#h1-story-discussion
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Nadia are you saying we have to keep climbing the heat with no buffs or can we use mirror buffs?
oh you cant romance gods
olympians i mean
atleast i dont think so
the ones i know of currently are than and meg
Oh nice, I just got the quest for sislys or whatever his name is. The bulder guy
you mean not yet
Yeah, I thought you could so when I first started this game I was maxing meg and Artemis with my potions
oh i mean the song, it's apparently from dionysus
oo
it feels so good to play in an actual chair and infront of a desk again
i am actually doing alot better i am currently at temple of styx with the bow for the first time
also on heat
which bow
basic zag bow
There's gotta be a better way to farm these gems than just troves. There has to be something I missed or one of the relic items from giving ambrosia has to boost collection
do you just like Zag bow or you haven't level up the other aspects, all of Zag aspects are pretty boring imo except the sword
now this is new
to be fair
i have only upgraded the sword and bow aspects thus far
since i have been avoiding other weapons because i sat on the floor before i got this desk
i see, did you beat Hades
on hades rn
well gl then
the lasers got me killed
one didnt show up because it was stuck on a pillar
so i got into one shot range
and then he did his dash spin
more than halfway done on second phase
imma weep
how many death defiance
i had 2 going into the fight
stupid mistake on phase 1 made me lose one
so its entirely my own fault i lost that one
yeah i mean Zag aspects alone are pretty tame compare to others
pff
you say that but 5 double backstab crits in a row deals alot of damage
i am a lucky person when it comes to rng
Zag aspect + hammer upgrade that makes you never have to reload = profit???
no i used the double shot
and weakening attack
only because the damage boost is good on it
Never reload is the only way to play that gun!
i wasnt using the gun
yeah i just find it funny how that upgrade render 2 of the aspects useless
Hestia aspect is pretty fun, reload and then boom, then you reload again
you only say that now but you will soon come to it
beside the 2nd aspect is even more silly, you shoot a rocket and then you have to stand on the blast radius to empower your shots
Funny thing, I got my 1st clear with the gun
Infinite + Explosive Ammo, Heroic Attack boon from Artemis, Support Arrows
i never take this much damage with any other weapon
And rare Attack Speed Hermes boon
i dont like how you cant move when reloiding
railgun is actually rising to be my most favorite weapon thanks to Hestia aspect
Infinite Ammo turns it into a whole different beast
oh shoosh you, one shot is enough
i got epic heartbreak attack
99% base increase of damage
lucky
okay i take back what i said
i learned how to use the gun
its pretty good
you can also go for a special build
i mean i have a poison rocket
have i mentioned that one shot deals 150 damage so it equals to an entire clip or more
still not worth it
fiiine go play with that boring Zag aspect
Did somebody say Hestia
it was i, Hestia aspect is the best
Good taste fellow hestia aspecter
ah i see you're a man of culture as well

but but but you just said Hestia aspect was boring
i think getting extra help is boring
Roundabout way of saying they like Hestia 
i chose the boring basic thing instead
because it means i need to rely more on myself and not a gimmick mechanic
i dont WANT to centre my gameplay around one shot reloads
i want to feel like IM the one being skillfull
and thats just my opinion
im not saying thats how it is
its just my own feelings on the subject
That's fair 
Do you avoid like the mirror and stuff too
Or is it just that aspects change it too much for you
no thats a "skill tree"
i just dont want the weapons to help me
if that makes sense
zagreus is vanilla
i just want to use boons and hammers to make myself stronger and use my own skill
thats stupid and arbitrary but suit yourself
Arbitrary but not stupid
it is just a way for me to...feel like im getting better
Not stupid to play the game the way you like
wich i am
i dont feel like i would improve as much if i had one shot that dealt as much as one mag
the bow has aspects which unupgraded are more sidegrades
and?
meaning you end up with equal power but different mechanics
so maybe give those a try
i like the crit bonus though
chiron reduces special, but gives them homing
yea
thats fair
sword has just straight upgrades
movement speed aint nothing
i dont feel the need to have a homing specials when i know the range of the bow special
Spear has straight upgrades too
you can still get clobbered with or without Hestia aspect, it's all depends on skill at the end
i like the swords speed because it makes me feel more mobile
its for different playstyles
Shield has different playstyle with Zeus shield
Chiron changes it to a ranged single target ability
youll hit one or two shots
i land 2-4 shots each special
with special, you hit them all on one foe
or you can just be good at the game?
