h1-story-discussion

[supple dagger]

EM4 is kinda the only time I actually lose DDs unintentionally between runs now... (well, it's not like I'm doing the ascending Heats anymore. Always keep it no lower than 15 but no higher than... maybe 16 to 20)

[karmic bolt]

I might try 20 heat, zeus + a rapid attack of any kind seems op as heck

[upbeat willow]

@bold tendon please don't evade the swear filter, also spoiler tags for 1.0 content thankyou

[bold tendon]

ok

[karmic bolt]

what does boiling blood even do?

[supple dagger]

I made a guess that it probs does initial trap damage upon impact and then damage received is increased until it dislodges.

[fossil sentinel]

Gives 50% more damage to enemies with a bloodstone lodged in them

[karmic bolt]

I mean for the boss

like does it work the same way ours does?

[drifting citrus]

yep, but more

[supple dagger]

Probably. ||Hades|| is the closest to a "he's like me" boss in the game.

[drifting citrus]

||all damage on you is +100%||

[fossil sentinel]

I think it’s only from his spear attacks

That are boosted

[drifting citrus]

(while lodged)

it’s all damage, iirc

[fossil sentinel]

I’ve been hit by the shockwaves and I don’t think it did extra damage

I’ll check next time I get to him

[opal nimbus]

Moving from discussion forum :) Hey everyone I am like 120 runs in and I can't get the Achilles contract to pop in in any way. I am taking all the patrocolous rooms I see in Ellisium, but it is just pointless dialogue - am I missing a trigger ?

[tepid narwhal]

have you already freed orpheus & sisyphus

[opal nimbus]

Correct. I have all the companions and I have one more invitation to give for the final feat

Basically almost maxed out except this

All keepsakes on 3, all companions on 5. Just the lyre and final feat available

[tepid narwhal]

😔

[opal nimbus]

So there is no special trigger ?

And I am just mega unlucky ?

[karmic bolt]

if it makes you feel better, I've maxed every friendship and still don't have epilogue trigger

smh

[undone geyser]

it’s rng

it progresses a bit every time you talk to patroclus

[opal nimbus]

I see. Thanks for your help everyone ! Guess I will have to keep grinding :)

[undone geyser]

good luck, may your patroclus encounters be plentiful 🙏

[opal nimbus]

Thanks :)

[karmic bolt]

gluck

[obtuse chasm]

Relationship stuff- ||as someone who's polyamorous in real life I'm really blown away by how they're representing than x zag x meg. They're having proper negotiations and checking in about jealousy and handling it real well. I'm proud of them and the writers for making it so realistic and wholesome.||

[tepid narwhal]

omg the dialogues truly cover everything, huh

[obtuse chasm]

Dude yes. It's incredible. I'm already obsessed with fictional ships, this is killing me

Also ||when you get into each relationship, the gods will all have little comments. Unsurprisingly ares loves that I've chosen such a worthy mate as thanatos XD||

And OMG ||HYPNOS. he just says "is it true? Is what my brother said true about you and him? Wow! Woah!!!" It's precious||

[tepid narwhal]

o wow hhshshs

[obtuse chasm]

🤣 I'm a giddy bi fanboy today don't mind me

[tepid narwhal]

unrelated but god, every time i talk to demeter it feels like shes going to hand u a werthers candy

[obtuse chasm]

Agreed. She's also the only one who's not fangirling over my relationships. 🤣🤣🤣

[tepid narwhal]

too chill for that hshahs

[obtuse chasm]

groan 🤣

Ok this is a dumb question and I have hesitated to ask y'all but the people in here right now seem chill.

Uh, is there any dialogue confirming the body temperature of than or zag? I have read so much fanfiction playing with their body temps being dramatically different.

I know zag obviously has fire feet. But is than cold?

[tepid narwhal]

burned by zags feet 😔

also i just got this dialogue & ||https://gyazo.com/0963a9ca7e9b9f3ba6e87fd0d2a26e60|| maam ||ur my grandma||

[obtuse chasm]

ZOINKS ||GRANDMA CHILL||

burned by zags feet 😔
@tepid narwhal but it's...it's good. Somehow. 🥴

[tepid narwhal]

it only just occured to me that nobody has shoes in this game

[obtuse chasm]

Uh...woah. Tru

[tepid narwhal]

i guess || it gives u a way to tell when hades appears after he disappears||

[karmic bolt]

fake, hermes has shoes

[obtuse chasm]

Lol yes

[tepid narwhal]

hermes, the only shoes haver

[obtuse chasm]

🤣🤣🤣

[karmic bolt]

😛

[full cave]

Doesn't hades too?

[karmic bolt]

I think achilles and his bro have shoes, didn't check

hades has no shoes on

[tepid narwhal]

hades has no shoes

[karmic bolt]

same feet as you

[tepid narwhal]

wait is hades having no shoes spoilers 😂

[karmic bolt]

not a spoiler

he's your dad mate

it's genetic

nvm I wooshed myself XD

[tepid narwhal]

lolll

[obtuse chasm]

||shoes are genetic now I guess 🤣🤣||

Wait does Meg have heels? She looks like she'd wear heels. Let me find out.

[karmic bolt]

I bet they got a hell of a deal on them

[tepid narwhal]

wait why does zag get lava damage if his feet are already on fire

[karmic bolt]

he says so ingame

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah she does haha

[tepid narwhal]

DOES HE HAHA

[karmic bolt]

he's "lava resistant" or something

makes some comment about not being flameproof

[obtuse chasm]

||Yeah he can walk on it for a second and then it starts to do damage.||

[upbeat willow]

The line is: "I'm fire resistant not fire proof"

[karmic bolt]

^yeah that

[obtuse chasm]

Hahahah

Yesss

[tepid narwhal]

ah hahah

ig that makes sense

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nobody does ig

except maybe nyx, secret shoes

[obtuse chasm]

Nyx makes me so happy. I just love her.

[tepid narwhal]

maybe charon has secret shoes too

[karmic bolt]

I love the idea of secret shoes

[obtuse chasm]

I kind of hope she comments on ||me and Than|| soon. She's busy talking about ||chaos a lot||

[karmic bolt]

she does comment on it eventually

[obtuse chasm]

🥰🥰🥰

[karmic bolt]

she did on my last playthrough

[obtuse chasm]

Good !!

There is a lot going on plot wise for me right now, so the conversations are all over the place but I did just ||romance Than and I just unlocked dusa though I know she friend zones ya 🤣||

[karmic bolt]

I think im just gonna keep taking || demeter || keepsake and then zeus if he doesn't appear, only epilogue thing I think I maybe missed even though I maxed all trinkets

[tepid narwhal]

😔 dusa best girl

[karmic bolt]

*best friend you mean

[obtuse chasm]

My brother said something that I think was possibly accurate? But platonic is also great! ||He said she seems to be asexual but not aromantic||

I haven't gotten there yet so we'll see what I think lol

[tepid narwhal]

also im lol @ asterius's horns being like somewhat reasonably sized in the sprites but in the game model theyre like half ur height

[obtuse chasm]

I love asterius so much lol

[digital fractal]

Asterius is beating me up badly 😂

[obtuse chasm]

He tends to do that. I hate shields more tho. At least you can always easily hit him. theseus is so...😤

[tepid narwhal]

theseus is funny tho

[obtuse chasm]

Zag's dialogue to him cracks me up 🤣🤣🤣

[tepid narwhal]

gotta kill him first tho bc the way he reacts 2 asterius dying breaks my heart 😔

chill dude hes coming back in like 5 mins

[digital fractal]

Now I wanna go kill Asterius first to see how he reacts

[obtuse chasm]

I have all these thoughts about the whole...death and coming back thing

Like how does it happen, just boom and then somehow teleport to the bottom of styx?

Or does one of the gods come to assist?

[tepid narwhal]

i dont think the gods can reach that far

[obtuse chasm]

So how does it happen? 🤣 I'm so curious.

