my point is I should switch ti up for fists
#h1-story-discussion
lucid pawn
jagged goblet
yea
fervent skiff
200%?
lucid pawn
but for shield, Zeus is amaing
fervent skiff
Is that number right?
lucid pawn
yeah, shield base is 15 damage
jagged goblet
shield hits for 15
lyric urchin
Guan Yu is maxed
lucid pawn
so Zeus adds 30
jagged goblet
yea
lucid pawn
that's +200%
lucid pawn
Yeah
fervent skiff
Which aspect?
lyric urchin
It's tripling the damage so 300% increase
jagged goblet
any except chaos probably
lucid pawn
Oh, right, 300%
you're right I'
I'm low :p
Zeus Shield is still my easiest clear by a lot
Zeus special, Hermes Special speed boost, and the Hammer that gives +50 damage when it returns
those three boons on their own are enough to clear
jagged goblet
does the 50 dmg gets scaled too?
lucid pawn
take every pom of power you find along the way
lucid pawn
It doesn't, but it is another static boost
jagged goblet
yea ok
lucid pawn
and when you're chaingunning the shield it adds up
I had Heroic Zeus at Level 13 from poms
things just melted
lyric urchin
Almost max the keepsakes
lucid pawn
Also, I'm very sad that after getting back together with Meg, Zag's comment on the gaming table is still "No player two"
I really want a slightly-peeved slightly-bemused Meg just humoring him for a game or two
Possibly followed by stomping him into the ground on whatever game it is
atomic forge
Zag has never found her more beautiful
lucid pawn
Speaking of Zeus Shielding....
lyric urchin
Hmm, I'm kind of sad the darkness amount or the other permanent items drops get buffed in later heat levels
hollow mortar
Ohey, decent build so far. You can do it 
lucid pawn
Just cleared Elysium
still averaging a 4 minute clear per zone
Or, slightly under
Took four paths to find the satyr sack... but still cleared in 18 minutes
Didn't even bother moving on final boss, just stood there and spammed Q; he died way faster than I did :p
hollow mortar
Zeus loves you 💛
lucid pawn
And my Captain America build loves him 😄
So far I feel like Full Zeus is good for shield, Full Aphrodite is good for... almost everything else, and the other gods I only like using for their passive non-ability buffs.
Also, I feel like if I clear at a higher-than-necessary heat, it should clear all lower heats as well
it seems a bit silly to have to rerun it at 1-heat increments
atomic forge
There's a great deal of story progression that gets done over a large number of runs.
lucid pawn
Also, in case you were wondering, 95% trap resistance lets you casually walk on lava for a solid 5 seconds before it hurts
If that was a thing you wanted to do
atomic forge
Yeah, I knew.
Sure Footing was pocket S+++ when Heightened Security went to +800%.
And people said Extreme Measures was too hard.
eternal breach
Heightened Security +800%: ever wanted to know what it would feel like if YOU stepped on those traps instead of Zag?
atomic forge
Axes in Styx and Hades's vases dealing a strictly casual 270 damage.
eternal breach
They aren't called a guillotine for no reason after all
Yeah thats probably what it should feel like when a huge axe falls on you
lucid pawn
When it's too awkward to talk face to face: https://i.imgur.com/tsQ5qxC.png
(It turns out you can indeed get hit - and moved - by traps mid conversation)
eternal breach
Zag: tha-
Thanatos: OH LOOK ENEMIES ARE SPAWNING
lucid pawn
...also, I just realized ten minutes later that I totally missed the fishing spot visible in that picture >_<
hollow mortar
|| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/608403611151761438/710400360925233153/HADES.png ||
I love this storyline so much 
lucid pawn
Hmm
Captain America build just cleared the final zone in 3:18:21
I think I did okay on that seven minute timer
north garden
hello i just wanted to share my favorite run ever, had privilege status at 40% so all the status effects just STACKED and did some ridiculous damage; dionysus/zeus/ares/aphrodite. Also it was hilarious to watch Hades get charmed by a full charge Epic Aphrodite Aid, twice.