Yeah if you play the bow like a shotgun and be close, chiron makes it more of a ranged play
It reduces the number of arrows you fire so it's not strictly better
this is what i mean, i want to rely on my skill not the game helping me
what
and ofc the game gives boons and the mirror and all that
a different playstyle doesnt equal extra help or an easy mode
normal bow requires you be in an enemies face to hit multipile shots
so you're saying homing arrows are NOT easier?
thats still homing
not allways
like everything you mean?
Chiron sucks if you want to apply doom to a room with Ares special
homing isnt a straight upgrade
wheter or not its a straight upgrade isnt opinion based
i dont know why you are all in a tissy about it
but its my opinion
not facts
calm down
what
No worries as long as you're having fun 
i am
wich i do
which
i just corrected you because you made that mistake more than thrice
i type fast
aight
alright*
thats an abbreviation
i know
dont need to be flexin' 3 smart 5 you
i speak two languages swedish and english i wont be perfect
calm down, i was just joking at first and Smug just voiced their opinion
the only thing i was upset at was you saying its better for everything
which just aint true
quite litterally did
you didnt say that
"works better for some, worse for others"
"like everything you mean"
then you missed when i explained that i was talking about my opinion
thats
fewer homing arrows hit with all of them most of the time no?
i know that
by saying "everything" i meant "everything you shoot"
they all hit yes
99% of the time
but you only have up to 7 at max upgrade
and special damage is
negligibile
its 10 by default
70 on one enemy with that kind of windup isnt good
sure, in the future though. if you dont know for sure what i mean dont assume
it makes an ass out of you and me
i was pretty confident, i was just wrong
can we just go back to calling my opinion stupid instead?
with certain weapons youre fully right
spear is definitley much more powerful with aspects
gun...eh
i dont like gun
Bow>Spear>Sword>Shield=Gun for me, just preference no power level considered
Gun is best weapon
Sword>Bow>Spear>Gun>Shield
gun< everything else
sword is honestly the most versatile in my opinion
at the very least, we can all agree hera aspect is garbage
its not garbage- i just dont use aspects outside of Zags aspects
Haven't had much luck with the spear
true true though i haven't find a way to utilize poseidon sword
woah you guys use specific gods only`?
I end up focusing on Artemis most of the runs
if you grab a gods trinket you can guarantee that one shows up first
also wrong Hera is probably the best one, with Aphrodite or Dio or Ares cast it's insane
The cast stack build works really good for Hera Bow too
thats fine
Now that's godspeed alright
i misspelled Hera into Hestia, i'm obsessed with gun now
+5 dash and Athena dash deflect = invincibility
tru
well i must say
i beat the hydra with the gun for the first time now
on..1 heat
and i think it was the first time ever
gun is in dire need of hammers
i still haven't get used to Hydra upgraded fight
I'm getting there slowly
Need to kill the small heads quickly to get safe places to stand
Part of why I like athena attack
To deflect the wave attacks
And the barrage the main one does
same, i just dash way too many times into the lava
got axed by the bull?
no
i lost one with theseus last attack
rip
anyways
i am at hades now max hp almost 300 and full 2 defiances left
wish me luck
good luck
https://prnt.sc/qdzrim
pact of punishment with 5🔥 is kicking my ass
N I C E
also, the bull looks like a saint seya with that armor on
i love it so much 😂
and!!! i did it!!!!!!! i unlocked mort
OH
i'm. CRYING.
i forgot to unlock a thing in the mirror
Good job
thanatos bringing that stuffed toy around is just PERFECT
😂 😂 😂
i gotta say, athena's boon for dashing saves me on a daily basis
same
How do you get the Keepsake from Skelly.... tried to beat him with the Sword but nothing happend
Did he ask you to kill him?
he needs to ask first? 
