#h1-story-discussion

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visual laurel
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be very very careful what you wish for, mx. zonebone

acoustic condor
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Mr U_U

runic terrace
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ezo im imagining you saying this in fromnt of a badly done greenscreen

visual laurel
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mr. zonebone

acoustic condor
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A badly done greenscreen and a powerpoint that'

digital crag
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okay heightmap is not very ambient though

acoustic condor
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s just me making my shrine for Than and crying

digital crag
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it gets intense

runic terrace
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yes

visual laurel
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i may have mistaken it

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i can't remember transistor music titles

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gimme a sec

digital crag
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i don't want to be examining a gyroscope display when the drums kick in and i guess i have to battle 50 cluckers now

visual laurel
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sorry

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"vanishing point"

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not heightmap.

cold canopy
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still going

digital crag
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impossible is the best instrumental track

cold canopy
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ughhh there is no way in hell i can pick a single favorite of those

visual laurel
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sorry i swerved to transistor gkjdfgdf

digital crag
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oh right we're in hades

cold canopy
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oops

visual laurel
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THAT'S MY FAULT

digital crag
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i wonder what elysium music is gonna be like though

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pleasant? happy??

visual laurel
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๐Ÿค” ๐Ÿค”

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it's still gotta be jammin' bc we're gonna be fighting things.....theoretically

digital crag
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the pleasant elevator music turns into electric guitar the second zag sets foot in elysium

cold canopy
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elysium becomes a dance off

visual laurel
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gkjdghdfjg a ripple goes out as every warrior in elysium gets a, like, alert on their ancient greek cell phones

runic terrace
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"alert. alert. my awful son"

digital crag
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speaking of which. is zag gonna be meeting ppl in elysium for the first time

visual laurel
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yeah

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he's never been there idt

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the implication is that he was always limited to tartarus

digital crag
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he has pre-established relationships with everyone in hell so far except alecto and tisi i guess

visual laurel
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yeah but he never met alecto and tisiphone explicitly bc they don't stay in the house

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and he didn't even meet meg until his dad...."introduced" them

runic terrace
digital crag
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how is this going to work with zag "hi i've only met you for twenty minutes please accept a dozen ambrosias"

visual laurel
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i'd say zag would be upset about fighting real people but, i don't think he would be, really gkfjgdf

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he's also clearly ignorant of a lot of mythology/storytelling

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he doesn't seem to know anything about the trojan war outside of what little achilles has told him

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so like even if he met...odysseus or something he probably wouldn't have even heard of the dude before

digital crag
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clearly he doesn't consider what he's doing murder

visual laurel
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to be fair
they're already dead.

acoustic condor
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G O D I hope we get Odysseus

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Love to hate that guy

visual laurel
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mystery elbow be odysseus when

acoustic condor
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I dignified Odyssues w too many essays in high school

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Yooooooooo... that's not a bad guess tbh

digital crag
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i'm okay with a dr seuss

acoustic condor
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Black Odysseus could work

digital crag
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i want him to tell zag about his wife incessantly

acoustic condor
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His wife on whom he regularly cheats

digital crag
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sometimes odysseus is described as dark skinned

acoustic condor
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Is he?

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I'm ngl the Odyssey was, by and large, a blur for me

visual laurel
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imo sgg can play as fast and loose with skin colors as they want

digital crag
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you know what, i will not say things without the source to back it up

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i'm not gonna be like that

acoustic condor
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I think that was around the time my best friend lost his eye and I fell into a Great Depression so if I'm not up on the facts

digital crag
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i will go Find A Source

visual laurel
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like, they're gods, they can be whatever color they wanna be. it's been nice to see a decent spread so far

digital crag
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unrelated but emily wilson is doing an illiad translation and i'm pumped for when it's gonna be available in like..... five years

acoustic condor
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Yeah I like that they're being experimental

visual laurel
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did i post my list here or was that in dm's

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i think it was in dm's

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hold on

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ah yes

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answer i would accept: it's ajax/hercules/perseus idk
fun answer: it's agamemnon or theseus and they're only there to get their asses kicked```
acoustic condor
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I'm into Odysseus

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That's gotta be my vote

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And like the dark cold colours, the gold

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V regal

visual laurel
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yeah i thought the uhhh the gold read kingly to me

acoustic condor
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But not like too king-like and fancy just chill king

visual laurel
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can't tell if the skirt is a battle skirt or a chiton

acoustic condor
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Like warrior king but not 'I need to wear armour' warrior king

visual laurel
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like i read it as markers of high status BUT it is elysium so like maybe everybody in elysium looks fancy, who knows

digital crag
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odysseus could be interesting since it'd be fun to slap the 'pious prophet who's lost connection to their god and is sad about it' thing onto a big scary warrior

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i used to be athena's fave but now she never calls me anymore

visual laurel
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zag: "oh i talked to her like half an hour ago"

acoustic condor
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One time I saw a bird and I swore it was Zeus but there are no birds in Hell so wtf am I meant to do now

visual laurel
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zag: "or, well, she talked to me,"

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i'm still laughing at homer like "how do i show odysseus is smart. ah yes. have him be a match for freaking AJAX by kicking him in the knee. this is peak tactics"

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"clearly kicking a literal mountain of a man in the knee in a wrestling match puts your brains on the same level as his brawn"

acoustic condor
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Unrelated but do yall think we'll ever see Iris in here?

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Or is she just gunna be an invisible telephone

visual laurel
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i kinda doubt it personally

digital crag
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literally anyone trying to write a character smarter than they are though

visual laurel
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i mean yeah, it's a struggle

acoustic condor
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I kinda just wanna see Jen do... Everyone

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She really is the best artist in the industry

digital crag
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peak odysseus smarts tm:
hmm how will we be able to find a boy disguised as a girl in a whole crowd of girls, i know, get me a box of barbies and a hot wheels

visual laurel
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KJGDHFKGJFD YEAH

digital crag
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oh and the daedalus myth

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only the smartest man in the world can figure out this devious puzzle of putting a string through a shell, if someone solves it it must be daedalus

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that's some glass slipper nonsense right there

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apparently he's not smart enough to figure out that when soldiers are marching around randomly offering people puzzles that means the king is looking for him and he should just play dumb

visual laurel
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plenty of very smart people have no common sense gkjdfgd

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also half the fun of having characters like odysseus who are kind of overconfident of their own intelligence is knocking them down a peg

digital crag
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still laughing at that one probably made up account where neoptolemus kicks him out of ithaca

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my sheep rock now

visual laurel
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zag: "oh my mentor is achilles"
odysseus: "achilles, huh? hey i know i told him before that his brat did well but i take it back"
zag: "......achilles has a kid, what"

digital crag
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ancient greek myth sex ed: understand that having kids is a big responsibility! don't have kids until you're prepared to be accidentally killed by your own son in an ironic twist of fate

visual laurel
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i'm waiting for the inevitable achilles and apollo interactions

digital crag
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god can he be still mad after however many hundreds of years

visual laurel
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I DON'T KNOW BUT I WANT TO FIND OUT

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also just in general that zag doesn't know how achilles died so that's a blank to be filled in

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also also the fact that apollo also killed patroclus

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~spoilers for the iliad~

digital crag
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IT'S BEEN TWO AND A HALF MILLENNIA

acoustic condor
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Apollo killed his own damn bfs too

visual laurel
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hey at least a chunk of those were accidents

acoustic condor
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Apollo actually struggles w internalized homophobia Achilles you can't be mad at him U_U

visual laurel
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apollo is just very unfortunate in the bf department

acoustic condor
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He really is

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That's why he needs Zag to come and spice things up

visual laurel
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remember the time he got sent to earth as a punishment and immediately fell in love with a local king

acoustic condor
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Greg give Zagreus All The Boyfriends

visual laurel
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and he just spent his entire like, "punishment" flirting and being domestic

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and his relatives on olympus were like

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"dude gross what are you doing"

acoustic condor
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Wait hold on would Apollo be related to Zagreus

visual laurel
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yes

acoustic condor
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Yeah

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Cousin

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Damn

visual laurel
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they are uhhhhhhhhhhhh half cousins

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or just regular cousins?

