#h1-story-discussion | Supergiant Games | Page 184

ashen latch Jul 4, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Dude was 100% a fratboy

atomic forge Jul 4, 2020, 3:57 AM

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We've got full access to the game files right now so there's already a fair amount of modding (someone advertises the Discord server every once in a while), but last I heard there will not be any official support for it.

drifting citrus Jul 4, 2020, 3:58 AM

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Caitlin💃06/26/2020
Are there plans for modding support in the future?

Currently, Hades “technically” supports mods in that players have full access to game files, and you can modify them however you wish. We don’t currently have any plans to create modding tools specifically for Hades or our other games.

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there's occasionally a server link to a hades modding server in #self-promotion

heavy warren Jul 4, 2020, 4:45 AM

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no spoilers please, but is skelly's employer revealed somewhere in the current game?

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yes/no

atomic forge Jul 4, 2020, 4:45 AM

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No.

heavy warren Jul 4, 2020, 4:45 AM

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I think it's whoever the narrator is

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Zagreus actually responds to him at one point

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he could be an actual character

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 4:46 AM

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narrator is implied to have been revealed in the game already, so its not the narrator.

heavy warren Jul 4, 2020, 4:47 AM

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oh darn

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 4:48 AM

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wouldnt have realized it if greg hadnt said as much himself https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/477164376496013323/726133588344700968

drifting citrus Jul 4, 2020, 4:50 AM

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@atomic forge have you seen the convo line that starts when ||you have the lucky tooth and you pick up hermes||

atomic forge Jul 4, 2020, 4:50 AM

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I think so.

drifting citrus Jul 4, 2020, 4:50 AM

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haven't finished it myself but i think it pertains to skelly's employer

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 4:52 AM

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this one? https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/521035166471159828/728051860438646784

drifting citrus Jul 4, 2020, 4:53 AM

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can't remember the specifics, but yeah, then ||zag comments about it being skelly's tooth, and then skelly has a convo for zag afterwards||

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i figured it was something special since ||zag comments while in the boon selection screen||

vapid parcel Jul 4, 2020, 5:35 AM

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you do find out who skelly's employer is

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Am i just dumb or is it easier for exalted to come back now

atomic forge Jul 4, 2020, 5:42 AM

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You running any significant Heat?

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:45 AM

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I mean 9 but like, i wasn't running Overtime or Benefits Package?

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I guess maybe maybe it was the calisthenics??? Maybe i didnt kill them fast enough?

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Might be it

split kelp Jul 4, 2020, 6:20 AM

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Anyone knows why I haven't yet forged a bond with Dusa? I got her affinity gauge fully maxed out.

mystic mortar Jul 4, 2020, 6:37 AM

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you need to have a specific conversation with her first

wise wasp Jul 4, 2020, 11:51 AM

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||https://imgur.com/bGB5qya|| ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@clear oracle Oooh myyyy Hades would be puzzled the hell outta of ||her, like: "... Is Meg now liking his spanks?! I MUST BAN HER TO ETERNITY, OFF MY HOUSE!"||
Or ||"Sigh... remind me of my old days with Persephone"||

ashen latch Jul 4, 2020, 12:20 PM

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Lmafo

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Hades being a saucy boi in his youth holds up

glacial cedar Jul 4, 2020, 12:50 PM

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been practicing the harp for a while

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when does it sound less like absolute wire spanking

jaunty forge Jul 4, 2020, 12:50 PM

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Wasn't there a daughter of Hades and Persephone? One that was so beautiful Aphrodite disfigured half her face? I tried looking it up and found Mesperyan, but i couldn't really find any official looking sources. Doesn't really matter for a game so i was curious if other children of Hades will make an appearance

cloud geode Jul 4, 2020, 1:05 PM

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when does it sound less like absolute wire spanking
@glacial cedar you practice, you do a run, check if orpheus says anything about it then it becomes less ugly

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profit

jade slate Jul 4, 2020, 1:08 PM

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just interact with it a lot

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you’ll know when its done, trust me

cloud geode Jul 4, 2020, 1:11 PM

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somebody once ~~told me~~ said you just need to play with it 8ish times? before a run for it to happen

wise wasp Jul 4, 2020, 1:12 PM

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Wasn't there a daughter of Hades and Persephone? One that was so beautiful Aphrodite disfigured half her face? I tried looking it up and found Mesperyan, but i couldn't really find any official looking sources. Doesn't really matter for a game so i was curious if other children of Hades will make an appearance
@jaunty forge Quick reading in the internet, That daughter is maybe not a real one, since some sources say she is way too similar to the Erinyes.

I mean, Mageara, Alecto and Tishi are Zagreus sisters?

cloud geode Jul 4, 2020, 1:13 PM

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I know Melinoe and Macaria as Hades and Persephone's daughters

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My pfp is actually a Melinoe drawing from erinye

wise wasp Jul 4, 2020, 1:16 PM

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I know Melinoe and Macaria as Hades and Persephone's daughters
@cloud geode Yup, stated on the source I am looking as well.

I don't think the game as explicitly stated the furies are his sisters? And even then, We'll meet Melinoe and Makaria in late game? Or there was any mention of them?

cloud geode Jul 4, 2020, 1:16 PM

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but yeah Mesperyian isn't real

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Only one last character will be added then enough
Maybe a Styx npc but who knows 👀

jade slate Jul 4, 2020, 1:18 PM

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zagreus is a distaff counterpart to that character

cloud geode Jul 4, 2020, 1:18 PM

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Styx is different from the other biomes in terms of gameplay, maybe they won't add an NPC there
Maybe Hecate? Maybe straight up Persephone and all of this was just a big troll

jade slate Jul 4, 2020, 1:18 PM

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crackpot theory time

wise wasp Jul 4, 2020, 1:20 PM

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zagreus is a distaff counterpart to that character
@jade slate ||Aside from being part of Dionysus||, which character are you talking about?

jade slate Jul 4, 2020, 1:20 PM

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i mean

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a disfigured half face

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and zag has half his face covered a lot

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🤔

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its just a crack theory dont think too har

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dd

cloud geode Jul 4, 2020, 1:21 PM

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Mesperyian gives me Ebony Darkness Dementia etc from My Immortal vibes

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dunno why

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The fact is i discovered one of my favourite goddesses thanks to her so... ye

wise wasp Jul 4, 2020, 1:23 PM

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its just a crack theory dont think too har
@jade slate Now that you mention it... I think it is also a nod to it as well 😂 SO MANY NODS TO EVERYTHING

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||Especially Poseidon sending the minotaur to punish Theseus LOL||

vital oar Jul 4, 2020, 1:35 PM

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Why can you give Dusa 2 ambrosias? :d

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At once

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 1:36 PM

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you can give even more iirc

vital oar Jul 4, 2020, 1:36 PM

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I mean 2 at the same time

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Never saw anyone with this option

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 1:37 PM

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yeah, i'm talking about that

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it is intended and narratively explained as zag helping her to improve the lounge or something like that

vital oar Jul 4, 2020, 1:38 PM

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yeah, we're past that. I can't find this out atm, because after I have all the companions I turn every ambrosia to blood

split kelp Jul 4, 2020, 1:45 PM

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Dusa is the only one that takes more than one Ambrosia per gifting, and it's gonna be more than 2 soon.

vital oar Jul 4, 2020, 1:45 PM

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Thanks. On that note, I'm guessing you can only romance one person?

split kelp Jul 4, 2020, 1:47 PM

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No, you can fully romance ||two, Meg and Than, neither will get jealous|| and platonic-romance ||Dusa||.

vital oar Jul 4, 2020, 1:47 PM

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Weird. I have companions from all of them, and my story didn't progress that way

split kelp Jul 4, 2020, 1:47 PM

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For what it's worth in my save I've romanced ||Meg fully, have the friendship with Dusa and declined Than||.

vital oar Jul 4, 2020, 1:48 PM

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Seemed to me I don't have options. I speak everyone everytime

split kelp Jul 4, 2020, 1:49 PM

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IIRC for a full romance you need to max out the gauge fully. Just getting the companions isn't enough, you need to get all three hearts after the companion.

vital oar Jul 4, 2020, 1:50 PM

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I'm at the "heart arrow" phase with all of them 🙂

split kelp Jul 4, 2020, 1:51 PM

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Throw more Ambrosia down their maws until the hearts are all full.

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Gets expensive for Dusa in particular.

vital oar Jul 4, 2020, 1:51 PM

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Yeah.. That has to wait. Aspects are more important 😄

split kelp Jul 4, 2020, 1:53 PM

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FYI it's much easier to turn Ambrosia into Blood than it is to do it the other way around.

vital oar Jul 4, 2020, 1:53 PM

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I know

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But at the end of the day, besides the companions, it's all "just" lore, that I can look up at some point

glacial cedar Jul 4, 2020, 2:39 PM

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How much do I have to renovate the lounge before the prophecy about renovating the lounge is considered complete?

fickle comet Jul 4, 2020, 2:42 PM

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I believe you need a conversation with Dusa about that when you're done? Don't really remember.

frozen jolt Jul 4, 2020, 2:43 PM

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theres a list of things you need to buy, i believe - https://hades.gamepedia.com/Dusa#Favor

glacial cedar Jul 4, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Oh, nice I already have all I need

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Well I bought some more anyway cause the lounge is the best part of the house anyway

primal cipher Jul 4, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Is there anywhere to view the paintings you can get for the east wing?

