16gb ram, i5 8th gen, shouldn't be that heavy
#h1-story-discussion
grim loom
prime mulch
i have worse rig but works fine with for some reason
mellow glen
||Hades|| had a line for when I tried using ||Companion Mort|| against him
So what does he say when I try ||using other companions||?
upbeat willow
except Skelly and Sisyphus (you can use these companions as is against Hades)
prime mulch
so after the ending, some dialogue lines will allow ||companions in the final boss||
runic wadi
I have a question about the endgame, on that topic
mellow glen
If that's the case then ||the voicelines should be the same regardless of if I can use all of them against him right?||
runic wadi
|| Is Zagreus just...magically being killed in the 'post game' explained? or any plans to explain it in the future. ||
prime mulch
they say they dont have any plans for it after these bug fixes
upbeat willow
||Persephone has a line about it from memory||
grim loom
or are you using integrated graphics
Integrated. although UHD620 should be fine i think. the system ram usage caps at 1.7gb i think
hollow pecan
They did briefly said that || maybe because persephone is not there anymore so zag cant last that long ||
runic wadi
so they're done with Hades for the most part?
prime mulch
yeah
hollow pecan
Yep
runic wadi
|| Yeah, but it's a different 'death' it looks like, like he's being hit by magic, not just falling over like before ||
that is sad to hear, but understandable
prime mulch
only for the first run iirc, then shes said ||her powers keeps it fresh anyways|| @upbeat willow
runic wadi
that.
prime mulch
it got funny lines tho, aftr like a lot of runs, the line just like run out of ideas, as the lines often ends with a question mark @runic wadi
upbeat willow
Integrated. although UHD620 should be fine i think. the system ram usage caps at 1.7gb i think
hmm, interesting, worth asking about in #h1-tech-support for sure @grim loom
dark tendon
I burst out laughing so hard when Dionysus ||told zagreus to tell orpheus they are related somehow for a laugh||. Shows how much homework supergiant actually did!
grim loom
right thx, also I beat king and bull for the first time in 32 heat, this actually might be the run
prime mulch
good luck
upbeat willow
ooh Pog 🤞 this is the run
hollow pecan
Good luck out there
fast idol
yoo does anyone know the reason why Thanatos' companion is a mouse?
runic wadi
I so badly hope for DLC for this game actually, although that's a very selfish thing to say. This was my first real dive into roguelikes and supergiant games as a whole and it's just so good
I want more
fast idol
They said they'll take a break first and think about where they'll go next, either with Hades or a new game
runic wadi
This is their best received game so far, right?
hollow pecan
Well seeing Supergiant's track record, chances of dlc is prob very low
But well heres to hoping
prime mulch
isnt bastion got a dlc
hollow pecan
Does it? I never really played bastion
fast idol
idk
Transistor and Pyre were pretty much full games without the need of expansions
prime mulch
inb4 pvp
fast idol
what did it get for dlc?
fast idol
oh right yeah
dark tendon
Personally I never actually played bastion, it just didn't look or sound like my kind of game.
fast idol
that's what I thought before I played it lmao
dark tendon
The main reason I decided to try hades is because I am (obviously) a rather large fan of greek mythology
steep drift
so, personally: I didn't get into Bastion much either. (And love Hades by comparison)
grim loom
I
steep drift
Kept falling off the edge in Bastion so... 😉
upbeat willow
I'm tempted to go through Bastion, Transistor and Pyre again just to see how they compare to Hades now 1.0 is here :3
hollow pecan
am fighting ||EM4 hades|| on 10 frames
Big oof
grim loom
I regularly play transistor
steep drift
How is Pyre, btw? I sort of avoided it because Transistor was nice and comfy with the Turn() system
and Pyre sounded kinda stressful
grim loom
believe me, transistor is by no means any less than hades
it is
one of the few games that made me cry
steep drift
Yeah, me too, with Transistor. All the emotions.
formal thistle
I'm telling y'all, the reason || Zag dies every time is cause of the water you have to drink every run in the temple of styx. It looks rancid as hell lmao. ||
formal thistle
right?
everyone in game thinks it's magic caused but really the explanation is so simple lol
grim loom
YES
tired hemlock
They don't teach hygeine in the underworld
hollow pecan
|| Dad's long con ||
|| Zagreus, the great son of Hades, dies from fountain poisoning ||
hollow pecan
Oops
grim loom
and also kill me, the victory screenshot didn't save for reasons only fates know
hollow pecan
Feelsbad
upbeat willow
congrats though 
there's always the admin chamber for a screenshot, though it's not quite the same
formal thistle
artemis support fire and call, dionysus cast and dash (unnecessary), zeus attack and special (unnecessary). Also delta chamber and ricochet. I think I had other stuff too but those were the things that mattered rofl. Hades fell soooo fast
very satisfying when everything goes perfectly
spring scaffold
Question about the Friendly Wager prophecy: I had that prophecy, beat Charon in two successive runs, didn't get it. Is there another condition to this? Do I need to beat Charon twice in the same run?
shut estuary
guys, if i beat the game more times as "Streak" mode, will i unlock something or is just a record?
magic sage
For my last clear before credits I should run a weapon I struggle with, right?
atomic forge
They don't teach hygeine in the underworld
@tired hemlock tbf there are literally no bathrooms in the house, so yeah
hardy spruce
Are there any repercussions to romancing both possible candidates as a lover?
steep drift
No
hardy spruce
Alrighty
oblique crater
Wooo, finally reached the credits
ashen forge
Is patroclus black or is it the lighting? How did people mistake patroclus for achilles in the trojan war lol
oak furnace
there's something call armor
ashen forge
Well, you probably know what greek armour looked like
To be clear, i don't think it's a problem, just found it funny
bold niche
maybe they didn't have full description.. just "a guy in armor which looked like this"
drifting panther
ashen forge
Achilles' armour is usually depicted as showing a lot of skin but obviously that could be different in the hades universe
Just a showerthought i guess
oak furnace
Hades take things loosely from the Greek Mythology, ||Persephone isn't the daughter of Zeus and Demeter in this game||
ashen forge
Yeah, that's also true
But they did say in the game that people mistook patroclus for achilles, patroclus probably wore heavier armour then
oak furnace
I assume they went full armor in the war, helmet included
bold niche
who knows.. well, now they wear similar clothing
oak furnace
I want to make a spear joke but that would be too much
stone junco
Can anyone gimme a little help? I unlock this badge after talking to Charon with his keepsake. Can i unlock this with all other ones? I thought these things were really cool.
https://prnt.sc/ush74w
(If this is the wrong channel to ask this, tell me please, i'm new in this discord and i think this ask is a little spoiler)
oak furnace
yes, they're unlocked when you reach max hearts with the respective person
stone junco
Oh, thank you very much
halcyon raptor
what do those icons on the keepsakes do?
ashen forge
How do you unlock the epilogue?
halcyon raptor
beat the games 10 times
stone junco
I thinks is only visual, idk
what do those icons on the keepsakes do?
@halcyon raptor
halcyon raptor
@stone junco oh it's just to show that you've maxed out your friendship with them?
halcyon raptor
like big story bits after getting the ending?
oak furnace
there's an ||epilogue||, check out the Steam guides on how to unlock it
halcyon raptor
oooh really, cool
oak furnace
it only happens after credits roll and there are several requirements in order to trigger it
spare remnant
It involves building relationships with various characters.
ashen forge
Epilogue spoilers: ||do i need to give nectars to all the gods a lot of times?||
spare remnant
You need to ||max relationship with 6 of them||, but also have specific dialogue with ||Zeus, Demeter, and Persephone||.
ashen forge
@spare remnant thanks 👍
spare remnant
Note that ||maxing relationships with the Olympians that give you boons|| requires your to do ||favors / challenges for them||
||Once you reach their locked heart||
lament hill
Oaky, after 75 hours and 102 runs I || reunited family ||! And yet I want to play more 😛 I have some relationships to complete and 32 heat is killing me
magic sage
||do you get ambrosia back?||
oak furnace
||you can if you choose to, you monster||
supple dagger
@lament hill the 32 Heat challenge was fun. ^^
I should make a second attempt at it, with EM4 unlocked.
magic sage
I haven't got anyone to that level yet @oak furnace
normal kiln
you only have the option ||to get ambrosia back with Dusa iirc||
||everyone else just drinks it i guess||
ebon rose
Just noticed the painting of Cerberus has Zagreus there as a baby
wicked lotus
Where's Hecte tho ? Wasn't she with hades and everything ?
steep drift
Not all the Greek gods turn up in the game.
