h1-story-discussion

[ember goblet]

oh dang than I was lied to

XD

im sad

[neat crow]

I don't think the game itself lied to you, if that's what you're meaning? At no point does the game promise you further dialog along that line, though who knows, they may add that in later

Early Access and all that

[ember goblet]

no i was talking to someone about it

and they said it worked

XD

[neat crow]

Oh, gotcha

Then yes

B E T R A Y E D

[chrome stratus]

Speaking of Meg, where does she go after Alecto and Tissy replace her.
I'm starting to miss seeing her.

[neat crow]

She's having some self-care time #GiveMegABreak

[chrome stratus]

But I want her to talk to her crazy sisters for me.

I don't like them. They're crazy.

[rapid zinc]

Chaos trinket has a line from Zag, though not dialogue. When he enters a Chaos Gate, he normally makes some remark along the lines of "this is gonna hurt" but when you have 🌌 🥚 equipped, he sometimes says "Master Chaos's keepsake will protect me"

[frail thicket]

i haven't been able to play and cant seem to find anything with a quick google - what are the duo boons exactly?

[visual laurel]

They're boons that add the powers of one god to another god's boon that you already have

They're only for specific boons and specific pairs of gods

I imagine the system will expand

[frail thicket]

so you can have two gods on one ability now? that's cool

[neat crow]

Not exactly, but kind of, yes

[visual laurel]

yeah it's not like

it's not like taking two existing boons and layering them on the same ability

it's like you already have one boon on an ability, and then you get a little boost to it

[rapid zinc]

Example: Athena and Artemis's duo boon is ||After a succesful deflect, deal critical damage for 2 seconds||

[neat crow]

Example: Enemies with Weak applied can have X more stacks of Blight Wine applied

[frail thicket]

yeah nice, that's really cool

thanks guys

[atomic forge]

the flavor of having all the furies is nice

but Tisiphone is the worst imho

Alecto is fine

[zenith lichen]

This is a big depate

Tisi or alecto, i think tisi is way easier than Alecto 🤔

[spare hawk]

Alecto is easier. Just rage along with her.

[gusty moss]

Lol

Meg still fav fury

Even if she’s the hardest

[spare hawk]

Hands Down

[gusty moss]

Alecto is more erratic in her movements, so I find her a bit harder to predict, so I say she’s harder than tisi

[zenith lichen]

Tisi is pretty much a cakewalk

They even nerfed her in this mini patch right 🤔

[north sand]

Tisi’s projectile patterns are quite hard to dodge IMO

[zenith lichen]

But

you can just destroy the projectiles

[north sand]

still can figure out a reliable way to dodge

not that EZ I reckon

[zenith lichen]

Dash over them

😄

[north sand]

just dodge LOOOOL 4Head

[zenith lichen]

Essentially yes

WIth no heat the projectiles are quite slow 🤔

[gusty moss]

Yah

Or maybe an Athena boon for reflecting

[north sand]

I dunno sometimes I’ll still get hit when dashing through her projectiles

[zenith lichen]

DASH HARDER

[north sand]

perhaps the space between the barrages are small

they got like a heart-shaped pattern

[zenith lichen]

Murder hearts

[marsh prawn]

@north sand havent faced them yet but so far in my experience the secret to succes is: always dash hit forever

But i run spear almost always so not the best advice out there im afraid

Good luck!

[north sand]

I’m still not sure whether I like the new furies or not

they’re too fast paced when compared to Meg and Hydra

[marsh prawn]

I feel like they add some new challenge to the game which is nice. Not in a 2ez4me way

But in a now that i know how this goes, how can we add new ways to play

Which is fun but then again still havent faced them so i might end up regretting those words

[north sand]

the old bosses are more “tactical” per se

the new olds feel like more of a DPS race

I dunno

[alpine cipher]

the zeus related duo powers can be a little

iffy

since they can rely on mechanics you might not have access to to proc

[harsh sleet]

another day... another try at beating the hydra

[lunar kiln]

Let's get this onion fellas

[harsh sleet]

i need to not be coughing ever 5 seconds first tho omg help

every*

[harsh sleet]

i left my game just before the fury room

so now im,, at 10 hp bc i wasnt mentally prepared to be called a murderer and have the walls close in on me

[zenith lichen]

[north sand]

what if you didn’t random Tisi

[harsh sleet]

nah im just saying that i did when i went into the room

shes the only one i have trouble with

[north sand]

oh OOPS

[harsh sleet]

ach

i didnt even make it to hydra

darn boat rooms

[north sand]

got any heat on da run?

[harsh sleet]

i havent beat the hydra yet

[north sand]

ohh...

sorry m8

[harsh sleet]

its ok

lmaoo

i suck at video games but boy do i love em

[north sand]

Rahroo subs monkaS

[harsh sleet]

i- nyx just told dusa not to talk to me

[visual laurel]

yeah. i have my own thoughts about that but i guess we won't rly know unless nyx decides to tell us

[harsh sleet]

but i love her..

[visual laurel]

my guess would be nyx is trying to keep dusa out of trouble

[north sand]

hi..hi prince!

[harsh sleet]

i guess but it feels so .. mean

[visual laurel]

you know that trope in tv shows where the hero is like about to get involved in something dangerous and they turn to their optimistic follower / fan and tell them to go away and lots of other mean stuff bc it's the only way to make sure the point hits home

like uhhhh incredibles! i mean the kid in incredibles was obnoxious but. that's just the first one that comes to mind gkjdfgfd

[runic terrace]

ahhhh yeah

[harsh sleet]

idk why i thought of hercules i think the greek gods are getting to me

[runic terrace]

hfvhjfvhjfvhjfvhjfvhj the megagorgon is dusas secret identity

[north sand]

@runic terrace monkaS

[runic terrace]

shes mad she has to stay home shes trying to prove herself

i...dont know what that means

[visual laurel]

it's a pepe meme apparently

[runic terrace]

oh

[north sand]

oh OOPS

[harsh sleet]

its twitch talk

[visual laurel]

we aren't twitch streamers we don't know the lingo gkdfjgfd

[runic terrace]

YEAH HJFJFJ

its ok whenever i try to find the picture i always google "blease" by mistake

[north sand]

LUL

[runic terrace]

anyway yeah one day dusas getting the strength to be like s- so prince isnt the megagorgon really cool and stuff???