Don't you kinda have to give him nectar?
Or can you get a second keepsake out of him?
Yeah are you talking about his keepsake or his other thing.
about the keepsake... saw a reddit post, that you kill him with max sword -> give him abrosia and he gives it to you
how do i get him to ask for it?
If you are asking about the one unlocked with Ambrosia, you need to have him ask you specifically.
As for how, let me see if I can find out real quick.

Looks like you need to get him to at least 7 hearts with nectar.
ok thank you ^-^
And actually it does look like you need a max upgraded sword.
Not sure if it means the Zagreus aspect or if another one works.
Yep, it is the Zagreus aspect.
ok good, i have zagreus on max...
I'm just on the hunt for the Legendary keepsakes and skelly sounded like the easiest to get
the best aspect
Can confirm it's the zag aspect, got the keepsake this morning
Speaking of the keepsakes, there are 5 right now, right?
Hmm, so ||Sisyphus, Thanatos, Meg and Skelly||, right ?
From what I know, yes.
yeah 4, also nice pfp they should make it a skin for Cerberus
No way, he is the goodest boy already.
you get sisyphus by getting through his dialogue right? so no special actions other than talking to him or?
he is just a gooder boi because he blocking my way to freedom
no idea really the requirements aren't very clear
but maybe he just likes you so much, that he doesn't want you to leave...
don't think about freedom, think about leaving you dog alone
All the legendary keepsakes have a quest attached to them.
and he trades that love for a sack of vermin 😤
i am surprised
So Sisyphus it looks like you need 7 hearts for him again.
i have done a huge leap in skill it seems like
All the peeps need 7 hearts to start their quests 🙂
usually i would lose atleast one death defiance in heat mode
ok thanks @snow brook
before elysium
i really hate elysium enemies... I often find the normal enemies harder than the bosses
espacially the shield dudes
or the flaming wheels
not as annoying and also hilarious as Theseus monologuing
he is awesome 
He looks wack with that phantom of the opera mask
progress
you're just a god
im getting better quickly
okay so i have literally maximum possible health and life left...bout to kill dad
i did it
go kill dad
i usually get very greedy whenever i reach the final boss with full defiance then i lose all of them
marcoos is my new religion
i also need than please
@proper cairn Congrats on your crushing victory! Getting good feels good.
On an unrelated note, it looks like you're unaware that, when typing on Discord, you can use Shift+Enter(return) to skip lines in your comments without having to type and post them one at a time.
im not, i honestly just like typing like that
i wont do it if it is annoying though
Heh, as long as you're happy!
marcoos i need a blessing for more gem troves
you get nothing
but i want to buy alcohol for dad
i need more love from Dusa
alcohol fixes everything

@paper pawn thank you my child, you have my blessing for gem troves
Meanwhile i forgot i wasn't in the final level yet and i switched to skelly keepsake
well now he can be pummeled in your place
thank you skelly, your sacrifice will not be forgotten
Oh just his keepsake, i can't switch special trinket anymore so no smol skelly for now
aw, well i love how indignant hades is when you pop skelly up in his fight
something about a wretch 8D
Even Hades can't hold control of a spooky scary skeleton
Try to tone it back a little on the teasing 😄
Oh sorry
i ordered pizza my lads/lasses
Something funny just happened. Got Megaera as the Tartarus Fury but with Extreme Measures on so Alecto was also there. Except I had romanced Meg. So, she and Zag began talking about their relationship while Alecto stood silently to the side.
It was just hilarious to imagine Alecto awkwardly standing in the middle of them with this look on her face as they flirt with eachother.
I've gotten to Hades on every weapon for 1 heat but if I don't have shield he just wrecks me
i think thats part of the point Grey
I dont know. They just didnt acknowledge Alecto's presence at all. Or well Alecto didnt acknowledge the fact meg and Zag are dating. The conversation over-rode it.
