#h1-story-discussion
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okay sorry
Alright ^^
Hes never dealt with mortals
So he might just accidentally melt you a little y'know?
some people are worth melting for
Artemis
Bit of hypnos
if you only get one side melted off you can still have enough brain to appreciate it
Random question. Why is Theseus an absolute BASTARD to fight.
because he's invulnerable from the front
because he's a bastard
Yes that small metal shield vs my lightining
it's non-conductive
But like
I dunno it feels a little small
It would feel more accurate if he had one of those tower shields
But those were roman
his platter's been blessed by the gods
Also do you think that like they are chariot nerds like we have car nerds
Maybe wheel heads
i actually think theseus is the easiest of the two, just dash around him to circumvent the shield and apply DoTs on the smug bastard
his blessing AoE are not that hard to dodge either
asterius is stupidly tanky though
definitely into horses
and Theseus certainly recognizes the value of the Macedonian
horses were a big thing in ancient greece and before, especially in poseidon's worship
they're one of his two sacred animals, alongside bulls
Yeah we never see any dead horse riders
yeah
what little chariots we see just drive themselves
and explode on their own more often than not
Just imagine a big chariot with an arrow shade in the back
or most historically accurate a spear thrower
also its kind of weird how the enemies get smaller the farther you get
The big club guys are the largest common enemy
and the bomb bois are next
but like satyrs are mostly baby
the rats are bigger than bloodless and exalted though
you don't think rodents of unusual size exist?
ROUS
KILLED CHAD AND THE BEEFY BOY. DON'T LIKE POISON RATS
I hate dad
Hes coarse, rude, and gets on the surface
Enjoy your stay at styx ❤️
Yeah, i also hate [REDACTED]
He kills me every time i try to find me mum
But joke’s on him because i’m starting to learn his patterns
don’t make an immature joke don’t make an immature joke don’t make an immature joke
Maybe it says Redacdad all along and we just misread it?
haha rectum
kek
hypnos won’t stop falling asleep so i wouldn’t put it past him
get him a bed
We took so long to come back he fell asleep and drooled on our bit of his list
So he’s just trying to play cool
I’m sorry to tell you mate but you can’t romance hypnos
f
I was not ready for Chaos to ||Ask Zag if they're going to stop seeing each other after Zag finds his mom||
chaos is so good????
they adopted zag so quickly??
Heart palpitations
fricking valid
Everyone either has adopted him or is dating him
pretty much yeah
Except Artemis, Artemis and Zag adopted each other
They are both the best
Chimdren 😔
No
Let them hang out 😔
i just want her to be happy with her friends and her girlfriend
No one is baby
why not?
I saw him today be like ||you two need to TALK|| to Hades and I was like
Dusa is the worst of them
THAN 🥺
than is so good!!!
Theyre people
also he wants to help?
HE WANTS TO HELP
Are there are even child gods?
like he talks to nyx about how he wants to help
buddy its an expression
of course they're not kids
What a good death 😔
Strong contender for best death along with death from discworld
ohhh you right
tho what about the death from good omens?
all death good death
but than is most bae
Than but he speaks LIKE THIS
oh GOD
Pathologic 2
anwyas
What do you mean adopted
Also I thought for a second you said a character died and I was like oh gods no
Adopted as in ive decided theyre my children now
😔
same
they're my kids and hades and i will meet on the battlefield
i'm gonna punch him real hard
Hit the bag of pitato
Aterius is then my child
a good choice!!!
Theseus probably got stuff done when he was not a dead
Im just. Killed. By the thought of Chaos standing there in their domain, staring out into the endless darkness and wondering what is this unpleasant feeling that makes them not feel good once Zag leaves
And considering how much sissy changed apparently since he died
Constant praise might have screwed with theseus in elysium
theseus is all bark and no bite, once you realize that hes more amusing than anything
i go to elysium for patroclus and asterius
It is theseus
but the bad kind
me when theseus is doing some big ego talk and ive already zoned it out https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/357344472880644118/701151071090770060/tumblr_inline_obwkoaY4kF1ro1lxq_500.gif
Theseus and Asterius do be lookin kinda fine in their armor though
i think more than anything hes mostly blinded by his own ego but not inherently bad. when he offers zag his autograph and zag just turns it down so casually, theseus is genuinely taken aback bc despite his very vocal opinions on zag, he didnt expect it lmao
Zagreus' laurel is superior to Theseus'
all is true
theseus is very confused
i'm not sure he even knows who zag is? i can see hades just telling him to stop him
pretty sure he just thinks he's someone from tartarus who keeps escaping
Hey, a Thought tm: Zag's laurel and feet burn hotter when he's excited
YES
Mmmmm yes
Excited Zag is also a nyoom
More drawing work
When Zag is asleep ir very calm they're both red and just warm and gently kindling
maybe pomegranate leaves? and also fire
I also what other things grow in the under world
Other than the hella on brand pomegranate
Also do they have water?