[north sand]

and Zag will say he hates the gorgan and broke Dusa’s heart

[runic terrace]

ugh, sorry dusa, i know thats probably your sister or something out there but she's a real pain. can you tell her to back off next you see her?
u- uh- oh um i- im, sorry you feel that way! i have to go

[north sand]

oh @runic terrace that’s GREAT

what if Skelly is the forgotten head of Hydra

“I always come back, Boyo!”

[runic terrace]

can i say something about skelly? hello i have a complaint about skelly, and its that he grew on me and i like him now.

[north sand]

aww

[harsh sleet]

ive always liked him!! hes a funky man

[runic terrace]

no matter how annoying he is like.......i see him every time i pass through my heart couldnt help but warm!!!!

of course ill beat you up skelly you funky little man!!!

[north sand]

is it just me or does it feels weird how Zag’s weapon dies with him but it is all the way at the armoury

kinda wish there’s a reason for that

[quartz ibex]

https://i.imgur.com/bMJBWHb.jpg

[north sand]

DOUBLE oh boy

[restive elk]

Lucky

[quartz ibex]

I think ive seen all the duos currently in the game now

[north sand]

man I kinda wish there’s a list for that

[quartz ibex]

Im sure the wiki will be updated eventually

[north sand]

yeah I reckon

[runic terrace]

sparrow hasnt gotten a chance to play yet and they update the wiki most frequently

please have patience

[north sand]

oh nice

[runic terrace]

yeah, the wiki doesnt just magically appear! it takes effort and dedication 💪 🐦

[quartz ibex]

but yeah I think the only duo blessing I havent seen myself is the zeus/poseidon one?

[north sand]

yeah I saw that one!

that’s a good one

[quartz ibex]

seems pretty good yea

[north sand]

too bad most of poseidon’s boons are bad against bosses

they’re the most fun IMO

[quartz ibex]

ye

btw what are the rules on posting stuff about new aspects of the game in #hades-feedback ?

should I use spoiler tags?

[north sand]

there’s no need to use spoiler tags on feedback

[quartz ibex]

alright

is balance feedback allowed?

[visual laurel]

yep

[north sand]

just be direct and clear

[quartz ibex]

cool thanks

[north sand]

cheers m8

[harsh sleet]

please give me thanatos this run 🙏

[visual laurel]

🙏

[harsh sleet]

sisyphus i love you

[runic terrace]

sisiphus:

[harsh sleet]

hes so cute

[sleek cape]

Bouldy

Best character

[lunar kiln]

ok but

than x sisyphus

[harsh sleet]

i could

i could get into that

AAAA

I GOT THE APHRODITE SCROLL

im so happy

[amber canyon]

Now we need a shirtless calender of all the male gods

[harsh sleet]

sgfdjkg

[amber canyon]

Except Zeus

Because no

[harsh sleet]

i didnt live long enough to report the thing ive been getting

when fighting hydra with the shield the background like

glitches?

it moves down and its di s tr a cting

but its only w the big hydra head

[north sand]

@amber canyon I though most of the gods are already shirtless

[visual laurel]

only half shirtless, lol

[marsh prawn]

Only one (1) ☝️

One allowed

[north sand]

like Poseidon is literally topless

[visual laurel]

oh yes i forgot about him

[marsh prawn]

Poseidon left his jersey at the frat house

[harsh sleet]

f

frat house

[marsh prawn]

I post that here in spoilers since it’ll be revealed in upcoming patches

[harsh sleet]

ty,,, i -

[marsh prawn]

Quest: get poseidons jersey back

[rapid zinc]

Your name, ty 👌

[marsh prawn]

Retrieve poseidons letterman jacket

[harsh sleet]

pl e ase

[marsh prawn]

Thanks i worked very hard on it

[north sand]

“Thank you! Little Hades!”

[marsh prawn]

Hype poseidon before the big game

This is also a spoiler

The Big Game. Sshh. Dont tell, its a secret

[harsh sleet]

hades but they all have 'tables' like in high school movies

[north sand]

@ everyone The Big Game update is here Kappa

[marsh prawn]

What team

[harsh sleet]

WILDCATS-

[marsh prawn]

Ssshhh its a secret we cant tell or well be kicked to offtopic

[visual laurel]

👀

[harsh sleet]

i had to do it

i tried to stop myself

[marsh prawn]

Anyway i hope alecto comes to kick me to offtopic soon

[harsh sleet]

alecto is the fury ive seen least

[visual laurel]

is thanatos' skull belt not good enough for you

[harsh sleet]

it upsets me shes hot

[marsh prawn]

I love thanatos’ skull belt

[harsh sleet]

I love Thanatos

[marsh prawn]

It’s mildly concerned but enjoys the situation nonetheless

[north sand]

I’ve seen Tisi in like 4 times in a row

[visual laurel]

wow...

i got meg like four times in a row but i was grateful for it cuz i got to see all her new lines

tisi obviously doesn't have that upside

[marsh prawn]

I only get Meg but its okay i like her

[harsh sleet]

m u r d errrrreeeerrrrr

[north sand]

@visual laurel you know I also got a chance to enjoy the new lines

[visual laurel]

ah yes
mmmmmmmmmm

[north sand]

really digging the mmmmmmurder

[marsh prawn]

Are hypnos’ quotes about meg being pretty and such new? I cant remember them from my 838472849472748393747 runs before laptop install

[north sand]

well you know the rest @visual laurel

[visual laurel]

i do !

uhhhhhhh which ones?

oh

[north sand]

let me guess?

[visual laurel]

no those aren't new

[marsh prawn]

Sorry i edited becaus brain is dead

[north sand]

murder or murderer?

[marsh prawn]

Okay no spoilers then

[visual laurel]

well let me flip a coin

[harsh sleet]

hypnos is on the geek table

change my mind

[marsh prawn]

Hypnos is on the jock table in disguise

Because zag is there reading poetry as he does

Tisi only has murder and murderer as lines? I love her

[north sand]

well she also got mmmmmmmn

[harsh sleet]

me too bro

[north sand]

yeah three lines

[marsh prawn]

Oh nice cliffhanger

[north sand]

really makes you think, no?

[marsh prawn]

Makes you wonder

[north sand]

“which of the three words will Tisi say?”

