I think its gonna be the storyteller
#h1-story-discussion
amber canyon
unreal bane
Nyx?
atomic shale
oh by the way
atomic shale
do we learn who hired skelly
past cape
yes
amber canyon
Im pretty sure we dont
past cape
it said in the journal, no?
hallow oasis
Homer, maybe Tiresias if we want to get wild
unreal bane
When are they gonna add romance options? Specifically for Skelly? (asking for a friend)
merry sorrel
I mean there are a lot of hearts to fill on the skelly page
atomic shale
ok real quick
past cape
Achilles hired skelly
atomic shale
atremis attck special or cast
past cape
special
frank glade
If Artemis isn't a romance option by release this is literally unplayable
ancient gulch
artemis special but it depends on the weapon
unreal bane
He might have a lot of hearts to fill, but I - I mean, my friend has a heart to fill, and that can only be filled by loving Skelly
atomic shale
i went special
ancient gulch
ah, I never play the fully ranged weapons
amber canyon
Im not sure if the storyteller is one of the known ones
ancient gulch
I play mainly spear and shield
merry sorrel
I always headcanon artemis as eitehr ace or les tho ;-;
ancient gulch
yeah artemis is super lesbian lmao
amber canyon
In the myth she is Ace except for exactly Orion
merry sorrel
let's have the option to be ride or die bros with artemis
ancient gulch
wanted to be her growing up xD
atomic shale
she's ace
ancient gulch
lmao yes!
atomic shale
it's in the canon
past cape
@atomic shale it`s pretty simple, Special with crits and marked from artemis.
amber canyon
No interest in any girls or any guys who arent Orion
past cape
you can build some damage on cast, but this is not obligatory
amber canyon
But yeah I dont think Artemis being a romance option makes sense
past cape
crits for 250? you need to pump this numbers
amber canyon
Meg on the other hand
past cape
brits for 450-500
atomic shale
i just got it
past cape
for every bomb
past cape
ah
yeah 😄
also, theseus become super easy without areus cheese
just throw bombs behind him, and he will take full damage
atomic shale
yea ik
amber canyon
... I finally realized what the new Pantheon in league reminded me off
He totally is just Theseus
past cape
meh
amber canyon
Both the frontal block, and the thrown spear that returns to his hand
atomic shale
idk in anycase he has some thunder thigs
past cape
theseus is love gods, while pantheon.... not so much
frank glade
With the knockback changes Poseidon is very worth
hollow blaze
i will take cast
frank glade
If you're ranged attack
atomic shale
cast it is
frank glade
Cast is also good
atomic shale
i misclicked dash
hollow blaze
lol
atomic shale
unlcuky
frank glade
F
amber canyon
Eh, I had a poseidon special boon
The knockback really does nothing on bosses
The lowered damage value however made Poseidon weaker
So I wouldnt pick his attack boon at least, his special boon seems to be fine though
hollow garden
Think it depends on the weapon
Really liking Poseidon on the bow and rail attack cause you can pummel a boss like Theseus into a wall repeatedly
Is it a 120 Heat strat? Maybe, if you go for Poseidon duo boons
atomic shale
wow i just did meg without taking any damage
stark tulip
nice!!!
grim oracle
MADE IT OUT ON THE FIRST TRY 
atomic shale
ok do i go for 5 dashes
grim oracle
ALSO GOOD GOD THAT WAS COOL
THE MISDIRECT WITH CERBERUS INTO THAT SNOWY BOSS ARENA WITH HADES STANDING THERE
guys i love supergiant so much
frank glade
I'm beyond impressed by everything Supergiant has made so far
mossy spear
also; i'm not sure if i'm relieved or dissapointed that i didn't get to fight Cerberus
grim oracle
I burst out laughing ngl
mossy spear
I was like "oh 💩 they're really gonna make us fight doggo?"
it was kinda funny but i also kinda wanted to fight cerberus LOL
atomic forge
how could you..
mossy spear
though going through the doors into the snowy landscape with Hade just standing there, waiting
was pretty cool
grim oracle
That was absolutely insane
mossy spear
gave me feels
grim oracle
Oralech vibes
frank glade
The bait and switch with Zag's badass lines and then him going all "good boy" was fantastic
mossy spear
they've changed some tracks too right?
i felt like the hydra fight music was more epic
frank glade
The theme for the fight is so, so good
polar coyote
i just beat it
grim oracle
If they did I didn't notice on my last run just now, will listen out for it next time
polar coyote
you cant do that to me supergiantgames
mossy spear
it's not in the patch notes but i felt like there was more of a beat to it in the background
more rock
or is it metal?
polar coyote
so guys
mossy spear
i don't know music
polar coyote
whos gonna beat in on 120 first lol
frank glade
Not me
grim oracle
I couldn't manage the last update on 120 
polar coyote
lol
polar coyote
see what worries me is that i used 3 death defiences on 30 lol
mossy spear
i had a pretty good Spear going
grim oracle
Think I burned 2? I managed to pick up a bunch along the run though so I had a lot left
mossy spear
vicious skewer armor skewer with bunch of zeus boons including legendary
polar coyote
they buffed the price of them a lot lol
polar coyote
all i did was went with the OP run
mossy spear
i just had almost no health
and 3 dd
yo, is it me or does he hit through the athena wrath??
mossy spear
like i had the athena wrath up but when he did a super attack stab with his spear
it removed it
inner slate
i am still figuring out hades' mechanics...
mossy spear
i feel like one of his stabs resets your wrath counter
grim oracle
I didn't actually figure out he was going invisible and that you hit him out of it until the last quarter of the fight
inner slate
so far best i've done is one-quarter left of 2nd stage
grim oracle
I thought it was just a phase transition thing
polar coyote
LOl
grim oracle
polar coyote
u can see him moving in the snow
inner slate
the helm of darkness traditionally grants invisibility
grim oracle
makes a lot of sense in hindsight 
inner slate
i cant figure out skull drops, homing skulls
polar coyote
i had shield so they did nothing
inner slate
and the biggest damaging moves he has/how to dodge.
mossy spear
i just kill em dunno what they do
polar coyote
if i block it they got removed
inner slate
ah i'm still bow
mossy spear
do you take more dmg when one of hades' casts hits you?
polar coyote
see shield is the way out for chickens
mossy spear
cuz the screen goes green lol
i really hate dealing with the minotaur still
and the parts of hades that are minotaur like
they force me to dodge more and i prefer to just stand there and wail on them with my damage
which is pretty dumb but y'know xD
onyx spoke
Hades' bloodstones cause you to take double damage if you have enough of them on you I think
They might apply other debuffs before that point, I'd have to test
mossy spear
i guess i don't like it cuz i need to wait before their melee combo is over before i can start nuking again
yo i want an artemis run with all artemis cast relatd boons, like 12 casts and hermes' epic full auto cast
and just annihalate everything
that seems like it could be fun
onyx spoke
gotta get the boon that automatically returns the casts to you as well
mossy spear
and faster drop obviously
grim oracle
honestly having the final boss be Hades himself really gives the entire story that greek epic/myth feel
mossy spear
i mean the game is called HADES after all
hot bluff
Question: am I the only one who felt like battling Rodents of Unusual Size from Princess Bride when reaching the last biome?
mossy spear
makes sense
grim oracle
@hot bluff Surely those don't exist 
mossy spear
do the satyrs yell "PARTY" btw?
frank glade
The big rats are absolute hell to fight
mossy spear
they yell something and i feel like it's party
frank glade
Bugger TO them
hot bluff
@frank glade I think the best is staying far away from them and their poison and killing them from a distance, although it's hard in small rooms.