Cus even the water cooler appears to be filled with blood
Poseidon at some point has to be like "Zag you see not all liquids are blood"
"Yeah I know sometimes there's lava"
ambrosia and nectar also
Elysium has normal-ish water i think
It looks more like clouds
Also wouldn’t count ambrosia and nectar since they’re beverages and not natural liquid
water in fountains
Yeah what is with those
oh and pools in fountain chamber in tartarus
and it seems that styx might be water? ||there's some to drink in the archive room||
Those are everywhere minus styx
Pretty sad if you ask me
dirty water boo
Also the outside of the temple of styx is tecnically outside the underworld so i wouldn’t really count it
it's on the surface not outside no?
“Dad before we kill eachother i gotta ask you a question: why is the blood in the outside world translucid?” -Zagreus
or rather next to the surface
I think the final arena is on the surface proper
catches an alive fish on the surface and screams in confusion
Hades even references it in some of the dialogues before you smacc him
Speaking of which, i what do you guys think the post-Hades map will be? Because the map seems to go past Styx
Just some plain snow field?
I just hope these will be a fishing point
I dont really know what to expect? Olympus realm?? bc god's sense his presence on the surface
Whatever you catch you have to get identified by artemis
or I guess I achilles would know what surface fish are
will zag talk in flash with everyone or will he hide? the question of all questions....
Zag just wants to see his mum, i don’t think he even has a plan after that
zeus wouldnt ask him tho
Helios could just be like hi hello I have the order from the king Zeus to get you to Olympus
That’s because Zeus and all the other gods still believe Zagreus is escaping from Hades to join them in Olympus
Nah, that’d probably be Hermes
I feel like the gods would stop caring after he gets out cus its less dramatic, and thats all they were intrested in
Helios just bc he has a chariot
I dunno well Nyx said that Athena would/could understand I we told her the truth
They’re gods, they all can probably spirit Zagreus away with their powers
I was honestly also thinking about that too, i wonder if they’ll get pissy about the whole deceiving thing
yoooooo
that's just the scariest
yeah
don’t want ice grandma to punch my face off
good thing her gloves are with us
Yes but sadly all gods put their old weapons away willingly and if Hades is anything to go by got a replacement
or maybe she will be up to help just to find her child.
Think about hwo many titan weapons are on olympus
Hades aint the only one with a collection probably
Probably none of em, dialogue seems to imply that Hades kept all infernal arms
back to demeter talk, I'm more worried about persephone really
hades is genuinely worried about her no?
It doesn’t really make sense that we’d have weapons that were the olympians’ like the Shield or Coronacht and Exagryph either if that were the case
and he said its for everyone's sake to not search for persephone
Posiedon is literally holding his spear
Yes, but that one isn’t an Infernal Arm afaik
Ok?
It's his Trident right
I wonder what Aphrodite's weapon would be
her hair lol
Zeus has lighting
Aphrodite wasn’t a goddess that fought much even in the myths so i don’t think she had any
unless you count spartan aphrodite
I’d wager that if she fought she’d be a caster sort of enemy
Ares seems to favor some kukri sorta sword if we go by the portrait
And i’ll be very sad if demeter isn’t punch grandma if we ever fight her
I dont think we will
It would be awesome if we could fight all the God's one by one
But it probably won't happen
Me neither but it’d be fun
It could be there way of testing zag
we're tested out no?
Aphrodite plays as a mage-class in a moba I play. Pretty interesting 
We deadass crawled out of the underworld and slapped Hades into the House, i think Zag’s been more than tested already lol
She attacks with her doves, infatuates enemies and aids her soulmates
they said it a couple of times like "we've been waiting for you to prove yourself now eat up the strong stuff (legend boons etc)"
still yeah we could fight them not demeter but others who are pissed
@hollow mortar - Smite's fun, but we all know Aphro's a lover, not a fighter!
but I think the best tactics is to live there some time then casually ask Artemis for help in secret or smth
Hey, I have a KDA that says otherwise 😝
looks at aphrodite threatening to come kill zag with her own hands, hmm
or just straight up run run run to mother's hut
My Zag would off himself if Aphro hated him, she'd never need to touch him.
Achilles does note in the codex that Aphrodite is not to be taken lightly
Never take love lightly, love.
Ok, Cu Chulain 😘
just say we kissed
shook
I never choose any god over Aphro, but I should start sometimes just to see more lines from her.
I RP my runs
You will get to see a sweet pink heart coming your way 💗
#Scared
how lovely... haha.......
Honestly the one that I am most worried of choosing against, after doing it once, is Demeter
its just a gesture of love! tough love, if you will
But given her speech pattern I'm not surprised motherf****
im afraid of vortex things of hearts of waves and of wine bubbles
spurned poseidon and dionysus are easy to avoid though
I'd better fight with meg or the bull than with gods
dionysus especially, unless you just have too much going on on your screen, but his come up slowly and dont hit you immediately
My hardest choice every run is to go for hermes boon or dual-boon
or hermes vs hammer
I'm afraid of anything next to lava honestly
don't get me started about the lava
no-walls on my ARPG is why i never played Bastion
I ***hate *** it
I can't do that
[hypnos voice] have you tried, haha, not stepping in lava?
