hestia meta so i’m not really sure which is better; you could be right

unreal dagger
#

Hunters mark relies on you critting with an area full of people

normal kiln
#

both are certainly solid

unreal dagger
#

And is still rng

normal kiln
#

but it’s like arthur for me; i take that weapon to do crazy single hit numbers, and arty has the biggest numbers

unreal dagger
#

I think art is just too bad in general, why pick something that has a chance of doing more damage, instead of picking something with more dmg straight up

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Only thing I like about art are epic pressure points and support fire

normal kiln
#

with her T2 boons she outdamages aphro

prime mulch
#

bcoz u can use art with a chaos boon and get crits which is better than just a normal boon

unreal dagger
#

Is still rng , Nd you rely on getting t2 boons

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Dunno. Thats juts me

normal kiln
#

you rely on getting good boons in every run lol

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ah

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just remembered you run AP2

unreal dagger
#

But aphro is guaranteed dmg

normal kiln
#

now i understand

unreal dagger
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Nah I'm tlakign in general

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Not really ap talk here

prime mulch
normal kiln
#

in general, they’re both solid

unreal dagger
#

True

vestal quail
#

Because with the ammount of hits you do, the critical chance comes up a whole lot, and the payoff is very worthwhile. It's not guarateed because if crits could be guaranteed they'd outdamage literally everything else

#

imagine 100% crit hestia

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A dream

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But too ambitious

normal kiln
#

it’s possible, but only with hunter’s mark

vestal quail
#

Even then it relies on other things such as havingn a second enemy and such

normal kiln
#

yeah it’s not perfect

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you aren’t gonna crit every time but you can crit a lot

vestal quail
#

basically easy crits are an immediate ticket to bustedland so that's why they can't be guaranteed but let me say I WILL NEVER STOP GOING FOR IT

#

I am a gambler

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Except I cannot lose here because it's either damage or BIG damage

unreal dagger
#

Hunters mark doesn't go up to 100%

normal kiln
#

same also a gambler lol

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crit chance is additive; you can get to 100% with other stuff

#

it’s stupid easy on nemesis

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on hestia it’s probably impractical (if not impossible) without deadly reversal or something

halcyon terrace
#

Arty is good for muti-hits like Demeter special and Chiron, otherwise it's normally just the safe pick if you don't know what to get

normal kiln
#

yeah it’s super reliable on chiron, so it’s like best of both world’s there

grizzled siren
#

after killing a foe your attack does more damage. hmm..my bolt action rail gun has gotten more powerful

vestal quail
#

The rail gun was really proud of that shot and is now pumped up for more, checks out to me dusa

halcyon terrace
#

Man I wanna run Hestia more but with my playstyle I just get bodied until I'm down all DDs by Asphodel

vestal quail
#

you a rushdown boi?

halcyon terrace
#

Yeah, Eris is more constant damage so I have a better time with it even without Zeus attack

grizzled siren
#

oh man

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Hestia shot + Ares empowered shot + crit = 780 damage

halcyon terrace
#

I actually really like Arthur though, really good if you get Greatest Reflex + Swift Strike

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Hestia builds seem really potent, I'll probably just work my way up with heat trying sniper builds

grizzled siren
#

alright so

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should i turn my bolt action rail gun into a shotgun?

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or keep my weird sniper playthrough

unreal dagger
#

No

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It doesnt work

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With the shot

#

Youre talking about hestia right?

grizzled siren
#

yeah

halcyon terrace
#

Eris is better with shotgun since you get constant damage anyway

prime mulch
#

i liked the shotgun with eris somehow

unreal dagger
#

Spread fire with hestia is a waste

normal kiln
#

it literally does nothing lol

unreal dagger
#

Yep

#

Zero interaction

#

With the shot

#

You dont want to keep shooting with hestia anyway

#

You want to shoot and reload

rain echo
#

Finally got to the epilogue

#

Was very sweet

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Would have liked to seen more in full swing

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But was still nice what we got

vestal quail
#

Yeah the epilogue is very very nice. Woulda been ice to see everyone together but oh well

crystal ore
#

ello those any one know the end game the family portrait where can i find it a HD version thats gonna be my new wallpaper, thanks.(@me)

hazy onyx
#

Yo uuuuuuuuuh
How do I get orpheus to sing ||lament of orpheus|| I've already done his entire quest line and bought the sheet music for it
But its only instrumental and doesn't include his vocals, any help?

