@trail plinth check out my earlier comments. You'll be shook
#h1-story-discussion
shy nimbus
quiet burrow
@onyx extreme measure changes the arena into an oblong diamond with rivers of lava intersecting both vertically and horizontally
Basically there's four triangular platforms, each of which is about the size of the main head's ground pound radius
And the main head is in the middle, so there's no safe place to hit from a distance
paper pawn
the main head will also detach after the first phase and start following you
it's exciting to have the hydra breathing down your neck
said no one ever
remote meadow
stark tulip
AAA I just had the discussion with achilles about ||zag liking more than one person at a time... very good||
coarse stone
Than is a spooky sinnamon roll
I'd personally flirt with Achilles, Patroclus, and Than
They're all pretty decent dudes
(Glad that Thanatos isn't portrayed as mean or evil >: )
worldly beacon
has anyone gotten the dusa legendary yet?
odd siren
warped rock
Ijust realized what if its not a nuclear winter
but rather the ice age?
not possible on the first but probably a second one?
quiet burrow
With demeter having all the cold boons it's clear the winter is her doing
Which implies perseophone hasn't returned to olympos
worldly beacon
several of her dialogues make that very explicitly clear
tiny sequoia
she's just vibing
warped rock
demeter is the goddess of what again
echo mist
Demeter is chill
warped rock
and persephone is what
echo mist
Demeter is persephone's mother
warped rock
which one is the god of agriculture which is seasons
echo mist
whoops
tiny sequoia
both
echo mist
Demeter is agriculture
famous for covering the world in winter for half the year
when persephone is in Hades
and Spring for the other half
when persephone is not in Hades
maybe spring and winter are aeons in the game who knows
tiny sequoia
zag is in his 20s or something, right
echo mist
do demigods age
echo mist
I mean achilles is long dead
and he looks like he's in his prime
lmao
so... y'know
shrug on timeline
tiny sequoia
maybe the dead don't age
echo mist
that's my headcanon
tiny sequoia
is zag dead? i dont think so
echo mist
I think he has died, but maybe people can leave hades and be subject to time again?
warped rock
guan yu apparently stil laint popular
echo mist
In fact, I haven't seen any old people in Hades...
warped rock
demeter
winter thicket
i just found out yesterday Eurydice has dialogue about exactly that
stiff geyser
I bought the contract to free bouldy and then didn't run into him the next run now I'm sad lol
echo mist
Dude. Chaos is like some eldritch horror
atomic forge
Little bit.
random basin
IIRC
tiny sequoia
chaos is covered in babies, thats a symbol of youth
random basin
There's a line Eurydice says about everyone in Hades looking young
echo mist
Chaos is attached to a bunch of different faces like Envy in fmab
warped rock
when i see something twink baby hybrid
echo mist
infinitely birthing all things
winter thicket
🙏🏼 hoping for Nyx's final portrait to have a little of that uncanny valley, personally
random basin
Yeah. Pretty sure the weird chaos babies are symbolism for chaos being the progenitor of all things.
I want Nyx's face to literally just be an emotionless doll face
LOL
winter thicket
yeah, their design does have like. a bit of Proteus in there doesn't it?
echo mist
the top half of Nyx's face is just darkness
slate oracle
Guys I gotta ask an honest opinion: i'm at 70+ runs and Meg still hasn't come the second time to my bedroom so I can give her ambrosia. Am I the unluckiest dude in the world or is my game bugged af?
echo mist
random basin
you just gotta keep playing. Took me a good 100 something runs to even get the meg event
slate oracle
Oof indeed
atomic forge
damn really?
slate oracle
@random basin daaamn son
atomic forge
im like at 40 runs and i already got her full bond
random basin
Lol
slate oracle
Guess I'm not even that unlucky
atomic forge
bruh moment
random basin
To be fair, I wasn't hard going meg every time
slate oracle
I am, she is just stuck at that table
random basin
but point is that there's a bunch of flags in game and it's not always the same timing for everyone
For example, I'm hard going for Than RN
slate oracle
I'm done with anyone else tho
random basin
and he still won't let me give him the second bottle so I can kiss him
atomic forge
warped rock
I just want the keepsakes
slate oracle
AHAHAHAHAHAH
warped rock
horniness begone
atomic forge
let us kiss than
random basin
KISSING IS SWEET AND INNOCENT OK
slate oracle
I actually just had the sexy time with Than
slate oracle
As a hetero dude it was kinda awkward
random basin
Maybe. LOL
random basin
Anyway, point of it all is that some kisses take time ok
slate oracle
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
spring scaffold
The community: kissing animations! 
SGG: 
slate oracle
I guess some kisses do take time
echo mist
No-one going for the harem ending?
random basin
My friend did
echo mist
Disappointment
slate oracle
The Witcher taught me to avoid harem endings
echo mist
Noice
slate oracle
Same
echo mist
But also dusa is da best
atomic forge
spanish is way simpler
random basin
But yeah. Eurydice says something about how when you get Shaded (AKA die), you kinda get "locked in" to your prime.
slate oracle
I like what they did with Dusa, the old one was kinda boring
random basin
Assuming you don't get sent to actual heck
atomic forge
welcome to heck
random basin
and suffer forever at the hand of the most overbearing dad in all the known universe
random basin
I want a moddable hades.
So that I can make my dream mod:
Skades.