I was SO annoyed when hypnos said it
I would have never played this game
lava nly messes me up in extreme measures hydra since the arena literally just becomes The Floor Is Lava: The Game some runs lmao
for more than 10 mins
++++++++++++
.-.
pick hydra in the pact? no thanks i'd better go with x100 enemies +150% hp and +100% damage
I'm still on heat 3, but guess it's soon time to try out hydra's new mod
Is this based on like, some form of genuine fear of video game lava or do you just dislike being punished for positioning that is less than ideal?
extreme measures is the best part of the pact tho
Cale, I am just a bad gamer
I played Bastion for 10 mins, died 10 times from falling off cliffs
gave up quick
I get in lava*** a lot***
I just started Bastion today on my Switch.
I've only fallen during the scripted falls so far.
i basically live on the lava when i'm there, but that's fine cuz i dash back to safety quick
Do y'all think the Hades extreme measures fight will be extremely hard
I use the shield over the dodge roll most of the time.
gotta have extreme measures hydra if you want extreme measures theseus ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I end up in lava a lot more often than I end up falling in bastion
which i find more fun as a fight than vanilla fight
Dama. ❤️
Hi!
Hey! It feels like it's been a minute!
Yeah I’ve been writing a bunch
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Less active on here
I started Bastion just to train for lava realm lol
Exciting!
Lol that’s a good idea
I'll give Bastion a chance again some day, cuz it looks awesome
it was really hard for me tho
I hadn’t listened to the soundtrack before playing so I heard all the songs in their full context
i played bastion in.. [checks achievement dates] 2012ish, i reinstalled it like a couple months ago and tried to revisit and i still have a lot of nostalgia for it but the polish of hades is certainly more noticeable when trying to go back to the combat in sgg's first title....
I have Bastion on Steam for a long time but never really forced myself to play cuz its harddddd im a bad player....
I’m still chasing the feeling of the credits rolling and hearing setting sail coming home for the first time
It's been interesting to play them in reverse order because you see a lot of the influence that ended up in Hades.
Like the Drips or w/e they're called move/attack very similar to how Numbskulls do.
squirts

remember when bastion had a portal reference because everyone had portal references back then
Back when you couldn't say the word 'cake' without some smart crack saying "The cake is a lie, lololol".
lol i'm only 25 it's not like i'm ancient
90's was just the sweet spot to be born for a video game lyfe
But the trade off is crippling anxiety and uncertainty in a world not designed for you to thrive
Worth
well that escalated
Hahaha
So I adore portal but if I have to hear a group of people all start singing that goddamn song in all different keys even one more time...
I fortunately somehow escaped ever hearing anybody sing it beyond GlaDos.
yo its not like you're old ancient etc Im just saying I was too young for Bastion at that time :(
i was bad at portal and it made me feel stupid any time i played it so my attachment to it doesnt extend beyond 'turrets are neat lil lads'
No I know, but if you even have to deny it!
i'm still a cheerful young lad ;~;
oh no
It’s from before your time
In my age I've mastered it.
I've hever heard of that 
Back when going places and doing things was possible
F
Back in the day we used to go sit at these places called restaurants and eat food made by OTHER people.
i'm laughing so hard now thank you
I used to work in one of these locations but the COVID took my jerbb
Please move the discussion to #off-topic-discussion if it’s going to continue, as stated in the 3rd rule of the server
@hollow mortar ah sorry, we will. It’s hard to tell sometimes whether something will be a diversion for just a few lines or if it will end up going on
What if we took the discussion and MOVED it over
It’s ok if it’s a brief chat but if you see it will be prolonged, better to go to the channel specified for that 
I'm just going to end it. #off-topic-discussion already is deep in conversation and it gets chaotic trying to interject anything not on subject in there sometimes.
In other news; Hades, huh? That guy has a beard that twists.
Weird.
dude made his beard the sigil of his house
the fact what him beard reversed is the pic on the money
like presidents faces
but without a face
the future hades trinket is going to be a fake hades beard
which changes zaugreus' model to sport a bident beard too
AHAHHAA
has a chance to charm nearby enemies
If genetics are anything to go off of, Zag will have a pretty godly beard of his own when he's older.
His dad and both main Uncles are already rocking em
Yeah, two out of his three bearded relatives have pretty nice beards
a chance 0.0001% just for persephone to be charmed
THEY'RE ALL NICE BEARDS
dude that’s his mother but then again this is inspired in greek mythology so extra points for following the original myths
Also patroclus, his placeholder portrait was just,, Fluffy beard
I think zag is old enough to grow one, but his body keeps reverting to default state whenever he respawns
OH. Imagine hades loses his beard when you kill him
0-0 cursed material
imagine EVERYONE comments on the beard
and chaos be like oh. that is new. what do you call it? is it some kind of weapon?