[ivory spire]

It's Zagreus' innate ability

[tepid narwhal]

mb ur particles just manifest into the styx & u get glued back together

[ivory spire]

He survived worse (specifically, being mauled by the Titans) so I'm sure he can regenerate from basically anything

[obtuse chasm]

He's magical ✨

[karmic bolt]

hades is a magical girl?

or is zagreus a magical girl?

together they're the hades scouts

[tepid narwhal]

both hshsh

|| but when u kill hades does he also have to crawl out of the styx lol ||

[obtuse chasm]

OK YES

That

So many questions

[unreal dagger]

yeah i reported it as a bug, cause aphrodite is exhausted, and she won't unlock her heart

[tepid narwhal]

rip

[karmic bolt]

||aphrodite you have to romance everyone||

[obtuse chasm]

||OH that makes a lot of sense and is adorable.||

[tepid narwhal]

oh wait || it actually gets explained i think that shades notice stuff happening w hades but r just too scared to speak out LOL ||

[obtuse chasm]

OH YEAH I remember that now

||I'm picturing him just crawling out so pissed off ahahaha||

[digital fractal]

Going to Elysium with the weapon I'm worst at now. Wish me luck 😅

[tepid narwhal]

hshshhaa

[unreal dagger]

||aphrodite you have to romance everyone||
@karmic bolt i literally bonded with everyone except mom and dad

[obtuse chasm]

May the Gods favor you @digital fractal

[tepid narwhal]

when people say elysium boss is the hardest || have never fought the tiny vermin & it shows ||

[obtuse chasm]

@tepid narwhal I. Hate. Them.

||the big ones are awful too. That poison 😤||

[digital fractal]

No, no I haven't theseus xD

[obtuse chasm]

Don't look forward to that 🥴

[karmic bolt]

rip

rng bites again

[digital fractal]

Whelps, I found Asterius alone

[tepid narwhal]

i wonder what theseus does when asterius is just chillin.. does he have hobbies

[karmic bolt]

he repairs chariots for a living

[tepid narwhal]

||in my mind he just hangs out in erebus & asterius doesnt go bc hes just like, done with that place||

[fossil sentinel]

he repairs chariots for a living
@karmic bolt that’s my new head canon now

[tepid narwhal]

hshah he just busts into daedalus's workshop to pester him into teaching the ways of chariot repair

[digital fractal]

Which are the Flame Wheel foes?

[fossil sentinel]

Small chariots that make cat sounds and explode

[tepid narwhal]

they are so cute but cause so much lag

[digital fractal]

Ah yep, definitely buying the item that bans them for 10 encounters

[fossil sentinel]

Maybe Theseus raises them like a crazy cat lady

[digital fractal]

(I died)

[obtuse chasm]

They're horrible

[tepid narwhal]

flame wheels: for 75 obols i will stop

[iron owl]

||I think I have enough hearts on like 6 Olympians yet I don't think I'm triggering the epilogue||

[tepid narwhal]

Maybe Theseus raises them like a crazy cat lady
@fossil sentinel ty for the imagery
https://gyazo.com/95323abb38c9091d2e6df7791642df70

[frozen jolt]

LOL

[pliant socket]

😂

Is it possible to do all the other character quests without having to release Sisyphus?

Like the Orpheus and Eurydice and Achille and Patroclus stories

I

Don't want to release Sisyphus

For personal reasons 😌

[tepid narwhal]

i unlocked orpheus first but idk abt achilles

[pliant socket]

I released Orpheus but haven't been able to bring Eurydice back yet

[wooden galleon]

I heard that you cant brute force Achilles and Patroclus

You need to have a certain amount of conversation

[pliant socket]

Ohhh

I see I see

[wooden galleon]

Also I do Sisyphus last lmao

[pliant socket]

Good to know

I'm planning to leave Sisyphus there forever

[tepid narwhal]

yeah you need to talk to them a lot but achilles wont even discuss the pact unless you freed other ppl first

[wooden galleon]

I heard that ||Bouldy will give you boons||

[pliant socket]

I thought you didn't have to release him for that

[wooden galleon]

I have yet to be friend with Bouldy lol

I just free Orpheus

[pliant socket]

I became friends with bouldy today

[wooden galleon]

And Achille unlocked

[pliant socket]

👀

[wooden galleon]

I was at my 70th escape attempt when I try to help Achilles

[pliant socket]

I feel bad about releasing Sisyphus since I maxed out relationship with thanatos

[wooden galleon]

Hdhdhdhd

[pliant socket]

Ohhh I just finished my 68th attempt

[wooden galleon]

For me Thanatos is awfully hard to bribe 😂

[pliant socket]

Ikr? He wouldn't appear for the longest time

I was like nearly 30 attempts in before he even showed his face

[wooden galleon]

Petition to make Thanatos easier to reach out than Meg

[lethal slate]

So for the gyan yu aspect do I have to get 5 of the 2 cost titan blood aspects

[wooden galleon]

I think so yeah

You gotta invest

[lethal slate]

HMMMMMM

Ok

[pliant socket]

Guan Yu is so hard to use

I keep getting hit before I can even activate the spin so I just die

[wooden galleon]

Try to unlock Arthur or Lucifer lol

Wait I mean the fist aspect

Lucifer is a bit hard to use too

[pliant socket]

Talos? Or Gilgamesh

[wooden galleon]

Gilgamesh I think

[pliant socket]

I don't have enough titan blood 😔

[lethal slate]

I am getting gyan yu because I need it to get the others

[wooden galleon]

Guan Yu... The only thing I have used with it is Demeter on attack

It's really hard...

[pliant socket]

The farthest I've gotten with Guan Yu is Elysium

But I'm really bad so 😂

[wooden galleon]

Yeah I lost 2/3 DD there

[lethal slate]

Did you have any heat

[wooden galleon]

5 I think

[pliant socket]

I had like 3

[wooden galleon]

But I am also on god mode

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[pliant socket]

I lost a lot of DD to buffed up hydra

[carmine gale]

...wow charon is tough

[lethal slate]

Guys say any wepon

[tepid narwhal]

i like guanyu 😂 its the one that helps me kill the butterfly ball the fastest

[pliant socket]

The first time I fought him I lost 2 DD I did not see it coming

[tepid narwhal]

i got rid of it before the weapons dudes spawned i never felt so powerful

[pliant socket]

The "borrow” part was suspicious but I didn't know and believed it 😔

Oh wow

[wooden galleon]

Also Ares on Lucifer is such a killer

[pliant socket]

How to activate the spin on Guan Yu before die

[lethal slate]

someone say what wepon I should use for my next run

[carmine gale]

I was on 4 heat (highest I've done so far) and he rekt me

[wooden galleon]

I always use which weapon has bonus

[azure bluff]

@lethal slate poseidon blade

[wooden galleon]

[pliant socket]

Me too

[lethal slate]

OK

[pliant socket]

Farming gems for furniture

[wooden galleon]

Yup gotta provide for the family since your dad ain't 😔

[pliant socket]

I want to get him the dog chair

[wooden galleon]

Also I love using Aphrodite call on Hades 😂

[pliant socket]

Yeah

[tepid narwhal]

my favorite furniture is || the giant theseus painting ||

[wooden galleon]

It's both ironic and effective

[pliant socket]

Aphrodite and Athena calls are my favorite for hades

I like asking Thanatos to beat up Theseus for me 😌

[wooden galleon]

If only

Also ||Patroclus tells Achilles to beat Theseus up|| too

[tepid narwhal]

hsahah if u use skelly on him hes just like WHO IS THIS

[pliant socket]

Today Achilles called Theseus "prideful" and "unaware" and laughed about his chariot outfit

[tepid narwhal]

i love him but i also love to bully him

[gaunt talon]

ok let's try that again - I

I've gone 20 runs to elysium in a row without the asterius miniboss while trying to do fist unlocks, wish me luck

because I need it

2.5% odds of that much failure

[vale glacier]

i beat the game (to epilogue) and still dont have a companion unlocked

like whats the point

never got a favor trigger

never had a chance to make use of ambrosia

[tepid narwhal]

tbf companions are mostly just for flexing on theseus to show that u have the capacity to make more than one friend so

[gaunt talon]

if my only friend was a handsome minotaur though it wouldn't be nothing

[tepid narwhal]

tru

maybe thats why he acts Like That all the time

he snagged himself a nice bull man & now thinks hes above everything hshahaha

[obtuse chasm]

LOL

[crystal bluff]

I am.... furious at achilles

I'm waiting for him ||To unlock hidden aspects|| but because of various sidequests and other story things

he simply won't

[surreal mango]

Thanatos is a tease...THIS GAME IS JUST...NOT...LETTING...MY...SHIP...HAPPEN!!!!

