#h1-story-discussion | Supergiant Games | Page 127

fiery flower Feb 9, 2020, 6:14 PM

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Yea. That lead to a convo about Hades- Zag relationship.

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@haughty carbon we sort of do.

deep spoke Feb 9, 2020, 6:14 PM

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He's not pure evil despite the fact he does bad things, is the point

fiery flower Feb 9, 2020, 6:14 PM

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hades doesn't want Zag to reach the surface for reasons related to his mother.

wild fiber Feb 9, 2020, 6:14 PM

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yeah,and that's how most storytellers would have gone with it

deep spoke Feb 9, 2020, 6:15 PM

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The story keeps reminding us of this

fiery flower Feb 9, 2020, 6:15 PM

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After Zag made the realization that he's related to Demeter and confronted Hades about this.

bleak osprey Feb 9, 2020, 6:15 PM

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y'know what, i'm out, enjoy the conversation

deep spoke Feb 9, 2020, 6:15 PM

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What even

burnt halo Feb 9, 2020, 6:15 PM

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no one said it excuses the trauma hades has caused, but they're also immortal in both senses of the word, and morally other as well

fiery flower Feb 9, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Hades just be like "you are better off not knowing for everyone's sake"

wild fiber Feb 9, 2020, 6:15 PM

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until I beat hades the first time I thought persephone was actually locked up inside the west hall. Funny, right?

dawn ore Feb 9, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Is there any further dialogue after Zag confronts Hades about Demeter being his grandmother?

fiery flower Feb 9, 2020, 6:15 PM

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there's a hint of fear of retribution in that line

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yes

deep spoke Feb 9, 2020, 6:15 PM

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I haven't hit that point yet

fiery flower Feb 9, 2020, 6:15 PM

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I got that screened

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@dawn ore wanna see?

dawn ore Feb 9, 2020, 6:16 PM

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'cause like it's been like 10 or so runs after I confronted him

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Yeah sure

deep spoke Feb 9, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Or I forgot the convo

burnt halo Feb 9, 2020, 6:16 PM

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i haven't gotten that dialogue either

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also, why tf did sparrow just leave

deep spoke Feb 9, 2020, 6:16 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

burnt halo Feb 9, 2020, 6:16 PM

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like, no one was saying it wasn't bad

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just that context makes it different

faint socket Feb 9, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Hey, be nice

deep spoke Feb 9, 2020, 6:17 PM

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quite honestly I feel like that was, deliberate or not, a misreading of what was actually being said.

faint socket Feb 9, 2020, 6:17 PM

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If the topic is making them uncomfortable, they’re allowed to leave.

deep spoke Feb 9, 2020, 6:17 PM

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not disputing that, just saying, a lot of us had points taken WILDLY out of context in a manner that was a bit rude

burnt halo Feb 9, 2020, 6:17 PM

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i agree with that, but from what i understand, that's not why they left

deep spoke Feb 9, 2020, 6:18 PM

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or came off as such

faint socket Feb 9, 2020, 6:18 PM

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This might be a good time to change the topic, friends.

dawn ore Feb 9, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Why won't Asterius give me his damn autograph? Hypno's asked me for it multiple times already lol

sharp axle Feb 9, 2020, 6:19 PM

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RNG? I feel like a lot of the scripted conversations are super RNG based

burnt halo Feb 9, 2020, 6:19 PM

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it just takes a while yh

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eventually zagreus brings it up

sharp axle Feb 9, 2020, 6:19 PM

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It took me like a full week of playing the game before Meg decided to grace me with her scripted conversations

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and two weeks for Dusa

deep spoke Feb 9, 2020, 6:20 PM

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I got the autograph once and then Zag told Hypnos he still didn't have it.

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:/

dawn ore Feb 9, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Lmao

burnt halo Feb 9, 2020, 6:20 PM

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kek

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zagreus wanted it for himself

fiery flower Feb 9, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Do you have to die in order to trigger that convo?

dawn ore Feb 9, 2020, 6:20 PM

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I mean

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Yeah

burnt halo Feb 9, 2020, 6:20 PM

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i mean, you always die

dawn ore Feb 9, 2020, 6:20 PM

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For the sake of moving the Hypno's autograph quest I purposely died to Asterius multiple times

deep spoke Feb 9, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Asterius just acts like he has nothing to say to me now, other than "k let's fight"

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Not sure if my flags are just busted.

dawn ore Feb 9, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Ikr

wild fiber Feb 9, 2020, 6:21 PM

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I didn't see thanatos for over thirty runs. I thought I had bugged the game out, tbh.

dawn ore Feb 9, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Does Asterius give you the autograph if he's in his shiny armor?

sharp axle Feb 9, 2020, 6:21 PM

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I didn't see Than until I pumped the game up to 5 heat

dawn ore Feb 9, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Laughs in 32 heat

burnt halo Feb 9, 2020, 6:22 PM

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speaking of

sharp axle Feb 9, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Everyone else was talking about him and stuff, and I'm like I STIll Dont see himm

burnt halo Feb 9, 2020, 6:22 PM

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i love the "you made heat gauge cry" line

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it's the best

deep spoke Feb 9, 2020, 6:22 PM

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the WHAT

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I haven't heard that

burnt halo Feb 9, 2020, 6:23 PM

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oh hol up lemme get it

dawn ore Feb 9, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Yeah well... making the heat gauge cry will make you cry trying to run it

burnt halo Feb 9, 2020, 6:23 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/LR5gIF2

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it's not an actual voiced line

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unfortunately

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(i wish hades said it)

atomic forge Feb 9, 2020, 6:24 PM

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49 heat?!

burnt halo Feb 9, 2020, 6:24 PM

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but it's the best piece of text in the game lmao

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i haven't actually gotten up to 49 heat

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it's only if you go significantly over

atomic forge Feb 9, 2020, 6:25 PM

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i thought 45 was the max sweatsip ?!

burnt halo Feb 9, 2020, 6:25 PM

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n, 49

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50 in hell mode

atomic forge Feb 9, 2020, 6:25 PM

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ohhh i see! thank you! didn’t know that

burnt halo Feb 9, 2020, 6:26 PM

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not sure what it was they changed

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but the long winter update shifted around heat values

atomic forge Feb 9, 2020, 6:26 PM

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im curious now

deep spoke Feb 9, 2020, 6:26 PM

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rofl

atomic forge Feb 9, 2020, 6:26 PM

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gotta check

deep spoke Feb 9, 2020, 6:26 PM

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that's incredible

wild fiber Feb 9, 2020, 6:26 PM

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will they add more enemies? Kydnides could be a cool foe.

burnt halo Feb 9, 2020, 6:26 PM

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ikr?

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it's my favorite thing in the game rn

wild fiber Feb 9, 2020, 6:26 PM

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(water nymphs of the underworld's rivers)

burnt halo Feb 9, 2020, 6:27 PM

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ah, it was no choice

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that gained heat

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and hard labor i think

wicked pier Feb 9, 2020, 7:33 PM

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what did Hades call his new spear once you showed him the Guan Yu aspect of Varatha? He said something like "__X__ does not need fancy transformations to be effective"

drifting citrus Feb 9, 2020, 7:34 PM

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gigaros, i believe

deep spoke Feb 9, 2020, 7:35 PM

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I know what giga means, but what's the -ros part in Greek

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Wait

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That's a Sailor Moon character. Are you absolutely sure it's spelled that way...

wicked pier Feb 9, 2020, 7:37 PM

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thanks; i was scratching my head and went over the journal for it. It should be mentioned in the journal.

flint marten Feb 9, 2020, 8:19 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/457639241615409173/676160218639368192/unknown.png Silly Hypnos

hollow mortar Feb 9, 2020, 8:29 PM

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I feel bad for Hades when he finds out Thanatos has been abetting Zagreus failbag

fiery flower Feb 9, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Even my own contractor.

fresh tapir Feb 9, 2020, 9:03 PM

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is it normal that thanatos can appear in the house, but uninteractable?

fading garnet Feb 9, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Where in the house? His usual spot?

fresh tapir Feb 9, 2020, 9:23 PM

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to the left of the main hall, near achilles

flint marten Feb 9, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Yeah, usual spot. Not sure about the uninteractable part

fresh tapir Feb 9, 2020, 9:44 PM

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no option for talk/gift, and no dialog on approach

heady rain Feb 9, 2020, 9:52 PM

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you probably already talked/gifted him earlier

atomic forge Feb 9, 2020, 9:58 PM

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So Zag banged both mag and than?

fiery flower Feb 9, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Shagreus

fading hazel Feb 9, 2020, 10:08 PM

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why can't i gift than t^t? every time i see his in the hall or after death approaches he immediately runs away

atomic forge Feb 9, 2020, 10:10 PM

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It's entirely possible, @atomic forge

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LOL

wild fiber Feb 9, 2020, 10:48 PM

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you can gift him during a run as long as you do it before talking to him.

chilly shard Feb 10, 2020, 12:10 AM

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wait what

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you can??

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i was litrally about to come in here to complain about how difficult it is for me to gift to thanny poo

wild fiber Feb 10, 2020, 12:12 AM

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at least the first time you give him stuff for sure, is how i got the pierced butterfly

chilly shard Feb 10, 2020, 12:16 AM

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yeah i did once

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but now i cant like

wild fiber Feb 10, 2020, 12:23 AM

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Yeh, I've had the bug of than sitting in the house and cold-shouldering me too

supple dagger Feb 10, 2020, 12:33 AM

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So I have no clue what the plans are in terms of the fishing thing, but I think they should consider adding a tiny slot where "boons" are listed. And have that list off any and all fishes caught during the run.

coarse stone Feb 10, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Imagine Zag trying to fish and ending up fishing up Than

fiery flower Feb 10, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Hol up

coarse stone Feb 10, 2020, 12:51 AM

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(Or Dusa. She'd be the right size for it.)

tame bronze Feb 10, 2020, 12:54 AM

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I'll do you one better fishing with Than or Dusa.

zealous spindle Feb 10, 2020, 12:54 AM

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I guess Than would have to go swimming sometimes in order to reap the souls of people dying in submarines or diving accidents thanthink

coarse stone Feb 10, 2020, 12:55 AM

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Fishing with Than would have Than dryly remarking that the bordom is literally killing him

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and Dusa would probably just jump in the water and fish with her snake heads

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and "Zag, I was in the midst of dealing with a drowned soul. Did you have a particular reason that you fished me out?"