Where I photoshop skelly's head onto every character portrait (sans Zag)
echo mist
can't have Shades without Hades!
atomic forge
bruh
random basin
and make it so that every voice line ends with "boyo"
atomic forge
i need that mod now
echo mist
Sha-dees
slate oracle
Just get this guy the mod panel
spring scaffold
Don't forget to photoshop Skelly's head on Skelly's portrait.
slate oracle
yes
random basin
Skelly says boyo twice at the end of each sentence
atomic forge
boyo boyo...
random basin
(a friend of mine is playing hades, too, and we now call each other "boyo")
slate oracle
Hades' dialogues must be fun
I mean actual Hades'
We have nothing more to discuss, boyo
random basin
You mean dad
echo mist
anyone waste nectar on hades yet?
slate oracle
That's a good idea
slate oracle
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH
random basin
or "Dad kept hitting me with the sweep"
slate oracle
Btw did they make dad stronger? He beat my ass a couple times since the update
echo mist
speaking of dad
random basin
I wasted nectar on dad
He gets mad at you
and says "never give me anything again"
or whatever
LOL
@slate oracle they didn't make dad stronger. They made healing less effective overall
So you might be entering the dad fight with less health than you're used to
slate oracle
Nah I always full health him, I guess I just got worse from not playing
worldly beacon
since this chat seems to be much more active now, imma ask again lol
does anyone know what things we need for the Dusa legendary keepsake?
slate oracle
Also, the other day I played a RIDICOLOUS build with Aphrodite's caste + the new glacial cast buff
The cast itself applied 2 debuffs
500+ damage on a single cast
Poor dad got destroyed
spring scaffold
Keep talking to Dusa and you'll eventually get a prophecy about renovating the lounge.
random basin
I thought you just had to listen to more chats with dusa
so I could be wrong
That's a scary sounding build Hypo
frigid pier
If the new aspects are going to be about future wielders, what could they possibly have for the rail? Colt aspect?
random basin
@echo mist that's probably more for #h1-builds-and-combat ?
echo mist
you right
slate oracle
@random basin yeah I also had the casting aspect of the sword and some Chaos' help. Scary stuff.
random basin
Yikes
worldly beacon
@spring scaffold i have the prophecy, but the lounge has multiple 1k+ gem cost purchases
i figure surely they arent all necessary
slate oracle
@frigid pier that actually sounds cool, like some big projectile thing
What do you guys think about the new weapons' mods? The hammer ones
random basin
Serrated edge on spear might be super bonkers
slate oracle
I miss the old railgun mods :c
random basin
But I really like the new "hold to harge the spear throw" one
slate oracle
What does serrated edge do?
slate oracle
Oh yeah that one, haven't even tried, sounded too good to be true
random basin
so you get shorter dashes but your dash attack hits thrice
Well the 20% less dash distance is rough
for example, you can't dash out of Dad's sweep on reachtion anymore
slate oracle
Is it tho?
random basin
you have to anticipate it
random basin
Yup
slate oracle
Not only the attack range???
random basin
even if you dont dash attack
slate oracle
That SUCKS
random basin
No the attack range is the same
the DASH ITSELF
is shorter
So you become super less mobile
slate oracle
I'm never gonna pick it
worldly beacon
its super OP
slate oracle
I always feel like a slug without 3+ dashes
random basin
Here's the doozy.
worldly beacon
as long as you get +dashes its really not a huge deal
slate oracle
If you don't you are a sitting target tho
worldly beacon
i killed Papa with the guan yu spear with it without even healing from the spin at all
and without losing a defy
because my damage was so nuts high
aphrodite attack build for raw damage, artemis support stuff for crits
MELTED him
slate oracle
Guan Yu is... strange. with the first form I managed to get to dad with 150 health
and the damage is way too high
random basin
I did Guan Yu Spear + Aphro Epic Special boon + 75% special damage buff from chaos. All in my first 6 rooms on tartarus. Here's what that looks like.
slate oracle
@random basin dayuuuuuum
That looks fun
I'm gonna try it.
Going to bed for today, thanks to everyone for the chat
slate oracle
@random basin you are one funny dude, keep it up
random basin
Have a good night Hypoenuse. I'll poke pythagoras next time I wanna find you
minor oyster
Just realized Hades's final boss theme God of the Dead has a 3rd phase segment to the track
I hope that gets added at some point
Extreme Measures 4 perhaps?
unique solar
Quick question relevant to why I just died so fast:
Do the green jars in the Hades fight count as traps? Because that would mean they're affected by heightened security and explain why I just got one-shotted by a jar.
unique solar
well that explains a lot. And that makes Heightened Security a LOT worse than it seemed considering how often Hades respawns those jars.
150 damage is nothing to scoff at. Skelly's tooth wasn't enough to save me.
shy nimbus
Yeah, it used to be 270. I avoid those jars like plague they are
@worldly beacon have you got the Dusa LKeepsake yet?
shy nimbus
I's pretty simple for me. I bought all the Lounge items (except for that one 1500 gems and all the rugs variations. One of each is enough. So there would only be 2 rugs in the Lounge).
Then talk to Dusa who is usually in the same hall with Nyx. She can be hidden behind the wall.
worldly beacon
okay. So i still have like 250 or so gems to spend probably
they're such a pain to grind
even going after troves with the poseidon boon i only get like maybe 150 a run
and ive been goin at it for a while
shy nimbus
Try fishing.
worldly beacon
ive been gettin all the ones i see, but thats an average of about 1 per run
which is usually amounting to 20-25 gems
depending on what fish i get
shy nimbus
Weird, because Styx usually spawns a fishing spot for me after I finish a branch (is it a bug? Idc because it's nice to have those fishing moments in Styx)
Also, Dusa has spilled the bean for me. Zag thought Dusa didn't know about his mission to find Persephone.