Ah, for some reason my screenshot won't send, which is a shame. Here's all my boons tho:
Zeus: Thunder Dash LV.3, High Voltage LV.2, Double Strike LV.2, Splitting Bolt, Static Discharge
Dio: Drunken Flourish LV.2, Drunken Strike
Aphr: Crush Shot, Aphrodite's Aid
Hermes: Greatest Reflex, Greater Haste
Ares: Urge to Kill
dense sparrow
playing zeus but only dash
thorn compass
Young is relative for Greek gods
thorn compass
Night and War
thorny surge
Ares: god of war and stealing your wife
thorn compass
Erebus: Angery as fook
unreal seal
Bruh i got nothing this run lmao
Also
I had thought that no one will have any recollection that you won
because the first time i won after thanatos aided me, he said i didnt get out
and also Hades didnt acknowledge it
but i think he was just joshing me
thorny surge
shame you didn't get athena/ares, would have been great with triple bomb
unreal seal
Yeah i didnt find a single athena
the rawket lawnchur triple
though the lobbed version might be more powerful due to the travel time
open berry
@thorny surge funnily nyx takes the entire... I think the exchange goes back and forth about like 5-6 times, but anyway nyx takes it as ares being inquisitive about the chthonic gods and disregards how blatantly thirsty ares is through it all
despite the fact nyx isn't worried about any of it like zag is lmao, I do think it's like one of the legitimately good things that comes out of it, is the confirmation that ares is indeed more willing to give the chthonic gods the time of day than the other olympians are. fits him, really.
thorny surge
yeah
i'd assume he'd have some amount of interest about where do the people he's directly responsible for go
he does seem to have a bit of a morbid streak
ancient sentinel
I don't know if this can be known without data mining, but is each unlocked deity guaranteed to spawn in a run? (Reason we can't know without mining is some might spawn in a shop you never go in and thus never find out one is there.)
junior field
it's random
you're more likely to see the few you get early on, but you could always force em using the god keepsakes
ancient sentinel
I know Chaos is random and Hermes is 2x.
junior field
Chaos is entirely random, you could see 0 gates
if you want a particular god, the best approach is to just use their keepsake
ancient sentinel
That's not why I was asking.
unreal seal
the answer is that its not guaranteed
ancient sentinel
Cerberus companion when? :p
junior field
he can't abandon his post (unless you've got the rats)
ancient sentinel
He spends half his time sitting next to Hades. :p
supple dagger
I wouldn't mind a fic that has Nyx actively playing with Ares' affection before Aphrodite takes notice.
Actually, that just now made me wish Chthonic gods were included in boon randomization... Nyx x Ares duo boon.
open berry
im honestly wondering if sgg has written out ares/aphrodite like any other questionable aspects of greek myth bc theres really no references to a relationship between them. aphrodite makes a couple sympathetic comments about ares but thats about it.
its only a shame bc i would love to see deimos and phobos in sgg style, since theyre supposed to be wild, sharp toothed lads
clear oracle
I'm just sitting here wondering what Hera is doing after all this time.
I get that Demeter is in the game since ||she plays a large role in the frozen surface and Persiphone is her kidnapped daughter||.
But no Hera is ???
open berry
i think hera is not involved bc rewriting her to not have such a problematic history while being involved with the narrative is kind of a mini nightmare
atomic forge
Hera isn't a relevant figure when concentrating on Chthonic mythology.
The booning Olympians only just barely straddle the line between minor and major characters.
open berry
i think people forget that not all of the gods are meant to be represented
clear oracle
I understand that. But Hera is a prominent figure that I can't help but raise the question.
open berry
i do sort of wish hermes had more commentary about the underworld since he does have chthonic origins but his extra commentary about trinkets and time limit and stuff are pretty nice
clear oracle
If going by relationship to Chthonic Gods then what is Artemis doing here.
atomic forge
I'm assuming the exact choices of who is a present character was tied to gameplay.
open berry
whats considered "relevant" is determined by sgg and what they want to focus the story on
clear oracle
Fair enough. Maybe I'm too uptight with this whole thing.
flat shell
I thnik Demeter does mention Hera and Hestia not residing on Olympus because of a disagreement or something, but that's only in-universe explaination. Out of universe, just a creative choice, probably.
open berry
also tbh theres really an endless list of 'i wish [god or hero name] was in the game' haha like, perseus in relation to dusa, ect
we just simply cant have it all
atomic forge
I still hope for the day that SGG has become an effectively AAA company but they keep every ounce of integrity they have in their games right now.
clear oracle
Are they AAA?
atomic forge
They're indie, A or AA at most.
clear oracle
Yeah. Although Hades seems to be the biggest and most welknown project so far.
flat shell
Bastion felt WAY bigger when it was fresh.
atomic forge
They're still a studio with like, 20 people.
flat shell
And it still holds as well remembered by a lot fo the gaming community.
biggest, though, I agree. They've got a lot more room to work with now.
i screwed up, I meant to mention that Bastion was well known, not... Words hard
clear oracle
Does anyone want to hazard a guess on how the story ends?
With Persephone and what not.
open berry
bastion felt bigger bc it was published by wb, i remember a lot of people back then were arguing about 'can you really consider this an indie title when its published by wb'
clear oracle
Developer and publisher are two different things. So yeah, Bastion is indie?