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I found the one of Cerberus on Jen Zee's deviantart

junior field Jul 4, 2020, 4:07 PM

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don't believe so

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which reminds me of a suggestion I should make

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 4:22 PM

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do you guys gush at the voice actors of characters you enjoy or are you normal thanthink

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on that note no more theseus slander, cyrus is too sweet arespleading

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actually I don't care but truly bless sg for where they found everyone

ashen latch Jul 4, 2020, 4:23 PM

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New Headcanon: Theseus and Asterius are just closet drama geeks

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They have nothing against Zag, but they want to have fun working for Hades

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So they really committed to their bits

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 4:24 PM

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thinkingeyes hm

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more like asterius just goes along with it but imagining theseus as an obnoxious theater kid with the ego of someone who's had lead roles too often is pretty funny

ashen latch Jul 4, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Lmao yes

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Even better

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Honestly? Gushing over voice actors because i swear the voices are adding so much to the personality of the characters

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With so many characters, seriously, for example like, Theseus??? Nyx? Meg? Zag???

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EVERYONE TBH

fallen prairie Jul 4, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Each time Theseus speaks I want to fill his mouth with Bloodstones to shut him up.
That's kudos to the VA though.

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 4:29 PM

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ares, dio and theseus all share the same va lol

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 4:30 PM

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I just wanna hug Darren because damn does he do such a good job with Zag

fallen prairie Jul 4, 2020, 4:30 PM

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I'm aware that many characters share VAs.

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 4:30 PM

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I told him the way he voices ares has made sg ares the definitive portrayal of him for me 🥺

fallen prairie Jul 4, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Although, I never remember the specifics.

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Calmy murderous indeed.

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Logan is juggling like 5 characters isnt he

ashen latch Jul 4, 2020, 4:31 PM

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SGG Ares is honestly way more intimidating than most other portrayals. Less brute more cold and calculating

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Like the love of bloodshed is there, he’s just smarter about it

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 4:31 PM

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yes 👏

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Sgg ares is terrifying

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Ngl

fallen prairie Jul 4, 2020, 4:32 PM

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He doesn't crave excessive violence is what I can derive from SSG's Ares. I

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 4:32 PM

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I feel like he does but he just doesnt yell I LOVE BLOOD

fallen prairie Jul 4, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Unlike I suppose the popular understanding of the god is.

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Yeah that's a better explanation.

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Cyrus, jumping from voicing Ares to Theseus: parkour

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 4:33 PM

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it's about time we see something other than the usual loud, brutal and often implied to be less intelligent depiction media always defaults to. I end up loving any ares that diverts from the norm, I've collected 4 now

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PARKOUR LOL

ashen latch Jul 4, 2020, 4:33 PM

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His interactions with Artemis are hilarious.

Ares: You know, hunting and warfare are not too different. Our shared delight in slaughter-

Artemis: Please, just stop

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Sgg ares sounds intelligent and imo it makes him scarier

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Like he has stuff figured out

ashen latch Jul 4, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Yeah, like he’s Athena but without the restraint

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No rules of engagement or terms of surrender

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Just “how can I as efficiently as possible Gift zag more dead bodies?”

fallen prairie Jul 4, 2020, 4:34 PM

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It's my taste but I didn't like the Aphrodite much. Again, I haven't seen their representations in other media much.

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Ares but he's a cat and gifts Zag dead mice

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 4:36 PM

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ares, but with more >:3c

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 4:37 PM

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I wanted to say Hades but everyone is a cat but Zag is a dog

ashen latch Jul 4, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Cerberus is a Cat in a Dog onesie

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 4:37 PM

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kam has done hades cats iirc

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Or well he gives me pupper vibes at least as much as catto vibes

ashen latch Jul 4, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Tbh Zag is on that doggo energy. He would lowkey message his Dad even thought he escaped

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Pre recorded message via Iris, delivered via Hermes

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 4:38 PM

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See Zag definitely is full of doggo energy

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But he has rare catto moments

jade slate Jul 4, 2020, 4:39 PM

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zag is a bastard

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cat

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 4:39 PM

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(Yes, this is about the Oh? No thanks :) when theseus offered his autograph, thats 100% cat energy)

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Than and Meg are both cats

jade slate Jul 4, 2020, 4:39 PM

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i love ares when you use full call during a trial

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he says how dare you in the most offended voice possible

ashen latch Jul 4, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Than is the kind of barncat that is super helpful because he spends the day killing vermin but also wouldn’t hesitate to break a vase

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Than is a cat because to befriend than you have to take the same steps as when you befriend a cat

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Don't push him, wait for him to come on his own, give him plenty gifts

fallen prairie Jul 4, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Basically he chooses to befriend you? Is that what you mean?

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Pet only when allowed to

fallen prairie Jul 4, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Because that's my interpretation of cats.

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 4:42 PM

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If you go to a cat and try to pet it or pick it up it will not like you

fallen prairie Jul 4, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Can confirm.

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Unless it wants you to. Then it'll make all the effort to let you know it wants that.

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Just like our death boy

junior field Jul 4, 2020, 4:52 PM

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do you need to pet Cerberus 20 times in a row or overall for the unlock?

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feels like I've petted him so much there should be a hole in one of his heads now

open tiger Jul 4, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Not all at once, for sure

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And I'm pretty sure I skipped it a few times accidentally

junior field Jul 4, 2020, 4:57 PM

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really wish there was an in-game hint regarding this

fickle comet Jul 4, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Lord Ares is (almost?) like a high-functioning psychopath/sadist. He "bonds" seemingly only over the love for bloodshed.

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Literally, the more enemies you slaughter, the more he likes you.

ashen latch Jul 4, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Zag: So I started blasting, it’s not that interesting sorry.

Ares: Oh no! Continue please!

fickle comet Jul 4, 2020, 5:11 PM

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His relationship with Lady Nyx is curious, but we don't know what they actually talk about.

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:12 PM

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so according to sgg: War is a sadist who likes bloodshed, Famine is an old grandma

junior field Jul 4, 2020, 5:12 PM

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He "bonds" seemingly only over the love for bloodshed.
He's god of war. What do you want him to bond over, knitting and wine tasting?

ashen latch Jul 4, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Swag tbh

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Ares got style

crimson temple Jul 4, 2020, 5:13 PM

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He could be a proper opponent for the table-top-game in the bedroom.

fickle comet Jul 4, 2020, 5:13 PM

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I've only expressed an observation without judgment. dusa

clear oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Ares offered me 6 boons in a single run yesterday

fickle comet Jul 4, 2020, 5:14 PM

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He could be an interesting opponent, but I imagine he would want to add a rule that the winner is allowed to slaughter the loser.

clear oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:14 PM

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And 1 extra boon in Styx shop that I didn't buy

ashen latch Jul 4, 2020, 5:14 PM

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No fun in killing gods, they come back

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Add a destruction rule

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Pulverize them into bits

open tiger Jul 4, 2020, 5:14 PM

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That's more fun

ashen latch Jul 4, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Titan war style

fickle comet Jul 4, 2020, 5:14 PM

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That's even more fun for him, I imagine.

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Exactly.

open tiger Jul 4, 2020, 5:14 PM

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You can keep killing them

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:14 PM

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that is not exactly the ares of sgg

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sgg ares is more spartan than hellenistic

fickle comet Jul 4, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Eternal slaughter back and forth. He might be the only Olympian wishing that the Underworld renovations never finish.

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Just so the killing continues eternally.

ashen latch Jul 4, 2020, 5:15 PM

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The Spartans also recognized him as a force of nature, his statues were literally chained up

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Due to their healthy respect for what he represented

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Which I think we do see

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This isn’t Mars

fickle comet Jul 4, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Unless he wishes that Zagreus escapes, so that he can send him to some wars for more slaughter.

ashen latch Jul 4, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Like SSG Ares is martial discipline yes, but with the singular goal of bloodshed

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Which is imo very much in like with how Sparta saw him

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:17 PM

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its Spartan Ares

ashen latch Jul 4, 2020, 5:17 PM

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A god to be respected, but also feared

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:17 PM

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wait, so is the aphrodite in the game pandemos or ourania?

clear oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:18 PM

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I don't know any of these words

fickle comet Jul 4, 2020, 5:18 PM

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"Zagreus, why be up here on Olympus when you could be out there waging war? I would very much like to see that. Here, take these boons, and slaughter some mortals."

open tiger Jul 4, 2020, 5:18 PM

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I want to say pandemos, but I also only just woke up so I might have them backwards

clear oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Idk, Aphrodite boons seem p complete to me, so I think she is more panfullgame than pamdemos

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Maybe just me though

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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i see her as pandemos, but i dont remember any mention of her parentage

fickle comet Jul 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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@clear oracle I sometimes feel like half the people in this channel have some degree in Ancient Greek Mythology or something. I'm happy I know some of the gods' names. 😂

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:20 PM

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im just a dumb enthusiast

open tiger Jul 4, 2020, 5:20 PM

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I don't have a degree xD I've...just done a bit of research into them ^.^'

clear oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:20 PM

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I had 2 courses in classics in college, I still don't know so shrug

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:20 PM

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my specialty is mesopotamian mythology tho shrug

ashen latch Jul 4, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Tbh I did History, myth was just bedtime reading

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:21 PM

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hey religion is not bedtime reading, do you know how complicated the systems of belief were?