It is A murder?

or B murderer?

or C just mmmmm

[harsh sleet]

tisi's haiku
murder murderer
murderer mmmmurderer
murderer.. mmmmmmm mmmmmm

[north sand]

that’s a classic poem like the ones from orpheus

such artistic point of view

[harsh sleet]

true art..

[north sand]

I bet Skelly will enjoy it

oh no Tisi is here

hide your off-topic memes everyone

[harsh sleet]

[north sand]

hush beware the furies

[harsh sleet]

i misread furies every time

[frozen jolt]

I wish I had that tisi emote

[harsh sleet]

i wanna draw thanatos so bad but im goin through an art block

i did try yesterday but i got frustrated ksksgfdj

[marsh prawn]

Draw him

Channel his backstreetpersona

[harsh sleet]

i drew him.. in a turtleneck..

[marsh prawn]

Again

[harsh sleet]

backstreets back alright

[marsh prawn]

I keep deawing hypnos in my clothes sorry universe

Than is back alright

I wish than was back in my game but no such luck. Than come home

[harsh sleet]

ok me

ever since they increased his encounter rate

hes been gone

hes too busy in other peoples games :(

[hollow atlas]

How do the duo boons... work? I haven't found one yet. Like, is the symbol on the door like a Zeus/Poseidon mashup like a trial of the Gods? Or does it look like a regular Zeus boon but then you accept it and there is a Duo option? Do you have to have a boon from each of the two gods before you get offered a Duo?

[visual laurel]

They're offered like regular boons

If you have the prerequisite boon and get lucky, they'll show

There seems to be some RNG weighting towards getting duo boons, too

[hollow atlas]

So, it is one of the normal three options when you accept?

[maiden cairn]

yes, like it appears as a zeus OR dio symbol

then you open it and the duo boon is one of them

[dense nexus]

Do they release any details on what's planned for the next update?

[hollow atlas]

Okay, cool.

[maiden cairn]

theres a roadmap in game

[dense nexus]

Kind of curious when they're going to add the next region

[hollow atlas]

Next update is the new Biome.

[visual laurel]

two months from now

[dense nexus]

Oh nice.

[hollow atlas]

May 7th I think?

[dense nexus]

Maybe I'll use this time to actually finish Pyre.

[hollow atlas]

Or 14th? Something like that.

[dense nexus]

Just curious, but do they have global stats on things like weapon most used or weapon most won with?

Not just for my games, but for everyone.

[visual laurel]

Don't think so

[dense nexus]

Dang, that'd be really cool to see. I just finished my first time with the spear.

[maiden cairn]

sounds like a cool thing to have but idk if it makes sense to add before 1.0

with weapons constantly being tweaked

[dense nexus]

I disagree. Honestly, I think it could give the devs insight on what's used the least, so they know what needs to be reworked.

They may already get that information anyways, I really don't know.

[maiden cairn]

ye that makes sense

id like more personal stats like longest perfect clear streak, highest dmg, etc

[dense nexus]

Both would be cool to have.

[harsh sleet]

are there any other scrolls? ive got achilles and aphrodite

like.. is there a list

i want them all..

[north sand]

nay just 2 for now

would love more room decro in the future

[frozen jolt]

there is the scrying pool and trojan arms tho

[harsh sleet]

heck yea

[frozen jolt]

but they’re cheaper than both the scrolls so you’ve probably already gotten them

[harsh sleet]

ive decked out my room in full 😎

sometimes i wonder how my own typos happen

[rare torrent]

Dionysus poster when

[harsh sleet]

thanatos poster when

[tribal aspen]

Oh yeah a Dionysus party poster, I like that

Also, letter from a certain ssssssecret admirer when?

I really want there to be more conversations with Dusa

[runic terrace]

dio poster yesss

[north sand]

more when

[harsh sleet]

thanatos where are you

[atomic forge]

havnt seen our boy yet

did like 25 runs xD

[harsh sleet]

i havent seen him since they upped his encounter rate

which is

exactly my luck

[atomic forge]

hahaa]

holy hell

i'

also havnt seen meg

since the other 2 showed up

[harsh sleet]

aw

i get meg alot

alecto is the one ive seen least

[sleek cape]

I've gotten meg like a supermajority of the time

Kinda annoying

[atomic forge]

i've seen alecto and tisi the most

i havnt gotten meg once

since tisi showed up

[harsh sleet]

woo got my second duo

athena and artemis

[fast idol]

oh I only ever got Dion and Aph

[harsh sleet]

that was my first one

HES HERE

!!!!!

[atomic forge]

nide

i got like 3

zeus dio, artemis athena, artemis ares

[harsh sleet]

I BEAT HIM

omg

ok the athena/artemis boon is op

Im so happy

this is a good run

[shrewd arrow]

zeus dio op

We need a poseidon zeus duo power

"Stormy Seas"

Knocking back enemies will supercharge them with electricity, spreading chain lightning to all enemies the knocked back enemy hits

[rapid zinc]

Good news! We have one

[shrewd arrow]

wait what

what does it do

[rapid zinc]

Knocking enemies back strikes them with lightning

[shrewd arrow]

wi

s

nice

Ok then.... Ares + Aphrodite?

bet that one doesnt exist

[rapid zinc]

Curse refreshes if it damages weak enemies (I think. I may have imagined that one)

[harsh sleet]

we had a list of all 6

[shrewd arrow]

woas

wowwowoww

also quick question about this server

[harsh sleet]

1. Zeus + Dio
2. Athena + Artemis
3. Ares + Artemis
4. Zeus + Poseidon
5. Aphrodite + Dio
6. Aphrodite + Ares

[rapid zinc]

What's your question

[shrewd arrow]

why can we not talk about affairs and stuff ||(e.g: zeus smashing hera)|| but aphordite is literally nude??

isnt hades audience older

[visual laurel]

Her nudity isn't an excuse to be gross, first off
And it's not about the server being family friendly or anything, it's about it being accessible and appropriate

[harsh sleet]

aphrodite,,,, pretty lady

[marsh prawn]

The server is supposed to be accessible to people for all ages and female nudity in any case isn’t a uuhuhu teeheehee affair me thinks

[harsh sleet]

her boons are my favourite

[visual laurel]

You can mention affairs of course but don't be gross about it and use common sense

[shrewd arrow]

hm ok

[visual laurel]

This is a public space with like 10,000 people in it that you don't know

[marsh prawn]

Of all ages not for all ages oopsie

[shrewd arrow]

makes sense ty

[visual laurel]

Would you talk like that in a place with 10,000 strangers?