I have 1 Ambrosia left I need to give him and every time he's in a run, I come back and Than is TALKING TO SOMEONE ELSE!

WHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYY GAME!?

[obtuse chasm]

It will happen, he's just extremely... Idk. Thanatos. Lol

Tsundere pretty much

[tepid narwhal]

thanatos is the deadbeat friend who calls YOU deadbeat

[obtuse chasm]

Lmao

Yes 😭

[surreal mango]

But he's a good death bean tho...

[red quarry]

Do you have to buy Aspect of Guan Yu for the other aspects to start showing up? Or is just having it visible enough

[gaunt talon]

yes

DANG IT 21 RUNS NO BULL MINIBOSS

[obtuse chasm]

@surreal mango he is the best boy

[gaunt talon]

maybe I

[tepid narwhal]

asterius is too busy feeding the flame wheels to fight u either ig 😔

[gaunt talon]

you can only get one miniboss on elysium right?

[surreal mango]

Yes.

[red quarry]

@gaunt talon was that yes to me?

[surreal mango]

I think?

[gaunt talon]

yea

[red quarry]

I said 2 things though...

[gaunt talon]

god this sucks I just want to get all the aspects

and I've gotten exhausted and screwed over by RNG

[red quarry]

which thing was it a yes too?

[gaunt talon]

yes to guan yu buy

[red quarry]

ah ok, so it can't just be visible. RIP guess I gotta waste 5 blood 😦

[gaunt talon]

Is there any way to RNG manipulate?

[tepid narwhal]

the closest thing is that fated persuasion thing to the doors but then u dont know what youll get when u use it

[lapis tangle]

on the than talk, i'm suffering lol

can't unlock his route no matter what </3

[tepid narwhal]

u have to beat him in the competition thing when he shows up

[lapis tangle]

he was the first i got to full nectar, i'm over 100hrs in game and way post credits

yeah i beat him every time

[tepid narwhal]

rip

[lapis tangle]

its big frustrating

[tepid narwhal]

rng not on ur side 😔

[lapis tangle]

forreal </3

just wanna smooch death

feelsbad

[obtuse chasm]

Ive been drowning my sorrows in fanfic and fanart

There's a pleasant amount of it

I did finally get him today though

🥰

It'll happen

[lapis tangle]

ahhhh lucky!

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah I genuinely did get lucky cause I've been told he's not super common. I got him about every other run for a while and that helped big time

[lapis tangle]

apparently the dialogue i need to get trigger is something along the lines of "you think you can get out of here without my help?"

so i go into every encounter with him fkn praying for it LOL

and it never it

is*

yeah i get him almost every run ;u;

[obtuse chasm]

Do you have to win or lose to him to get it?

I don't know, I got it pretty quickly

But yes that convo was shippy as hell. 🥴

[lapis tangle]

yeah i had another friend get it to trigger really fast after he was at full nectar

its 100% just rng i'm pretty sure

[obtuse chasm]

That's probably it. I had so much nectar to give him lmao

[gaunt talon]

until asterius becomes a romance route thanatos is the best crush

[lapis tangle]

omfg please let us romance asterius LOL

[obtuse chasm]

I legit traded so many keys for nectar that it took me ages to unlock the mirror

Omg I want

Let zag be with everyone

[lapis tangle]

honestly

[obtuse chasm]

He's so precious and deserves it

And his unrequited crush on achilles is also everything

[lapis tangle]

i love seeing people be like "wait arent they related isn't that gross" about ships and its like... they really just don't know greek mythology lmfaoooo

[obtuse chasm]

Lol this is very very tame

[lapis tangle]

exactly :'D

[obtuse chasm]

In fact it's kinda soft

Compared to meg?

It's very much more emotional and loving and soft. But it's angsty as hell

[gaunt talon]

meg's route I didn't know this game had romance stuff

so when that final scene happened it took me off guard a little haha

[obtuse chasm]

The meg dialogue after you get her in bed is...

😳

[gaunt talon]

the whipping sound effects...

[obtuse chasm]

Like it's very clear to me they have a set of (at least playful) rules in place

If you catch my drift

[gaunt talon]

a pretty mild one judging by how soft she goes in the boss fight

[obtuse chasm]

Bwahahah

[frozen jolt]

please keep it clean!

[tepid narwhal]

man i feel bad for the furies bc nobody loses to them again after the first few times maybe

[obtuse chasm]

Gotcha... Sorry bout that

Yeah they usually don't get me anymor

But sometimes the bullet hell is just too much lol

It depends on my weapon

[frozen jolt]

lol yes theyre a pretty easy fight.. unless you turn up the heat. though alecto is the hardest for me still

[obtuse chasm]

Oh my heat is up, but not on bosses.

[gaunt talon]

back to bull fights... is there any conspiracy theories people have for RNG manipulation

[obtuse chasm]

Alecto just doesn't STOP

[gaunt talon]

heat on bosses was the first thing I turned up

[obtuse chasm]

hahahah yeah I might do that when we have family hades day

[gaunt talon]

with the logic that I could learn the patterns earlier so that when other stuff cost me health and resources I would have the muscle memory at least

[obtuse chasm]

My bro is like. Slaying this game

I'm focused on the story

That's legit

[gaunt talon]

faster enemies though

that scares me

[obtuse chasm]

Same

Hermes trinket? 🤣

[gaunt talon]

i just realised

[obtuse chasm]

...what are they called? Not trinkets

Binding of isaac brain

[gaunt talon]

what if I get to talk to the bull but he doesn't do the conversation I need

[tepid narwhal]

w the way rng is that will probably happen rip

[obtuse chasm]

Hmm he will eventually. Which one are you trying for? I've had a lot with him

So yeah it might be a while

[tepid narwhal]

also you need to encounter him at least twice

[gaunt talon]

god is this game karma for me getting cricket's head brimstone runs in Isaac?

I've encountered him a lot

[tepid narwhal]

bc u need to beat him w the first so he mentions the weapon

[obtuse chasm]

@gaunt talon THAT WAS THE BEST

[tepid narwhal]

and then u have to beat him again to get the code thing

[obtuse chasm]

Reminds me of (end boss spoiler)||hades second form attack||

[gaunt talon]

I love how much (10+ win spoiler) ||The dynamic changes with Hades fights after 10+ wins, when Persephone is in the Underworld. It becomes less angry fight and more play wrestling||

[tepid narwhal]

i love the fishing dialogue u get

|| also the one thats just like: see... u... at.. home...||

[gaunt talon]

22 no bull

If this was a SNES game I'd have put in game shark by this point

Does giving up mean you keep the run seed?

[upbeat willow]

yep

[gaunt talon]

LETS GO

because I just need to take the RIGHT miniboss door instead

if luck isn't on my side, manipulation is

[upbeat willow]

🤞

[gaunt talon]

Didn’t keep the fun seed

23

[void agate]

hello friends!!!! ||is there a secret boss in the game other than charon? a friend told me something about a titan but I don't see anything anywhere.||

[summer sage]

does anyone know how to trigger to get Charged Flight daedalus upgrade on the shield? I have done many runs but it is not popping up for me. I know you cannot have it on Chaos and Zeus aspects, but I have literally done 5 runs and it will not come in every time i get a hammer. I even anvil every time and no dice. Any advice?

[rigid furnace]

@void agate Your friend is probably the same kid who went around the playground telling everyone that Sonic and Tails were unlockable in SSBM.

@summer sage RNG is a poopyhead.

[summer sage]

I've played this game so much and yeah it's honestly tilting at this point

[rigid furnace]

Stupid heckin' filter.

[summer sage]

Makes me not want to play it anymore lol

Yeah it's trash

Wish there was more manipulation for that in the game

Thanks bud @rigid furnace

[rigid furnace]

Just be patient, I say. Those prophecies aren't going anywhere.

Unless you've 100%ed the game except for that, in which case you need a 🐛 report.

[elfin tangle]

@open berry sorry late reply but thank you!

[shut estuary]

100 hours in and i don't feel nothing bad, still side missions, still features, still events, still unlockbles, still humor phrases, still beatifull.