And Hecate is one of the "missing" ones.
(See also the fact that Hera, Apollo and others aren't around to give you boons either)
wicked lotus
Aww she would be a fun as assistant of Nyx
Yeah those peeps are busy.. Apollo does shows up at end of each run tho 
steep drift
I choose to believe that's Helios [and that it's the ||poisonous Satyrs|| with the Apollo links, given his other domains]
wicked lotus
Just noticed the painting of Cerberus has Zagreus there as a baby
aww, now I know what I have to save money for
Alright what stuff we supposed to redact ?
drifting citrus
any 1.0 type stuff
so the main storyline after first clear to credits and epilogue
steep drift
I probably don't need to redact Satyrs
but yeah anything after a full clear
(I'm used to being in the New Players chat, where I would)
wicked lotus
Yeah I haven't reached the epilogue yet either.. getting story time from pops and mom
Understable thanks
surreal comet
Hey I have a question everyone : so I just saw the epilogue I think, since || mother came back with us || but I feel like it's not the end (|| what about the rest of Olympus, who ignore a lot of things ? Plus I still have question marks in my codex ||). So do you know if there is more to come in the story ?
wicked lotus
Btw I m kinda sad that Hades is emotionally abusive and everything.. cause he's known for not having a temper and good character
oak furnace
@surreal comet did you see the ||epilogue||?
there's some more interactions and 1 extra scene after credits roll
wicked lotus
Dude please say epilogue instead of Finished.. it's confusing ughh.. I got a spolier just now well I was suspecting that. Others might not
hardy girder
I have 4 ambrosia
I feel bad for not just giving it all to dusa
gonna need to unlock the other plushies first
wicked lotus
I have 7 lol and full hearts with Cerberus good boii
hardy girder
uhh, there is no reward for completing the romance lines right
except, well, the best kind of reward
supple dagger
Depends on which way you go with some of them.
surreal comet
@oak furnace hmm idk I saw the scene where (Warning spoiler for the epilogue) || we came back with mother on the Styx ||
wicked lotus
Like I'd know lol Haven't completed any except Cerberus
surreal comet
@wicked lotus Sry I thought I was explicit enough...
hardy girder
well dusa will have to wait .-. need to collect the plushies first
wicked lotus
I love 3 headed boi
oak furnace
yeah there's an ||extra scene|| after that, just keep playing. you need to ||max out your relationships with 6 Gods||, see the Steam Guides section for more details
supple dagger
Let's hope I can get 100 Nectar in the next few runs because Chaos decided "no, I won't be increasing the darkness and gemstones you collect. Too bad!"
oak furnace
Chaos is just being Chaos
surreal comet
@oak furnace great, thx :)
wicked lotus
@surreal comet apologies accepted.. I m kinda big mythology geek so plus I've been thinking about that door on the other side of the house so... It was much suspected.. I m happy for you for reaching the epilogue tho..
well dusa will have to wait .-. need to collect the plushies first
Oo there's Plushies in the game.. why this game literally has everything ❤️
I m kinda sad that Hades is emotionally abusive and everything.. cause he's known for not having a temper and good character
ebon rose
"I'm kinda sad that Hades is emotionally abusive"
"I'm kinda big mythology geek"
Well. This is... awkward
wicked lotus
Well he's kinda the only least messed up guy in pantheon
ebon rose
It's like saying you're a huge Nirvana fan but thinking Smells Like Teen Spirit was made by Blink-182
steep drift
I mean, Wolf is right: the ancient Greeks tended to think of Hades as a "harsh but fair" type, at least compared to the rest of them (Athena probably excepted).
Not a nice guy, but not a lunatic like Ares, for example.
wicked lotus
He's well known for not having a temper in mythology too he's actually a good guy.. like he let Orpheus go.. hercules take Cerberus on condition to not hurt.. him ?
Not to mention he literally named his doggo Spot..?
Cerberus means Spotted
ebon rose
Yeah, and remember that time he... uh... you know, the whole Persephone thing
Totally a chill guy, right?
wicked lotus
That part is debatable cause it has multiple versions.. one of them you see in main game story line
steep drift
You mean the myth that has multiple versions, and where the earliest variants suggest that that was at least partly a ruse to get her away from Demeter who disapproved?
ebon rose
None of the versions in mythology are as sugarcoated as the game's version
steep drift
(And again, in comparison to the rest of them - especially his brothers)
lament hill
@supple dagger Do you remember what pact setting did you use?
wicked lotus
Yup Actually I've never heard Demeter approved in any of them
oak furnace
Zagreus is just a beta version of Dionysus or they could be the same character, that's why he keeps referring to you as Bro
ebon rose
I'm just pointing out that it's kind of ridiculous to be sad that Hades is harsh, when he's known for being harsh in mythology. It's impossible to portray the gods in mythology accurately without them being abusive, manipulative, creepy, and selfish
wicked lotus
(And again, in comparison to the rest of them - especially his brothers)
Totally other's are criminals.. hades was famous for never leaving underworld and adopted a 3 headed doggo..
Zagreus is just a beta version of Dionysus or they could be the same character, that's why he keeps referring to you as Bro
Just His Cousins Swag Bro ?
I'm just pointing out that it's kind of ridiculous to be sad that Hades is harsh, when he's known for being harsh in mythology. It's impossible to portray the gods in mythology accurately without them being abusive, manipulative, creepy, and selfish
I agree to your point.. I m Just saying it's like he's being unfair at times..
Harsh I can understand emotionally abusive just feels too much ya know..
No offense I understand how harsh myths are
ebon rose
Hades is one of the gods feared and hated the most by morals... and this guy's "sad" that Hades is abusive
I mean even in mythology he was well known for being cold, and all of his subordinates had to follow his rules. People trying to leave is his biggest trigger, basically
Like, Zagreus would have no reason to leave of Hades had been nice
The existence of Persephone was only the straw that broke the camel's back in this game
wicked lotus
Actually people feared Persephone More than Hades just so you know.. yup queen took his job very seriously..not even kidding
ebon rose
I mean geez, you must really hate playing the game if literally every line of dialogue from Hades makes you sad
wicked lotus
Lol calm down i m not obsessed with it...like it's alright they portrayed him that way it's their version I m cool with it.. I love the game beyond measure..
ebon rose
The game could have had Hades trick/force Persephone to be bound to his realm forever... After kidnapping her. But maybe you don't see that as abusive 😆
Why is it that when people's statements are criticized, their reaction is to tell people to calm down?
That really just makes you look like you're the one who's in distress over it
wicked lotus
I m just saying it's alright nothing else and yes I try to avoid conflicts.. so what I meant by Calm down means it's okay I agree with you and I'm alright with game version of hades too..
Idt there's a need for criticising opinion since neither of us knows the real hades
shut estuary
hi guys, a question, if i beat the game more times as a "streak" mode, will i unlock something or there is no reward if i continue to beat it or not?
wicked lotus
I really don't know I have only like 3 streak..
fair light
Hey, re: streaking victories, ||it's not connected to any unlocks -- just for your personal interest||!
wicked lotus
Is this a story spolier Greg ?
shut estuary
Hey, re: streaking victories, ||it's not connected to any unlocks -- just for your personal interest||!
@fair light thx Greg! 🙂
crimson temple
I've heard dialogue relating to having a long streak... and breaking it.
shut estuary
I've heard dialogue relating to having a long streak... and breaking it.
@crimson temple noooo but how many?
normal kiln
oh man
now i need to get a streak so i can hear the dialogue
but using too much heat is required by law
fair light
Wolf Detective, nope, not a story spoiler.
normal kiln
it’s a moral dilemma
shut estuary
I have two for now
crimson temple
I think it started around five consecutive victories, and I lost my streak after six or seven.
shut estuary
using 16 heats for the statue is illegal, more for the third statue....i will never earn that XD
normal kiln
must’ve missed it ‘cause rng
crimson temple
It could have been added with 1.0.
shut estuary
I think it started around five consecutive victories, and I lost my streak after six or seven.