[harsh sleet]

yall i rlly think i have a chance at the hydra im excited

do you get a boat room every run,,

[marsh prawn]

Good luck syd

[harsh sleet]

bc if so then im screwed

[visual laurel]

no, not every run

[harsh sleet]

[visual laurel]

Though it's usually hard to avoid at least one boss room in asphodel

[harsh sleet]

thanatos bless me please

[maiden cairn]

boat run is the 'elite' fight i guess

[marsh prawn]

Dont think you want a thanatos blessed tho

[maiden cairn]

theres others you can get instead

[marsh prawn]

Thanatos: then perish

[harsh sleet]

i hope i get the gorgon fight

its easier than getting mobbed on a boat

[maiden cairn]

idk which i take less damage on

i def take a skullcrusher to the dome more often than not on the gorgon

[atomic forge]

oof

gorgon int bad

the skullcrusher hurts like a truck

[maiden cairn]

ye i rly am bad about dodging gorgon shots

their grey colour is just hard for me to read

idk if thats intentional difficulty

but they're stealthy to me

[stark tulip]

When ur on the boat and like get 3 invincible shield guys 3 louts and a bunch of bloodless

Ohno

[marsh prawn]

All I know is that once I reach Asphodel

There isn’t a second I’m not dodging

It’s Dodgetown

[maiden cairn]

p much

[marsh prawn]

Pro strat: dodge

[maiden cairn]

the addition of wave-makers made the boat a lot more perilous

[marsh prawn]

Hypnos kept telling me and one day I listened and it worked

Wave makers scared me a little wasnt expecting them

[maiden cairn]

ye the wavey hydra heads taking some getting used to as well

fire clear across the map

[harsh sleet]

wave makers make me a n g e r y

bros i got the gorgon room... i think this might be the run

[maiden cairn]

[harsh sleet]

i

...

i got the boat room too..

[maiden cairn]

o

i thought those were alternates

[lunar kiln]

thanatos spawns in the boat chamber and it's revealed he has motion sickness and just leaves. no one spawns, it's a free ride

[harsh sleet]

is that

[restive elk]

Nope

[harsh sleet]

is that canon bc im crying

darn

[restive elk]

There is no freerides for those boons baby

[harsh sleet]

thats adorable tho and i love him

ok guys

next room is hydra room

wish me luck

[restive elk]

Crush that snek

[marsh prawn]

good luck

[harsh sleet]

I DID IT

AAAAAQA

[honest coral]

STEP ON SNEK

[harsh sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/366647747949887500/556152026929692673/unknown.png

[honest coral]

Nice job syd

[restive elk]

...

[harsh sleet]

THOSE boons are the best ive gotten

[mossy spear]

good job 😛

[harsh sleet]

aaaaah im so happy

[honest coral]

deadly reversal

[harsh sleet]

time to die

[restive elk]

Minotaur rush.

[visual laurel]

CONGRATS

[restive elk]

Freaking minotaur dash

[harsh sleet]

[restive elk]

Absolute madman

[harsh sleet]

ty!!!!

[mossy spear]

i know this isn't feedback, but anyone try the spear on hydra since the previous update? the one that reduced the exta damage on vicious skewer to 20% instead of 50%?

it states it "fixed" the hydra's hitbox, but i can't seem to trigger the back attack anymore with the special, on the hydra heads

i'm gonna try once more but it seemed like i couldn't

[harsh sleet]

i was also too focused on winning that i couldnt report,,, the bug ive been experiencing wow,,,,

oh thats weird

[restive elk]

Hm about bugs... I thought that carmed fury is a big one...

[mossy spear]

i noticed because i was used to crazy damage numbers from back attack damage + vicious skewer guaranteed crit on the spear

[restive elk]

But there is nothing about that in the patchnotes...

[mossy spear]

carmed fury? wut

[marsh prawn]

Congrats syd

[restive elk]

You can carm Tissy with Apro's legendary

She does no attack

[harsh sleet]

thank u

[mossy spear]

you mean charm?

[restive elk]

Yep

[mossy spear]

i'm pretty sure the patch said you can now charm bosses

again

[bleak osprey]

yep, that's in the patch notes

[restive elk]

Well

[feral hamlet]

I hope there will be more actual Mythological Greek monsters tho

[restive elk]

Tissy was glitching around the room like crazy -_-

So i thought it's a bug

_<

Why thooo

[digital crag]

Most monsters are just like

Horses

[feral hamlet]

True tho

[digital crag]

Half horse half other animal

[harsh sleet]

i think i might

not use the pact for now

[digital crag]

Is this a horse fighting game

[feral hamlet]

There's monsters like Charybde and Scylla

and their children

[maiden cairn]

i didnt use the pact until several wins with all weapons, plus everything unlocked in the table

[feral hamlet]

Anyway, excuse me for my poor talking skills, i am a baguette speaker and i do suck in english

[mossy spear]

speculation: what if Cerberus is gonna be one of the bosses, since he is the gatekeeper? xD

[feral hamlet]

Oooooh

I'd love that

[mossy spear]

it'd be a pretty dramatic twist

[frozen jolt]

ur english doesnt suck, dont worry

[mossy spear]

having to fight your doggo

[feral hamlet]

Thanks mate

[frozen jolt]

i wouldnt wanna fight my doggo :(

[feral hamlet]

Actually that could be a great dramatic twist

[frozen jolt]

[mossy spear]

another dramatic twist:

[feral hamlet]

since Cerb is one of the most pleasant npc

and friendly

[mossy spear]

One of the bosses in Elysium is Patrocles

[harsh sleet]

what if u have full hearts w him tho

[mossy spear]

that'd be a pretty dramatic twist too, considering Achilles

[frozen jolt]

also irt pact it rlly is the best to not use it until u feel youre ready, like if youve beaten the game enough that you feel confident in your ability to do that

[harsh sleet]

owch

[feral hamlet]

Actually they've include all of the three Fury sisters, they might add the Water Abomination from Phaedra

[frozen jolt]

for 15 heat i just did max convenience fee which is easy

[feral hamlet]

Or i dunno

things like that

[harsh sleet]

it was luck that i beat hydra

[feral hamlet]