[old badger]

Hiya!

What happens if you|| bring the Chaos Egg to the Hades Final Booss fight? ||

I'm even more curious now because I already fixed up ||Chaos and Nyx|| and he still seems to have another request

[south ravine]

Just try it

[wooden galleon]

What happens if you|| bring the Chaos Egg to the Hades Final Booss fight? ||
Nothing much, really

[marble frost]

@old badger what really happens is ||a secret you have to discover for yourself, like magic or friendship, because the egg was inside you the whole time||

but seriously ||Chaos has its fun, is happy, and you both have a laugh over that bonding experience||

[old badger]

OOOOH looks like something nice to enjoy. Thanks guys!! Maybe when I'm more confident about winning the fight XD

[shut estuary]

OOOOH looks like something nice to enjoy. Thanks guys!! Maybe when I'm more confident about winning the fight XD
@old badger whart i know is that if you ||finish the game with the Chaos Egg, Chaos will tell you and say thanks, and you will do the task to the fated list||

[old badger]

OOH now it's ALSO a good farming task. Thank you!!!

[shut estuary]

yea, EVERYTHING in this game is a good farming task XD

and i love it

[old badger]

BRUH IKR. THE GAME ITSELF IS ALREADY REWARD ENOUGH BUT THE QUEST REWARDS??? MAKING IT EVEN BETTER

[jade slate]

chaos is a cool dude

in like the nonbinary version of the word dude

[old badger]

Yeah I distrusted them at first but it looks like they're pretty cool after all whimsical as they are

They're just that friend who bleeps in and out of contact then suddenly has cool surprises for you

(((I am that friend)))

[prime mulch]

the whole family is just a wacky soap opera

[tulip nimbus]

Underworld family is best family

[wooden galleon]

I trust Super Giant too much

I have yet to play Pyre tho

[ashen forge]

So, i'm still locked out of aphrodite, ares, artemis, demeter and hermes relationship progression, what do i need to do to unlock them and have the ability to give them nectar?

[fast idol]

Demeter is post epilogue

Ares is at some point after you finished his "kill 10.000 enemies" or something thing

Artemis just happened to me after getting her boons a few times
I think you need to have had a potential romance for Aphrodit and Hermes triggers at some point when you show him his Keepsake when it is leveled to 3*

[ashen forge]

Thanks 👍

[smoky umbra]

how do you advance with orpheus? I'm currently telling him about great things I've done but I haven't gotten any dialogue for like 3 runs

[tulip nimbus]

I trust Super Giant too much
@wooden galleon I haven't played Transistor or Pyre, but I fear Hades is unsurpassable. It might be my favorite game of all time, and I've been playing games since 98

[wooden galleon]

In term of story I like Transistor the best

I also like the turn base style game more than rogue like

I think Bastion also looks very nice and has good music

[tulip nimbus]

Bastion is sooo good too

[atomic forge]

for the keepsake achievement, it says "standard" keepsakes. Does that mean any are excluded?

[frozen jolt]

Companions are excluded

[atomic forge]

Ah, that was my guess on the wording

Thanks 🙂

[fast idol]

lmao I was like that with every SGG game
After Transistor I was like "they can't make anything better than this" and then they released Pyre
and after Pyre I was like "okay but they really can't go better than this" and then they released Hades like

they know how to work with solid foundations and make better and better games

[wooden galleon]

Also... I am really really attracted to Zagreus' (Darren Korb) voice

At first I'm like, well here goes another male protagonist

And then I hear his voice

At first I thought damn SG hiring professional voice actor now?

[fast idol]

I think some of them are at least from outside right?

[wooden galleon]

Turn out it is Darren Korb himself... And I have a crush now

[smoky umbra]

how do you advance with orpheus? I'm currently telling him about great things I've done but I haven't gotten any dialogue for like 3 runs

[rocky dirge]

His quest? Through Eurydice

[coarse helm]

dam

tfw when you prep really hard for a hades fight ||but the fight doesnt happen cause you get to travel home with persephone||

[vestal quail]

Okay I just saw ||Zagreus|| in the employee of the month board and that made me stupid happy

[coarse helm]

is the game based off actual greek mythology

[fossil sentinel]

Not entirely

[full basin]

@coarse helm lol yeah I had that same issue. My build was legendary and I didn’t even get to fight!

[frozen jolt]

@full basin please spoiler tag that!

[coarse helm]

is that considered the offical ending/epilogue

also how do u buy aspect of guan yu

[heady timber]

learn the name from an npc

[pliant mirage]

aspect of ||guan yu|| is given to you by ||achilles|| when you fulfill the requirements

[fossil sentinel]

#h1-story-discussion message

Should tell you how to get each hidden aspect

[manic cave]

36 attempts and I finally got to see the end credits!

Is there any story beyond the credits? they make it seem like there is

[frozen jolt]

yes

[atomic forge]

It's family therapy 101, after the credits roll lmao

[spare remnant]

There’s ||Epilogue|| and ||post-Epilogue|| dialogue. Some characters you need to finish the former to unlock the relationship meter between them.

[rocky dirge]

Damn, did I just get friendzoned???

[spare remnant]

By ||Dusa||?

She basically tells you she’s ||Asexual|| and then you have the conversation about ||“the different kinds of love”||

[rocky dirge]

Hm, didnt have that convo, I think?

[spare remnant]

It’s spread across a few dialogue I believe

[rocky dirge]

Ah, just had the one in the bedroom

She says ||she doesnt see Zag that way and rather stay friends||

[spare remnant]

Ah yeah

I kinda wish you had the option to be ||an Aro/Ace couple|| with her.

[digital fractal]

It is in my understanding that I can be in a relationship with ||Meg|| and ||Than|| at the same time?

[fossil sentinel]

Yes

[mystic viper]

I dont know why it took me so long to see Hades is the game Matpat gave to the pope.

[red quarry]

I don't understand what I am missing. I am trying to unlock the hidden aspects. I've purchased the Guan Yu aspect, but no other weapons, despite having over 5 bloods spent on the aspects are unlocking? What am I missing

[atomic forge]

Luck
You know who gives what aspect yes?

[red quarry]

I believe so yes. I've been using the bow (aspect of Hera) and I've talked with artemis like 20+ times

[atomic forge]

That and perhaps other stuff are the priority

[red quarry]

but still haven't unlocked it

[fervent marsh]

Is there a way to skip the ||post-main quest death scenes? the ones where the narrator thinks of a way for zagreus to bite the dust. I'm pretty sure i've seen them all twice now. ||

||I mean after you defeat Hades each time and go through the exit||

[digital fractal]

On the topic of Infernal Arms aspects, can I purchase them before having my first victory run?

[atomic forge]

Yes you can

[velvet hatch]

I believe the terms are to just reach the final boss

Not to beat it

[fervent marsh]

Please don't advertise your own servers here.

[frozen jolt]

#self-promotion for that please!

[atomic forge]

Regular aspects require having all weapons and at least one titan blood... unless the wiki is wrobg
Reaching the final boss requirement is only for Guan Yu

[mystic viper]

So... After making it to the end with 5 heat, all my other runs have to be 6 heat?

[fervent marsh]

They don't have to be. You just get darkness instead of the normal rewards. Good for darkness farming.

[mystic viper]

Or can I still do 5 heat for the last two ambrosia I am missing?

Ah I see.. Okay! Ima try to get my last bounties before bumping it to 6!

[fervent marsh]

Remember heat is weapon-dependent.

[mystic viper]

Yes, I thought it was overall

Thank you!

[fervent marsh]

Each weapon has it's own record for bounties.

[atomic forge]

I heard you can overfill it and it'll fill out each heat bounties one by one?

[mystic viper]

I dont think Ill be able to do a full run with the other weapons for the last extra titan blood but It worth a shot!

[fervent marsh]

IF you over fill it, it will do the bounty for the lowest available tier

[mystic viper]

So I were to do 10 heat.. for the next 5 runs it would just run through the bounties?

[fervent marsh]

So if I've gotten up to heat 5 for bounties and 6 is lowest heat with bounties available, If I set it to heat 9, i will only get the bounties from heat 6

So there is technically no benefit to overfilling, besides practicing.

[mystic viper]

But in the next run you dont need to change a thing and you would get bounties 7 and so on?