@crimson temple ok thx! i need just 2 victories for the true ending...so it's a dilemma XD
crimson temple
And when in doubt, always blame RNG
normal kiln
agree lol
wicked lotus
RnG ?
normal kiln
random number generator
crimson temple
By now, I've built up a longer streak, because some time after the inclusion of the true ending, I decided to do only no heat runs to make progress as fast as possible.
In case of game dialogue, RNG means it's random which dialogue the game chooses if several conditions happen to be met at the same time.
Since you typically get one unlocked line per run, it can take hours of playing until getting something you would expect earlier if unlucky.
wicked lotus
Ahh who gives this streak Dialogue tho ?
crimson temple
I got some from Poseidon and Hermes.
Perhaps there are more gods that have a say, but I'm not certain.
wicked lotus
Understandable
crimson temple
Hermes also commented when I lost my previous streak.
wicked lotus
Hermes commented when I was ahead of my previous time limit..
I was oh how I m quick
crimson temple
He's a loquacious character, that's for certain.
normal kiln
i keep saying this but i can’t get over how hermes comments when you turn on the speedrun timer, comments again when you turn it off, then again with new dialogue if you turn it on again after having it off for a bit
like, if you want an example of how much effort they put into the dialogue of this game, that’s as good as any
rocky dirge
i keep saying this but i can’t get over how hermes comments when you turn on the speedrun timer, comments again when you turn it off, then again with new dialogue if you turn it on again after having it off for a bit
@normal kiln This also happens if you turn Extreme Measures on and off... for each boss, I think
timber geode
So I got 5 Titan Blood put into the shield and when does || Chaos tell me the thing to give me the hidden aspect? Do I need to be holding the shield at the time or do I just need to talk to them more? ||
drifting citrus
you ||don't need to have the shield on you, you just need to get lucky that they'll tell you the convo||
timber geode
oof
drifting citrus
yeah, there's a lot of things like that in the game that relies on getting good rng, unfortunately
doesn't help if you also have other story events queued up from questline stuff
rocky dirge
I think you need to have talked to Chaos using his aspect shield and have him comment at least once
After that the activation phrase can come at any time
mental prawn
when talking about spoilers, do we have to have ||this shade over it?||
rough pilot
yes
mental prawn
ok
so, apparently, i heard your supposed to ||meet patroclus at the surface||
where is he
shadow dune
Hes in ||elysium behind the ! Door||
south ravine
Can you actually fix your family problems after 10th win?
shut estuary
Can you actually fix your family problems after 10th win?
@south ravine Why you want to spoiler that to yourself XD , play the game 😉
quaint wadi
how many|||| badges in hades's room? ||
south ravine
Only thing I want to know, does it require heat and if it does, I will never get it 🙂
rocky dirge
It doesnt require heat, no. Just time, nectar, and lots of RNG
south ravine
good 
rocky dirge
Dont be scared of heat, though! If you're good enough to see the credits, you're good enough to turn on the heat a little and go from there
Extreme Measures is recommended, just for the extra dialogue if nothing else
south ravine
I dont mind heat, I want to go for 20 with most weapons, I just dont want to make it hell.
Like 32 and more heat.
and locking story behind is not fun for me, like Dead cells 🙂
wicked lotus
like, if you want an example of how much effort they put into the dialogue of this game, that’s as good as any
Couldn't have said it better myself pal..
and locking story behind is not fun for me, like Dead cells 🙂
Dead cells had a story ? Lol it was very vague that's for sure
ivory spire
To get the true ending in Dead Cells you need to beat it with 5 boss cores on
at least here the ending isn't locked behind 32 heat
shut estuary
Only thing I want to know, does it require heat and if it does, I will never get it 🙂
@south ravine You will 🙂 , in the begging i started the game and i wa want to unlock just lore and buy stuff, so i didn't focus to the boons ecc..., i did like 40/45 escape attemps without victory, AFTER that i started to focus more and now i have 8 victory, when you find out what to looking for and what you upgrade, you will go more...more easly than now 🙂
south ravine
wut 
40-45 without victory
rocky dirge
those dont count!
south ravine
my first 3 tries I lost to magera after that it became a bit easier
ivory spire
Well if I have to count wins since redacted showed up it's like 5
Or if I count only 1.0 it's 1 
normal kiln
wut
honestly this isn’t that uncommon
rocky dirge
Took me 21 tries to get a W, but then I rattled 16 in a row somehow
The I lost with shield hidden aspect 😦
shut estuary
wut
@south ravine yes ahahah, because at a certain point i wa want so bad to finish the game with the first gloves
south ravine
Guess I'm not that bad 🙂
shut estuary
and i didn't know about the resurrection perks
normal kiln
hidden shield is amazing
split kelp
With what?
normal kiln
certainly takes some getting used to tho
shut estuary
so i was always have max 2 chances of resurrections, and really bad boons
split kelp
Beowulf is an odd one and I don't really know how to handle it. Special smorc works pretty well when you get the charge-up hammer, beyond that... no idea.
normal kiln
i haven’t really done much special stuff with it, i mostly focus on cast based builds
sour zealot
hey, what exactly do forged bonds do, other than give you a sweet icon next to keepsakes? and what does giving nectar to gods do, after the first one?
normal kiln
had a decent amount of success with Trippy Flare, and the damage there can be ridiculous but these days I’d recommend Passion Flare
split kelp
Bonds do nothing aside from letting you know the person likes you and the icon. Nectar generally doesn't do much after the first, there's six exceptions though where you get a significant reward afterwards.
shut estuary
and when i realized how to really fight, i started to gain victory after victory, weapons after weapons XD, for example the first victory with the first gloves took me 63 minutes, the second time with the gloves (the hidden gloves) took me 25 minutes XD
normal kiln
it’s just about getting into the rhythm of load>cast>collect>repeat, supplemented by specials and attacks where required
and stack cast like, as much as you can
split kelp
So Aphro it is on the Beowulf. Will try that.
shut estuary
oh sorry i made a mistake, the first victory was at the 25th
normal kiln
i cannot stress that enough
actively seek out chaos gates for more bloodstones
reroll chaos boons if you don’t get bloodstones or extra cast damage
south ravine
I got my victory on 10th try with bow
normal kiln
and it’s pretty unlikely that putting poms anywhere but on passion flare is worth it
unless you’re going special build ofc
but i’m not the person to ask about that
heavy warren
Hey for Sisyphus - ||I've spoken to him, Bouldy, Meg, Than, Achilles, and Nyx who told me to be discerning in the staff room but I still can't find Sisyphus's document. What am I missing? I have to be really close||
split kelp
You need to trigger certain conversations from ||Hades and Megeara|| about them ||chilling out on his punishment||, at some point afterwards ||Nyx|| will tell you where in the ||admin room|| to find the contract.
Also why am I spoilertagging that, this is the spoiler channel.
hushed lotus
Question about unlocking the ||crimson rail's final form.|| I have already ||spent more than 5 points on it and JUST unlocked guan yu's spear. Do I need to invest 5 MORE points, or do the ones I already spent count?||
split kelp
Nono, the ones you spent count.
hushed lotus
Do I need to actually ||spend points on guan yu, or just unlock it?||
split kelp
As far as I know (last status Nighty Night update) you don't need to spend any points on GY. Back then I got Sword 4 without having put a single blood into GY.
They might have changed it in the meantime, I don't know for sure. To be safe just put three blood in if you have them spare.
hushed lotus
Thanks.
south ravine
no need to put blood in GY, you just need it unlocked for other 4th aspect to show up
normal kiln
no need to ever put blood in GY, just don’t get hit
eternal breach
Did Zag just die to ||pricking himself on spines on a plant in Perse's garden I love that||
He's a princess
atomic forge
so which character would've ||drawn the painting of cerb/hades/persephone/zag||
pliant hinge
does anyone know what 7:48 references for the sundial?
elfin parcel
eeee i finished the game today
and i had this boon from athena that forms a permenant barrier around zag. and it carried over to the credits. so for the entire scene zag just had this giant golden circle around him
rocky dirge
Paintings are anachronistic, so let's just say it was Da Vinci from the future
lunar kiln
my money's on dusa
with how good she is with a feather duster she's gotta be excellent with a ||paint brush|| too
i mean it's mostly the same wrist movements and such
or snake movements in her case
pliant hinge
hair movements?
shut shale
oh wow. It's in the Blood sounds amazing in context
shut shale
the visuals are great too, but it's the confluence of lyrics and plot culmination that hits exceptionally hard
wicked lotus
Especially that !