I was utterly powerless at first and was poisoned all the time (a necessary time to understand what the hell was happening with poisons) but if you stay far away you can actually survive not that badly
They basically only attack you from a close range and put poison around themselves
simple sapphire
did anyone think it was cerberas that was the new boss,i never seen hades coming,but he was hard,but my build gone through him with zeus,the irony.But did any of yous see him having special dialoge option once you got back to the start but could not talk to him,unlike everyone else.
atomic shale
wait
i was
destroying hades phase 23
then his beam attack
went through a rock
that's so unfair..
that's so unlcuky
atomic shale
nah i probably was a pixel not behidn the rock
still feels really bad tho
since i couldn't actually see the beam$
that killed me
in so sad
uncut sail
had a pretty intense 75 heat run but I finally got him
normal talon
i had to go back to 0 heat because i needed to see the end and you know what
i almost started crying
brittle cave
so how many phases does Hades have? I wasn't expecting the HP fill up and took a bit of a beating once it happened
normal talon
only two phases
halcyon fable
just finished
i loved hades going "nah-nah no you didn't" in his dadly way at the end when you go back to greet the dude
also was anyone else getting big full health restores for some reason? thought i was dying repeatedly from his big meaty blows and popping death defiances like nobody's business but some of them weren't deaths, weirdly
sharp heron
i think the next biome will be Zag going through the Human world but now he has to fight Romans/greeks or whatever to get to his mother
or it will jsut go to his mum
but because of the easter eggs dialogs implying there is a war going on i think that might be the last biome kinda thing maybe
and then there might be another god fight because of the gods finding out that zag was leaving the underworld because of his mom an not to see his Olympian fam lol
pale carbon
There's gonna be another biome? Thought that was the last one
halcyon fable
if we don't throw down with the olympians in a pseudo boss rush i'm rioting
pale carbon
Just finished, first try! Also I forgot to turn off the 25 heat I had before 😓 It would've been a lot harder if I didn't have shield
wanton osprey
Its the last one until the launch of 1.0 at least.
They might do more post release, but they said in the stream today that this was kinda the end of the main story and they just didn't want to put it out until 1.0 launched
pale carbon
I started off with doom attack which didn't work very well with shield, but then with fast bull rush, Aphrodite duo, and dire misfortune, it actually worked quite well with bosses.
south jolt
I wonder if theres any chance we will see any of the gods in person in the next act of the game since the next act will take place entirely on the surface
stark tulip
Personally I doubt it, god's whole thing is being super detached usually
but who knows!
plus we don't even know if there's gonna be another act, per se
versed canopy
Just finished, looks like a nice setup thematically to conclude the story. Pretty standard final boss vibes like the end to a dark souls game
Looks like 120 heat runs are still going to be a horrible grind though, at least the main game feels pretty satisfying and fleshed out now
lyric zinc
btw why is it 120 heat specifically ppl are aiming for
visual laurel
There are three difficulty "rewards" that can be earned by completing the game with 15, 60, and 120 heat turned on respectively
lyric zinc
oo ok for some reason i remember it being 90 instead of 120
stark tulip
the sound effects for the rats in styx remind me of stranger things
versed canopy
120 heat isn't that bad with artemis cluster bomb strat but hitting the bull is super difficult
hollow garden
120 Heat was already very challenging when Styx didn't exist.
Its gonna be kinda near impossible now lol.
I think the only way you're winning 120 heat now is if you're a literal god among men or if you get one of "the broken builds"
lyric pine
GOD DAMMIT HADES
so uh
am i imagining things or does that slow ass wave seem to stunlock you despite the natural anti-stunlock thing trying to prevent it?
wise lantern
I do hope there's one more act in Olympus or something. Four acts feels too small and it's too fun lol
lyric pine
this time ive gotten to the last biome with 5 death defiances and 300 health, this time ill be more prepared for spanking time
make that 6 death defiances
nope 7
lyric pine
only ended up needing one of them surprisingly
Does Hades say anything to you when you talk to him? Than was talking to hades once I got back to the house, and when i did a suicide run he said to go to your room. Don't know if that was normal hades talk or angry for being beaten only for you to trip on a rock and die or something hades talk.
frosty fable
I beat Meg for the first time! .... with 1 HP left and no death defies.
lyric pine
eyy
grats
the next biome is an interesting one
have fun with the gorgons
they arent as cute as Dusa
frosty fable
screaming in castlevania
(actually should i be in the #gameplay channel, meg's early enough that i waffled a bit on whether to go to spoilers or not)
rapid zinc
Gameplay spoilers (such as which bosses you fight) are allowed in here
(Whoops, I thought we were in gameplay already) It's fine to carry on the conversation here if you don't want to disrupt the one in gameplay right now
frosty fable
Oof, bombers on the boat killed me (doesn't help that my laptop came unplugged so I was suddenly dealing with major lag.) I'm taking a break for tonight anyway
atomic forge
Hades just gave me some lip for killing him last. Zag is definitely his father's son.
worthy garnet
oh damn i didnt expect hades to have 2 hp bars
got rekt after halving the 2nd one
big uff
i highkey wanna know how it all continues but i aint got no time to go for another run.
Has anyone recorded the fight on youtube yet?
atomic forge
A few people. There's some videos people have posted in Discord of the fight.
worthy garnet
ah cool, looking through one right now
hollow stump
Anyone else notice that it seems to be winter on the surface? In the legend of Persephone, it is said that she returns to the surface every year, and turns winter into spring and summer. Fall and winter occur when she is within the underworld...
dense fox
Just popping in to say that
1: I am glad you can pet the dog now.
2: I am glad you don't need to fight the dog
Speaking of which, I want to suggest in the feedback thread a optional boss fight vs Cerberus in some form. But not really sure how that'd go over, and can't post there anyway right now
atomic forge
Dude if I had to fight best doggo
Also
Me sad
I beat Hades
And now I gatta wait for another update
dense fox
I said optional guys. As in you don't NEED to DX Like Zag ghoes up to him and be like "hey, I heard you rip people up good, and i want to see if i'm any good, mind if we fight?" and it becomes a optional superboss you cah CHOOSE to fight. Also doggo is fine after
atomic forge
I actually might be okay with a play fight.
dense fox
Yeah pretty much. Like it's a optional superboss and we don't kill the dog when we win. We just fight him and when we beat him he just's like "ok, you won, you can pass"
rapid zinc
An optional Fight Cerberus might be cool, but if it does get implemented I want SGG to keep the psyche out where Zag squares up to fight and then goes "Gods, could you imagine" and just gets him something to chew on instead
atomic forge
Btw
When are those doors gonna open up?
Been curious about them ever since I started playing when the chaos update dropped
I thought they were boss rushes that you can do
rapid zinc
No word yet as to what they are or when they'll open
dense fox
I want to point out for anyone that i'm not at any point saying we kill or harm the doggo. It's more a case of this:
Zag: Hey i want to see how tough i got, and dad will probably be less mad at you if you actualy fight me, so how about we fight?"