[fervent marsh]

true...

[atomic forge]

It's like boiling a frog, except you are the frog

[mystic viper]

Mmmm.. It might be worth doing something like forced overtime and "boss upgrade" to just get used to them anyways

Cause those aren't crazy heat additives but it would for sure feel off at first no matter what

[atomic forge]

can someone pls let me know when I can gift mom

shes the last keepsake i need

killed dad like 10 times alrdy

maybe my game is bugged

you can only give her gifts after the credits, you sure you killed Hades 10 times?

I talk to her and then styx takes me

never seen credits i think

perhaps it's the 11th time where your father just lets you go

Ok maybe not 10 times

4-5 times

well then keep at it, it doesn't have any other requirements

kinda weird i ahvent seen credits..

[lost knot]

how high of heat and how many runs do i need for the last part of the story so far

is it the 10 wins

[atomic forge]

Only 10 wins for the ending
For the epilogue you need to get them hearts with olympians

[vagrant cloak]

god

damn

that final boss

EM4 is nothing to play around with

he's kicked me down on two perfect overpowered runs now

[static adder]

ok time to see what's behind the 32 heat sheet

I've probably already seen this in videos but I forgot

I sure wonder what it could be

yup

btw how many levels are there to the resource director

[atomic forge]

50

[static adder]

is it just the same requirements looped or does it get harder and harder

[open berry]

its a resource sink

its not necessarily "harder" its just a means to put resources you no longer have any use for into

[weak fern]

So I just finished playing Hades, and honestly it's amazing what a story can do for a rogue game

Finished beating Hades for the first time*

[atomic forge]

I kinda regret skipping all the dialogue

Its just so much babble

[weak fern]

Yeah I get that, some of it is definitely filler

But after playing rogues like Dead Cells and Rogue Legacy, this was a good take

[steep drift]

I mean, it's not like roguelites couldn't have some story stuff - FTL had some, for example, as does Into The Breach. But Hades has a lot (arguably, it would benefit from having slightly more control over it) for the metagenre, yeah.

[unreal dagger]

i bought all the decorative themes cause it was pissing me off the exclamation mark every single time i entered the house

now can we get a random option?

whats your fav decorative theme guys

[static verge]

fighting hades with extreme measures 4

"HAH"

"I WIN"

GET READY FOR ROUND 3

oh man...

[coarse helm]

To get guan yu do u have to clear with achille spear

Or any wep

[unreal dagger]

https://i.imgur.com/l1s5vaW.png

@fickle yoke

[fickle yoke]

ok thx

mb i missed it

[unreal dagger]

no probs

[fickle yoke]

i dont have it anyway 160 only

[empty oriole]

To get guan yu do u have to clear with achille spear
@coarse helm https://hades.gamepedia.com/Eternal_Spear according to the wiki, it seems you have to reach the final boss, invest Titan Blood into 5 non-zag aspects, and then talk to achilles

[coarse helm]

So keep finishing runs with achilles spear?

[empty oriole]

That's not necessary, it seems

[static verge]

clear at least once with the spear

[coarse helm]

Ive cleared like 4x with spear

[bleak lichen]

You don’t need to finish the runs. I don’t know if I’d even cleared with spear when I got it

[static verge]

did you invest titan blood into the spear?

[coarse helm]

Ya

[bleak lichen]

I never played Stygian Blade but got its hidden aspect as well

[coarse helm]

I just never used achilles spear tho

[static verge]

don't have to use aspect of achilles

[coarse helm]

Oh

[static verge]

if you already did the first three requirements

just keep playing and achilles will give you the waking phrase

other events may get in the way

cause only 1 event can happen at a time per character

[coarse helm]

So keep clearing with spear

[static verge]

Just keep playing

doesn't have to be with the spear

[bleak lichen]

Huh, spear requires non Zag Titan blood investment but Sword didn’t. I only did the Zag aspect on Sword because of ||Skelly fate||

[static verge]

wait I thought any aspect works?

whatever

oh okay, it's 5 titan blood into anything that's not zagreus aspect on any weapon

[red quarry]

Still can't get any of the hidden aspects but guan yu ... not sure what I am still missing... .I purchased Guan yu, I've spent over 5 bloods on aspects various weapons (5 or more in each weapon), I've used the weapons and talked numerous times with the specific gods but no one is giving me any of the aspects

Do I need to be using the base weapon when I talk to the gods for them to offer the hidden aspect?

[static verge]

no

[red quarry]

oops

[unreal dagger]

you might have to use them beforehand, just so the gods notice the weapon

then give you the line

[red quarry]

I have no idea why I am not being offered them out of pure bad rng

[static verge]

the characters probably have a bunch of dialogue they want to cycle through

[red quarry]

Well oddly enough they ahve commented on my weapons before...

[unreal dagger]

yeah some conversations have priotity

[static verge]

like zeus has the main story stuff to get through

[red quarry]

I've talked to Artemis with the bow like 50-60 times already not even joking

I doubt after 60ish conversations she hasn't used up the lines...

[static verge]

did you get guan yu yet?

[red quarry]

Yeah

I've even beat hades with guan yu

[unreal dagger]

you can tell when the lines are exhausted

[red quarry]

and he commented on the blade

Numerous times in a run, most gods won't say anything when I get boons from them now

is that not a sign they are out of dialogue then idk what is

[static verge]

gods usually don't say more than one thing per run

usually only saying other stuff when getting dual boons or trial angerment

stuff like that

[red quarry]

Even still .. I can't see how artemis wouldn't have exhausted all her dialogue after like 15 runs (since you are suggesting its only 1 dialogue per run)

shes even commented on the bow before which is weird

but it never offered me the aspect

[static verge]

how much blood is in coronacht

[red quarry]

I've talked with chaos ... maybe 10 times total. I went in with shield and he instantly told me about the hidden aspect for shield. Its just artemis who refuses to acknowledge what I've done with bow.

[atomic forge]

Anyone know why I can't get the last heart with Dusa? It's been ages since I could give her ambrosia...

[red quarry]

If you give up during a run, do you keep any hidden aspect you would have unlocked and gems / so on?

[brittle fossil]

Anyone know why I can't get the last heart with Dusa? It's been ages since I could give her ambrosia...
@atomic forge it requires a lot, like 5 I think

[atomic forge]

@brittle fossil I have 16.

Dunno

[brittle fossil]

Oh? That’s tough. Let me look into it

[rocky dirge]

Might just be RNG for the dialogue

[brittle fossil]

Yeah have you actually gifted her ambrosia three times now? Because after that it’s just waiting for the dialogue

And sometimes she wasn’t available to give gifts to, like if she was having a conversation with someone else

[hidden kestrel]

@red quarry nope. You need to get yourself killed to save a run

[atomic forge]

Ok yeah it seems I might just need the dialogue

[brittle fossil]

Yeah for Dusa it was probably like 4-5 runs after that that the dialogue actually unlocked

[lethal slate]

How do I get skellys prize?

[atomic forge]

I need that to finish the bond with Aphrodite. I have only Aphrodite, Ares, Demeter, Poseidon and Dusa to max, and I can't get the epilogue yet

[lethal slate]

Never mind

[red quarry]

ok ill just suicide then to end run

[timber geode]

Still Poseidon and Hermes refuse to unlock their hearts for me, even though I did ALL of their favors

[mystic viper]

Okay. learned the hard way stay on your heat if you dont need to add heat. got it

[rocky dirge]

Still Poseidon and Hermes refuse to unlock their hearts for me, even though I did ALL of their favors
@timber geode Did you start the epilogue already? Story dialogue has priority over everything else

Okay. learned the hard way stay on your heat if you dont need to add heat. got it
@mystic viper Not all heat is equivalent. Some of those modifiers are much harder than others, regardless of the numerical increase!

[mystic viper]

I was trying to get more diamonds as I am in hell mode and defeated the last boss so I thought getting used to 6 heat with my other weapons would allow me to get the new diamonds but I was sorely mistaken. Still getting darkness xD

Finish the bounties list is what I learned.