The same way that No Man's Sky is an indie title and published by Sony and asked for AAA price
open berry
yeah bastion is indie, supergiant is indie. im just saying it was an argument back when bastion released as to whether the game could be considered indie or not bc it was backed by a large studio like wb
everything after bastion was published by supergiant themselves
rancid vine
weren't bastion publishing by warner bros.?
open berry
wb = warner bros, friend
rancid vine
sorry m8 just got here
clear oracle
Anyhow, I bet that at launch, the story ends with the frozen ground thawing and grass starts to grow. Symbolizing Persiphone present. Zag walks pass the gate, he hears Persiphone voice and the game ends with a white screen.
atomic forge
We've been told that the game will have a happier ending than the very bittersweet endings their games have so far had.
clear oracle
Oh that's good to know.
open berry
we dont know what "happier" means in this case though 😂 happier than the usual ending angst is how happy, exactly?
atomic forge
Probably not ending with the end of the world/||suicide||?
clear oracle
I think Red is just lazy. ||Rebuilding the world? Nah I'll just go into the sword world instead.||
drifting citrus
||revolution|| is possible
atomic forge
Yeah, but people are still being left behind.
||You can never free every Nightwing, much less all the people who also deserve to make it back up the Falls.||
atomic forge
So, when you snub Artemis in a trial, she calls you a half-god or lesser god or some other permutation of the insult.
Olympus still thinks you're Nyx's child.
nova spoke
yeah, that was a bit disappointing.
atomic forge
Nyx is acknowledged several times by Chthonians as Hades's equal, including by Hades himself.
last furnace
Yeah Nyx mentione that - she says they only know what they need too
nova spoke
outside of Trials, she seems like the perfect gf material
last furnace
I don't think they consider her a full god though - nyx is closer to chaos than the gods
atomic forge
Yes, but equal in strength/stature, just not origin.
That does have me worried about the endgame.
I already think there's going to be a confrontation with Demeter.
nova spoke
isn't Nyx a primordial? like Morpheus, Death and Chaos?
last furnace
Imagine if they make the end game you facing a random god that you have the boon of
Like they feel that betrayed they turn on you
And oh yeah - demeter definitely gonna find out about persephone
nova spoke
it's Supergiant Games game so I fully expect the ending to be anywhere from soul crushing to melancholic to bitersweet
then again, I haven't played Pyre. Maybe that one had a proper happy ending
atomic forge
It's still bittersweet, but they've gone on the record that Hades's ending will be happier.
last furnace
I heard pyres ending was pretty cool - havent played it yet but i watched the noclip doc on it
atomic forge
There will still be bittersweetness, but it won't be bawling over the credits of Transistor while Paper Boats plays.
last furnace
Transistor ending... that hit me so hard
nova spoke
Maybe it was the music but the true ending of Bastion was felt pretty sad as well.
last furnace
The song
atomic forge
Bastion would have an outright happy ending if the world weren't destroyed.
nova spoke
yeah
atomic forge
Setting Sail, Coming Home is about as good as the world could have become at that point.
open berry
nyx is regarded as an equal to hades, yes, but the olympian gods regard chthonic gods as "lesser" in general, this is implied repeatedly.
opal kraken
Maxed out Aspect of Zeus
Also the gods seem really excited about Zag wouldn't they consider him a "main" god since his father is Hades?
atomic forge
See, that's what's also got me on edge. He's 3/4 Olympian, 1/4 mortal.
nova spoke
they don't know about 1/4 part
thorny surge
that's the weird bit
even their dialogue treat zagreus as a minor god
guess the green eye is a dead giveaway
pun unintended
thorny surge
even the furies seem to treat him as such in all fairness, and they don't know about persephone being his mother either iirc
nocturne sandal
Zag is not mortal?
thorny surge
no
atomic forge
Why wouldn't they know about the 1/4? Do they not know Demeter's family history?
thorny surge
yes but alecto doesn't, and she's the one that calls you godling and taunts you because of your red blood
woeful sinew
aahh
mystic mortar
Zag is not mortal?
@nocturne sandal He gets killed all the time. mortals die once.
thorny surge
because zag being persephone's son isn't common knowledge
not even Thanatos knew and he was around when persephone was with Hades
atomic forge
Sorry, I misread something.
woeful sinew
yeah i’d reckon since alecto and tis aren’t allowed in the house, they wouldn’t know like meg
atomic forge
Once they find out he's not a full god but has mortal blood, is that better or worse?
nova spoke
Tisiphone has the best dialogue of the Furies
thorny surge
oh yeah a lot of lightbulbs are gonna fire up when they know who their mother is
deffo
woeful sinew
X,D
atomic forge
Really, only 2nd in the game to Charon.