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:21 PM

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We're all mythology nerds in the Hades fandom

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:22 PM

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maybe only the story lurkers

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many are in for the gameplay, not the lore

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 5:22 PM

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hey what are y'all talking about here

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Hades: Get in for the gameplay, stay to pet the three headed dog

ashen latch Jul 4, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Soft doggo

open tiger Jul 4, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Pani! We brought up which Aphro the Hades Aphro is

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I'm sleepy so pardon my lack of comprehensible wording

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:24 PM

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im still thinking Pandemos, but some of the boons just says Ourania

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 5:24 PM

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oooh i just think sgg's canon isn't that deep in mythology

open tiger Jul 4, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Also valid xD

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:24 PM

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wait what

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Makes sense

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Theyre just having fun with it

clear oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Wjat do you mean? An automatic rifle isn't canon in Greek mythology?

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:25 PM

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NO EXAGRYPH SLANDER

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:25 PM

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NO RAIL BANTER ALLOWED

ashen latch Jul 4, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Tbh she’s also got Pre Sparta vibes. Like Cytherian Aphrodite, who at the time was basically Astarte

clear oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:25 PM

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You are gonna tell me the Trojan war didn't use nuclear weapons next?

ashen latch Jul 4, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Like SSG does like to pick and chose and then edit

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:25 PM

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hmph true

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Exagryph is my baby and I will fight anyone with high magnetic firepower

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:26 PM

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I mean for hells sake we have mythology jokes

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:26 PM

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but i dont see any areia vibes tho

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what are your Thoths

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:26 PM

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areia?

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 5:26 PM

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whew this blew up huh but @ shrew I'm not sure the gods are meant to depict any particular epithet in the game, but there may be nods toward them

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:26 PM

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as in, sand?

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I mean, I don't like sand

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it's rough and coarse and it gets everywhere

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:27 PM

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sand...its an epithet of aphro that was worshipped in sparta and cytheria

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 5:28 PM

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aphrodite areia, the warlike 🤧

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Areia means sand in portuguese 😄

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:28 PM

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partyblob

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 5:28 PM

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also i think in sgg's canon the epithets are just made up by mortals

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like many other things about gods

open tiger Jul 4, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Shrew, that emoji is perfectly synched up with my music

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:29 PM

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ohhhh yea forgot that, but how is astarte aphrodite made up, i mean astarte is an entirely separate goddess

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Is it the time of day to say Aphrodites great

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Sure is

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Venusaur is an incarnation of aphrodite

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 5:30 PM

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not my fav [waits to be smited by nyaa in my sleep]

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 5:30 PM

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the gods are kinda transcendent in relation to mortals in sgg's canon

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Aphrodite is great

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But the best is ~~Mommy~~ Auntie Nyx

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:31 PM

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My Venusaur is a kind soul and i will not stand for him to be compared to aphro like that

clear oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:31 PM

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But the best is ~~Mommy~~ Auntie Nyx
What a weird way to spell Artemis

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:31 PM

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As much as i love aphro

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guyysssss not the mommy stufff artie is aceee

open tiger Jul 4, 2020, 5:32 PM

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~~Artenyx~~

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:32 PM

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if i am correct there may have been a syncretism between artie and nyx

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:32 PM

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I thought Artemis liked the whole thing about hunting and being hunted, but okay

open tiger Jul 4, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Gesundheit, Shrew what a syncretism

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:33 PM

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gesundheit?

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german

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 5:33 PM

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bless you

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Hehehehehehe

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Artie hints solely in the 🙇 way

open tiger Jul 4, 2020, 5:34 PM

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I thought that was a more wide-spread joke xD

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:34 PM

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...

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 5:34 PM

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the only word i know in german

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:34 PM

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🏹

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🏹 not 🙇

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 5:34 PM

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certainly a popular joke in russia

open tiger Jul 4, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Basically, saying "bless you" in some form when someone says a long/complex word

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:35 PM

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i know three german words, landsknecht, zweihnder and bidenhander, am i weird

open tiger Jul 4, 2020, 5:35 PM

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XD

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Panzerkampfwagen

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I don't even know if I spelled it correctly.

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:35 PM

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it is correct

clear oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:35 PM

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How do yall not know schadenfreude

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 5:35 PM

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heart-seeking 🙇‍♂️

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Oh, and Scheiße.

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Kremesuppe

open tiger Jul 4, 2020, 5:35 PM

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I know that one!

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(schadenfreude)

clear oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Also #off-topic-discussion

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Last I check Hades is based in the Underworld, not Germany

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Same thihng

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*Thing

open tiger Jul 4, 2020, 5:36 PM

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I mean...the Underworld can move?

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:36 PM

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~~germanic underworld~~

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Is there a difference gets arrow'd

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I deserved that

open tiger Jul 4, 2020, 5:37 PM

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It's even pointing at you!

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Anyway, let's all agree that the best girl in all of the underworld is our girl Dusa.

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Being Artemis' disciple ironically makes you more prone to getting shot

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:37 PM

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wdym its Hel

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Nah

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Best girl is obviously [static noise]

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 5:38 PM

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tisiphone?

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:38 PM

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All of them straight up all of them

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Murder?

open tiger Jul 4, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Aight, I actually gotta go. Meeting in 20 minutes and I still need breakfast. Thanks for the wake-up chat y'all!

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Mmmmurderer...

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 5:38 PM

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gl!

clear oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Artemis

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Cute

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Beautiful

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No drama

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Show stopping

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:39 PM

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dusa

clear oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Best

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Incredible

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Talented

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Best shot in the wild wild west

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Dusa: Hardworking, reliable, interesting, is there for you when you need the most.

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:39 PM

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~~i dont need her tho~~

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:40 PM

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You take that back.

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 5:40 PM

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dusa floats, can artemis do that?

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:40 PM

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See? Pani knows what's up

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:41 PM

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technically the moon is floating

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:41 PM

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thanthink

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 5:42 PM

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actually artemis is probably my favorite olympian in hades in terms of story

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oh nope there's dio

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 5:42 PM

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@gilded oracle fyi you might not want to curse in other languages, esp when the eng equivalent is blocked by the bot 😉

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Oh, sorry!

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:42 PM

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dios mios

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 5:44 PM

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i'm a terrible person cause i just thought of plenty russian curses which are ok when translated to english

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:44 PM

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I love way too many characted in this game

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Favourite is still Zag though

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 5:44 PM

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true

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:44 PM

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wait, so the ancient greek curse erre es korakas is okay because the english equivalent is just to the crows

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 5:44 PM

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shrew dont make this complicated lol

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Hah

wise wasp Jul 4, 2020, 5:44 PM

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@clear oracle I agree on Artemis. She and Zag could meet up someday and TALK ALL DAY about their family issues.

Zeus even offered her to be Zag's mate. I would be motivated to RAM ALL THE WAY to the surface just for her.

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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zeus is one of my least favs ngl but also just. zeus in general man.

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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I mean, she made it v v clear shes super uncomfy w that

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Hehehe, "ram all the way"

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Zeus is

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Kinda bland

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Compared to other olympians

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:(

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Sorry, 5th grade syndrome

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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zeus is terrible by definition

atomic forge Jul 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Zeus is pure Boomer energy.

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Literally. Cause. You know

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Thujders boom

open tiger Jul 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Lmao

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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.

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i hate yall sometimes

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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nooooooo

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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gets hit with another arrow

crimson temple Jul 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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That ramming approach will immediately result in getting shot down, literally and figuratively.

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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well, he is exactly Hadad

open tiger Jul 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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I love y'all sometimes

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Huh this is the third arrow this week.

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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That's what you get by being on the archery range

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:47 PM

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I'M HER DISCIPLE

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EVERYTHING IS ARCHERY RANGE

open tiger Jul 4, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Hahaha

dusty ingot Jul 4, 2020, 5:47 PM

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I'm so hysterical about Theseus and Asterius starting to disagree and Theseus getting very upset

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:47 PM

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wait, what is the equivalent of Artemis in other culture? i cant remember one (except Diana, shes basically artemis anyways)

wise wasp Jul 4, 2020, 5:47 PM

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That ramming approach will immediately result in getting shot down, literally and figuratively.
@crimson temple ... I should have worded differently. Nobody likes to take an arrow to the kn--- cough cough I mean, to the head? And taint the beautiful leafy crown (I forgot the name, sorry!)

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:48 PM

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vong nguyet que (idk the english name)

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Cernunnos is a hunting god

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 5:48 PM

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i'm pretty sure finnish mythology has artemis-like goddess

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:48 PM

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wait, what is the equivalent of Artemis in other culture? i cant remember one (except Diana, shes basically artemis anyways)
@dense sparrow Tupã is the god of the hunt in the Guarani tribes of Brazil

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:48 PM

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obscurity 100

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 5:49 PM

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in russia we have no mythology (jk we do)

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Hey, I'm Brazilian, it's not that obscure

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At least not here, hehehe

wise wasp Jul 4, 2020, 5:49 PM

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in russia we have no mythology (jk we do)
@plain palm Tell us yours!