[timber geode]

Yeah I finished up the epilogue

They're the only 2 im missing

[rocky dirge]

Good ol' RNG then

[timber geode]

YEP

[young canopy]

uh

there's a min of 12 loung renovations to advance Dusa relationship

can you buy all rugs

and count those as 4

even though you're using 1 at a time

[obtuse chasm]

I could be mistaken, but I think I finally got there when I got every bedroom decor, I have no idea why it took so long, I swore it was more than 12 and I didn't think bedroom counted as lounge.

[normal kiln]

pretty sure it’s just lounge

[timber geode]

UGH

Poseidon and Hermes for the love of Hades just unlock your heart for me

Getting REALLY frustrated cause I can't tell if it's bugged or not

[final crypt]

Are...are the ||Cthonic Companions alive?||

[ivory abyss]

Jesus aspect of hera is so strong

[rocky dirge]

Just beat EM3 and EM4 first try

I think this Chiron bow is pretty good huh?

[fervent marsh]

Yo I just nuked both bosses of Area 3 with|| Thanatos's companion||

Super satisfying

[coarse helm]

What does ||increasing your rank do, like the alpha warden||

[fervent marsh]

||Nothing, purely cosmetic||

[coarse helm]

Lol oof

[karmic bolt]

Y E S got the quest from || persephone || to start the true epilogue finally

[final crypt]

So , lore question..why're there soul butterflies in Elysium, considering they're petty and spiteful apparently?

[atomic forge]

Greek heroes and gods could be horrible and petty.

[pliant socket]

i think i just failed to romance thanatos what did i do wrong

i just gave him the last ambrosia and he just left 😭

i think i failed with meg too why is this happening

[timber geode]

Poseidon and Hermes PLEASE

what am I doing wrong here

[nova inlet]

I got their unlocks after equipping their keepsakes and talking to them

Not sure if you are doing that or not

Or if that's even necessary.

[atomic forge]

@pliant socket you're not failing to romance them. it just happens, and after a few runs, they'll have a conversation with you about their respective romances.

[prime mulch]

Poseidon and Hermes PLEASE
@timber geode whats wrong

What does ||increasing your rank do, like the alpha warden||
@coarse helm at least u can really become the unseen one, which is the highest rank

[timber geode]

@prime mulch Poseidon and Hermes are the only people I don't have hearts unlocked with

I've done both of their favors

gave all of the nectar

refuse to talk to me

[prime mulch]

poseidon need u to fish before getting his boon

[timber geode]

I did so many times!

but even then, nothing

same with Hermes, I wear his trinket and he doesn't talk to me

[prime mulch]

u need to max it first

[timber geode]

I did?

and like, still nothing

he's asked me twice if he wants me to say like "talk less" or "Talk normally"

but that's about it

[prime mulch]

that choice doesnt matter, the maxed trinket should be enuf

[timber geode]

I've caught so many fish before getting a Poseidon buff and he still hasn't talk to me either

and same with Hermes, using the maxed trinket

nothing

so im pretty annoyed cause they're the last 2 I need lol.

[prime mulch]

did u like just finished the epilogue?

[timber geode]

Yes.

I finished it like 2 days ago

[prime mulch]

then try to exhaust all the dialogue first i guess

[timber geode]

I guess it's just dumb rng at it again

I'm also just very grumpy cause of other game stuff so im sorry if im being rude

[merry atlas]

If I wanted to catch a|| Bass|| I would play New horizons, fff.

[timber geode]

I GOT ONE OF THEM AAAA

Now Hermes is last and I'll have all of them love me

[uncut rivet]

anyone else having issues maxing poseidon affinity? I've done everything, including his favor and epilogue and the last heart still won't unlock

[timber geode]

I just mentioned it

you need to fish up something before talking to him

it's just weird rng...

[uncut rivet]

my bad I can't read

Do you have to fish a rare one?

[timber geode]

Nope

Just any normal fish

[uncut rivet]

bless that rare one took me so long

as someone with slow reflexes LOL

[grizzled spire]

i ||beat the game enough to bring her home!||

legit love the final ending

sweet music as well

the boat ride of success :D

[timber geode]

The music is awesome

Time to go for the epilogue

[prime mulch]

thats not the ending

[errant musk]

Speaking of the boat ride, which I recently experienced.

I was listening to In the Blood for several times in a row when it hit me.

The main lyrics melody is obviously using the leitmotif of Hades - the one in the main menu and the boss fight. But the chorus part with "It's in the blood" is actually using a motif from "On the Coast". Specifically, the part that begins on about 1:20. It is the melody of reaching Percephone's cottage. The leitmotif of Percephone.

So the song actually symbolises the union of those two. At least in the main body of it.

[misty pollen]

| | test | |

|| test||

Does anyone know how to get || the epilogue ? I managed to get her back but idk how to get the invitations event to trigger||

[ivory spire]

Make friends with most Olympians then pray to RNG

[analog warren]

after you do Singer's Gamble and Knave-King's Sentence, do you lose out on the resource rooms from Eurydice and Sisyphus?

[ivory spire]

Nope

[prime mulch]

Does anyone know how to get || the epilogue ? I managed to get her back but idk how to get the invitations event to trigger||
@misty pollen theres a guide on steam, u need some specific dialogues

[misty pollen]

Gotcha. I guess it is a rng fest then. Thanks.

[analog warren]

neat, thanks

[ashen forge]

What do you get when giving nectar to bouldy?

[misty pollen]

Oh? I’ll try to look that up. Thanks.

[timid bison]

Question about story after Epiogue: ||do we ever get to visit the cottage again, as well as Greece? ||

[civic nebula]

without spoiling it, do I need to be careful who I give nectar/ambrosia to, i.e. is Zag gonna get locked into a relationship or something like that, or can I give everything to everyone?

[bleak lichen]

can give to everyone

there is no downsides

@ashen forge bouldy can give buffs to movespeed, dmg, hp, and gold earned, only small buffs. Best to prioritise character relationships first, unless you have a lot to spare

he may have buffs i didnt mention but those are the ones ive seen

[ivory spire]

Question about story after Epiogue: ||do we ever get to visit the cottage again, as well as Greece? ||
@timid bison unfortunately no.

[ashen latch]

Tbh Hades reverse would be dope

Zag free from the Styx’s magic has been on vacation and now has to fight his way down through a familiar yet different underworld

[ivory spire]

There is one problem with this.
Where does he go when he dies

[ashen latch]

The cottage and/or mount Olympus

I’d imagine the other gods have a point of resurrection like Hades and Zag seeing as they went with the “gods can’t die but you can get close” version

[timid bison]

@timid bison unfortunately no.
@ivory spire oh ☹️ I hope there is an expansion at some point that allows us to||, and perhaps another campaign in which we try to reach Olympus.||

[ivory spire]

||The cottage is highly requested, so maybe.
A content expansion would require SGG to make a lot more assets and it's less likely.||

[timid bison]

A campaign for reaching Olympus, introducing other gods such as Apollo and Hecate, sounds like an obvious path! I would actually pay a full price for such DLC

||Or introducing Demeter outside her winter persona.||

[heady wolf]

I'd like to see the gods that have aspects but aren't in the game (Hera/Hestia)

And meeting daedelus would be cool too

[ashen latch]

Tbh a standalone expansion would be cool. Maybe introduce a whole new boon set. Not just missing Olympians but also minor gods

Pan would be fun

Throw in some Dio flair

With a touch of wild and nature

[timid bison]

Hecate would be dope, she's got three faces and is the goddess of whitchcraft, imagine what SGG could do with that!

[ashen latch]

Tbh Zagreus would probably try and use her magic to teleport

[heady wolf]

I wouldn't blame him

[ashen latch]

Both his Dad and Thanatos have longer range

Gotta get with the big leagues

[heady wolf]

He's just gotta get the teleporter working in the admin chambers

[timid bison]

And I miss having Apollo on the game! He is my favourite god.

[ashen latch]

Tbh maybe Apollo is absent because this takes place during his exile

When he killed Python Gaea demanded he be banished to Tartarus, but as a compromise he goes into exile and leaves Olympus

Exiled Apollo spinoff?

[timid bison]

Yeah, I see a potential plot line to be taken there!

[ashen latch]

Tbh Achilles mentioned Zag isn’t nearly warlike enough to be the master of Stygius forever due to being a gentle soul

So I could see him maybe giving or loaning Apollo an infernal arm

Kid has all 6 original weapons of the Olympians

[timid bison]

And Apollo would kick the queer up a notch with so many lovers!