thorny surge
or well, candles
lightbulbs don't seem to be a thing yet
woeful sinew
one day one of thems gonna pull a profound oneliner, i can feel it in the comedy
nova spoke
I wish Charon was more chatty. I'm only at around 40 escape attempts and he only talks to me if I give him Nectar
open berry
charon will get content in next month's update
thorny surge
anyway back to it
even if they don't know who zagreus' real mother is, knowledge of him not being a full-on god seems to be common-ish
him bleeding blood and not ichor is a dead giveaway, and his heterochromia does make him stand out even if he's the son that resembles hades the most amusingly enough
seriously, zagreus is basically hades but younger and with a green eye appereance-wise
woeful sinew
i’m still waiting for the day i stumble into that sprite edit of zag’s eyes
supple dagger
I have to laugh at thinking about the tutorial portion of the game, as we never DO see those first few runs "enter rotation" anymore after the first run. Not saying I necessarily want them to, but I think it'd be young to visit it... and maybe tweak it a bit. Idk how. It's been a while since I did "new game" and saw everything again under the guise of "wowie! I'm new!"
graceful chasm
i wonder what persephone looks like sometimes
hollow mortar
Meanwhile, I picture her they way she's depicted in SMITE 😅
thorny surge
i wonder if she also switched into a wintery form like her mother
atomic forge
inb4 she's in summer wear. "Oh, my mother didn't think I couldn't handle this? I'm not surprised."
supple dagger
A piece of me kinda wants her coded a bit like Eurydice, but other than that, yeah, I'm a little curious myself.
Also is it weird that I came to the observation that Asphodel and Elysium have two soundtracks that plays, while Tartarus has four (if I'm to include "House of Hades").
atomic forge
i have the shade in the elysium boss fight arena that is red is it possible over time that more and more of them turn red in favour of our boi
foggy cobalt
Oh, that would be cool.
I always like to do a little weapon demo after the fight so my fan has something more to cheer about.
atomic forge
indeed, i only just got him so i wondered if we could get more people in favour of him lol over time even if you gotta kill the boss like 50 more times just to get one more fan (excessive i know lol) but its neat little details like that which make a game just that more amazing
foggy cobalt
Oh, here's a question. What the heck are Skelly's prizes?
supple dagger
I think that would make the win/lose interesting. For every time you win in Elysium boss, you get a single shade that silently (but not really) supports Zagreus. Then maybe, 2 wins later, you have 4 or 5. 2 more, 7 to 9. 2 more, 12. Then every win after 12, you get larger chunks.
foggy cobalt
That item on the list is buggin me.
hidden bison
The big statues
foggy cobalt
Huh?
hidden bison
At the left of the exit window
supple dagger
So far, they're commissioned sculptures of Skelly. I learned that after getting the second one unlocked and Zag negatively commented "am I going through these pacts just for sculptures of you?" And Skelly admits he commissioned three models of himself in different poses and can't get a refund.
atomic forge
Oh them empty slots lol
supple dagger
I have yet to find out what the last pose is.
I'm glad Skelly's... a skeleton...
because those busts are definitely naked.
atomic forge
lol
foggy cobalt
Huh. I will have to poke at that.
clear oracle
I'm at 5 heat now and still haven't won a single run with melee weapons. What's wrong with me O.o
foggy cobalt
It happen!
Each weapon, but especially the melee weapons, have their own style.
They do play very differently, and figuring out how to make each work is part of the plan.
Lab it up.
crude epoch
meele weapons are fun
magnetic fists are my favorite
with arthur sword being a close second
open berry
luv the punchy bois, i had fun just climbing through heats collecting bounties
foggy cobalt
Whoo!
alpine briar
what the heck
I used artemis aid
5 charge
and it took 1/4 of hades health
ok
what
foggy cobalt
It does a lot of damage.
alpine briar
yeah thats really good
Just won with it
4th win today
pretty sick
uhh
the final sword aspect
it crit
for 1000 damage
flat shell
YUP
alpine briar
?????????????
????????????????????????????????????????????????????
why
is this
in the game
flat shell
Welcome to Arthur!
alpine briar
I main arthur
foggy cobalt
Because Power Character.
flat shell
Aphro on it is ALSO silly strong
alpine briar
1v1 me lan
flat shell
oh then. because lol
alpine briar
This is actually stupid
I broke the game
in 2 rooms
This game is over
300% damage to armor
prepare to die
clear oracle
One shot the Hydra heads for me
woeful sinew
melt everyone in your path
lyric urchin
You can't due to the armor
clear oracle
Hmm I definitely one shot the heads before with Hera Bow. I guess the damage wasn't applied at the same time?
lyric urchin
Probably
atomic forge
It does not.
lyric urchin
Well, I think the first heads might not have armor
atomic forge
The Attack and each Cast counts as their own individual hit.