Haven't gotten the true ending yet..
Or a single plushie wherever they are
lunar kiln
who cried when the ending song played bc i actually did
i have waited nearly 2 years for this moment
wicked lotus
Hey Achilles I m starting to read song of Achilles these days..
wicked lotus
i have waited nearly 2 years for this moment
I m happy for you bruh..
Damn, my heart broke after encountering ||Persephone ||
||Those Lavenders in her hair not to mention her hairstyle is same as Zag||
Supergiant games always been great with music I saw that in Transistor
peak locust
so what do i do w ambrosia
lunar kiln
yknow i've been thinking, as someone who's been playing the game since the beginning of EA i got to see the worst hades (the god) has to offer over 2 years of conversations, now that the true ending exists ||some of these conversations either never happen or play differently depending on whether you complete the ending or not||
wicked lotus
so what do i do w ambrosia
I gave it all to cerbie lol I got good boi bond sticker
peak locust
so its sth i get to gift after nectar?
shut shale
maxing out companions or relationships after nectar
wicked lotus
Yup when people get bored with nector they get demanding and you have to up your game
timber geode
I just managed to beat the main story of the game
|| That "In the Blood" song was so good 
||
stiff ridge
cant i use megs buddy for hades fight?
pliant hinge
||ah, the moment Cerberus runs you over|| during Hades EM4
woven steppe
Guys, Charon is now my friend (all the hearts) what do i get for it? i didn't notice anything
pliant hinge
you don't... really get anythiung
your bond is forged,
meaning you lads are besties now
sort of
woven steppe
oh, so i threw away lots of precious items...
pliant hinge
eh, it's worth it tbh
tight wigeon
No worries, there will be time to earn plenty more
woven steppe
i thought i could get like... a discount LOL
pliant hinge
so uh
tight wigeon
Oh, there is a way to get a discount
stiff ridge
cant i use megs buddy for hades fight?
@stiff ridge qupoting before it gets lost uwu
woven steppe
i cant beat HADES tho, just the first part of the fight, i used to fight with the lance but the caestus are also pretty good
tight wigeon
@stiff ridge ||yes you can, but not at first||
stiff ridge
ok thats enough for me, i try leveling it up and progressing her story
waifu
thank you ❤️
wraith moth
yes
sly tulip
Really? Huh...
Well, at least I know I've made some sort of improvement. When I started, the sword was probably the weapon I could get the shortest run with, now I Just beat the Elysium 😌
Took me 12 tries, after I made a new save... Now I just need to beat the boss without losing death defiances, and then learn to beat the final boss 😂 ... 😓
pastel spear
nice man
timber geode
You know after beating the || main story and seeing the more caring side of Hades, it really makes me enjoy him even more ||
void agate
are you only able to complete skelly's favour|| after getting the credits?||
timber geode
From what I did, you just need to || Upgrade the normal Aspect for the sword to 5, then spam Q next to him over and over until he dies ||
void agate
did not work for me
timber geode
Did you give him all the gifts before hand?
vale glacier
how do you gift ambrosia i have like 30 of them?
have never seen an option to gift one
deft vale
I've caught 137 fish over 75 attempts. Still haven't seen a very rare one...
timber geode
|| You have to gift people the Nectar until you can do a favor for them or unlock a certain dialogue that allows that favor to be fulfilled...then after it's done, you talk to them, then can start giving Ambrosia to them ||
deft vale
Do I need legendary buff from Poseidon for that?
timber geode
Well I'm having a similar issue with Thantos and Nyx
gave them gifts but can't activate their favor
vale glacier
i have quite a few maxed out hearts but 0 favors
couldnt even get guan yu to trigger (or whatever it was called)
timber geode
I got that to trigger
wraith frost
the postgame ||ending death messages are so lol||
"you ||step on a hoe. it hits u. u die||"
copper saffron
the one with ||struck by a chariot|| killed me
proud holly
@lethal karma , seeing speedrunner's and experienced players making their way to the end in the first escape, is there any consideration for a future story update/Easter egg that rewards that kind of gameplay?
eternal breach
I ||beat em4 Hades in a climactic battle where i almost died|| and then i go and step on a banana peel
candid bough
Does the game get harder after the ending when ||Persephone comes back|| or am I just having a REALLY rough few days lol
spare remnant
Difficulty stays the same ||unless you alter the pact of punishment||
chilly robin
How do you use the spoiler tag?
spare remnant
|| on both sides of what you’re saying. Or highlight the text and say “mark as spoiler”
chilly robin
||testing|| thanks @spare remnant
sullen vortex
what happens if I didnt give skelly the ambierosa yet, so what happens if ||i lay him to rest with the max zagreus blade||?
candid bough
Yeah haven't been playing with ||PoP|| so I'm probably just playing really off right now
Re Skelly: ||Skelly was pranking you, it won't kill him||
sly tulip
Only took me 13 runs to finish the prophecy with Athena 😂
Does somebody know how much base hp the bosses has? 🤔
weary loom
Just got the credits, what a game 
sly tulip
Can somebody recommend me what to spend titan blood on? I'm still struggling with the third boss, and I haven't even beaten the last boss yet...
shut estuary
where i can see how many fish i caught in total?
weary loom
@sly tulip this might shed some light on your hp question https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/ew31hf/final_bosses_hp_health/ffzoj8a/
at least for ||hades||
shut estuary
Can somebody recommend me what to spend titan blood on? I'm still struggling with the third boss, and I haven't even beaten the last boss yet...
@sly tulip easy: gloves or shield, best way ever...for me XD
sly tulip
Well, I did like the fists weapon... I got through Elysium with my first try with them 🤔
Though, it was with deflect...
shut estuary
guys i read a guy spoke about fishes "i caught 130 fishes in 70 attempts" but where can i see the number?
steep drift
The number of fishes you caught is shown in the aquarium you can buy for the lounge
I don't think attempts is shown anywhere
shut estuary
o.o wow thank you i forgot the aquarium XD
steep drift
unless they meant "escape attempts" in which case, the scrying pool 😉
shut estuary
yes in the "working room" near Achilles, you can see it there, a lot of statistics XD
steep drift
right, but the scrying pool is cheaper and you unlock it earlier so... :p
shut estuary
the only defect of this game is that there are A LOT of statistics but NOT the total play time, just every play time of every escape attempts 😦
right, but the scrying pool is cheaper and you unlock it earlier so... :p
@steep drift you are right XD
i'm playing on Switch and i had to wait like 10 days for to know the total play time XD
sly tulip
I'd love it, if there was a way to make the game easier, way too much trouble, if you just want to see the story...
steep drift
Erm, there is? That's what god mode is.
sly tulip
Tried that. It literally did nothing to help me through...
steep drift
You know it "gets stronger" every time you die with it on, right?
Starts at a 20% damage reduction, increases by 2% each death, to a maximum of 80%.
sly tulip
And yet the final boss still beat the me easily, and that was before the chambers before the boss got even harder...
steep drift
So, how many attempts did you try with god mode on?
sly tulip
Idk. Was on an old save. Just started over recently
steep drift
Bearing in mind that at least some of the story requires time to develop and repeated deaths.
sly tulip
But I use 1-3 death defiance against the third boss, and I can use up to 2 of them against the chambers before the last boss. Do the math...
It's like the chambers each has a boss in their own -_-
steep drift
I mean, I agree with you, those final chambers have killed several of my runs.
but keeping god mode on should eventually scale your damage reduction to a level where the difficulty lets you win
sly tulip
And I took the ones, that I assume was supposed to be the easiest... The doorways with no skull marking on them, they're the "easy" ones, right?
steep drift
They're the ones with no miniboss
shut estuary
best way to farm diamonds? i have 4 now but i need it more...you know...every songs, the upgrades, and to think to beat the game and i can only have 1...instead the others one by hydra ecc..
steep drift
I personally find the miniboss chambers in the final zone easier than the non-miniboss ones.
