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#h1-story-discussion
lament flame
opaque hull
No entiendo la solyanka
lament flame
Don't worry we just talking about Theseus and Eurydice 😄
fickle yoke
and some boons abusing
mental robin
@lament flame are 'Элизиума' Eurydice and 'Тесей' Theseus?
fickle yoke
and 1st is Elisium
mental robin
ty ty
fickle yoke
Euro will be Эвридика
thorny sparrow
Rho = r in english
supple dagger
I just... did... a second run and got another win with the Adamant Rail... So far, I now have two win streaks. Can't wait to see it breaking by... switching to the Poseidon sword. Lol
Aphrodite + Ares boons is nice
with a side of Dionysus
lament flame
Good job. Did you tried Ares + Athena duo?
supple dagger
Not yet, though I did, one time, get the duo boon where deflected attacks inflict Doom
dusk acorn
poseidon sword is great
although every time I do it, I never get any casts
and so I just do a regular run. with a regular sword. and never use poseidon's special ability
for some reason I still have a 100% win rate with it
dusk acorn
i feel like aphrodite cast would be the best with it tbh but nope just. no casts. ever. 
supple dagger
Aphrodite's cast is kinda cute.
supple dagger
oh also I managed to also end the game with a boon that made weak enemies have a chance to charm.
lament flame
Cool
supple dagger
to a point, the run was going pretty good. And then I had one chamber in Styx where Snakestones and Satyr Cultists with armor were inside and I kept both getting poisoned and burned by the laser spread.
so I last one DD from taht
Hades was easy though
lament flame
In last run I had a chance to die from Hades hands, but thanks to Zeus Call I survived
And save my winstreak
fickle yoke
11?
lament flame
10 😉
fickle yoke
я блин даже до 8 не могу дотянуть, не говоря уж о постоянных победах(
supple dagger
oh yeah. I also remember my last run was with the Zeus aspect shield and I managed to get my special to deflect. So imagine that shield constantly flying and all you hear is CLING CLING CLING CLING CLING CLING CLING while hitting and deflecting attacks.
Was fun
lament flame
Zeus shield is neat
supple dagger
I was so used to it bouncing around that I thought the special being changed to that would hinder me. It didn't surprisingly.
lament flame
@fickle yoke у меня в игре 100+ часов лол
lament flame
Не расстраивайся. Я сама от себя не ожидала. Раньше стрик был 5 где-то.
supple dagger
okay, I just officially finished the run and as Zag is "forcibly returned to the House" by the Narrator, he said "in the name of someone sore right now"
lament flame
Always fun to hear it
fickle yoke
Да я не особо расстраиваюсь, я уже не так молод чтобы быть достаточно быстрым. Да и работа не дает нормально погружаться
@supple dagger my best part about poison bettle
supple dagger
Every other time, he kinda just died. But that was hilarious to me. I would love more of that. 😛
lament flame
I really love how Narrator always find new reasons for Zag to die in the end
haughty carbon
I so far didn't see any fun once
just that "Hades cobblestoned(?) Zag for now" or that his trials are not over yet.
lament flame
This is my favorite so far https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENXf8JhX0AAotc6.jpg
lament flame
@dawn ore Congrats!
cunning moss
@lament flame that one is brilliant
bleak osprey
@fickle yoke @lament flame Please try and stick to English while talking on the server! ^^
lament flame
Yes sir!
fickle yoke
sometimes my eng is not good enough to say what i wanted to
dry briar
Well, that was short lived
fickle yoke
u tried
dry briar
Grats though
lament flame
Ouch
I am actually wonder. Am I only one who hear audience screaming Zagreus name after we beat Minotaur and Theseus?
long fractal
No I hear it too HAHAHA
lament flame
Phew
fast idol
I finally got to give Than an actual Ambrosia and got his cute stuffed doll thingy
lament flame
Mort..is...so...cute...
lament flame
Shady can save you anytime. He actually most useful of all companions. But nevertheless I want Mort plushy
fast idol
I'm assuming giving someone Ambrosia over the heart arrow gauge leads to an actual romance?
lament flame
YAAS
fast idol
...
time to DATE this man
lament flame
Meg is cool but Than is Than (I just feel jealous to Zag towards Meg...)
She is my queen
fickle yoke
just read their names Backwards
Meg is precious Gem
and That is just Naht
Naaaaht
lament flame
Hahahaha
lament flame
Actually I just have my perspective on Zag and Meg relationship situation, so I rather stay with emo bf
But
Polyamory wins
fast idol
I guess my little gay heart just yearns for a happy gay romance in a videogame
lament flame
AGREE
lapis smelt
Polyamory works in VERY specific circumstances.
fast idol
Hedwyn in Pyre really gave them gay vibes and I was kinndddaaa dissapointed when he was with a girl haha
lapis smelt
All of the people involved need to be willing to share.
lapis smelt
This usually works best when you have people with a past relationship with each other. (Like two ex’s falling in love with the same person and then letting them patch up their relationship through said third person)
fast idol
dusa is for the big hugs
lament flame
She is!
lapis smelt
Dusa for head pats
fickle yoke
and Cerberus is best boy
lapis smelt
Watch the snake hair’s fangs though
fickle yoke
triple best boy
fickle yoke
Theseus already does it
lapis smelt
That’s just a rivalry/bromance though
fast idol
I headcanon them to have a very weird relationship where they are still figuring things out
lament flame
Or just to be friends with Asterius
lapis smelt
Friends is fine too. Even better if it ends up causing Theseus to get jealous
bleak osprey
@fickle yoke Please be mindful of server rule #1 to "be kind". Every time the subject of Thanatos comes up on the server you immediately begin speaking negatively about him. You're allowed to dislike characters, but your recent behaviour is verging into "nobody else is allowed to like this character either".