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"Nope! Just wanted to see you, Than!"

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Or even doing one better

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fishing out Persephone

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or Tisiphone

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The former would probably annoy Hades that Persephone was hiding in plain sight. The latter would be "murder"

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 1:44 AM

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Than finally taught me this particular trick https://imgur.com/5NZHIw5

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runic terrace Feb 10, 2020, 1:54 AM

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what how

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 1:54 AM

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figured I'd give modding a shot

runic terrace Feb 10, 2020, 1:55 AM

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ohh

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 1:57 AM

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ooo

supple dagger Feb 10, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Scythe with the Aspect of Thanatos. You throw a charged scythe, throw it, and then they're Marked for Death

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 1:57 AM

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https://imgur.com/hvqAYBP

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Hell yeah

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Yeet

supple dagger Feb 10, 2020, 1:58 AM

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GOD

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But also, it's what he deserves

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 1:58 AM

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He still won't die!

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 1:59 AM

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i tried modding to fix hades aspect in the way that seemed right to me https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/548318455695278123/676056555153522688/unknown.png

supple dagger Feb 10, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Every since someone pointed out that Thanatos has a sword in the mythos, I can never not think about how his sprite does have a sword.

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 1:59 AM

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i crit for 1000 damage in chamber 2 and thought yeah maybe there's a reason it's not like this

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 1:59 AM

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haha lol

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I wonder if I can create a custom aspect of Thanatos

burnt halo Feb 10, 2020, 2:00 AM

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make it for the sword!

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Rofl @main gulch

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 2:01 AM

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was definitely more fun though

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since it was possible to have the damage bonus with flurry jab

supple dagger Feb 10, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Now, thinking about it, Aspect of Thanatos where Special is replaced with that Ring of Death.

fiery flower Feb 10, 2020, 2:03 AM

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With a really long count down so you don't abuse it

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say if something is still in there after 30 seconds it just die

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 2:04 AM

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That's what it currently is @supple dagger

fiery flower Feb 10, 2020, 2:04 AM

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if boss then take 1k damage

supple dagger Feb 10, 2020, 2:04 AM

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ooo

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 2:04 AM

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It isn't aspect specific rn tho

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 2:04 AM

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That would be an excellent mod for an aspect

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 2:04 AM

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Need to fix damage though lel

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It'd insta any boss

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 2:05 AM

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not with the damage gates

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 2:05 AM

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But with special bons :)

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Make the trigger "finish Thanatos' relationship either way" to unlock, write a small unvoiced set of dialogue, and script it in?

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Maybe like long cooldown and 750 base dmg

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 2:06 AM

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"ay yo zag my man here my sword"
"ah ye thanks bro"
"yw"

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 2:06 AM

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That would be super sick, having an actual miniplot based path to an Omega Doom

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 2:06 AM

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im a bit of a writer myself

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Hades spin attack for Hades aspect spear ;3?

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 2:07 AM

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@supple dagger on another note, Thanathots*?

supple dagger Feb 10, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Heheheheeheheh

junior field Feb 10, 2020, 2:08 AM

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@main gulch the problem is, why would you ever take anything for the spin?

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 2:08 AM

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whatcha mean

junior field Feb 10, 2020, 2:08 AM

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you need spin speed to make it useful

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that's a hammer down, a hammer that could've been used to enhance the attack or special

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 2:09 AM

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oh you're saying it doesn't matter if the spin attack is really strong since nobody uses it anyway?

junior field Feb 10, 2020, 2:10 AM

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yep

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Is it just me or does the game take a really long time to load up?

junior field Feb 10, 2020, 2:11 AM

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I can't really judge on that front since I'm on a 10 yo PC with a hard drive

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but once it loads, transitions are quick

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 2:12 AM

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yeah

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 2:15 AM

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Because quick spin is still very strong

junior field Feb 10, 2020, 2:22 AM

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but in the time it takes you to do the spin you could perform the entire 3 hit combo

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it's only 20 less damage than max spin yet it is much faster and far more flexible

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 2:22 AM

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with the buff the combo is 50/50/75 and the spin is 250

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considering my mod anyway

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so that might make it worthwhile

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just want hades aspect to a lil more useful

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a good attack aspect

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rather than a nothing

junior field Feb 10, 2020, 2:24 AM

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I'm not disagreeing with the notion that Hades is garbo

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I'm disagreeing with the notion that the spin needs to be catered to

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because the spin is bad

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and the only reason it's not bad on GY is because the weapon is very flexible

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plus, the hammer limitation imposed by GY make it easier to find spin speed

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 2:26 AM

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I mean, it should be buffed then

junior field Feb 10, 2020, 2:26 AM

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I'm of the opinion that the spin speed hammer should be the default spin speed (or maybe just a lil slower), and the spin speed hammer should be removed

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Spin speed default and reduce base damage or do you think it's fine?

junior field Feb 10, 2020, 2:28 AM

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in addition, Flurry should be removed from Hades pool of hammers, same as GY's, and Hades mark should work on the dash attack as well

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 2:29 AM

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It does work for dash

junior field Feb 10, 2020, 2:29 AM

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that would make Hades a flex choice: attack, dash attack, and spin

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does it? It says attack and special

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 2:29 AM

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It does say that but it works trust me thumbsup

junior field Feb 10, 2020, 2:31 AM

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oh yeah, it does

fleet wind Feb 10, 2020, 2:31 AM

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I love the spear spin, for the record. Just a matter of getting the right boon on it, even without hammer upgrades

junior field Feb 10, 2020, 2:31 AM

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should probably be added to its tooltip then

fleet wind Feb 10, 2020, 2:31 AM

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athena spear spin is a game changer

junior field Feb 10, 2020, 2:32 AM

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I find it inviable with 40% Forced Overtime

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just like I did when FO capped at 50%

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 2:34 AM

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The hades spin should buff itself.

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Does it?

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 2:35 AM

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No

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 2:35 AM

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It does feel like it should be the opposite of how it works though

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Only attack, dash attack and special

fleet wind Feb 10, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Because the Doom damage isn't coming from the special itself

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Where spin is currently just a primer and not the focus

junior field Feb 10, 2020, 2:35 AM

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that's the gist

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Well I'll release some weird mods like this eventually

junior field Feb 10, 2020, 2:36 AM

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you use the spin once and then you're supposed to poke em

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kinda like Chiron bow

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 2:36 AM

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So even if SGG doesn't change it up people can try it

junior field Feb 10, 2020, 2:36 AM

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attack and then spam the special

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but where Chiron doesn't need any hammers to make bow's attack fast, the spear spin does

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Do you think if the spear was quick spin fast normally would it be op

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 2:38 AM

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@junior field That is the issue, because Hades aspect in concept feels like it should be about the spin

junior field Feb 10, 2020, 2:38 AM

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well, the spin doesn't buff itself

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so there wouldn't be an incentive to go for a spin build

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Making a wacky balance patch mod sounds like fun so if you have any ideas to fix some weapons up pls lemme know

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Like bad weapons or bad hammers

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Where do they hide the good stuff

junior field Feb 10, 2020, 2:42 AM

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I don't really get SGG's aspect balancing stuff

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 2:45 AM

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The good stuff?

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 2:45 AM

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dmg modifiers

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Er one specifically or in general?

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Just in general

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 2:47 AM

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There's an add damage modifiers function

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In somewhere

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Idk I'm not actually home rn

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Heh

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I thought I had looked somewhere

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 2:48 AM

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It's always in the last somewhere you look

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Most likely

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Unless I don't stop looking when I find it

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 2:50 AM

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Tru

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 2:55 AM

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are some friendships not progressable?

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past the hearts with ...

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Yeah some relationship thingies aren't fulfillable atm

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dang

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:(

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I've had chaos say "hmm idk maybe, I'll think about it cya" when talking about nyx but nothing has happened after 8 runs

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Same 😢

junior field Feb 10, 2020, 2:57 AM

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the game is still in dev

main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 2:58 AM

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"..." means there's more hearts to unlock

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if there's a heart with a keyhole it means there's a requirement you're missing

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if there's a heart with a clock it means it's not in the game yet

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Not sure how I feel about this https://imgur.com/CZNO3Q2

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main gulch Feb 10, 2020, 3:01 AM

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styx poison sword huh lol

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 3:01 AM

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yus

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oh okay thank you NekoHeart

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I wonder what the anonymous logs sent look like after this 🤔

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also lmao

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https://imgur.com/AfLDfrY

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Hades laser beam sword

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 3:09 AM

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@atomic forge lava pls

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Also laser rail

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Make the rail into hades laser

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Aspect of Helios

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 3:09 AM

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Haha

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 3:09 AM

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Or! Shield with a replacement for Bull Rush

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But with a fixed time

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Like 3 seconds?

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1 to 5...

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Aspect of Amaterasu, divine reflector

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Laser shield?

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What do we want lava?

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 3:12 AM

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...lava spear or something

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No wait.

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Laser shield. Lava rail.

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Lava grenade?

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Special becomes a fireball

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Low base damage and the scaling DoT

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Man, this sounds so fun

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Lava shield ;O

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Imagine chaos shield

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5 fireballs

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 3:13 AM

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OP stronk

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 3:13 AM

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I need to create mod aspects soon tho for these

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 3:13 AM

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But nah I just want a sun themed shield aspect

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Because of all my Okami jokes

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Hopefully this works

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Is there a teleporting effect...

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Hades shadow poof?

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Sure

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Should be a thing

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 3:15 AM

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Shadow spear that lets you get a HUGE backstab bonus and slows enemies around the endpoint

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Like achilles but teleports to endpoint

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So you can throw, warp behind someone, and stab them

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 3:15 AM

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Well the fireball shield works

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but I broke the animation

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 3:16 AM

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Try rail.

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Because special is literally the same type of attack as fireball.

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 3:16 AM

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yeh

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 3:17 AM

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Bow: The firebombs in a cluster?

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Aspect of BOOM

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 3:17 AM

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Chiron homing firebombs

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 3:18 AM

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What other special/unique attacks-

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Wait

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No

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Poison pool bow

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 3:19 AM

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Poison bow coming right up

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Hopefully

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I mean... https://imgur.com/NoooEnf

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deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 3:25 AM

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Fair and 🅱️alanced

wild fiber Feb 10, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Poison bow...you mean, like...dionysus?