Both waves of heads have armor.
lyric urchin
Then that's the reason
clear oracle
Then it's definitely probable to one shot a Hydra head with Hera Bow?
atomic forge
Yes.
clear oracle
That's...what I said?
lyric urchin
I mean you can't due to it counting as seperate hits
atomic forge
Technically correct.
lyric urchin
Did you just mean the health part?
clear oracle
Ok we have different definition of one shotting
atomic forge
But you're killing a head in single Attack, which is what FoxHope is asking.
A single set-up/action counts as "one-shotting".
lyric urchin
You can get more
alpine briar
389 now
clear oracle
Megaera is in my bedroom taking back her stuff :(
junior field
that's good, the room is a mess
clear oracle
I mean it's better than like 80% of real life boys room
But it's ok Meg, we will get back together
fickle comet
"Shut up, Zag."
manic yoke
Any idea when we're gonna get news on the next update?
supple dagger
No exact date was given outside of "June"
flat rapids
velvet wyvern
yo, alternate bossfights are so cool
I wish hades got one too
just remember to not get that drfit hermes boon when going for alt hydra
drifting citrus
in the in-game roadmap, there's confirmed one more alternate fight
likely EM hades
shy nimbus
I already made a meme for that 3rd Hades fight 🤭🤭🤭
velvet wyvern
4 phases hades
clear oracle
Is Poseidon legendary supposed to be a meme?
drifting citrus
which one
huge catch removes the chamber cooldown, making it really really good for fish grinding
second wave pushes enemies back further, and getting double wall slam with all of poseidon's tier 2 boons is great damage
clear oracle
I mean huge catch
junior field
it's not a meme? It nets you a lot of fishing spots, which is a great way to get resources
it's also the only viable way of getting Chaos fishes
clear oracle
Ok. Do you have any tips for a perfect catch?
clear oracle
Per Google, the buoy bops up to three times
So if the first 2 aren't it
The third one must be?
junior field
after the 3rd one
but it could be at any prior point, too. You have an 0.3 seconds window to click the button for perfect.
it sounds hard but it's pretty easy once you've done it a few times
I suggested a puddle interactable in the house so you could practice
clear oracle
Ok. I mean can you preemptively be ready for the third bops if the first two were fake?
north garden
max 3 fakes, final 4th one will sink. click/press catch immediately at the flash.
though i've gotten first bob flashes
i always switch to my dominant pointer finger to catch it lol
open berry
if you're using a controller with vibration, the controller will rumble ever so slightly on bobs and fully vibrate for catch time
honestly the easiest way to fish
north garden
that's so neat tbh, im playing on laptop so there's no vibration
literally no vibes 😔
open berry
I just have my ps3 controller plugged in, but even someone doing kbm could have a controller on standby just for fishing if they wanted. I don't kbm much with hades but swapping between them is pretty seamless
half shadow
I got into my second ever Erebus portal, and lost this time... I did not expect the Red Onion... now I'm not sure wether I wanna win Erebus runs anymore or get all the Red Onions, lol
fickle comet
@clear oracle you have 340 msec to make a perfect catch. There's a very obvious white flash when a fish bites, that's all you need to look for. Ignore the bops and vibrations, telling them apart is slower than looking for nothing but a white flash.
You get the codex from Achilles.
alpine briar
I've already talked to him
I talk to everyone when I finish a run
I dont understand how I have not gotten the interaction yet
fickle comet
It always boils down to just keep talking to people with a ! on their head and give nectar.
And do more runs.
velvet wyvern
you don't have the access to the codex at all ?
velvet wyvern
hold LB/L1
velvet wyvern
sorry I dont know the binding for keyboard
velvet wyvern
yup
velvet wyvern
Hold
alpine briar
No
velvet wyvern
safe to say it's bugged then
alpine briar
Look
velvet wyvern
there are things that you only unlock with the codex
alpine briar
I'm no game designer
But all I gotta say
Is add a way to check if the player has it
velvet wyvern
open a new save slot, and play a little to say if it unlocks
should happen pretty early on
first 4 runs or something
alpine briar
Maybe I missed the interaction
velvet wyvern
it's just talk to achiles
alpine briar
how do you post in the feedback channel?
velvet wyvern
idk the trigger, but eventually a conversation with achiles unlocks it
velvet wyvern
there's pinned text there
alpine briar
I can never see it
velvet wyvern
sorry?
velvet wyvern
no worries
velvet wyvern
according to the wiki:
Though the Codex is obtainable at any time after Zagreus' third escape attempt, Achilles may not hand it over right away - multiple conversations may be required to trigger the correct event. The Codex cannot be opened prior to obtaining it.
alpine briar
Dude
I have like
11 runs won
no way I dont have it by now
and I always talk to him
Maybe I'm dumb
velvet wyvern
hmm, i dont know
even if it becomes a matter of luck, your odds are pretty broken
would still count it as a bug
alpine briar
Makes me sad
velvet wyvern
Start a new save?