fast idol
I ALSO love how Zag appearantly had a little crush on Achilles and Achilles just shot him down haha
lapis smelt
Yep. My friend was thrilled to bits when he found out that Zag is bi and doesn’t conform to most stereotypes
Apparently Hade’s voice actor is gay too so that kind of small thing meant a lot to him
lament flame
Wow...
fickle yoke
Greek culture was ok about that
lapis smelt
Indeed. It makes sense in context. Even more so when looking at Achilles and Patro
Can’t confirm the Hades VA thing though
fickle yoke
@lapis smelt u mean voice actors?
lapis smelt
I remember seeing a comment that mentioned the VA was their boyfriend and that was reason enough to support the game. They had a picture of themselves as their profile icon so I assumed
Yep. VA is short for voice actor
fickle yoke
Kimo13.12.2018
Hades Cast:
Logan Cunningham: Lord Hades, Poseidon, Achilles, Charon & The Storyteller
Darren Korb: Zagreus, Skelly & additional voices
Marianne Miller: Athena
Peter Canavese: Zeus
Cyrus Nemati: Ares
Jamie Landrum: Artemis & Nyx
Courtney Vineys: Aphrodite & Dusa
Avalon Penrose: Megaera
Andrew Marks: Sisyphus
Michael Ailshie: Orpheus
Kelly Moore: Persephone
Greg Kasavin: Hypnos & additional voices
Solo: Cerberus
opaque hull
Persephone has a VA eh? 
lapis smelt
Yeah. The Note from her WAS voiced
opaque hull
Oh, I don't think I got the note?
fast idol
god Logan's RANGE
lapis smelt
Again. That’s why I said that I can’t confirm if the thing is true
fast idol
Voice actors will always fascinate me forever
bleak osprey
that cast list from the pins is actually quite out of date at this point
lapis smelt
I do know that Darren does ALL the sound and music related stuff.
iron flame
Our IMDB is updated however!
lapis smelt
Maybe we should get the pin updated. It doesn’t have Thanatos’s VA on it
fast idol
what Sisyphus and Hermes share a VA? Fascinating
agile wadi
i love that dusa and aphrodite share one
tiny sequoia
Neither of them wear any clothes
bleak osprey
tbh i can definitely hear the sisyphus and hermes similarities but not in a way that i could actually describe
lapis smelt
Dusa wears a headband
agile wadi
wait a second
fast idol
also Chaos and Zeus sharing a VA is incredible as well, I guess it's the extremely different tone
bleak osprey
it's like....... something about the way andrew marks finishes sentences, i think? they both have that sort of upwards tilt, almost. idk.
bleak osprey
yes!
lapis smelt
Wow
agile wadi
that is the sweetest thing lmao
fickle yoke
Does it works with Ares call? http://prntscr.com/qkjy3b
bleak osprey
cerberus is actually voiced by two very good doggos.
bleak osprey
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0111/7512/products/Bastion_Bandana_Solo_1024x1024.png?v=1542320280
lapis smelt
Although I would think that you would need three dogs to voice Cerberus. But still, mad props to the VA’s here.
bleak osprey
that's solo!
fast idol
d'ahw
bleak osprey
alas, i don't know if there are any photos around of higgins.
lament flame
What a good boy!
agile wadi
is that a merch model picture?
haughty carbon
I hope Solo gets a good pay for her VO!
agile wadi
paid in milk bones
haughty carbon
a good healthy meal
bleak osprey
@agile wadi it's from the shop page for the bastion bandana, yes!
lapis smelt
Aww. I wanted to make that ‘paid in treats’ joke Roborn
bleak osprey
(and solo is a girl just for the record ;p )
lapis smelt
Is the other dog a boy then?
agile wadi
thats fine, girls can be good boyos
lapis smelt
I had two dogs. A lovely golden retriever and a toy terrier mix
I’d post them in a pet channel if we had one
agile wadi
bleak osprey
i'm not actually sure!
atomic forge
My favorite is Greg Kasavin as Hypnos.
And let's be fair, Chaos, Hades, and Asterius all sound like they go through a little processing.
agile wadi
I love Meg's voice. its so smooth and sinister, but still like, emotional
atomic forge
Meg's voice is everything.
atomic forge
And when she trails off at the end of a line into a half-whisper. 
lament flame
I like this hoarseness in her voice
elfin orbit
why do I feel like I've heard than's voice somewhere before....somewhere prominent
bleak osprey
christopher saphire was also hedywn in pyre ( 
) and asher in transistor!
lament flame
Huh
atomic forge
I didn't get Pyre, but I instantly knew he was Asher. He's got an incredibly distinct voice.
bleak osprey
i mean in fairness, absolutely none of hedwyn's lines are in english, so
(it's a good thing too bc it would have killed me instantly)
elfin orbit
i haven't played pyre before altho i will eventually since supergiant was so generous to give it away when i got hades
agile wadi
oh, is that thanatos?
dang, i wonder if i would have recognized it without knowing that
im 2 dozen runs in and havent met him yet
dusk acorn
i'm st ill amazed zag and skelly share a VA
agile wadi
and its Darren Korb too! Skelly song when?
vagrant cloud
agile wadi
heh, well, i dont want to abuse the feedback channel
supple dagger
I'm developing a love-hate relationship with this game. The good kind. Finished a third win and having a three-win streak and then Zag's dumb(tail) and slipped on a banana peel
agile wadi
my love-hate relationship is that i need to be at work and not playing
atomic forge
My love-hate relationship with the game is when it gives me game-crashing bugs in and around the Temple of Styx.