@spiral pond look cursed material, beardless hades
Oh i have just the right thing to combo with it
sweet
a trinket
I do not like this image charlie
Her smug aura taunts me
I bet if Zag put on a fake Hades beard Hypnos would be too tired to tell the difference.
Artemis smile is the only smile that matters.
you all are cursed in this reality
imagine stealing his real beard for one fight
when i exist
I want supergiant to replace all the portraits with smiling characters like this for 4/20
cursed
including charon of course
and Than only has the front facing sprite with the cursed smile
charon with added eyes and smile
will alecto stop smiling?
Uh.
not when there's red blood yet to be spilled
her smile is the same but her eyes are cursed smiling mouths
why is it any time I look on this server there's some god forsaken horrible face app image
Such is life on the underworld
i'm genuinly scared for cursed artemis demeter and megaera
I WANT TO SEE CURSED MEGAERA.
Shade: "Where are you, my love?" cause of death: stabbing
why i do believe their love might be in jail then
will alecto stop smiling?
@buoyant frost when she is vanquished
portrait of Alecto looking straight in the camera would be cursed enough
smiling or not
but that takes more than just faceapping
i do hope alecto and tisi get expanded upon more than just meg's sisters
permit to allow them back into the house so we can romance both of em when
what are satyrs even made of
shoot them with hangover, let the poison do it's work
they jsut fall apart into a pile of blood and gore after being poisoned
what
they are made of asshat juice that's what they are
i hate them
one of them sniped me and the panic dashes made me waste my last defiance before i could heal myself
they are furies, they're supposed to be scary
frightening, or thrilling, or just making you feel nervous in their presence
also, Dio mentioned that he used to hang out with satyrs, but they were nothing like those from Styx
yeah
probably a reference to pre-olympian dionysus
does the harsh conditions prophecy require you to beat the game with all conditions at once?
nope
you could do runs with just one condition at a time if you want
any active conditions during a won run count towards the prophecy
when i worked towards it, i did the top half of the pact first, then most of the second half, then no choice by itself
Anyone feel like the 4th aspect from the Shield of Chaos is going to be an actual battle-shield? Like, the Special is gonna be replaced with something that isn't a throw, meanwhile the Attack is built upon (since the other two out of three aspects focus on the Special's Throw)
👀
I'd love an attack focused Aegis ngl... never liked Special-oriented weapons that much
first aspect is kinda attack focused but I get what you mean
Bull rush memes shield aspect pls
Charged shot baby
Used Charged Shot on my first 32 Heat clear.
Favorite Shield hammer by a country mile.
Strong dong
i invested 4 blood into aspect of eria
or hestia or whatever
getting to stand in your own explosions is almost impossible
Eris
And i mean
I never found it that hard
You can dash through as well
Just make sure it also hits you
with that shade that died to the falling tortoise, do you think the tortoise was ok?
yeah, the dude's corpse softened the fall
good
so uh this isn't big enough to be mentioned in feedback but do you guys think there should be a special voice line if Zag kills Theseus and Asterius at the same time?
I just did it for the first time (Excalibur is OP omfg) and while it was funny for Zag to yell "You're next!" into an empty arena..
wait he could've been talking to the audience..
but the audience started cheering louder since the bosses died..
Masochism must be a much bigger thing when you're immortal huh
zag activates zeus' call
audience starts getting zapped too
you know if you attack the audience the shades give off the shade death 'puff' you get when you attack other non-aggressive shades
but they don't disappear like those ones do
wait that happens? i gotta try hit the audience next time i get to the bull and the dull
You've heard of elf on the shelf, now get ready for the bull and the dull
lmao
Zagreus: "Give me your latest Special."
Wretched Broker:MALPHON UPPERCUT
i wouldnt romance someone who actively tries to scam me
wretched broker/falcon ron duh
i want a minigame
You reall think zag can cook?
He doesnt even have the only reason anyone learns to cook which is to eat when mom and dad arent home andlike 12
Cus he doesnt need to eat
do you think he can play the harp?????
Nay
i think zag should learn to cook bc one day hes gonna be on the surface and out of ambrosia and THEN how will he show his love
YEAH
why games dont have cooking crying
https://archiveofourown.org/works/22228054 here read this 
An Archive of Our Own, a project of the
Organization for Transformative Works
we have spices and a big pot and hellish fire and knives a lot of them
thank you I will
wait why there's fire
I want him to try and make food
And its just terrible
And like no one has the heart to tell him
aside from hades but he doesnt believe him
I mean it’s not like there’s much to eat in the underworld
Knuckleheads are just like gel
There’s poms, onions, nectar, ambrosia and maybe the vermin
Except it’s a literal lava lamp
GIVE ZAG AN AQUARIUM
Also what do you do with Orpheus’ quest? Do you just metal hero the devil out of the harp on your room and talk to him?