left vessel
#

all of the music on the stand is instrumental

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if u want him to sing w vocals, it's just rng when spawning in the house lmao

serene briar
#

Question about improving relationships with the gods || All of the gods are ranked up as far as they will go, with many blocked behind a locked heart. Am I missing specific triggers or do I just have to keep playing to unlock their stories? ||

left vessel
#

gods have specific favors u need to complete to unlock those last hearts

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for example poseidon's is catch like 25(?) fish

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and aphro's is get a relationship

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check the wiki for like a full list of each god's favors 🙂

serene briar
#

Awesome thanks 🙂

formal wave
#

YO I just got zags mom to come back home and a free hades fight, what happens next?

left vessel
#

congrats on finishing main story!!! next is working ur way towards epilogue

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dont wanna spoil much but ya there's still some story left

vital helm
#

@crystal ore You can find the portrait ||inside Hades' room if you beat credits|| lmao dm me if you want me to screenshot it for you

ello those any one know the end game the family portrait where can i find it a HD version thats gonna be my new wallpaper, thanks.(@me)

rose mango
#

Arthur is a ton of fun.
Also I just smooched ||Thanatos||. This game is just amazing, and the story has been so much fun to go through.

crystal ore
#

@left vessel Really theres theress more! awesome i wish there was a dlc.--------

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@vital helm Realy there no a official one .Mmm ok sure

iron owl
#

||What's that hidden aspect quote that goes "I see you through the eyes of the blood phoenix"? I forgot the actual quote Zagreus says||

dry venture
#

still no guan yu....

#

just pain

dry venture
#

now 21 wins in

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archilles still doesnt want to give me the spear

potent meteor
#

guan is so annoying as someone who likes tank builds.

torpid vine
#

I should take that to the surface. I haven't tried it yet.

wicked crescent
#

guan yu is so good but I'm such a klutz

#

I keep losing my DD's to that damage

quartz snow
#

||do you need to have the weapon you're trying to unlock the secret aspect of equipped for the Npc to tell you the awakening phrase?||

torpid vine
#

Nope

quartz snow
#

Thanks

fast idol
#

you do have to trigger the phrase being potentially said by encountering the NPC with said weapon first though

marble frost
#

there's also a pinned message on how to

nova gyro
#

lol i just got the ||epilogue|| like two runs ago and i didnt do zeus' nectar/bond stuff yet, so right now i gifted him nectar and he says something like ||and while we're yet to even meet in person, i already feel as though the two of us are close!"|| despite already ||having met||

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now i took his boon and he said ||hope we'll meet again someday|| lmao

dry venture
#

im just mad unlucky or have 10000 qued dialoge or smth with archilles

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unlocked all requirements loooong time ago

lone mica
#

my issue I think is that I'm currently going through the ||part where you reunite him with patroclus|| so he hasn't mentioned anything about the ||spear||

winged python
#

im just mad unlucky or have 10000 qued dialoge or smth with archilles
@dry venture I had the same issue, I wasn’t able to reunite them until run 90ish lol

wicked crescent
#

What I did for queued dialogue is just constantly die with the ||+100% damage pact||

reef lotus
atomic forge
#

It is up to date indeed

reef lotus
#

||So all I need is the fate list, gotten to Hades, spend 5 blood around (or is this have a total of +1 level x5), and then get the wake phrase from Achilles?||

dry venture
#

we are just mad unlucky

#

i feel your pain

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maybe i have to invest 5 blood into every weapon? (non zag)

#

also does unlocking aspect count as blood invested?

reef lotus
#

||Invest Titan Blood into 5 separate non-Zagreus aspects||
Yeah, good question.

dry venture
#

hmmm

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so if i invest into 10 non zag aspects but only 4 , does that count?

#

or 0 then

#

or does a single one have to be 5

reef lotus
#

I do wish it were more clear, but I think it's have a total of +5 levels across non-zag aspects.

#

Maybe I just gotta suicide run more 😐

dry venture
#

does suicide have any disadvantages to stats?

reef lotus
#

Nope

dry venture
#

like is there a winrate stat or smth?

#

i just know win streak

reef lotus
#

||You can see attempted runs later in the game so it pollutes those stats||

dry venture
#

oh i know that

#

right

#

hmmm

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pain

#

😔

reef lotus
#

I did a number of suicide runs

#

Maybe I needa do more

dry venture
#

do you know if unlocking aspect counts towards blood invested?

reef lotus
#

I do not

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But, fwiw, I've leveled over 5 times and unlocked over 5 aspects without getting the spear

dry venture
#

yea i just realized there are 6 weapons so i definitely did it too

#

only gun i probably dont have 5 inveted into non zag

#

so RIP

reef lotus
#

It's 5 total, seperate.