Like crashing when I'm trying to walk through the door to the surface, or after I pick up the Darkness in a No Choice clear, the last I need for the Pact prophecy.
pliant hinge
I feel like Meg sounds like she's just straight up DONE
lyric pine
ok
that chariot theseus gets?
i dont like it in the slightest
fresh prism
man zagreus is a lovable idiot
fought asterius mini boss
asterius cuts the fight short saying he'll "recover for their next encounter"
pardon. Zagreus instead just insults him and lets him go asking who's the short one 😂
atomic forge
@lapis smelt I'm guessing that there is more reason that Hades is trying to stop him, but we're waiting for that story to be put in place.
But getting the boss fight in quickly is what SGG found important.
lapis smelt
Im of the opinion that he’s using the opportunity to train up Zag to leave the Underworld. Hades is just so bad at parenting that he has to do this in a roundabout way. That and Zag would always just reject any open offers of help (not like Hades would openly help him in the first place)
scenic anchor
what do you guys think the story will be about
seems there will be some reason for returning at least
fickle yoke
@scenic anchor someone had a theory
Zag cant stay long enough in mortal world
and he always will die eventually
he is god of reborn od smthng like that
scenic anchor
oh that's clever
scenic anchor
that makes so much sense lol
winged venture
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/560361917164814338/664238016122060813/prize.png
I have obtained glory, now I can rest until next update.
scenic anchor
nice haah
i'm way behind you just got done beating the game with all 5 weapons
(then did an extra run with exagryph because it's op as heck)
the rocket hammer for exagryph special actually weakens it imo lol
fickle yoke
why there is no prophecy for 2nd and 3rd Skelly statue(
winged venture
Maybe in the future
If nothing else you get to have multiple beautiful visages of Skelly in the corner
brazen pendant
What is ambrosia useful for?
winged venture
unlocks 4 "legendary" keepsakes that each need 10 Ambrosia to max out
4 certain NPC's will take Ambrosia instead of Nectar after a certain point
brazen pendant
Are the keepsakes good?
fickle yoke
@brazen pendant y
winged venture
they're basically use items/summons you can use 5 times per run (at max)
fickle yoke
@winged venture 10 to max and 1 to unlock no?
winged venture
yes
primal atlas
someone mentioned thanatos rareness and yeah in like 60+ runs i've seen him once in the run, zero times in the house
feels wrong
pliant hinge
As one says
Your blast outta luck
Happened to me and sysyphus too
Needed 30 runs before seeing him as well
fickle yoke
isnt that abvious?
fickle yoke
did it few hours ago
drifting iris
You need to gift her till the end to get to that point
fickle yoke
y
drifting iris
btw there was another option [
ease off]. Anyone knows what happens if you choose that option?
winged venture
I've taken the alpha stance
fickle yoke
@drifting iris u will stay as friend as i remeber
drifting iris
Ok
winged venture
In the school of Hades love making
drifting iris
What
fickle yoke
Tomatos
drifting iris
Lol
fickle yoke
blonde anime guy with scyth
drifting iris
What
winged venture
Just type Thanatos my man
drifting iris
You can have with Than
bleak osprey
the "ease off" option is for if you would rather keep things platonic with that character
drifting iris
Wow
fickle yoke
and even both
bleak osprey
you can romance both thanatos and megaera at the same time
winged venture
Sweet Thanatos love making
haughty carbon
That does sound like an weird option. Wouldn't they get in the fight if they knew you are dating them both or is there in game explanation to that?
bleak osprey
There's an in-game explanation as to why they're both fine with a polyamorous relationship, yes.
quasi swan
Thanatos needs to show up for me again. I have nectar with his name on it
haughty carbon
I keep forgetting this is a game with greek mythology in it
bleak osprey
Also, I cannot believe I have to keep telling y'all this, but just because incestuous elements are present in the original myths does not mean it's an appropriate subject to discuss on the server.
kindred bane
I wonder how they’d address the topic if hera is ever added
gusty crag
Greek mythology is unfortunately NSFW as a rule
faint socket
Yes, the current iteration of the story doesn’t include incest. Please stop talking about it.
gusty crag
Even Zag and Best Girl Artemis is technically in that category i guess
drifting iris
The best girl indeed
quasi swan
Then it’s perfection as far as I’m concerned. I adore all the voice acting and how much personality everybody seems to have
gusty crag
I refuse
The canon has been changed already for this game
Stupid star man can do nothing to my love
fickle yoke
also u can read list of her victims
gusty crag
She's already stalking you in game, if this is my time I want to get Artemis to end me
lyric pine
artemis best grill dipdip posesses the true knowledge
lyric pine
cancel wat
fickle yoke
her gifts
lyric pine
oh euridice?
quasi swan
@gusty crag blessed by the 🌙
fickle yoke
@lyric pine yes
fickle yoke
@lyric pine no
u get one
u dont like result
u exit the game
you back
u take it again for better result
repeat untill best
lyric pine
you could have explained that with better grammar, but yeah that could do with some tweaking
lyric pine
that is fair
it is a really good buff, just a pain when you get the wrong boons upgraded with it
fickle yoke
so do it again
primal atlas
they would need to pre-seed the randomization but it wouldnt be hard to fix
supple dagger
So far, the Pact of Punishment stuff hasn't been too hard, and that's including the fact that I've been visiting Chaos more often than before the pacts.
Although, the only boss I feel like is affected by the one punishment with additional attacks is the Furies.
Hydra and the Heroes feel the same.