alpine briar
No way
Too far in
Forget the unlocks
It'll get patched
I'm sure I'm not the only one with this problem
fervent skiff
@alpine briar 11 runs may not be enough to ge the codex just saying
velvet wyvern
there is a post on the steam forums with a very simmilar report
alpine briar
I've had more than 11 runs
velvet wyvern
it's not 11 runs, he beaten hades 11 times
alpine briar
I have just won 11 times
fervent skiff
Well what happens sometimes is that when you get new lore text it sometimes overrides other text from happening
alpine briar
What do you advise I do then?
fervent skiff
If its been more than like 50 runs then it most likely a bug
alpine briar
I already submitted a bug report
fervent skiff
But other wise just die in the first room and keep talking to achilles
To refresh the house quickly
alpine briar
How
I have 3 death thingies
And 100 hp
It will take forever
Can you disable talents
OH WAIT
fervent skiff
Yeah
alpine briar
a heat thing does that
fervent skiff
The contract
alpine briar
I got this
fervent skiff
yeah
fervent skiff
Just do that and more damage and you should die pretty fast
alpine briar
I can't put this game down
fervent skiff
Oh damn thats great then
thorny surge
Hell, just the damage alone
fervent skiff
I swear dem PHAT numbers are so great
thorny surge
Yeah
fervent skiff
Add a few chaos boons and an attack special and bada bing bada boom you're unstopable
Lol nice
alpine briar
I am an absolute unit
I have
20 sec shield
arthur
and athenas aid
I am unstoppable
fervent skiff
Hades is as good as dead
alpine briar
For real
Ok boys
Confession time
Styx floor is harder than hades
Change my mind
thorny surge
Now add posi dash for extra numbers
fervent skiff
I mean I would agree with you under certain conditions
thorny surge
I will change your mind with the following sentence: you are w e a k
alpine briar
Hades is literally easy clap
thorny surge
Athena can deflect most poison attacks
fervent skiff
I mean when you reach heat 36 stuff gets... interesting
thorny surge
That’s why you dash on rats and excalibur them
thorny surge
Because normal hits stagger them
alpine briar
I am big scared
fervent skiff
For?
alpine briar
Of the heat modifyer
thorny surge
And exca has big range time
fervent skiff
Lol don't be
alpine briar
That gives a new attack
fervent skiff
Embrace
alpine briar
Actual scared
velvet wyvern
only annoyance to me is that rats have a little too much HP, but otherwise not a big problem
alpine briar
The phat ones
fervent skiff
Ah
thorny surge
Really? They’ve never seemed that phat to me unless you stack heat on them
fervent skiff
I mean the phat rats are really slow and basicaly just damage tanks
alpine briar
I am working my way up heat
Doing 1 at a time
to farm
extra stuff
playing the long game
fervent skiff
You just started I'm assuming?
alpine briar
Well
thorny surge
Jury summons is the best heat upgrade to me
alpine briar
I bought the game monday
I think
And now I have 30 hours
so I guess I just started
thorny surge
BRING FORTH THE HORDES
velvet wyvern
I like the alt bossfights a lot
thorny surge
Yeah
fervent skiff
Yeah same
thorny surge
Emergency Measures is great too
alpine briar
jury and damage immunity
fervent skiff
Encounters become so long though T^T
fervent skiff
*Extreme Measures
fervent skiff
Lol no
velvet wyvern
the explosive ones?
alpine briar
yes
velvet wyvern
lol
alpine briar
They can not be in the game
velvet wyvern
why
fervent skiff
They are great farms tho
velvet wyvern
dont remove chariotes
thorny surge
Yeah, those are a pain without damage dashes
fervent skiff
Just dash away
alpine briar
Just dash and spam my 3 casts
velvet wyvern
teseus chariote always give me a good laugh
fervent skiff
I just PSYCH them most of the time
alpine briar
Also
fervent skiff
Yeah
jagged goblet
but they are annoying on fists
alpine briar
I just tank it typically
fervent skiff
Lol don't do that
jagged goblet
i tank the whole game
velvet wyvern
just hit and run, lure them into a trap or make them hit a wall
fervent skiff
Just move to a wall and then dash away
velvet wyvern
everytime I got into theseus with athena dash I make sure to kill him with his own spear
fervent skiff
Or one of dem pillars
fervent skiff
I just hate Thesus's shield
alpine briar
Doom as a status curse thingy is cool and all
fervent skiff
but?
thorny surge
Nah, theseus is ez once you figure him
alpine briar
nothing else
velvet wyvern
the hades spear thingie?