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 3:29 AM

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Mhmmmm

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Opinions? https://streamable.com/djoit

Streamable

Bow!! - Streamable

▶ Play video

tall ingot Feb 10, 2020, 3:38 AM

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Ohh God, reading Wikipedia just explained for me why there is a moon on the surface mirrored on the water huh

fiery flower Feb 10, 2020, 3:41 AM

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Idk how or why

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but whenever I talk to Demeter she keep releasing bits about Persephone.

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Latest piece mentioned Helios saying something about Persephone entered the underworld.

tall ingot Feb 10, 2020, 3:42 AM

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On Wikipedia read about ||Melinoë||

fiery flower Feb 10, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Oh lord

runic terrace Feb 10, 2020, 3:52 AM

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please dont discuss that here!

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 3:53 AM

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Wasn't planning to leak anything!

runic terrace Feb 10, 2020, 3:54 AM

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thank you! even so, i think talk abt things inside files is best done privately squirtyay

tall ingot Feb 10, 2020, 3:59 AM

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Mili1 do you create an mods or just doing things for fun?

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 3:59 AM

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Just messing around right now

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But I might create mods for this

tall ingot Feb 10, 2020, 3:59 AM

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You could be able to copy some functiom from transistor tho

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 3:59 AM

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This is my first game from supergiant so uhh

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Anything in particular?

tall ingot Feb 10, 2020, 4:00 AM

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Transistor uses the same code

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It's great game and there are many effect which you potentially would use in hades

fiery flower Feb 10, 2020, 4:00 AM

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wot

tall ingot Feb 10, 2020, 4:01 AM

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Transistor 'functions' also have great ability to be modified

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 4:01 AM

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Why not just use the stuff from Hades tho?

tall ingot Feb 10, 2020, 4:02 AM

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Cuz it create nothing new

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I mean, you will create new mechanic

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But with old vfx etc

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I even was able to replace Zag with Red (main hero from transistor) but she was walking like under the floor heh

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Simple file swap

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 4:04 AM

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I'm trying to create custom aspects

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for funsies

tall ingot Feb 10, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Also there is someone who can help you but I guess he maybe already tried to speak with you heh

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 4:11 AM

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Whomst?

tall ingot Feb 10, 2020, 4:11 AM

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@austere fox

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You can find a link to him Hades modding discord

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In #self-promotion

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Nice

austere fox Feb 10, 2020, 7:43 AM

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yes?

junior field Feb 10, 2020, 8:12 AM

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mili's modding stuff

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 9:01 AM

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Mod that needs to be made, on that note

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Dionysus' lines replaced with Dio Brando

heady rain Feb 10, 2020, 9:31 AM

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change sisyphus' summon to drop a road roller instead

elder needle Feb 10, 2020, 10:51 AM

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Just a quick idea, I wonder how Hades will feel if Zag never ever fails in a run in a save

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 10:52 AM

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ask genesis

elder needle Feb 10, 2020, 10:52 AM

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including the very first run

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 10:52 AM

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oh

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some other dude did first run on new save.

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idk if it had special dialogue

elder needle Feb 10, 2020, 10:52 AM

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the ordinary dialogue lines should sound super funny

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Hades be like hey you can't escape from...uh...

zealous spindle Feb 10, 2020, 10:54 AM

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I don't think there are currently voice lines for that. And some of the voice lines don't make sense if you never lose. For instance, I've never lost to Meg but she still has said the dialog when facing her that was something like 'come for me to kill you again?' or whatever

elder needle Feb 10, 2020, 10:55 AM

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imagine Than and Hypnos seeing Hades coming out of the pool every time Zag says "bye people"

tall ingot Feb 10, 2020, 12:40 PM

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But zag always fails... He dies right after last boss huh

fiery flower Feb 10, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Killed by a rampaging narrative device.

unique solar Feb 10, 2020, 4:07 PM

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i give up, someone tell me. how do i get Meg's summon?

drifting citrus Feb 10, 2020, 4:13 PM

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win against her a bunch and keep talking to her, but first max out her nectar hearts until you see a locked heart

fiery flower Feb 10, 2020, 5:58 PM

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thanthink

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Any of you ever thought about how SGG might integrate the Zagreus-must-die thing once we got the full ending?

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 5:59 PM

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I suggested it. Random Easter egg on death

fiery flower Feb 10, 2020, 5:59 PM

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The full ending.

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 6:00 PM

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...yes. Just random, non-canonical easter eggs on being killed by the respective bosses.

fiery flower Feb 10, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Ah yea.

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Oh wait. You mean the actual continuation of the game? I mean, they could well just write him a reason to go back.

tall ingot Feb 10, 2020, 6:00 PM

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DEMETER

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Demyeeter

fiery flower Feb 10, 2020, 6:01 PM

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I'm thinking of something like an arcane-powered restraining order where Zag's head explode if he is within 60 feet of his mom or something.

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Or he just ages rapidly in the presence of his mom.

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Rofl

fiery flower Feb 10, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Something that makes him want to get out of the underworld again and again

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Or, you know

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He works out that deal with Charon and escapes for fun after meeting mom

fiery flower Feb 10, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Just to make daddy Hades angry out of spite

deep spoke Feb 10, 2020, 6:02 PM

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And addressing how screwed up his family is.

fiery flower Feb 10, 2020, 6:03 PM

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I could see that being something SGG might go for

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though the "fatal restraining order" thing would fit in better with him dying repeatedly

signal palm Feb 10, 2020, 6:07 PM

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he gets too cold and has to go back for a coat

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but when he leaves he forgets the coat

coarse stone Feb 10, 2020, 6:55 PM

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He runs into Than and has finds himself back in the pool

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(and Than facepalming)

hollow garden Feb 10, 2020, 7:12 PM

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win against her a bunch and keep talking to her, but first max out her nectar hearts until you see a locked heart

Since the dialogue is very focused on Meg and her sisters and their relationship, I'm assuming you have to specifically beat Meg with the Extreme Measures condition active (with at least 1 point). I cannot directly confirm this though. (Doing this worked for me, but I can't confirm its required)

heady rain Feb 10, 2020, 7:15 PM

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beating meg with extreme measures only just makes her appear more frequently at the house to speed up the required dialogue iirc

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it's not required, but it helps to expedite the process

hollow garden Feb 10, 2020, 7:16 PM

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oh is she guaranteed to show up if she's a support sister?

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That would make a lot of sense to why I randomly see meg in the house lol

heady rain Feb 10, 2020, 7:16 PM

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i think so? at least that's what i remember

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because i turned on extreme measures to make romancing faster

hollow garden Feb 10, 2020, 7:17 PM

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i would call it required anyways, cause it took me like 15 runs even with extreme measures

heady rain Feb 10, 2020, 7:17 PM

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as long she shows up as a support sister

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if she doesn't, tough luck

hollow garden Feb 10, 2020, 7:17 PM

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meg was just like "no you dont get to love me, go away" for like 10 hours of gameplay in the update and im just sitting there like shadecry

atomic forge Feb 10, 2020, 9:20 PM

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She still sometimes says that we can't be seen together and I'm just like "...Don't you drag me to bed not infrequently?"

hollow garden Feb 11, 2020, 1:12 AM

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there's no cameras in zag's room

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no one knows kappa

merry sorrel Feb 11, 2020, 1:34 AM

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there is also no door

main gulch Feb 11, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Sound also echoes pretty well

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You can hear orpheus singing still after all

junior field Feb 11, 2020, 1:39 AM

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it's just magic

light ivy Feb 11, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Yeah I mean if his singing/playing continues even when he's not there I can definitely believe it carries more than it naturally would

main hearth Feb 11, 2020, 1:41 AM

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obviously they just go all the way to the fury boss room

hollow mortar Feb 11, 2020, 1:43 AM

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Flashback to Zag & Than’s giggling black screen scene, now with the notion of no door available

runic terrace Feb 11, 2020, 1:44 AM

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obviously orpheus sings twice as loud to cover

hollow garden Feb 11, 2020, 1:45 AM

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nah they're just plucking random notes on the lyre as loud as physically possible to annoy the hell out of dad

runic terrace Feb 11, 2020, 1:45 AM

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hades: court musician you dont have to SHOUT, im getting a headache from your screeching
orpheus: i believe theres never been a better time for loud noises, lord hades!

hollow garden Feb 11, 2020, 1:46 AM

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Zag: "Orpheus told me I had to learn how to play this instrument"
Than: "How does it work"
Zag: "I've got no idea, I just push random strings and it makes noise. It sounds awful, but its better than silence in the house"

main gulch Feb 11, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Wait wait I thought they were just telling each other funny jokes

drifting citrus Feb 11, 2020, 1:54 AM

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orpheus is just a mad belter

long shuttle Feb 11, 2020, 2:03 AM

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WAIT ARE THE SEVEN KEEPSAKES RELATED TO THE SEVEN TYPES OF LOVE APHRODITE TALKS ABOUT?

burnt halo Feb 11, 2020, 2:14 AM

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IN CASE YOU DIDN'T NOTICE YOU'RE TYPING IN ALL CAPS AND SHOULD PROBABLY CALM THE FCK DOWN

long shuttle Feb 11, 2020, 2:14 AM

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I hit send to fast, I actually didn't, my B

burnt halo Feb 11, 2020, 2:15 AM

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aight

atomic forge Feb 11, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Dusa dusa

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dusa

hollow mortar Feb 11, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Dusa for peace

main gulch Feb 11, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Swear filter dodging kannaPolice

trail plinth Feb 11, 2020, 2:44 AM

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oh shizzz, just got a dialogue where grandma says persephone is her daughter squirtyay

fiery flower Feb 11, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Yea it gets deeper

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Helios saw Persephone entering the Underworld

trail plinth Feb 11, 2020, 2:47 AM

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i feel bad that the thing i'm uncontestably looking forward the most in v.1.0 is the whole plot

fiery flower Feb 11, 2020, 2:47 AM

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You have the final weapon

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Pairs of Glocks

trail plinth Feb 11, 2020, 2:49 AM

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we gonna turn into bayonetta

atomic forge Feb 11, 2020, 3:22 AM

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I hope not.

merry sorrel Feb 11, 2020, 3:24 AM

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just the quadruple guns part or also demon pact and hair suit

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because zag is already doing the pact thing, only with gods and boons

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we only need the hair suit

fiery flower Feb 11, 2020, 3:29 AM

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🤔

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How does the Underworld get thread for fabrics and stuffs

merry sorrel Feb 11, 2020, 3:35 AM

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I assume those are born from the concept of people buried with their clothes

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or fibre ghosts

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because otherwise there's implication of gardens for such thing, and we know that plants have trouble growing in hades

haughty carbon Feb 11, 2020, 3:36 AM

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I mean we do have Elysium

main gulch Feb 11, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Plants don't have any trouble growing in elysium or (previously) asphodel meadows

merry sorrel Feb 11, 2020, 3:37 AM

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so I guess Elysium would be where the fabric fibres come from?

main gulch Feb 11, 2020, 3:37 AM

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Maybe I never really thought about it too hard

merry sorrel Feb 11, 2020, 3:37 AM

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I can imagine the very bored dead heroes working over a loom because there's nothing else to do

main gulch Feb 11, 2020, 3:38 AM

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Maybe it's Patroclus's day job

fiery flower Feb 11, 2020, 3:38 AM

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killing shades for their clothes?