Is that normal?
supple dagger
Atm, 1. Worked on 2 where additional foes enter encounters
supple dagger
AH okay.
fickle yoke
gl with Ex Hydra >_<
supple dagger
I'm lucky a few boon combinations help knock out armor quickly for some of the runs tbh. I was so used to losing at least one DD to Hydra that even I'm shooketh by my progression.
austere fox
alright endless mod v1.0.0 in #self-promotion
fickle yoke
@austere fox btw can u make some test mode?
austere fox
if you have any ideas send me a dm or post on the mod page so I can see all of them
test mode?
austere fox
devs have made a room for that already
flint marten
I'm dieing at Achille's reaction when asked about the codex entry about the person that he was close with ahahaha 😂
fickle yoke
where?
austere fox
only accessible through console now, but it's possible to add it to a run
it's called "EverythingTest"
so I assume you can test everything?
no time now tho, I'll try when I get home after class
lapis bluff
finally beat hades the first time without using a shield
austere fox
in the mean time if you could test my endless mod that would be great
lapis bluff
got hammer shotgun upgrade with the gun
austere fox
@lapis bluff gg mate
fickle yoke
@lapis bluff zeus and supp fire?
fickle yoke
oh 540 coins for 1 room
pearl plank
@austere fox you made an endless mod?
ooh i see
wait there's a test room accessible through console commands??
austere fox
@pearl plank yes and yes
rapid zinc
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/473685187780411405/664299880906227762/unknown.png
This is the money Zagreus,
I'll have 1468 after Hades, since Shady always drops 90 Obols
rapid zinc
So, while I still prefer Zagreus Aspect, Eris Aspect is fun! The Rockets really ruined my enjoyment of the run, though. Do not like them one bit.
lapis smelt
Yeah... they are pretty hard to aim
austere fox
Hammer upgrade rockets?
flat oyster
winter hollow
how do i max sisyphus hearts i cant give him gifts anymore..
fickle yoke
@winter hollow nectar?
so u need to make his quest
just keep meeting him
until u have Meg and Sizif scene
you can speak with him after that and recieve help
winter hollow
learn more by having conversations with sisyphus:27
does this mean i have to meet him 27 more times?
fickle yoke
if u want Comp - no
winter hollow
yeah i want his companion
winter hollow
i already met him like 5+times after i gift the last nectar
oh
whats the right chat to ask for help?
winter hollow
its his companion the harder one to get?
winter hollow
i dont have any companions yet.
fickle yoke
and Tomatos encounters are often enough
Tomatos was 1st 4 me
Skelly 2nd
Meg 3rd
and Sizif last
winter hollow
hmm i will try meg and sisyphus. thanks
fickle yoke
but anyway i forget to use them)))
proven quartz
i'm surprised we can't get cerberus as a companion
fickle yoke
well techically he is ur father's companion
proven quartz
i'm guessing the two under renovation are eurydice and patroclus
fickle yoke
ask ur Father)
rapid zinc
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/473685187780411405/664319170648735744/unknown.png
Can I get an F in the chat
26 Obols short :(
graceful wharf
should have bought the diamond first
fickle yoke
not if he goes for the win
rapid zinc
No, I should have bought the Diamond instead of the Poseidon boon
thorny sparrow
F
tranquil forge
is there a way to make you run into more Sisyphus?
i haven't met him in 3 runs
i really want to earn his compaion (legendary keepsake)
it's the last keepsake i need overall
i managed to reach to the point where i am gifting Nectars to Bouldy instead
but i can't trigger him to appear currently
managed to get the Prophecy to free him
still gathering the 10 diamonds
rotund talon
had a trash shield build
only damage was special ;-;
got phase 2 hades to half, mostly died to those freaking lazerz
tranquil forge
if you hold left click with your shield and aim toward Hades you can block 100% of the damage from the laser
and after he's finished his lasers you immediatly dash toward him with that charge and get few free hits
rotund talon
was tryna deal with skulls too sadly
vibration keeps turning itself back on and screwing me up a bit XD
wish it would stay off
rotund talon
nah think its when I enter
tranquil forge
or you didn't disable it at start of the fight
then you can click ESC and turn it off
rotund talon
yeah I have to remember tho
tranquil forge
goodluck on your next run
rotund talon
would be good if it just stayed off :P
knotty raft
of course hades disappears like 6 times during the fight when i have a minute and a half left
screw off dad, you're not my real mom
fast idol
I hate it the most when he sods off while I activate a long call
rotund talon
so the next update is a new olympian right? and then they said they were adding another weapon, any word on stuff after that like another "area" after hades?
opaque hull
Whatever will be after hades will prolly be fairly different
They'd need to rebalance stuff if they add more zones given how much you lose on hades
main dagger
How do I do skellys quests?
Playing on like 8 heat now, already have both his trinkets maxed out
rotund talon
what are the 4 characters that give the special ambrosia trinkets? and what about getting the last 2
just wanna know who to stuff with nectar
main dagger
There are only 4 in game right now
rotund talon
thought so ye
rotund talon
ah, thanks
opaque hull
I think the last 2 will prolly be hades and mom
Pure speculation here, I've a feeling that Hades won't be an enemy for the entire story
fickle yoke
@opaque hull my voice for Achiles/Patrocles and Orpheus/Euro
fickle yoke
Boon of kickin his own son boon
opaque hull
I've a feeling he'll end up helping us somehow
fickle yoke
well i thought that all this is his plan to make his son strong successor of him
opaque hull
I mean, persephone is clearly missing, and Hades clearly knows something whack is going on
He's just currently not telling us
For some godly reason
knotty raft
inb4 it's modern day and there's a nuclear winter
fickle yoke
)
austere fox
@last horizon alright gonna look into the bug
last horizon
ooo wee
pallid crag
its winter when Persephone isn't at Olympus with her mom
she can be anywhere in the mortal world
austere fox
aren't the seasons changing whenever she leaves the underworld to visit her mother in olympus?