But... Dusa already heard people's gossips about it (I guess Than).
The help, they truly know everything in the house, don't they?
So now everybody in the underworld know. Just the matter of time before Demeter hears about this...
limber wadi
yo so i bought that lyre for my room.... how tf do i learn to get better at it?
mystic tusk
gotta do a few more runs, interact with some people you know who play the lyre
limber wadi
you mean just.... orpheus and eurydice?
cloud lion
atomic forge
Is that a Bahroo Thanatos emote?
hollow garden
pretty sure its a rooSnap
awww do i not have a 02snap
now i want a 02snap
one thing that sucks about nitro is now I have so many dang emotes it takes forever to find the one i want
and im in too many discords with anime reactions
daring imp
At what point do I need ambrosia?
pastel herald
Give out nectar to Meg, Than, Skelly, Sisyphus and Dusa. You'll reach a point where their codex entries show hearts with keyhole indicating you need to do quests for (some of) them, then you can start giving them ambrosia after
Basically they are late game nectars
Oh you'll also need them to unlock and upgrade legendary keepsakes
craggy shadow
Are there plans for everyone to have legendary keepsakes? I can't recall
bleak osprey
im still holding out hope for an achilles summon.......
if i Believe hard enough it will be true
junior field
it's gonna be existing character's
Hades' own, perhaps?
something you steal from his room once it becomes available closer to release
perhaps Persephone's!
atomic forge
Those are also two options.
tiny sequoia
Turns out its head chef the whole time
A wet fish falls from the sky
You know, I wonder how far ahead sgg team has planned this out
Do they even know what the last summon will be? Do they know what the last weapon will be?
atomic forge
Well, the last weapon comes out in the next update, so probably.
stark tulip
I think the most likely final summon is Cerberus
still got a couple hearts on that boy
feral hamlet
where am i supposed to fish ?
atomic forge
some rooms have shiny spots that you can interact with, easiest to find in tartarus and styx from what i've seen @feral hamlet
atomic forge
you get gems when you give the fish to the chef in the lounge
amount varies per type of fish, so far i've seen anything from 5 to 40
stark tulip
you can also get rarer items with good timing/rarer locations
atomic forge
oh dang
spring scaffold
Fishing in the Chaos realm can get you a diamond or titan blood.
junior field
also, you get a fishing pool after every tunnel in Styx
spring scaffold
Didn't get lucky enough to have a fishing spot in there yet, though, so it's probably quite rare.
junior field
or at least a pool has a much higher chance to spawn after clearing a tunnel
spring scaffold
And yeah, keep an eye out in Styx, lots of fishes to catch there.
junior field
Styx's fish only give gems but they give lots of em
spring scaffold
I think you're limited to 3 fishing spots in Styx, with only one at a time. Not 100% sure, might have simply missed additional ones.
signal palm
middle of left stream, middle of right stream, one near cerb, one below the shop, far right past charon(maybe?)
those are all the ones i've seen in styx
atomic forge
fishing time? 
i think fishing spots stop spawning once you get tge satyr sack
at least thats whats been happening to mr
god i cant type on my phone my bad
signal palm
i don't think that's the case
lament flame
Now Hades is fishing simulator (but in Hell) 
atomic forge
fish hell fish hell
signal palm
pretty sure i've had a sack and a spot near cerberus and was scared (for no reason) to accidentally give him the sack
signal palm
who knows honestly
fishing is weird
atomic forge
yea
lament flame
Tho it is fun
atomic forge
but i love fishing minigames with a passion
signal palm
same tho
atomic forge
makes every game with one goty in my eyes
signal palm
miss me with complete games based on actually fishing
but fishing minigames usually mean your game is the best
atomic forge
yes legit
lament flame
You right
atomic forge
fishing minigame means goty 90% of thr time
spring scaffold
Stardew Valley fishing is best fishing.
atomic forge
me seeing romance, fishing, and house costumization with the contractor: damn i love Stardew Valley
SJDjdjd stardew is really fun with fishing
i maxed it first of all
atomic forge
helps a lot that elliott loves fish :)
i found it harder on pc
but easier on the switch
idk why
low blade
It threw me for a loop at first, so I used a mod on the pc version to make it easier to get the timing down, then I could do it just fine unmodded on pc and switch
rich widget
how do i fish boys?
pallid crag
i dont think than swims much
lament flame
haha
solar cove
you find fishing spots in some locations during a run - clear the room first, then go there and interact
interact again when the bobber is fully under water, you got a fish
solar cove
zag sometimes comments to them being there, other times its a ping sound as help to find them
gusty vale
i also have a question, how do you get the rod? i know you get it from the contractor but how do you make it available to buy?
solar cove
not sure bit i think i remember it came up in some conversation but no idea with who even
solar cove
it should be in the first tab btw
gusty vale
hmm, yeah it's def not there :/
lament flame
Agree, but I appreciate that at least it exists
atomic forge
placeholder!
timid abyss
nice boon
pallid crag
maybe you missed it
solar cove
it depends - after you start fishing you have to wait until the bobber goes fully under water but it shouldnt be that long
and after it happens its too late
rich widget
so only purpose of fishing is to exchange it for green gems?
lament flame
Yep
lament flame
Huh so for Tartarus it is mostly gems?