#

Maybe 5 lvl 2's?

dry venture
#

the wiki

reef lotus
#

Well then, bad rng it is.

dry venture
#

same here

reef lotus
reef lotus
#

@dry venture like 10 suicide runs later and I finally got it thank god
but I don't have the titans blood needed kekw

dry venture
#

@dry venture like 10 suicide runs later and I finally got it thank god
but I don't have the titans blood needed :kekw:
@reef lotus damn congrats

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im gonna continue on my journey

#

😔

#

to find my guan yu

#

im not gonna suicide since i need blood anyways

reef lotus
#

gluck!

obsidian spear
#

does giving nectar to Bouldy amount to anything?

wicked crescent
#

What, you can't just give nectar to a friend for the sake of it?

#

Shameful

inland umbra
#

you can give bouldy nectar?

wicked crescent
#

Yeah, I think you have to level up your relationship with sisyphus and he'll talk about bouldy and you can gift stuff to him

inland umbra
#

I haven't gotten past his locked heart yet

wicked crescent
#

You don't have to get past his locked heart

#

I think you can gift stuff to bouldy as long as you have the option of talking him

#

You just have to get the dialogue

inland umbra
#

I'll definitely have to check that on my next run

reef lotus
#

Bouldy has unique, per-run boons. It's the only mid-run boost you can get with nectar.

inland umbra
#

oh neat

dry venture
#

so i need to give nectar to skully, meg and dusa right? for companions

#

who else?

gloomy frigate
#

than and achilles

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oh and sisyphus

dry venture
#

who is sisyphus again?

gloomy frigate
#

bouldy dude in tartarus

torpid vine
#

Achilles's companion is actually ||from him and Pat~||. And Sisyphus is the chill guy who hangs out with Bouldy in Tartarus. ||Who needs to apologise to Than and possibly quite a few others!||

dry venture
#

ah okay

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thx

proper nacelle
#

So a couple of times I noticed that after getting back to the House of Hades, if you leave the room without talking to everyone, sometimes available conversations change (e.g. Nyx is hanging out with ||Persephone|| when you first arrive, but is on her own after you enter your without talking to them).
Will I get another shot at hearing those convos, or did I "miss" them?

grizzled siren
#

it'lll eventually come back

livid rampart
#

so im currently going for ||The Queens Plan|| and what do i all need to open the locked heart of the different gods like do i just keep talking to them while they are on max hearts or does something else need to happen?

lunar kiln
#

you need to unlock the hearts of a certain amount of olympians

#

in order to forge bonds with them

livid rampart
#

so just fill the hearts till locked heart and then keep talking to them till it unlocks the bonding heart

lunar kiln
#

well you'll have to give them ambrosia after unlocking their hearts

livid rampart
#

yeah i got the unlock with athena but shortly after i got her keepsake to 3* so i was kinda thinking i need to get the keepsakes on rank 3 aswell

lunar kiln
#

nah you dont need that

#

unless you want to forge a bond with hermes

#

you'll need to have his keepsake at max rank to do that

livid rampart
#

i think i need hermes for ||The Queens Plan|| cause he is one of the gods

lunar kiln
#

you need to forge a bond with at least ||6|| gods

livid rampart
#

ohh ok so i need technically ||5|| more since i got athena

lunar kiln
#

yeah

livid rampart
#

ok ty

grizzled siren
#

wait hold up

#

you don't need the weapon equipped to get the hidden aspect???

lunar kiln
#

no but in some cases you'll need to have talked to the character who gives you the hidden aspect you want with the right weapon beforehand

toxic pulsar
#

you need to forge a bond with at least ||6|| gods
@lunar kiln its only 5

lunar kiln
#

oh did it change?

toxic pulsar
#

thats what it says on the prophecy list for me

grizzled siren
#

im actually just about to forge a bond with everyone in the house before i do so with a single god

#

I'm waiting for the heart unlock with Orpheus and Meg, and I'm not too far off with Achilles and Nyx.