hey king
opaque hull
Yee if she was with demeter it would be spring or summer
austere fox
did you see my endless mode?
austere fox
opaque hull
Gotta get them moneyz
austere fox
tru
fickle yoke
@pallid crag as i remeber winter is when she with his husband in underworld
pallid crag
i remember otherwise
knotty raft
after zag goes through the door after beating hades it immediately cuts to the beginning of bastion
pallid crag
all SGG games should end with rucksrolling
fickle yoke
at least not to the Skyrim beginnig
atomic forge
Zagreus walks through the door
fade to black
fade from black
"You were trying to cross the border, right? Walked right into that Imperial ambush, same as us, and that thief over there."
fickle yoke
oh no pls
steady beacon
yeah, p sure autumn is when she leaves to be with Hades, winter is the months she's there, spring s when she comes back. But in the normal myths it's because of Demeter, right? She gets filled with despair at her daughter leaving, so the seasons go cold.
So the fact that it's winter says to me that Demeter still hasn't seen Persephone in a long, long time.
fast idol
Persephone left in her letter that she's looking for her place
Not in hell and not on the mountain, but maybe somewhere between
austere fox
btw it's snowing outside so could be a clue
steady beacon
Yep! So it makes sense it's still winter, but is also kinda selfish on Persephone's part wrt all the humans having to go through eternal winter
fast idol
Which is maybe why there are so many wars currently, stocks are getting low
steady beacon
Well, she said she's leaving Hades, not that she's leaving Hell. The Narrator doesn't even say she left Hell. Just that she's somewhere between the House of Hades and Olympus.
low blade
Begun, the Resource Wars have
fast idol
Lmao imagine her just chilling in an
! Room
steady beacon
So she could be hiding in one of the other two parts of hell we haven't explored yet.
fast idol
But Hades would know she's still there if she never left the underworld right
Maybe that's why he always says Zag won't find her on the surface
steady beacon
She's the Queen of the Underworld, though, wouldn't it figure she has her own bit of control over it?
low blade
She’s also not supposed to be able to leave other than the agreed upon spring and summer visits, that coupled with Hades kind of implying that Zag doesn’t know why he can’t leave/what will happen when he tries has me thinking some weird things
fast idol
Zag is the prince and the only domain he has is over the contractor lol
steady beacon
He has to get the contractor to build a secret entrance to the hidey-hole Persephone is in
austere fox
he has control over the underworld in the name of hades
steady beacon
takes like 1000 diamonds
fast idol
Literally a child that fakes their parents signature
low blade
Only appears when you have changed the drapes 10k times
steady beacon
But we also know he doesn't have as much control as he thinks. Chaos, anyone?
fast idol
Chaos likes to chill these days
fickle yoke
time of Chaos already ended
fast idol
I love how they have infinite power but granting that on Zag would make his mind explode so they settle with some party tricks
low blade
Chaos is just happy someone noticed them and is like let’s have some fun
steady beacon
Yep! But I'm just saying, sets a precedent that someone else could follow.
low blade
If Persephone became aware of and contacted chaos via nyx for some tomfoolery that’d be interesting
Part of me is wondering does Zag count as a part of Persephone still being in Hades’s realm, and/or is his being left behind upsetting Persephone to the point that it is upsetting Demeter and causing eternal winter?
Esp if she knows she can’t have him be out with her
haughty carbon
Isn't there also currently a war on the surface in realm of mortals? I remember that being mentioned in some dialogues
fast idol
Yes and it's a severe one
low blade
Yeah worse than usual, which would make sense along with a super long winter and dwindling resources
Thinking it’s not nuclear and actually the future/present since there’s dialogue about if the mortals knew the rail existed
austere fox
@last horizon gotta say I have no clue why it's crashing
fast idol
It's also always night when you reach up there
last horizon
yeah its an outlier
low blade
Cos that... what happened to Helios etc
austere fox
just middle management
austere fox
I have no idea why it crashes
fickle yoke
lost 3 dd via t&m fight 0 heat
low blade
Or is it done intentionally by someone so Zag can be on the surface without being blinded
last horizon
well, once you complete the mod i doubt anyone would want infinite barge of deaths anyways
low blade
And thus could be related to whatever the olympians want him for
fickle yoke
austere fox
looking at the line that crashes the game, the data it fetches should be ok but somehow it becomes null
last horizon
did you try running on your game too>
austere fox
y it crashes with the same error
haughty carbon
Could the war, the winter and almost endless night mean there will be a new area where we face the war of mortals? I wonder if such will be the case and considering how much Zag is unsure of even killing the simple mortal life, such as satyrs and vermins, he feels quite differently killing mortals, negative even.
austere fox
because they have nothing to do with his issues
low blade
Ooh, I was wondering how ultimately you’d end up back in hades house once they add a new zone past that, the stress of killing mortals is interesting as it could mean he chooses to die
last horizon
game will probably find some way to loop you back to the house
low blade
I also really want to know why the olympians want him Cos they’re scheming for sure
last horizon
its a roguelike after all
low blade
Well duh
leaden canyon
rogue....lite*
low blade
Lol
last horizon
what;s the difference lol
leaden canyon
not a complete reset each time you die
low blade
Lite Cos you get things carried over and permanent boosts
last horizon
ah so unlike slay the spire you progress in small increments with each run
leaden canyon
well, yes
austere fox
leaden canyon
think of the mirror
last horizon
nyx surprised me when she laughed lol
fast idol
God same
low blade
Lots of roguelites get called roguelike so that’s not surprising re steam
last horizon
i dont even understand why
zag was just asking about meg's parents
it feels suspicious
But man, gods don't really care if they're siblings or what not huh.