As there's basically 1 big target rather than lots.
sly tulip
Beat the final boss, and increase difficulty, I think that's the only way to get new diamonds... Besides buying from the merchant
Oh... Hmm, maybe I should try one of those, then
shut estuary
my god....so slow
steep drift
Or do Prophecies which give you diamond rewards
lime wren
^ once you start maxing our relationships you can trade your nectar for diamonds
Yeah a ton of prophecies give diamonds as well, usually 3 to 5
shut estuary
^ once you start maxing our relationships you can trade your nectar for diamonds
@lime wren great! with everybody right?
sly tulip
I don't really care about the diamonds... I just want to finish the story line :c
shut estuary
Or do Prophecies which give you diamond rewards
@steep drift yes i know
thanks guys!
weary loom
Here is what I found about the boss HP
Tartarus boss HPs:
||Megaera: 4400
Alecto: 4600
Tisiphone: 5200||
Asphodel boss HP:
||Hydra: 6000 (not counting bonus heads, probably quite a bit higher)||
Elysium boss HPs:
||Theseus: 9000
Asterius: 14000||
Styx boss HP:
||Hades: 17000 (for each phase)||
lime wren
If you’re using Dark Foresight you can unequip it to get more Nectar rooms for trade
shut estuary
I don't really care about the diamonds... I just want to finish the story line :c
@sly tulip lol, i need just one more time for finish the story...but the game has so many cool things...so much stuff
sly tulip
Would be lovely if I could cut their hp by 90%...
lime wren
Make sure to check the Wretched Broker after each run too cause he can offer diamond trades
Though some are a net loss
sly tulip
The final boss, does that mean in total, or in ||each phase||?
weary loom
in total afaik
sly tulip
Okay...
steep drift
That's fascinating, since I think ||Tisiphone is the fury I find easiest, yet she has the most HP||
sly tulip
I think Meg is the easiest. But, I've stumbled into her the most
shut estuary
Make sure to check the Wretched Broker after each run too cause he can offer diamond trades
@lime wren yea i know, lot of money and so many runs to do XD
wide wigeon
Does anyone know if there a bug with receiving Athena's Aid? It's the last one I need for the prophecy and I haven't seen it in 44 runs.
steep drift
I think there's a lot of RNG in that.
sly tulip
Took me 13 runs to get the trap dmg reduction from Athena. So probably just rng
steep drift
I still have Poseidon's prophecy to complete, and I just never seem to get the last one I need (despite having the prereq)
lime wren
Don’t pick up another Call, it seems to avoid giving you slot-trades very often
steep drift
and I've had that left uncompleted for something like 30 hours after I finished the others
wide wigeon
I got his not too long ago. I think I also just run into Athena less often for some reason.
sly tulip
I really like the deflect Athena usually gives me, but what prophecy should I go for next? Zeus? More dps might help out with the third boss...
wide wigeon
Oh wow
steep drift
I even get Poseidon a lot!
wide wigeon
I like DOTs for the third boss.
sly tulip
... DOTs??
wide wigeon
Damage Over Time
sly tulip
Oh.. The drunk one?
lime wren
Doom, Arrows, and Backstab bonus are the best counters for the third boss
sly tulip
And doom?
lime wren
Don’t bother with Hangover unless you’re completely building around it, which is difficult
sly tulip
I just take whatever I find...
lime wren
it’s, very underwhelming
wide wigeon
I've had some pretty decent hangover runs, but I generally only get it if I have absolutely no curses, or it's on my attack.
sly tulip
And so far I really like Athena. Deflect ftw
steep drift
Well, Hangover + Exagryph can be worth it, regardless I think, given the ease of stacking.
lilac ruin
idk why but ||lernie|| is kinda perfect
lime wren
that goes for any weapon that isn’t Aegis or Coronacht
the others can stack it fine; but even then without multiple dio upgrades it’s sad damage
Compared to pretty much anything else
upbeat willow
Lernie is perfect in everyway except for being a meanie to zag
wide wigeon
I'm doing my first timed run (while still focusing on collecting resources/prophecies) and currently paused as I consider Zeus or Athena. Deflect would be nice to have on Exagryph.
sly tulip
Which one was called Coronacht again? Aegis was the shield, right?
steep drift
Bow
lime wren
Bow
sly tulip
Okay
wide wigeon
Yeah, Aegis is the shield.
Wow. Remember way back when (2 minutes ago) when I was asking if Athena's Aid was bugged or I'm just unlucky? Well, I just got it 😂
steep drift
Hurrah!
atomic nebula
What's the best way to get to Asterius before the arena fight?
I'm trying to get the fists hidden aspect
wide wigeon
I think it's just random. Just make sure you're picking elite encounters.
fast idol
...I tried extermer measures twice now with combos that are usually an easy win for me
I died
utterly
shut estuary
guys i have a big doubt
i finished the game 10 times and i think, i missed some dialogues before the very and between Hades and Zagreus?
wide wigeon
@fast idol That's fighting ||Hades|| with new moves, right?
shut estuary
i am still at the final scenes, so Hades will not speak in the angry mood like before to Zagreus?
wide wigeon
I've only done it for the first bosses 😅
@shut estuary I'm not sure.
Also, be careful of spoilers.
wide wigeon
I imagine the important conversations will still occur, if you missed anything.
shut estuary
ok thx Max!
wide wigeon
You're welcome (though, I that was all a guess so take it with a grain of salt :P)
shut estuary
yea i imagine no problem 😄
fast idol
I mean it is the spoiler channel after all
fast idol
I'm obv not gonna tell, just keep in mind that there are a bunch of altered and altereble dialogue strings that change depending on your progress
So depending on how fast you are you'll have a different experience than others
wide wigeon
Like, theoretically, if you completed the main story on your tenth run...?
Someone has to have done that already, right?
shut estuary
I'm obv not gonna tell, just keep in mind that there are a bunch of altered and altereble dialogue strings that change depending on your progress
@fast idol Well... i did like 68 escape attempts before reach ||the very ending|| , 75 hours 😄 , so i think i did read a lot of dialogues and miss less...i hope 😄
anyway, beautiful game, i'm excited 🙂 , i really love this game
wide wigeon
Yeah, I feel like you should be fine. I completed the story around or just before attempt 40 and I'm pretty sure I'm still getting dialogue that would have been experienced before completing the story.
shut estuary
Yeah, I feel like you should be fine. I completed the story around or just before attempt 40 and I'm pretty sure I'm still getting dialogue that would have been experienced before completing the story.
@wide wigeon that's a reliefe 🙂
wide wigeon
And same. This game hooked me so hard. Supergiant really knows how to make fun, beautiful games.
shut estuary
And same. This game hooked me so hard. Supergiant really knows how to make fun, beautiful games.
@wide wigeon before this game i was have "on going" Zero no Kiseki, CrossCode and other stuff, i tried this, and is more than 10 days that i play ONLY this game, just..incredible... and after this one i have to play Bastion, Pyre and Transistor....Supergiant are...just unique like Vanillaware
wide wigeon
Bastion was amazing. Transistor was amazing. I didn't play Pyre, but I LOVE the soundtrack for that game. Darren Korb does such a great job with all these soundtracks.
shut estuary
Incredible team (supergiant) ahah
spring ocean
I've got 6 hearts with Chaos and the next one is locked. I even completed the minor prophecy of beating the boss with his keepsake, but I'm not getting new options. How do I unlock that?
wide wigeon
I think you just have to wait until you have enough conversations with him to unlock further options.
spare remnant
@stark mulch there’s no downside to doing it other than feeling bad as a player
@spring ocean you have to also build up relationship with Nyx. ||Then go back and forth with conversations between Nyx and ones with Chaos until they tell you to open a portal to patch things up between them||
For me, I didn’t get those conversations offered to me until after ||epilogue||
spring ocean
Okay, I didn't read spoiler (because don't want to be spoiled lol) but I'll work on Nyx then
spare remnant
It’s a bunch of back and forth between the two of them and takes several runs of visiting both of them
The problem is how many quests go through Nyx
spring ocean
Cheers!
spare remnant
Good luck
tame badger
Hey there! Just wondering if i'm having a bug or if i didn't understand something about one of the last prophecy you get (i suppose).
||Persephone is asking me to invite all the gods by talking to them once to give them an invitation. I found all the gods, and with each one we had a talk about the invitation but Hermes doesn't care at all, having random conversation with him, the boons, and nothing else, not only one time but several. I don't think i understand why i can't give him the invite since he's the last one who need to be invited.||
If someone could lead me on what i have to do if i forgot something that would be very nice! Thanks!
supple dagger
sounds like a weird bug.
grave shale
Regarding Charon || Can you only trigger his fight in Elysium||?
lime wren
you can trigger it on any of the first three floors ||but it can't be a shop just before the boss room, since those have different layouts||
however ||he doesn't scale at all, so the fight is very difficult early on||
supple dagger
||Charon fight|| early in a run is kinda okay. Depends entirely on what you're starting with on whether the fight will be a long drag or a cakewalk. :3 Always nice to get him early though because ||you get that 20% discount early and can actually make use of it for the remainder of the run.|| Ofc, if you still feel ill-equipped, then don't do it. ❤️ ❤️ You'll get better with time.