Cerb: Ok
(fight happens, either cerb wins and sends you back (zag does not hate the dog for it) or you win and cerb stops and you go "did i do good" and doogo be "yep you can pass"
limber sage
I think people get what you're trying to say. It's gonna be okay, lol.
atomic forge
You are fighting a clone of doggo
rapid zinc
Oh I completely understand, but the psycheout is too good for me to let go
limber sage
What I said earlier was just me memeing. My actual opinion is that I don't care much either way.
atomic forge
Tbh for a last boss Hades was fairly easy
dense fox
It's a moot point right now since i can't seem to post in feedback anyway. i don't know if there's like a time lock
limber sage
Have you posted in there before?
dense fox
I did, but i left the server a while back due to having too many
servers i mean, not feedback
limber sage
Did you add the EA rank back when you rejoined?
dense fox
I did not. Mainly because I ... kinda don't have EA. I'm waiting for PS4 release
limber sage
You have to have that rank to post in there. It's in the pinned message.
atomic forge
Yo can we get Elon sponsor these "Underworld Renovations"?
dense fox
Ok but am i allowed to have EA when i don't actualy have the game untill full release
limber sage
I don't think there's any official rule barring you from that? At least, not from what I can see.
dense fox
Fair enough, just got recall how to get roles
limber sage
Like I said, it's in the pinned message in that channel. XD
atomic forge
Seeming as I have nothing else to do, I'll just proceed to play some other game for 60 days
Didn't expect it to be only one run but k
limber sage
I wish Discord would make the pinned message feature better somehow.
atomic forge
Ehh
limber sage
A lot of people just don't see or think about them.
atomic forge
Well if it was in your face it would be kinda annoying
limber sage
And I don't only mean in this server. It's just something I've noticed in general.
atomic forge
Maybe if you are to go to a certain channel and it flashes on the screen the pinned msg
limber sage
I mean, if it contains rules and/or instructions, I'd argue that it should be in your face and annoying.
atomic forge
Or have like a prompt "hey, there's a pinned msg on this channel"
limber sage
But I'm speaking from the perspective of a guild leader who needs to chase a few of my members down just to get them to see my announcements and reference materials.
atomic forge
"better go look at it"
limber sage
It's a huge hassle for me and it drives me insane.
They claim it's because they don't get notifications for some reason... but I think they just have the attention span of newts.
=_=;
Anyway, back to actual spoiler talk and such.
raven quarry
hey whats the green thing that hades does to you actually do?
limber sage
I was honestly surprised that Hades fought Zag himself at all. I don't know why, but I just assumed he wouldn't.
raven quarry
i try to read it but it flashes by to fast
silver spade
lunar kiln
Zag: (makes it to the surface yet again)
Hades: blood and darkness, there goes another 50,000 obol cape
dense fox
Nah man, everything is as it was so he gets to keep the cape
amber canyon
I do love how he wears the cape purely for dramatic effect
Like he acts all high and mighty, but deep down he is just another theater nerd
dense fox
In Lord Hades mind:
Hades: (Intimidatingly drops the cape)
Zag: Damm that is such a power play move OK I will stop trying to escape forever now
What actually happens:
Hades: (Intimidatingly drops the cape)
Zag: How long did it take for you to practice that?
restive elk
ehm guys?
It's winter out there
and He was waiting for a while there
He's just a bit cold
lyric pine
This the god of the underworld we are talking about
Dude's abs are probably hotter than speedwagons
amber canyon
Look, Zag doesnt get bothered by the cold
lyric pine
The cold likely does not bother him
lyric pine
I mean, Hades is one of the Big Three
If a little snow would affect him, it would make the gods seem kinda weak
dense fox
So what you are saying is the cold never bothered him anyway?
amber canyon
Plus my headcanon that he is just a big ol' theater nerd is considerably cooler so
lyric pine
delet that and then delet yourself Kyle
dense fox
(:
lyric pine
now all i can hear is cartman singing a certain song about Kyles mom
I would say the title, but that would probably draw the ire of the mods
dense fox
I know the one, but leave my mother out of this, i need to go on a epic quest to escape the underworld to find her first DX
runic terrace
hades fights with the cloak, trips, instant ko
lyric pine
she left hell because she couldn't stand the sick burns from cartman
dense fox
There should be a 0.1% chance of that happening. Hades just trips over the cloak, you get a instant win, next house trip hades just goes "We never speak of this"
lyric pine
Zag proceeds to tell literally everyone
Every time he comes across a boss while trying to escape he mentions it and slips past while they have an existencial crisis over how the god of the underworld tripped over his cloak
His helmet permanently featuring a massive dent right in the forehead
dense fox
Nah, that just works for the next run only
lyric pine
He had his helmet sent in on an express repair job so he doesnt even have a helmet the next time you face him XD
amber canyon
Almost makes me want to see Hades meet Edna
late nacelle
Hades taking off his robe gives me WWE vibes and it scares me
lunar kiln
hades is the heel
stark tulip
Bfghbhj yes
amber canyon
Now I wish Hades had Recoomes voice from DBZA
hollow apex
I got to Hades' second phase on my first try... I'm honestly glad I didn't beat him yet
(and I secretly hope there's a third phase)
lunar kiln
you'll see
candid bear
There should be 9 phases representing the 9 layers of goodboi
stark tulip
You actually can’t beat him, he just keeps going to the next phase until eventually you’re fighting in space
candid bear
I want chaos to be the secret true boss that all rougelikes have
It’s like super chill about the fight as well, like “oh I like this, yes this will be interesting”
Many even have a mechanic where he damages you for taking certain actions
dense fox
I just suggested a ooptional boss fight against good dogoo
amber canyon
I think power-wise thats a bit of an issue
Chaos could squash Zag with ease
Even Nyx would probably be too much for Zag to handle
Alternative superboss suggestion: Charon
dense fox
We get a lot of talk about how cerberus messes up anyone who tries to get though and i wanna see that in action. But we don't hurt the goodboi of course
Charon could work too
And if you beat him you get his stuff for free that run from then on
stark tulip
Charon but he works like shopkeeper from spelunky so you have to carefully avoid touching him or he pulls out the shotgun
frozen jolt
Out of curiosity, how would you beat the hypothetical cerberus boss without hurting him?
Yes, without killing is obvious, but no hurting? That’s somewhat a requirement to get the HP bar down in the way that every single enemy in the game has worked so far.
stark tulip
I assume they just meant see him attack and not fight cerb
calm geyser
You have to sneak in pats whenever one of the heads is distracted.
frozen jolt
Kylestien submitted a feedback suggesting an optional boss fight against cerberus, so I don’t see how that involves not fighting him at all, unless he’s there as a run kill button. lol
dense fox
I mean i was thinking you fight him but cerb just kinda shrugs it off. it's like a gnat tring to hit a tank
frozen jolt
But if he just shrugs all of it off, how do you win?
dense fox
well you still do hp damage, you just aren't hurting him
frozen jolt
And it’s still hurting the dog :( I wouldn’t want that to be an option at all
that makes absolutely no sense to me, I’m sorry haha
frozen jolt
cooking for cerberus minigame
runic terrace
YES
calm geyser
Omg yes.
runic terrace
but its all nastey stuff
frozen jolt
silt porridge
dense fox
Ok the best way to explain it is like this: Zag is going all out, buy Cerb is so used to people trying to escape it's like another day at the office. he does not feel whatever you throw at him. There IS a hp bar to whittle, but that's mainly for gameplay purposes rather then doogo hurting. At the end, whenyou "win" cerb just like pins you, licks you as if to say "i went easy" and wonders off
stark tulip
COOKING FOR CERBERUS...