Probably. I just found it funny.
i belive you
im on my way to romance her
i want a pizza date with like...Meg or something, maybe alecto
And leave out Tisi, sad flute hour
😱 but Tisi is such a great conversationalist how dare you guys leave her out
Exactly
im sorry
Tisi is also invited
i just figured that maybe she doesnt like people eating dead things
with the whole murderer thing
my hc makes tisi a vegetarian/vegan
She is most definitely a vegan
Have you seen her face, it's too late she already starved to death
I'm sure she will have such interesting tales
indeed
Has she told you the one about murder yet
Mmmmmmmmmmmmm ?
3 hearts left but than refuses to show
he is big sad
Guys anyone can spoil the convo between than and zag in zags room? ( after maxing out hearts) ❤️❤️
You can either round home plate or back off.
I'm trying to have Fully Loaded with Artemis but it doen't appear 
zap pls 🙏🏻🙏🏻
alright give me a sec ill private you

Mmmm... Murder... MURDERER
Murder?
Mmmrrrrrr
murr...?
Should I buy 500 darkness for 1 ambrosia?
i wouldn't, personally
Just unlocked pact of punishment
but it depends on what your mirror progress is like
and whether you'll need the ambrosia for gifting
how much do you need, isn't it only for the 4 big keepsakes
You need a lot of Ambrosia.
and romance
mhmm well it is also used to progress certain relationships yes
however there are multiple ways to get ambrosia.. if you need darkness
then get darkness
Who should I focus nectar on?
everyone
I've given 1 to everyone
good start
you just give gifts, sometimes the hearts are locked and then you need to do a thing like kill a boss during a pact of punishment and other such things
i think most give you the special secret thing after an ambrosia?
tbf i have only gotten Megs gift
the legendary keepsakes come from skelly, sisyphus, thanatos and megaera
cheers
sisyphus is a quest right?
just keep chatting them up and give them alcohol
when can you buy it?
Meg is such a narc tho
she is?
its not serious zag and meg are doing a facade
"contraband" means "im trying to hit on you"
with maybe one or two finger guns mixed in
i just need to run into than more
srsly they need to boost the than appearance rate
been 10+ runs before i run into him again
i met him like...2 or 3 times in a row
lelele
i dont like than though
he is very...not for me
Then don't romance him.
well i wont, that wasnt my point though
meanwhile the other time i ran into him i was using the bow and couldn't compete with him

you need 4 ambrosia for the legendary keepsakes and 1/2/3/4 ambrosia to upgrade them
so 44 ambrosia total
Can you equip a normal keepsake AND a legendary one?
meanwhile you need 180 titan blood to unlock all the weapon aspects
and you get 2 titan blood and 1 ambrosia a run
so trading ambrosia for titan blood and other things is acceptable, I think
yes
legendary keepsakes go in a different slot and do something else entirely
Ok so it's worth going for at least one
Any one of the 4 worth trying to get first? Feels like the skelly one is the worst
meg or than is easiest, but they're also the least useful because they don't work vs the final boss, and meg's obviously doesn't work vs meg
skelly is actually pretty good vs bosses
bouldy is the best summon
bouldy is free healing mid-fight
on top of some damage and other stuff but mostly it's free health
Holy schnikes I think this 32 Heat run is gonna happen. Entering Elysium with full health, 2 DDs, and Low Tolerance with Heroic Numb Sensation on Chaos Aspect.
I'm not gonna lie, Numbing Sensation (35%) and Sure Footing have been the real MVPs so far. Made it through the Hydra fight without losing a DD on max Heightened Security thanks to SF, and NS is keeping Exalted from running train on me.
Welp, I'm not beating this timer.
now do it blind
Is there any more special dialogue after going past 20 heat? Cause there's no more rewards past it
For 32.
Goddangit. Now I have to work my way up to 32 heat now
Thanks
There's no bounties after 20, you can just jump straight to it.