Related, ||they finally brought back snapping the jars again! I missed it!||
grim loom
Regarding ||Charon||, I feel like the patterns are very straightforward and simple enough - I just can't figure out for my life why it is so difficult to dodge.
grave shale
On another note dunno if its intentional or a bug
drifting citrus
weird wind-up times, i think
grave shale
Sometimes during EM1 I ||only have to fight 2 of the sisters instead of all 3|| is this normal
oak kindle
yes
grave shale
Ah okay
drifting citrus
the waves of fog just feel like a random bullet hell and i just dash like mad
usually works out in my favor
oak kindle
i dont quite know the rules for when you can even fight him
like,sometimes the bag doesnt show up
must be some rule to it
drifting citrus
so, you need to have beaten the final boss once for it to start showing up
drifting citrus
from there, it has a 22% chance of appearing in any mid-biome shop
oak kindle
ah
grim loom
I mean for the swings I just go by the general old rule
oak kindle
a chance.
drifting citrus
it'll only appear once per run
drifting citrus
luck and very quick instincts are what's needed
timber geode
How do I activate the thing to get the || Singer's Gambit || from the house contractor?
Do I need to buy || all of the music? ||
Cause I know I need to talk to || Nyx ||
midnight marten
@timber geode I don't know the exact condition but you definitely don't need to buy all
timber geode
Okay
grim loom
has someone reported this bug already?
so, than, when I gift him he flies away right?
I go into admin chamber (or any room for that matter) and back, than isn't there
oak kindle
probably not a bug
grim loom
but the talk prompt is there, and if I interact with the prompt, than just decides to apparate a few moments later
grim loom
gotcha
this was before the last patch, although I don't think I've read that one in the last patchnote
oh wait, nvm, that's what the specific story interactions meant, mb
timber geode
Well I managed to talk to || Nyx and she told me to use the administrator chamber to maybe get a deal to get the Singer's Gambit but im not sure what I need to do in that room ||
rocky dirge
Have you already gifted as much nectar as you can to Orpheus and Eurydice?
uncut kettle
Are there any downsides to just ||using a trinket to force a god to appear, giving them a nectar, and then yeeting myself and repeating? I've spent a long time in the game now and want to unlock the epilogue, but because I didn't know the requirements I have unlocked a bunch of the conditions to forge bonds with the gods but just haven't given them the nectar they need yet. I absolutely adore this game, but I have a backlog now and need to move on, but I really, really want to wrap the story up first.||
drifting citrus
not really
rocky dirge
No idea then, check the wiki maybe? Though I remember reading that tons of quests also require high affection with Nyx, so maybe try that also
drifting citrus
as long as you're dying and not pressing Give Up
rocky dirge
And as always, might just be good ol' RNG
drifting citrus
though you might progress through House questlines really fast if you do
timber geode
I just wanna get the contract to make the two of them live in the house
but rng I guess
cause the wiki's not really helping
uncut kettle
Thanks for the answer! || I actually have finished a lot of those questlines already, that's how bad I was about doing the actual stuff for the epilogue lol. I fully romanced Meg, Chaos and Nyx are about to talk again, Orpheus and Eurydice are back together, Achilles is already about to reunite with Patroclus, etc.||
uncut kettle
Great, then thank you!
drifting citrus
nope, hell mode is specific to a save
grim loom
ungh
drifting citrus
you'd have to start a new save if you want hell mode/no hell mode
grim loom
I decided to make a dedicated hell mode save for trying 32+ heat runs, but then that means I have to unlock everything again
slightly painful
spare basin
w8 you can give nectar to meg?
grim loom
yes, zag also invites her over to his room to parthenon and chill later
grim loom
oh wait
hades now says come forth, i haven't got all day... or night?
how have i not noticed this yet, this is hillarious
brisk citrus
I'm going a bit crazy with this do we know Hypnos unlock condition? What I have found on the net just isn't happening I just completed my 120ish run.
lime wren
his can take ages cause Than rarely spawns and you've gotta hope he decides to show up at the house; then gotta hope he decides to do one of the voice lines for that quest
then it has to happen a bunch
brisk citrus
Rip 😦
static condor
I figured there's still more
grim loom
hades will never let you down
heavy vigil
Hades will rise you above
prime mulch
hades will never let you down
@grim loom hades will never give you up
grim loom
o
open berry
[music kicks up]
atomic forge
Question how many escapes are needed till you reach the epilogue?
tall bane
It's not based on how many escapes you have to finish a bunch of other questlines. Not sure exactly which ones but ya
atomic forge
Oh?
tall bane
I just got epilogue today and I haven't bonded with every character but definitely most of them. That was after quite a few runs with no new dialogue from the main peeps
grim loom
epilogue is more about building relationships with gods
so, as long as you saw the ending and got a ton of nectar, you might as well be on something like 10 escapes and see the epilogue
atomic forge
yup, you just gotta bond with 6 gods (or five plus demeter)
timber geode
Me after beating the main story for Hades: yo pass the aux cord
Friend: better not play trash
Me: https://youtu.be/ojx8dyes__8 
I absolutely love this song
fast shuttle
how many clears do i need to get hades' keepsake? just 1?
timber geode
It took me a while to get it
But basically I feel after talking to him a bit you can then gift him nectar and he’ll give it
|| Persephone also has a really good keep sake ||
graceful flax
dude the soundtrack is so fire
||keeping extreme measures maxed just to hear that sweet third phase hades bgm||
😩
timber geode
The song turns from “metal/rock version of the main theme” into
BFG DIVISION from Doom
And it’s great
timber geode
In the blood is also a new favorite of mine
And also like, cmon, the singing for “Good Riddance” from both voice actors is just
graceful flax
its soooo so good
timber geode
graceful flax
any vocals by darren and ashley just make my heart go 
i want the hades ost on vinyl so bad
itll go with my copy of the pyre ost <3
might open up commissions again just to get the limited edition vinyls tbh
timber geode
Also fighting || Hades After doing the main story is amazing ||
|| Hades: how goes pillaging my kingdom again?
Zag: Oh it’s going just lovely!