Nemee's Lion

[harsh sleet]

i suck at video games

[maiden cairn]

i actually prefer max spawnrate to convenience fee

[mossy spear]

I'm at 60 HEAT

[feral hamlet]

I beat hydra like, really easily except if i am more than 10 heat lmao 😂

[mossy spear]

120 is kinda outa my league lol

[feral hamlet]

Boy.

i'm only 10 heat

😂

[mossy spear]

but after playing with 60 the game without heat, i can consistently beat it

[frozen jolt]

yeahhh im not looking forward to that

[mossy spear]

it's like dbz gravity training

[feral hamlet]

yeah right

[digital crag]

I will accept nemean lion if it's a bone lion

[feral hamlet]

Y'all call him vegeta

[maiden cairn]

ye i can streak after beating 30 heat

[feral hamlet]

same janatos

[maiden cairn]

i did up to 7 then got bored and went back to heats

[feral hamlet]

They could add the titans maybe

[mossy spear]

fragments of titans

[feral hamlet]

the titan's corpses

yeah !

such as good old Chronos

Or they can add Ulysse's foes through the Odyssee

[mossy spear]

also, anyone else think Zagreus is also kind of a prick?

[feral hamlet]

huh

[mossy spear]

a loveable prick but a prick nonetheless lol

[feral hamlet]

what is a prick ?

( sorry lmfao )

[mossy spear]

he's not very considerate of his father's position, let's say that

[feral hamlet]

oh.

[mossy spear]

i kinda sympathise with Hades

[feral hamlet]

me too actually

[mossy spear]

oh what words are considered bad?

[frozen jolt]

sorry you were fine gervais, the proxy just catches that word unfortunately

[feral hamlet]

c- ocky / was the bad sword

word*

sorry bot

[frozen jolt]

is there any synonym for it? i cant think of one

help me english speakers

[digital crag]

smug

[feral hamlet]

Actually i didn't know that was a bad word

[mossy spear]

the fates screwed him with ruling the underworld, then his family just living it up up on Olymus, just being total idiots in general, Hades is probably one of the only gods that does his job diligently, out of the first generation

[feral hamlet]

yeah

smug

[digital crag]

No that's not quite it

[mossy spear]

and then he kidnaps his wife, which adittedly is kinda bad

[feral hamlet]

Yeah, you're totally roght Khaltor

[mossy spear]

but zeus is like: i'll allow it, and they make it so she has to stay half of the year in underworld and half on earth

so if Persephone isn't in the underworld and she isn't on earth, where exactly is she?

[digital crag]

We don't know if any of that is canon here

[frozen jolt]

he does his job diligently, but he isnt a good father by a long shot.....

[feral hamlet]

I am studying Greek in college and since i am working on it for 3 years now i can say that Hades is the most pleasant one

[frozen jolt]

im on team zag in that argument

i have no sympathy for hades as a father

[mossy spear]

true but i assume it is, considering a lot of it is fairly close to the greek mythos

[feral hamlet]

Besides, Asphodel is not supposed to look like HELL

i thought it was a great garden

😂

[mossy spear]

yeah but asphodel looking like that was because phlegeton overflowed

[atomic forge]

hades is an awful father but i feel like hes gonna end up being right about the olympians

[frozen jolt]

oh yeah i dont trust them

[mossy spear]

he's an awful person but he's sympathetic

[feral hamlet]

me too

[mossy spear]

in that he's kinda justified

in being like that

[feral hamlet]

thus i think Persephone might be dead or something

[maiden cairn]

yaaaas https://i.imgur.com/EAYp4L1.jpg almost at all 30

[mossy spear]

no, they say if persephone was dead, she'd be with them lol

[feral hamlet]

Oh, do we know how many levels will be in the final game ?

[frozen jolt]

i just couldnt sympathize with him myself, but maybe its a personal thing

[atomic forge]

funny you say that because i just had the convo with nyx where zag questions if perseophone is dead

and nyx says if shes dead she would be here

lmao

[mossy spear]

4 zones are planned i think

[feral hamlet]

lmao

Oh

4 only

[maiden cairn]

tbh i like the game at this 20 minute run length

40+ minutes gonna be fatiguing

[digital crag]

Yeah but so many people find ways to justify abuse and bad behaviour and it doesn't make their actions less bad

[mossy spear]

i think she may be somewhere on the border between life and death

[frozen jolt]

hey, no evading the swear filter 👀

[mossy spear]

like limbo or something

[feral hamlet]

ooh

[digital crag]

Cool motive still parental negligence

[feral hamlet]

you're right

[mossy spear]

so she gives birth to zagreus and then leaves him behind, which thanatos calls her out on

we don't know circumstance of course

[marsh prawn]

I mean she was kidnapped to begin with

[feral hamlet]

either way, i still think the foe monster needs to be extend. But since it's an alpha i'm counting on the great devs ^w^

[marsh prawn]

And Zag wasn’t exactly left behind if we do follow myth/texts following your reasoning if he gets put Hera kills him

So

[mossy spear]

ok, noted

[marsh prawn]

🤷

[mossy spear]

Hades has it bad, in terms of his job and life, and his wife left him (even tho he kidnapped her, but y'know, greek myth, there's worese things), and now his son is leaving him

[harsh sleet]

i wonder if we'll get to see persephone

[mossy spear]

i would be snarky too

[feral hamlet]

Don't you think the bot is huh, a bit too much rough ?

[marsh prawn]

I hope we get to see Persephone and get her side

[bleak osprey]

nope, bot does its job

[mossy spear]

well it's not up to me

[marsh prawn]

I got hit by bot and it was Fair

[digital crag]

Freeze.....