Hey that's right. Thanks. But I still might need to work my way up to 32. Gonna get destroyed if I jump from 20 to 32
is hades actually like the good guy in this
like
it sounds stupid but
when fighting him at the end he doesnt want you to leave but it seems like he knows something bad will happen if you do
i cant really remember the exact voice lines or anything
but yeah i dunno, i quite like him
i can give many guesses based on in game lore, and irl mythology
also, i forgot to say about chaos seems to try and tell you that the olympians arent to be trusted
the Olympians themselves tell you that too lol
the olympians while a family dont like eachother
Well the storyline is very suggestive of some weirdness in the otherwise expected greek mythos. Zagreus in Greek myth isn't actually Hades son, he's the son of Zeus and Persephone, who Hera had killed (because she obviously didn't like the idea of someone else's child as the prince of Olympus). So in this instance it's kind of suggested that Hades is acting as Zag's adoptive dad after Zag was killed and Hades and Persephone were married. Zag might not be able to leave the underworld because he's still "dead", though in the game the Titans have been chopped up already and Zagreus was 'pulled from the ashes of the defeated Titans and placed in the womb of Semele to be reborn'.
so maybe hades knows that if you leave hera will not be very happy
and never got actually banished
well hera has no right to complain
and also gods are not allowed to kill gods
also i find it a bit weird how the king has the god's help when trying to kill you when they are supposed to be on your side
Well not really, it's Hades job to make sure the dead stay in the underworld, so if Zag is still in that limbo where he's been killed by the titans, but not yet reborn as Semele's god-blooded child then it would make sense.
so IF Zagreus returned to olympus
oops
Hera would most likely be banished
yh but hera doesnt really care that much about killing people
she tried to kill heracles and stuff
Nadia, that's why hera had the Titans kill Zag
She didn't do anything, she just has someone else do the dirty work for her.
there ARE interpretations
yeh tbf, i assume that the game isnt completely in line with real mythology anyway
it is pretty faithfull actually
some ppl even confuse Zag with Dio
yeh i know it is heavily inspired and tries to be faithful, but its never gonna be 100% or anything
yeah, the mythology is a little muddled, since Zagreous is also another name for Dionysus in some documents and there's already a Dionysus in the game, meaning somehow Zag is a different god despite being conflated with Dionysus.
and theyre are gonna be leniencies
Supergiant always has some wild and fun twists in their stories, so I expect some curve balls in Hades too.
words
im really looking forward to seeing what does happen after you 'escape'
i assume they will update that eventually
I kinda half expected the gods to be waiuting there for you and to send you back cus I knew that you wouldnt actually escape, otherwise the game would be over kinda
but that wouldnt make mujch sense cus they would help you out again
just softer i guess
Zagreus is also the 'father of humanity' with his death and subsequent cremation resulting in the birth of the human race. Since human souls obviously exist in Hades that would suggest that this story definitely takes place AFTER Zag first dies, though whether or not he has been reborn yet is debtable.
I belive that Nyx quite literaly adopted Zag
making him into some sort of spirit/god/embodiment
also just a question, do you ever get to go into the big golden doors? ive only got one win
big doors?
mayhaps
nah i dont think theres anything in there
My money is that this game takes place in an AU where Zag never got 'reborn' and that's why he can never leave Hades. He's a dead god and as such is trapped in the underworld until who knows when.
AU?
alternate universe
ah but not dead people
no one dead has ever left, a very few living people have visited and later escaped alive.
ok gotcha
but IF Hades used his authority to make Zagreus his son
interestingly Orphius should be one of those people, but he seems to have died for reals in the game and is now stuck in hades
wouldnt zag technically gain part of the power of the underworld
i really like greek myth but cant really get into reading it or anything so i like stuff that tells it to you through other means
thusly get revived?
i think thats the purple stuff you collect
darkness yes
but i dont know about if it would revive him
Since gods with the authority of the underworld cant die...in the underworld
I mean, that entirely debatable Nadia, when it comes to Greek gods any sort of "what if" is possible. I mean Aphrodite was born from a god testicle falling into seafoam.
because Hades rules over them specifically
Alecto says something about how Zagreus bleeds red like a mortal, that might be a hint at something?
weirdly, when you kill hades at the end he dies the same way that zag does
I think the reference to Zag "bleeding like a mortal" is because he is literally the creator of humanity.
so obviously he would bleed our blood
and everyone does tbf actually
titan blood is also red. soooooo
alecto and tisiphone becomes bats/butterflies
theres that
the king does too but he is mortal actually
does he have that title? i thought he was just Prince of the Underworld
he does
not in the game but in real greek myth i think
yeah
ah okay
in Greek myth Zagreus creates humanity when his dead body is cremated by Zues.
mhmhm
so we're still at epileptic trees atm
wat?
out of the ashes of Zagreus and the defeated titans, Humanity arose; part god, part titan.