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Another slav here

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Cant remember the god of hunt

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But i know the gods of spring and thunder

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:50 PM

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[cheeki breeki plays in the background]

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:50 PM

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perun? everyone knows him

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:50 PM

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squats dramatically

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:50 PM

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or was it svarog?

wise wasp Jul 4, 2020, 5:50 PM

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I'll have to open that huge list of Slavic mythology (which, honestly, they sound very scary when I first read about them)

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 5:51 PM

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we have pagan gods but not actual mythology
i mean russians not finno-ugoric or siberian cultures

dusty ingot Jul 4, 2020, 5:51 PM

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I just googled Dzevana as the slav goddes of hunt, basically romean Diana

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:51 PM

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yes thats why its such a pain to research

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Ooh, I can tell the story of the guaraná! It's a nice story.

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Radegast is a bro we have a statue of him

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 5:51 PM

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no dzevana in russia lol

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 5:52 PM

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we are starting to stray into off topic territory lol

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:52 PM

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And yeah i meant Perun but i do know Svarog

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:52 PM

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yes off topic

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:52 PM

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anyway

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 5:52 PM

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yeah let's move lads

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Ditch zeus we want a cooler god for them thunders.

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thunderclap

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WHY ARE YOU SMITING ME I'M RIGHT

fickle comet Jul 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Lord Zeus is pretty cool.

dusty ingot Jul 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Well that's where Perun comes in

fickle comet Jul 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Actually, no, he's very rude to Lady Aphrodite.

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Yeah, screw Zeus! 🔫 dusa

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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well, Zeus is the Hadad of the family, he cant exactly be screwed

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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No don't screw Zeus

crimson temple Jul 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Poseidon is the cooler uncle.

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 5:54 PM

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guys,

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:54 PM

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yea, i feel a breeze coming when i see his boon

wise wasp Jul 4, 2020, 5:54 PM

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yea, i feel a breeze coming when i see his boon
@dense sparrow From... Demeter?

fickle comet Jul 4, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Poseidon calls the shades "filth".

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:54 PM

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okay that was the wrong pun

fickle comet Jul 4, 2020, 5:54 PM

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That's not cool.

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:54 PM

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posei said he wants to be my dad

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And i will not forget

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That

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:')

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:55 PM

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well, i dont sea him ever being that

wise wasp Jul 4, 2020, 5:55 PM

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I remember him saying that LOL

fickle comet Jul 4, 2020, 5:55 PM

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A dad who calls your mortal friends filth.

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:55 PM

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i call my friends filth

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:55 PM

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nocks an arrow anyone else want to make puns

fickle comet Jul 4, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Are shades technically still mortal?

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:55 PM

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I don't think so

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Don't think so

fickle comet Jul 4, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Unmortals.

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Yes.

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:56 PM

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no, they are manifestations of the animus in the underworld

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therefore depending on the animus we get different types of shades, i think

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Guess what shade you end up as depends on who you were

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 5:56 PM

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animus? like assassins creed? huh? where am i in this convo

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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animus, the soul according to the grecians

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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@open berry i think he means souls

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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hm is the immortality of soul canon in hades

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Like, anima

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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several people are typing... sjdhgsjkg

fickle comet Jul 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Is animus like a pokemon I haven't heard about?

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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that was so funny im so sorry

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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The normal people turn into shades, the great warriors turn into Elysium fighters

dusty ingot Jul 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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I get confused by the trial of gods. They get upset if you don't choose them no matter how good an uncle they were, and then they just forget it immediately. It kinda makes them all big babies

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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jesus christ dont people study greek these days

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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@fickle comet no,that's arcanine

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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I get confused by the trial of gods. They get upset if you don't choose them no matter how good an uncle they were, and then they just forget it immediately. It kinda makes them all big babies
@dusty ingot Gods are fickle like that. Love you one minute, hate you on the other

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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bro i am like trying to do three different things rn and i only possess one brain cell

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this chat does not have my brain cell rn

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:58 PM

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I read that wrong and thought you were possessed

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 5:58 PM

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i am

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Oh mood

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I PROPOSE

fickle comet Jul 4, 2020, 5:58 PM

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So how does Jesus Christ figure into all that?

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:58 PM

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WE TAKE TATZ' BRAINCELL.

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:58 PM

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arms, and the man i sing, who forced by fate
and divine juno's unrelenting hate

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:58 PM

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🏹

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Mom says it's my turn on the brain cell

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:59 PM

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MOM SAID ITS OUR TURN ON THE BRAINCELL TATZ

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 5:59 PM

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im giving it to ares for safekeeping

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 5:59 PM

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you're all arested

drifting citrus Jul 4, 2020, 5:59 PM

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dusa

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 5:59 PM

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dusa

drifting citrus Jul 4, 2020, 5:59 PM

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what is going on here...

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Breakfast

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 5:59 PM

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arms, and the man i sing, who forced by fate
and haughty juno's unrelenting hate
expelled and exiled, left the trojan shore
long labors, both by sea and land he bore

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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shrew: trying to have a some what serious and interesting discussion
me, putting on my clown nose: [bursts through the walls]

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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where is that dude in the game

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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not story nor spoilers are going on here

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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🤡 🎺

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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well, discussions on upcoming characters allowed'

drifting citrus Jul 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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that's pretty standard for this channel tbh

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zagreus for smash

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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this channel is only for greek nerds

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Damn

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🚪 🚶

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Dusa for Smash

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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smash for zagreus

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Don't smash zagreus

drifting citrus Jul 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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thanatos

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meg

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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i have a whole moveset for zag in smash(ssf2)

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:02 PM

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If it doesnt contain bloodstones im rioting

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We need more bloodstone stuff

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I want more bloodstone stuff

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Theyre such a cool ability

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Do you guys think that Zag's heterochromia is because one of his eyes is from Hades' side and the other from Persephone's side?

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:02 PM

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it does, and i hate it bc the number of sprites i would have to make is so huge, i basically abandoned the idea

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and ofc its because of that reason

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Yeah, thought so

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 6:03 PM

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iirc than comments on how one of his eyes matches his mothers

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:03 PM

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~~is zag's heterochromia the reason why he is not heterosexaul?~~

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 6:03 PM

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ive slept since that dialogue

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Headcanon time: one of the eyes gets more vibrant in colour the closer he is either to the surface or the House

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Oh? I haven't got that yet

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 6:04 PM

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its bound to come up as you get more backstory

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 6:04 PM

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And do you think that Demeter is in Winter mode because nobody knows where the hell Persephone is?

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:04 PM

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guys guys important question does the House have a toilet?

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 6:04 PM

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zag's greekness is the reason why he's not heterosexual

drifting citrus Jul 4, 2020, 6:04 PM

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no

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:04 PM

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where does zag and the gods poop then , aaaaaaaa do they not poop, do they use diapers?

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:05 PM

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I mean i would assume so. Shades dont have an use for it but the gods might?

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 6:05 PM

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im sure they have whatever the ancient greek equivalent of a toilet was

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Can we not talk about god toilets

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:05 PM

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communal toilet, its still a toilet

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Yes, let's not

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 6:05 PM

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well at least theyre not wizards

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:05 PM

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TAtZ

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 6:05 PM

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:)

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knew someone would get that right away

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 6:05 PM

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they have a garden in the house

drifting citrus Jul 4, 2020, 6:06 PM

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ur on a rowl tatz

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 6:06 PM

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oof

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:06 PM

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and no toilets are a very important part of life, the gods would need them. Hades said his house is more functional than olympus, then why does it not have a goddamn toilet, it makes no sense

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i mean no sans

drifting citrus Jul 4, 2020, 6:06 PM

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why do you think there's still a set of doors left

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 6:06 PM

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it probably does but it's broken when Cerberus rampaged through the whole house

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:06 PM

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WELL ZAG DOESNT HAVE TIME TO SLEEP MAYBE HE DOESNT HAVE TIME FOR THAT EITHER

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:07 PM

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THEN WHY THE HELL IS THE TOILET LOCKED

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:07 PM

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MAYBE THERE ARE THINGS YOU AS A PLAYER SHOULDNT SEE THE MC DO

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:07 PM

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I WANNA SEE

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:07 PM

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ITS CALLED PRIVACY

drifting citrus Jul 4, 2020, 6:07 PM

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zag doesn't need to go to the toilet, he gets a new body every time he dies

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:07 PM

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MOST OF HIS LIFE IS MANAGED BY THE NARATOR ALREADY, I JUST WANNA SEE GOD POOP

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 6:07 PM

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well the house is above tartarus... there is a reason why tartarus is so bad

drifting citrus Jul 4, 2020, 6:07 PM

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someone call caitlyn

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 6:07 PM

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They just do it on Asphodel and it all gets burned away

drifting citrus Jul 4, 2020, 6:08 PM

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we need assistance

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:08 PM

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oh cool, no waste management system either

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:08 PM

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@drifting citrus thats interesting tho, does his body just get repaired every time or is it just built anew

solar cove Jul 4, 2020, 6:08 PM

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not sure but i thought the last doors are hades private room

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but i could just imagine things there

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 6:08 PM

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There's a reason why Asphodel isn't the lush meadows like it was in the past

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Cause i doubt he gets incinerated though some of hades' blows might leave his body beyond repair

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:08 PM

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it just float down the styx into the house i think, he dont get a new body

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 6:08 PM

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hades might have a private toilet

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:08 PM

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styx water have regenerative effects

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:09 PM

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I wonder if he remembers something of that voyage

drifting citrus Jul 4, 2020, 6:09 PM

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it's like healing from atla

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but it's blood

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:09 PM

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IS THE STYX THE PISS OF THE GODDESS STYX OR GOD PISS?