low blade
Nnnnoope
last horizon
like, zag and meg while not being actually siblings were raised by one
raised as siblings
i mean xd
fast idol
Yeah that's greek mythology to you
leaden canyon
like... technically meg and her sisters came from a testicle thrown in the sea
unironically
last horizon
oh they came from chronos' testicle?
low blade
I mean ancient Egyptian royalty were thought to be divine and thus practiced incestual marriages, so yeah it was a thing in the classical world, like targaryens in GoT - they’re above our rules
lucid salmon
You're confusing your parentless ladies, that's Aphrodite
leaden canyon
aphrodite was also born that way
last horizon
wait aphrodite came from chronos' testicles, like literally?
leaden canyon
she was formed out of sea foam
fast idol
Aphrodite and Dionysus are quite the outliers on the Olymp huh
last horizon
and people say that comics are weird
last horizon
oh yeah i heard about that
low blade
And Zeus has a bunch of kids from times he boinked someone while he was an animal
Absolute madlad
icy sinew
um
last horizon
not like roman myths are any better
leaden canyon
gotta talk to Meg
icy sinew
i still cant buy his contract off the contractor
leaden canyon
afaik
last horizon
it'll appear
fast idol
It'll rotate in eventually
last horizon
did you talk with meg and hades about it?
fast idol
Just buy stuff from the contractor
last horizon
it doesnt appear until you ask them about sysiphus
icy sinew
yea
last horizon
yeah then u just need to buy stuff from the contractor till it rotates in
low blade
When in doubt
C H A N G E
D R A P E S
last horizon
what i was saying is that loki got pregnant because someone bonked him while he was a horse
low blade
Loki a freak like that
leaden canyon
leave him alone
fast idol
If everything in the store costs diamonds you just gotta swallow and save up again
low blade
Yeah you can buy anything from contractor to rotate something in otherwise wait after a run and check again
last horizon
diamond stuff from the contractor are good anyways
leaden canyon
not the 20 or so music sheets
last horizon
the songs dont rotate in unless you have bought all the diamond stuff iirc
low blade
I do love that Zag steals treasures from dad to continually rotate the drape colors and to add new equipment and provisions to the kitchen for beings that can’t or don’t need to eat
fast idol
Hades favorite songs
fast idol
Wait you can add new stuff into the kitchen?
low blade
Zag has rubbed off on me Cos I def unlock crap just to annoy hades
fast idol
I wonder if the kitchen becomes a pre run mechanic later
low blade
Me: buys spice rack
Hades: AND WHAT IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE
last horizon
you need a tier one from zeus/artemis and the cast specifically for the duo boon
low blade
Yeah I got an upgrade of the chefs station and spices for his rack
leaden canyon
Never appeared
fast idol
Guess I didn't hoard enough, I stopped playing relatively early in the update before the current one
low blade
Got it with some steam money from Christmas so it’s still fresh and I’m rotating between this and other games to keep it in play until it’s fully live
I typically don’t do early access or preorders on principle but it’s supergiant so waiting a bit was enough lol
austere fox
@last horizon I've put a note on the mod page to not have middle management enabled, but that's the best I can do atm
austere fox
y I've added scaling to tartarus mini boss encounters and doubled depth and difficulty scaling
thinking about adding a cap to hermes thanatos etc keepsakes
cuz they're crazy op in this mode
@last horizon when you got 100% dodge bonus, did it go over 100% or stayed at 100% ?
austere fox
alright
austere fox
I think a cap at 30% should be ok
last horizon
i mean if the scaling is hard enough i dont think its possible to go that high tbh
i was only getting the bonus from the miniboss encounters
because they didnt scale
austere fox
yeah but still, since it's endless it's still possible eventually
last horizon
but the normal ones were practically impossible cause the fight lasts too long even with the amount of dps i had
austere fox
it was that hard?
last horizon
nah because the timer is fixed and doesnt adjust to the amount of summons
just the kind of room
i had 60% forced overtime and was killing everything as they spawned
but the last waves doesnt even arrived after the feather timer is finished
austere fox
still, I'm baffled you're the only one who downloaded it
from what I gathered it seemed like a popular request
last horizon
tbf i dont think people browse hades nexus mod too much
because thats only like the 4th mod
and from only two modders
austere fox
thats why we need #hades-modding channel!
most people don't even know you can mod this game
lament flame
True
austere fox
@lament flame every time I see your name I read it as "The eye of Ctulhu"
last horizon
how is there an eye if you're UwUing
a modding channel would be cool
pony how did you do the weapon gets all aspects thing
austere fox
I've asked last saturday but I don't know if the suggestion has been reviewed and wether it's been rejected or not
last horizon
im trying to find where thats coded but im not very smort
last horizon
oh i found it :O
austere fox
good luck
subtle coral
I'm scared to look it up online in case of spoiling myself more, but what does it mean when there's a clock icon on the hearts?
austere fox
that you need to have a special interaction with this character and give them ambrosia
to progress your relationship
subtle coral
Thanks
last horizon
i dont think clock hearts are unlockable rn
you're confusing it with the locked ones like meg
austere fox
you mean the ones like hades?
last horizon
yeah
subtle coral
Ohhh
dusty notch
What do I do after I talk to Megaera about Sisyphus to free him?
lament flame
Wait for his free sentence appear in Contractor's list
dusty notch
So I just wait, right?
lament flame
If you had dialogue with all three characters about freeing Sisyphus (Hades, Meg and Sisyphus) than yes
dusty notch
ok thanks
dusty notch
Is this cuz u didnt give Bouldy nectar?
icy sinew
so i have to talk to hades and then to meg and start rotating stuff in the contractor?