If i had to guess using my actual book of greek mythology
Zagreus IS alive, however he has lost part of his godliness
Hence the mirror and the darkness
does Hades give that long angry monologue at some point?
all of Hades monologues are long and angry.
because he gained some authority over Hades/Underworld
nah not all of them
for those who dont know the underworlds actual name is Hades just like the god
at the end hes kinda sad
well, the extra long and angry one
I don't know if actually has any more authority over Hades than any other demi-god.
where he's raging at everybody and everything in one breath
what?
That's why i get the feeling that the game is meant to reflect Zag's "trials" to prove himself worthy of being reborn in the mortal world.
however almost every Olympian God IS stronger than Hades because of his distance to the "greek fire" or olympian flame
ah
i just like to spout greek mythology
Like all the gameplay is meant to be reflective of Zag's "spirit" escaping the underworld so he can be reborn as Semele's son.
I'm not sure what naval weaponry has to do with the underworld
I dont think Hades is allowed to do tht
Well maybe not for mortals, but Zag IS a god, even if he's a dead god.
also Kaerf greek fire is just the world flame that gods protect
part of it prometheus gifted to humans
Greek mythology is all over the place. In some interpretations zagreus is dionysus. In other interpretations hes hades or the son of hades. Or hes the son of zeus
it just so happens to also be a weapon used by the greeks
So maybe the ultimate goal is to forge Zag through these trials to reclaim his godhood.
I think we can set aside the possibility that Zag and Dio are the same, since the game version has both Dio and Zag as different gods.
and Hades is not Zeus equal
no, Hades has self-control
what does self controll have to do with authority?
They are sort of equals tho
Still, it's important to remember that Greek Gods are also fond of forcing people to go through "trials and suffering" to prove their dedication to the gods.
In greek mytholgy zeus hades and Poseidon drew lots
they are brothers and Olympian rule has a "council"
what does self controll have to do with authority?
it's a reference to Hades' in-game lines smh
but Zeus IS the king
Hades got the short end of the stick and ended up with the underworld when his brothers got the skies and seas
I'm working with the game as a source first
So Zag's trials of fighting through the underworld might just be Hades and the olympians giving him some "tough love"
NO Moon
hades got to chose first actually
and he chose the underworld
Poseidon chose last
that seems more likely Orange
not here
Really? He doesn't seem too happy that he has to rule over the undeworld
Its the actual myth not in game
That's not true. They drew lots
just so you are aware
I'm pretty sure the game Hades is using the myth that Zeus, Pos, and Hades drew lots for their domains.
yeah
"Blast you, brother Zeus, and you as well, Poseidon, both of you, you mis'rable ungrateful wretches. You, and all your pig-faced children, and your concubines, all there with you, all gaily celebrating every waking moment there upon your mountain, while I alone, alone! remain at work, here, tending to the blasted remnants of those mortals whom you send to me in droves, in DROVES, without regard, without so much as reaching out to me from, time to time, to check upon your oft-forgotten brother? With whom you sealed those blasted Titans underneath this realm, so that you could consort without concern, as now you do?! That such a fate as this would have been wrought for me, by those three cursed hags, or by the two of you, I swear, I swear...! And do not get me started on that damned ungrateful little runt now tending to his hopeless undertaking at my own expense, brazen little bastard that he is. His mother would be oh so very proud, so very proud, no doubt, to see him violating my domain, my home, my rules! The boy, he's even got into the dog's damned heads with his damnable notions, certainly his mother's guiles, plainly on display. Those fools upon Olympus, all abetting his inglorious attempts to give up everything he has, to give up everything I ever gave him!"
Even if that's not always the case in Greek mythology.
It's all interpretations I suppose
Moon i have a mythology book
So many different versions
doesn't sound like he got any choice in this game.