fervent skiff
Well you need the other Doom boons to make pretty strong
thorny surge
Also that’s why you get the doom specific boons, aye
alpine briar
Thats what I mean
So like
Add a boon that inflicts paralysis on people with doom
Not like stone
that would be broken
fervent skiff
Nah Doom is fine as it is
fervent skiff
You mean like a slow down?
alpine briar
Yeah
fervent skiff
We have chill that does that
fervent skiff
I KNOW RIGHT
fervent skiff
I SWEAR
fervent skiff
I swear
velvet wyvern
without triple bomb feels impossible
thorny surge
That’s why you grab zeus or posi for it
alpine briar
Triple bomb carries the weapon
fervent skiff
Yeah I wish they could make the rail feel more faster
Like I'm standing shooting peeps and dropping a few bombs
Meanwhile with the sheild
WOAH GOING OVER THERE NOW HERE
velvet wyvern
major problem to me is that the gun doesnt stagger enemies
fervent skiff
It really should
alpine briar
gun doesnt stagger?
velvet wyvern
and have a poor dash attack
fervent skiff
Nope
fervent skiff
Exactly
alpine briar
Lets talk about broken stuff
fervent skiff
Sure
fervent skiff
Yes
alpine briar
IS IT IN THE GAME
fervent skiff
Not broken at all
alpine briar
Sure it is
velvet wyvern
i mean
alpine briar
Get athenas cast boon
velvet wyvern
why not
fervent skiff
Its perfect whatchu on aboot?
fervent skiff
WHAT
velvet wyvern
artemis for sure
fervent skiff
TAKE THAT BACK
alpine briar
But but
velvet wyvern
goddes #1
fervent skiff
ARTEMIS IS BEST GIRL
velvet wyvern
definitely best girl
alpine briar
1/4 of health gone
fervent skiff
High five me Dede
velvet wyvern
🙏
alpine briar
Wait
fervent skiff
Yas
fervent skiff
Lol why not
alpine briar
I got this
velvet wyvern
not exactly
alpine briar
Wait
thorny surge
Best girl is dusa she’s above your petty gods
alpine briar
Honestly
velvet wyvern
It would be too much platonic with arthemis to me
final hollow
Best girl is Artemis
velvet wyvern
boo hoo
fervent skiff
Lol dusa is a great character
velvet wyvern
you can leave
final hollow
Artemis is by far the highest tier waifu
alpine briar
I'm crying
velvet wyvern
good night sir
final hollow
Imagine Artemis getting fake mad at you when you accidentally step on a twig and scare away a rabbit she was about to brutalize with her bare hands
fervent skiff
She would look so cute doing it as well
final hollow
right?
velvet wyvern
she's always like "dude you're such a bro"
alpine briar
You guys are deplorable
velvet wyvern
I can't hear you from here
fervent skiff
You're deplorable
velvet wyvern
you're too low
alpine briar
GOTTEM
final hollow
ahem yeah i am sweetheart
fervent skiff
moi?
final hollow
Anti swear bots always make me just want to see what it takes to get past them
Like what I use | instead of I
Or l instead of I
alpine briar
||Read if artemis is bad||
velvet wyvern
go play age of empires 2
fervent skiff
Aight back on topic
velvet wyvern
the game is basically 50% figuring out how to surpass swearing filter
alpine briar
Ok
fervent skiff
Why do you not like artemis?
fervent skiff
WHY
final hollow
Her boons are insane fym
alpine briar
When I'm not building specifically for her stuff
fervent skiff
THEY ARE SO GOOD
alpine briar
ehh
fervent skiff
Aight lemme explain
alpine briar
No no
velvet wyvern
why wouldt you like any of the female characters, really
alpine briar
Crits are cool
fervent skiff
yes yes
final hollow
Artemis+Ares is absolutely insane
fervent skiff
But yes
final hollow
A 15% crit chance for 200% damage is an outright 30% damage buff
fervent skiff
BUT THATS THE BEST PART
alpine briar
only caveman brain
final hollow
Literally just straight buff to any damage with that attack
fervent skiff
MATH
alpine briar
Video game = ooga booga
fervent skiff
I swear
thorny surge
I don’t think that’s how math works
final hollow
whipping out calculator.exe to figure out how busted artemis's next boon will make my special
fervent skiff
And a hera build with artemis is super OP
final hollow
Hera?
velvet wyvern
the guy in the soldier pfp couldnt have any other attitude, really
final hollow
Ohh I see
alpine briar
I find them boring
fervent skiff
NO BUTTS
velvet wyvern
the best
alpine briar
compared to other
final hollow
bOrInG
alpine briar
boons
velvet wyvern
no but
velvet wyvern
compared to others. is the superior
fervent skiff
Lol aight
alpine briar
How should they nerf arthur
final hollow
Yeah lemme use a garbage Zeus boon because it's flashy durrr
fervent skiff
What do you mean nerf ?