keep playing it between runs and talk to orpheus when he has smth to say
it's not a quest that can be completed quickly
Damn, i was afraid it would be like that
scroll uppp... i love it
awwwuuu that was cute
Wish we had a voice channel
Oh my god all of those were great
20000 ppl or whatever in the vc at once i think Not 
oh gods no
If they add an aquarium, I think it'd be cute, to see all the fishes of the Underworld live in the same tank.
not many ppl talk even less would join the voice 😔
@eternal breach imagine growing and feeding fish
for playing the insturnment does it just happen randomly or is there something ya need to do
having names for each
what do you mean "happen randomly".... you like... have a harp... and press play
true
for the different kinds of water in the underworld
well to play better i mean, ive been playing it for months now and he barely has improved
hell even if half of it's on the same river we don't know if it's all the same ecosystem
because the presence of feesh does imply an ongoing ecosystem despite it being the underworld, which is hilarious in hindsight
seen that big door at the House? open it and add aquariums in all the walls
dunno
we're not just constantly murdering the poor bastard, now we're also stealing his room to make room for our aquarium
i mean the idea is cool but we'd deffo need more room in our... well, room to put an aquarium in there
@viscid fjord just play after each run.... It took me 1-3 days (dont remember) so its weird I dunno
yeah every run i talk to everybody and hit the harp then go out
weird
he has quest mark tho
i think you may either be bugged or just have bad rng
should i give him more ambrosia
either ambrosia or try visiting his tree waifu
so just talking wount help
like does he need to be maxed out
leeeet me look..
she's also a musician so some bits of the quest might require speaking to her too
i have the quest on the fate desk, and i did free him so he can visit his tree wife
hell, she composed a lot of his songs
maybe you're supposed to talk to her and you just softlocked yourself by accident
shrug
I dont remember talking to her about the harp at all
affection is literally not tied in with the lyre progress at all
i can say that with 100% certainty
you need 200+ total interactions with the lyre to finish it
you need to legit practice
as in use the harp a couple dozens of times between each run
alright time to spam it i guess
orpheus will comment at 20, 60, 110 and 210 interactions
okay i guess im just half way through then thanks for the assistance
so wait
oh wait so it's not after each run huh
can you literally just do it on the same run
no I dont think so
you just need to mash the damn thing
if you want to sit there waiting for the interaction time to clear 200+ times, sure
orpheus has to comment on each stage of your progress anyway before you can complete the prophecy
he will not talk to you more 2 times a run
yeah i was about to go there too
so it'll still take a couple runs
but i suggest just hitting it up some amounts of times between runs so it doesnt feel like such a drag
yeah you will still have to do at minimum like 4 runs to get the orpheus dialogue
but you cant just sit there spamming the button, the interaction has to completely clear first
I was just sitting there harping the harp for 3 mins when I got it so I guess I just skipped the "why doesn't he talk to me" part lol
@buoyant frost only if you gift him. if you have him maxed out he acts like any other npc, you only get one dialogue per run.
you only get more if you gift
I mean talk with quest mark
thats part of regular dialogue i believe
like, i didnt get additional dialogue with nyx when she had the quest marker above her, i had to yet again complete another run for more conversation
strange I got new lines every time I saw a quest marker I was sure it means exactly "come hear new story dialogue"
no i mean like. when you finish a run, you only get conversation from npcs once. even if they have more dialogue to cycle through, they won't give you additional dialogue until you do another run
gift and quest/narrative dialogue have different priorities so you can gift an npc and get dialogue from that, and still talk to that npc and get other dialogue
uuuuugh I'm confused now let's say we understood each other
should i use my diamonds to unlock songs or save em for future stuff.
maybe my english is not that good or I just need sleep q-q
well there is a certain npc that needs a lot of them so if you unlocked them you should know what I'm talking about and if not then don't spend the diamonds
Apparently "Macedonia" is the name of a country. What's the relation supposed to be between The Macedonian Chariot that Theseus gets and the European country of Macedonia?
wrong macedonia. north macedonia and macedonia of antiquity are two different things. this is probably intended to be a reference to antiquity during the hellenistic period more than anything else, as the ancient macedonian kingdom was quite involved in classics
at a glance ancient macedonia was involved in at least 4 major wars lmao
war chariots were in use back in those times you know
Alexander the Great was the son of Philip of Macedon, right?
Philip II
I played a new save and got all the way up to Hades
kinda sad that there's no new dialogue for going that far without the Mirror
after I died to Hades, Meg told me that the next time I get past her I should go all the way... b-but I did
I stepped fiery foot onto the surface and the God of the Dead himself had to come and stop me, don't feel bad for losing to Zag after all that.