runic terrace
i dont think zag has registered that Oh Thats Person Bones yet
oh no im feeding dog PERSON
amber canyon
I have a simple suggestion
dense fox
TLDR: it's like playfighting, except the "play" is real and the reason it's play is becayuse the doggo could end you easy
dense fox
that can work too
calm geyser
So it'd be more of a stamina bar than HP?
dense fox
Pretty much. wear him out rather then kill
dense fox
It'd work like a hp bar in practise, but in cerb's case it's a "exhaust him out" bar
stark tulip
personally I think it’s better character wise we don’t have the option to fight him at all
dense fox
my thinking was "on zag's end, it's a literal test of skill against a deadly foe. On cerb's end, he's toying with him till hge gets tired"
dense fox
Or alternativly, they could "throw" the fight. like they both decide to "fight" so cerb can impress hades. but neither of them are really trying to kill. Well, cerb is trying to kill, but zag isn't
like it's a token "try to stop zag" thing except neither are really trying to hurt the other
there's a bunch of ways you cpuld explain a zag vs cerb fight without doggo hurting tbh
uncut sail
As I see it, cerb would never fight you
He cries like a puppy knowing you are going to leave
dense fox
I mean it's not he'd WANT to. But you gonna argue when hades says "fight him or no doggo treats for 10000 years?"
that's 10000 years of no treats!
And dogs have dog years so it's be 70000
frozen jolt
zag would sneak him treats :<
runic terrace
zag is already sneaking him treats
frozen jolt
but also hades would not do that he cares more about the dog than he does about zag unfortunately
uncut sail
Would have loved if he helped you against hades
frozen jolt
Now THAT I could get behind
uncut sail
During the second phase
frozen jolt
as long as it’s like a Call and hades can’t do anything to him
dense fox
get max friend rank with cerb and he helps out vs Hades
uncut sail
Hades clearly likes the dog
stark tulip
weapon 6- dog whistle
uncut sail
Also he clearly still misses Persephone
calm geyser
Dog whistle? So Zag taking Cerberus out for a very enthusiastic walk while trying to escape?
stark tulip
Boys got chores
uncut sail
I'm expecting Persephone to be the bad one
And hades was just preventing you from metting her because she is a douchebag
valid parcel
Persephone is out of the underworld and it's somehow still winter on the surface, so something's definitely up with her
dense fox
My main thinking for such a fight was like Zag going "I want to test mah skills and you are like the best guard here, can we fight? I won't hurt you most likely, you got hide like a tank" And cerb is like "I mean, if you WANT me to that's fine i guess. your best bet is to tire me out rather then go for the pain though."
Also i like dog whistle item
stark tulip
my bet is Persephone is dead
onyx spoke
dog whistle weapon
attack: hound rush
dog charges forward in a straight line, dealing damage to the first enemy and applying a bleed effect before returning to zagreus
attack (hold): chase
dog moves faster and chases an enemy for a few seconds
special: howl
dog howls, knocking back enemies and dealing damage in an area around the dog
stark tulip
With the winter thing going on because she’s not around anymore
uncut sail
Then she would be with zag lol
runic terrace
ohhhhhhhhhh ali...good theory
uncut sail
They can't actually die
runic terrace
HMM
lost gorge
@hollow stump interesting point about Persephone, perhaps we’ll finally get some closure in the next update
dense fox
I love how the lines from the narrator after beating hades is like "Zag beat up his dad and sought his destiny, but we don't really have that ready so just assume Hades beat the everloving (word) out of him."
dense fox
I'd not seen all the ending lines sadly
the interesting thing is it implies that hades is not the final boss
stark tulip
Not necessarily, it may just imply more story content rather than game content
dense fox
I mean it could be a cutscene to be sure, but why a room to enter then and not just go from the convo to the scene
stark tulip
maybe the cutscene takes place elsewhere on the surface? In any case you’re not wrong, it possible
I just remember them saying 4 biomes
wise lantern
Honestly I’m surprised that we haven’t fought any titans yet? Maybe they’ll be alternate bosses for one of the biomes or something.
dense fox
Also of note: victory and the narrator death has it say "Is there no escape?" rather then "There is no escape"
bright void
I highly doubt there will be titans. It doesn't make sense narratively
This whole game has been about hades, and your other "olympian" family.
cosmic crescent
Titans have been mentioned repeadedly though
The history of the elder gods killing them. their remains being spread in the underworld.-
bright void
Right, so if their remains are in the underworld, why would we fight them? Aren't they all dead at this point?
cosmic crescent
In the last run or so, Hades said that their remains are spread in the underworld to keep them from regenerating.
Not sure if that is going to become a topic of larger interest, but it has been a topic.
dense fox
Could be like a optional bossfight later on, like you gather then remains and summon them for a boss fight/bossrush
Seems like kinda a jerk move mind
Zag: Not only will i escape i will revive the god's enemies
Zag: seems a smart move i can take em
icy vale
wise lantern
If things get bad enough I could see a time where Hades would revive them in order to stop you. Especially if you’ve beaten Hades himself
Like a last ditch effort or something.
dense fox
I mean hades is a jerk but he's not crazy, he ain't gonna revive the god's worst enemies just to teach his idiot son a lesson
merry sorrel
Didn’t that literature mention that zag was torn apart from titans when he was leaving hades
And this game is partially based on that story
*torn apart by titans
wise lantern
Also waiting for a Hercules appearance 😃
merry sorrel
Diodorus Siculus, Library of History 5. 75. 4 :
"This god [Zagreus] was born in Krete (Crete), men say, of Zeus and Persephone, and Orpheus has handed down the tradition in the initiatory rites that he was torn in pieces by the Titanes (Titans). And the fact is that there have been several who bore the name Dionysos."
ivory spire
And it is done.
The game structure is complete, but ongoing underworld renovations continue.
merry sorrel
We still might need to fight the titans
And the whole mother thing, and the possibility that hades is not zag’s biological father might go into the game?
wise lantern
We still don’t know why she left so maybe that has something to do with it.
The gods are fickle beings so I feel like there’s still a shoe left to drop from Olympus.
merry sorrel
We definitely need the mother storyline to have some sort of ending
wise lantern
We still don’t know who sent the training dummy either if I remember correctly. Maybe it was her.
dense fox
Honestly? I just want to know what those 2 rooms in the house are for. It's been 8 months and they still locked
wise lantern
I was just thinking about those. One is Hades’ bedroom and we got a single flashback scene in those but otherwise nothing.
merry sorrel
Those I suspect to be bonus modes like the backdoor
Or worse case, Persephone was hidden in them all along
lunar kiln
persephone was bitten by a rat as she was leaving the underworld and died somewhere in the temple of styx
you can see her body on a flight of stairs in some chambers
stark tulip
Persephone got out by some miracle but unfortunately exited right into Florida where she immediately died
coarse olive
Persephone missed Cerberus and decided to U-turn at the gates, and in reality she's hiding behind Hades' chair at all times
Not even he knows
atomic forge
playin solitaire with eurydice
late nacelle
Maybe she's been in the main rooms with everyone else all this time, she just puts on the cap of invisibility when zags there
Its just a prank bro
atomic forge
So is there anything else for this patch besides the new "biome" and the boss fight?
Any relevant story elements unfold?
dense fox
you can pet the dog
late nacelle
^^^^^
late nacelle
its kinda a shame you don't unlock any ambrosia for Hades after beating him
I wonder if thats forever gonna be locked
atomic forge
They said they are planning to completely redo the gifting system
And the collectabels system
late nacelle
Oooh, does that include keepsakes?
atomic forge
I think it does not
skeleton keys and ambrosia
At this point I am in it for the story and nothing else. I had fun witht he game but I see no point in playing anymore.