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:09 PM

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I wonder if he's afraid he won't wake up one day

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Okay let's back down a bit

drifting citrus Jul 4, 2020, 6:09 PM

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we may be getting a little too rowdy

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rule 2 and all

solar cove Jul 4, 2020, 6:09 PM

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anyone got some water from lethe to forget all this?

drifting citrus Jul 4, 2020, 6:10 PM

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patroclus does

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 6:10 PM

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god i wish

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:10 PM

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no, call hypnos

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:10 PM

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@open berry can you call hypnos

drifting citrus Jul 4, 2020, 6:10 PM

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a nd speaking of patroclus

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:10 PM

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We need lethe water

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 6:10 PM

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wh

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:10 PM

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hypnos' symbol is a branch of poppy dunked in lethe water

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i think

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:10 PM

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~~he lives near its spring in mythology i think?~~

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 6:11 PM

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anyway im going back to whatever i was looking into erosdispleased

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:11 PM

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also this is weird, i just realized

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Ok now all i can see is Hypnos casually swimming in lethe

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Alright guys, I'm going to go for lunch

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 6:11 PM

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gl all

gilded oracle Jul 4, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Have fun and remember: Dusa is the best girl.

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:11 PM

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no

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:11 PM

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No

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 6:11 PM

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no

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i guess

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Dusa is great tho i lov

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First character besides zag i got attached to

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:12 PM

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well shes not exactly the Istar of the game, but i can see why she is poplar

drifting citrus Jul 4, 2020, 6:12 PM

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the lethe got to your brain

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:13 PM

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dont be a Styx in the mud friend

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 6:13 PM

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dusa is a great character and provides a much needed aroace representation

drifting citrus Jul 4, 2020, 6:14 PM

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did you take the ambrosia back y/n

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:14 PM

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y

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 6:14 PM

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yes, for roleplay reasons

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i just think it's polite

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:14 PM

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But only after doing research and being absolutely sure shebwas fine w it

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:14 PM

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y

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i just need titan blood

drifting citrus Jul 4, 2020, 6:15 PM

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she didn't want them and i got my weapons maxed out

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we're all happy

fleet grail Jul 4, 2020, 6:16 PM

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I've been wondering if Cocytus and Acheron will make an appearance in the game. We already have Styx, Phlegethon, and Lethe.

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 6:16 PM

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unlikely

solar cove Jul 4, 2020, 6:16 PM

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its a nice conversation when she 'dropped' one of them and then tried it

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Ive been looking for Acheron the entire game ngl

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:16 PM

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no, i dont think, they are quite obscure and not having many characteristics

solar cove Jul 4, 2020, 6:17 PM

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and its not like id ever need ambrosia

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Do they even have any?

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 6:17 PM

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remind me please what's the deal with acheron

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:17 PM

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@solar cove whats the convo?

solar cove Jul 4, 2020, 6:18 PM

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just something about her having 'accidentally' dropped it and then being happy about having a split tongue so she could taste it twice at the same time

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Awwww

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 6:19 PM

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the river on the surface might be acheron actually

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:20 PM

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That actually makes sense now that im reading about it

fleet grail Jul 4, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Well Acheron and Styx get mixed up a lot in the literature so maybe that's why SGG went with Styx. Cocytus could work in an ice biome but not sure how that would fit into the game's lore

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Oh that could work

atomic forge Jul 4, 2020, 6:22 PM

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On the surface, obviously.

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 6:22 PM

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i think we might see cocytus somewhere around the house

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in the garden maybe

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and yeah, surface river might be acheron alright

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:26 PM

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I want to see the garden so much now

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 6:28 PM

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i'm almost sure it will be important for the ending

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like it's a GARDEN

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sure perse loved it there

eternal breach Jul 4, 2020, 6:28 PM

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PLEASEE

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 6:28 PM

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mb even planted it herself

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also i'm afraid of hades' room being there

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like WHY IS IT THERE

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I'M NOT SURE IF I WANNA GO THERE

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:33 PM

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its a toilet

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are you suere you dont wanna go there?

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 6:34 PM

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flies back in to dropkick shrew off the toilet topic

main flint Jul 4, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Don’t worry, considering how the house looks like when you first start, his rooms will likely have just a bed and a chair lol

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 6:34 PM

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thanks tatz

dense sparrow Jul 4, 2020, 6:34 PM

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shadegrief

main flint Jul 4, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Or a shrine to perse

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 6:35 PM

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saw alma typing, so sorry to you for all the cursed energy here today

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 6:35 PM

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oh hi alma!

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does perse counts as an already added npc?

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i mean officially, like in the roadmap

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 6:39 PM

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not really bc there was only ever one audio for her

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i frankly dont see who else the remaining character can be, bc you cant feasibly add in an entirely brand new character this late in the game's development without them being more endgame

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that + the fact demeter's affection is still locked

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 6:41 PM

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well, the temple of styx doesn't have an npc yet and it might very well be tied to the endgame

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 6:41 PM

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every other olympian can be unlocked now but hers and hades are still locked.

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styx doesnt need an npc

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you dont need more than charon there bc of how the biome is laid out.

frozen jolt Jul 4, 2020, 6:42 PM

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does anyone know if you can get antos from pat or just from achilles?

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 6:43 PM

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i believe it's just achilles

solar cove Jul 4, 2020, 6:43 PM

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in my codex its marked as a gift on achilles hearts

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 6:44 PM

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its from achilles

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but it summons both since you have to reunite them

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achilles says when he gives it to you its from him and pat shadegrin

frozen jolt Jul 4, 2020, 6:45 PM

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ty! just wanted to make sure

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creating the wiki page right now

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 6:46 PM

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yeah we have been slow on that front lol.

plain palm Jul 4, 2020, 6:49 PM

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you know those things where you pick one of two characters a bunch of times and it calculates your fav? i desperately need this thing for hades

open berry Jul 4, 2020, 6:53 PM

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fun fact i wanted to do a hades sorter back in like march

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but as with anything, i have the attention span of a pea and got sidetracked with some other stuff and never revisited it lol

empty inlet Jul 4, 2020, 11:58 PM

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it seems best for this channel, but does anybody know the chances of Tiny Vermin spawning? I assume there's no way to force it to appear, but I'd like to see it at some point

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 12:47 AM

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omg i finally got a title other than the summoner of olympus (might be actually called differently, that's a reverse translation)

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and it was ares' disciple (reverse translation again)

open tiger Jul 5, 2020, 12:48 AM

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probably "Olympus Caller" for the first one, and Disciple is the correct translation

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nicely done ^.^

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 12:49 AM

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oh yeah because of 'call'

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am i using call in my builds really often or it's a common title for everyone?

open tiger Jul 5, 2020, 12:49 AM

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I think it's for using call a lot

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I semi-frequently don't bother with a call, so I don't actually get it that often

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 12:54 AM

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according to administrative chamber i've gotten the caller of olympus more often than any other titles COMBINED

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12 times that is

open tiger Jul 5, 2020, 12:55 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I'll check for myself when I finish this run

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 12:55 AM

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oh gl!

open tiger Jul 5, 2020, 12:55 AM

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danke

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I'm currently recovering my crashed run xD Still had the seed, so I had the same epic flourish start :D

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currently back in Elysium

candid sinew Jul 5, 2020, 1:14 AM

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So is there any benefit to giving Nectar to the gods (Zeus/Ares/etc) after getting their keepsake?

open tiger Jul 5, 2020, 1:15 AM

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narrative progression

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you learn more about the gods, specifically this version of them

analog anvil Jul 5, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Hah. Meg has dialogue if you fight her solo after she does a fight with the other two supporting.

open tiger Jul 5, 2020, 1:32 AM

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@plain palm was there something that shows your totals for each title, or did you actually go through and count it manually?

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 2:15 AM

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manually

bold niche Jul 5, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Than and Meg are both cats
Than is the kind of barncat that is super helpful because he spends the day killing vermin but also wouldn’t hesitate to break a vase
Than is a cat because to befriend than you have to take the same steps as when you befriend a cat
he kept a toy mouse, what else do we need as a proof

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so many interesting convos missed.. from Ares' nature to the unknown areas in the House

open berry Jul 5, 2020, 3:41 AM

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impressed you read that far back

bold niche Jul 5, 2020, 3:42 AM

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what if there was something important and i will never know what it was?

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now i kinda understand Zag, sleeping is not fun

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also, it's interesting.. i've heard before that there is some connection between Hypnos and Lethe.. it actually makes sense

open berry Jul 5, 2020, 3:53 AM

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hypnos has a lot of interesting lore and theres so little of it utilized here lol. whats sad is that hades still has one of the more in depth depictions of hypnos bc he really is just hardly ever used, its always thanatos that gets the attention

bold niche Jul 5, 2020, 4:06 AM

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tfw you're always at background and your brother has all the glory.. and yells at you for being bad at everything

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how can he be so chill..