i have rolled drapery 5 times
im still not getting him on contract
😔
dawn ore
Why can't I ever get a dio epic special ;-;
south nebula
how do i get more titan blood?
fervent acorn
beat hades, do runs with higher heat or use wretched broker @south nebula
south nebula
is it a good pace for a 15 run to reach the last boss i reached him yesterday and he abolished me ? ik that it depend on the person but wanted to know in general how my progress is compared to other
fervent acorn
idk. its just a game so take your time to beat the boss. Use upgrades to make things easier and consider using godmode if its too hard.
haughty carbon
really, don't worry, take your time, the game offers quite a lot of room for improvent and learning scale, the number of runs don't matter, but the amount of time you put learning the enemies and powers.
agile wadi
@south nebula ive gotten to him twice and im on like 25, we can do this :D
lament flame
@dusty notch nah, just because I had no option than chose Poseidon's attack. And still I haven't got Sea Storm duo :_(
dawn ore
32 heat. Barely entered Styx. Died on the second room.
lament flame
You are trying to unlock Skelly's last statue?
dawn ore
Yep
lament flame
I so afraid to do it just because of high heat. Good luck!
dawn ore
The biggest difficulty is the insanely fast mobs due to forced overtime
lament flame
Did you maxed out forced overtime?
dawn ore
Yeah
It's either that or the time limit
And time limit is literally the worst thing in the universe
lament flame
It's good but not at 32 heat
dawn ore
Only did it once for the fated list, never again.
lament flame
Same
dawn ore
Btw, how do you even get the dialogue with Dionysus to pull a prank on orpheus which leads him to sing the Hymn of Zagreus?
'cause like, I haven't gotten it and it's my 160 or so escape attempt
lament flame
Did you gave nectars to Dionysus or Orpheus?
lapis smelt
The more nectars you give Orpheus the sooner (and maybe more often) he starts to sing
lament flame
Huh
dawn ore
Like
Dio telling us to tell Orpheos that I (Zag) and Dio are actually the same person
Or something like that
lament flame
Guess you just need to wait. Maybe.
Or just have more conversations with Orpheus
I remember that I seen this dialogue after maxed out Dio
fast idol
It happened randomly for me just accepting a Dio boon
Zag felt a little guilty about it in the end lol
lament flame
And even if Zag try to explain yourself Orpheus still thinks that Zagreus just shy...
bleak osprey
@dawn ore Had you spoken to Eurydice a lot before unlocking Orpheus, just out of curiosity?
dawn ore
Could be, I can't rightly remember.
bleak osprey
Mm, sounds about right. This has been an issue with other users
dawn ore
I see
fast idol
its likely that the eurydice stuff overrides the Dio event
static adder
Zagreus’ mom is the friends we made along the way
fast idol
hmmmm
I wonder when she actually left
dawn ore
Achievement: Killing the Hydra on 32 heat without using death defiance
dawn ore
I just skipped from 16 heat to 32 'cause I'm masochistic like that
I also want that statue
fickle yoke
oh man
very little arena
and bubbles of fire always make them even less little
hydra in the center
and no hiding spots
uncut ibex
static adder
He’s taken by Bouldy, sorry
fickle yoke
What is ngl?
bleak osprey
"not gonna lie"
fast idol
It's bc we comfy here
lapis smelt
I’m slowly but surely working my way up higher and higher in the heat levels. Trying to figure out what modifiers work for me and what doesn’t. I’m probably going to just start with extreme measures, jury duty, and varying amounts of forced overtime
I’m confident I can get up to Styx and to the final boss but not so much about actually beating him.
dawn ore
Okay guys
Here's the situation
I'm at 32 heat, about to face Hades, no death defiances
300hp
What are my chances?
xd
static adder
Dang
sharp bobcat
What summon do you use @dawn ore ?
sharp bobcat
I'd say give skelly a try at high heat
You can use him to cheese the harder fights
Like extreme hydra
I use him on megagorgon, extreme hydra 3rd multihead phase (Put him on bridge where you spawn in at), styx minibosses, and/or healing treasure troves so all the enemies gather up in one spot and I don't take extra damage.
sharp bobcat
Yea it feels like they keep spawning enemies in waves so you never get a lot
and its always ranged enemies that run away
agile wadi
that hurt my last run badly
lost like net 30+ hp on one in elysium
hubris!
never again!
timber obsidian
It would be cool to see Helios as a god
He is technically not an Olympian but so is Poseidon and Ares spends most of his time on some Island hunting
Iris would be kinda funny
Not really well known goddess but the godess of the rainbow would be absolutely hilarious
gives you random boons or something funky like that
opaque hull
@timber obsidian you can post that in feedback
south nebula
i was close real close to beat ||hades second faze|| ... for the first time
primal atlas
it's tough
have they said if Hestia, Hephaestus, Apollo, Hera, are all going to be in?
primal atlas
but what about after that?
fickle yoke
all other may be mentioned as aspects
or not
or may be devs will change their plans
but 4 now iirc - there would be only that way
lucid salmon
I swear that by the end of Early Access there will be a feedback post about each minor god
upper vigil
yeah
supple dagger
Funny you should mention that. Will Than let me borrow his scythe and the cast being that black ring he summons. Lol
I'm joking. Don't do that
winter mist
Hey guys how do i dodge hades second form wave aoe thing? I had like 2 health when I finished the first phase and I was like, I DID IT, but nope. Super fast aoe got me (In the back of my mind i was kinda expecting it thou but I was not prepared for that).
atomic forge
Two bars on either side.
timber obsidian
yes
atomic forge
This is the spoilers room.
primal atlas
this room can have a little spoiler
supple dagger
Me: gives Chaos another nectar
Them: "are you tryna woo me are tryna be my friend? wait, no, don't answer. I wanna theorize for a while!"