Last boss was so hard for me.
I think I needed 3 or 4 times to beat him at 0 heat.
thin silo
Hear me out: Nyx is Persephone in disguise
vestal lintel
Man dude, hades should have kept his cape on till the second phase
would have been cooler
cosmic crescent
Would have given me Asgore Vibes
lunar kiln
hades but one of his pre-battle convos is just sans' "it's a beautiful day outside" quote
onyx spoke
I need to edit this
lunar kiln
i was thinking of doing it like i found the right font and everything and then i just didn't
onyx spoke
if text can be edited like in pyre, it might be possible to just replace his dialogue with it
cunning needle
i love this one bit of dialogue from thanatos after coming back from beating hades for the first time
"you are in so much trouble"
stark tulip
bbhcjhv it’s like.... yeah dude
visual laurel
is that hades-specific? i thought it was just one of than's normal lines
it's funny it lined up like that tho
runic terrace
"hades is going to ki-"
"going to what, than?"
"well okay guess you can just do whatever now!!! >:0"
cunning needle
it didnt have an exclamation bubble over him so it was probably just a normal than line. still hilarious that it played at that moment
visual laurel
yeah gkdfjghfd
cunning needle
i’m not over hades just pretending that nothing happened. soooo petty
runic terrace
oooomg he would
bleak osprey
i'm so mad that the first time i encounter him, he decides to not be there when i get back >:C
don't run away from me after you kill me! that's just rude hades!!
frank glade
Supergiant releasing a song that isn't the Hades boss theme
frank glade
I have no idea what that is
bleak osprey
the supergiant blast is sgg's newsletter! it goes out about once a month and has cool info in it
frank glade
Oh
Rip me then, how long is the delay generally?
bleak osprey
it's also where you can find links to the music tracks on youtube before they're made public
onyx spoke
"pretend for now that Lord Hades absolutely clobbered him"
these victory deaths get better and better
bleak osprey
i made a really dumb thing
normal talon
oh?
frank glade
The narrator is an absolute savage
normal talon
"in the name of someone very sore right now" really got me
bleak osprey
i'm gonna go put it in fanworks
frank glade
The conversation when you meet Cerb for the first time is hilarious too
I've never been more pleased with a bamboozle
bleak osprey
"(Not Really)" made me cackle
normal talon
at first i was like "aw no ohhhh nooooo nooooooooooo" and then the narrator was like jk just give him a treat
frank glade
Zag's tone shift is what sells it
onyx spoke
my recent hades fight had some interesting dialogue
hades seems to be really insistent that persephone is gone for good, and that doesn't seem like the sort of thing he would lie about
stark tulip
underplaying the update marketing too haha
dense fox
I'd love it if one one attempt hades and zag just like had a civil conversation about the weather:
Hades: You know, actualy today's not so bad outside. Wind's not too insane, and i suppose it's nice to see the sun.
Zag: You know, if you wanted a break for a couple of days we could do a father son camping trip before i go looking for mother.
Hades: Sadly I have to put my job first. And part of that job includes making sure noone escapes the underworld.
Zag: Well, it was worth a shot
lunar kiln
there's actually one convo where ||zag notices it's always night time and snowing whenever he makes it to the surface||
stray egret
I wonder if Demeter is mourning or if she has something to do with Persephone being gone
stark tulip
I wonder if that has anything to do with ||apollo not being in the game||
onyx spoke
no I believe ||hades says that it's because of persephone being gone||
bleak osprey
he doesn't
onyx spoke
I stand corrected, it was one of the first convos I got so I've forgotten
bleak osprey
It hasn't always. But, that's of no consequence to us. Especially when there's a raging battle to be fought.
stray egret
Well ||||Myth states that Persephone has to go to the underworld due to a deal with Demeter and that is what causes winter, however if she is not in Hades, then where is she to cause Demeter to miss her?
bleak osprey
it hasn't always, as in "it hasn't always been snowing", because in the line before zag's like "huh i didn't know it snowed so much up here"
persephone did say she's not going back to olympus
or, well, strongly implied it
lunar kiln
||https://imgur.com/a/zhL9kEI|| 3-pic album of the conversation
bleak osprey
no wait yeah she directly states it
I won't be returning to Olympus. If there is a place where I belong in this world, it must be somewhere between heaven and hell. Perhaps it's on the coast and has a little garden.
lunar kiln
it's styx she's in the temple of styx
technically the temple isnt quite part of the underworld
and definitely not heaven
onyx spoke
or just
earth
lunar kiln
she's one of the bodies you find in the temple
dense fox
Hrrrrm... you don't think it's like a end of the world situaton do you?
onyx spoke
There is a war going on that even the Furies had to get involved in...
stray egret
Demeter must have snapped due to Persephone refusing to return
lunar kiln
"perhaps it's on the coast..."
there's water in the final boss chamber
"and has a little garden"
it's snowing but it would look like a pretty garden to me
onyx spoke
how do we even know demeter is involved
aside from myth, she hasn't even been alluded to at all
cosmic crescent
It's a farfetched theory for which we have no real evidence thus far.
stray egret
True
cosmic crescent
One guy was very passionate about it, but I am not seeing it, not quite.
stray egret
Something is going on, but we don't know the whole story
cosmic crescent
The only thing we do know:
lunar kiln
she's living the life in her giant mansion in florida
runic terrace
belive thats just called "rennovations" jfjfjf
dense fox
apparently when you go to hypnos after a hades death he goes "you got killed by a [redacted]? Huh, never seen that happen before."
II'm not saying redacted for spoiler reasons, it literaly sayd redacted on his death notes
dense fox
Imagine trying to explain that to hades:
Hypnos: Errrrr.... lord hades? There's a issue with my scroll.
Hades: What is it?
Hypnos: Well errr, it says zag got killed by a.... redacted? Is that normal?
Hades: It's working fine, carry on.
Hypnos: but what's redac-
Hades: I. SAID. IT'S. WORKING. FINE, CARRY. ON!
lunar kiln
ok listen up i got an idea
runic terrace
👂
amber canyon
I mean Demeter has indirectly been alluded to being one of the six elder gods
lunar kiln
so you know when you beat hades it's stated that charon personally brings him back to the house right
amber canyon
But yeah its basically just because Myth Demeter made the earth experience eternal winter
That I assume Demeter is gonna be involved
lunar kiln
what if he did it the zag away and just. drifted back to the house and into the styx pool in the house
and to keep up appearances he somehow has to sneak past hypnos and the rest of the house staff and back to his post
amber canyon
Also because none of the gods that we already know of/that have been alluded to could have anything to do with the winter anyway
dense fox
And poor dusa is the only one who sees him and he just makes a finger across his neck motion to say "not. one word."
wide wind
would zag really threaten dusa?
dense fox
no but hades might
lunar kiln
dusa was like. cleaning the tiles at the bottom of the pool and hades just drops into the pool
cosmic crescent
Big man making big splashes
wide wind
oh i totally misread ur thing as zag instead of hades
lunar kiln
but she doesnt suspect a thing because hades is just helm-of-darkness-ing his way back to his desk
onyx spoke
Hades might have his own pool in his room
but I find the thought of giant Hades tip toeing around the House more funny so I like that theory better
cosmic crescent
By the way
I am coming around to Artemis' new Marked
For room clear, it is ridiculous
dense fox
Hades does all the tiptoeing and darkness helming but the blood leaves toeprints and everyone finds them and is like "Wait did zag do it?"