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What is this Lord of The Flies stuffs going on in Hades thanthink

junior field Feb 11, 2020, 3:42 AM

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it always seemed weird to me that Asphodel had exploding vases while Elysium had exploding flowers

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shouldn't it be the other way?

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Asphodel is a classic hell now, it'd do well with some hellish vegetation

hollow mortar Feb 11, 2020, 3:49 AM

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I kinda like Meg as the 3rd wheel during a drinking session but that’s just me 😂

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Meg makes the party 🎉

trail plinth Feb 11, 2020, 4:01 AM

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is meg relevant for the main plot?

drifting citrus Feb 11, 2020, 4:03 AM

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the “main plot” is very bare atm, the game is definitely a lot more about the “side” stories you can see, including those about meg

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though i do think meg has some minor lines relating to the main plot at hand

junior field Feb 11, 2020, 4:05 AM

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she's more relevant than Thanatos or Dusa, let alone Skelly

drifting citrus Feb 11, 2020, 4:07 AM

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she’s relevant in that she directly tries to stop you, but if you skipped over all of her lines, nothing of value to the main plot would be lost (not that there’s much to it rn anyways)

junior field Feb 11, 2020, 4:08 AM

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don't her boss lines indicate that she and Zag have history?

main gulch Feb 11, 2020, 4:08 AM

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yes

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all the characters are part of the main plot since they're all in the same story together

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some just have more impact than others

trail plinth Feb 11, 2020, 4:14 AM

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from what i understood, she, than and zag where like A Trio but when they grew up they got too tangled to their responsabilities

junior field Feb 11, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Than and Meg precede Zag by hundreds of years, if not more

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Than is the oldest of the three

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the painting with all of em as children is just an artistic version

trail plinth Feb 11, 2020, 4:18 AM

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there's a painting? :0

merry sorrel Feb 11, 2020, 4:25 AM

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it's in #announcements

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for halloween, both jenzee and joanne posted arts of kiddy hades cast

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wait that's not the painting zeppman217 was referring to or is it

fiery flower Feb 11, 2020, 4:33 AM

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What's the proc condition for the Lyre prophecy?

sharp axle Feb 11, 2020, 4:35 AM

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after every game, try to talk to orpheus, and try to play the lyre at least once, and eventually RNG will grace you with its presences

fiery flower Feb 11, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Thanks.

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My RNG is pretty bad then.

sharp axle Feb 11, 2020, 4:35 AM

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It's the theme for scripted events in this game

junior field Feb 11, 2020, 4:36 AM

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@merry sorrel that's the painting I was referring to. It's available for purchase in the game.

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as a contractor option

fiery flower Feb 11, 2020, 4:36 AM

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which one?

pastel herald Feb 11, 2020, 4:36 AM

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You have to play the lyre 200 times

fiery flower Feb 11, 2020, 4:37 AM

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You can't be serious

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AHK, deliver me from this madness.

merry sorrel Feb 11, 2020, 4:42 AM

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may god of RNG grace you

primal cipher Feb 11, 2020, 5:58 AM

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Quick question about fishing; is the catch pre-determined by the spot or how well you reel it in?

haughty carbon Feb 11, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Seems as of current it's completely rng

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Unless I have gotten it wrong

main gulch Feb 11, 2020, 6:00 AM

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rng, but perfect catches give better rarity

haughty carbon Feb 11, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Do they?

main gulch Feb 11, 2020, 6:00 AM

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yis

haughty carbon Feb 11, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Heard people getting knuckleheads on perfect reel

primal cipher Feb 11, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Cool, good to know. I haven't gotten a legendary fish yet and I wasn't sure if I was bad or RNG. It seems like a bit of both

main gulch Feb 11, 2020, 6:01 AM

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yeah cause knucklehead is a "rare" quality fish

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good catches give you common or rare

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perfect catches give you rare or legendary

ripe pewter Feb 11, 2020, 6:28 AM

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hey, theseus' spear isn't supposed to stick around after he dies, is it? double checking before i submit an f10

junior field Feb 11, 2020, 6:29 AM

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it might if he didn't recall it

ripe pewter Feb 11, 2020, 6:30 AM

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hhh i'll submit it to be safe i guess

deep spoke Feb 11, 2020, 6:42 AM

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@main hearth What is in the sacks?

main hearth Feb 11, 2020, 6:42 AM

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just vermin

junior field Feb 11, 2020, 6:42 AM

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you guys don't hear the squeaking sound?

signal palm Feb 11, 2020, 6:43 AM

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not really? it's usually blocked by breaking pots or a boon/the fountain

deep spoke Feb 11, 2020, 6:46 AM

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So it's a giant sack of crawlers?

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also rofl the crawler entry

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'...The barrier between the land of the living and the land of the dead cannot be easily transgressed; but there are creatures adequately small and vicious as to rise up to the challenge (as well as to the challenge of being slain in great droves by would-be heroes setting forth to prove themselves, all in the name of Experience). They crawl between the cracks and crevices of the facade that separates the Master's Underworld from lands above, growing in number, oblivious to the hallowed grounds they foul.'

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I like how there's a joke about killing rats for XP in here

junior field Feb 11, 2020, 6:49 AM

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too bad there are no boars in Hades

main hearth Feb 11, 2020, 6:51 AM

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what outstanding RPG doesn't make you slay rats for experience at some point

signal palm Feb 11, 2020, 6:52 AM

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probably some sci-fi ones

deep spoke Feb 11, 2020, 6:53 AM

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Why boars?

main gulch Feb 11, 2020, 6:53 AM

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No doubt with a space rat equivalent

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Boars are just another typically level 1 enemy

deep spoke Feb 11, 2020, 6:57 AM

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I thought it was more about rabbits or slimes or something

atomic forge Feb 11, 2020, 6:57 AM

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Show of hands, who else played MapleStory?

deep spoke Feb 11, 2020, 6:57 AM

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I haven't encountered boars as the level one mook

main gulch Feb 11, 2020, 6:59 AM

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hearteyesmush

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take this in lieu of my hand raised

haughty carbon Feb 11, 2020, 7:07 AM

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For some reason Maple Story is region blocked for me. :/

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But yeah

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Slaying rats is lit

twin flare Feb 11, 2020, 7:13 AM

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is it rng for meg to be in your room to deepen relationship

atomic forge Feb 11, 2020, 7:16 AM

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You have to fight her a number of times, but beyond that, yes.

junior field Feb 11, 2020, 8:08 AM

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@deep spoke it's a reference to a South Park episode where they were playing World of Warcraft and farming boars to reach max level.

wintry goblet Feb 11, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Sooo i tried Harder bosses on 3. Sisters was fine. Hydra Harder but ok.

But the next Fight. Lmao. I wasnt ready.

signal palm Feb 11, 2020, 4:30 PM

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experiencing that for the first time was the best
and also the worst because i didn't know how to dodge, but that was so worth

young vine Feb 11, 2020, 4:43 PM

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I actually prefer that version because there's less shield time to deal with

heady rain Feb 11, 2020, 5:01 PM

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extreme measures thesus/asterius is actually easier

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you don't have to deal with the constant shield/spear thesus combo

errant mango Feb 11, 2020, 5:15 PM

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EM Theseus is easier, Asterius is harder imo. I get caught by the big spin so often it's not funny anymore

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And if forced overtime is maxed, I actually can't dodge his charge attack at all

pastel herald Feb 11, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Yeah, EM Theseus is predictable. But EM Asterius is dangerous with sword or melee attacks

errant mango Feb 11, 2020, 5:23 PM

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I lost a GY run just now thanks to the bull... 2 DD going into the fight, didn't even get him to half hp gilmanangst

supple dagger Feb 11, 2020, 5:45 PM

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I do hope they add codex entities for the fishes because I actually got two new fishes during one run... weirdly, keep getting Gupps in Styx though. Lmao

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Also add centaurs. Someone's trying to explain why a fantasy creature shouldn't exist in a fantasy setting, and honestly, just add centaurs in one entirety. Because "Centaur Hearts" don't already confirm tha centaurs exist.

heady rain Feb 11, 2020, 6:00 PM

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asterius has a pretty noticable windup for spin

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he goes "huurgh..." with his axe held to one side

atomic forge Feb 11, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Detecting the difference between that and his regular wind-up will save you in that fight.

warm sinew Feb 11, 2020, 6:12 PM

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am i suppose to play the lyre to get that quest done

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i saw someone saying play it 200 times lol

errant mango Feb 11, 2020, 6:20 PM

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I'm aware that the spin is pretty obvious but if you're standing next to him, there's barely any time to dodge... at least for me anyway, my reaction speed is very much below average

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Me playing with +40% forced overtime is the problem here I think

atomic forge Feb 11, 2020, 6:26 PM

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That's the hardest Pact option in the game after the "makes the game smaller" options.

deep spoke Feb 11, 2020, 6:28 PM

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@errant mango play 20%, be kind to yourself

errant mango Feb 11, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Never shadesmile I like pain and suffering

supple dagger Feb 11, 2020, 6:34 PM

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@warm sinew I shockingly managed to get that lyre to finally play music when I inched closer to 100 runs. I can't remember/count how many times I pressed E, but I know it was less than 100 times

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I'd like to say maybe... 50? 60 max.

warm sinew Feb 11, 2020, 6:34 PM

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okay thanks

supple dagger Feb 11, 2020, 6:34 PM

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yeah, that sounds right. 20 might change the tune. then another 20 changes the tune. And then eventually, you just talk ot Orpheus and the fate is done.

warm sinew Feb 11, 2020, 6:35 PM

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i talked to him once about lyre

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he said practice

fiery flower Feb 11, 2020, 7:17 PM

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"Git gud" - Orpheus

supple dagger Feb 11, 2020, 7:33 PM

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For a while, I thought I might not ever finish the quest though because every other time I spoke with him, he'd just mention the Hymn of Zagreus that he created out of a whole lie Zag and Dio spun.