[south lagoon]

Thanks for reporting a game freeze! The most common solution to this issue can be found in #hades-tech-fixes-old

[mossy spear]

i don't mind retyping my sentence, as long as i don't get muted lol

[bleak osprey]

please don't set off the automessages on purpose

[digital crag]

Sorry

[marsh prawn]

In any case the game mixes different texts, authors and myths as far as I’ve seen so who knows

[maiden cairn]

https://i.imgur.com/7tQJxQB.png

mood

[frozen jolt]

well, looking at the remembrances, hades has not treated zag well like. ever. so i wouldnt say zag is bad for wanting to leave

[marsh prawn]

And I don’t think Hades is justified in talking to Zagreus as he does

[frozen jolt]

being lied to about his birth mother was just the last straw for him

[marsh prawn]

Excuse me Thanatos I die repeatedly FOR Hypnos

[mossy spear]

of course he's not, but it's kind of understandable

[limber sage]

Dang, I just got the convo between Meg and Zag about "healthy family relationships". Somebody call an ambulance -- WHY YOU GOTTA DESTROY ZAG LIKE DAT, MEG?! lmao

[mossy spear]

that's what i love about meg though

[rustic pewter]

meg is so well written

[mossy spear]

Zag's kinda self-righteous in how he judges her family relationships or obsession with her work

[limber sage]

She is. I love her.

[mossy spear]

Meg shooting him down is more than justified

[rustic pewter]

and it was super concise too

like “bro have u SEEN ur family?”

[devout isle]

So Thanatos is really Rare huh

[feral hamlet]

Meg looks so damn weak compare to her sisters

[mossy spear]

yeah he doesn't show up that often

[devout isle]

I only saw once and that's it

[marsh prawn]

That confused me tho cause up until then I thought they were raised as siblings

[limber sage]

I liked his response to it, though. He wasn't intentionally trying to be holier-than-thou or anything. It just didn't come off the right way. He's just concerned for her. For all of them, really.

[mossy spear]

i think she seems weak because we're used to the fight a lot more

[marsh prawn]

But Greg already clarified that point

[harsh sleet]

'thanatos should show up more often' IMMEDIATE THUMB UP

[mossy spear]

also, it might just be a bad skill matchup, y'know, meg seems like the one with the best head on their shoulders

[devout isle]

Welp posted it on the Feedback Channel

[mossy spear]

thanatos eems like once every threer uns or so

[feral hamlet]

Dyonisus may be the onhly god i'd trusted cuz' he's the only god that is not whining whan you betray him in the god trial ; it may be on count of the wine tho

[limber sage]

I also love Thanatos... Mainly because, I dunno what it is, but he and Zag don't really have a 'brotherly' vibe to me.

[feral hamlet]

Thanatos sprite in game is

weird

i dunno

[devout isle]

There are more downvotes for the sister one

:c

[limber sage]

Than comes off more like an angry ex, honestly.

[harsh sleet]

[limber sage]

<_<

[mossy spear]

could you put in that the special on the spear doesn't seem to trigger back attack on the hydra anymore?

also, the sisters aren't allowed int he house for a reason

[harsh sleet]

thanatos is cute

[marsh prawn]

Makes sense that Dio is nice

[feral hamlet]

In greek and french literature, i've read many stories about the sisters

they're like

mad as hell

[mossy spear]

I mean, imagine what Tisiphone and Alecto would do to Achilles

LOL

[marsh prawn]

Since he and Zag are basically the same person lmao

[frozen jolt]

you can report bugs with F10, @mossy spear

[marsh prawn]

spiderman pointing at spiderman

[runic terrace]

i dont care if theyre not allowed in ill sneak em thru my window

they can sneak into the lounge well chat

[marsh prawn]

With the wine

Hidden between the spirits

[harsh sleet]

i wanna ask something but i have nothing ,, to ask

[limber sage]

I don't want Tisiphone anywhere near me. Alecto can come, though.

She's the kind of crazy I like, lol.

[mossy spear]

i don't like either of them

i mean i like them but i don't /like/ them

[feral hamlet]

Tisiphone is a well writen character, especially in her voicelines tho

[frozen jolt]

u know that one conversation where zag is like "hey meg what are you drinking" and shes like "i dont know, but its even weaker than your blood"

[mossy spear]

they're good characters in terms that i don't like them

[marsh prawn]

I wanna ask but there are so many questions already

[limber sage]

That's one of my favorite Meg quotes.

[bleak osprey]

i got that one right after i gave her some ambrosia and i was like "that's a compliment i guess"

[frozen jolt]

imagine that but with alecto showing up in the window like oh? his blood?

[mossy spear]

i don't know but it's weak enough to be mistaken for your blood or something, yes

the meg burns

[harsh sleet]

i imagine tisi outside the house of hades like the vine of the woman banging on the window screaming

[mossy spear]

also i want an interaction for beating her without using any darkness*

also an option to play a run without accepting boons

going at it with only Zag's powers

[feral hamlet]

Hey

imagien that the next olympus god will be Appollo

:god:

[runic terrace]

tisi so tense she cant even speak..... let her sit and chill.....

[feral hamlet]

or Helios

[devout isle]

Ah so the other's can't come near the house

[feral hamlet]

i wish we can have keepsakes from the sisters also

[devout isle]

gotcha

[zenith lichen]

Tisi gives you murder

[harsh sleet]

im missing 2 keepsakes and i dont know whose they are

[zenith lichen]

[digital crag]

imagining the other two furies peering in the window like cats locked out of the house

[mossy spear]

the others aren't allowed in the house because they're too crazy to be allowed in

[digital crag]

scrabble scrabble

[feral hamlet]

There's the one from than Syd

did you get it ?

[harsh sleet]

please

[feral hamlet]

oh

[harsh sleet]

we all know ive given like 10 ambrosia to than already

[feral hamlet]

yeah you're right, dumb question 😂

https://hades.gamepedia.com/Keepsakes

go check ^^

[harsh sleet]

ty

[mossy spear]

I've maxed every character's ambrosia levels already lol

[feral hamlet]

Oh sorry

they don't have the update

[mossy spear]

and i only need to finish the onion and hades codex lore entries shrug

[harsh sleet]

it should be ok! its probably like

[mossy spear]

like 902 discussions with hades to go

[harsh sleet]

zeus and poseidon i havent got tbh

[paper stream]

I just had the cutscene where Meg shows up in your bedchambers monkaS

[feral hamlet]

i'm missing one keepsake

i dunno what

[paper stream]

It's the new one, Thanatos

[feral hamlet]

nope

i've get it

[zenith lichen]

All gods? Chaos?

[feral hamlet]

yes

[mossy spear]

sisyphus, skelly, nyx, hypnos, chaos, any of the boon gods?

[feral hamlet]

Yeah

so i'm lost

[paper stream]

why don't you just tell us what # it is

[mossy spear]

cerberus?

[zenith lichen]

[feral hamlet]

cerb too

[mossy spear]

dusa?