Don't ask me why I found that cute. Their presence is a weird but interesting amalgamation of matter but that line of dialogue was adorable... somehow...?
rapid zinc
Chaos is the best
supple dagger
Yes, they are. Though, I'm really not taking legitimate risks when I get any boons from them. It's usually just attack bonuses or special bonuses with the restriction being something like "rewards are hidden" or "don't use cast/special for a few encounters." I think I've only chosen reduction of max health twice.
What did you do? "I defeated the Extreme Heat Hydra!" What did it take? "Two DDs"
fast idol
Chaos was one of the first characters I maxed hearts out with
pliant hinge
Did you do it?
"Yes"
What did it cost?
"Two DDs"
fast idol
I love their weird looming but carefree and whimsical personality
fast idol
I never anger her in God trials
I don't want to disappoint her
Everyone else can take it
agile wadi
big same
supple dagger
Hehehe
I think I've anger each at least once, out of curiosity. I think out of all of them, I'm not a fond of Athena or Ares being angered.
And that's based on how they change the battle during the trials
fast idol
I hate ares and Aphrodite when in terms of how they change the battle
rapid zinc
I cannot stand the battle against Athena or Poseidon
Most of the others I can live with fighting, though Artemis is hard for me to deal with since she actually aims
main dagger
How do you get "the first of skellys prizes"
Like the prophecy or whatever. How do you fulfill it
primal atlas
for me ares is one of the hardest displeasure but i dont mind Poseidon or Artemis
rapid zinc
Have you unlocked the Pact of Punishment, Treecko?
autumn valve
@main dagger I think you need to do a heat 8 clear first.
main gulch
Interact with the sheet and it'll tell you the requirements
naive remnant
So the soundtrack version of Good Riddance features both Ashley and Darren doing a duet together but that makes me want to ask - does that mean Zag and Euridyce eventually duet together?
main gulch
No that's Orpheus and Eurydice singing together
naive remnant
That makes a lot more sense
main gulch
I know it's Darren but he does the vocals for orpheus singing (his spoken voice his done by somebody else)
fast idol
We might get an opportunity to free Orpheus at some point and have the two sing together
low blade
I never want to upset Artemis but I always get her in a god trial with like... Athena, every time, and that’s the most annoying one to displease so ugh
vagrant nova
They're not upset, just disappointed
low blade
Oh I know but Artemis needs no additional disappointment in her life
fickle yoke
it's funny like ppl love to thing she is kinda pure innocence wonderful girl
low blade
She’s just a socially anxious loner who kills like a machine
supple dagger
I attempted the Tight Schedule punishment and am shocked that I actually managed to "speedrun" Temple of Styx
primal atlas
how many passages?
also omg i spent 3 runs trying to get Hunter Blades and wowza
they absolutely handed me that run
low blade
Getting that one boon that makes you faceroll is such a great feeling lol
icy sinew
..
sharp bobcat
I wish you could blacklist a god
icy sinew
sharp bobcat
Im so tired of getting ares every run >_>
icy sinew
changed drapery 7 times did 4 runs
i still dont see the damned contract.
i wanna cry
spring remnant
"Just then, the carefree-running prince runs headlong into a wall of stone, painted to look like the way out."
these little blurbs are the best reward for beating a run
gusty crag
Daily reminder that Artemis is the perfect goddess and deserves a route with zag
#ArtemisBestGirl
lapis smelt
Eventually we’re going to get a scene where everyone finds out that Zag was dating all of them at the same time, aren’t we. Just like Valentine’s Day in Persona
lapis smelt
It’s only Than and Meg so far though.
low blade
“What relationship options do we want to give them in this new game?”
Yes
lapis smelt
I’m all for it tbh
slim jewel
Okay seriously i have literally never had this boon from Chaos, and it's annoying. The death Defy +1 i have 40 runs under my belt and heat 9 completed. Why have i never seen this
graceful wharf
Wouldn't make sense if suddenly you have to choose 1 after meg and than
untold sable
Zag has two hands
low blade
Since when have Greek gods had to worry about monogamy
low blade
Well jealousy sure, but she’s the exception proving the rule kinda lol
primal atlas
oh crap did i just lose a whole run when my system crashed
i was in styx
reboot and reload and im in the house
nooooo it was going so well
light ivy
Try exiting steam and reopening a couple times maybe it will sync up then. It's worked for me before
I love that when you beat the game faster than before Hermes comments on it the next time you see him
minor oyster
So I was recently told that Dusa has a dialog about a drink if you give her Ambrosia, but I never got it and I can't give her any more, is this a bug? ;-;
The wiki is extremely barebones atm so I'm not sure if that's what is required to get the dialog or not
untold sable
dusa can't receive ambrosia yet
minor oyster
I did ;-;
I looked it up and there is a dialog, but I haven't watched any videos on it since I didn't want to spoil myself
I think I ran into a bug since I gave her the Nectar at the wrong time? Not sure
And she won't take any more
untold sable
im sorrz my dude ahha maybe it is a bug or the dialogue could pop up some random time in the house
the only Dusa specific thing I encountered was her and Nyx talking
quasi swan
Guess who gave Than some ambrosia? THIS GIRL
And I got the little... I think it’s a mouse? THAN, LET ME HUG YOU
light ivy
yessss
past ridge
24 hours in and I haven't met Thanatos yet. Any way to make him more likely to show up?
brazen pendant
nope
i believe the friendlier you are to him the more often it happens but other than that you just need to find him in elysium by random
past ridge
Let me swear robot 😠