Dusa Cerberus and Hades aren't too far off from a bond forging.

while Dusa, Cereberus, and Skelly are already taken care off

winged python
#

I still have Hypnos locked, he last reported to hades abt his organizing his own tasks and I think maybe had another talk with Than. What’s next in his quest line to unlock his heart? I keep coming back to the house and he always greets me with nothing new to say

slow shoal
#

Just keep talking to him, he has a few scenes with Than (which is why it takes so long to unlock the heart, since Than will sometimes just rather talk to you alone)

winged python
#

Sweet, that makes a lot of sense, he keeps chatting with me abt dying

toxic pulsar
#

just met the ||king vermin||

#

horrifying experience

winged python
#

I stan || king vermin. Very cute, very tiny||

toxic pulsar
#

very mf scary and beefy

winged python
#

Do than and meg have any other relationship dialogue with zag after you get their final heart events?

toxic pulsar
#

whats the last category in the codex for?

slow shoal
#

The ||unlockable companions|| you can get from some characters.

toxic pulsar
#

ahhh i was wondering

torpid vine
#

Do than and meg have any other relationship dialogue with zag after you get their final heart events?
@winged python Yeah. You can even get a ||duo bedroom scene.||

toxic pulsar
#

POG?

winged python
#

@winged python Yeah. You can even get a ||duo bedroom scene.||
@torpid vine ty stranger 👀

marble frost
#

but... how ? (asking for a friend) dusa

torpid vine
#

||I'm working towards it myself, but you seem to need at least one post-full relationship bedroom scene with each of them (triggered by a speech bubble with a heart in, not an exclamation point).||

marble frost
#

don't remember those speech bubbles, althought I've already had ||each of them directly in my room when I entered it||

torpid vine
#

||Yeah, you get the heart bubbles after you get the first bedroom scenes.||

ashen latch
#

Man, I can't believe Zagreus joins the NBA, retires after 15 seasons in the league and starts a modelling agency

#

this game really has so many twists

torpid vine
#

He's got a very distinctive look, but he's pretty short for the catwalk xDD

hot mirage
#

I finally made it to the Temple of Styx today! Got as far as 55 chambers before I got put down

unreal dagger
#

Now do it again

torpid vine
#

You can beat it!

west acorn
#

How do I unlock my last two hidden aspects (shield and gun)? I got fists, sword, and bow really fast but since then I have done a tone of runs without getting the prompt for either gun or shield, including a bunch of runs (and wins) with the rail. Is it random, or is there a specific trigger I need to try to hit?

left vessel
#

as long as u have five blood invested in each shield/gun aspects u should be getting the unlock phrases - shield from chaos and gun from zeus

#

it's also possible that they need to see u wielding the weapon first

#

also u might have some other dialogue queued so it couldve been pushed back

west acorn
#

Yeah I didn't have the 5 blood for shield and I almost never saw Zeus, I'll see if I can get it now

#

Thanks

unreal dagger
#

I really love how hades went from this big bad douche, to a wholesome single father who was just struggling, to get the best for everyone

#

I feel bad

torpid vine
#

Well, he's not totally wholesome. He knows he made some really bad calls.

unreal dagger
#

They were bad on the long run, and from others point of view

#

But at the moment it seemed like the best choice

#

Hes the god of the dead after all

#

Is one of those scenarios where "you die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"

#

Oof

#

No swearing in the house of hades

torpid vine
#

xDD

unreal dagger
#

"Dont even think about it boy,.... uhm Zagreus"

torpid vine
#

Hades ||knows he made some really bad calls as it pertains to raising Zagreus. He was a bad father, who yelled at his son for so much as smiling. The game doesn't excuse that though.||

#

He knows he's got a way to go with that particular relationship.

unreal dagger
#

Hes the god of the dead, not the god of smiles

torpid vine
#

||Still a pretty terrible father, and not the greatest husband. He was doing what he thought was best, but he didn't listen to those around him and eventually the lies caught up.||

unreal dagger
#

He lives in a house full of shades that dont stop complaining

torpid vine
#

He does have a pretty stressful job, but he also has a lot of support. Most of the gods have pretty stressful jobs. xDD

unreal dagger
#

Id say aphros is really chill

quiet barn
#

Wonder if we’ll see other gods in the future such as Hera and Hestia, the nods are nice but would really love to see how they could bring them to life.

unreal dagger
#

Doubt it

#

But itd be nice

torpid vine
#

I'd love for Apollo to show. I know I'm not alone in that. But I'm not expecting anything, and the game feels complete.