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or what if he is just tired and burned out

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sleeping is one way to get away from depression, bad thoughts and fears

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just as work.. and for Hypnos it's both

glacial cedar Jul 5, 2020, 7:29 AM

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Whats the voiceline that you think the least people will see?

bold niche Jul 5, 2020, 7:50 AM

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someone's line.. "haven't you tried to awake weapon's aspect for which i've given you the magic words? I shall repeat them then"

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i presume

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 8:08 AM

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I get Olympus Caller a lot

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Cause i dont usually have the patience for a Greater lmao

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 8:20 AM

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probably using full call in a trial? you have to be actively trying for it sometimes

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or rather a lot of the time

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although hermes does help a lot

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 8:26 AM

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I've not played in a while (hoping for a console release after 1.0) but i did think about a concerin I have. With 1.0, obviously, the canon will have us eventualy beat hades. Thing is... how will you contine the replay cycle? Id Zag's quest to find his mother ends, there's no point to escaping over and over. except maybe to spite Hades, which to be fair might be reason enough

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Meanwhile, if you legit can't escape for some other reason then renovation, then Zag is doomed forever to try and that won't be satisfying at all

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I don't see how this goes on to finish while still sllowing for a satisfying ending

crimson temple Jul 5, 2020, 8:30 AM

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My speculation is that the number of bonds forged affects the ending. Meaning there exists a motivation to go for a 'perfect ending' with all bonds in place, thus giving a reason to return to the grind.

bold niche Jul 5, 2020, 8:37 AM

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Zagreus escapes, searching for his mother, then finds her. They talk a lot. Maybe they both will bring spring back to the earth.

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 8:37 AM

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hypnos also gets overshadowed by morpheus a lot in culture, which is really sad

bold niche Jul 5, 2020, 8:38 AM

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and then Narrator is like: happy end and all, but pretend that never happened

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poof, Zag is back and noone knows

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 8:39 AM

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Zag: I got what I came for I suppose. I am content. .... Buuuuuuuuuuuttttttt I do like messing with Father...

bold niche Jul 5, 2020, 8:39 AM

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stabs himself

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 8:39 AM

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unless...?😳

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 8:40 AM

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don't forget he's a blood god

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circulation is kinda his thing

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 8:40 AM

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noooo don’t come back to my house to make trouble ur too sexy aha

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 8:41 AM

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Though for real, I don't see how this ends both with a satisfiying conclusion but also allows for reruns

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 8:41 AM

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ill wait till 1.0 to make any judgement

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 8:41 AM

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i'm sure sgg will figure something out

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already did

bold niche Jul 5, 2020, 8:41 AM

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they had a lot of time to think

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we can only suppose

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 8:42 AM

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and they have the best endings

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like pyre (ending spoilers ahead) ||didn't have a great gameplay ending, no harder than usual final bossfight or anything, but we get to read a lot about every character. it was kinda like a book for me, and made me feel like my actions and choices mattered||

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so i imagine hades might have something like that, not really reflecting on your gameplay experience

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 8:47 AM

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I come in here and i see a pun

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Or well a bad joke

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Im gonna need more arrows

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 8:48 AM

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WHOA THERE

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that wasn't a joke i swear!

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 8:48 AM

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🏹

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 8:48 AM

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You know, this is just a dumb thought of mine, and it's kinda obsolete considering that the pact of punihsment is a thing, but I always kinda wanted a keepsake from Hades that was just kinda worthless or had a secret unlock that made your life hell in some way. Like it took up your slot and was a burden in some way, but you could somehow make it good

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 8:48 AM

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^

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I want a hades keepsage ngl

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 8:49 AM

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circulation is my genuine concern since i've started playing hades, along with double dash sounding like a heartbeat

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 8:49 AM

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hades keepsake where he just teleports behinds you and oneshots you

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 8:49 AM

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Lmao after you give him enough nectars Hades is just like CHAOS ABOVE OKAY TAKE THIS AND DONT BOTHER ME and just gives Zag a stapler or some office item

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 8:49 AM

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well, since i've learned that zag is a god of blood in sgg's canon

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 8:50 AM

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theres something very visceral about bouldy killing a boss because of how sudden the death screen is

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 8:50 AM

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||and life||

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 8:51 AM

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My thought for his keepsake was it offers no bonus and you need to keep it the entire run, and when you reach Hades and beat him twice it unlocks his full power or something and he becomes a badass maybe giant third form to fight. And if you beat that, then he begrdingly makes the artifacvt do something useful.

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 8:51 AM

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Skull stapler. From: Hades. Does nothing and occassionaly you staple yourself on it

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 8:52 AM

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also about ending: don't forget we should get one more boss variant in 1.0

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 8:52 AM

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wait what

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 8:52 AM

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Hades also gave Zag a pen for his birthday because he forgot about the birthday and was searching his desk for something he could give to avoid Nyx incinerating all of his internal organs

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 8:53 AM

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roadmap says that
i'm not sure actually how they count boss variants, are they the fury sisters or the extreme measures

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 8:53 AM

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there's a roadmap?

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for 1.0 specificaly?

frozen jolt Jul 5, 2020, 8:54 AM

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i would guess its EM hades... thanthink

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 8:54 AM

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Oh sweet jesus

frozen jolt Jul 5, 2020, 8:54 AM

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wonder how that would look like

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 8:54 AM

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so zag forces hades to pay himself with the pact

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 8:55 AM

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I got to imagine they go full god of war and he gets BIG. Why even have that pool if not gor a giant form

frozen jolt Jul 5, 2020, 8:55 AM

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yes, you can access the roadmap by clicking the "countdown" to the next update on the bottom right in the main menu in game

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 8:55 AM

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you get up to the surface and hades is holding two spears now

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 8:55 AM

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t-posing

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 8:56 AM

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The only change is that he doesnt have a beard

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 8:56 AM

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you get up to the surface and hades says “let me show you why my version of varatha has that range”

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and all his attacks cover the arena

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 8:56 AM

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BTW unrelated question: i watch a video of someone beating charon, what does that do and can you fight hom more for more stuff

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 8:57 AM

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gives you 20% discount on every thing for the run

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and no

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you also get some coin

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 8:57 AM

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Is it just for that run or all runs after

frozen jolt Jul 5, 2020, 8:57 AM

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just for that run

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 8:57 AM

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that run

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 8:57 AM

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ooof

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 8:57 AM

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but everything is everything

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up to the blood in styx

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 8:58 AM

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Yeah but it seems like beating him is rather rough

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 8:58 AM

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not really just learn to time it and its not so bad

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or just run away the whole time

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his ranged options are really slow

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but this probably belongs in the combat channel

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 8:58 AM

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i would actually like to have more discount for beating charon in tartarus... and less for doing it in elysium

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 8:58 AM

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i love the charon theme though

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you do get more discount in the sense that you have more time to use it

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 8:59 AM

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How many diamonds is the ||patroclus and achilles reunion thingy||

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 8:59 AM

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oh yeah my economics are terrible

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 9:00 AM

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i wonder how nyx got shady in bouldy

frozen jolt Jul 5, 2020, 9:00 AM

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||7 iirc?||

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 9:00 AM

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did she like chisel a hole into bouldy

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and just put shady inside

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 9:00 AM

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Time to go on a lernie slaughtering rampage

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 9:00 AM

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its a pretty funny mental image ngl

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 9:00 AM

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ran it for 30 seconds to see the roamap and my laptop sounded like it was going to explode. Yep, waiting for other platforms

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 9:00 AM

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residentzag

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 9:03 AM

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ive always had the feeling that zag isnt actually a god

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since hades says to tell no one about his nature

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like im almost half sure hes a titan

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 9:03 AM

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then perse isn't as well

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 9:04 AM

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because titan blood is red

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and so is zag’s

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 9:04 AM

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How would he be a titan though

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 9:04 AM

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hell if i know

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 9:04 AM

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He's the god of blood and life, and is 1/4 mortal, thats where it comes from imo

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 9:04 AM

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but it doesnt make sense that hades is so cautious about making sure the olympians dont know who zag reallt is

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 9:06 AM

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this might be more about perse than zag

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woah

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 9:07 AM

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Oh right yeahm forgot that was a thing

crimson temple Jul 5, 2020, 9:08 AM

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I agree. Demeter has turned the surface into a wasteland because of her missing daughter, and Hades wants to hide his responsibility for said daughter's disappearance.

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 9:08 AM

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yeah, the olympians don't know where she went still

crimson temple Jul 5, 2020, 9:10 AM

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Nyx on the other hand stays silent on the matter because of some personal agreement with Persephone, which contents will probably be disclosed with the completed story.

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 9:12 AM

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theres also the other thing where perse letter doesnt mention zag

crimson temple Jul 5, 2020, 9:13 AM

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True, that is a plot hook waiting for a twist.