I took multiple classes in greek mythology
Both on hs and college
It was an easy credit
well fair enough
regardless of what might have happened in other tales
Let's not get into a pissing contest
thats not what im trying to do
Yea
i just wanted to say that i read the story i told about in the book
Me neither we're just discussing
not that my knowledge is superior
Athena has taught that wisdom comes in accepting different perspectives
my spelling not withstanding
F
Dio would be proud lol
again i do actually belive in the olympians
so i hope so
even with my invertednes i toast and enjoy my time my own way
my switch is either broken or my charger is
ah damn unlucky
i want to enjoy a little FE3H
a friend of mine's daughter dropped theirs into a full bathtub and just left it and panicked for a few mins before pulling it out lol
the daughter is only like 4 or 5 or something
In some interpretations zagreus is hades. Guys what if there's a twist and zagreus was hades this whole time. Brought to you by m night shyamalan
NO
lol
impossible
back to the future 2: electric boogaloo
is time any different in olympus and the underworld than it is to like mortal world?
like, does it flow differently
don't think there's been any indication so far that it does. I feel the "it wasn't always like this" dialogue implies that time passes similarly, as do the bits about a big war and Thanatos/Ares being busier nowadays
nope
time is time
it doesnt change
however sleep didnt exist from the start
nor did bad dreams
chronos was kept "alive" to keep time...alive
sort of
should i play more Hades right now?
is that even a question? lol
is the gun the last weapon currently available?
yes
ah, theres anothner place for one so I thought maybe there was some special condition to unlock it
but maybe a later update
That special condition is "wait"
well, I dont know what I did to unlock the gun
I feel like i just played enough runs
pretty much
wait IRL lol
lol

I really goddamn hate those butterfly rooms on the third floor
with the shielded butterfly balls and the shield guys that constantly spawn
what do the jars that you get from the king and minotaur guy do?
cus ive got a few but i cant give them to anyone
yh ambrosia
I cant give it to anyone, do i have to keep giving them normal nectar or is it not implemented yet
normal nectar untill its Ambrosia you give
ok ty
in charon's well you can make sure a chaos gate spawns so does that mean charon has contact with chaos?
whats everyones weapons ranking?
Sword>Gun=Bow>Spear>Shield
Spear>All
Shield>gun>spear>bow>sword
Gun/shield/bow>sword/spear is as far as I'd risk ranking them
in terms of how much I enjoy them: spear>bow>everything else
in terms of what I am best with: gun>shield>everything else.
I enjoy the shield the most but am probably best with the spear or the bow
depends on the boons really
i hate that there is no clear indication when hades attacks
I think there is
or well i know there is its just the snow that makes it impossible to see
He has a little charge animation doesn't he
only for the spin
he blinks white/red for the attacks
i love the shield as well
not the regular swings
atleast not in phase 2
i just want a clearer indication amidst all the snow
Hestia isnt the fire godess
is she?
i thought it was like...harvest
hearth
ye
The only thing that annoys me about voice acting is the way that zag says "mate" lol
he over enunciates the "t" in it
to me, atleast
well its just a dialect
Yeah I know. It sounds like a British accent to me but that bit kinda gets on my nerves a bit lol
i wish he had more emotion other than...calm
I kinda like the tone and stuff, it makes it seem like hes got used to this and its all mundane to him
okay so
i wanted to check my skill increase
so i removed everything from the mirror
almost died to tisiphone but she dead
so im in asphodel
without anything special or upgraded just one cast and one dash and one death
ah no apparently im not good with the bow lol
got to hades but just did barely any damage
with 0 in the mirror?
ye
I hate the special on bow
how do you guys do that fight btw?
I always kill the minotaur first while just running around
ye
Im finding using A hell of a lot of crits and supporting fire from Artemis is helping me along nicely
depends on the build, but definitely lots of running around and ducking behind the pillars
MEG ROMANCE
YES
i cant belive i actually reacted with the same type of "Yes!" Zag did
what a coincidence
okay so you can wave dash in Hades
using a controller you can dash while not doing the animation
by simply having a spasm with a controller
But can you do attacks while sliding?