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regular cousins

acoustic condor
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Not that incest meant anything to the gods but

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Yeah

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Artemis' brother and all

visual laurel
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oh is it

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i think it's context dependent

digital crag
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i have like a dozen translations of the odyssey open to check a claim

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too bad i don't know greek

neat crow
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I could be wrong, I'm not a mod after all shadesmile

visual laurel
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yeah, we're convening gkjfgfd

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conclusion: let's generally try to avoid that word

digital crag
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god, in merrill's translation telemachus calls eumaeus "papa" ๐Ÿ’”

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whoa proxy

runic terrace
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rip jan

visual laurel
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OH RIP

digital crag
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it's A NAME

visual laurel
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YEAH THAT WAS IT

runic terrace
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its the f slur in someones name

visual laurel
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AAAAAAA

digital crag
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sorry robert

runic terrace
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jmbgjgjkgk

visual laurel
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call him robert kgjdfg

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robert f.

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frobert

runic terrace
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frobert

digital crag
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murray: he grew dark of color
wilson: he became tanned
pope:  Youth flush'd his reddening cheek
butler: she gave him back his colour
johnston: His skin grew dark once more
merrill: Dark once more was his skin```
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there's so many odysseys

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greg was allowed to say robert in the ama

visual laurel
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greg has supergiant powers of exemption

digital crag
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and in quotes of the patch

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oh lmao i bet you had to disable proxy for supergiants that would be hilarious

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proxy banne supergiant for posting patch notes

acoustic condor
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Yaaaaaaaaaaas dark Odysseus let's get that bread

visual laurel
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odysseus unacquainted with sunburn meanwhile achilles being the delicate lily he is would burn to a crisp if not for the god blood

acoustic condor
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I'm still not sure what Achilles' accent is meant to be

digital crag
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it's like......fake irish

acoustic condor
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It feels like they were going for Irish

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As an Irish person I'm not offended but I am amused and not sure why Achilles is suddenly Celtic

neat crow
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As I recall, all the Chthonic cast are supposed to be fantasy-American? Not sure if Achilles falls in that category. The Olympians are fantasy-British

acoustic condor
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Does this mean Cu Chulainn can show up

digital crag
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what even is fantasy american

neat crow
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That might not be the exact term, but it was in one of the AMAs

digital crag
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you say fantasy american i think like, 50s broadcaster, teddy roosevelt voice

acoustic condor
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Oh yeah the gods are all fantasy British huh

neat crow
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I'll see if I can dig it up

visual laurel
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Folks born in the underworld speak American, folks born on olympus or on the surface speak "lord of the rings"

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e.g. the vaguely british prestige english associated with foreign accents and fantasy worlds

digital crag
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is it my periodic reminder to bring up the trivia that americans used to put on a british affected accent to sound high class and fancy back in the 20th century

visual laurel
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it's not, like, real british, just brit-flavored

neat crow
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So apparently Achilles falls into the "fantasy British" category

visual laurel
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yeah

digital crag
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but like, if he's fantasy irish is that supposed to imply he's a bit more...... "down to earth"???

visual laurel
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all the mortals do

digital crag
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fake welsh sisyphus when

visual laurel
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oh lord please no

digital crag
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canadian thanatos when

visual laurel
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please no

digital crag
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wight where do you get these emojis

neat crow
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Hey, what's wrong with being Canadian squirtdevious

visual laurel
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no escaping from death, and all, eh?

neat crow
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I collect emotes... it's a sickness

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Some are from Twitch subs

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Some are just from my assortment of Discord servers

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Some I have made myself

visual laurel
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i feel like my best approximation of canadian is actually minnesotan

acoustic condor
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Orpheus is already almost fake Welsh

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He just needs to sit into his vowels a little more and he's there

digital crag
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minnesotans are basically canadians so,

neat crow
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That's true, ven, re: Minnesotan ๐Ÿ˜›

visual laurel
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oh! i'm already there then, doncha know

digital crag
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that lake should be on our side of the border anyways

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petition to reunite the great lakes

neat crow
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Canadian accents do vary a fair bit from one side of the country to another, just like the US

visual laurel
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i said two words to a store clerk outside minneapolis-st. paul and he scanned my soda and was like "you're not from around here, are yah"

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the only people who can peg my accent usually are far northerners gkjdfgfd

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and linguists

neat crow
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The accent you're making fun of is more central Canadian and central American

digital crag
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yeah if anything i get mistaken for west coast US (vancouver)

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okay okay the spookiest thing is like

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i moved out of china when i was 8 right, so i think i pretty much don't have an accent anymore, but one time i asked my phonetics professor if she can tell my accent, and she said she could kinda tell

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she said she knows a lot of chinese-canadians who emigrated very young and like, there is a vaguely distinct quality??

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phonetician super hearing

neat crow
acoustic condor
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Why wavemakers are the third worst enemy in the game, after cyclopes and brimstones

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This also includes the new hydra head

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Waves are the only projectile that isn't blocked by the shield during bullrush

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Witch balls, gorgon stones, and brimstone lasers are all blocked during bullrush charge and the bullrush, but waves are only blocked during the charge

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Not A Fan

sly citrus
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Just wondering has a third area been released yet?

bleak osprey
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not yet, but soon!

sly citrus
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Thank you :-)

harsh sleet
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i have an exam the day the update comes out

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the beef will comfort me

somber gull
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The beef will fight your exam for you

runic terrace
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the beef arm writes the answers

harsh sleet
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itโ€™s a speaking exam and im just gonna rant about beef

runic terrace
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YES

honest coral
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๐Ÿฎ

acoustic condor
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T H A N I S J E A L O O O O O O O O O O U S

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"You've told me all I needed to know" ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€

digital crag
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hahahahahaha

runic terrace
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thannybythirst talky keep it down, ezo

digital crag
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he's in jail for jealousy crimes

acoustic condor
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What a gay little emo

runic terrace
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thanger talky ill never go to jail again!! never!!!!

acoustic condor
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Babey jail

runic terrace
acoustic condor
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I am so ready to unlock the next 4 hearts

runic terrace
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im not

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tear of ffying....

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whats behind those locks thanny.....

acoustic condor
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Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm his tender love for Zagreus Hades???????

digital crag
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draaaaaaaaama

runic terrace
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DRAMA

acoustic condor
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But when will he confess his love...

digital crag
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he'd spontaneously explode in an effort to be emotionally sincere

acoustic condor
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Perfect...

runic terrace
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death dies
cause of death tenderness and sincerity

acoustic condor
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The joke is that Thanatos was probably regarded as the nicest of the chthonics

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Just your friendly neighbourhood psychopomp

runic terrace
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p....psychological pompadour......

acoustic condor
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hhhhhhhhh

digital crag
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yes that is what psychopomp means

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you got it

acoustic condor
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Can we @ Jen for a redesign thanks

runic terrace
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hdbxncncn i got it!