pallid crag
i think its gems -> keys -> nectar -> darkness
atomic forge
styx gives lotsa gems
rich widget
to learn how to play a lure i need to keep spamming this staff, right? https://puu.sh/F3doO/73a5032537.png
atomic forge
not actually sure since i always get more than one different kind of fish so idk how much each gives, but i think puffers are worth a buncha gems. maybe same as knuckleheads? (20)
lament flame
Thank you
rich widget
i just can say that i understand how to fish at the last chamver and cought 2 bubble like fishes
it chief gives me 80
rich widget
at the last chamber, where is cerberus guarding
rich widget
btw, only 1 new aspect was introduced?
rich widget
just got my last run with it, kinda imbalanced if you gotcha both hammer upgrades, which max spin radius, speed and dmg
rich widget
on my way to 3rd skelly statue
whole path
How do you open up the new spear aspect?
lament flame
Talk to Achilles
whole path
Ahhhhh he hasn't been in the house yet lol
spring scaffold
Guan Yu is OP even without Quick Spin or Massive Spin. With both (which I got in both my Guan Yu runs), it's absolutely broken. Never even came close to losing a death defiance.
north remnant
Personally, without those hammers, I prefer running it as a special
The firecracker has really good dmg and aoe
spring scaffold
Special is really good. And unupgraded spin is still good enough for heals (especially if you stun enemies in it with your special)
north remnant
I run pierced butterfly with it a lot, so I usually dont take advantage of the heals
Just run away and special lol
atomic forge
you get the romance after having all the hearts with given character and an extra scene happening no?
north remnant
Just noticed that the guan yu special with epic hermes special speed permastuns
minor oyster
@lament flame I've played the damn instrument for like 15 runs in a row now
Still didn't get the Fates thing to tick off
lament flame
Seems like it is the only way to do so
minor oyster
Its probably bugged. AGAIN.
Like all of the side story stuff progression for me breaks
The last batch of stuff only got fixed by the update
I guess I have to wait two months
lament flame
Maybe so
I played too little to draw any conclusions on this situation. To tired to play games 
spring scaffold
Have you tried:
- going back to Orpheus after playing it, without doing a run in between
- playing it 20 times in a row without doing a run
atomic forge
ive gotten progress on the lyre but not quite there yet
minor oyster
Yes I've done that
Many times in fact
I've also removed and put back the thing recently too hoping it would do something
Like when I troubleshooted Meg's quest by turning off Extreme Measures and back on again
That fixed that there but not here sadly
still kayak
How do you get hymm of zag to appear? I had it available and it disappeared after update (just now realizing it's part of the quest to free orpheus
chilly shard
I think my fav line in this game is when u pis of dio and he goes "hey man wr all make mistakes, infact you made one now"
minor oyster
@still kayak You purchase Orpheus long before the Hymm thing shows up
Zag will start telling Orpheus tall tales and then at some point when you pick up a Dionysus boon he and you concoct a plan for Orpheus
mystic tusk
my most recent victory screen had "disciple of hermes" right under where it says "victory!", when it was neither my fastest run, nor even my fastest run with that weapon
has anyone figured out what that means yet?
pallid crag
i think that happens when you kill hades fast
ignoring the rest of the run
but i could be wrong
mystic tusk
as good a theory as any! thanks
oh also did they take out being able to get a perfect landing when starting a run, or am I just bad at it?
I haven't played in a couple of major updates
whoops wrong channel
night quest
how do i get secret stashes? is it about getting the max level of affinity? or what
lament flame
Maxed out characters (Than, Meg, Dusa, Skelly and Sisyphus) with nectar and wait for their quest to get chance to give them ambrosia
night quest
i love meg, i think i know my future goal
and how do they work? those stashes, they have like different bonuses or what?
atomic forge
good taste
lament flame
But quest needed only for last three of them
pallid crag
you dont need to give achilles nectar or ambrosia for that
night quest
so how do i get the new aspect?
pallid crag
unlock "several" aspects, then just talk to him
burnt harbor
Gotta say Imagine being so badass in life that people declare you a God Of War in death
mystic tusk
oh, excellent, thanks for letting me know
night quest
btw about that spear from achilles
i need to upgrade one aspect more than one time etc
or unlock several?
lament flame
Unlock several as I remember
sharp axle
And it’s any unlocks too, I think. I think out of all the spears, I only had the Achilles unlocked, and I only had it at level 1
keen grail
So I managed to get my first victory after 16 attempts. :D This dash build is surprisingly fun and deals a ton of damage https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/250667210979147778/670304245341487114/firstvictorybuild.png
lament flame
Congrats!
keen grail
Aye
night quest
oh
lament flame
Yes
night quest
haven't met her yet
keen grail
I must say chill isn't great for bosses tbh. It's much harder to avoid abilities if their timings suddenly change across the fight
It's almost a negative
For Hades it's good though since you get more time to avoid the huge sweep
keen grail
Theseus
night quest
i have some serious problems with avoiding spear shot
;o
ik hiding behind pillars is the best
keen grail
Yeah, if he's slowed it becomes difficult to properly avoid the spear if you're used to the regular timing
night quest
yup
keen grail
I haven't encountered the improved version of Theseus yet. The hades trailer from a month ago however spoiled it :D
night quest
improved?
keen grail
I guess it comes from the additional boss abilities clause in the infernal contract?
night quest
oh
lament flame
Extreme Measures in Pact of Punishment
night quest
i did not met him with those yet
keen grail
New and improved Theseus. With more Pew Pew and more Choo Choo.
night quest
gonna be pain in the ass i guess ;p
lament flame
Looking like a clown
keen grail
🤡
night quest
lament flame
I mean this mask...