alpine briar
It needs it
final hollow
Ok how do you unlock Guan Yu
velvet wyvern
why nerf any stuff
final hollow
I'm sword main
alpine briar
Luke be quit
velvet wyvern
if anything, make things more powerfull
final hollow
but i want that top tier
thorny surge
No arthur nerfs
final hollow
I NEED GUAN YU
thorny surge
New topic
thorny surge
Why is poseidon the best dash
alpine briar
NO
velvet wyvern
go talk to achiles
alpine briar
ATHENA DASH
final hollow
After doing what
thorny surge
500 word essay
final hollow
I know you need to invest a certain amount of blood into the spear or something
What else?
thorny surge
Athena dash means you are w e a k
alpine briar
It means you are genji
velvet wyvern
i just unlocked hades spear
alpine briar
Deflection time
velvet wyvern
and after some time there I have it
thorny surge
Poseidon’s dash just makes styx trivial
final hollow
I find myself muttering "I NNEED HEALING" irl sometimes
final hollow
bruh I main mercy
thorny surge
And its special status effect makes it deal a DoT when enemies move
final hollow
Or Junkrat
alpine briar
ok back on topic
velvet wyvern
does anyone use the "get life each chamber" thing?
alpine briar
The stubborn defiance?
velvet wyvern
aside from Vinny from Vinesauce
thorny surge
Don’t need to worry about rats and satyrs if you disintegrate them with a couple posi dashes
alpine briar
wait that was not specific
velvet wyvern
the mirror stuff
velvet wyvern
that changes into either getting life each chamber or healing with darkness
alpine briar
I use it
velvet wyvern
its TRASH
velvet wyvern
litteraly like, 50 darkness
velvet wyvern
oog booga, i got it
velvet wyvern
lol poseidon
spiral pond
yall clowns debating which waifu of yours are better but 
is the best
velvet wyvern
it is athena but worse
alpine briar
true
thorny surge
Darkness is something you get every now and then at best
Constant small heals are better
@spiral pond lithophile begone
velvet wyvern
I always stumble into a pillar whenever I call poseid aid
alpine briar
So I can see how he is bad
velvet wyvern
3s into a wall
spiral pond
thorny surge
You fool, you want the knockback for the extra wall slam damage
velvet wyvern
knockback is wonderful with the shield
spiral pond
@velvet wyvern CC masochist lel
velvet wyvern
xD
thorny surge
Posi boons make knockback hits deal more unga vs bosses and make it give a status effect that hurts them when they move
Checkmate atheists
velvet wyvern
is it possible to get to hades without any boon?
thorny surge
Yes
velvet wyvern
booneless
thorny surge
It’ll make the fight excruciating
alpine briar
OH GOD STOP
thorny surge
But it can be done
velvet wyvern
please delete this
spiral pond
You cant
spiral pond
I am the curse god itself
velvet wyvern
it haunts me
velvet wyvern
it's 6:12
alpine briar
5:12
velvet wyvern
good morning
thorny surge
Post chaorles
velvet wyvern
you assumed to dont know math already
woeful sinew
oooh east coast eh?
spiral pond
@thorny surge yeah i should probably make new curse
thorny surge
Yes
velvet wyvern
you're wrong by default when come to numbers
alpine briar
shhhhhh
woeful sinew
i’m die
alpine briar
Dude
velvet wyvern
i like it
woeful sinew
youve killed me, pay for my funeral
thorny surge
lmao
spiral pond
bye
velvet wyvern
chaos would be a fine drag race contestant
woeful sinew
they would slay everyone on stage
spiral pond
that is a new type of curse boon by chaos
spiral pond
look into this picture for 5 minutes you get a defiance boon
woeful sinew
eg
alpine briar
EVERY RUN EGG
I MAIN EGG 1V1
Chaos boons are like
"Oh you have a fully automatic weapon? Lose 5 hp per attack for 4 rooms"
LIKE BRUH
final hollow
Chaos boons are sick
velvet wyvern
you're weak dude
final hollow
honestly there's no god that i don't like
woeful sinew
it’s a long term commitment. In it for the long haul... In my case i forget i chaos boned till 6 chambers later and hear their wibbly wobbly sounds
velvet wyvern
chaos is ez money
final hollow
I've stanned poseidon since the Percy Jackson series but his aren't all that spectacular
alpine briar
I love chaos
I always get them
ez free stuff
can we also talk about how the wine dude sucks
like
spiral pond
@alpine briar how many curse will make you get out of this server
velvet wyvern
hm
final hollow
Dionysus are okay, the DoT on hangover is beneficial but it's not exclelent
alpine briar
No stop Fade
woeful sinew
h my gosh pleaes
alpine briar
Hangover is awful
final hollow
Can you send images in any channel
alpine briar
Worst status effect in the game