Still though, it's interesting how the lore progresses when you haven't gone back to the House yet. Zagreus really seems badass when he goes all the way, and all the lore reveals
when he talks to Cerberus about having to find his mother, or seeing Hades for the first time since technically you haven't been back at the House yet
it's like a whole different game since all the late-game lore is said only at late-game bosses, and the missing interactions back at the house makes it way more gratifying a reveal
is interesting
you didn't get dialogue bc the start of game dialogue takes priority. as far as I know only meg ever really comments on lack of darkness though
so there's not really any incentive to doing it other than personal challenge. I tried it once and hated it lmao
yeah no I think it's pretty much impossible for people to get that far on their legitimate first try, so I'm not saying there should be dialogue or anything
but Meg commenting on the lack of darkness should be a thing though, since she does say at one point the only reason Zag wins is cuz of the mirror
even though you can beat her without it
I literally already said meg comments on it lmao
she has a few lines, in the battle chamber and in the lounge as far as I remember
but again all of that start of the game dialogue takes priority
I'm not sure what the minimum amount of runs you'd have to go through to see them are, might be easier to just do it on a file you've gone through much of the dialogue already to increase your chances, and just restart if you get the other fury sisters
iirc in one she accuses zag of rubbing it in and he explains he only wanted to prove himself to her
Hey guys, I have a theory if you want to read it.
So, I have a theory pertaining to the final aspects and some very feasible information to back it up.
I have a feeling that they will all lead to different choices of how the true ending of the game will pan out.
Reason 1: Let's start off with the Frost Flair Blade and Demeter. When I took that final aspect to the surface and had a few of her boons, I had a very interesting line of dialogue from Hades about it.
First, Zagreus said "Brr, it feels colder up here for some reason."
He said something along the lines of "So, you are naive in not seeing the effects you are causing in the world beyond?"
To which Zagreus responds "Then tell me father, what exactly is going on?"
To which Hades retorts back "Hmph, it's better that you stay ignorant of your choices and the future consequences they bring, just as you always have been."
I think one of the true ending choices has Zagreus ending the world in an ice age or something along the lines with the Frost Flair blade and the power of Demeter
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The other final aspect, though I am not too certain how it will play out, it might have something to do with him protecting his mother with the blades defensive aura.
That or he might be the founder of King Arthur himself
We will have to see the other final aspects to see just how they might influence and/or back up my theory
what's the max level for aspect of zagreus on the sword?
V
That Frost Flair theory is interesting
ok so just one ambrosia and i can do the skelly favor
once i buy sisyphus and orpheus' pacts with diamonds
is there any other need for diamonds? except exchanging for ambrosia and buying songs?
Some contractor items require it, but besides that it's just for songs and ambrosia
yeah i know the pacts are on the contractor, i just finished getting both of them
I would love to have my theory pinned for people to read
If enough people find it interesting, anyway.
personally, i feel it adds an interesting way to have a conclusion
working towards the aspects to see how the story could end
To add to it, there have been quite a few lines from Zagreus stating that the final aspects are something pertaining to the future. Or in this case, future events and the true ending.
i think i'm down for that
though i always did find it odd that guan yu's aspect is called the "frost" flair blade
nothing about him ever stuck out to me as frosty
isnt it frost fair though
don't remember
and im pretty sure its just bc guan yu's actual weapon was called that
I couldn't remember
yea
huh
the other name for it is
green dragon something blade
from the idea that during a battle in the snow, the blade continuously had blood on it; the blood froze and made a layer of frost on the blade.
brutal
I only got that dialogue from carrying that blade and having Demeter boons on me
Interestingly enough
i actually got another recent new line of dialogue myself
i don't think the weapon mattered
but it was a conversation the two had anyway regarding demeter
and zag was confused about if she's doing something
does demeter give frost related comments or no
hades just said "remain ignorant then, for the best"
i don't remember her having such a line
id assume yes
Yeah that's what he said to me
i know she has it for malphon
i vaguely remember getting one for one of the swords
i THINK
im not super sure though
We need to see the next final aspect, but I think if it is going along my train of thought, this will be very interesting to see.
i've wondered what exactly would determine the final aspects for the other weapons
to that extent, interesting that we got guan yu's spear instead of, say
longinus
or gae bolg
Have you ever noticed Zagreus has heterochromia eyes. His father's eye color is red, his mothers is green
yes
It always interested me
I generally think heterochromatic eyes look cool as hell
I also generally think that I should've gone to sleep by 12 and not be up right now at past 3 AM
i'm sure there's plot significance for zagreus having the form of heterochromia he does, but generally i see characters having that "just cuz"
i mean
Thanatos comments on it iirc
it makes sense given his mom's identity
than does comment on it, bc zag immediately says something about his mother, and than clarifies that hades had ordered everyone to never speak of her, not that than ever knew what happened anyway
Hey guys happy 4/20 (for those of you that live somewhere where it's currently 4/20, if not just good morning... unless it's night- HI JUST HI EVERYONE)
how could i have forgotten the most important day of the year
quarantine is really messing me up
You know how during school you have to keep track of the days so you're like: "what day is it""October 4th" while on vacation is like:"what day is it?""um... Ju...ly? July? Or August maybe?"
We do: we have certain subjects for certain days plus tests and interrogations
subjects are remembered by weekdays
yep, like we have math xday, yday and zday, history xday, kday and jday...