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NO

acoustic condor
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Give Than a pompadour!

runic terrace
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HES PERFECT

acoustic condor
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Give him a motorcycle!

runic terrace
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....ok yeah

acoustic condor
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Give him lots of hairspray!

digital crag
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give him some chill

acoustic condor
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Take his boyfriend for a drive all the way through Hell and up into the sky

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Except he's dead when he gets there because the constant stream of aerosol suffocated him

runic terrace
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thanatos: seeya, suckers! I start up my motorcycle and drive away in a cloud on smoke. when the smoke clears im lying dead on the pavememt

acoustic condor
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Drive your boyfriend back down to Hell because he's dead now

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iourhgfiyuergfheiuorygeriuyug

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hhhhhhhhh 12 days

visual laurel
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YOU SAW THE CONVO

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isn't it great

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zag's little

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.......Oh.

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he's so..........................clueless

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@acoustic condor i want you to know i have a recording of that convo and it's saved as oh.mp4

bleak osprey
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bless his dumb lil heart

visual laurel
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nobody's ever flirted with zag before usually it's the other way around

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he doesn't know what this is gkdfjgfd

acoustic condor
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What else would you save it as

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It's the best part

digital crag
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you call that flirting???

visual laurel
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fair

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but the point stands

harsh sleet
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what if we kissed ๐Ÿคช๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ™ˆ๐Ÿ™ˆ
while i helped you escape the underworld ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜”๐Ÿ˜ณ

rapid zinc
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Askaljfhaeiuadcdf

visual laurel
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ghdkfhghdkg I MEAN

harsh sleet
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i rlly am praying for dating sim hades

rapid zinc
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I've been praying for dating sim hades ever since I found Sisyphus (the most smoochable npc)

harsh sleet
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EXACTLY i wanna romance everyone

visual laurel
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somehow i feel like EVERYONE is unlikely fhfhdkg i think we will have two options at best

harsh sleet
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hades dlc

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more dating options

onyx spoke
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realistically, how would that work though
"thanks for the dinner dusa, now I gotta leave forever"

runic terrace
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yes

rapid zinc
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I mean. That already happens in game

runic terrace
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tearful goodbyes all round

visual laurel
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i mean whether he likes it or not, than's already like, in the deep end so whether that becomes a whole Thing or not, zag's still gonna be leaving at least one person behind, not to mention meg, and not to mention achilles and nyx who i'm sure will miss him not matter how self-effacing they are

harsh sleet
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i actually forgot abt that tbh o h

visual laurel
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like.....a lot of people already care about him,,,

digital crag
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;;;;-;;;;

visual laurel
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none of this is to say that, like, that makes it better that zag chooses to be overly optimistic about maintaining relationships despite doing his very best to run away from them at the same time, but it is saying that hearts will be broken no matter what so uh...party?

onyx spoke
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๐Ÿฆ€ nobody in the underworld is happy ๐Ÿฆ€

digital crag
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sad crab time

atomic forge
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dead game?

honest coral
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lots of dead people in this game

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so yes

harsh sleet
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dead person here playing the game too

atomic forge
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ok

neat ingot
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๐Ÿ’€ โœŠ

lunar kiln
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ok folks we're 10 days away from the Day and before then id like to hear about your hcs

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i'm in the Mood

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besides twitch streamer sisyphus and the like

somber gull
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Prometheus is the random encounterable NPC in Elysium. I have no evidence to support this I just saw Sisyphus mention his name once so I thought it would be cool

lunar kiln
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oooo thats a good one

harsh sleet
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thanatos regularly brings back cats from the surface back tothe house of hades and everytime hades makes him take them back

visual laurel
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Pat will be an elysium npc, eurydice will be an asphodel npc, i think

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I'm hoping for more Things to do in asphodel because it's so...empty right now somehow

neat crow
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True, Tartarus feels like it has more "character" now

bleak osprey
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i think thatโ€™s because tartarus has the furies and also sisyphus

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thanatos can show up in either zone and the bone hydra doesnโ€™t really talk to zag

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hell, the dialogue about the hydra is with meg, in tartarus

somber gull
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galaxy brain predictions: the hydra is a new npc in the house of hades

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he's cerberus's playmate

vernal tendon
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^^^ was gonna say, cerberus needs a buddy with zag leaving and all

rapid zinc
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Hydra has multiple heads
Cerberus has multiple heads
Friends for life

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(Afterlife)

onyx spoke
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I think Achilles will end up being the boss in the new area, or at least a foe in some way
it's foreshadowed by Hades discovering that he's helping Zagreus in one of the conversations and if the new zone is Elysium, would make sense with the character

neat crow
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I don't see Achilles being an opponent at all

visual laurel
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Yeah, I personally think that foreshadowing was about Hades punishing Achilles...he said something to that effect

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About sending him to the lowest depths or something

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Cerberus or Thanatos had seemed like the most likely bosses, but now Thanatos is a friend, and tbh I don't...think SGG would make us fight our dog because that's a cheap shot

neat crow
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It's a big plot point that Cerberus is not guarding the gates of the Underworld

visual laurel
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Though there are times when he isn't in his lounging spot so he's probably doing something

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Chewing on some tortured souls somewhere in tartarus, lol

digital crag
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i want to see orpheus sprite

visual laurel
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GOD yeah i hope the last few blank sprites get filled in

bleak osprey
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crosses my fingers and hopes real hard for softboy orpheus

visual laurel
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i don't know if jen remembers....how to draw softboys ๐Ÿ˜”

bleak osprey
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jen please....

digital crag
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jen needs a beef intervention

visual laurel
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an inter-venison-tion

onyx spoke
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orpheus takes off the robe
orpheus is the buffest character

digital crag
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:(

bleak osprey
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no thats sisyphus

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seriously. based on the models heโ€™s more buff than achilles

harsh sleet
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charon is the buffest-

visual laurel
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achilles is the least buff character

digital crag
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sisyphus has been working out since he died of course he's shredded

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also shades don't have to divide their attention to leg days

shy glade
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wonder if we gonna get pet-able cerberus this update squirtdevious

visual laurel
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i hope so

stark tulip
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woke: RIDEABLE CERBERUS

digital crag
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please let me pet the boy

pliant hinge
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where can I post memes

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about hades

neat crow
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#fan-works probably

harsh sleet
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we gotta get hades on can you pet the dog

bleak osprey
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they were in here at one point, actually

lunar kiln
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elysium update's most expected feature: petting the dog

normal talon
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the true elysium, being able to pet the dog

runic terrace
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that beefy arm? got that way from petting dog

lunar kiln
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playing hades again for the update and i cant believe ive missed such important interactions

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hypnos: oh i guess you could kill me dead

visual laurel
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hypnos: exists
thanatos: perish

runic terrace
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than perish

lunar kiln
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has anyone tried deciphering the characters in than's death circle or is it just gibberish

visual laurel
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gonna guess it's gibberish but i can sneak a peak

lunar kiln
visual laurel
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oh it's ok i have the

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yeah

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ahem. anyways there is a consistent character set it looks like

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but it's not immediately recognizable or anything

neat crow
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What thing are you using nowadays for your dark work, ven, since the old thing no longer works?

visual laurel
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oh it works!