He just looking so funny with it. EM Theseus is most laughable thing in game before he hits you
night quest
true
lament flame
Tho he is easier than normal version
keen grail
EM Theseus is the most laughable thing in game
ftfy
lament flame
Agree
timid abyss
Legit though, Theseus gave me the most brain damage the first 2 times I got to him
Now he's just a complete pushover
keen grail
Yeah, at first I also thought "Wow, this boss is tough". But it turns out the fight becomes rather easy if you level up as a player
The Hydra has much more going on at once
jagged shadow
https://i.imgur.com/gKv0TUY.png When you get a straight but it's not flushed
lament flame
"Full armored" build
burnt harbor
||Meg and Zag just shared a drink|| is this the end of Meg's questline?
shy anvil
no.....
lament flame
She must appear in Zag's chambers for second time (if you didn't mean maxed out affinity gauge/forged bond)
lavish frost
I'm trying to give Thanatos a elixir to romance him but he straight up hides from me
"yeah i helped you bye b"
Then I never hear from him again
burnt harbor
No, no
shy anvil
give the ambrosia first
burnt harbor
||I mean they literally sat together to share an ambrosia||
burnt harbor
And then a message that said "Bond forged" or something like that appeared
shy anvil
oh sweet child
lament flame
Oh then wait for something special~
lament flame
He give you a buff
shy anvil
a buff
lament flame
It's random
shy anvil
i thought it was just 2-4% damage reduction
lament flame
Not always
shy anvil
i think you need to give bouldy nector to get sisyphus' plushi anyway
but i'm not sure
burnt harbor
I wonder if Sisyphus is in fact manipulating us 👀
He already did it with three different gods
lament flame
I don't think so
shy anvil
that;s what he wants you to think
lament flame
Actually I am sure he isn't
shy anvil
he's just staying in there because he's still building his connections
one he's got enough money to bribe someone, he's taking bouldy and busting out
lament flame
burnt harbor
You can't make him roll a rock, if he takes the rock with him 🙂 👈
earnest spindle
He's gonna push it right out the door
shy anvil
you think cerberus can stop him?
he does 1000 damage per hit
he's unlimited got food
runic terrace
cerberus: ooh a ball to play with
shy anvil
he's safe
burnt harbor
There is enough Satyr food for everyone
shy anvil
that's what he only gives you
junior field
besides, Cerberus prefers satyr sacks over sandwiches
shy anvil
he's got enough for himself
nope, he's gonna play bowling with cerberus' 3 heads
STRIKE
junior field
Cerberus would just put his paw on Bouldy and turn him into rubble
lunar kiln
no!! theyd become friends
shy anvil
pssh
junior field
you're forgetting that the dog is at least twice as tall as Boudly
junior field
Hades is throwing on purpose
junior field
he wants Zag to get out but he wants him to be strong
junior field
want, you don't like the face of winter?
grand anchor
i love the grandma update pfp
junior field
chill
shy anvil
wait, is that you, bird?
lunar kiln
who
junior field
is this an Always Sunny reference?
shy anvil
weren't you a bird last time?
shy anvil
ohh
atomic forge
Alright, question: Did you just flip Demeter's mouth upside down?
lunar kiln
no she's smiling
atomic forge
Yeah, so, did you flip Demeter's mouth upside down?
lunar kiln
ive always been cool
shy anvil
that's her alternate portrait
atomic forge
Blood and darkness.
shy anvil
like with meg's and than's
lunar kiln
no swear words in this server, little sprout
junior field
also, I've never noticed that Meg's boss room has all the furies stuff
shy anvil
what?
junior field
like statues of the sisters, and big statues of her
shy anvil
i'm too busy getting my ass beat
lunar kiln
yeah they changed meg's chamber this update
junior field
top right and bottom corners have all sisters, Meg is in the middle left and exit columnus
I wonder if the other sisters have that, too
final stream
Fishing question: The first few times i gave the collected fishes i got 200+ gems, later times 100+,etc, and i wondered how much each fish gives. Cougt 1 just to see and got 5 gems....i'm confused xD
junior field
also, extreme Hydra doesn't have normal Hydra's new logo on the ground
stark tulip
afaik, depends on the fish you catch. Don’t know if you get more for the first find of each
final stream
yea, been wondering about that. Would be usefull info to have at the wiki xD
junior field
Styx fish give only gems and they give more than everyone else
so you're more likely to net more gems than anything else in the end
lunar kiln
styx fish give an absurd amount of gemstones
dusty notch
can anyone explain me what does BossDamageTrait boon does?
runic terrace
why are u calling them styx fish and not fish styx
atomic forge
. . .
junior field
server rules prohibit me from replying to that question, Kanye
but you like em, don't you?
atomic forge
kornelius, that's Poseidon's new boon.
Any attacks that have his knockback effect will be boosted a small percentage against bosses to account for the lack of knockback.
Has anyone else forged a bond with Dusa yet?
shy anvil
yeah, some dude here complained about it
atomic forge
Complained about it?
shy anvil
yeah
junior field
cause it doesn't go anywhere
atomic forge
I don't know whether to scream at my computer or laugh until my lungs pop.
random basin
So Guan Yu is 4th spear aspect. Does this imply that all the 4th aspects are gonna be gameplay-changing aspects to the same degree? Does it also mean that they are gonna take from different mythologies?
With that in mind, I propose: 4th Sword Aspect is "Aspect of Pendragon" and it's literally Excalibur.
atomic forge
One data point isn't a pattern, but it's certainly a neat concept.