Maybe we have the same school system and i misunderstood what you said, sorry
Aaaaaa why did that beam kill me i was behind the pillar i was behind the pillar
I was this close to beating hades
thiiiiiiiiiiiis close
I noticed it can 'pass' or 'lag' sometimes, maybe that's what happened
yeah the drawn and actual hitbox of pillar may be not 100% accurate
at least it is better than it used to be
The game was unusually kind to me to apologize
I’m about to fight the fury and i already got a rare attack doom boon, the artemis/ares boon duo with leggy ares cast and +1 cast from chaos
Ares cast just turned into Heroic rarity
If i don’t mess up i might have an actual shot
And i just got flurry shot
This run literally just turned into “hold left button to kill the entire screen”
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/696559478358933504/701798386407309412/IMG20200420202931.jpg
had this dialogue earlier, found it kinda interesting so 🤔
It’s less of a spoiler and more ares being smug imo
Being smug about carnage is like 90% of ares’ character
absolute madlad
🤝
(the handshake is ares)
Okay but now im imagining than and zag holding hands with ares each from one side while he skips around and smiles
Ares has TWO HANDS
exactly
But then he’d have no hands to hold his blenders with
zag will hold his blenders with pleasure
Ares holds Zag and Than's hands and Zag holds one blender while Than (reluctantly) holds the other
but, then, wouldnt zag lose his hand?
zag turns into a blender and than tosses in berries and bananas and mangos and stuff and than catches the smoothie just as the call wears off
Oh hey i just met the pretty boy
Ares' Call is just the movie Rubber if they actually nailed the horror aspect
lord I love Ares call
it's a very interesting line because ares is right. and as inherently interesting as the contrast between life/blood and death are, so too are death and war connected so 🤔
puts another note on my 'ares huge crush on than' conspiracy board
conspiracy board fjajjfks
Ares just has a thing for death
kam with that meme with the board I can't think of it atm I just woke up
that line has me seeing Ares as the third wheel to thanzag 😂
ares: fine. its okay if you dont feel that way about me
than: 
ares: ill just go ask out your MOM see if i care
than: 
HMGVHJFVHJ
third blender*
tfw ur too busy upstairs doing ur thing so that ur cousin snatches ur crush and ur like "well damn guess his mom is hot too"
I actually shifted to ares/than preference over than/zag bc the more I thought about it the more I liked the potential dynamic there, and ares has the ability to be a gentleman if he so chooses, and the idea of than getting swept up in that (once he realizes at all that, oh, wait this isn't about work huh) is the funniest thing to me BUUUT I digress
actually I wanted to say before I got sidetracked with ares
ares: hey zag have you ever held hands with thanatos
zag: ☺️ haha yeah... why-
ares: i need a full description of it 3 page minimum
hjfhjfhj SO valid
I've been digging into hypnos lore for fic purposes and my main takeaway so far is that... He is honestly a lot more powerful than he's given credit for so now I'm looking back at hades hypnos like. Dang. hades really has a twinkle referred to as conqueror of the gods in his house huh!
TWINK
GOD when Zag gets with Ares Ares is like "nice choice bro... didn't see it comin tho..."
a twinkle..............
hgvhgfvhjfvjh twinkle twinkle little star
yes
and YEAH hyp is powerful
twinkle twinkle little sleep
how i like to count your sheep
Aw
Sheep companion pls
you know what we as a community need to acknowledge? hypnos taller than zag
I refuse
HES BIG
Zag is smal
I DO NOT SEE IT
you refuse to see the TRUTH......hypnos is skinny but hes tall about it!!!!!
manlet theseus valid
Technically speaking I think zag is just inherently small due to gameplay purposes but I was actually saying to someone last night I hope we get like some kind of height chart or smth after full launch
zag scoops hyp up in his arms and hypnos leans over and crawls down his back like a cat
anyway whoops got carried away and said a bad word there 🤡
Every once in a while i forget Than is ripped and I get punched when i see him
oh god
hjgvhjfvhjfvhjfvhj
can you imagine body type switched Hypnos and Than
godddddd
than is ripped he gotta swing that scythe all day
its HEAVY
things we also gotta take a moment and remember: dusa big
back to the earlier conversation I really do like Ares/Than although it's like... crack 😳
yes. dusa lorge
I'm sorry I can't think of a body switch without hypnos marvelling down at his new exposed nip staring out into the world
and they were coworkers.... (omg they were coworkers)
thanhermes also good tbh like. the web of psychopomp drama
@lone hamlet ao3 user brachydios and I have many a talk about this, perhaps one day a fic may happen
I bought zac song but Orpheus doesnt sing
its just the boring melody
that goes like clank clank, clank clank really boring
rip 4 diamonds
than is just v shippable in my eyes but that's maybe just because he embodies 90% of my favorite character tropesn😳
ares (BIG HEART EYES) -> than (meh) edit to say this is just imo if u hc him loving ares back ur valid as HELL
than (i want him to care me....) -> hermes (he cute i guess but i dont have the time to wait around while he has emotions)
charon (UR THE ONLY ONE WHO GETS ME) -> hermes (BBY U AR MY AAANGEL)
kam did u ever see the art of zag hugging a very lorge friend shaped dusa
WHAT...PROBABLY BUT PLS SHOW ME AGAIN
you mean Charon (HRGHHHHHH) -> Hermes (BABY YOU UNDERSTAND MEEEE)
HGVFGHFCHGFCGHFD TRU
wait no
charon will sing tequila at karaoke and hermes will clap evry single time
Charon (HRGGH) -> Hermes (AND EVERYTIME WE KISS I SWEAR I COULD FLY)
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 
they also did that hypnos with asterius daki, so yknow, quality content
I like to think Dusa is about Aegis sized
that has me picturing Dusa on one of those cleaning robot thingies
Dusa... on a roomba
dusa roomba omg...