And then zag comes back due to narrator is like "Ah s a mutual kill. still neat"
cosmic crescent
And it is fairly strong in every except two 2-3 boss fights
onyx spoke
new marked is busted
lunar kiln
hypnos: wow zag were your feet always so big
onyx spoke
I linked a victory in #h1-builds-and-combat that used it, it melts anything
cosmic crescent
The one I have linked there with the Plume had it as well
But the real star was Dionysus
He gave me EVERYTHING!
Zeus Duoboon, Legendary, all that good stuff
together with crits thanks to marked.
Lightning came raining down the ceiling and it hit for critical damage so often, so hard
dense fox
Hades make a illusion of Zag ghen while everyone is watching "zag" he heads to his room with the helm to clean up
flat saddle
what does the zeus/dio duo boon do? that's a new one right?
somber gull
The real ending will be in the final release haha
strange cipher
@flat saddle #h1-builds-and-combat
flat saddle
daddy was literally just talking about that specific boon so I presumed it would be relevant
for this channel
lol
strange cipher
daddy hades?
somber gull
Degrand
strange cipher
oh
I didn't read up sowwy
Man, Hades' introductory animation is so cool and intimidating until his cape just disappears.
cosmic crescent
@flat saddle Zeus/Dio Was in the game before.
flat saddle
oh right, I guess I never got that combination
cosmic crescent
The cast of Dionysus leaves behind a cloud, right?
Enemies standing in that cloud get 80 lightning damage regularly
onyx spoke
re: hades' cape
I got a dialogue suggesting that it's supposed to burn up, but it just vanishes
simple cave
I noticed that as well, kinda breaks the atmosphere a little bit
simple cave
Wondering if they will add hecatonchires to the game
stark tulip
that’s a name
onyx spoke
that sounds like a disease
"aw heck my mom passed away from hecatonchires last weekend"
"I'm sorry jimmy"
bright jasper
atomic forge
Nah.
hollow garden
New Duo Boon effects are up on the Duo Boon wiki page (no artwork but the effects are there)
Styx page also has some more detail on it as well.
simple cave
It is a name indeed
But Hecatonchires were, like the cyclopses, who made Zeus' thunderbolts, three children of the Earth Mother Gaia and Sky Father Ouranos
With hundred heads and hundred arms each
Can be pretty interesting as really end-game
blissful ermine
they made the thunderbolts?! That's so cool!!!! I never knew that!
simple cave
Yeah they did! Zeus rewarded their help in the Titomanchy with a place in what would be Hephaestus' forge
The more we know
odd marten
hades is a beast
blissful ermine
what;s Titomanchy ??
snow pecan
Dad makes me mad
visual laurel
@blissful ermine The Titanomachy was the huge battle between the Titans (the old pantheon - cronus, rhea, etc.) and their children, the Olympian Gods
When you see the codex entries for the weapons referencing a big fight between Hades, Zeus and the others vs the Titans, that's the Titanomachy!
Greek myth has a big thing for generational cycles - chaos created the primordials (who inherited the universe), the primordials gave birth to the Titans (who killed their parents and took over the universe), the Titans gave birth to the Olympians (who...killed their parents and took over the universe)...
i imagine that's the context for ||Hades when he says "We're gods, boy. Killing each other is our lot."||
amber canyon
Specifically, there were 6 olympian gods fighting during the titonmachy
Zeus, Hades, Poseidon, Hera, Hestia, Demeter
visual laurel
Right, Cronus' children
amber canyon
Yup
drifting citrus
olympians made the humans
amber canyon
Technically Hestia is often not considered an Olympian
visual laurel
Zeus' kids are lined up to be the "new" pantheon
drifting citrus
so there's a revolution sometime in the future
amber canyon
And given that she is the goddess of the hearth and warmth she should count
visual laurel
Apollo, Artemis, Dionysus, Hermes, Ares, Athena
amber canyon
She is like the kindly old grandma of Olympian gods
drifting citrus
at some point in mythological history she was replaced by dio
amber canyon
But yeah, each weapon we use in the game
drifting citrus
she just wasn't lit enough 😔
amber canyon
Is one of the weapons used in the Titanomachy
Hades's Bident, Zeus's shield, Hestia's gun, Poseidon's sword and Hera's bow
The sixth one is almost certainly Demeters weapon, though what it will be we do not know
Wait was Hephaestus not Zeus's kid?
drifting citrus
maybe??? i know he was an olympian
visual laurel
he was but he doesn't show up here gkjdfdg
some accounts say he was Hera's child alone
drifting citrus
damn.
amber canyon
On the other hand he was the god of bloody volcanoes
I think he came out ahead in the end
drifting citrus
i prefer my volcanoes bloodless anyway
amber canyon
Coward
cunning needle
i just found the best narrator death
zagreus finds a mortal farm on the surface and gets killed by accidentally stepping on a rake
atomic forge
Hehe I liked that one a lot
runic terrace
imagine ur a farmer minding your own business and you see this well dressed cthonic dude covered in blood and youre like AAAA and then he immediately trips and dies
visual laurel
KJGHFKJG
cunning needle
get rekt zag
runic terrace
like you would tell your farmer friends but they a: wouldnt believe you or b: say that its a bad omen
cunning needle
and then an hour later the same dude who died shows up AGAIN
bleak osprey
"hey, i think i saw a god" "wHAT" "yeah he tripped over a rake i left out and died"
cunning needle
and dies again
compact verge
Imagine being up on Olympus, Zag's just stumbled out of the Underworld, you're gonna get his demigod butt up to the mountain, but before you get there he KOs himself with a rake and ends up back in the underworld
amber canyon
Now we need that Simpsons scene with Sideshow bob, except its Zag
lyric pine
oh my god that rake thing is bloody hilarious
whoever comes up with those things deserves a payrise
onyx spoke
this is the equivalent of Dr. Nakayama falling down stairs in borderlands 2
digital crag
zag gets to the surface with one health, a butterfly lands on him killing him instantly
waxen crater
omg
omgomgomgee ...
I am shook at this update
this is the spoilers page, I can speak freely, right?
compact verge
Go ham
waxen crater
I avoided logging in until I was able to play the game for myself without spoilers and wow
gameplay wise, the game felt a little easier
all biomes were noticiably shorter
Temple of Styx labyrinth/tiny rooms mechanic is very cool and unique
I was quite used to huge rooms of Elysium and Asphodel so it was claustrophobic (in a good way)
the poison dps is something that really makes our heart race and panic, I started looking for healing fountains before starting fights, just so I know where to heal
I love that they made us fear having to battle you know who but got around that in a fetch quest xD
as for the final battle....
and dialogue....
I am SHOOK TO THE CORE
I felt it was slow, but Big Bad Boss took out 4 of mine lasting Death Defiances in his 2 phases
I was like "oh, it was hard, but I though it would be harder..is it over already?" and them BOOM - ENTIRE LIFE REPLENISHED- NEW ATTACKS + MORE DAMAGE PER ATTACK
I died in 2 seconds flat in phase two xD
ah yes
and Im quite happy that in the THREE Daedelus Hammers I got
all three had options for my Sword Special
so I got Double Nova, Wider Nova and Empowering Nova x3
Ares Doom dealing 170 extra doom after all the hit
+6% Crit chance on all damage I dealt (Artemis followed me like a stalker through this run, she was a god option like 6 times!)