I'd like to see the second 4th Aspect.
random basin
i mean it's also the appearance of the aspect, but I get you
dull shadow
game play wise, it's not terrible but will take a lot of getting use to
dull shadow
the hp reduction makes you really change how you play
idk how I feel about it but it is game changing
VERY different way of playing
stiff geyser
I'm interested to see the tradeoff aspects for the other weapons
random basin
it's fun because you get some free heat off it
Get lasting consequences up to 75%
the healing you get can't be reduced to below 1
so the spin still heals for the same amount
junior field
I do mind it, lore wise
especially with a pantheon as big as greek, they coulda picked anyone
random basin
I'm ok with it, seeing as they're basically saying other mythologies can happen and that lets them be whacky with some of the aspects.
Like we wouldnt be able to get a japanese katana sword aspect otherwise
atomic forge
Guan Yu was a real person.
random basin
I mean, Nemesis sword isn't a katana to me (thing's too thick) but it's fine.
junior field
besides, which nation would you file the gun under?
atomic forge
America.
random basin
I think it's a lot of figuring out what are cool iconic guns/swords/bows/spears
stark tulip
I’m still praying the gun aspect is dual Bonnie and Clyde revolvers/pistols
be SO dope
tame bronze
John Wick aspect
junior field
King Arthur sword
stark tulip
I don’t know that every aspect has to be “iconic” necessarily- I would love to see some underutilized lore
stiff geyser
I really love bow so I'm really excited for legendary bow
random basin
Bonnie and Clyde revolvers
coarse stone
Perseus' Shield might be good for it
random basin
or even just a rambo bazooka
coarse stone
(The Shield that helped defeat Medusa)
random basin
petrify shield
coarse stone
Dusa tied to the shield?
coarse stone
Making cleaning puns
random basin
ahaha
BTW I like new Dusa
she's less "oh no Zagreus senpai noticed me kyaaa"
and more "Prince I have 99999 things to do pls stop talking to me"
LOL
junior field
did they change all of her dialogues?
I don't believe I've heard any of the old Aphrodite after the winter update
coarse stone
all Aphrodite did for me was speculate on Than and Zag's relationship. With hearts.
Dear Aph, please stay out of my relationship. Mess up your own, k thanks. Love, Than and Zag"
coarse stone
Meg would have some very VERY good snark for her lol
shy anvil
keep talking smack about aph and she's gonna make you fall in love with boulldy
coarse stone
Eh, some people already have
Pretty sure I've seen at least one person who wanted a relationship with Dusa, Bouldy, Sisiphyus, Meg, Than, and Achilles
burnt harbor
I love how the Update gave the contratist some builders and hard hats lol
cloud bridge
Is Dusa romancable now?
shy anvil
no, sadly
coarse stone
It's like Pokemon, only with dating and hunky greek men and Meg
amber canyon
Yeah the aspects dont seem to confirm other mythologies
coarse stone
Except for Guan Yu's stuff
amber canyon
As much as they represent legendary wielders of legendary weapons
coarse stone
who was deified I think
burnt harbor
#TeamArtemisOrTeamGoHome
amber canyon
His Spear only confirms that Guan Yu also is a real person in Hades
coarse stone
Well to be fair, we're operating under the pretense that the Greek gods are real xD
cloud bridge
The Megara gang will not stand for this
burnt harbor
As I said earlier this morning
amber canyon
Anyway, my guess is the guns aspect wont be a gun in the normal sense
burnt harbor
Imagine being so badass that they name you God Of War posthumously
coarse stone
Somehow I don't think Meg would appreciate Aphrodite hitting on Zag
amber canyon
Could be a crossbow (I mean it does already fire bolts)
Could be any non-bow projectile weapon of myth
coarse stone
Meg is protective of Than at least
cloud bridge
Aphrodite would love to play matchmaker though
coarse stone
Yeah, and Meg would be "Aphrodite, get your nose out of this or I WILL punish you."
burnt harbor
I think Meg is far below Aphrodite station
coarse stone
and Meg has Zagreus on call and Aphrodite doesn't go into the underworld
amber canyon
Even messing with Ares is a wiser decision
cloud bridge
Meg would probably know to suck it up as she does with Hades, but she would be pretty mad haha
coarse stone
I think she sucks up to Hades because he can actually punish her
Aphrodite can't go into the Underworld
and I don't think Meg really leaves it all that much thanks to Zag
shy anvil
i think she's just a career woman
cloud bridge
Aphrodite literally started the Trojan war she could definitely mess up Meg's life somehow
coarse stone
actually, that was Eris
amber canyon
I mean, there is nothing saying that Aphrodite cant go into the underworld
They choose not to
coarse stone
who started the Trojan War
fickle yoke
@coarse stone eris
amber canyon
And yeah, Aphrodite will find a way
cloud bridge
They all played their parts
coarse stone
and Eris is Meg's big sister lol
fickle yoke
and all gods a relatives
cloud bridge
Aphrodite, Eris, Paris, hell the people who did not invite Discordia
fickle yoke
in some way
coarse stone
Plus I think as soon as someone tells Nyx that Aphrodite is bullying Zag
It's game over for Aph xD
turbid void
it's worth noting that the furies have a somewhat unclear relationship to power level of the gods, considering they were born from titan's blood
amber canyon
True, Nyx is pretty high on the list of "gods not to mess with"
cloud bridge
Nyx has to keep good relations with the Olypians she wants Than to get out after all
coarse stone
Nyx pretty much only tolerates Hades' orders
fickle yoke
@amber canyon she is
atomic forge
She's older than any of the gods.