speed cleaning 
ok but the concept of Aegis as a sled: Zag using Aegis to waterski via Charon's boat
the face on the front: [gargling noises]
ah
Charon: (also gargling noise)
hhhhhhhhhhhh Zag n Dusa hug...... 😭 💖
The art is so good too I Love the line quality
And Dusa's snakes? Sublime. Majestic, beautiful
def check out their other works! There's asterius and theseus, hypnos with asterius daki, zag and hypnos, and ace attorney hades
well not hades as in hades himself but you get the idea
omg...
OH also dusa curling orpheus's hair
OMG THE HYPNOZAG SNUGGLES.....
they're holding hands 🥺 I wanna hold hands with hypnos................
Finally I get to see some of Theseus and Asterius 🥰
@brave moat i forgot there's two events like that involving meg
the first one implies ||meg used to be zag's gf and she was grabbing her stuff from his room||
I've had all the conversations possible with Sisyphus and gave him nectar for days, still no reduced sentence option showing up in the shop. Anyone else took a lot of runs until it showed up?
I've had all the conversations possible with Sisyphus and gave him nectar for days, still no reduced sentence option showing up in the shop. Anyone else took a lot of runs until it showed up?
I've just made this quest, on my 90th run I guess
You need to talk to Nyx also
I mean literally every quest involves Nyx doing something because you asked
i talk to anyone and everyone between runs
sisyphus just doesn't come up
guess it might take a few more runs for random conversation triggers
guess it might take a few more runs for random conversation triggers
just keep on it
I mean, if I keep fighting my overpowered father to escape and die at a loading screen, you know I'll keep talking until I release a king!
Idk why me popping into this server reminded me... but I'm almost done getting all the possible cosmetics for the House (as of this current update. I already expecting BIG things... unless it's mostly narrative and Charon stops looking like he's trying to be Thanatos' stan).
The lounge renovations help you romance best girl though ||except you can’t||
Do the heads that hades throw out count as traps for sure footing?
nope
They’re projectiles
You can even deflect them for some sweet sweet skull tennis
i think the urns count as trap damage
the shockwave from hades' casts disappearing also used to count as trap damage
they probably still do but i'm not sure
yes they are
if you athena the skulls before they hit the ground they bounce back
it's a small-ish window but you can totally athena them back, discovered it by accident
lol aspect of zeus is super weird
i know @thorny surge its just not what i was asking about
Horst is asking if the shockwaves which appear after the timer on the skulls reach 0 count as trap damage (I'm not really sure myself)
hey
i see in the "next major update" there are 19 aspects of the 6 main weapons
what is the 19 aspect and for what weapon?
what is the 19 aspect and for what weapon?
The truth is:
only devs know
but I hope it's shield
bc I want more shield
ahshfjfj
but you have to retrieve the shield afterwards
yes.
i prefer zeus tbh
just bc i can make it go the other way and clean up one part while it does damage somewhere else
I mostly play spear/sword/bow, but farming some titan blood atm
nice! man i need to farm Everything
do you know how to farm quickly titan blood?
get gud?
do several runs with different weapons at different heat levels since that resets the rewards
the pact is still the best way to grind titan blood
you can also try and save 1,5k coins to buy titan blood from charon's styx shop (if he has that bc sometimes he doesnt) and keep an eye on the broker's deals
what is the pact? ^^'
Have you escaped at least once? @astral tinsel
no xDDDD
If you do, you will unlock the Pact of Punishments. It adds more challenge to your future escape attempts in exchange of getting more bounties (Titan Blood, Diamond and Ambrosia)
yeah, it lets you get penalties in order to make future runs more challenging
in exchange it resets the boss bounties so you can claim rewards all over again
there's several restrictions on it so you can't exploit it, imo they managed to find a nice spot between challenging and rewarding
Good luck in beating the FB 🍀
I see fb and my brain immediately reads it as facebook so I was like huh???
hadesbook 🤧
(takes out hades social media au from dusty chest) yeah you were saying
lol facebook