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you just have to fiddle with it.

lunar kiln
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it's mr hades hades telling her secrets

neat crow
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Can you share your thecreth with me?

flint bluff
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Soooo next patch in 8 days?

neat crow
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Yup

visual laurel
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the bigger concern these days is that the FX package will literally get too big to load in

runic terrace
#

EIGHT???????

lunar kiln
#

ate days

#

yep

runic terrace
#

ATE DAYS...........

flint bluff
#

and no image or spoiler so far?

visual laurel
#

other than the email teaser

lunar kiln
#

mystery beef

runic terrace
#

we have beef

neat crow
#

Yeah, all of that, up there upvote

flint bluff
#

what beef?

#

i've been away for too long

lunar kiln
#

the Beef update
shadeembarassed added Beef

visual laurel
#

i don't have it on me

flint bluff
#

oh

#

ok

visual laurel
#

figured someone might get it before me

#

but nope!

neat crow
#

If you scroll up enough to find jan's name (mystery beef) it's in their profile picture

lunar kiln
#

the beef....

neat crow
#

Oh, nevermind, ven got it

visual laurel
#

where's the beef dot jpg

flint bluff
#

ok thnks

visual laurel
#

yeh, if you're not already, sgg sends things out like this in their supergiant blast emails

runic terrace
#

they always ask WHERES the beef...WHOS the beef....they never ask HOWS the beef :'((

visual laurel
#

so you could subscribe

lunar kiln
#

oh i'm sure the beef's doing pretty alright here

runic terrace
#

its dead beef! its fine beef

faint socket
runic terrace
#

yes

#

jen zee presenting concept art to the team: beef? or chicken?

lunar kiln
#

in a week the world gets to discover my new name and profile picture

runic terrace
#

OHO................OHOOOOOOOOOOOO

visual laurel
#

the mods will get a new theme

lunar kiln
#

mods be like

runic terrace
#

okay like im scared now

visual laurel
#

modlysium

lunar kiln
#

"hey can i be his left ankle or something"

visual laurel
#

look

#

there are so many of us

runic terrace
#

[beyonce voice] okay moddies now lets get in formation

visual laurel
#

it's first come first serve

neat crow
#

I'm holding out hope for beefy lady (even though I will probably be let down)

lunar kiln
#

mods assembling voltron with their profile pics

runic terrace
#

jgjkgjkgkgk

visual laurel
#

you joke but

flint bluff
#

they are making exodia

visual laurel
#

again, i know you're joking, but,

#

hey kam do you have those screenshots of the groupchat icons

runic terrace
#

UHHH WHICH

lunar kiln
#

"which"

visual laurel
#

honestly? any of them

#

the ones where the pics lined up just right gkjfgf

runic terrace
lunar kiln
#

i remember the time where everyone was different parts of chaos

visual laurel
#

no no the uhh

#

like the dm groupchats with the diothighsus

runic terrace
#

OH the head and body

#

YEAH just a sec

visual laurel
#

"which" god.

#

i was very disappointed that i came to chaos update so late

#

all the good parts had been taken

runic terrace
visual laurel
#

YEAH that works

runic terrace
lunar kiln
somber gull
#

this has the same energy as those toys on childrens playgrounds where you can spin the animal parts to make something weird

runic terrace
#

YES

faint socket
#

i forgot this concept is a series of emoji in a server i'm in gfdkljfgdlk

runic terrace
#

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

visual laurel
#

update: there are 12 unique characters in the thanatos ring

#

they get repeated; i should number them and write out the whole sequence...

runic terrace
#

oh!!

bleak osprey
#

oh

#

@visual laurel i know exactly which font that is btw

visual laurel
#

gkfdjghfd welp i guess it's a font

#

i'll just put everything away

bleak osprey
#

yeah sorry ;-;

runic terrace
#

hjghjgfjhfhj oh well

visual laurel
#

nah that doesn't surprise me tho i'm more surprised they just used a font instead of making a custom one

lunar kiln
#

plot twist: it reads "made you look"

runic terrace
#

HGBHGHJGHJ

visual laurel
#

double plot twist, sparrow told me about this a while ago and it just didn't register at all

#

answer: it doesn't say anything

bleak osprey
#

[flexes gently in the background]

lunar kiln
digital crag
#

Jfdghx

rapid zinc
#

Ahaajfkgpphkyj5b3bwvhsxf

honest coral
somber gull
#

me

onyx spoke
#

I've always wondered about that image's context but it feels better without it

cerulean yoke
#

Does anybody know what's the deal with Ares face? I mean light part on eye level. I though it's some weird lighting, but watching more closely, it doesn't look like it

neat crow
#

Some variety of war paint, I imagine

digital crag
#

it's paint yeah

visual laurel
#

style

digital crag
#

let's go spartans! let's go!

visual laurel
#

fhfjfhsjfh

grim oracle
#

Hercules hype?

runic terrace
grim oracle
#

MY GOD IT'S THE CAMERATA

lunar kiln
#

BUFF ASHER

#

buff riku but it's asher kendrell

runic terrace
#

yes

rapid zinc
#

I JUST SAW THE KITTY

marsh prawn
#

Hi I just saw the announcement on twitter excited

lunar kiln
#

dawn of the final week

marsh prawn
#

Itโ€™s apollo and his buff cousin big apollo

#

New biome...soon...

digital crag
#

A BOY.....

#

That silhouette is weeeeird

#

I wonder if mystery beef is a cyclops

bleak osprey
#

i think mystery beef is definitely the minotaur

digital crag
#

We always need a horn boy

bleak osprey
#

i'd also like to point out that besides being able to see what looks like a nose ring, the Beefy Boi looks to be wielding an axe, which is commonly associated with the minotaur as they're both symbols of minoan crete

digital crag
#

Mr minotaur plz have this ambrosia

bleak osprey
#

[gets down on one knee] [i am immediately killed by the minotaur]

digital crag
#

Look if small boy is theseus i AM going to punch him in the face

bleak osprey
#

you can't bully a man with no butt, be kind

digital crag
#

buttless loser

#

I can and i will bully him

livid kiln
#

what's wrong with theseus?

digital crag
#

-left his girlfriend on a rock

#

-kidnapped a 12 year old girl

livid kiln
#

that was theseus?

#

WAIT

#

oh YEAAAH

digital crag
#

-attempted kidnap of persephone

livid kiln
#

YEAH HE'S TAKING IT

digital crag
#

Punishment for abduction is forcible removal of buttcheeks

livid kiln
#

I mean, how about being bound to a chair by snakes and injected poison for all eternity?

#

As well as terrorised by the spirits of the undead

digital crag
#

People only remember the butt thing cause it's hilarious

#

Also cause of death being pushed off a cliff by an old guy? Hilarious

livid kiln
#

That'd make sense it's Theseus and Heracles

#

Seeing as the latter frees the former

bleak osprey
#

[raises hand] just wanna point out that theseus wasn't left in the underworld

#

yeah

visual laurel
#

sharp eyes, sparrow, i would've assumed the background was smoke or something tbh ghdjfkg
it's really hard to make sense of that outline

#

if it's the minotaur would theseus be standing that close to it? i mean i know they're associated but is there a reason they would've gone from mortal enemies to...allies, in the afterlife?

#

also why is the minotaur even in elysium just wondering

#

like i guess it could be a monster and handler type deal under special orders from Hades or something...

granite pebble
#

So in conclusion what are the theories now? *Waited ยดtill the heated discussion stops.

sick grove
#

In the last vignette didn't we get Than super close to the new murrrrderers? Yet the characters themselves have very little connection. Im not sure there's a major narrative-correlation between mino and muscles

visual laurel
#

ah, you're right

#

i forgot fhdjfkg

#

then it doesn't have to be theseus or someone related to the minotaur at all

#

can the minotaur like, talk, can we have convos with the minotaur

#

why else would it have a convo sprite

sick grove
#

I feel like we're getting Minotaur as a boss and achille's ex as an npc. BUT it could pull a big ol' twist on me and flip those roles up.

visual laurel
#

yeah i'd figure the minotaur would be a....mid-boss? but i guess it could be a final boss too

#

it'd be a little weird

sour pike
#

just imagine that boss room though, labyrinth themed where the walls change randomly

sick grove
#

It'd be an awesome boss fight.