[ashen latch]

Tragedy simulator tbh

His lovers have like a notoriously short shelf life

I’m down for more romances though

[timid bison]

And all become inanimate objects

[ashen latch]

Tbh dead lovers as trinkets

[prime mulch]

zagreus literally become friends with ares
gentle soul

[ashen latch]

Counterpoint: everyone loves Zagreus

He’s the cool cousin that all the siblings want to meet for Christmas break

[prime mulch]

Counterpoint: everyone loves Zagreus
@ashen latch looks at theseus

[ivory spire]

Nobody likes Theseus

[ashen latch]

Theseus is a theater major. It’s all in the name of the show

[steep drift]

Theseus is clearly all kayfabe.

[ivory spire]

I don't know how he's still in Elysium after attempting to kidnap Persephone that one time

[ashen latch]

Tbh Elysium’s entry prerequisites was basically “die honorably dude” due to how Greek society was basically virtue ethics central

Being “good” relative to our standards doesn’t always line up with who got in there

[ivory spire]

Well then I'm glad Agamemnon isn't in Elysium

[ashen latch]

I find it hilarious that Hector is there

[prime mulch]

being in elysium dont require a virtue ethics check i guess

[marble frost]

what's "kayfabe" ?

[steep drift]

Kayfabe is the name for the "keeping up the facade/always being in character" aspect of professional wrestling.

[ashen latch]

Yeah, in his mind Zag is the heel and he is the face

Which makes for a pretty cool narrative honestly

[prime mulch]

thats just delusional though, he dont even believe zag is the prince and son of the queen

[ashen latch]

I mean that’s why a common head canon is that he’s acting it out, because Zag being pursued in Elysium is (initially) due to Hades putting a manhunt out for him

Theseus would have to be next level dumb if he didn’t know Zags true identity after his boss gave him the order

[steep drift]

but since he's in front of his home crowd...

[ashen latch]

^

Gotta put on a show for the people

[prime mulch]

i actually think he is that dumb but i guess we never know

[ashen latch]

I can only assume he at least has 3 good brain cells due to being an ex king

But Greek kings in the myths didn’t exactly have great track records so it’s a fair assumption

[steep drift]

And, to be fair, most of the smart ones (excepting Odysseus) were also liable to try stupid things like... cheating death twice... and then get themselves chained to a boulder when the gods caught up with them.

[tulip shuttle]

meg final (?) romance scene spoilers
||DAMN that was something??????? i think she actually used the whip in bed??||

[bleak lichen]

half the reason that anyone ended up tortured badly in greek mythology was because they gloated about their accomplishments & angered certain gods, it wasn't really the crimes they committed but how prideful they were

Helen of Troy almost screwed up telling Aphrodite to her face that she was equally beautiful, imagine if she had an excuse to put her in Tartarus for it...

[spare remnant]

It definitely is something @tulip shuttle

[tulip shuttle]

ngl i appreciated it

[vagrant cloak]

8(

[bold phoenix]

Hey folks. Could anyone please answer the question on plot progression in a non-spoilery way? I am kinda wondering if I have completed the game story by now, or if there are any parts of the plot left. (also [spolier]spoiler test[/spoiler])

[atomic forge]

||who is the narrator?||

[rocky dirge]

||who is the narrator?||
@atomic forge Have you purchased the poet's bust?

[atomic forge]

no

[rocky dirge]

@bold phoenix I assume you have seen the credits? There's an epilogue after that, which requires gifting lots of nectar to lots of gods

Amongst other things

[atomic forge]

I've seen it, but not in my playthrough yet

[rocky dirge]

So.... on youtube? You have looooot of story in front of you man, don't worry about it

[atomic forge]

ok, thanks

[bold phoenix]

This is embarassing. Is this now spoilers work ||123||?

(Okay, good)

@bold phoenix I assume you have seen the credits? There's an epilogue after that, which requires gifting lots of nectar to lots of gods
@rocky dirge Yeah, I've seen the credit roll, and ||arranged the party, formed all bonds including with mother, etc. The thing is mother and father mention on and off that the peace is only temporary, that granma knows the truth and will not be satisfied etc etc, so each time mom goes on a trip, I half-expect for something to happen... ||

[median ruin]

So

Does anybody else think it's hilarious that the Rail of Adamant is attributed to Hestia

Like, all the other gods consistently comment on what an evil weapon it is, the scariest of them all (except for Ares who in typical Ares fashion says "I can't wait until mortals can get their hands on that thing.)

Meanwhile, Hestia is the most peaceful, moral of the gods, everyone loves her, she doesn't get involved in familial squabbles or take sides, is there for everyone when they're having hard times, every Greek city has a temple to her because if they didn't it would be open season on smiting

Hestia having the Rail of Adamant is basically the final member of the trinity of metal-cute along with Doom-Isabelle and Aggretsuko

[spare remnant]

@bold phoenix if you’ve had a ||party||, you finished most of the story. There’s dialogue to see after that and bonds to forge with some people that were locked until after the ||party||. But there’s no revenge of ||Demeter|| if you expect that to happen.

[drifting panther]

look

if you manage to get Hestia angry

you must be prepared for what is to come

it is like the boiled down essence of the angry nonna

the empowered shot from the rail Aspect is actually just a slipper

[small ingot]

Everytime I enter the main hall the house contractor has an exclamation point on his head but nothing is new. Is it bugged? I'm in the end game and I've suspiciously been waiting for the 4th extreme measures to come up. Is it because I have the style work orders available and I'm jsut not purchasing them?

[drifting panther]

yeah

any work order available triggers the exclamation point

including the styles

[small ingot]

Oh gotcha thank you

[bold phoenix]

@bold phoenix if you’ve had a ||party||, you finished most of the story. There’s dialogue to see after that and bonds to forge with some people that were locked until after the ||party||. But there’s no revenge of ||Demeter|| if you expect that to happen.
@spare remnant Thanks. I don't "expect" that, and I am quite satisfied with the ending as it is, I was merely wondering.

[small ingot]

how do I get the touch of styx charon shop item? Have so many runs and have never seen it. Trying to finish the prophecy

[drifting citrus]

turn on stubborn defiance

[small ingot]

oh haha thank you

[ashen forge]

Just reached the epilogue but was distracted during it with sth else and wasn't able to pay full attention to it. ||what did persephone lie about to the gods besides the lie that poms keep people in the underworld? ||

[atomic forge]

||That she and Hades eloped and that Zag was trying to escape to visit the family on Olympus.||

||Technically they did elope, but the details were fudged, mostly to keep Demeter from freezing the whole damn world.||

I haven't got achilles to tell me about guan yu yet

sad

[ashen forge]

You can try killing yourself at the start of the run and keep talking to him

[bold tendon]

So uh

Does Hades ever NOT deny someone

[ashen forge]

@atomic forge thanks 👍

[bold tendon]

Even after ||Persephone comes back?||

[atomic forge]

@ashen forge seriously? i dont need to finish the whole thing?

Nope, cycling through the House advances story.

[ashen forge]

@atomic forge when you get guan yu, it will be even faster to do a suicide run if you need to get specific dialogue with someone

[bold tendon]

So what is next for me?

Since I ||Brought Persephone back||

Other than maxing out all relationships and doing prophecy things

[atomic forge]

That's pretty much it.

[ashen latch]

@bold tendon cycle through more dialogue and eventually you will get to the point where you can hand out invites

For the final epilogue

[bold tendon]

Oh alright.

You said I don't need to do runs to always unlock more dialogue?

[ashen latch]

You do

[bold tendon]

"Cycling through the house progresses story"

[ashen latch]

Like the way Hades is set up is that one character can only progress one bit of dialogue of one convo tree

So even though for example you are well on your way doing Meg’s relationship convo tree

You might not always proc it

Due to how she leaves the house and has convos with other people

To cycle it you either complete a run or die trying

[obtuse chasm]

Just got my 10th win!!! ||The ride down the styx is so beautiful!!!||

[bold tendon]

I maxed out Meg's relationship heart thingy

but yeah

And yes it is pupocalypse

[tulip nimbus]

how do I spoiler tag?

[fervent skiff]

Use the || symbol on both sides of the text you wish to spoiler

[tulip nimbus]

thanks!