[feral hamlet]

ok lemme die and i tell you

dusa too

[paper stream]

instead of playing this silly guessing game

[harsh sleet]

i use cerbs keepsake most

[zenith lichen]

Achilles🤔

[mossy spear]

achilles maybe?

yea

[feral hamlet]

achilles too

[zenith lichen]

Hypnos

[harsh sleet]

wait- i can check in the codex

[feral hamlet]

Yeah i will give you the #announcements

[mossy spear]

already said hypnos LOL

[zenith lichen]

Oh

Me slow

[harsh sleet]

I WAS RIGHT

ITS ZEUS AND POSEIDON

[paper stream]

cerb's keepsake is meh

[harsh sleet]

it gives me more health which i need

[paper stream]

I'd rather use a god's keepsake or one of the damage ones

[lunar kiln]

everyone else: actual, constructive questions
me: zag size pls

[feral hamlet]

😂

[lunar kiln]

.

[harsh sleet]

I

[bleak osprey]

No thank you!

[zenith lichen]

I only use than, and god keepsakes if i want a specific run

[paper stream]

Orpheus keepsake is really good too

[harsh sleet]

this is where we find out everyone is like 7ft tall and zag got persephones genes and is 5'4

[zenith lichen]

Lmao

[feral hamlet]

what is the hidden things in skelly room when i beat the game with 15 heat ?

[paper stream]

it's a statue

[zenith lichen]

Art

[feral hamlet]

Only art ?

yikes

[paper stream]

yikes? srsy

[zenith lichen]

Good art

[mossy spear]

also WHY does everyone keep referring to Zag as a demigod? if the olympians think his mother is nyx, and his dad is hades

how does that make him a demigod?

[paper stream]

he might be half-human

[mossy spear]

do they not acknowledge nyx as a goddess?

[paper stream]

nyx is not his mother

[amber canyon]

In the strictest sense, she isnt

[harsh sleet]

yeah i think they all know

[limber sage]

Maybe he's demisexual. :3

[zenith lichen]

What

[amber canyon]

She is a personification of the night

[limber sage]

It was a joke. XD

[mossy spear]

Zeus says he assumes Nyx to be his mom

[paper stream]

in several conversations early on, they reveal that nyx was not really his mother

[digital crag]

maybe persephone is not a god in this canon

[zenith lichen]

What😂

[feral hamlet]

Okay i'm missing the keepsake that is right next to the Meg one

[digital crag]

even though she's all olympian in myth canon so who knows

[mossy spear]

sure but Zeus, and thus probably the other olympians i guess, think Nyx is the mom

[amber canyon]

They dont know that Persephone is his mom

[digital crag]

skelly??

[paper stream]

that's Skelly's keepsake

[amber canyon]

But Nyx is not exactly a goddess, thats why he is a demigod

[zenith lichen]

Skelly best waifu

[feral hamlet]

I thought i had it

[amber canyon]

For that matter

[feral hamlet]

thanks pal !

[paper stream]

No, Nyx is NOT his mother

[amber canyon]

Persephone is a goddess

[devout isle]

Skelly should have his weapon

[marsh prawn]

They don't consider Nyx to be a goddess I think

[mossy spear]

@paper stream but the OLYMPIANS do not know

[feral hamlet]

Imagine next weapon is Than one

:god:

[digital crag]

i know i'm saying maybe it's different in this universe

[amber canyon]

If they thought Perse was his mom

[mossy spear]

she's listed in the codex as a cthonic goddes though

[amber canyon]

They would consider him a god

[paper stream]

maybe they assume that he hasn't grown into his powers yet, and is not a full god

[amber canyon]

Rather than a demi-god

[zenith lichen]

But if you anger Artemis she says why do I even bother with some half god

[marsh prawn]

Also the origins and such regarding Zag are weird

[digital crag]

there are weird things being implied like ||alecto noting that zag having red blood is weird||

[limber sage]

It's possible that classifications for being a full or partial god work different in this game's universe?

[paper stream]

of course zag's origins are weird, they haven't revealed his true origin yet

[limber sage]

Like maybe you have to "earn" your full godhood or something?

[marsh prawn]

And it'd make sense for olympians, who have Dionysus, to think of Zag as a demigod, godling, whatever

I mean weird as in literally weird in text

In mythos

As in there are a million different versions

None of which unified

[mossy spear]

I think he's probably just weak because he's not worshipped/unknown, or maybe he's just a very young god or somethig, but he's technically no demigod, he's a full god

[amber canyon]

From what we know, yeah, he is

But from what the gods know, he is the child of a god and a personification

[mossy spear]

reason why they think he's half may be because they don't acknowledge nyx as a goddess, because, as they said, the olympians think they're above the chtonic gods

i mean, they /are/

geographically speaking

[marsh prawn]

And also demigods can be minor deities

[amber canyon]

Well there is also the whole "gods are only the children of the titans"

[marsh prawn]

Not only half god half something

[frozen jolt]

shes a titan isnt she

[amber canyon]

Whereas Nyx and her children are on a totally different axis

[frozen jolt]

nyx

[amber canyon]

No

[frozen jolt]

or a primordial deity, i dont know sorry

[amber canyon]

She is a primordial deity

Or Personification

[frozen jolt]

im not well versed in greek myth haha

[amber canyon]

Like Chaos, Erebos, Uranus, etc.

[marsh prawn]

well depends on who you ask but technically a personification

still greek myth is a mix and match of so many things

[amber canyon]

Really, Nyx is several levels above the gods

[marsh prawn]

that who can even be sure lmao

[amber canyon]

She stands on the same rank as Gaia, the grandma of the gods

[zenith lichen]

Titans

[marsh prawn]

Zag himself is greece looking at osiris and being very into that whole thing

[zenith lichen]

🤔

[marsh prawn]

or well way more complex than that but kinda a hey egypt let me copy your homework deal

[amber canyon]

Hell, in terms of the Myth

Nyx is one of the few beings Zeus is utterly terrified by

[mossy spear]

yeah, that's what i read on wikipedia, lol

[amber canyon]

In fact, Hypnos basically pranked Zeus several times

[mossy spear]

that Zeus is kinda scared of her

[amber canyon]