#

I just really really want the mino to be a talking, tired friend

sour pike
#

I'd be cool with that as well

sick grove
#

But we're probably going to get a big angry nasty smashy smashy boy. Which sounds cool as well.

#

Imagine a move that's a big swing of the axe. It lodges into the ground and there's a big ol' ripple. Lotsa big arcs and swings, maybe falling debris from the ceiling so you've got to pay attention to shadows.

bleak osprey
#

honestly with the pose it looks like the minotaur is about to golf-putt theseus's head off his shoulders (replace names with whatever your theory for New Boys are)

sick grove
#

The cool things is:

bleak osprey
#

also in fairness it took me a couple attempts of Looking to realise it wasn't just smoke

sick grove
#

If mino IS a boss, he gets his own hero portrait, and those are primarily used for dialogue.

bleak osprey
#

it'll be nice having another boss capable of dialogue

sick grove
#

"Oh hello-"
Inane Hydra Hissing

bleak osprey
#

part of my issue with how empty asphodel feels is that the only dialogue with the hydra is zag's little pre-battle quip, and that combined w/ the lack of an encounterable npc in asphodel just makes it feel a lot less satisfying than tartarus

sick grove
#

100% agreed!

stark tulip
#

Even if it was just the tisi type thing where Minotaur only says like, a couple words

marsh prawn
#

Small silhouette is probably apollo

#

Idk if thatโ€™s exactly what you were talking about regarding theseus cause i didnt backread it all

#

But it seems to be wearing a bay leaf crown

#

If thatโ€™s already clear sorry lmao too many messages

stark tulip
#

I still think itโ€™s Sisyphus because of the way the smile is

marsh prawn
#

Itโ€™s the shadow under the chin i think

#

Yeah. Judging by placement on the silhouette, itโ€™s a shadow

#

Cant be sure tho could be anyone

harsh sleet
#

pls say apollo ๐Ÿ™

marsh prawn
#

Looks like apollo at least

onyx spoke
#

apollo sounds likely given the "good day or night"
but that could just be me reading into it a lot

harsh sleet
#

friendship ended with thanatos

#

now apollo is my best friend

#

jk,,,, i still love thanny rooLove

digital crag
#

how could u

harsh sleet
#

now hes never gonna show up in my runs

sick grove
#

I completely ignored the possibility that it's a character we already know that hasn't gotten their hero art. The smile definitely screams Sisyphus, you're right. And those arms? I mean, he's been pushing Bouldy for a long time.

visual laurel
#

they didn't advertise an update with artemis' art when they updated her sprite though...

#

i feel like for their hype game they usually bring new characters

sick grove
#

V v true

visual laurel
#

whoever our man is, he's got some laurels

#

another thing sisyphus wouldn't have, probably

#

could be apollo

sick grove
#

Yeah, I'm feeling like Apollo's a big possibility. That smile alone, plus the laurel.

#

My desire to see Sisyphus' art is clouding my judgment.

visual laurel
#

you're valid

worn matrix
#

Calling it now, its Kratos. Were getting Kratos god boons

digital crag
#

dad boons

#

this boon has won so many boon of the year awards

shrewd arrow
#

Its a minotaur

#

And prob hercales

sour pike
#

Sys's 3d model also has the cloak which new boy doesnt seem to have

#

btu they could update that too i suppose

rapid zinc
#

Theoretically when they update the character portraits they'll give unique outfits, too

tender coral
#

Oh damn, looks like Apollo and Hephaestus to me!

stark tulip
#

like 5 months in and I finally beat the hydra ONCE ๐Ÿ‘

#

I mostly blame me not having any sense of playing safe and rather just punching everything till it dies

vernal tendon
#

hey thats serious dedication, congrats

old frost
#

Congrats!

stark tulip
#

thank you!!

acoustic condor
#

I'm putting money on Apollo

#

And that's definitely a minotaur

visual laurel
#

he doesn't have any visible regalia, though, that's my main hangup

acoustic condor
#

A 3/4 pose looking away from the camera

#

The prognathism, the ring, the big thing at the top is a horn

visual laurel
#

most of the olympians have a symbol with them, a sword or trident or bow

acoustic condor
#

As in top left

#

Did Dionysus get advertised w a symbol

visual laurel
#

yeah

#

his thyrsus

#

not to mention the vines

acoustic condor
#

True true

visual laurel
#

this guy's design isn't busy enough to be a god, i don't think

acoustic condor
#

At the same time Apollo doesn't NEED anything because he's Apollo

#

He's Just That Cool

visual laurel
#

if it were apollo, he'd have a bow or a lyre

acoustic condor
#

He does have something

#

There's something behind him

#

I was trying to figure out if the minotaur was holding something but I think it's just a cloud

visual laurel
#

you can tell what's minotaur and what's the guy in front by the shading

acoustic condor
#

And it's midground so I would associate it with the foreground figure

visual laurel
#

everything in the backdrop is part of the minotaur

acoustic condor
#

No this is a different colour to both of them

visual laurel
#

it's the same

#

i'm pretty sure the minotaur's holding a giant axe

#

you can see his hands wrapped around the handle

acoustic condor
#

That's over the minotaur's shoulder

#

I mean the foreground guy

#

Over his right shoulder there's some random stuff

#

That's not a discernible physical object so it's probably some magic smoke

visual laurel
#

i'm like pretty sure that's part of the minotaur

#

the coloring matches him

devout basin
#

looks like the minotaur's hands on the axe handle to me

acoustic condor
#

How could it be when the axe head is over his shoulder lying horizontally

#

The thing I've circled is vertical with no shaft extending upward or diagonally

#

Actually in lower res there it does look like the same colour

#

But it's not an axe handle

digital crag
#

the axe handle is lower to the left

acoustic condor
#

But there's no connection to the top right

digital crag
#

it's just behind the guy??

visual laurel
digital crag
#

oh ven's on it

acoustic condor
#

Ohhhhhhhhhhh

visual laurel
#

and i'd imagine that "cloud" is just a mess of muscley arms and hands

#

i'm not gonna try to figure it out but

acoustic condor
#

I guess so

#

And nobody guessed minotaur for the biceps huh

#

Or they did and I didn't see it

visual laurel
#

nobody guessed that i saw, nope

frozen jolt
#

wait how did we get to minotaur from the silhouette

visual laurel
#

it's pretty out of left field

digital crag
#

i didn't cause the minotaur is normally furrier tbh

visual laurel
#

he's got horns and a cow nose with a ring

digital crag
#

though i guess the buffness paradox has now been resolved

visual laurel
#

i'm glad i was at least right for thinking it was not a normal mortal level of buffness

digital crag
#

yeah good call

#

achilles remains beefiest of the mortals

visual laurel
#

whoever this new human-shaped guy is is pretty beefy

#

idk he might win

#

unless it really does turn out to be apollo, which i kind of doubt only because his design isn't busy enough

digital crag
#

i just don't think so

#

that power pose is giving off intense insufferably smug vibes though

visual laurel
#

god yeah i wanna punch him in the face

#

i sure hope he's punchable

#

maybe it IS theseus

digital crag
#

once we take a look at this guy we'll understand why achilles is the only warrior guy hired in the hoh

visual laurel
#

the others are all literally resting on their laurels

digital crag
#

hades shopping for a personal trainer for his son: yeah i'll take the depressed washed up old ghost over his insufferable testosterone fueled war buddies

visual laurel
#

the plain design is another reason i don't think it's hercules either, hercules usually has a handful of regalia items that set him apart