unreal dagger
#

Correct anything else is welcome. But it is pretty complete

drifting citrus
#

sharpshooter cowgirl fire grandma

balmy verge
#

Soo for dusa's storyline to finish to unlock aphrodite's heart I need a cutscene that only triggers when than and nyx are present
But than refuses to show up since 15 deaths (yeah I let myself get killed purposely lol)
Is it just the damn rng messing around again?

grizzled siren
#

Than is a mysterious soul

#

He only shows up if you don't wnat him there, so just dont want him there and bam. he there

balmy verge
#

Nice one
Tie most quest/story dialogue to characters that are barely there for some reason

unreal dagger
#

He only shows up when he's horny bouldy

balmy verge
#

Hades true rng is in its dialogue

#

Gameplay is rng free

cobalt summit
#

This is my first time asking a question on here, how do i get the steam achievement for unlocking all weapon aspects? I have every aspect unlocked and a point of blood in the 4th aspects

#

but I still havent gotten an achievement for it, I even completed a run and came back and still no achievement

#

any help would be appreciated, I need this one for my last achievement

left vessel
#

it should be completed as long youve invested at least one blood in all of them

cobalt summit
#

ok maybe I missed one I'll check again, thank you

#

I'm so dumb I was missing aspect of talos, thank you for your help lol

tired timber
#

Do you get to interact with the garden near your room, after it unlocks in the end game?

drifting citrus
#

kinda? it just becomes a place where npcs can hang out and talk

left vessel
#

a bit(?)

#

also a statue goes there

drifting citrus
#

any more than you can "interact" with the west wing where achilles is

tired timber
#

Okay cool, @left vessel you mentioned a new trader to unlock - is there something that happens first to unlock them?

untold dew
#

anyone else feel bad every time you beat Hades? lol

left vessel
#

since this is the spoiler channel ill just spit it out

#

once u get mom to come back

#

so thats like after ur first 10 clears

#

dad should tell u that the resources director is available in his room

#

(which tbf is such a weird place to put him)

tired timber
#

Ah! Okay, I must not have that dialogue just yet.. thanks again

somber lake
#

(which tbf is such a weird place to put him)
@left vessel why have i not thought about this LOL

fast idol
#

love it when you fight Hades after you got the credits and it's just banter between father and son

#

"SO HOW WAS YOUR JOURNEY THROUGH THE UNDERWORLD"
"PLEASANT, THANKS FOR ASKING"

left vessel
#

"this guy tried to stop me at the end but i killed him, gods he was annoying"

fast idol
#

Hades: :)....>:(

final crypt
#

I honestly like the fact that he outright says he doesn't know if he even CAN forgive ||Hades for all he's done||, showing its not really just something so easily repaired

fast idol
#

oh yeah that's some really good writing

#

it's not just done and gone, it's a long process of healing

final crypt
#

Very much like ya know. Actual abusers and how it happens. Even if they really do mean well, it doesn't just fix everything

#

...though ||Hades|| sure could try a little more IMO :p

fast idol
#

have you done all the Nectars with him?

#

he does say
||that he will try to get closer, but in his own, very subtle ways, simply because he has grown very bitter over time||

left vessel
#

i mean he compliments u once u reach the epilogue and even agrees putting u on the employee of the century thing (albeit w some prodding)

#

so hes at least trying

#

in his own bitter, god of dead way i guess

final crypt
#

Yeah I got maxed bond and everything, he still is a huge grump about it though lol

#

You'd think he would learn at this point considering

#

I guess that's also realistic, though

left vessel
#

i do like that one convo where we catches himself mid sentence from calling you "boy" and actively tries to call u zagreus

#

small thing but ya as u said realistic in a sense

final crypt
#

I did notice that, there's a couple where he does it

#

Even in the boss fights sometimes

left vessel
#

he wont change overnight but i love the effort

#

overall SSG rlly did well writing this

final crypt
#

BTW there's no option to skip the Narrator's "end of story death" thing right?

#

Oh no, its excellent writing

#

I normally wouldn't skip em but apparently they're just looping again now

left vessel
#

ya u always have to listen to ur dumbs way to die

final crypt
#

A shame, some are pretty long, so if they're not gonna be new ones...

dusk meadow
#

i think ive beat the game 100%

prime mulch
#

the idea is the narrator is got no more ideas, indicated by some of the entries

atomic forge
#

"'He cannot kill me like this every time,' thinks the Underworld Prince. 'Eventually he shall have no more ideas.' The prince, as often is the case, is wrong."

obsidian spear
#

What's the percent chance that the event to fight ||charon from borrowing the money||happens?