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and every time I tried to correct him, he just went "don't be so humble and modest!"

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"we all know you're the REAL father of Dio."

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"btw, how did you retain such youth!?"

hollow mortar Feb 11, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Making an echo to “My mother’s mirror”. I’m dead 🤣

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Oh gods, Forge will be summoned shortly....

supple dagger Feb 11, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Forge? <-<

fast idol Feb 11, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Oh my god

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Why did no one tell me about Lernie

fiery flower Feb 11, 2020, 8:23 PM

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Lernie the Bone Hydra? He's a real talker I tell ya.

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I wonder how he got the job.

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Hades be like "What are your qualifications?"
Multiple hisses
"You're hired."

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🤔
I wonder if Hades was serious when he said the Hydra had a family.

fast idol Feb 11, 2020, 8:31 PM

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maybe its other heads

fast idol Feb 11, 2020, 8:56 PM

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What caught me offguard is that when Zag call it Lernie the Boss title changes as well

formal ivy Feb 11, 2020, 8:59 PM

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why did I step into this channel

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*smacks forehead

strong horizon Feb 11, 2020, 9:30 PM

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?

coarse stone Feb 11, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Maybe the Hydra knows Scylla

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Boss fight with Scylla. With her going "FOR LERNIE"

merry sorrel Feb 11, 2020, 10:58 PM

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I would totally want to see that for real in-game

trail plinth Feb 11, 2020, 11:01 PM

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oh my god, dadther is driving me crazy with all these riddles

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what exactly do i not know, dad!!! what consequences!!!!

solid shoal Feb 11, 2020, 11:04 PM

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I think its funny some of the end discussion with the NPCs like Thanatos and Meg once you get their hearts to max than you do the same thing with Dusa and its like what didn't see that coming lol

pastel herald Feb 11, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Hey, I'm plugging two of my mods here, links in #self-promotion

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i saw someone saying play it 200 times lol
1st is to learn to play the lyre within 5 tries. Yeap, I was the one who mentioned the lyre needs to be played 210 times otherwise, to complete The Gift of Song@warm sinew

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2nd is fishing mod. Fishing spots always spawn, even in Chaos realm. Perfect catches are a lot easier (finally get those legendaries!), and fishes give more rewards

restive ore Feb 12, 2020, 2:46 AM

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somebody else stuck on "deepening your relationship with skelly"?

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i cant give nectar to him anymore

fiery flower Feb 12, 2020, 2:47 AM

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There's a random chance that he'll ask you to free him

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by killing him with a fully upgraded Zag's aspect Stygian Blade

restive ore Feb 12, 2020, 2:48 AM

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ah ok

fiery flower Feb 12, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Keep winning/dying until that happen

restive ore Feb 12, 2020, 2:48 AM

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damn

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but thanks!

fiery flower Feb 12, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Good luck, and have fun!

upper mica Feb 12, 2020, 3:17 AM

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I'm back to Hades again!

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I reached to the surface and met Hades himself.
And wow their father-son banter though 👀 💦
[nervous player wheezing]

deep spoke Feb 12, 2020, 4:03 AM

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@trail plinth those lines are exactly why I read Hades' character as "I'm trying to protect you but inadvertently doing it in the worst, most abusive way because I can't be honest about my intentions".

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Hades just talk to your damn kid instead of this Strict Dad nonsense.

atomic forge Feb 12, 2020, 4:08 AM

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Dusa dusa

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dusa

trail plinth Feb 12, 2020, 4:27 AM

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@deep spoke oh that's totally it! the consequences bit gave that away

calm geyser Feb 12, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Why won't Hades let me throw more nectar at him? T_T Just have a real conversation without any veiled ~~or blatant~~ insults.

hazy grove Feb 12, 2020, 5:03 AM

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"Ongoing Underworld Renovations"

burnt halo Feb 12, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Hades seems to take too many dad cues from like

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all of the worst parents

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except Cronus, since he hasn't eaten Zagreus yet...

haughty carbon Feb 12, 2020, 5:05 AM

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It's still not the time I suppose. We still have to learn what happens after the full escape! Maybe then Hades will soften up and reveal himself to Nectar gifting.

burnt halo Feb 12, 2020, 5:06 AM

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but it's a combination of "tough love," "is awful at parenting," "is stressed, depressed, and overworked," "can't be honest with his kid," and "just kind of a dong"

calm geyser Feb 12, 2020, 5:08 AM

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shadegrief I will still hope for reconciliation while there's time. And an awkward hug at max level nectar because Hades doesn't know how to dad.

haughty carbon Feb 12, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Plus he isn't exactly liking the fact almost everyone in the house is helping Zagreus to escape and not only that, but his relatives that he isn't so friendly towards to. Add that he is now a single parent, overall the relationship becomes a total mess.

main gulch Feb 12, 2020, 5:09 AM

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awkward hug
zag: im still leaving tho dad
hades:
zag: walking out of the pool of styx

haughty carbon Feb 12, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Classic Hades.

merry sorrel Feb 12, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Hades definitely has some control issues

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Someone who just has low dad skill won’t try to provoke anger in his son that often

calm geyser Feb 12, 2020, 5:12 AM

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Fair enough. Again. It's more of a hope for a (highly unrealistic) happy ending for a character I adore rather than a logical conclusion of how that'd end irl.

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I just want Zag to be happy. And not have a completely broken family at the end of all this.

merry sorrel Feb 12, 2020, 5:12 AM

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I do believe that Hades does love and care about Zagreus

haughty carbon Feb 12, 2020, 5:13 AM

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He definitely had no one to teach him a proper parenting and without a proper partner to be by his side practically no one has a way to make him think in depth of his methods.

hazy grove Feb 12, 2020, 5:13 AM

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That line he gives when you first defeat him, asking Zag to convey a message, does seem to indicate some heart under all that.

haughty carbon Feb 12, 2020, 5:14 AM

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And let's not forget Hades had his own share of rebelling against his parents.

merry sorrel Feb 12, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Then screwed over by the comrades in said rebellion

calm geyser Feb 12, 2020, 5:15 AM

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His parents lost a little more than just time to fill out paperwork when he rebelled...

merry sorrel Feb 12, 2020, 5:15 AM

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And now the ones who put Hades here are bailing Zagreus out

calm geyser Feb 12, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Yeah, that's got to be infuriating.

haughty carbon Feb 12, 2020, 5:16 AM

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What Zagreus does somewhat may remind him of his youth and how foolish he may be, considering the outcome of these all actions didn't turn out well.

calm geyser Feb 12, 2020, 5:16 AM

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No excuse to be taking it out on Zag though.

haughty carbon Feb 12, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Yeah, he isn't good parent, but there is definitely roots to him being a bad one.

merry sorrel Feb 12, 2020, 5:17 AM

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He seemed to be both jealous that zag was getting all that attention and help and also fearing that the Olympians’ will then screw over zag like they did to him

calm geyser Feb 12, 2020, 5:17 AM

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His motives and character are very...I don't recall the word. But very understandable?

atomic forge Feb 12, 2020, 5:18 AM

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It's only a little unfair that Artemis is celibate and aromantic because every time she asks me to tell her about life in the Underworld I fall in love a little more.

merry sorrel Feb 12, 2020, 5:18 AM

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with the way Hades talked about them, about Zeus

calm geyser Feb 12, 2020, 5:19 AM

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And while here Hades doesn't seem to have been a great husband he was nowhere near Zeus levels of infidelity and was at least very fair in his ire. Rather than going around punishing mortals at whim.

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That makes Hades automatically more endearing to me than most of the Olympians.

merry sorrel Feb 12, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Hades needs a vacation and some good friends who can provide moral compass service to him

calm geyser Feb 12, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Yes. 👏 A break and good counsel. Preferably with people who are less awful. And Cerb because he's a goodgoodgood boy.

haughty carbon Feb 12, 2020, 5:24 AM

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Ngl Artemis is too precious at times.

Yeah, Hades' Vacation DLC. dusa

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Can't wait for dad jokes and comfy camping feel.

merry sorrel Feb 12, 2020, 5:25 AM

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I’m against micro transactions but I’d pay for that DLC

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Artemis may be celibate but Zagreus can still become her intimate I hope

haughty carbon Feb 12, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Zagreus and Hades going to fish to tighten their bond as a father and son and work on their problematic relationship.

merry sorrel Feb 12, 2020, 5:26 AM

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I remember that guy who got turned into a woman and entered Artemis’ friend group

calm geyser Feb 12, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Artemis and Zag for best buds. They 100% go on hunts together when Zag gets out.

Did Hades teach Zag to fish? Because that would be adorable.

haughty carbon Feb 12, 2020, 5:27 AM

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I imagine he would definitely. I mean who else would casually fish in the underworld with Zagreus?

calm geyser Feb 12, 2020, 5:29 AM

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Achilles? Maybe not. Than? Hmm...does Than fish is a good question...Nyx? Nyx has definitely fished or just swam in the waters of Chaos before. You can't tell me Chaos wouldn't just create beings out of nothing to entertain themself and their child. XD

haughty carbon Feb 12, 2020, 5:32 AM

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I feel like Achilles would be the type to fish with his spear, since you know, if you can pick fruits, hunt with it, why not fish with it?

calm geyser Feb 12, 2020, 5:32 AM

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That's a good point!

trail plinth Feb 12, 2020, 5:48 AM

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there's also the part where hades always seems to be on edge and that might be because of whatever those darn consequences are

calm geyser Feb 12, 2020, 5:49 AM

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I'd like to introduce you to these lovely women we call the Fates.

burnt halo Feb 12, 2020, 6:15 AM

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hades has been perpetually Having A Bad Time™️ for the past "entirety of history"

deep spoke Feb 12, 2020, 6:50 AM

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Re: Hades - I get the impression he actually reflects some of the... very much toxic ideals underlying the ancient Greek pantheon and family structure.