#

not to mention his weird "in the underworld but not really" status

digital crag
#

lion

visual laurel
#

yeah lion

#

and the club

#

this dude has neither

#

just a plain old chiton and a belt and some laurels to show he's Special

#

and an aura of smugness

digital crag
#

ugh now i have to like, acknowledge there's a chance of it being theseus but i really hate that because i'm president of the theseus hateclub

visual laurel
#

but he might be punchable!

digital crag
#

imagine anyone being the offspring of this universe's poseidon

visual laurel
#

exactly. surely we can punch theseus, he was complicit in a plot to try to kidnap persephone

digital crag
#

use poseidon wrath on him

#

make his dad punch him for you

visual laurel
#

good.

vast basin
#

its someone singing sweet sweet jazz

rapid zinc
#

Is that Mr. Clean on the left

stark tulip
#

Wait where did we get the promo with the little bit of official art from?

neat crow
#

The SG Blast newsletter

bleak osprey
#

i took the sg blast preview and scaled it up onto the update image

stark tulip
#

ohhhhh okay, forgot we got that lol

fickle flame
#

Do we have any information on the new biome, or is it a big secret?

visual laurel
#

It's Elysium...

#

i think that's about all we know tho

runic terrace
#

yeah i have top secret info shhh cmere ||its gonna be really fun||

fickle flame
#

Was just curious if we knew any enemy types or anything, havent been following super closely

visual laurel
#

nnnope

runic terrace
#

nahhh, those are secret till release!

visual laurel
#

been hush-hush on that front

fickle flame
#

been loving this game, and really stoked for a new biome

runic terrace
#

yesssss me too

visual laurel
#

๐Ÿ‘

#

builds are gonna get wild

fickle flame
#

legendaries may get a bit more common just by virtue of running through the boons more often

stark tulip
#

I heard the new enemies donโ€™t like zag all that much

tardy cedar
#

isn't that the norm?

harsh sleet
#

i can count maybe 4 people in the underworld that like zag

digital crag
#

naaaaaw at least 5 and a half

thorn island
#

dusa, achilles, nyx, cerberus, and ofc meg

#

zag skelly relationship is strictly professional

digital crag
#

i didn't count meg

rapid zinc
#

You forgot ||Than|| and Hypnos

thorn island
#

oh yea than exists

digital crag
#

sisyphus erasure

visual laurel
#

i feel like meg can only count for a half at this point gjdfgfd

lunar kiln
#

she tolerates him

visual laurel
#

yeah.

#

of people who unreservedly like zag, it's probably achilles, nyx, dusa, cerberus, hypnos, sisyphus, and thanatos

#

maybe thanatos should get an asterisk

runic terrace
#

and hypnos!!

#

th*natos

visual laurel
#

thanatos*

*angry at first but highly susceptible to bribes

runic terrace
#

hfjfhjfjhfhj yes

lunar kiln
#

than**os

runic terrace
#

t*******

#

wait

visual laurel
#

***n**o*

runic terrace
#

NO

#

just says no....

lunar kiln
#

tomatos

visual laurel
#

the difference between than and meg is that meg drinks the ambrosia but it's not gonna change her opinion of zag, it's just like, yay free drinks
meanwhile thanatos really doesn't want the ambrosia that much but he appreciates the effort

runic terrace
#

tomato...........

#

meg: do you even like ambrosia
than: not really
meg: so leme have it
than: never

bleak osprey
#

ambrosia = friendship bracelets

runic terrace
#

aaaaaahhh zag stringing together bracelets...

lunar kiln
#

thanatos wears them but he hides them behind his clothes

#

meg just has so much jewelry on her no one notices

runic terrace
#

ghfjhfhjfhj than takes off his big glove and 25 bracelets tumble out

bleak osprey
#

than: ugh zag gave me all these friendship bracelets
meg: so let me have them
than: WHAT NO THEY'RE MINE BACK OFF HE GAVE THEM TO ME >:(

runic terrace
#

thanny hisses like a cat

visual laurel
#

friendship bracelets.......they're those animal-shaped rubber band bracelets we all had back in like early middle school

#

having a bunch was a sign of status.......

runic terrace
#

SILLY BANDZ

#

all along the z in silly bands.....was for zagreus

digital crag
#

oh jhksdf i had those

faint socket
#

oh man.........silly bandz.........

harsh sleet
#

why are we censoring thanatos

runic terrace
#

jskdncnvn he knows what he did
jk its not censir marks so much as asterisks to footnotes

visual laurel
#

yeah i included an asterisk to denote that he has Mixed Feelings abt zag but is susceptible to bribes

digital crag
#

You can't just Not like ambrosia

runic terrace
#

silly bandz..... Such Important Lovely Little Yellow Bottles (of) Ambrosia Distributed (by) Zagreus

lunar kiln
#

silly badz

#

you forgot the n

harsh sleet
#

such important lovely little yellow bottles (of) ambrosia nicely distributed (by) zagreus

runic terrace
#

THANKS

vernal crest
#

Blessed

sweet widget
#

So what do you guys think, ZagreusxThanatos or maybe that spicy ZagreusxAres?

digital crag
#

zagares????

sweet widget
#

Has anyone spoken to hades a thousand times yet btw? I'm curious about the codex entry

visual laurel
#

I think the full thing is on the wiki

sweet widget
#

I see, thanks

runic terrace
#

"this is cat, not dog" comic but THIS IS ALECTO....NOT TISIPHONE when u stand in the wrong defense pattern

onyx spoke
#

late to the zagreus discussion
but I fall in neither

megreus forever

small heron
#

After 16 runs I could beat Megaera haha feels so nice

#

Love the combo Flurry Jab + Lightning Strike

neat crow
#

It's a powerful combo to be sure

small heron
#

Yes! This is how I could beat her after some tries, is so nice to clean the mobs around

neat crow
#

Best of luck with the next boss!

small heron
#

Thanks! Still need to improve a lot ๐Ÿ˜…

oblique kelp
#

Oh damn. Ares does not look how i expected.

digital crag
neat crow
#

Ares looks amazing, in my opinion

rapid zinc
#

I only just now realized Ares has a helmet tucked under his arm

neat crow
#

pennyWhat I don't think I ever noticed that either

oblique kelp
#

One of the first things i noticed ๐Ÿ˜‚

neat crow
#

The colour kind of blends into the armour on the torso and doesn't draw your eye in

digital crag
#

he does not wear the helmet because it would squash his impeccably styled mohawk

#

nobody wants helmet hair

rapid zinc
#

I need to see Ares with helmet hair now ๐Ÿ‘€

small heron
#

What is your fav character right now?

neat crow
#

Artemis and Megaera, probably

small heron
#

Artemis friendly

oblique kelp
#

Beat Fury first try ๐Ÿ˜„

neat crow
#

Now onto the next area! See if you can carry that success on to the (current) final boss

oblique kelp
#

Only my 3rd run, idk that im that good

neat crow
#

You can only try friendly

#

Though if you've already gotten past Megaera on your 3rd run, you're doing exceedingly well

somber gull
#

Possible motives for each Olympian wanting Zag to succeed

#

Athena: hopes he can reunite their family

#

Artemis: Lonely, but hates the rest of the gods, so hoping Zag will finally be the perfect hunting partner that she wants