rocky dirge
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22%

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Only in mid-biome shops

fallow iron
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what do u mean hades has 2 phases

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how do i even beat him

thorn bough
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Good consistent gameplay

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Hades isn't nearly as difficult to read considering the background and his shilouette

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The real trip ups come from the adds he spawns

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Otherwise it's a trivial thing to spank and scoot

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What are you having trouble with @fallow iron

fallow iron
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maybe im the problem

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just spamming attack and dash

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i should evade when necessary

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not just for doing a quickie

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but the thing is i didnt expect the second phase

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i barely beated him

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and then boom whole hp again

tribal marsh
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It's just practice

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I rarely loose a death defy on both phases these days

feral compass
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Eventually you’ll pick up on his attack patterns

tribal marsh
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THough I just tried Hades EX, that through me for sure 😄

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I was wondering if there is a "true" ending in the game? Like something past the credit roll that is hinted at in various texts chats and such.

rocky dirge
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There is an epilogue

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Just keep giving everyone nectar and talking to them, gods especiallly

tribal marsh
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Alright cool, that's what I figured. Will do

uneven ferry
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its kind of dumb that hades is a literal god and he cant even leave the underworld

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can the olympian gods also not leave olympus? that's not the impression i get

quiet hollow
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dead people are meant to stay dead, living people are meant to die... eventually.

thorn bough
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"god" doesn't mean much when they're super killable

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They have some limited authority over aspects of reality, but aren't full blown omnipotent beings

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Otherwise there wouldn't be so many of them

inland umbra
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you know theseus really grew on me

grizzled siren
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Theseus grew on me

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like a tumor

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#freeAsterius

inland umbra
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the more he sounds like he's about cry when he says his dialogue the more I love him

left vessel
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Best part is the arc where he gets into a fight with asterius

inland umbra
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I think I'm getting to that part

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zag just offered asterius to be his friend and theseus was not having it

left vessel
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I would have loved it if they randomly put it an T&S fight where they turned on each other

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Like even just once for giggles

inland umbra
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theseus is his own soap opera and I just want to see the fallout

static panther
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I'm confused i have the duo boon exclusive access and the boons offered from Charon are all common. does exclusive access only affect the rarity of boons from room rewords?

inland umbra
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I don't think I've had that boon yet

static panther
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i just relized i was looking a poms not boonszaglol

grizzled siren
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"Look at these terrible boons. they are all common and I already have them all" -Gedaning probably

quiet hollow
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At first I thought Theseus was being for real and he got on my nerves. Then I realised he was it as a bit, to psyche up the crowd, and I enjoyed him. Then he almost cried and I realised he was definitely being for real and now I love him.

inland umbra
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he was so smug when he got his armor

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and it;s so ugly

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I apologized to asterius

quiet hollow
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He's just so pumped to be alive

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well not alive but the gist is there

inland umbra
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I really love him so much he has such strong himbo vibes

quiet hollow
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A little rude to be a himbo

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a real himbo wouldn't be calling me a blackguard 😂

inland umbra
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he is a himbo to asterius

quiet hollow
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damn, now that's true

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oh to be a 3 meter tall bull man with your himbo boyfriend

grizzled siren
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im surprised there is more to theseus tbh

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im at the part where he just gives me a generic one line thing but i havnt seen the dude cry or fight with asterius yet

inland umbra
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you have to fight asterius more to deepen your friendship

grizzled siren
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im planning to go beat him up with the special gloves soon as i get the blood for it

timid fiber
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yah i've finally started to get a groove down for their fight

inland umbra
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in the miniboss rooms

quiet hollow
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Kinda messed up that Zag is too smart to be a himbo

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You think he is but damn is he good at lying through his teeth

inland umbra
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what I love most about the macedonian tau-lambda is that it shoots confetti from the cannons

timid fiber
inland umbra
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zag is a good person

uneven ferry
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i was hoping T&A would come to the house after i beat them

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like, hydra is a hydra so of course they dont come by but

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why not them

inland umbra
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would love to see the hydra heads like sulking into the lounge

uneven ferry
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would actually be hilarious if hydra came to the house but not T&A

inland umbra
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hades wouldn't be able to stand having theseus in the house

grizzled siren
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I just wish the greatest boss ever came to the house