[nocturne sandal]

I just noticed that everytime the Acorn blocks an attack it plays a small vocal sound from eurydice. It reminded me of transistor humming. I wonder if there are humming version of the songs

[fervent skiff]

The songs from Hades?

I would love to hear a hummed version of God of the dead lol

or ||The unseen ones||

Heavy metal humming intesifies

[tulip nimbus]

Just got my 10th win!!! ||The ride down the styx is so beautiful!!!||
@obtuse chasm || I think I got teary-eye every time I went up to Persephone's cottage and the last trip made me cry||

[trail imp]

Is there any way to switch between Thanatos' friendship path to relationship path after the bedroom scene?

[fervent skiff]

Nope

You have commited

[trail imp]

NOOOOO

[fervent skiff]

There is no turning back

[trail imp]

Just for bot knowing english idioms I'm doomed to Thanatos' friendzone forever

I wanna die

[fervent skiff]

Hey man you had your chance

[trail imp]

Man he's the only character im really into

[obtuse chasm]

Ooof 😭😭😭

He's so gorgeous.

[trail imp]

Being gay, i can relate to this relationship

[obtuse chasm]

I'm curious what his friend zone scene is like tho. I guess I can Google it.

Same. Bi dude here. 🤣

[rich dune]

"only character I'm really into"
laughs miserably in bisexual

[obtuse chasm]

Yas 😂😭

[rich dune]

it would be easier for me to list the characters in this game I would NOT spend tens of hours of playtime to woo

[obtuse chasm]

Zag and Than are just... 👀👀👀

[rich dune]

or have woo me, w/e

[spare remnant]

This game must be awful for bisexual peeps

[trail imp]

I'm curious what his friend zone scene is like tho. I guess I can Google it.
@obtuse chasm
||A lot of sexual tension, like they both want each other but prefer remaining single||

[rich dune]

it really is

[obtuse chasm]

@rich dune yeah..same. short list 😳

This game must be awful for bisexual peeps
@spare remnant it was designed to torture us I'm guessing

[spare remnant]

I mean, even as a straight male, there’s plenty of choices and different aesthetics to pick from

[obtuse chasm]

@obtuse chasm
||A lot of sexual tension, like they both want each other but prefer remaining single||
@trail imp yo.... Just. YOOOOO.

google time.

I mean, even as a straight male, there’s plenty of choices and different aesthetics to pick from
@spare remnant aphrodite...👀

[spare remnant]

Not really my type, actually

[trail imp]

I cannot see another female character other than meg I'd have liked to be in a relationship with tbh

[obtuse chasm]

Idk I'm really into meg and artemis myself. Just. Cute bad girls.

[spare remnant]

Much prefer ||Persephone|| or Artemis

[obtuse chasm]

Artemis comes off as a cute nerd

[tulip nimbus]

Dusa, lmao

haha

[obtuse chasm]

Hahaha

[spare remnant]

Not for in game relationships

[rich dune]

the only thing it's missing (so far, I'm very early in the story) is a plump/curvy girl and I am stubbornly headcanoning Dusa as being shaped like me when she had a body

[trail imp]

Hermes and Than for me tho

[obtuse chasm]

Brb tho I need to find the friendzone tension video now

[spare remnant]

I really respect SGG for giving so much representation

[rich dune]

I think the only characters I don't want to date are the ones I want to adopt or be adopted by

[obtuse chasm]

Hermes and Than for me tho
@trail imp zag, than, dionysus, ares... They can get it 🥵

[spare remnant]

For a lot of it, it’s just sticking to myths, but they could have easily straightwashed the game

[trail imp]

Brb tho I need to find the friendzone tension video now
@obtuse chasm
Same but i gotta get some food

[obtuse chasm]

I find nyx gorgeous beyond all reason. And chaos terrifies me 😳

[trail imp]

See you soon

[obtuse chasm]

Which means please yes

[spare remnant]

Nyx’s treatment of Dusa killed all attraction for me

[trail imp]

Im not there yet

Barely talking to dusa tbh

[spare remnant]

It’s worth talking to everybody every death

[rich dune]

Yep, that's what I do

[spare remnant]

And gifting nectar to everyone.

[rich dune]

do a run, run the house for anyone available for talk

[spare remnant]

Even ||Bouldy|| gets his nectar whenever possible

[obtuse chasm]

Understandably, no one on youtube has friend zoned thanatos

If anyone can find it plz tag me

Ah. I can't post about the thing I'm trying to osot about.

The scene with than and zag and Meg...

🙄

I had no idea that was a thing!

[spare remnant]

Yeah, the game basically implies ||they were a thing|| long before you started courting either of them

And you end up in a ||bi poly triad|| with them

[obtuse chasm]

And you end up in a ||bi poly triad|| with them
@spare remnant yup I got that prompt about ||blowing off steam|| but I haven't gotten the ||combo bedroom scene||

[trail imp]

Understandably, no one on youtube has friend zoned thanatos
@obtuse chasm
That just shows how miserable my situation is

[manic cave]

when your just about to get your fastest run by far but then ||dad says he doesnt want to fight anymore|| so your time doesn't count

[obtuse chasm]

@obtuse chasm
That just shows how miserable my situation is
@trail imp why? How? How did you do that by accident? Lol

[ashen latch]

Hades 2: But it’s just a game where Zag romances people and helps fix relationships

like he did with Pat and Achilles along with Eurydice and Orpheus

[obtuse chasm]

Is that not already hades 1? 😂

[spare remnant]

@manic cave at least that means you’re at ||credits and you’re getting to start the mid-game now.||

[manic cave]

wait ||credits|| are just mid game?

i guess it did seem like there is more story but im not sure where its going to go from here because zag already accomplished his goal

[fervent skiff]

I mean he ||gets a job||

So that's there

There is another ending to achieve after the credits

So you can still go for that

You also have a hidden pact that unlocks after credits

[manic cave]

i also just got the final extreme measure difficulty to

[fervent skiff]

Yeah that one

[manic cave]

I havent seen it yet but ive heard about what it does... sounds difficult

[fervent skiff]

The same as the other levels of the Extreme measures

If EM 1 affects the furies and EM 2 the Hydra

I think you can guess what ||EM 4 would affect||

I won't spoil what it changes though

[obtuse chasm]

My bro is playing on the extra difficult levels and... 🥵 It looks horrible. He said he doesn't wanna do the ||three stages of hades|| ever again lol

[trail imp]

@trail imp why? How? How did you do that by accident? Lol
@obtuse chasm I didn't understand the meaning of the phrases I had to choose from

not a native English speaker

[obtuse chasm]

Ohhhh! Yeah I understand that. Aww I'm so sorry 😭

[trail imp]

yeah at least the tension part is kinda nice

[obtuse chasm]

I bet.. 👀

Can't find it anywhere

[trail imp]

I might dm you some good screenshots

but yeah I would have liked to play the better part

[obtuse chasm]

I got the dialogue!!! Also please do @trail imp I'd appreciate it!

[timber geode]

Cutest thing with Zag just happened

fished up a Flameeater and for some reason he sang out "Flaaaameaaater!" like a dork

[ashen latch]

Zag is both super dorky but also super cool simultaneously

No wonder all of his cousins want to hang out with him so much

[obtuse chasm]

Zag is... Best boy.

He's so fun

[ashen latch]

I can only imagine how like all the second generation Olympians were chilling in his room with him during the feast

Athena, Ares, Artemis, Athena and Hermes can finally pester him

In person

[spare remnant]

Zag is second best boy

[trail imp]

I got the dialogue!!! Also please do @trail imp I'd appreciate it!
@obtuse chasm
I will try finding some, anyone else worth dating beside Thanatos? (I wish Charon was an option but I think not)

[timber geode]

Zag is indeed best boy

[obtuse chasm]

@obtuse chasm
I will try finding some, anyone else worth dating beside Thanatos? (I wish Charon was an option but I think not)
@trail imp only options for romance are ||than and Meg|| however you get a crush on ||dusa but get friend zoned. Still get stuff from it.||

[merry atlas]

Honestly I feel really close to Dusa over anyone at this point, I was pissed when|| Nyx fired her||

[spare remnant]

Nyx really overstepped her bounds