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On some level he does care, it's just twisted and buried by behavioral systems that amplify the cycle of abuse he obviously received from his own parents...

deep spoke Feb 12, 2020, 7:16 AM

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Also, being surrounded by subordinates exclusively and not having anyone he's forced to treat as an equal for gods know how long isn't psychologically healthy - that screws up kids in rich families enough, let alone people with the kind of serious issues Hades is packing (mythologically and in-game alike). The last one was his wife, and we know how that ended.

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I like how complex the characters are even from the limited interactions. For instance, Nyx is a loving and supportive foster mother, and overall not antagonistic to Zagreus, but you can't overlook her... unfortunately old-fashioned views toward hierarchy. Specifically her treatment of Dusa.

neat lagoon Feb 12, 2020, 7:54 AM

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Coming into the spoiler channel, surprised when people post spoilers Pikawow

lunar ibex Feb 12, 2020, 9:31 AM

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@main gulch You missed the part where Zag, filled with uncontrollable excitement, runs full force into the rock painted to look like a tunnel

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Anyone know Zag's age?

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Can't wait until they make hades an unlockable character

main gulch Feb 12, 2020, 9:53 AM

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Several hundred of years no doubt

haughty carbon Feb 12, 2020, 9:55 AM

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definitely, he is after all a son of god.

warm sinew Feb 12, 2020, 10:24 AM

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what happens when i romance with all 3 characters

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i only romanced meg

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does it change anythign or?

heady rain Feb 12, 2020, 10:25 AM

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nothing

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feel free to romance everyone

fast idol Feb 12, 2020, 12:22 PM

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it might impact the ending
once we get it

restive elk Feb 12, 2020, 12:26 PM

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X to doubt.

lunar ibex Feb 12, 2020, 12:43 PM

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I just hope they add a story line for the supportive shade

restive elk Feb 12, 2020, 1:10 PM

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Supportive Shade Contractor Upgrades?

runic terrace Feb 12, 2020, 1:22 PM

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zags like physical age is prob hundreds to thousands of years but i think his emotional age is in his early 20s

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i know a lot of people see "running away" and think "teenager" but i feel like the "coming of age" thing is behind him by now and this is a "taking steps of adulthood" story

restive elk Feb 12, 2020, 1:27 PM

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How can we Age him if nobody here knows is it a night or day?

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What is Time?

lunar kiln Feb 12, 2020, 1:33 PM

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dusa is the only character in hades who has an accurate grasp on the passage of time

deep spoke Feb 12, 2020, 1:33 PM

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He does sound more like a young adult than a teenager.

lunar kiln Feb 12, 2020, 1:33 PM

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being able to tell you she's 2 weeks late in her work despite having never seen the surface since she started working at the house

runic terrace Feb 12, 2020, 1:34 PM

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dusa has a secret sundial

lunar kiln Feb 12, 2020, 1:35 PM

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she counts the seconds in her head

deep spoke Feb 12, 2020, 1:35 PM

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that works with no sun

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:^)

lunar kiln Feb 12, 2020, 1:35 PM

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one of her snakes counts the seconds, another the minutes, another the days, and so on

hushed yew Feb 12, 2020, 1:35 PM

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~~dusa is secretly the only one in the house able to leave the underground to have a look at her secret sundial~~

lunar kiln Feb 12, 2020, 1:37 PM

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zag: hey dusa, you wouldnt happen to know what time it is by any chance
dusa: oh of course i do! it is--
snake 1: five pm,
snake 2: 47 minutes,
snake 3: and 28 seconds

restive elk Feb 12, 2020, 1:37 PM

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That reminds me... Hades asked to install a sundial...But it did not...

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~~Dusa stole the Hades's sundial~~

main gulch Feb 12, 2020, 1:40 PM

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everybody expectantly looking at snake 4
snake 4: what you guys really expected me to i thought it was a joke

deep spoke Feb 12, 2020, 1:41 PM

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counting the milliseconds lmao

lunar kiln Feb 12, 2020, 1:43 PM

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she can't get the sundial to work because she is herself a ray of sunshine

main hearth Feb 12, 2020, 1:45 PM

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Daedalus is too busy making protective eyewear against the sun to construct a sundial that works without the sun

lunar kiln Feb 12, 2020, 1:46 PM

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if daedalus ever makes it ingame i hope he's established as someone who creates utter nonsense all the time

main hearth Feb 12, 2020, 1:46 PM

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Inb4 hover chariot

lunar kiln Feb 12, 2020, 1:47 PM

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daedalus: i have conceived this handy protective eyewear to protect one's eyes from the sun. sunglasses, if you will
zag: but sir, sunlight can't reach this place
daedalus: well suppose it does,

runic terrace Feb 12, 2020, 2:06 PM

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hfhfjgjg yes good

upper vigil Feb 12, 2020, 2:06 PM

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hgfjsdj

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good

deep spoke Feb 12, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Daedalus is just Kang the Mad from Jade Empire, but Greek instead

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Whew, that's an old reference.

upper vigil Feb 12, 2020, 4:27 PM

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hot take new theory: the war on the surface is one of the punic wars 🤔

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reasoning: the 'not socrates, just a fan' line implies a setting after 399 bce, when socrates died

deep spoke Feb 12, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Doesn't explain why the world is covered in ice... :c

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What's that line from?

upper vigil Feb 12, 2020, 4:28 PM

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well, it's clearly the fantasy punic wars shadesmile

spiral saddle Feb 12, 2020, 4:28 PM

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we dont have a timeframe tho

upper vigil Feb 12, 2020, 4:28 PM

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from one of the shades

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and then we know that guan yu hasn't been born yet

spiral saddle Feb 12, 2020, 4:28 PM

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we cant really make assumptions

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eh

upper vigil Feb 12, 2020, 4:28 PM

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that's why it's my hot take new theory,

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there's also a line 'that was one for the history books (cause of death, elephants)'
and we know the war on the surface is massively destructive, so..........fantasy punic wars would work,

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like i said, i'm noodling around

deep spoke Feb 12, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Yeah, we do know that Guan Yu is probably from the future

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That actually kinda makes sense if the elephants are involved

spiral saddle Feb 12, 2020, 4:30 PM

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ye but isnt demeter making the eternal winter kinda mess with that

deep spoke Feb 12, 2020, 4:30 PM

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So it's not later than... let's say, something like 150 CE

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because the historical Guan Yu died in 220

upper vigil Feb 12, 2020, 4:31 PM

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so a timeframe of the 200s-100s bce would fit

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going off the elephants it could also be alexander, i guess, because india and persia, i just immediately thought of carthage

deep spoke Feb 12, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Hey, I know it's not technically musically accurate, but could it be said that God of the Dead is... death metal?

upper vigil Feb 12, 2020, 5:35 PM

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ajfingerguns ron ......

haughty carbon Feb 12, 2020, 5:53 PM

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did I just hear the son of hades, the prince of the underworld say "piss off". That's a first time ever I heard that. Didn't expect that. What's up with you, Zagreus. sweating

tiny sequoia Feb 12, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Who's teaching him these swears

deep spoke Feb 12, 2020, 5:55 PM

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"Language!"

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the question is, who says that to him

signal palm Feb 12, 2020, 5:56 PM

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He got into Than's edgy book collection

haughty carbon Feb 12, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Must be shades, Than or Meg.

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One of them clearly did done bad.

tiny sequoia Feb 12, 2020, 6:01 PM

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The shade from the stadium gets really mad when zag loses

frank ridge Feb 12, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Nah nah its obvi Dusa.

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She hates the contractor and Zag could've overheard her just cussing him out lmao.

runic terrace Feb 12, 2020, 6:16 PM

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if anyone deserves to swear, its dusa

upper vigil Feb 12, 2020, 6:25 PM

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let dusa say [REDACTED FOR PROXY]

stark swallow Feb 12, 2020, 6:28 PM

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tf is redacted

deep spoke Feb 12, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Deleted to avoid swearbot spanking the naughty children

upper vigil Feb 12, 2020, 6:30 PM

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no cait don't react that. it's a joke

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no!!

deep spoke Feb 12, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Yeet

haughty carbon Feb 12, 2020, 6:31 PM

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rip, we are losing bribery today. 😔

deep spoke Feb 12, 2020, 6:31 PM

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F in chat

upper vigil Feb 12, 2020, 6:31 PM

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🇫

runic terrace Feb 12, 2020, 6:31 PM

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hfkfkh losing bribery....becoming uncorrupt

deep spoke Feb 12, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Guess we can leave hell now

lunar kiln Feb 12, 2020, 6:31 PM

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finally bribery is no more

haughty carbon Feb 12, 2020, 6:31 PM

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crabrave

upper vigil Feb 12, 2020, 6:31 PM

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i can't believe i'm dead

runic terrace Feb 12, 2020, 6:32 PM

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(cerberus took ethics class)

haughty carbon Feb 12, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Cerberus says: "don't take bribes".

upper vigil Feb 12, 2020, 6:32 PM

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cait: omae wa mou shindeiru
me: nani!?

forest meteor Feb 12, 2020, 8:06 PM

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I keep seeing people mention a "music prophecy" on here. Is there an actual Fated List prophecy for playing the lyre? I've gotten the conversations from Orphesus about practicing and have gotten Zag up to playing actual tunes, but nothing has shown up on the Fated List.

deep spoke Feb 12, 2020, 8:08 PM

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There is one.

errant mango Feb 12, 2020, 8:08 PM

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There is. Just keep spamming the lyre and talking to Orpheus, it should eventually show up

deep spoke Feb 12, 2020, 8:08 PM

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I got it before even the conversation

errant mango Feb 12, 2020, 8:10 PM

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I think I got it a couple runs after getting the lyre, but I can't be sure. My memory is so poor

haughty carbon Feb 12, 2020, 8:11 PM

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woah extreme measures elysium is kind of feeling more fair than the usual version

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Or am I just stunned how shiny their armor is?