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tiny vermin

uneven ferry
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i mean

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hes there

inland umbra
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never

quiet hollow
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tiny vermin cerberus death match

uneven ferry
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bold of you to assume he's not in a crack in the wall

inland umbra
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cerberus doesn't deserve that kind of roughing up

quiet hollow
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I bet Spot could take him

inland umbra
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he's the greatest boy but I don't want him to get hurt

quiet hollow
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true, true

bold tendon
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Anyone has a rip of ||Persephone's second sprite when she becomes the Queen?||

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The wiki doesn't have it

regal garnet
noble cliff
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Kinda messed up that Zag is too smart to be a himbo
I still consider zag to be a himbo ngl

quiet hollow
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He's close but no kronk

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Also I realised something about the brothers

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Hades = Stupid but Serious

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Poseidon = Stupid and Impulsive

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Zeus = Smart but Impulsive

normal kiln
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are you sure Zeus is smart tho lol

quiet hollow
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On a handful of occasions I think it's clear he knows what's up, but doesn't say anything because he also knows that it might jeapardise his position.

pastel ridge
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Well Zeus is a bit of a schemer, so there has to be some brain in that noggin of his

prime mulch
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with that logic hades is smart too

quiet hollow
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Nah Hades is just

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If you somehow got Hades to promise to whack himself in the nards every morning

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For the next 4000 years every day he'd get up, have a nice stretch

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Maybe get some water

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And then double handed slam himself and cry a lil

prime mulch
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you are talking nonsense

quiet hollow
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well, yes and

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Hades doesn't make plans, he makes promises

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Completely unable to process his own emotions, and when he is, doesn't know what to do with them

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it's why the House of Hades is barely holding itself together at the beginning

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for a smart guy, hades is really dim

prime mulch
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being serious on the job requires him to keep up his reputation as the ruthless ruler of the underworld, and he laid plans to deceive the whole olympus in the epilogue, and the house is not barely holding itself together, its just existing status quo, woking as intended. The only that not working properly is zag, which is unfit for administrative positions per se. Hades himself is a very competent ruler or not there should be a hell lot of escapees from the underworld.

quiet hollow
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Persephone lays plans to deceive all of Olympus. Hades does the organising. Which he's great at! When I said the House of Hades I meant like, his staff, who are all miserable. The Underworld itself is doing just fine under his command, yeah.

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He's like, the way Majima was characterised in OG 1,2,3

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Like, somehow a very competent organiser for how dumb he is lol

pale zenith
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So I just experienced a bit between Zeus and Artemis... that confirms she's ace!? I couldn't be happier if that's the case.

prime mulch
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wdym

normal kiln
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yeah i was pretty psyched to see that ngl

pale zenith
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There was an entire spheal from Zeus saying "I'd hook you up with someone up here on Olympus, and almost anyone is open, except Artemis who has made it amply clear she's not interested in people like that" and she comes in and replies "Yes, Zagreus, in spite of all of these perfect, chiseled prospects everywhere about, yearning to marry or embarrass me, for some reason, I prefer to spend my time mostly alone or with my nymph friends in the woods!"

That's a huge ace moment if you ask me ace_flag

normal kiln
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agreed

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artemis is a great character

pale zenith
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Great boons, too, can't live without 'em

normal kiln
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i can’t live without em, my enemies can’t live with em

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win win

thorn marsh
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does anyone know how to unlock "good riddance" from the contractor?

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ah nvm i just saw it's a known glitch on the switch

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well dam

pale zenith
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Hearing Good Riddance from Zagreus' room hits different

burnt sentinel
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does anybody know the prerequisites for the one for the ages achievement?

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ive done 60 clears so far and i still dont have it

quiet hollow
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give more nectar to the gods

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I think you need to be on max hearts with... 5 of them?

burnt sentinel
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theyre all max nectar

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some have ambrosia already

quiet hollow
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You need to get to Bond Forged with 6 of them

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so pass out some more ambrosia 🙂

burnt sentinel
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ah that might be it, ty

quiet hollow
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all the gods have different requirements to unlock their last heart

cunning anchor
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Hades = Stupid but Serious
@quiet hollow hades only smart one

torpid vine
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All of them are smart in their own ways, but all of them are stupid in their own ways too.

cunning anchor
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i mean....

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mythology-wise

wicked crescent
torpid vine
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Mythology wise is the same, Might. Sometimes they're smart, sometimes they're stupid. They're almost always very selfish.

devout token
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reminds me of a take somebody had regarding Greek myth as a whole

cunning anchor
wicked crescent
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I have no clue

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I believe it would be more well known if the video had footage of a man's last seconds

cunning anchor
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did he get struck by lightning?