Still am not used to the new Wrath, should feel good to use it more often, and only have the god show up.when all 6 bars are full
i dont know
I have to re-learn a whole lot of the game now...
I had some Specials hitting 2x 600dmg!
compact verge
Woah, you did way better than me. The Big Bad Boss beat me before I even took off a quarter of their health.
digital crag
offensive wraths now feel a lot nicer cause you can just pop one off for burst damage
stark tulip
yeah, it’s so nice being able to use them much like you would an attack
waxen crater
thanks!
I didnt know who to focus
I feel like its much better to just ignore his petrified summons and go to town on them
I like they kept his mithological correct power of Invisibility (it would be nice to see a Terror special of them, that made our screen all wonky and distorted for some time)
but yeah, you can track the Big Bad pretty easily seeing their footsteps on the snow
and you can still do damage even invisible! xD
Doom effect looks like a Sims diamond pointer on them xD
digital crag
i didn't quite figure out the timing but athena wrath could be very nice to deal with flame wheels and asterius's bull rush
stark tulip
Very good for hades projectiles too
compact verge
It's nice being able to actually use wrath outside of boss fights because nothing else lasted long enough to build up enough wrath
digital crag
A+ improvement
tall ingot
Idk how I did that but the try when I won I lost 60hp no more fighting big dad
waxen crater
wait what
did you win or lose the fight?
dense fox
_sees the latest pinned post and is reminded of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQj-fdwZ9O4_
dense fox
be me
not watched hades in several months
sees video of first boss
it's no longer megera
"what the hell happened?"
digital crag
other two furies
dense fox
i got that but why thought? first one i saw was the one who only says murderer and i was like "HOLY NUTS DID ZAG KILL MEG OR GET HER KILLED BY HADES FOR FAILURE OR SOMETHING
frozen jolt
hades got frustrated with meg's inability to stop zag and called the other furies down to help
so, zag has killed meg many times, yes
compact verge
I'm glad Zag had the same reaction to Tis as me, the reaction being "Hoo boy, this is uncomfortable and I wish she'd say literally anything other than 'murderer'".
digital crag
zag is very polite to them both
dense fox
Well i meant like permadeath or something rats 0-0.
digital crag
tbh now i just have a really hard time gifting meg ambrosia because i run into her way less than 1/3 of the time
frozen jolt
i luckily maxed her out beforehand
dense fox
she's probably avoiding you due to making her work with her sisters
frozen jolt
but i get sad when she doesnt show up at the house
digital crag
i haven't seen pat since the update i'm sad
sad and have low health going into boss fight
dense fox
Meg: I really don't like you right now zag. I have to work with these two bozos. One is a freacking sadist and the only thing the other says is murderer. It's like the threee stooges except they'd tell funy jokes once in a while
digital crag
they're just very dedicated to their work
meg has some degree of work-life separation
dense fox
So what you are saying is we need to work ojn our friendship with the murder one and get her to say other stuff/have a out of work life
She's so dedicated to her work she has a one word vocabulary
she needs a holidy or something
dense fox
ok so two words. she still needs a break
compact verge
Tis is a serious workaholic
atomic forge
It's really one word and an extra syllable.
digital crag
who's gonna torment all the murderers that need tormentin' though
atomic forge
In her defense, she is a literal ageless deity that leapt forth wholly formed from the blood of an OLDER ageless deity.
Work-life balance might not register with her like it does us puny humans.
digital crag
tisi can also say mmmmminecraft
dense fox
just tell em you going on holiday to invent some worse torments in your free time. then watch as hey imagine what you will do when they get back. maybe take notes if there's some good ones
digital crag
they'd have less work cut out for them if hades didn't insist on eternally punishing all those dead people in tartarus
compact verge
I mean, it's less paperwork if he just shuffles them all into the 'Tartarus' pile
atomic forge
I think that would require dumping Patroclus and Asterius into Tatarus, and I'm not about that life.
digital crag
:(
dense fox
Tis inner thoughts: I've not had a drink of ambrosia in centuries! Lord hades needs to get that stick out of his butt and let us let our hair down once in a while. I've not had time to even really take cae of myself, my jaw's devolved into only being able to utter ONE BLEEDING WORD!
tis speaking: murderer!
compact verge
Tis also needs a better skincare routine, she's looking a little dry
atomic forge
she deserves a forehead kiss
digital crag
mmmmmoisturize
dense fox
Hades disallowed the ambrosia bath healthcare scheme in 78
cosmic crescent
Sometimes, when you lose to her, she says "Murderer" so clear and with a finality in her voice that it actually hurts my sould.
"Murderer."
dense fox
tis has been suffering ever since
digital crag
zag: whaaat i'm not a murderer
tisi: looks directly at camera
dense fox
I'd just love it if just once tis broke her one voice line to call zag out:
tis: Murderer!
Zag: I'm no murderer for crying out loud.
tis: Actually yes you are. you killed us three furies over and over. you smashed lots of souls on the way here. and when you die you do it again and again. sure they might not die forever from it, but they suffer, they die in the moment. you are as guilty as all those i torment.
zag:... did you just call me out? with words?
tis: murderer!
zag: (sighs) of course
atomic forge
Picked up the Satyr Sack.
Zag: Ah good. It's still fresh. 
Just wanna say that the whole design of the exit door (Hades' symbol blown up with a sun at the horns, the clouds down low, the Cerberus bone floor print tail ALSO ending in Hades' symbol, and especially the Furies watching the path) is just fantastic. I hope purchasable artwork is made of it.
digital crag
i don't want to think about what's in the sack
lunar kiln
A smaller sack
lyric pine
sackseption
olive sand
hello everyone! I'm stuck, can't beat Hades' second phase. With what kind of build do you manage to beat him?
simple cave
I got lucky and got Ares nearly every boon, so that my rift blades just shredded him. Together with second wind for the dodge and Dashing wallop with knockback on my shield i managed to beat im
neat elm
I really wonder how I'm gonna make 120 heat run now - should have done it on earlier versions🙈
cosmic crescent
That actually blows my mind
dense fox
Imagine if one of the bull ones had said "zag almost reached the surface, but then cerberus ate him. Should give him a snack next time"
limber sage
rats, we're rats, we're the rats
versed canopy
So who reckons when they launch 1.0 they should give us an option to reset our story progress so we can play it from the beginning without throwing away our unlocks?
versed canopy
I think it would be a nice feature if it isn't hard for them to implement
A little remiss I won't get to experience the full story in one big hit
simple cave
Thats actually a pretty good idea
Im some one who likes to refresh once in a while, to begin anew
So i would rlly like something like that
versed canopy
I would put it in suggestions but I haven't done the verification or whatever haha
stark tulip
when I got to the end and saw the mods/beta testers I was like “HEY I KNOW THOSE NAMES”
I think it’s rad sgg did that
runic terrace
celebrities shop too but me @ myself
bleak osprey
i'd be lying if i said that wasn't one of the first things i went to check lmao
runic terrace
YEAH SAME
hollow garden
:lul:
bleak osprey
i'm not so sure this icon works at such a tiny size
hollow garden
I've been trying to be super humble about it. Last thing I want is to give off the impression of bragging about it :p
stark tulip
that’s a good call tbh
hollow garden
It is certainly nice to be appreciated though. :)
bleak osprey
yeah 
lunar kiln
this is my first time in a video game's credits so like i will Cherish this moment
runic terrace
ghfhjfhj separate area called "most creative icon" that also has just your name under it
lunar kiln
you were spared the "xX_B055_B4BY_Xx"
lunar kiln
look i was really tempted
but i just couldnt bring myself to do it
belgo feels more professional and im more known under that name jsdfhjsg
hollow garden
LUL
frozen jolt
Belgo does feel more professional than xX_B055_B4By_Xx but I can’t put my finger on why
hollow garden
Real talk it's also the first time my name has ever been in the credits of, idk anything, so I'm not entirely sure how I'm supposed to react.