#

Zeus: pretty sure his only motive is โ€œBecause Hades told me not toโ€

#

Aphrodite: I think sheโ€™s just like... curious? Like I definitely think she wants to make Zag in her own image the way she talks about showing him around town

vernal tendon
#

it seems like zag secretly being a demigod is a big deal, I feel like they wouldn't care nearly as much if they didn't think he was a full god

#

and him leaving to find his mom is his big deception from them right?

candid bear
#

Ares: I want to cause as much carnage as possible

sick grove
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I think a major theme of Hades is Zag trying to find his independence. The god's are all offering him help, but the majority (if not all) are trying to make Zag dependent on them. Those that aren't doing so as intentionally as the others will still get extremely offended when they realize that Zag has lied to them about who he is and his motives for escape.

sweet widget
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Imagine the last boss fight being a random god ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

sick grove
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That's my Big Wish, but I doubt they'd give us so many unique boss fights.

sweet widget
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3 is already hard to balance (judging by the furies :p)

sick grove
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Lately I've been thinking it could be one Boss, with different 'flavors' based upon the god who you've angered the most this run, similar to trial rooms.

sweet widget
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Oooh I like that

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Poseidon infused Scylla

sick grove
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The other big theme of this narrative is family, and by proxy divided familial expectations. I think the gods would be incredibly upset to learn that Zag doesn't actually hate his home, and that he's willing to return to see them. He doesn't want to denounce his relationship with anyone (except maybe a few), and this journey has actively strained his relationships with the people he cares about. In my eyes, he just wants the freedom to go where he pleases, and for others to see him as someone capable of making his own choices.

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Which, is also why I like Sisyphus the most. He's one of the only ones who seems uncaring and overtly supportive of Zag's quest. Most of the other characters in Hades (besides Achilles and possibly Dusa) express disappointment, anger, or doubt in Zag's decisions. Sisyphus is just there to give you a gift to help you along on your journey. Of course, we can't ignore source material. Sisyphus could just be massively manipulating Zag in a 'I scratch your back you scratch mine' kind of way, and I will actively scream NO the day that's realized.

digital crag
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sisyphus is a bro

neat crow
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Nyx is supportive, I'd say

digital crag
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immediately i was like no! not cerberus! but then i was like actually yeah cerb too

sick grove
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Yeah! But she lied for us :X
Not just that big lie, but also lied to the gods. That's what I'm miffed about.
And I don't know how I feel about her manipulating the other side of the family to help us out. I see her actions as something filled with regret, and that doesn't feel as supportive to me.

digital crag
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of course he can't be accused of manipulation he's just a dog

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but he's a very sad dog

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how can you leave your dog behind

sick grove
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Then that makes the cast of selfless support to be Achilles, Sisyphus, Cerb(until Hades sends him off to kill us and bring us home) and Nyx.

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I'm unsure if Dusa deserves to be on the list here, mostly because any support she has is a passive admiration.

neat crow
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I don't recall her expressing an opinion on Zagreus' mission

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Same with Hypnos

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I could be wrong though, it's been a while since I went through their earlier dialog

digital crag
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not all of the characters feel strongly about zag's leaving to the same degree tho

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sisyphus is kinda like... a nice acquaintance in a "oh well i don't really get it but i support whatever it is you're doing" way?

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-sisyphus voice- i don't know what memes are but i'm sure they're neat

sick grove
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Maybe Sisyphus doesn't 100% understand the family conflict behind Zag's choices, but he sure does understand the implications and desire to leave the underworld. What's interesting is that he doesn't express his own desire to leave, but does show support to Zag's journey.

digital crag
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eh i'm not really worried about sisyphus turning out to have ulterior motives

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he gives me the impression that he's.... not all there

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not in a creepy way just in a he's been a ghost for so long he's forgotten pretty much everything about life way

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had all his own desires crushed out of him by bouldy idk

sick grove
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I don't feel the same way. I think he's had a lot of time to think about his choices in life, and that time has kind of eased a lot of his earlier, selfish, in the moment desires. He's had a lot of time to reflect, but I don't like thinking of Sisyphus as an inherently different person than the one he was when he was alive. His actions back then have helped shape who he is now. Or maybe I'm just not big on the concept that this place has somehow 'killed' or made him forget his old personality.

digital crag
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but it's like, to what end

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his punishment is eternal there's no point of rehabilitating him

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(speaking from an in-universe perspective)

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(i mean obvs the original myth wasn't that interested in diving into that deep sisyphus psychology)

sick grove
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I don't think there is an intended 'end', and I don't think an in-universe rehabilitation was ever thought of. I just think this is Supergiant's take on how an awful person can take the time to reflect on their past deeds and turn out to be an okay guy.

digital crag
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maybe when we have elysium we'll get a bit more pondering on the troubling philosophical implications of the concept of an eternal afterlife

sick grove
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I mean, Achilles has depression. He's been here a long time, and he hasn't even sorted his own stuff out. You'd assume he would, but you can't assume with depression.

digital crag
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i've been really hoping it's a thing they'll tackle eventually

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ever since transistor

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the amount of rambling i did about the country is.... oof

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now it's hades and i'm like sgg you can't make another game entirely set in the dang underworld and not talk about this at all

sick grove
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You could say that the gods have this very same psychological problem as well, given that both seem unbound to time

digital crag
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it's not that i think dying kills your old self or erases your personality but the sudden different outlook on, uhh.... unlife can totally change a person's entire worldview

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dang it that was a bad sentence

devout pilot
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i came here thinking id see some spoils for next update or something lol /shrug

sick grove
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Information that's not available to the public build of the game is not shared here, but it is a place to openly discuss the public build of the game in all its details, as well as speculation for what the future updates might hold.

devout isle
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oh baby

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Hercules is dummi thicc

vestal lintel
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hey do you guys know what the term redblood mean?

harsh sleet
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homestuck

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jk itโ€™s bc zag has red blood but the other gods donโ€™t

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because zag isnโ€™t a full god

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alecto is being a bully

bleak osprey
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i mean, first part yes, but โ€œzag isnโ€™t a full godโ€ hasnโ€™t been Confirmed yet has it?

vestal lintel
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huh

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redblood would kinda represent mortality

neat crow
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I think the redblood/half god comments come from the others not knowing that Zag is the son of Hades and Persephone

bleak osprey
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well the โ€œredbloodโ€ thing comes from alecto stabbing zag a lot

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what colour blood someone has is very noticeable after a few wounds

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even she says that sheโ€™s โ€œnever met a god that bleeds red beforeโ€ or something to that effect - like she believes he IS a god, just a weird one

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but yeah the olympians are under the impression zag is the son of hades and nyx, so perhaps the personification of night does not count as a god for parentage status so far as theyโ€™re concerned

vestal lintel
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i wonder if this might relate to the whole zag/dio thing

thin silo
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Where was it that the Greek gods bleed gold? Was it PJ?

bleak osprey
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lots of places

thin silo
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Huh, okay. Been assuming since that they do :p

bleak osprey
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including the original myth

thin silo
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Oh what, really?

bleak osprey
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the gods had ichor instead of blood, and it was described as a golden fluid

snow brook
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I mean technically it is Ichor I think