turbid void
Nyx is one of the titans that was spared
coarse stone
all of her children are personifications actually come to think of it
atomic forge
Only character older than Nyx is Chaos.
turbid void
Direct daughter of chaos too
atomic forge
Hades plays it cool, but Nyx is every bit his equal. It's why he doesn't just shut down the Mirror.
coarse stone
(I want to see her lecture Persephone though)
amber canyon
Technically Nyx isnt a god, she is a seperate line
cloud bridge
I look forward to seeing Nyx' full artwork
amber canyon
Anyway, its not clear what the status is in the Hades world
fickle yoke
@atomic forge who was Chaos 1st child?
coarse stone
"Zagreus is MY son. YOU abandoned him."
fickle yoke
do we know
burnt harbor
I really want to see Nyx real model
lament flame
Yees
fickle yoke
well Uranus was same Chaos child
coarse stone
I hope it's tasteful and motherly at least
turbid void
i think given chaos' name dropping of nyx as a primordial force, we can assume that at the very least she's equivalent to a god, if not stronger
cloud bridge
I really want to see Nyx romance option
turbid void
turbid void
and zag sees her as a mother
coarse stone
lets please not lewd the mom
amber canyon
Yeah that would be pretty uncomfortable
Anyway, I do wonder what theyll go for with Nyx
coarse stone
Probably as a chessmaster
burnt harbor
This is the Greek pantheon.
Blood ain't a problem
coarse stone
as she helps Zag get free and find Persephone
Just to yell at Persephone for abandoning Zag
amber canyon
I meant visually
turbid void
also interesting thing that's been covered here:
persephone isn't in the land of hades
atomic forge
I'm hoping she'll still be veiled to an extent.
amber canyon
The thing is that Nyx was described as very powerful but also very beautiful by the traditional standards
coarse stone
She's just not on Olympus Fel, that's all xD
atomic forge
I don't know, something about her voice so far makes me think "We won't be seeing her face much."
amber canyon
Have Nyx still be largely obscured
Also fits with her being the personification of night
coarse stone
Nyx should remain mysterious
cloud bridge
Is it possible to romance Thanatos before Meg? I haven't found a youtube channel where this happens (because Meg shows up earlier and a lot more frequently I guess)
coarse stone
Yes
turbid void
IIRC kore wasn't often on olympus because she technically wasn't a full goddess
burnt harbor
Honestly the placeholder model fits Charon actually
atomic forge
Charon and Nyx get hooded portraits.
amber canyon
Maybe she wears a cloak made out of the Night Sky
coarse stone
you can romance Than and Meg and they are seperate
atomic forge
merel Yes. I finished Than's path before I finished Meg's.
coarse stone
I think I'm going to just friendzone meg
glossy furnace
Than Best Boy
turbid void
I don't want zag to romance than because they're brothers
atomic forge
@burnt harbor I mostly agree, I just wish it were a little more distinct.
turbid void
but I personally want to romance than
atomic forge
They're foster brothers.
coarse stone
She deserves to be focused on
fickle yoke
@glossy furnace Cerberus 300% best boy|!
atomic forge
Foster sister.
amber canyon
Time to say something controversial
atomic forge
None of the three are related by blood.
coarse stone
Meg is Zag's sister
amber canyon
Meg > Than
cloud bridge
@turbid void wouldn't be Greek mythology without a bit of incest
fickle yoke
@coarse stone they are not relatives
atomic forge
Not controversial, correct.
glossy furnace
Dog always bestest of boys
turbid void
south pewter
Dusa > Meg > Than 
burnt harbor
Isn't Nyx a stepmother for all of them?
coarse stone
Of course they're not relatives
amber canyon
Ok time for something very controversial
coarse stone
and Nyx had Thanatos without a daddy
fickle yoke
@burnt harbor Tomatos Nyx son
amber canyon
Than and Meg > Dusa
tame bronze
I prefer Than and I will die on this hill.
atomic forge
Oh hell no, Dusa is amazing.
coarse stone
She has parthogenesis 😮
fickle yoke
and Hypnos
turbid void
Dusa is adorable but I would say not relationship adorable
burnt harbor
Zag: I love you, step-bro
south pewter
Nyx is biological mother of both Than, Hypnos, and the Fury Sisters.
atomic forge
Not the Furies.
amber canyon
See, I dont like Dusa as much
atomic forge
They were born out of Titan blood.
amber canyon
I think she is just ok
stiff geyser
woo New patch
fickle yoke
@south pewter no not furies
burnt harbor
Who is older? Than or Hypnos?
fickle yoke
Tomatos and Hypnos only
turbid void
The furies were from when some random ass titan got a close shave to the nads
atomic forge
Than or they're twins.
coarse stone
Thanatos and Hypnos are twins
cloud bridge
Dusa is adorable, but she worships Zag way too much that is not healthy for a relationship
coarse stone
and I'd probably say Hypnos is older
sharp axle
Thanatos is overly dramatic and sort of rude. I don’t think he’s good dating material
coarse stone
Sleep probably existed before death itself
burnt harbor
Well, Than won the coin flip in that one
south pewter
Dusa is basically a Yandare to Zag, except she's not violent.
coarse stone
Thanatos is NOT overdramatic D:
turbid void
Than is only rude because he's sad that zag is leaving because he liked having a little brother
it's why he still helps
tame bronze
Hypnos is probably like .3 seconds older.
south pewter
Then again, Zagreus can be considered to be Dionysis depending on the version of Greek Mythology.