fiery flower Feb 12, 2020, 8:27 PM

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I like Theseus without the shield

supple dagger Feb 12, 2020, 9:13 PM

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I've been playing Extreme Heat bosses for so much, I forgot what Asphodel and Elysium look like

digital totem Feb 12, 2020, 11:55 PM

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Extreme measures Elysium is much harder because it is difficult to concentrate with how much Theseus makes me laugh.

upper vigil Feb 13, 2020, 12:03 AM

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same

fiery flower Feb 13, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Theseus comic relief to Asterius straight man act.

trail plinth Feb 13, 2020, 3:16 AM

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wait, does zag really says ''piss off''? i have a collection of his scoffs and things like it, this is incredibly important info

main gulch Feb 13, 2020, 3:18 AM

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Yes at some points he does

haughty carbon Feb 13, 2020, 3:21 AM

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yeah after I fished and dashed off through vases he goes "piss off" for whatever reason

main gulch Feb 13, 2020, 3:28 AM

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Damn zag calm down

haughty carbon Feb 13, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Really wondering what have caused him to say such out of nowhere

open berry Feb 13, 2020, 3:50 AM

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this is delightful information

merry sorrel Feb 13, 2020, 4:10 AM

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stepping into vase shards while barefoot must hurt

deep spoke Feb 13, 2020, 4:11 AM

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I guess he was a little... pissed off... at people leaving so much junk around

fiery flower Feb 13, 2020, 4:15 AM

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The father or the son?

main hearth Feb 13, 2020, 4:27 AM

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He says things like that in the first room if you attack the shades loitering about

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There's also dialogue for destroying all the pillars

fiery flower Feb 13, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Ah yes I remember that

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Who's going to clean all of this up

coarse stone Feb 13, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Dusa probably

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a very angry Dusa

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(MaDusa?)

upper mica Feb 13, 2020, 5:19 AM

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😂 😂 😂 👏

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My coworker friend watched me play Hades the other day and I introduced her to Dusa.
Me: "She's Dusa the maid. Get it? Maid-Dusa."
Friend: [Looks up at the ceiling and mouthed "Oh my god"]

coarse stone Feb 13, 2020, 5:24 AM

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MaiDusa, MaDusa, wonder what other puns there could be

upper mica Feb 13, 2020, 6:55 AM

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"You're MyDusa."

zealous inlet Feb 13, 2020, 7:01 AM

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just don't drop a Dusa in the bowl ❤️

atomic forge Feb 13, 2020, 7:13 AM

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No she's not. She was quite insistent on it, actually.

deep spoke Feb 13, 2020, 7:14 AM

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I mean, she's still buddies with Zagreus.

clever juniper Feb 13, 2020, 9:04 AM

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Anyone on with decent insight in to which boons get slotted where

proven fossil Feb 13, 2020, 9:07 AM

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Like aesthetically? or mechanic wise?

clever juniper Feb 13, 2020, 9:07 AM

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Uh a little of both

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I mean I know there's the core row

main hearth Feb 13, 2020, 9:08 AM

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specifically regarding the second row and beyond I assume

clever juniper Feb 13, 2020, 9:08 AM

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yes

main hearth Feb 13, 2020, 9:08 AM

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it does seem pretty random

clever juniper Feb 13, 2020, 9:08 AM

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I thought it was just pushing the new boons onto the end of the array but then i'd look at it further in the run and that not be the case

main hearth Feb 13, 2020, 9:08 AM

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and they won't stay in the same spot either, like dark thirst and aspect icons will move

proven fossil Feb 13, 2020, 9:09 AM

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They do tend to move thonk I just hit select on the control to view all of mine

clever juniper Feb 13, 2020, 9:09 AM

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I was looking in the game files earlier

main hearth Feb 13, 2020, 9:09 AM

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i do know that consumable effects will be at the top of the second row

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like from the charon well

clever juniper Feb 13, 2020, 9:09 AM

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But ended up reading the fishing logic instead

proven fossil Feb 13, 2020, 9:10 AM

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Fishing logic sounds goofy, that's a goofy set of words

clever juniper Feb 13, 2020, 9:10 AM

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Nah no way

proven fossil Feb 13, 2020, 9:10 AM

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Logical Fishing

clever juniper Feb 13, 2020, 9:11 AM

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As opposed to illogical fishing

proven fossil Feb 13, 2020, 9:11 AM

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Don't forget paradoxical fishing

clever juniper Feb 13, 2020, 9:12 AM

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They say paradoxical is more relaxing but conundrumatic is better for your skin

deep spoke Feb 13, 2020, 9:14 AM

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I quite like Ridiculous Fishing myself

clever juniper Feb 13, 2020, 9:15 AM

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Earlier today I caught something looked just like Toon Link + a puffer

atomic forge Feb 13, 2020, 9:18 AM

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Oh no.

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I'm never gonna unsee that.

haughty carbon Feb 13, 2020, 10:52 AM

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so by looking at the keepsakes

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I suppose there will be 8 more keepsakes and 1 more companion? thanthink

whole path Feb 13, 2020, 12:12 PM

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So, I got a dialogue with Demeter yesterday about the "curse of motherhood" and that she had a child once that's long gone....so while I would still like to think that Persephone is alive, certainly nobody knows where she is

ember goblet Feb 13, 2020, 12:24 PM

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i need to know before i scarfice a day of my time. Can i forfill the quest of zag playing the harp?

proven fossil Feb 13, 2020, 12:24 PM

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Yes

ember goblet Feb 13, 2020, 12:24 PM

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and if so what amount of runs do i need to do

proven fossil Feb 13, 2020, 12:24 PM

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I just spammed the harp

ember goblet Feb 13, 2020, 12:24 PM

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XD

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lol

proven fossil Feb 13, 2020, 12:24 PM

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Each time I finished a run

ember goblet Feb 13, 2020, 12:25 PM

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okay lol i spent 4 hours already. but only did each play 3 times

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maybe i should of spammed more

proven fossil Feb 13, 2020, 12:25 PM

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I think it might be run based

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So do a run, come back when you die, play a little, repeat

ember goblet Feb 13, 2020, 12:26 PM

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okay thank you

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at least i can be done

proven fossil Feb 13, 2020, 12:26 PM

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Ye I just finished it the other day

pastel herald Feb 13, 2020, 12:57 PM

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Plugging my mod here, I made it substantially easier to complete the quest. Link in #self-promotion

heady rain Feb 13, 2020, 1:47 PM

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lmao this skelly line

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"your mama presses olive oil!"

upper vigil Feb 13, 2020, 2:52 PM

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..............fourth aspect club with the aspect of heracles

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since that was a suggestion in feedback

heady rain Feb 13, 2020, 2:53 PM

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are the end-game narrator dialogues on a rotation, or are some only unlocked after you finish a certain amount of runs? just got a totally new one i've never seen in like 80 runs, was about zag getting a cold and then dying from it

errant mango Feb 13, 2020, 2:57 PM

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I'd have to imagine some happen only after a certain amount of runs, e.g. "the prince is getting rather good at this". Could be random chance too

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Took me a while to see the one with the cold or the banana peel even

haughty carbon Feb 13, 2020, 2:58 PM

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my last one was "It was all just a dream" ending.

deep spoke Feb 13, 2020, 3:03 PM

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@upper vigil club for what weapon

upper vigil Feb 13, 2020, 3:04 PM

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........okay i mistyped, tired, hahah. i meant sixth weapon club, club as sixth weapon, since that was what was suggested in feedback

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and heracles used a club

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so aspect of heracles

heady rain Feb 13, 2020, 3:09 PM

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i've seen the rake

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not sure about peel

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dream is pretty common

main hearth Feb 13, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Wall painted to look like the way out is too overpowered

upper vigil Feb 13, 2020, 3:12 PM

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common cold op, please nerf

haughty carbon Feb 13, 2020, 3:13 PM

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had the Another but it's nothing special tbh

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also last run I have talked with Hades about Zeus forgiving him

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he sure uh didn't take it well

atomic forge Feb 13, 2020, 3:39 PM

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Holy cookies I just went to Erebus for the first time and what a cool-looking location that was!

heady rain Feb 13, 2020, 3:42 PM

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got another new end dialogue as well

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was talking about how zag was reminiscing on all his past demises that he actually died

burnt halo Feb 13, 2020, 4:11 PM

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i've gotten the "it's all a dream" ending multiple times, actually

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before a lot of others

heady rain Feb 13, 2020, 4:27 PM

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from what i've seen dream is pretty common

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also i love the new dialogue options after than romance when he comes to help you

modern falcon Feb 13, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Hey, ive just unlocked meg as an enhanced relationship, but already completed than

wicked pier Feb 13, 2020, 5:14 PM

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oh they both are into it

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seven kinds of love and all

modern falcon Feb 13, 2020, 5:14 PM

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is following the path with meg very detrimental?

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for the relationship with than i mean

wicked pier Feb 13, 2020, 5:14 PM

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they are cool

modern falcon Feb 13, 2020, 5:15 PM

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nice

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i love them both so much 😦

wicked pier Feb 13, 2020, 5:15 PM

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i think it pretty much establishes that you are a teen with raging hormones, or you are poly

modern falcon Feb 13, 2020, 5:16 PM

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im on board with both of those, i just dont want more conflict, they deserve their happiness

wicked pier Feb 13, 2020, 5:16 PM

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they are both career oriented, but they both love eachother and you very much.

modern falcon Feb 13, 2020, 5:16 PM

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i mean it wouldnt be bad from a narrative point of view, it would just make me sad

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that is super sweet

deep spoke Feb 13, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Far as I know, it's a healthy and consensual poly relationship. I mean, it's with permission.

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That should tell you a lot.

modern falcon Feb 13, 2020, 5:20 PM

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now i shall deepen the relationship and come back to fangirl with the new feels once obtained

wicked pier Feb 13, 2020, 5:22 PM

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I also think Meg is not in love love with zagreus.

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But Than is.

errant mango Feb 13, 2020, 5:41 PM

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I got the same vibes tbh

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Not saying that one is better than the other, it's just different. And it's good

frank ridge Feb 13, 2020, 5:43 PM

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So none of yall were gonna tell me Boldy buffs you?

haughty carbon Feb 13, 2020, 5:46 PM

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it is an experience you find out about on your own.