Hades: Good! ||
Not an exact quote, but I still loved it
magic sage
Do you regain access to ||greece|| again at any point after credits roll?
atomic forge
||No.||
magic sage
So you can ||catch all the fish|| you need from other areas?
lime yoke
||greece fishing points spawn in the 'leave' area after you've seen credits||
spare basin
on the cthonic collegues, who is the 4th name on the list? only one im missing
grave mulch
the timing on when the explosion damages you in the upgraded gorgon + stomper fight is hot garbage
split kelp
on the cthonic collegues, who is the 4th name on the list? only one im missing
@spare basin It's ||Companion Rib||, you get him from ||Skelly||.
heady timber
What do i do with my truckfull of ambrosia, other than trading them for titan blood?
atomic forge
Smooch everyone.
heady timber
😳
atomic forge
Okay, just two people.
heady timber
sounds like a deal
lime wren
Get all the Chibis
toxic sandal
My question is to the devs. As far as I know Persephone is daughter of Demeter and Demeter is goddess of farming and harvest. According to mythology gods agreed that Hades can have Persephone for 3 months of the year and then she is free to be with her mother for the 9 months. And winters accur cuz Demeter waits for her daughter for 3 months. Now the question is when I passed Cerberus, it was winter outside. I still couldnt pass Hades fight yet but according to my knowledge she should be with Hades. As far as we know she wasnt with Hades. Then it should be summer outside. Or she isnt with Demeter as well. Maybe thats why its winter outside.
lime wren
The game doesn’t go off of direct mythology; it’s changes many things
But as far as the winter thing; it is explained as you continue the story
toxic sandal
Thanks mate
Didnt want to spoil anything I was just sooo exited
Whrn I saw outside was winter
shut shale
you can talk with demeter and zeus for more details
lime wren
Dionysus sometimes talks about it a little too
lime wren
If you just got to the surface for the first time; you’ve just started the real game
toxic sandal
Damn :D
lime wren
you’ll unlock even more stuff once you beat Hades up the first time; tons of stuff to do
toxic sandal
Thanks mate, looking forward to it now. I was kinda sad that it would finish that fast but hey
I was wrong
lime wren
heavy vigil
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2247794373
Whats that saying? Like talking to a brick wall? In this case a boulder? lol
upbeat willow
Bouldy is saying they believe in you and you'll succeed at the thing you're doing ^_^
fast idol
In this house of hades we Stan bouldy
thin vessel
If I reunite Orpheus with his muse, will I be able to have someone sing in the House of Hades still?
lime wren
thin vessel
Yes or no answer works here
lime wren
If I reunite Orpheus with his muse, will I not be able to have someone sing in the House of Hades anymore?
The three duo quests do not remove the respective person from the house
heady timber
@toxic sandal it wasnt an agreement by the gods, persephone ate a pom seed so she had to spend a part of the year in hades
lime wren
They might be gone more often though, at least ||achilles|| is
heady timber
ngl i understand why eury would be mad at orpheus
he did the only thing hades told him not to do
lime wren
I mean in actual mythology she caused that iirc
heady timber
no
lime wren
I don’t remember the myth exactly but she did something that made him look back
heady timber
deal was if orpheus leaves hades without looking back, shes resurrected
he lost to temptation
junior dew
no i'm pretty sure all versions just say that orpheus sucked
heady timber
get yourself a man that will save you from hades
dont marry orpheus
ivory spire
In actual mythos Orpheus looked back because he couldn't hear her so he grew suspicious
lime wren
he looked back right as they reached the surface, but she was still technically not on the surface so it counted as looking back
ivory spire
So"My doubt betrayed the better of me" is pretty accurate
lime wren
they specifically had to both be on the surface
serene shale
how do i get to the epilogue? I've beat hades like 110 times since the credits rolled
ivory spire
You need specific dialog from spoilers
lime wren
you have to get 6 olympians to max hearts then wait for ||persephone|| to tell you how to continue
serene shale
oh i see thanks
lime wren
*getting Demeter to her locked heart counts as a maxed olympian too since her lock requirement is beating the epilogue
ivory spire
You'll know what it is when spoilers has the important ! on their head
serene shale
also I'm missing the aspect of ||gilgamesh ||for the fists but every time i talk to asterius alone he has nothing to say
lime wren
spoiler ||gilgamesh|| as that was added in 1.0
lime wren
"Spoiler tag v1.0 endgame content please!", its in the channel desc, and i've seen people scolded for saying ||gilgamesh|| in here before
either way its just courteous
ivory spire
At this point I just never say the names of spoilers and just say Shield 4, redacted and spoilers
It doesn't take that much more time
lime wren
^
well the aspects i tend to still type out and spoiler but most other stuff i'll just replace
mainly just cause i like typing the word ||Excalibur||
serene shale
i only have 2 steam achievements left and getting ||gilgamesh|| is one of them, plz help
lime wren
you have to fight him with the fists equipped once, he'll mention you fighting him with your bare hands
after that he can give you the keyphrase with any weapon equipped
lime wren
well it doesn't always trigger that line
heavy vigil
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2247831935
Bow aspect unlocked, Using the Gun when the convo came up
lime wren
Beowulf and ||Gilgamesh|| specifically have lines that need to trigger with the weapon in hand first
the other 4 do not
prime mulch
the other four does too, like zeus and chaos need to see the weapon first
lime wren
Zeus will comment on Exagryph, but it isn't required for him to tell you its keyphrase
prime mulch
that....what i said
lime wren
i mean he has a line talking about it but that line is just extra dialogue, it isn't required like the ones for Aegis and Malphon
heavy vigil
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2247856461
🤔 Is that a suggestion hades? lol
hardy spruce
Hey guys, I'm at the point where ||Dusa got fired||. Tell me this ends well
heavy vigil
i think Zeus has vanished from my runs
fast idol
RIP Zeus
mighty badge
Hello, could someone direct me please, I have a question/problem with obtaining the 4th aspects of the weapons, where is the proper place to ask?
heavy vigil
I have 4 unlocked so far, just need Gun and fists
fast idol
Try to force Zeus with the Keepsake
For fists I can't help either because Asterius really can't be assed to talk about it
hardy spruce
Just have the fists on and get to asterius
He'll say he had a dream or something
Fisting him probs
fast idol
You first need him to comment on you fighting him bear handed
after that the dialogue can pop up even without wearing the weapon
worked the same for the rail
mighty badge
I obtained almost all hidden aspects, but Artemis and Chaos don't wanna comment on bow/shield. I've spent way more than 5 titan blood for them. Even maxed out one of the aspects. I finished 60+ runs and still didn't get those two. Since, shied is my favorite one, it's really frustrating...
fast idol
it could take a while, but Chaos should talk about it soon since they don't have that big of a pool of dialogue
mighty badge
Hm, should I have a shield in my hand in that moment? (same for bow?)
fast idol
I don't think I had to
fun thing though that is only slightly related
if they tell you the waking phrase and you engage in a dialogue without unlocking the aspect they'll comment on it
mighty badge
ahah, really fun stuff, all that bits-and-bytes of lore/comments is one of the best thing about Hades, love that
hardy spruce
Supergiant is awesome that way
heavy vigil
Try to force Zeus with the Keepsake
@fast idol No sooner did i equip his keep sake and started my run, Hes the first god to appear for me LOL
heavy vigil
And he didnt mention anything, damn it
hardy spruce
The keepsake does that
fast idol
otherwise try to do some runs with the gun equipped and then encountering Zeus idk
heady timber
@heavy vigil idk if this is true but whenever i used dionysus keepsake some of the gods, including zeus, never appear
by true i mean if its intended
steep drift
That's just RNG, I think.
The keepsake from a deity (except Hermes) just ensures that you get that god first, it doesn't affect the draws for the other deities in the run.
hidden jewel
@mighty badge you have to ||spend 5 titan blood per weapon and then talk to a certain person to unlock the the keyphrase: spear - achilles; sword - nyx; shield - chaos; bow&arrow - artemis; twin fists - bull of minos miniboss; gun - zeus||
upbeat willow
||4th aspect spear unlock conditions are wrong @hidden jewelyou can find them pinned (specifically the second message) in this channel||
hidden jewel
@upbeat willow oops my bad.. ||must have unlocked 5 aspects and then spent 5 titan blood on it|| lol
upbeat willow
||nope, just unlocked 5 aspects (non zag aspects)||
eternal breach
ayy finally got the ||epilogue quest||
prime mulch
Hey guys, I'm at the point where ||Dusa got fired||. Tell me this ends well
@hardy spruce yes dw
junior dew
i think i progressed things such that it hasn't even happened? like, i'm getting the buildup lines well after i've maxed out everyone's bonds
prime mulch
what hasnt happened?@junior dew
junior dew
||the firing||
prime mulch
bad rng i guess, i get it by doing suicide by guan yu
mighty badge
@hidden jewel the main problem is that i did, more than 3 times, it didn't help and i dunno what the problem, but thank you anyway
sly tulip
Woah, I love this boon setup 😂
wary jackal
Quick question, can you have more than one romance at the time?
south ravine
yes
spare remnant
There’s even unique dialogue if you have more than one at once
spare remnant
I just get mad at what they did to my girl ||Dusa|| in regards to how ||Nyx|| treats her when you’ve romanced her.