frozen jolt
my online nickname in the majority of places is my first name, or my shortened full name, so I just went with the name. But I guess I missed my vriska (vriska) moment
stark tulip
Alma “Vriska did nothing wrong”
hollow garden
Also that was a great loss, now I'll never see xX_B055_B4By_Xx in any credits ever
amber canyon
Imagine opening the Hades credits and the first thing you see is "Karkat Vantas"
hollow garden
Someone in the credits is named "World Splitter" though I'm pretty sure which made me really laugh when I read it.
amber canyon
Also I might be slightly envious of the beta testers
cosmic crescent
Oh yeah, saw that name
tardy cedar
How many people from here are in the credits, do ya think?
runic terrace
probably most
stark tulip
they say and thank you to everyone in the community so all of us, really
hollow garden
I'm sure most of the beta testers are here in the discord. Some of them are probably just a little quieter than myself and a couple others.
frozen jolt
yeah I’m pretty sure all of them are! Or were at some point
stark tulip
Hades’ projectiles always get me and I couldn’t imagine them faster
cosmic crescent
Don't even know if I really would want to be a beta tester.
There is something exciting about getting thrown into a new update without knowing anything before hand
or having tested out anything yourself.
I have been playing Smite since forever and always had like a week or two of PTS before a new update came out
amber canyon
Thats fair, on the other hand as a beta tester you technically will have worked with SGG in some capacity
That in itself would be awesome
cosmic crescent
While that would be amazing
and while I am very amazing
SSG is doing a great enough job without me.
lunar kiln
beta testers are handpicked from contributions to this discord so they should all be from here
stark tulip
As much as I despise Theseus’ arrogance he’s a really fun character lol
Imagine writing those insults sounds so fun
amber canyon
I guess I didnt contribute enough then >.>
But hey, at least I was likely responsible for the explosive launcher change so
Ill take what I can get
frozen jolt
Fiend is just the funniest word
lunar kiln
just one letter away from friend
frozen jolt
Friend, and maybe more...?
stark tulip
Oh ho ho....
amber canyon
With fiends like you, who needs friends
lunar kiln
i
frozen jolt
I think fiends to friends should be the new name of the fanfic trope
amber canyon
Whats the current trope name?
frozen jolt
Enemies to friends
stark tulip
wish I could give Theseus ambrosia despite his terminal idiocy 😔
frozen jolt
(To lovers)
lunar kiln
brovers
frozen jolt
oh my god ali I never thought of that but I want it so bad now
stark tulip
Theseus is already brovers with asterius
amber canyon
Speaking of tropes
hollow garden
Theseus is an absolutely hilarious character.
amber canyon
Is Hypnos the friend nobody likes?
amber canyon
Too late
runic terrace
never
lunar kiln
hypnos is like the annoying little brother who means well but... underestimated by everybody
runic terrace
i like hypnos
stark tulip
too late kam
hollow garden
I literally don't think they could have written a Greek hero better. Nothing could have better conveyed the sheer... "jerk" that Greek heroes are more than Theseus's writing. And I absolutely love that it's comically apparent.
frozen jolt
Theseus is so dumb but it’s what makes him so good
amber canyon
Well then by your own admission you no longer exist
lunar kiln
technically hypnos could defeat the entire house of hades population in a matter of seconds
runic terrace
theseus is jock aj and thats the facts
amber canyon
Youre just Odysseus now
frozen jolt
if he was like actually good at anything but combat he would’ve been an unfun character
stark tulip
he’s only got one big bicep in his brain
frozen jolt
but thank god he isn’t!
hollow garden
And yes Greek Heroes are jerks. No one remembers that Theseus abandoned his wife... twice I believe... oh and don't forget too he got his dad killed...
runic terrace
zag hands him ambrosia and theseus smashes it on the ground and then jumps up and down on it and immediately cuts his feet on the glass
frozen jolt
LMAO
amber canyon
How about "Theseus falls for updog and is extra annoyed next time Zag fights him"
runic terrace
GIFTS? FROM YOU? HAH. I SPIT UPON YOUR GIFT, FIEND, I SMASH IT UPON THE GROUND, I- OOF OUCH OW
hollow garden
LOL
amber canyon
"While Asterius is in the background desperately trying not to laugh"
visual laurel
oof ouch ow foot hurty juice
hollow garden
I need this interaction
Supergiant I know you're listening. For the April Fool's update, I request, nay, in true Theseus fashion, I demand to be able to gift Theseus.
hollow garden
No what he's supposed to do in true chad jock frat boi fashion is take 2 Ambrosia and crush them against his head flailing about wildly
runic terrace
HGFHGFGH
onyx spoke
does he do that weird athlete thing where he just pours it on his forehead
stark tulip
keg stand but ambrosia
hollow garden
I demand a joke outfit where Theseus is decked out in a football uniform.
runic terrace
zags like do u ever think we live in a cycle of violence and hes like THINK? I NEVER THINK. IT IS AN HONOR TO CRUSH YOU LIKE A SODA CAN
hollow garden
I just love the fact that he is so utterly ridiculous
It's the perfect end to my favorite biome.
stark tulip
and asterius is just like “yeah I guess this idiots mine”
runic terrace
asters like idk he grew on me
hollow garden
Which is honestly already the game's peak absurdity. There are dead Greek heroes literally killing you for more glory and because they're bored out of their minds sitting around in paradise. What more could you ask for except a natural escalation into Theseus.
runic terrace
which, to be fair, i did not like theseus at ALL at first but he grew on me too!
snow brook
If you are forced to rethink your opinions, you might have to deal with being wrong.
Therefore don't think, just smash.
runic terrace
tru tru
stark tulip
OH NO.... what if asterius sees some of his old self in Theseus
runic terrace
and elysium like........as a place, actively resists change
runic terrace
elysium encourages a boiling down of your most repeated actions in life
hollow garden
I loved how ridiculous he is. He's so comical and flat out brazenly arrogant it really speaks to how Greek heroes really aren't that great.
snow brook
Well they are all humans, it just depends on how people like Herodotus wanted to depict em.
hollow garden
And I absolutely love Zagreus's first interaction with him
Where he goes from flat out awe inspiration to "wow this guy is a huge jerk will he just shut it already"
stark tulip
Never meet ur heroes
runic terrace
lunar kiln
zag meeting theseus for the 1st time: wow you're so cool! im gonna kick your butt >:)
zag meeting theseus afterwards: oh you kinda suck actually
visual laurel
my favorite is after beating him sometimes zag's just like "what a loudmouth" gkdjfhjgfd
lunar kiln
character growth
oh but then
when you're in the "break room" post-theseus fight hades is like "theseus was defeated by the likes of you??" and zag replies "dont forget asterius"
stark tulip
asterius is usually the one to get me more anyways lol
The Minotaur autograph event is also very good
hollow garden
Wait can you actually get his autograph
Cause if so how did I miss that interaction
lunar kiln
i think you have to lose to asterius a few times
stark tulip
I’m pretty sure I did?
lunar kiln
i myself didnt get his autograph jfdsfhg