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bouldy

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but you believed in, so he believed in you.

signal palm Feb 13, 2020, 5:46 PM

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you must be willing to offer your goods to the one true god to receive his blessing

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to appease him for personal gain is blasphemy

deep spoke Feb 13, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Swoledy

proven fossil Feb 13, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Wait

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He buffs?

signal palm Feb 13, 2020, 5:56 PM

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like 5% damage reduction or 3% move speed yeah

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teeny buffs

errant mango Feb 13, 2020, 5:56 PM

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bouldy gives you a random minor buff if you gift nectar

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Highest one I got was +9% more gold

proven fossil Feb 13, 2020, 5:57 PM

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shadeohboy

haughty carbon Feb 13, 2020, 5:57 PM

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it can be 19% I think maybe I am wrong

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or it can be just nothing

errant mango Feb 13, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Wait really? That high

hollow surge Feb 13, 2020, 6:27 PM

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hmm want to ask inside infernal gate will still count timer when i play with pact of punishment (the one with time limit)?

livid lance Feb 13, 2020, 6:28 PM

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The timer doesn't pause in Erebus

unique solar Feb 13, 2020, 7:47 PM

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I've maxed out Meg's friendship, but can't seem to trigger whatever lets me get her summon. anything i'm forgetting?

stark swallow Feb 13, 2020, 7:49 PM

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did she come by your room yet?

unique solar Feb 13, 2020, 7:53 PM

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no

stark swallow Feb 13, 2020, 7:54 PM

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that's why

unique solar Feb 13, 2020, 7:54 PM

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ah

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how much nectar until I can romance bouldy?

stark swallow Feb 13, 2020, 7:54 PM

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you have to do a favor to the char before u can feed ambrosia

deep spoke Feb 13, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Lmao

unique solar Feb 13, 2020, 7:54 PM

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yeah but i haven't triggered her asking for the favor

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and i'

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ve had her maxed for quite a while

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You know what I don't like

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Aphrodite pointed out that I have a crush on Dusa, but the game doesn't let you romance her.

stark swallow Feb 13, 2020, 7:56 PM

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it took me like 10 runs after maxing her

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before she showed up in the room

unique solar Feb 13, 2020, 7:57 PM

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I just want to kiss Dusa, is that too much to ask

vale flame Feb 13, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Sadly yes. Dusa is very awesome.

unique solar Feb 13, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Dusa should be on the employee of the day/night board in the lounge

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she works so hard

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I want the final weapon to be gauntlets solely so I can experience the satisfaction of punching Theseus in his smug face.

vale flame Feb 13, 2020, 8:01 PM

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I do think it's funny that the employee of the day switches between just thanos and meg

unique solar Feb 13, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Dusa and Cerberus should be employee of the day too

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Hypnos also, but only exactly once in every game file.

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wait back up

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did you just call Thanatos Thanos

vale flame Feb 13, 2020, 8:03 PM

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I did. Same base name but yeah Than

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I'd say an easy slip of the tongue

hollow mortar Feb 13, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Hypnos also, but only exactly once in every game file.
@unique solar LMAO

crystal swift Feb 13, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Dusa is aromantic and that's ok

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Being friends is cool

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Makes sense considering she doesnt have a body

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And if she is medusa it would make sense she wouldn't be interested in that kinda stuff

gilded egret Feb 13, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Quick question

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After finishing Orpheus’ harp mini-quest, is the harp actually playable, or do you just interact with it?

vale flame Feb 13, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Which harp?

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The one next to him?

gilded egret Feb 13, 2020, 11:06 PM

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The one you buy for your room

vale flame Feb 13, 2020, 11:07 PM

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You just interact with it

gilded egret Feb 13, 2020, 11:07 PM

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I know what my next suggestion is

vale flame Feb 13, 2020, 11:07 PM

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Lol

supple dagger Feb 14, 2020, 3:43 AM

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I got two things to say: firstly, Ambiguity Bonus +2%

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That's the tweet.

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Second thing, boons, but with Cthatolic gods. (misspeleed that but y'know what I mean)

burnt halo Feb 14, 2020, 3:53 AM

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i assume you mean chthonic here

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and not Catholic...

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but that's the word you're probably looking for, chthonic

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or chthonian

supple dagger Feb 14, 2020, 4:10 AM

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whichever one used in-game for the gods that live in the Underworld with Hades and Zagreus: Nyx, Chaos, Hypnos, Thanatos.

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I definitely wasn't trying to go for Catholic, but the word looked closer to Catholic.

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I just remembered Ch-something-tlic

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But yeah!

burnt halo Feb 14, 2020, 4:28 AM

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chthonic and chthonian are relatively interchangeable

deep spoke Feb 14, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Catholic lmao

burnt halo Feb 14, 2020, 4:35 AM

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yh, chthonic literally just translates to subterranean

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but has context of the underworld in Greek myth

trail plinth Feb 14, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Mom Help Death Is In My Room

deep spoke Feb 14, 2020, 5:08 AM

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In this server, it's more like "Mom help, death won't stay in my room ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

fiery flower Feb 14, 2020, 5:37 AM

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In this server it's more like "Where's my real mom?"

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It's reverse Finding Nemo and bloodier.

haughty carbon Feb 14, 2020, 5:49 AM

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But only Zagreus bleeds

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And the creatures from Styx.

haughty carbon Feb 14, 2020, 7:21 AM

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Okay I am possibly overthinking it, but why is Hades the game is called Hades?
Bastion is because we are rebuilding it to save the world
Transistor since we are using it to play and hold the dearest to us person in the universe
Pyre since we have to put it out for freedom of our people or others.
Hades since he is main antagonist who is putting such roadblock in front of us, a father of our own and fights us.
But does Hades hold any other meaning, since don't get me wrong, most names are associated with something that brings success to MC to what they wanted to have. Hoe come Hades be the first to be the most negative out of them all?

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thanthink

deep spoke Feb 14, 2020, 7:22 AM

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Hades is both the place and the person.

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The Underworld is also referred to as Hades.

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That, and...

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Consider: "God of War"

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Not the new one. The original.

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It was named God of War despite Ares being the antagonist. Sure, Kratos became the god of war after, but at the start it really represented an antagonistic role.

primal cipher Feb 14, 2020, 8:11 AM

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I know the Dusa story doesn't end up with you togeather, but I'd rather not try to court multiple characters at once. Is there any weird stuff if you're with one of them and get Dusa past the love arrow

main hearth Feb 14, 2020, 8:19 AM

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no

lunar ibex Feb 14, 2020, 9:26 AM

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It's only an illusion of choice at the moment

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after you've gone through all of the dialogue options, you basically revert to before you talked to any of them

deep spoke Feb 14, 2020, 9:35 AM

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I hope that's just WIP

graceful peak Feb 14, 2020, 12:00 PM

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hey guys, about our zag. is he god of what actually ?

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or he didnt appointed yet

atomic forge Feb 14, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Achilles thinks he may be the god of blood.

slim mason Feb 14, 2020, 12:55 PM

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God of trash according to Alecto 😛

restive elk Feb 14, 2020, 1:00 PM

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God of Talking back according to Hades himself.

atomic forge Feb 14, 2020, 1:23 PM

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I just unlocked Aspect of Guan Yu, how does it work? Is it good?

restive elk Feb 14, 2020, 1:25 PM

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It's a spin-attack aspect

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And it's good

atomic forge Feb 14, 2020, 1:26 PM

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It seems like it has some major nerfs to oneself

primal cipher Feb 14, 2020, 1:26 PM

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It's a lot of fun. Aside from the obvious downside; you have a slightly slower attack speed for considerable damage

restive elk Feb 14, 2020, 1:26 PM

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It has lifesteal on spin

atomic forge Feb 14, 2020, 1:26 PM

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Ah, I see. Kind of a deal with the devil.

primal cipher Feb 14, 2020, 1:26 PM

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And all of the off attacks don't prevent you from using the primary attack

atomic forge Feb 14, 2020, 1:26 PM

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Can I unlock other aspects like this one? Or are they in development?

pallid crag Feb 14, 2020, 1:27 PM

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in dev

atomic forge Feb 14, 2020, 1:27 PM

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Got it

primal cipher Feb 14, 2020, 1:27 PM

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I think they'll save most of them for launch since GY was a pretty major rework

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And we've got a new weapon with presumably two aspects coming in less than a month, so the older ones likely aren't as much of a priority at the moment

atomic forge Feb 14, 2020, 1:29 PM

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I see. Thanks for the information 🙌

brisk hollow Feb 14, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Happy valentines day everyone, to have atleast some Valentines feelings i wanted to do my 100th run today to be only Aphrodite boons ... didnt work so well, i guess she is shy on this day >_>
but atleast Dusa said something matching <3
https://puu.sh/FayMk/6b38698ea6.jpg
i wish there was an option to inv. ur lover into ur room for a night ~~~~ ;3

pseudo escarp Feb 14, 2020, 7:07 PM

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well i finished the game

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so basically everytime you beat the game

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the game just says nope?

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and no one remembers how you beat hades with snow lady?

bright rampart Feb 14, 2020, 7:09 PM

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it's still in early access, so there's no real ending yet

pseudo escarp Feb 14, 2020, 7:09 PM

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ok

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i'm gonna wait

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cause i can only do it another time

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and i'm glad i didn't wipe on hades with this snow build

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had her ult and everything to dps hades down

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and god do i love level 9 attacks

zinc valley Feb 14, 2020, 7:14 PM

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@pseudo escarp Well, the "no one remembers" is technically true but not untrue at the same time

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If you beat it again and again you'll notice some changes lol

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but untrue*

pseudo escarp Feb 14, 2020, 7:14 PM

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i'm in for a ride

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welp

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found m reason

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stories

zinc valley Feb 14, 2020, 7:15 PM

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The game gets easier and easier to beat everytime for me

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At first I couldn't possibly beat Hades and now well, even with a trash run I usually beat him

main hearth Feb 14, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Usually I die because of heat mods more than anything, or with a trash build because I get impatient and play worse when the damage is tickle tier

formal ivy Feb 14, 2020, 8:23 PM

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"tickle tier" made me giggle

sharp gulch Feb 14, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Yeah early runs were stressful. But now if I don't complete a run it is usually for me just hating my damage and mentally giving up. I am alright with bad builds, but sometimes I get literally nothing useful at all