And always ran back to Nyx so Zeus backs the HFIL off

[marsh prawn]

well hypnos made zeus go to sleep because they promised him that he could get married

but hypnos depending on who you ask just was full time chilling

[harsh sleet]

i wish i was hypnos ugh

[mossy spear]

athena is the child of zeus, and she's a full god

[harsh sleet]

id love to be full time chilling

[mossy spear]

so the theory that only the chidlren of titans are real gods is kinda off the table

[marsh prawn]

nobody wishes because for some reason nobody was willing to worship the god that makes you uuuh SLEEP

minor deities are there i say

[mossy spear]

also it is my headcanon

[amber canyon]

Well the children of titans and gods

I shouldve phrased that better

[mossy spear]

that hypnos is so weird because he's sleep deprived and delirous from being overworked by hades

[harsh sleet]

hey hypnos buddy knock me the heck out please

[amber canyon]

He is many things

Sleep deprived he is not

[mossy spear]

have you seen his art?

he looks tired AF lol

and at some point

you talk to him and tell him he should sleep more

[amber canyon]

Yes, but we know he is nearly always sleeping

[mossy spear]

and then he casts the spell to make everyone sleep

[amber canyon]

Thanatos even points that out

[mossy spear]

he sleeps on the job because he doesn't get enough sleep time

[zenith lichen]

Have you had the dialogue where Hypnos tells than to just kill all the mortals so he can spend more time with him ?

😄

[amber canyon]

Yeah

[zenith lichen]

10/10

[mossy spear]

that was cute

[amber canyon]

No I think Hypnos is always sleepy because he is the god of sleep

If it were up to him

He would sleep 24/7

[marsh prawn]

hypnos is just as he is in myth

some dude

[amber canyon]

Literally

[marsh prawn]

nice, chill

will NOT make zeus go to sleep

unless theres something in it for him

[mossy spear]

i dunno about 24/7 sleep, maybe more like a koala

[marsh prawn]

like hera please im not an idiot im not doing that wait mayhaps yeah worth dying for

just a goofer just chilling

[mossy spear]

but i still think he doesn't get enough sleep because of hades lol

just cause it's funnier that way

[marsh prawn]

he sleepy

and actually syd some people wrote hymns to hypnos

cause they couldnt sleep

like knock me out my dude

[harsh sleet]

ok me

[amber canyon]

Wait so if we imprisoned Hypnos

Noone would sleep?

[harsh sleet]

'hey bro.
please let me sleep
blessed be bruh'

[marsh prawn]

well he did live in a cave according to some

just sleepin

[amber canyon]

Ok, I need to find a way into the underworld

Lets get rid of sleep

[harsh sleet]

No Sleep

[marsh prawn]

him and thanatos are just chillin in a cave

[mossy spear]

if we get rid of sleep, we all get a visit from thanatos after a week

[harsh sleet]

playing fortnite

[marsh prawn]

if i recall correctly they're the chill chthonic deities

[harsh sleet]

where we dropping than

[marsh prawn]

them and chthonic hermes but that one might just be hypnos again

[amber canyon]

Imprison Than and Hypnos together

That way whenever someone tries to rescue them

Hypnos causes them to fall asleep

[harsh sleet]

tfw in paganism thanatos is a negative deity

we like hypnos tho,, ok

[digital crag]

all you need to trap hypnos is to put a circle of coffee grounds around him

[marsh prawn]

he dies on the spot

[mossy spear]

sooooo

opinions on the burn flingers or whatver the new blue bomberguys are?

[zenith lichen]

That's just evil

You mean the ones that throw green fast bombs ?

[harsh sleet]

theyre easy to block with shield

but annoying

[zenith lichen]

I love em

The wave throwers or whatever though

Sped up armored versions are pretty rough

[amber canyon]

I like Hypnos, but Sleep can go die in hell

[mossy spear]

honestly i can deal with wave throwers

the green/blue bom throwers though, their bombs have a homing element to them and can be throw from off screen lol

much range

[marsh prawn]

i like hypnos and i also would like some sleep please and thank you

i forgot where exactly he was worshipped but moving there, building a lil shrine, sending some red poppies his way

deflect tho, deals with them pretty well in my experience

[mossy spear]

dionysus and hypnos would probably get along, falling asleep after a drunken stupor

[marsh prawn]

hypnos and hermes also best friends

dionysus, hypnos and hermes walk into a bar

[woven snow]

can anyone tell me how high does the god's pride % go to

[digital crag]

nary a brain cell between them

[mossy spear]

sure but having a type of enemy which requires a specific type of boon to deal with, dunno

[marsh prawn]

tho hermes is late hypnos for some so

[mossy spear]

might just not be used to them yet i guess

[marsh prawn]

ah maybe. i just always pick deflect lmao

what do you mean @woven snow? wrath?

[mossy spear]

50% i think?

[marsh prawn]

i think it depends on boon

zeus' is higher

[mossy spear]

or is it olympian favor that's 50%?

i know one of them is 50 and one is 25

[marsh prawn]

ah pppride

50% yeah

[mossy spear]

huh, "why must we always have to fight" -Megaera, at the start of this bossfight

that's a bit different than her usual quips

[harsh sleet]

i think she has a weak spot still for zag

thats why shes the easiest

[old frost]

^^^

[mossy spear]

yeah i figured that too at some point

fighting meg with -38% speed

doable but annoying nonetheless

dang it chaos

[lunar kiln]

"his height isnt specified" 😔

[harsh sleet]

F

[digital crag]

zag goes to mortal world like "whoa i'm tall now"

"everyone's so tiny"

[lunar kiln]

genuinely i'm trying to come up with pertinent questions but im just blown away by everything about the game or other people can word it far better than me so i'm just

sitting there making memes

[old frost]

we need the memers to stay alive

[digital crag]

yeah true i'm fresh out of questions

[mossy spear]

opened a trove trial on Thanatos

expected him to kill them all for me

dissapointed

[harsh sleet]

gfhjtf

hes not that nice

[digital crag]

lollllll

[marsh prawn]

last question answered on myth was interesting 👀

[stark tulip]

The best text about hades the team uses for reference is Disney’s Hercules (1997)

[old frost]

fhsjfhs

[stark tulip]

A truly historic tome

[mossy spear]

good luck ever trying to win thanatos rooms on higher heat

[digital crag]

yep, totally canon

height of storytelling

[mossy spear]

literally impossible

[harsh sleet]

i can go the distance but its zag