Wish there was some more unique dialogue after you romance meg
agreed
Isn't it just a dash attack I mean
which weapon did you test with
sword
can tell if it was a dash attack or not based mostly on if it was a swing or a thrust
(except for the third hit ofc)
that's how i always play the game 
loleh
day 100 of still not getting the thanatos event........my crops are dying
I shall bless you my child
The night shall bring you the fortune and favor you need young one
at this rate i'll still be waiting for the event by the time the next update rolls in
Worry not child, you shall meet death
erf I'm getting so close of beating hades
but he keeps spawning snipers on phase 1 it reduce my health so much
you really need to focus the minions he spawns
their armor is really tough
the hp not so much
yeah I know, I can handle the mobs but snipers are so awful for me
strongbows?
probably yeah, don't know their name
I call them snipers since they shoot from afar and put a target logo
enemy with bow from elysium
strongbow
longspear
lightsword?
i think
i think those are the names
oki doke
Sword dude is called Brightsword. So, you were close.
Should have waited till that person boosted first and be the one
i can just remove a boost
and then boost again : D
jk jk
i just want to somehow support
thank you for your contribution
Ahh...Feel good. Just finished my first complete run. Now to ||turn up the heat||
il vento d'oro makes everything better
Is that one of the options? What does it do
lol
that im listening to
Okay; should I listen to it on my next run? XD
Okay
do i need to have thanatos’s special keepsake equipped to be able to get the event with him?
im basically destroying my hands trying to get than’s event
i need to take a break from constant runs but im desperate to conclude his storyline
its starting to feel really bad. like im in a grindy unrewarding lootbox game
is there a list of all the conditions that have to be fulfilled besides forging the bond with him? i must be missing something because the rng can’t be this bad
No, he'll just appear.
he hasnt in 30 runs. i will probably start filing bug reports soon
The RNG can be crazy. It took me a similar amount of runs before Meg's 2nd group of hearts unlocked for me. Just keep trying.
are there any video recordings of the event that i can watch?
that way i can know without having to break myself getting there
IDK if the following is strictly gameplay or serous. I've believed in|| bouldy like four times, but this time I have this Ambiguity bonus +2% "you don't know if you believe in bouldy"||
is my relationship regressing?
Guys, could you please let me know if you get anything from lvling up weapons?
Like for example next lvl for my spear says kill 300 mobs, does it only unlocks more story or anything else
you get more story in the codex
that's it
the weapon improvements will be obvious and tell you in advance what they do
@jovial fossil I just received titan blood, what does it do? it says it unlocks other powers from my weapon?
once you have access to weapon aspects, you can spend titan blood to unlock and improve their effects
IIRC you get access to weapon aspects after unlocking all the available weapons
Yup
Don't worry about running out of titan blood, you can get a lot more later
Are the upgrades worth it? Im not currently focusing on unlocking weapons but if they are I will buy them
Yes the upgrades make a lot of them significantly stronger
For example at level 1 hestia makes your first shot do 50, and at level 5 it's 150
So yeah pretty significant
Oh you mean as opposed to base weapons
Yes the weapon aspects make them way better
All you have to do is unlock all the weapons then do one more run
And you'll be able to spend your titan blood on them
each aspect is basically a hammer upgrade you can start with
I'm not usually into single player games but I'm loving Hades, just something about it so addicting!
Thanks for your help guys x
I like this interaction once where I had equipped dionysus’s cup between tartarus and asphodel and the first boom I find in asphodel is actually hermes who apologises that dionysus couldn’t be there and that dio had never been known for punctuality
the devs think of everything trope
Yeah it's an absolute master piece!
if this game were the standard repetitive dungeon crawler without the depth of these interactions i doubt i’d be running it more than four or five times, good writing is so crucial, looking at you standard triple A games...
supergiant on a big budget is my god
Honestly only recently I started to play supergiant games and they are all mind blowing, from bastion to pyre I actually need to try transistor too
my #1 problem with the game is that it is addicting as Hell
I keep finding myself up past midnight saying "just one more run"
Oh yeah. I’ve clocked a ridiculous amount of hours in this game, and I got it 4 days ago
literally same, i think I've spent 75% of my waking hours on it this week