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Yeah you got it

thin silo
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Oh sweet

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Well thanks for telling me! Itโ€™d been bugging me why I thought that ๐Ÿ˜„

vestal lintel
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i hope zag gets duel wielding akimbo uzi's

onyx spoke
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hades: "What are those...things, boy?"
zag: dual wielding uzi's "Oh, these? I call this one Des, and this one Troy. You see, when you put them together, they destroy."

vestal lintel
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for real tho

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i want a weapon that gives Zag snatch

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like a chain or something

onyx spoke
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I would say a chain-sickle but that's more of a japanese weapon

vestal lintel
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i mean

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the game has gun

onyx spoke
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and mcdonald's

vestal lintel
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say it was imported from another land of gods

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set up for hades's sequel susano-o

vernal tendon
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i think nyx is listed under the chthonic gods in the codex (dont have game open to check) so achilles at least considers her one

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and in the original myth shes a primordial god I believe, so while shes not part of the pantheon it'd be weird to only consider her kids half-gods, at least not in a half-mortal sense

candid bear
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So we know Zag doesnโ€™t have Ichor-en his veins

digital crag
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i'd say make the demeter themed weapon a boomeranging scythe projectile but the shield is already kinda a boomerang

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i love hurty thing on a chain though

muted cipher
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Your pun isnโ€™t getting enough appreciation, ichoren

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But it made me laugh xD

candid bear
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I do what I can

vestal lintel
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a weapon that can summon ads would be cool

visual laurel
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ad blocker minus
it's like ad blocker plus, but the opposite

digital crag
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replaces content with ads

visual laurel
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"pomegranate cleanse, now with more a n t i o x i d a n t s"

vestal lintel
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funny joke

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but like a scythe that can summon bone dudes could be cool

visual laurel
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"can't get across the river styx because your neglectful family members didn't give you an obol? call 1-800-ELYSIUM-NOW to discuss short-term loan options"

digital crag
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than lets you borrow his scythe

visual laurel
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thanatos can't give us his scythe for the same reason charon can't just take us to the surface

digital crag
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"than how do you deal 9999 damage with this"
"oh that's just my death powers did you think it was the scythe"

visual laurel
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hahaha the scythe is just there for ornamentation

digital crag
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you have the scythe but all you can do is swing it around and clobber things

visual laurel
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like everything else

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it's not even sharp

neat crow
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And it's not even sharp

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Ha ha ven

visual laurel
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eyyy

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that explains how than can do all those fancy tricks with it

neat crow
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Exactly

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Maybe it's not even metal. Maybe it's a prop blade

visual laurel
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"why do you have a sword if you never use it"
"it's ornamental"
"....why do you have a scythe if it's not even sharp"
"did you not hear me the first time?"

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"why do you wear those ridiculous dog skulls if they aren't shooting fire at your enemies"
"ok, than, i get it"

digital crag
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.....can they please shoot fire at enemies

neat crow
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Can they just do a bite if enemies get close?

visual laurel
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sgg i would like to suggest an "attack of opportunity" mechanic

digital crag
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nommed by shoulder dogs.......

visual laurel
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in which an enemy in retreat takes a free attack from zag's skull pauldron

runic terrace
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oh very good read in here

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u borrow thannys scythe and use it as a bridge across the river

visual laurel
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sorry i'm still laughing imagining payday loan places lining the banks of the styx

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it speaks to the suburbanite in me who watched strip malls get gutted and replaced with loan places gkgdfgdf

neat crow
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Hermes' Helping Hand - Deathday loans for discerning shades

visual laurel
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kgjdfhgkdfhkgdjdf god

digital crag
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"how do i use this" "you have to say you're already dead"

visual laurel
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more evidence that than is a closet weeb

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gets inordinately mad when people think that's from jojo

runic terrace
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JXKFJFJG YES

digital crag
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jojo invented anime don't you know

visual laurel
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jojo of the north star

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๐Ÿค” fist of the jojo star?

cold canopy
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fist of the joestar

visual laurel
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AA

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YOU'RE RIGHT OF COURSE

runic terrace
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jo of the joerth star

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YES

cold canopy
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jo of the joerth joe

visual laurel
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jojo jo joe jojo joe

runic terrace
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jo jo jo

digital crag
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jo of the jorts

runic terrace
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VEN BEAT ME

visual laurel
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ok this is out of hand now

neat crow
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So... How about them Hades Spoilers

visual laurel
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yes anyways

neat crow
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We know what the third area will be, but what I really want to know is what the fourth area will be

runic terrace
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styx mall

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thats where the hot topic is

visual laurel
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i mean....only one more place to go...

neat crow
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Oh?

digital crag
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my humble pipe dream is an odyssey inspired ocean level

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all boat

visual laurel
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no items

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final destination

digital crag
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gun only

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moot point now but i wonder how they were even planning to release elysium in two parts originally

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just like..... half an elysium??

runic terrace
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i figured itdve been just the fightingy bits w no characters

digital crag
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you get elysium but there's no boss and all the sprites are sketchy

runic terrace
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jhghjfhj yeah

digital crag
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the final boss is just a hooded sprite and a generic free unity model

neat crow
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Or stop at mid boss, if there is one, and then second part would have been the second half with the boss?

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Every other biome has a mid-boss so Elysium should as well

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But yeah, moot point

digital crag
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you get one bicep

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other bicep not ready yet

visual laurel
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elysium but everything is just the hooded shade npc

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including the enemies

digital crag
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minotaur rushing towards you in t-pose

visual laurel
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gkdfjhgkdf

digital crag
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terrifying

visual laurel
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much scarier than the alternative

digital crag
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voice acting isn't done so it's all just temporary voices from michael

neat crow
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Just missing texture icons for all the enemies

visual laurel
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๐Ÿ˜ฑ that's the scariest suggestion yet

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all enemies replaced by missingno

runic terrace
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glitchlysium....

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I Dont Seeum

digital crag
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no giant's playing hades which means

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either they stayed on a good schedule this time and are getting plenty of sleep

visual laurel
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it means it's saturday jan

digital crag
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.....or crunch time hasn't started yet

visual laurel
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i hope they're not at work right now gkdfjgfd

digital crag
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i only wish good sleeping schedules for them

visual laurel
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but fr i'm sure having two months for this update has taken some pressure off

oblique kelp
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Dear god that hydra

oblique kelp
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Question, why not have ares symbol the symbol of war?

bleak osprey
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? what symbol of war?

oblique kelp
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The greek symbol of war

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It means omega but seems like its associated with Ares a lot

bleak osprey
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this isnโ€™t god of war

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seriously, god of war is the only place i can see where ฮฉ is a โ€œsymbol of warโ€

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itโ€™s just the last letter of the greek alphabet

finite jay
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probably a stylistic choice they used in god of war to symbolize war being the 'end', but not part of classical greek canon

bleak osprey
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and also because itโ€™s the gameโ€™s logo.

finite jay
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never played a single god of war game so i didnt know that GWjiangoOmegaLUL good to know

harsh sleet
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zagreus for smash

candid bear
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Omega represents how far out of my way I will go to avoid an ares boon

sweet widget
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Ares is great! squirtooh

lunar kiln
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damn the aresphobia on here

atomic forge
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lol

harsh sleet
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theres 1 ares boon i like

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sorry ares GWqlabsMmSad

candid bear
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"yea ares, I know that my attacks do massive damage later, but why can't they do massive damage NOW?" -zag

fast idol
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idk I like Ares on bow

lunar kiln
drifting citrus
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LMAO

harsh sleet
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did u make that just for the meme

neat crow
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Clearly anyone who doesn't like Ares hasn't played with Dire Misfortune and Curse of Longing