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if so, what a dumb way to go out

wicked crescent
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I think it's just the angle of the camera

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Or some video editing magic

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I highly doubt that anyone was harmed

devout token
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`..there's a lot of ways a person can approach Greek mythology, from the elevated intellectual approach of a classics major, to the 'Release the Kraken' nonsense of pop culture reimagining, like Clash of the Titans. Greek mythology serves its purpose for both, is the thing. Even in ancient Greece, it had the same dichotomy: the Pantheon was at the heart of religious, philosophical discourse, but it was also at the heart of many a drunken conversations between regular folks; where the salaciousness, pettiness and folly of both men and gods were more the pressing concern.

Compared to the infallible God of modern monotheism, the Greek gods were all tremendous ****shows, and it's that characterisation of them as being more powerful than humans but by no means better than humans that's carried them along so many twists and turns of history. .`

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from the video for those not interested in watching

wicked crescent
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I like to think of mythological characters as comic book characters

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They can be in hundreds of different stories with hundreds of conflicting characterisations and still be recognisable as those characters

devout token
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Surely they are more fun to write and enjoy than Mary Sues/Gary Stus but also has godlike powers

wicked crescent
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Bunch of over dramatic weirdoes with literally god superpowers always makes for a fun story

devout token
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How else would have the memes of Zeus seducing every woman of Greece while not even disguising himself as a human been so everlasting

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it's been what 2, 3 millenia

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I'm sure it's more than a little stale for most of us but that speaks for the power and draw of Greek myth

cunning anchor
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and lots of dudes too

torpid vine
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Yep.

devout token
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Zeus seducing every being in Greece while never being human in form*

cunning anchor
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some animals too

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poseidan does it with a human girl while they are both sheep, which, why even a human girl at that point

frozen jolt
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please keep it clean!

cunning anchor
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is that not clean?

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honest question

frozen jolt
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i deleted a message

devout token
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What's the req for Cerberus' final heart(s)

unreal dagger
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You pet the dog

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YOU

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PET

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THE

devout token
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bruh

unreal dagger
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DOG

devout token
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bruh

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okay thanks Dio

unreal dagger
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Go

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And do it

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Now

tepid tiger
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hmmmmmmmm ok so like. if i romance multiple characters. do i only get Fun Romance Dialogue/Scenes for the most recent character i romanced, or do i get it for all of them?

normal kiln
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You can romance all of them simultaneously

devout token
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In fact I romanced both Than and Meg and they have lines acknowledging that fact

tepid tiger
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oh SICK

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ok hella............ time to live my best life

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thank you!!

devout token
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Game probably has dialogue/events if you romance only one or the other but idk about that

unreal dagger
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Dont think so

tepid tiger
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i think you prob just like. only get the solo romance stuff if you only romance one

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just wanted to make sure i wasnt gonna get like Only Meg Dialogue if i romance than and then meg u feel

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bc. points @ than. sir i am lov you so much,

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also gonna "romance" dusa lol

ember shoal
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question before I drive myself crazy trying to figure it out

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does the game ever reveal the identity of the Narrator?

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If so, I don't want to know who it is, just that there is actually an answer

copper saffron
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I don't think so

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Zagreus refers to him as "old man"

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and that's it

drifting citrus
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it's hinted at, but only in a very obscure location

unreal dagger
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Yeahz they don't exactly say who it is, but you can make a close assumption

sly tulip
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... How do I unlock the locked heart with the Olympians?

fast idol
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everyone has their own little thing you need to do first

sly tulip
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Such as?

unreal dagger
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Theres a guide for that

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Everyone has their own favor

sly tulip
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... I think I should've unlocked Dio's 🤔

unreal dagger
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Rng still a factor

marble frost
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this confirms poseidon's a sore thumb. Open up your heart, uncle !

slow shoal
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Finally got some progress on the Hypnos storyline for the first time in ages shadesmile

torpid vine
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Poseidon won't even open his heart to his own son, so gl with that xD

unreal dagger
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🥲

marble frost
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which one are you talking about ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poseidon#Consorts_and_children says he's got a few to choose from shadesmile

Poseidon (; Greek: Ποσειδῶν, pronounced [poseːdɔ́ːn]) was one of the Twelve Olympians in ancient Greek religion and myth, god of the sea, storms, earthquakes and horses. In pre-Olympian Bronze Age Greece, he was venerated as a chief deity at Pylos and Thebes.. He had also the ...

unreal dagger
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Hes hot

atomic forge
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hey, they stole his trident