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 9:15 AM

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Oh god dammit

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Heroic strong drink gives + 0% boost

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F10'd it but im still :c

crimson temple Jul 5, 2020, 9:16 AM

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Does the full heal work at least? Also, probably wrong channel

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 9:18 AM

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but yeah i feel like the whole persephone thing is a red herring setting up for a titan twist

crimson temple Jul 5, 2020, 9:19 AM

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thanthink

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 9:20 AM

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maybe im giving sg too much credit though

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 9:22 AM

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what if perse doesn't know about zag

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 9:22 AM

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??

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so youre suggesting hades mpreg?

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 9:23 AM

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something like hades pretending to kill/set free the red-blooded child

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and secretly keeping him

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the problem with zag not being a son of persephone is their presumable resemblance

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 9:26 AM

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lol imagine if zag goes up to the surface and finds out he looks nothing like persephone

dense sparrow Jul 5, 2020, 9:29 AM

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a child needs not look like its parents

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 9:32 AM

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it could also be that persephone was pregnant when she wrote the letter and zag died when he was a baby and crawled out of the styx thanthink

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 9:34 AM

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hades got it on with a titan which is why persephone left, and zag is the result

dense sparrow Jul 5, 2020, 9:34 AM

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it cant be, baby gods and demigods cant die, look at mr wine dude

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 9:34 AM

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😳

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 9:34 AM

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zag dies all the time xD

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 9:35 AM

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we kill hades all the time

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 9:35 AM

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given that his theme is rebirth it'd be fitting tbh

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 9:35 AM

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hades is an allegory for the final dlc for the binding of isaac rebirth

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 9:36 AM

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never played that so i can't comment on that xD

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but it's mentioned how much zag is like persephone

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quite a few times

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 9:36 AM

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there is no escape, much like how repentance will never come out

dense sparrow Jul 5, 2020, 9:36 AM

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wdym? after birth?

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 9:40 AM

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wow zag being born and dying on the surface as a child is a really cool theory

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 9:41 AM

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uwu

plain palm Jul 5, 2020, 9:43 AM

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and yeah, of course he can't escape if he's dead for reals

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and of course he tries, he's zag

ashen latch Jul 5, 2020, 9:50 AM

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Tbh seeing as they have Sisyphus in this game I don’t know if that exactly would hold up

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Part of his story involved intentionally asking his wife to improperly dispose of his body, persuading Persephone or Hades (depending on version) to return to the land of the living to scold his wife

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Sisyphus refused to not only return but he continued to live

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Until Hermes forcibly dragged him down

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 9:52 AM

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i wouldn't say he's dead for real tbh, he just got reborn/climbed out of the styx

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like that's just sth gods seem to do

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but that's my hc why persephone didn't mention him and zag is in the underworld

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~~until v 1.0 blows it all to pieces~~

ashen latch Jul 5, 2020, 9:53 AM

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Inb4 this was all story time on Olympus

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 9:54 AM

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I have a question that I would like to know the answer of but don't think we do: does anyone know/figure out what the deal with Skelly is? Every time a option comes up to who he works for or how he got here it gets tossed out just as quick. WHAT ARE YOU SKELETON MAN

ashen latch Jul 5, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Take his trinket to Hermes

dense sparrow Jul 5, 2020, 9:55 AM

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he is schelemeus, a sea captain

ashen latch Jul 5, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Greatest Captain any Greek Navy ever saw

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It took Charybdis itself to sink his fleet

dense sparrow Jul 5, 2020, 9:56 AM

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well, he should have picked Scylla tbh

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Yeah, but... why is he helping you

ashen latch Jul 5, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Take his Trinket to Hermes

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And you learn who his employer is

dense sparrow Jul 5, 2020, 9:56 AM

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oh really?

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 9:57 AM

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yep

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 9:57 AM

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Can someone spoiler tag it for me? Like ||this||

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 9:57 AM

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he's working for ||charon||

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 9:57 AM

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Ah I see

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Do we know why?

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 9:58 AM

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nope

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 9:58 AM

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Fair enough

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 9:58 AM

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itsa mystery

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 9:59 AM

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To be fair, i all clicks into place now considerinhg that ||skelly has a dold coin where his tongue is||

dense sparrow Jul 5, 2020, 9:59 AM

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all dead greeks have that, its a custom

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 9:59 AM

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Yeah but noone else in game has it

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 10:00 AM

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yeah, but it explains why he stil has it

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after arriving in the underworld

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he got paid to shut up

ashen latch Jul 5, 2020, 10:00 AM

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^

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Charon takes it as payment normally

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This little shade got extra

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Tbh maybe that’s why Zag never gets a ride

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He never asked if he could rent the boat

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 10:01 AM

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he does

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he asks charon if he'd let him if he paid enough

ashen latch Jul 5, 2020, 10:02 AM

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Damn, that’s one pricy boat

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Either that or he values his job too much

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 10:03 AM

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well he does help out with the shop

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but hades couldn t fire him if he tried i think

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there's no underworld without charon

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(as than puts it)

ancient mesa Jul 5, 2020, 10:03 AM

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How many thousands of Obols do I gotta pay that nerd to hitch a ride dang

dense sparrow Jul 5, 2020, 10:04 AM

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charon is the son of nyx, nyx is the true owner of the realm, so he cant be fired tbh

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 10:04 AM

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at least three

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 10:04 AM

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Hades Can't fire Charon, but he can make his life uncodfrtable in other ways, like a obel tax

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 10:04 AM

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charon could beat hades' booty

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the true reason hades doesn't do anything

ashen latch Jul 5, 2020, 10:05 AM

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Charon got legit gainz

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The dude is buff from millennia of rowing

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 10:05 AM

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spear aspect

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 10:05 AM

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Although, considering that nugget of info you just told me, maybe Charon has another non obel related reason for not giving zag a easy way out

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 10:05 AM

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aspect of charon

ancient mesa Jul 5, 2020, 10:05 AM

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He's all upper body strength from rowing a boat

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Aim for the legs

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 10:05 AM

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its obol btw not obel

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and charon doesnt have legs

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he floats

ancient mesa Jul 5, 2020, 10:06 AM

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Frig

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He's invincible

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 10:06 AM

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tbh hermes mentions that there's some rules even he can't break

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so maybe that applies to charon too

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otherwise why would you be fighting if you have so many gods on your side

ancient mesa Jul 5, 2020, 10:12 AM

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Unrelated but, I saw someone here mentioning something about Hypnos wanting an autograph from ||Asterius|| but he hasnt mentioned anything of the sort about it to me. Do I gotta ||die to the bull a bunch of times|| specifically to trigger that or what?

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Dunno if I actually needed to spoiler that or not but w/e

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 10:12 AM

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yeah you have to die a few times

ancient mesa Jul 5, 2020, 10:13 AM

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Huh, wonder why that didnt trigger when I was first starting out then

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Dude used to wipe the floor with me every time

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 10:13 AM

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you might have had other dialoge with hypnos

ancient mesa Jul 5, 2020, 10:14 AM

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Oh maybe

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Probably

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 10:18 AM

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I've not watched further then this but watching videos on the update and i'm loving how ||So far Zag seems to be ending up tearing the tagteam of thesis and asterious apart||

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I'm sure they will fix it probably but it's funny

ancient mesa Jul 5, 2020, 10:21 AM

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Man, I haven't seen anything of that yet, the only change I've seen is ||one lone red shade in the audience with a Zag banner||

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 10:22 AM

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Basicaly from what i seen of videos, ||Asterious eventualy develops respect for Zag, thesis doesn't, and with a bit of talking/prodding from zag over runs they squabble and fall out about it||

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Remains to be seen if they fix or or stay that way

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 10:24 AM

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they ||fix it sorta||

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but the drama

ancient mesa Jul 5, 2020, 10:25 AM

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Does that ||change the fight at all?||

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 10:25 AM

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||Fight stays the same far as i've seen||

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 10:25 AM

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||why are we spoilering in the spoiler channel||

ancient mesa Jul 5, 2020, 10:25 AM

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||I dunno, it just seemed polite||

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 10:26 AM

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Just of curiosity, how do they fix it?

ancient mesa Jul 5, 2020, 10:26 AM

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With a screwdriver maybe?

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Or some tape

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 10:32 AM

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they just kinda talk about it? mostly theseus is being super dramatic

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as per usual

ashen latch Jul 5, 2020, 10:34 AM

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Theseus is on that drama kid energy

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He’s gotten the lead role 2 years straight and is aiming for a 3rd

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 10:36 AM

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I kinda want him to get over his hatred of zag tbh and just play it up for the crowd instead. but i think that's never gonna happen

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In a game with characters who change over time he seems very... static in that approach

prime mulch Jul 5, 2020, 11:16 AM

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i mean if im a mythical king ill probably do the same

thorn compass Jul 5, 2020, 11:18 AM

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I feel like Hades' relation status is going to be binary
He either hates Zag or not.

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the question is how

prime mulch Jul 5, 2020, 11:22 AM

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just wait for the ending i guess

thorn compass Jul 5, 2020, 11:22 AM

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you're right

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I wonder...

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nvm

bold niche Jul 5, 2020, 11:24 AM

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i don't really think Hades simply hated Zag, it's just a lack of empathy from him.. a common thing for abusive parents, disregard and indignity.. he sees his child to be something else that he and only he wants, and gets mad every time Zag fails to meet his expectations..