sharp axle
Meg is still way more level-headed and reasonable. And she actually talks to him
coarse stone
Hypnos is probably older but forgot it because he was asleep when he was born
fickle yoke
@south pewter he not
cloud bridge
I think once you get to understand Than you will find him not so much rude as hurt by what Zag is doing and having trouble expressing that.
amber canyon
My main issue with Dusa is that her voice and demeanor slightly irritate me
sharp axle
Instead of “I’m busy” poof
amber canyon
And Im not sure why
burnt harbor
Also I wonder if in the Hades verse, did Sisyphus trolled Thanatos as he did in the OG Tales?
coarse stone
Yes
turbid void
Meg and Zag were a thing at one point, but they're not anymore
coarse stone
Than mentions Sisiphyus
turbid void
which makes me think that won't happen again
amber canyon
Well, you can make it a thing again
coarse stone
Yeah, I prefer friendzoning Meg and being an awesome friend for her
turbid void
besides I think meg deserves someone better than zag as much as I love him
amber canyon
Through the power of Social Links
fickle yoke
@south pewter didnt u open Zagreus Hymn?
south pewter
fickle yoke
i know this
cloud bridge
I think I will go for Meg, though I will feel bad for friendzoning Than
coarse stone
since she probably hurts from the breaking of their relationship last time
south pewter
Just saying, there's a bit of liberty taken when it comes to lore in Hades The Game.
fickle yoke
but ingame they have very funny explanation of it
burnt harbor
Conflated with Dionysius?
So that's why they made That Orpheus joke lmao
tame bronze
This has to be the most people I've seen typing
atomic forge
You can romance multiple characters.
lament flame
ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH FEL AND PANDA
fickle yoke
@south pewter it's just a joke
coarse stone
I actually just am not really a fan of open or poly relationships personally ;x
fickle yoke
of Dio and Zag
burnt harbor
It was the most hilarious scene of the game
turbid void
south pewter
There's also the bit where Zagreus is actually eaten by the Titans
cloud bridge
You expected Zagreus, but it was me DIO!
fickle yoke
@south pewter Hymn mentioned it too
turbid void
I'm a big fan of poly relationships but I still think Meg deserves someone better than Zag
burnt harbor
Seeing Zag being so eager to troll Orphy with Dio was funny as hel
coarse stone
I think Than and Meg deserve all of the love ;x
south pewter
and he got revived by one of the Olympic gods taking his still beating god heard to a random Greek Woman
cloud bridge
Orph is such a downer for like the first 40 conversations I don't mind Zag snarking him
coarse stone
so Zag's like "Time to make myself look AWESOME"
fickle yoke
@south pewter just give Dio more nectar and Prank orpheus
burnt harbor
And because he was kind of an a*******le to Eurydice
coarse stone
and Than and Meg are sighing in the background
fickle yoke
u will find out all this stuff source
south pewter
@fickle yoke Did. If you look into the lore via Google it's also a bit different.
turbid void
poor eurydice deserves a ton of love as well
lament flame
Yes
cloud bridge
Eurydice is super awesome
south pewter
Eurydice is in love with cooking though 
cloud bridge
I actually prefer Eurydice's singing to Orpheus
burnt harbor
I love how she has a beautiful and soft voice singing but then you hear her speak and she is full of sass
south pewter
Ashely Barrett's voice is, in some context, more preferable compared to Darren Korb's
Then again, I prefer both.
coarse stone
Yeah, she's a sassy character even in Hades and darn if she doesn't rock it
I think Orpheus' voice can sound a bit..uncomfortable
I think it's the continuous falsetto maybe?
burnt harbor
Were they the same that voiced the minstrel and Celeste on Pyre?
south pewter
Fun fact, the VA for Eurydice is different than the singer of Eurydice
turbid void
Yeah
cloud bridge
Do you get more voice lines if you go for the poly option or if you commit to either Than or Meg?
atomic forge
@burnt harbor I believe so.
coarse stone
I think you get more lines if you for both of them at the same time
turbid void
Ashley Barrett has done the female vocals for all of the supergiant games so far
she is amazing
coarse stone
but I wonder if there ARE any lines for Than only or Meg only relationships
burnt harbor
There can't be a SG game without a good singer lol
south pewter
Best songs' still Build the Wall and In Circles.
coarse stone
Yeah, Build That Wall got me introduced to SGG
turbid void
My boyfriend and I got together listening to Paper Boats
south pewter
You don't necessarily need Portal with Glados' singing, but it works well.
burnt harbor
Never played Bastion but I suppose is the same there
atomic forge
In Circles is reeeal good, but it's not Paper Boats or the second half of God of the Dead.
south pewter
Personally I prefer In Circles over Paper Boats
coarse stone
What if Tisiphone met GLaDOS
burnt harbor
My favourite is Never to Return
turbid void
honestly though The Spine has such an intense mood to it
burnt harbor
And we all become one
atomic forge
"MmmmmMURderrrr..." "Oh, I like you."
turbid void
@atomic forge I could hear that
lament flame
Yes absolutely love Never to Return
turbid void
heck sorry
cloud bridge
Alecto romance when?
south pewter
"Let's put aside our difference, for science. You Mmmmurderrrrere"
burnt harbor
I really want alecto to become a good one
turbid void
Alecto scares me :C
south pewter
Alecto is a classic Yandare
cloud bridge
I barely ever see Alecto sadly, I constantly run into "MURDERER"
turbid void
@south pewter I think she's just Yan-yan, no dere-dere