Though I’m pretty sure they wrote her to be ||Asexual|| without using the term.
wary jackal
I'm umlocking her romance yet I just dated ||Thanatos ||and omw to romance ||Megaera||. They are my absolute favourite
I wanted to date ||Achilles ||but apparently you can't he loves ||Patroclus ||xD. Btw how do you unlock his favor, I have them both with the heart locked and don't have any interactions with ||Achilles||
junior dew
just keep talking to everyone :| you have access to the office right
spare remnant
@wary jackal keep talking to both ||Achilles and Patroclus||, it takes several times of going back and forth to get the “find the contract” mission
Then you have to talk to Nyx like all of the contract missions involve
spare remnant
It’s not more to him, it’s a back and forth
Like ping pong between the two of them
wary jackal
Oh and also I have ||Hermes ||locked too but I already did the mission he gave me?
junior dew
just keep dragging his gift around
he has like maybe three convos about you having ranked it up
spare remnant
It wasn’t an issue for me because that’s my second favorite keepsake, only behind ||Persephone||’s, which took a long time to get
sly tulip
Uhm, I'm going up against ||Hades|| now, any tips? 😅
spare remnant
Last boss name is spoilers in this channel, edit your post
sly tulip
... The ones that explodes?
spare remnant
As for tips: ||when he shoots out balls, destroy them or they will do a shockwave. You can dash through the ring from it, but it gets tricky when there’s 2-3 at once||
||the green pots can be triggered if you range attack them with cast or whatever your build allows to free up some space.
Keep an eye on where the rocks are because there are some attacks you need to hide behind them for.
When Hades disappears, do whatever you want or need to while you wait. Whatever he does when he reappears, you should be able to dash away||
sly tulip
I'm a bit scared to go in... I only have 2 death's defiance 😓
sly tulip
I know what I'm doing, but I still lost 2 against the third boss...
spare remnant
Also he ||gets a second wind|| when || his first health bar runs out||, and will use a ||shockwave when he revives||
balmy junco
hiii, im really sorry to interrupt but i am wondering if theres any info on how to open the locked doors in the house?
also when does the garden open 🥺
sorry again
junior dew
have you been getting sleep
balmy junco
ive only been able to sleep once when forced by the story, every time i try to interact with the bed zagreus says no 😦
spare remnant
One is the ||admin office|| and you have to have a dream about it first, talk to a bunch of people, and unlock it with the contractor
junior dew
hm. theres a dream that unlocks one of those things, the other two are story based
just keep winning
balmy junco
o okie 🙂 i only just had my first win so that makes sense
spare remnant
The one is around your ||7th to 9th|| victory and talking to Achilles.
@junior dew what room is the third?
spare remnant
Ahh, then that’s ||when you hit credits||
manic cave
so i have all the requirements for aspect of ||beowulf|| but do I need to have it equipped to get the dialogue with ||chaos||
lean orbit
I believe yes
hoary kraken
Question - is there a way to "reset" the story or character dialogue (apart from starting a new save entirely)?
frozen jolt
no, you have to start a new save to see dialogue again
hoary kraken
Dang, kk thanks
hardy girder
ya know
if hades really took security seriously
he'd have the two broken pillars at the entrance to the temple of styx removed entirely
lean orbit
Maybe he does take it seriously but doesn't have all time in the world to check everything thoroughly
speaking of security measures, my save file has locked me out of releasing Orpheus. Checking by wiki, the release is unlocked before Fishing Rod, but I have rod and no release
Is there something I'm missing?
rocky dirge
"Release" in that case just means having him appear in the house
rocky dirge
Hm, kinda weird then
lean orbit
The only theory I have is that the item appears later than after 11 (current) escape attempts
rocky dirge
Well, if I've learned anything from trying to unlock things in Hades, is that it's extremely heavily RNG reliant
Sometimes the trigger just wont show up for a while
lean orbit
Yeah, that's also fair note
granted it feels a bit icky because that's seemingly the only missing requirement for Deluxe contractor who has quite a stash of goodies
spare remnant
All the major story plots go through Nyx.
If something that got backed up behind her, you gotta deal with it
heady timber
i have enough to get the sword aspect, ||nyx|| is just toying with me at this point, escape attempt 55
balmy junco
does hades throne room place open, if so how does one open it?
the door at the far back of the west hall is what im speaking about, i think it's hades room?
frozen jolt
keep playing
balmy junco
i figured that to be the case, i was looking for a bit more of a specific answer since i couldnt find anything online...
but thank you anyhow 🙂
frozen jolt
the more specific answer: ||after a couple of victories, the door opens once. after the credits you have permanent access to it||
balmy junco
thank you, i appreciate it 🙂
i figured it must be similar to the ||administration|| but only wanted to confirm!
fallow plume
I've been having a hard time to do Sisyphus favor... he was the first one I got to that point, 40 clears later and a lot of ambrosias given to almost everyone in the house.. nothing 😦
no idea what am I missing
heady timber
@fallow plume ||talk to meg and hades about lightening his sentence and free him from the contractor iirc||
fallow plume
@heady timber Im already full of hearts with her and got no dialog about sisyphus 😦
tidal gyro
||hi just wanna confirm, that after romancing mag, the heart dialogue can happen more than once right? Where you sleep with her again? I’ve had it appear once but no more, i heard its reoccurring just wanna confirm ||
drifting citrus
i assume so, i've gotten it multiple times with ||thanatos||
fallow plume
@tidal gyro |It is recurring|
heady timber
no clue then, idk how to help
reef moat
||the last patch said it fixed good riddance unlocking from house contractor, i already went through when eurydice gave me the sheet music but it still doesnt appear?||
bright lotus
There was a bug for this, apparently they fixed it with the latest patch but I would report it if you still can’t get it
fair light
Re: Good Riddance, it should be available from the House Contractor ||after Orpheus sings it in the House||.
hidden kestrel
@reef moat Are you on Switch? I'm not sure if the update has gone live there yet. It still has 1.0.36054 for me when I check for updates.
reef moat
yes
hidden kestrel
I'm guessing we're just a bit behind on updates right now. Maybe Nintendo's approval is just slower then Steam or Epic? Idk.
But that's probably why it's still missing
reef moat
oh ok that makes sense ty 😊
hidden kestrel
No prob, glad I could help!
ebon portal
Just wanted to know who I can romance and if I can romance multiple characters?
pale grail
atomic forge
I just talked to thantos and I git a rank advancement what does that do?
atomic forge
It says rank advancement after I had dialogue between Thanatos and persphone
static adder
lean orbit
Finally, after 14 escape attempts, Orpheus parchment came around on father's table and now I get to upgrade everything with 20 diamonds
26 even. Literally bought out everything at hand
spare remnant
There will always be stuff you need more diamonds for (until late game).
Even if it’s trading for Ambrosia and/or Blood
sly tulip
😂
The minotaur can't hit me when I have 4 dashes 😂
I'm not really sure which artefact I want to use... Is there a recommendation for the last boss? 🤔
spare remnant
The time I had 6 dashes was one of the most fun runs I’ve had
sly tulip
I can imagine that 😂
lime wren
Spearhead and Acorn are best for the last boss imo
spare remnant
Skelly gives you an extra Death Defiance. Cerberus extra health.
sly tulip
I also had lighting dash and 45% chance for extra lightning to strike x)
Oh, right. I don't have Skelly's x)
But the +25 health might be nice, I suppose
spare remnant
It’s +50 when you level it up
spare remnant
Block 4 hits would be more than 25 health
lime wren
yeah acorn probably
sly tulip
Most likely. Too bad it's not every chamber 😂
lime wren
well most of the stuff in that level won't be doing damage with their actual attack
eh, i guess Bothers will
sly tulip
Bothers?
lime wren
the little mortar pot dudes
spare remnant
Now, +25 health WOULD be 25 + 12 or 13 per death defiance
sly tulip
And the final boss will most definitely hit me x)
lime wren
sly tulip
Doesn't he hit like, Idk, 50, or something?
lime wren
bother
sly tulip
Oh, those
spare remnant
I usually just do Hermes or ||Persephone|| the whole way though unless I’m low on death defiance by Styx
sly tulip
I usually try to get deflect for dash, and then some dmg boost