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~~Thesis ~~ Theseus on the other hand does hate him and see as a threat to his own glory. He will never accept his weakness and futility of his fights, because it takes more than common sense for him

prime mulch Jul 5, 2020, 11:26 AM

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Hades is pretty much very insistent on doing his job, even when nyx first met him. So for him, the value of someone purey on their work efficiency

thorn compass Jul 5, 2020, 11:32 AM

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fair

rapid vault Jul 5, 2020, 12:24 PM

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is beat charon twice prophecy bugged? I killed him twice, not successive runs but didnt have lost battle in between and prophecy didn't complete

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 12:44 PM

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Maybe you gotta talk to hermes after doing that?

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Sorta like you gotta talk to posei after the ||beat em3 theseus|| prophecy

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Which was funny because when i was completing that, Theseus called upon Poseidon.

fickle comet Jul 5, 2020, 12:46 PM

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He just wanted to watch the show.

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 12:48 PM

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Honestly can't blame him because my first em3 was a hot mess

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Theseus crashed into a pillar, bugged out, and wouldn't do anything

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He was just shooting the wall and screaming

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I had to unclip him so i was just skiddadling around him hitting him from different angles

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Amd all i could imagine was Zag being like, uh, you okay there mate?

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Then i unclipped him and immediately got hit. The ungratefulness

wispy tusk Jul 5, 2020, 2:18 PM

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I just beat Lernie 😂

primal cipher Jul 5, 2020, 2:18 PM

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Whenever I get Aphrodite's call my favourite thing is to make theseus kill the bull (or vice versa) shadesmile

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Haha Lernie is the best secret boss

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 2:25 PM

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I wish i could choose which em's to fight

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I don't wanna do em 1

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I don't wanna torment megaera like that

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She's so uncomfortable every time and i swear when i had ||Alecto tell ask her if shes seriously going soft for the trash god|| i swear her tone of voice was,,,, on verge

open berry Jul 5, 2020, 3:51 PM

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on the same token meg is well aware of how her sisters act, more so than the player

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meg would prob be more offended if zag did anything that any of the sisters took as 'meg can't handle this herself so let me help' though, to be frank

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she's got her own pride, and she's already told zag off for being nosy about her relationship with her sisters

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so ultimately I'd say don't feel too bad for her, bc she'd honestly probably hate it lol

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can't believe there was theseus discussion I wasn't involved in that wasn't just hating on him, incredible zaglol

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 4:21 PM

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I mean, I just reckon that everyone except Hades and Thesieus kinda evolves throughout the game, Hades can't because anything for him will priobably be 1.0, but theseus just, like, needs to chill.

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only other static char is bone hydra, and that's because he don't talk at all and is just a obstacle

open berry Jul 5, 2020, 4:23 PM

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@indigo sable no image yet because we dont have raw image renders https://hades.gamepedia.com/Companion_Antos

Hades Wiki

Companion Antos

Companion Antos is obtained by reaching a high level of trust with Achilles, and then gifting him Ambrosia.
Using Antos in battle will summon Achilles and Patroclus to aid you. they will appear briefly and deal 1500 damage to 2 foes one after the other.
Antos cannot be used ou...

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 4:23 PM

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I'm not even sure how Thesis would evolve anyway, his entire sthick seems to be "Hate Zag"

open berry Jul 5, 2020, 4:24 PM

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oh ingame he'll never be anything more than that, because the devs intended to keep foes as just that, foes.

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here https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/477164376496013323/693150487096197131

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 4:25 PM

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I mean, He does not need to be friended, but he needs, like SOMETHING. All he has are "He's friends with bull and hates Zag"

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Everyone else has something, even the sisters have their damaged relationship with meg

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only giuy with less then him is bone hydra

open berry Jul 5, 2020, 4:27 PM

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lmao did you miss hypnos? his only role is glorified door greeter that sometimes interacts with other people but the house largely finds him annoying and lazy

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many of the characters are fleshed out but there are a couple that have some lacking narrative

clear oracle Jul 5, 2020, 4:28 PM

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I have seen more Hypnos jokes in gameplay channels than most other characters tbh. Maybe Hades or Banatos jokes can outnumber Hypnos jokes, but still a toss up imo.

open berry Jul 5, 2020, 4:29 PM

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i dont lurk in the gameplay channel so i have no context if you mean good or bad jokes lmao. its just that compared to the other characters zag befriends, hypnos is rather hollow

lunar kiln Jul 5, 2020, 4:29 PM

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someone hasnt finished hypnos' subplot

open berry Jul 5, 2020, 4:30 PM

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he doesnt get much characterization at all since most of his content is death quips

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i know all about it actually

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and my point still stands

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bold of you to assume one of the most vocal hypnos defenders would not know about his subplot with than

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 4:30 PM

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what is his plot

hardy obsidian Jul 5, 2020, 4:31 PM

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@dense fox try getting to the theseus fight while carrying a Thread of Ariadne charon's well item

lunar kiln Jul 5, 2020, 4:31 PM

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you help him get his stuff together and actually work properly

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well "help" it's just talking

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 4:32 PM

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his worth as a person shouldn't just be tied to his productivity tho

lunar kiln Jul 5, 2020, 4:32 PM

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true

open berry Jul 5, 2020, 4:32 PM

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my problem with it is that it starts off with zag admitting hes mean to hypnos, like... for what? why is this character who consistently goes out of his way to help everyone else fix their problems admitting hes mean to someone whose greatest crime is... being a little sarcastic? sleeping more than he should because he's literally sleep incarnate? what?

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 4:32 PM

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I recall reading in Tv Tropes that for some reason a codex implied that Theseus was for some reason different in death then he was in life. If there anything on that more? Could be a interesting angle for him without making him a good guy

lunar kiln Jul 5, 2020, 4:33 PM

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ohh i see your point

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 4:34 PM

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I always just assumed between that and him befriending a lost asterious that ||Theseus gave the more noble part of his soul to the bull or something|| but never found hard confirmation on that

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 4:35 PM

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oh i would not like that tbh

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i think his fame just got to his head

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it's not that he's necessarily a bad guy, he just doesn't know who zag is

open berry Jul 5, 2020, 4:36 PM

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think about it, what else is there to do in elysium other than fight for meaningless glory? i thin in that respect its reasonable for theseus to end up the way he is

dense sparrow Jul 5, 2020, 4:36 PM

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that would reduce the worth of asterius, but i wonder if that is true, i mean in the myths the bull ate people. so how come he came from a anthropophage savage to a quite reasonable bull-man-thing

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 4:37 PM

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well if it wasnt for hypnos

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zag wouldnt have been able to find out perse is his mom

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 4:37 PM

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to be fair tho, i'm not sure how many different diets they tried

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with their bull-child

dense sparrow Jul 5, 2020, 4:37 PM

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being kept in a labyrinth 24/24 must drive asterius crazy, so he should be insane or something

wet palm Jul 5, 2020, 4:37 PM

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In Stephen Fry’s Heroes, the Minotaur is portrayed as something of a lost soul that wants to die, and thanks Theseus on his death for killing him

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 4:38 PM

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I'm going to note that i did not mean that in a way to diminish either char, it's more of a case of "Minotuar was in hell kinda, thesis gave a bit of himself to save his butt, there's still most of him left but it's a bit addeled. it raise one up a bit and lowered the other a bit, but not by MUCH"

open berry Jul 5, 2020, 4:39 PM

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@jade slate hypnos: puts the house to sleep on zag's request so zag can snoop in his father's paperwork and thus find out who is mother is
zag: never thanked him, says hes mean to hypnos a lot

i love this game and i love much of the characterization but so many of the choices around hypnos make no sense

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Either that or Theseis knows damm well who Zag is and jiust plays up the hate for the crowd heel/face style

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Nah

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I dont think thats it

jade slate Jul 5, 2020, 4:40 PM

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theseus is just a ham

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 4:40 PM

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I just think theseus chugs himbo juice every morning

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 4:40 PM

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yep

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theseus literally says he doesn't think zag is royalty (in response to asterius)

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Zag:
Zag:
Zag: how much brighter does my laurel need to be

open berry Jul 5, 2020, 4:41 PM

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zag: the gods help me because im related to them
theseus: this DEMON would lie to my face, can you believe the nerve asterius!
zag: anyway,

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 4:41 PM

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theseus is so great just bc he's so dumb

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 4:42 PM

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I cant believe this man got through the labyrinth of crete

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 4:42 PM

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well

dense fox Jul 5, 2020, 4:42 PM

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I dunno, i guess i just want more to him then "dumb himbo makes friend with bull, hates zag"

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 4:42 PM

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I want

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 4:42 PM

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it wasnt bc he had a smart idea arti

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 4:42 PM

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I want to befriend theseus

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 4:42 PM

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same

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i want him to find out who he's really trying to be in the way of

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 4:43 PM

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I want theseus to start to fall for zag in terms of friendship and stubbornly be in denial for about 150 years

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 4:43 PM

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i don't think his morals could take it

open berry Jul 5, 2020, 4:43 PM

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chokes on my lunch thank you

vapid parcel Jul 5, 2020, 4:43 PM

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agshdhdhf

eternal breach Jul 5, 2020, 4:43 PM

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You got it pal :+1: