If you pick up either of the dd refill boons while your sd is gone you get a dd then sd refills next rooms
#h1-builds-and-combat
tight basin
and when you die the sd gets used first
random relic
yeah
lucid prairie
the what now
dreamy prism
chaos has an absurdly difficult boon
lucid prairie
THEY CAN WHAAAAAAT?
proper furnace
Is their legendary boon
lucid prairie
chaos has an absurdly difficult boon
oh yeah what’s the drawback
proper furnace
You need any other chaos boon first
random relic
just normal ones
tight basin
requires a chaos boon before you get the chance of seeing it tho
dreamy prism
oh yeah what’s the drawback
the curse is random if that's what you're asking
lucid prairie
oh
dreamy prism
all chaos boons are random curse + random buff
lucid prairie
I just thought, since it’s legendary, it would have a specific super difficult curse
tight basin
tmw you accidentally click +atk% for -5hp per atk
random relic
cursed tart moment
dreamy prism
I just thought, since it’s legendary, it would have a specific super difficult c...
yeah the game never explains that curses and buffs are completely independent
random relic
tight basin
i think the game's just like "hey look here's this just dont die lol"
random relic
music to my ears
proper furnace
THEY CAN WHAAAAAAT?
Also chaos is they btw
dreamy prism
yeah
random relic
ye
lucid prairie
with everything costing… 80% more?
lucid prairie
i could never
I rely so much on Charon
wait, when it says purge one boon, do you still get money from the purge
random relic
yes
dreamy prism
thankfully
lucid prairie
I’ll try convenience fee this time around and see how this run goes
random relic
uc is good until ri lol
lucid prairie
fighting regular dad will be so weird
random relic
uc is good until ri lol
then its just sad
dreamy prism
UC is also the pact with the highest ease to annoyingness ratio
random relic
nah cf worse
dreamy prism
it's mostly free heat but man it sucks to use
random relic
I rely so much on Charon
also this is probably because you werent using dark foresight lol
dreamy prism
see people run high heat with CF0
random relic
dark foresight is so broken
dreamy prism
but no one does with UC0
random relic
uc gets really really sad at very high heat because your build starts to kinda fall apart lol
random relic
add mm
random relic
send the pact?
dreamy prism
show your pact
dreamy prism
https://youtu.be/hmuhZoCrZpA
man this is the vid that convinced me to do lucy 50
lucy is so fun
dreamy prism
uhhh user error
random relic
idk man have you played the aspect?
plain river
Yes
random relic
stickiest aspect
strange lark
Aren't you on kbm
random relic
shut up
lucid prairie
random relic
its clean when i watch croven play it
lucid prairie
holy quality issues
random relic
js1 hs?
strange lark
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/997226955801886793/997233871349371020/I...
Take off em3 and fo2
So em2 fo1
lucid prairie
No I mean I was looking for 40
lucid prairie
js1 hs?
hs has killed and will kill me
but I’ll try it again
now that I’m probably better at this game
random relic
thats what id do
strange lark
dreamy prism
ew DC1
random relic
hs has killed and will kill me
hs really sucks but only because dad pots
no em4 = less dad pots
dreamy prism
I would prefer AP1 tbh
strange lark
Nah
random relic
nah
dreamy prism
rude
iron barn
hs is optimal so you can die faster to heal with sd
random relic
And lava
i havent died to lava yet (besides lernie)
oh and uh
when you "reset your sd" after a room
that hurts a lot
strange lark
dreamy prism
lol
random relic
i love that channel
random relic
what happened at the end???
strange lark
what happened at the end???
Dodge + vengeance
random relic
Dodge + vengeance
vengence doesnt have cooldown???
strange lark
Idk
random relic
wack
lucid prairie
Does Jury Summons affect Erebus as well
strange lark
Yes
strange lark
I believe it does
random relic
best erebus reward is heart ngl
lucid prairie
that was fast
strange lark
Centaur souls better touch of styx
random relic
if you have like 2hp lmao
random relic
yeah i need to take them more
double hearts are op
if no ri2 that can be like 150 hp c3 tart
insane
random relic
oh yeah those are totally a lot much better
lucid prairie
Ran out of time at dad
This will work though
if i just get better satyr sack luck
+if i finally get heart rend dammit
cunning urchin
Stay close to an obstacle and dash away to the side or towards Asterius at the last moment. He won't be able to turn around in time.
Stay between two obstacles and dash towards Asterius at the last moment. He'll try to turn around and crash into either obstacle.
Stay close to an obstacle and dash through the obstacle at the last moment. He'll crash into it, but it's also the riskiest option because if you mistime your dash, he'll just move around the obstacle and be right behind you.
If he misses the obstacle with the first two methods, he'll still have to turn around, so you'll have time to get away and try again.
Theseus also counts as an obstacle.
lucid prairie
Oooo the second one looks good
iron barn
is stygian soul or infernal soul better for beo flood flare
plain river
Infernal soul
iron barn
ok
plain river
Stygian soul is really only used for trippy flare builds
plain river
😎
turbid needle
Any build ideas for new players? Trying to get a completion
lucid prairie
ok so I know you guys already told me the answer to this but ever since I switched from the Mirror of Night perk that gives you higher chance of rares…
my key boons have been common
every time
lucid prairie
Any build ideas for new players? Trying to get a completion
What weapon
turbid needle
I have all of them
plain river
Higher chance at rares 
turbid needle
Whatever is easiest tbh 💀
plain river
What weapon do you like the most
turbid needle
The bow
plain river
which bow aspect
turbid needle
Chiron or Hera
plain river
So for chiron, aphrodite attack and then either artemis special or dionysus special work really well, then hope to pick up concentrated and relentless volley
For hera, you’ll need some else who knows how to use it better than me
turbid needle
What would you say is the most consistent weapon
plain river
So for chiron, aphrodite attack and then either artemis special or dionysus spec...
Get flourish first then aphro strike whoops
Tbh I think zeus shield is really consistent
Or are you asking between chiron and hera
plain river
Brb
random relic
my key boons have been common
i recommend using gods pride
lucid prairie
huh
plain river
Unless going for duos
lucid prairie
(That’s exactly what I’m doing)
random relic
(That’s exactly what I’m doing)
well just unlucky ig lol
if youre forcing them through keepsakes it should be like 50% epic if using pride
fallow juniper
Things that Hades Spear would want to pick up?
fallow juniper
not for a speedrun, is just for fun
proper furnace
Exploding luncher + charged skewer
Serrated edge, quick-massive spin
Boons arty/aphro works as usual
tight basin
twin shot gaming
leaden mauve
whats a good attack boon for eris?
tight basin
Zeus
leaden mauve
aight aight
cunning urchin
Yeah, like literally changes by 2x or 3x.
iron barn
wait
zag shield bonus is base damage right
so is that a permanent multiplicative 60% atk damage boost
also does it apply to the bull rush
proper furnace
No
iron barn
Zad
also why does lucifer have like,,, 800 unique hammers while the other hidden aspects only have one 
proper furnace
Cuz luci takes away so many normal hammers
iron barn
true
plain river
Eternal chamber kinda delta
proper furnace
Dwlta but you dont get the iframes
plain river
So I’m doing that talos run Inwas talking about
Colussus knuckle, quake cutter, or concentrated knuckle
I think it’s quake cutter but that might be useless if pos special just knocks them out of range anyways
iron barn
colossus might be good tho since the special makes you pretty vulnerable
also quake cutter gets cancelled by dashes
plain river
I guess it’s colossus
cunning urchin
So I’m doing that talos run Inwas talking about
Context? 
plain river
Uh
I was asking for stupid build ideas
Then it popped into my mind
And uh
It’s going horrendously well
cunning urchin
I was asking for stupid build ideas
Shoulda taken Quake Cutter then. 
lucid prairie
What happens if you stack Merciful End with… whatever Aphro+Ares is
plain river
Uh
plain river
There isn’t really a reason to have it when running merciful end
Because you’re reapplying doom faster then it can fall a second time
lucid prairie
Also if you’re going for the Exposed boon should you run submission doing it?
proper furnace
Wut?
lucid prairie
Wut?
While doing merciful end
Since you’re constantly applying doom and then also exposed
proper furnace
But what is submission?
strange lark
are you talking about privileged status
proper furnace
Answwr is nah, ME is already a lot of boons to come across
cunning urchin
But what is submission?
plain river
Hi foolish I’m Shackle Best Keepsake
proper furnace
You dont wanna add another for a 15% increase over ff
proper furnace
https://tenor.com/view/bret-hart-sharp-shooter-wwe-wrestling-gif-11307554
Ty as always
cunning urchin
Any time.
lucid prairie
wait, privileged status is only +15%?
proper furnace
+40%
proven osprey
Not it's the difference between PS and FF
cunning urchin
Family Favorite ends up being +25% in a typical run.
proper furnace
Hermes counts
cunning urchin
4 god pool + Lord Hermes.
proven osprey
25, 4 gods and Hermie
plain river
isn’t FF usually 15-20
Ending with 3 gods in your pool 🤨
lucid prairie
Hermes counts
I did not consider this
Hermes has never felt like an Olympian in the game to me for obvious reasons
lucid prairie
No it’s just he feels more like Hammer to me
except obviously not being weapon specific
iron barn
he is basically
the game treats him differently
e.g. unaffected by god keepsakes, guaranteed 2/3 in your run
plain river
Can only get him twice then 50:50 for third hermes boon in styx
tight basin
50/50 for hermes vs anvil in styx i thnk right
plain river
Yup
balmy echo
since i started playing hades
i hated casts
but i saw potential in them
and i started to read all the boons
and i made my build
then all i had to do was to get it in the game
and now... i did it
and its overpowered
look at this beauty
proper furnace
blessed
balmy echo
just spam cast and when youre out of it.... spam special to get the cast back
i am sad now the run is over and i cant use it anymore... but i recommend it to others to try it out
random relic
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/769614394400309249/997598972636057660/202...
cheater
balmy echo
huh?
random relic
everyone knows fully loaded is impossible to get on cast builds
balmy echo
?
random relic
its a joke, fully loaded is one of the best boons you can get for cast builds but its like almost impossible to get
so even if you go for it you never end up getting it
balmy echo
ohhh i was scared rn XD like: wait... im playing on the switch... how could i even cheat?
random relic
lmao
balmy echo
exploit?
proper furnace
ohhh i was scared rn XD like: wait... im playing on the switch... how could i ev...
by modding your switch ofc
im a cheat (speedrunning modpack) player lol
random relic
nice cheat engine
dreamy prism
I'm a cheat (cheat engine) player
proper furnace
tho i cant configure certain settings so i havent seen Than in ages
dreamy prism
ew are you an RTA user
random relic
im a cheat (high clocket rates) player
proper furnace
and im stuck with triple shots for zag/rama bow 
proper furnace
ew are you an RTA user
sadly
random relic
tho i cant configure certain settings so i havent seen Than in ages
you cant configure settings???
weird
dreamy prism
bruh
proper furnace
by modding your switch ofc
.
random relic
i didnt even know that was possible lmao
dreamy prism
RTA being modpack default is depressing
proper furnace
wait is the preset stored in the save?
like if you save igt preset and someone else with the mod uses they also start on igt preset
random relic
probably
iron barn
can splash dash backstab
proper furnace
No
iron barn
fallow juniper
Ricochet Fire or Explosive Fire for Hestia aspect Rail?
dreamy prism
Ricochet Fire or Explosive Fire for Hestia aspect Rail?
rico's considered better than explosive, although both are pretty good
fallow juniper
Does the rico target carry the empowered shot damage from Hestia or no?
plain river
Ye
fallow juniper
Nice.
plain river
uhh
fallow juniper
+2% per chamber without taking damage vs +100% while not empowered by boon.
strange lark
no
fallow juniper
Well, I guess that depends on what boon on attack would be opened up with butterfly
plain river
tbh both are horrible shackle best keepsake
dreamy prism
don't use butterfly it sucks
plain river
Shackle is for kool kids exclusively
dreamy prism
sus
random relic
amgugos
tight basin
for achilles phalanx build, should i prioritize lightning phalanx or parting shot
i also have blinding flash for more backstab damage which would scale nicely with parting shot
valid dagger
for achilles phalanx build, should i prioritize lightning phalanx or parting sho...
It’s hard to gauge how much exactly backstab damage is doing, and sometimes it’s awkward and can incentivize you to play risky just so you get more backstabs, it’s probably better than LP for Hades but aside from that I’ll always take LP first, it’s so good for heroes, better for Styx, and in general for rooms it does a lot more work than Parting Shot
tight basin
Fair enough
Although isn't it not risky because phalanx shot is so big that it backstabs or did I misread that from somewhere
valid dagger
Although isn't it not risky because phalanx shot is so big that it backstabs or ...
You still have to use it from behind
What you said is very noticeable only on Hera
Because the shot spawns at the tip pf the arrow
And the arrow is usually in the middle of the enemy
So it ends up hitting from a lot of sides
Which is why you see Phalanx backstabbing from the front
On Hera
tight basin
Oh I see got it
wraith helm
whats the best build for the aspect of guan yu?
lucid oar
Charged skewer is pretty good, any % special boon works well
I like Poseidon or Artemis
Also merciful end is good
iron barn
always consider athena on attack
makes your spins crazy
other athena boons are good in general just to get hit less
since low health
plain river
poseidon attack on guan-yu is my favourite
iron barn
Doesnt that knock enemies away from the spin though
iron barn
then you're going to hit them like,,, once
don't you want them to stay there and take damage?
plain river
If I want to kill little dudes I’ll just use special
bosses aren’t affected by knockback nearly as much
I kinda just build lucifer super soaker on guan-yu and everything works out fine
iron barn
lol
lucid prairie
Alright I have one obvious question and another not so obvious question
- does shatter work on bosses at all
plain river
Uh
Demeter legendary?
If we’re talking about the demeter legendary yes they get executed
it’s actually really funny
Not something to build for though
If it comes up incidentally during your run and the other boon options aren’t better then it sure take it
lucid prairie
oh it DOES?
proper furnace
assuming dem has better options
lucid prairie
Demeter legendary?
yeah
lucid prairie
and 2a) is Poseidon a good choice for attack if you wanna go aggro with shield
lucid prairie
also yeah Dem even does a finisher line when executing the bosses
wait what that’s sick
proper furnace
tempest strike is never good
plain river
it effectively reduces boss hp by 10% aside from hades
strange lark
it does
plain river
it does
lucid prairie
ah, I see
plain river
Which means effectively like 5% reduction I think?
proper furnace
uh have you fought the em4 version of dad?
lucid prairie
multiple times
plain river
uh have you fought the em4 version of dad?
Once and it wasn’t a win
proper furnace
i think there it only works for the 3rd life
lucid prairie
probably
strange lark
yeah
lucid prairie
also is it just me as a Chiron player or does 3rd phase start out with less health than 1st or 2nd
proper furnace
the only time i managed to get winter harvest for em4 the dumb beo nuked the hp making it useless lmao
it does
plain river
So em4 about 3.33% reduction
lucid prairie
splitting bolt?
strange lark
worst part of the legendary is that you need demeter boons
dreamy prism
lol
proper furnace
looks>being most useful
lucid prairie
I only know the effects of like 3 legendaries
proper furnace
splitting bolt?
zeus
lucid prairie
Black Metal, Fully Loaded and Sweet Surrender
proper furnace
lightning attacks throw a 40 dmg orb
lucid prairie
oh yeah that one
proper furnace
2 of those arent legendaries
lucid prairie
what
dreamy prism
I think it's the best legendary tbh
proper furnace
what
black metal increases sife of blade rifts, sweet surrender is enemies take more dmg if weakened
lucid prairie
oh then I meant whatever those legendaries are ACTUALLY called
proper furnace
viscius cycle/unhealty fixation are the legendaries
lucid prairie
there it is
proper furnace
probably typed wrong the first one
plain river
Vicious
lucid prairie
oh wait I also know the funny fishing Poseidon one
strange lark
scam cycle
proper furnace
huge catch best legendary
plain river
oh wait I also know the funny fishing Poseidon one
Huge catch 💪💪💪
way better then second wave or whatever it’s called
plain river
second wave doesnt do anything
Sea storm gamers in shambles
dreamy prism
does it not actually knockback further
lucid prairie
It does
It’s just not useful
Because there isn’t a real… point
The first shove away already pushes ‘em away far enough
strange lark
now your enemies are even farther away from you
strange lark
its aight
dreamy prism
eh it's decent
lucid prairie
It’s like Acorn but like 10 more times
dreamy prism
I'll sometimes take brilliant riposte just in case it shows up if athena has nothing else to offer
which is very often the case
strange lark
yeah the real problem is that you need brilliant riposte
lucid prairie
Also (as one can tell, I have a lot of questions about the game) what’s the math exactly for rush delivery
dreamy prism
it decreases your clear time by 50%
strange lark
x% of your movement speed is extra damage
so like with hyper sprint you get 100% movement speed
lucid prairie
and that extra damage is applied additively like everything else?
dreamy prism
yeah
lucid prairie
so like with hyper sprint you get 100% movement speed
OH THAT COUNTS?
That’s awesome
dreamy prism
that's why RD is so broken
strange lark
no it doesnt hyper sprint isnt actually movement speed
iron barn
no it doesnt hyper sprint isnt actually movement speed
what
lucid prairie
wh- well that just- that just wasn’t necessary at all I mean c’mon you didn’t need to do that
strange lark
im joking lmao
dreamy prism
hyper sprint is a hoax invented by big hermes to sell us more plumes
lucid prairie
I mean it has a special effect during the boost in run speed so I thought it was different
dreamy prism
oh that's just sturdy
proper furnace
as a note, movement speed is multiplicative
dreamy prism
and that's why zagsword is considered the best aspect
multiplicative speed buff with RD
lucid prairie
I have so many more questions
after watching just four (4) minutes of that speedrun
my biggest being: why are there some sections why he waits out dialogue/waits at the well of Charon
strange lark
its part of the route
iron barn
thats rng manipulation
strange lark
ye
lucid prairie
Chamber rewards are decided on a timer basis?
strange lark
no
lucid oar
Voice lines
lucid prairie
oh
to skip them faster?
also if the run’s seeded then what RNG is there to manipulate
lucid oar
All of it
strange lark
yeah
lucid prairie
Got it
oh yeah also is the “Minimum Rarity: Epic” thing ever worth the setting up for any heat above 30
strange lark
you could set it up
but i dont really see why you would when you can just get epic boons
lucid prairie
but i dont really see why you would when you can just get epic boons <:bouldy:52...
I mean if you run anything incentivising a duo boon
thanks autocorrect
iron barn
does exclusive access actually affect duo/legendary chance
strange lark
I don't think you'd ever go for it unless the game gives you Poseidon and dio
strange lark
does exclusive access actually affect duo/legendary chance
No
iron barn
unfortunate
lucid prairie
DUDE ME WITH FULL SETUP IS NUTS
even more so with ruthless reflex and maim
is maim also applied additively?
this question goes out to all aspect attack buffs
proper furnace
yeah
lucid prairie
is the (aspect of) achilles build also merciful end
strange lark
No
lucid prairie
Oh cool
What... is it
Isn't there a place for all aspects' best builds or something
iirc there was at some point
strange lark
Usually Poseidon dash, are cast, Artemis attack, and hunting blades
random relic
Isn't there a place for all aspects' best builds or something
not really
strange lark
Ares cast
lucid prairie
Usually Poseidon dash, are cast, Artemis attack, and hunting blades
it's cast based?
does achilles not have anything good on its own?
random relic
also flurry jab
random relic
its like half cast half attack based
valid dagger
The Cast is a lot more for the bossing
lucid prairie
understood
on an entirely different note, does draining cutter apply to maim kills
lucid prairie
my options are breaching cross, conc knuckle, and that
and I'm on gilga so the second is a no
proper furnace
breaching cross always
lucid prairie
my options are breaching cross, conc knuckle, and that
as in, even when the other two aren't options as bad as these?
proper furnace
yeah
lucid prairie
I usually don't struggle at all with minibosses
proper furnace
is all fists best hammer by far
lucid prairie
and I see no other use
proper furnace
armored enemies cant be stunned
strange lark
900% big number
proper furnace
less time being armored = more stun
random relic
900% is insane
proper furnace
and yeah 900% is kinda a lot
random relic
you like 1 or 2 shot armor
random relic
yes thats what it says
lucid prairie
?!?!?!
proper furnace
you have the hammer choice up still no? is right there in the tooltip
strange lark
It's actually doubles when you get mirage shot so it can go up to 1800%
lucid prairie
you have the hammer choice up still no? is right there in the tooltip
I already chose it but I never read it closely ig
proper furnace
is so strong it was nerfed
proper furnace
from 1000% to 900%
strange lark
🗿
random relic
valid dagger
Don't worry you're playing fists
random relic
its not like an amazing hammer
valid dagger
lucid prairie
oh yeah also is Rush Kick as good as I think it is (very)
random relic
its just that fists has bad hammers
proper furnace
you need all help possible
strange lark
Gilga dash strikes deal 20 damage so you kinda need it
random relic
and thats the best of the bunch
strange lark
oh yeah also is Rush Kick as good as I think it is (very)
No
proper furnace
Gilga dash strikes deal 20 damage so you kinda need it
smth smth cant kill a numbskull
valid dagger
oh yeah also is Rush Kick as good as I think it is (very)
It's pretty bad
Just a meme
Makes your Special worse
lucid prairie
worse? but it autotargets the enemy
and with gilga you can immediately get out if you're in danger at that point
lucid prairie
Idk about that gilga is pretty slow <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
+2 dashes
valid dagger
Shorter dashes
strange lark
That are shortened and have longer cooldowns
lucid prairie
And wdym it auto targets enemies
as in dashes towards them
valid dagger
Yes
random relic
yes
strange lark
Yes
random relic
by a lot
proper furnace
late yes
lucid prairie
oh
random relic
still good for boon% tho
random relic
bruh
proper furnace
we all have been a zag sword gamer at least once
proper furnace
so you swapped weapons before the first run?
gamer
or like bigp who installed a 100% file asap to speedrun
strange lark
Died before I could use it
lucid prairie
YOOOO I CAN STEAL FROM CHARON IN TARTARUS
strange lark
DO IT
proper furnace
do it
random relic
or like bigp who installed a 100% file asap to speedrun
wait seriously lol
strange lark
Yeah
random relic
wtf
strange lark
That's where bigp moment comes from
strange lark
Cuz he doesn't know basic stuff about the game
proper furnace
"this game has a plot?"
random relic
bought the game and decided to speedrun from run 1
strange lark
And now has beo wr
random relic
thats amazing
random relic
That's where bigp moment comes from
makes sense lol
lucid prairie
does 100% include all the extraneous story stuff
like getting Hypnos the bull's signature
strange lark
makes sense lol
proper furnace
i think he also didnt know how hunter's mark worked
lucid prairie
he and I, we'd get along
proper furnace
even tho he has used it
lucid prairie
i think he also didnt know how hunter's mark worked
I still do not
can it apply the mark to an enemy that was just marked if that's the only enemy
random relic
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/659820450297282585/997976949970452582/S...
bruh
when did he start playing lmao
strange lark
Idk
strange lark
Reset
proper furnace
dds pay themselves after charon lol
dreamy prism
reset
lucid prairie
this is not a high heat run
random relic
reset 3 times for good luck
lucid prairie
it's like
dreamy prism
this is not a high heat run
reset
random relic
yeah ill still reset even if its like 55
lucid prairie
yeah ill still reset even if its like 55
by the way, how's 50 compared to 40
lucid prairie
40 to 50 is harder than 0 to 40
for me it just sounds like adding DC2 EM4 JS3 and like
oh never mind
strange lark
40 -> 50 = 0 -> 32
strange lark
Maybe idk
random relic
if you know what youre doing
lucid prairie
0 to 32 is insane what
random relic
as in not choosing stupid pacts
lucid prairie
oh right
strange lark
Waiting for somebody to do ri4 for first 32 on reddit
random relic
but yeah adding em4 to like a 40 pact makes it way harder
lucid prairie
Waiting for somebody to do ri4 for first 32 on reddit
no shot
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youd be surprised
strange lark
You wouldn't believe the dumb 32 pacts I've seen
lucid prairie
i saw RI1 and said "i will never get heart rend" and decided to never touch it
random relic
theres people that think ap2 is free heat and do it for like 15 heat
lucid prairie
You wouldn't believe the dumb 32 pacts I've seen
Alright so mine wasn't that bad
strange lark
Way too many ri2s and ap2s and cp2 js3s
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and then complain about the game being impossible and too rng heavy
lucid prairie
Way too many ri2s and ap2s and cp2 js3s
CP?
strange lark
Alright so mine wasn't that bad
Kinda was tho
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calisthenics program
strange lark
You did em4 js3 cp2 td0
lucid prairie
I don't pay attention to health bars during bosses so I convinced myself that CP simply did not affect them
strange lark
Bruh
proper furnace
lucid prairie
I mean
strange lark
If I simply ignore it then it does not exist
lucid prairie
Why would I look at how far the big red bar is going down when my screen is suddenly filled with large green mines
proper furnace
I wouldnt call normal pots mines
random relic
peripheral vision
proper furnace
If you have heightened security yes
strange lark
I can definitely tell the difference between cp2 hades and cp0 hades
lucid prairie
HS... affects pots?
strange lark
Yes
proper furnace
150 dmg for free
lucid prairie
I can definitely tell the difference between cp2 hades and cp0 hades
ok but you're switching on cp2 at like 50 heat
I did it at 30
random relic
otherwise its not that bad
its easy to tell the difference of cp2 at 0 heat
everything takes way longer to kill
lucid prairie
maybe it's just chiron
strange lark
Oh yeah chiron makes every enemy have 30% less health
strange lark
Sometimes 3
lucid prairie
Also em4 sometimes puts 2 vases in the same spot
it sure does.
strange lark
Maybe even 4
lucid prairie
it... sure does, and did, and will continue to do so
random relic
pots are evil on hs
lucid prairie
I think that's when I decided that I was doing something wrong at 35 heat
random relic
you can have a full health bar hit a pot and pop your sd
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ty for the adbice
lucid prairie
also why does hades sometime arbitrarily deal 100+
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all my problems are solved
lucid prairie
excluding boiling blood
strange lark
Probably his spear throw
proper furnace
spear throw big hurt
strange lark
100
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100%
lucid prairie
great
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lmao
lucid prairie
230 damage from two mistakes sounds right for em4
does the spear dash do damage at all?
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wait i thought the dash did do damage
strange lark
It doesnt
strange lark
Skill issue
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ur mom
strange lark
😢
plain river
Can hangover and ruptured crit?
plain river
Can hangover and ruptured crit?
and am I correct in assuming global damage increases also affect these sources of dot
dreamy prism
yes and yes
tight basin
explosive shot is not fun lol
wanton dagger
My favorite combo has to be the rapid hit for the blade, and the heal 2 hps but have like minus 60% health
cunning urchin
perfect shot or explosive shot on twin rama
Perfect.
cunning urchin
explosive shot is not fun lol
You'll mostly want to just quick-release your shots when using Explosive.
But you can still get off Power Shots.
lucid prairie
perfect shot or explosive shot on twin rama
perfect ‼️‼️
lucid prairie
what does… “delta” mean
plain river
Would you ever run stygian soul on achilles cast builds?
I’m fairly certain the answer is no
But just checking
strange lark
if you wanna highroll meme beams or hunting blades you would run stygian and pray for extra casts from chaos
but for normal achilles builds no just run infernal
plain river
Figured
tight basin
You'll mostly want to just quick-release your shots when using Explosive.
Yeah I figured that out lol
I lose piercing and I have to get super close which is a bit difficult
plain river
Shackle beo gaming rn
I just bought a pom from chiron for 100 obols to get 150 obols before fury fight
stable cove
that's nice from charon, imagine if it just said no boons sry
plucky solstice
what is the best gun
im using the bow and shield so often but
i cant make it finish
and cannot unlock the hidden aspects
plain river
Eris and hestia > zag rail
stable cove
do you have any upgraded or any titan blood? at low blood/low eris is arguably best
if you have them upgraded hestia can be a safe weapon to pick off enemies
plain river
Hestia only really becomes amazing at higher levels
plain river
Hestia only really becomes amazing at higher levels
4-5
stable cove
yeah not too great at low levels
plucky solstice
do you have any upgraded or any titan blood? at low blood/low eris is arguably b...
i have
in the sword zagreus aspect is max
plain river
My shackle beo run has ended prematurely noooo 
plucky solstice
and bow the second aspect is level 2
plain river
in the sword zagreus aspect is max
plain river
It was fun
dreamy prism
mirage allowed?
stable cove
if you have hestia 4-5 like Shackle says, then Eris or Hestia could do but otherwise Eris.. Eris is prob the most pwerful aspect on the rail but hestia has a different playstyle. you can test out titan blood spending if you spend it but don't leave the courtyard and go back to the house or die in an escape attempt but instead do "give up" from the menu, but if you're worried about wasting it you might want to be safe
and don't quit from escape attempt either, that will save also...
plain river
I think I’ve run a shackle hestia run let me check my photos
I have but discord won’t let me copy the media link for whatever reason
+5% attack damage from bouldy that run!?!? That definitely contributed to my damage when shackle was already doing +100% anyways
plucky solstice
im so lucky i got just artemis and aphrodite in 30 chambers lol
plucky solstice
idk what weapon to use
plucky solstice
i just hate the gun
plain river
Exapryph is cool but you don’t have to use it if you don’t want to
proper furnace
What attack you used when playing rail?
plain river
skill issue i think
Definitely
plucky solstice
What attack you used when playing rail?
aspect zagreus and special auto special autp
plain river
no
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Attack boon i mean
plain river
Which attack boon
plucky solstice
oh
stable cove
could try just put zeus on attack with keepsake with eris then aphrodite/neptune/athena/% increase on the secondary. just keep the bonus damage active. also could try to get rocket bomb/triple bomb/cluster bomb
plain river
Rocket bomb massively improves your special
proper furnace
Ouch
plain river
probably the snowwomans boon
Demeter
plucky solstice
yeah
plain river
Yeah % attacks on normal rail sucks
Unless using hestia
plain river
Is hestia not a normal rail 🤨
strange lark
normal meaning zag rail
plucky solstice
i love the bow but it needs some upgradements
strange lark
plain river
proper furnace
🔫
plucky solstice
i guess im just a noob who even cant play with a single weapon idk
proper furnace
For bow are you dash striking?
plucky solstice
yeah
plain river
i guess im just a noob who even cant play with a single weapon idk
You learn with time
proper furnace
Also yeah practice good
plucky solstice
it has been 16 hours i will be good in one day i believe
proper furnace
Base bow (like lvl 0) is fine but you are gonna want hammers more than an upgraded bow
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Try aim for twin/shot first
strange lark
explosive shot gud
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Then perfect/point blank/flurry/explosive
plain river
Twin or triple shot are priority picks on non-chiron aspects
plucky solstice
actually im not a bad player sometimes i make it to 3rd dimension boss but the guy with shield just annoys me and beats me 5 times in a row
plucky solstice
to the 3rd dimension without any death defience
proper furnace
So you can stand to their oefg for easy backstab
plain river
just play em3 so he only has the shield 1/4 of the fight
plucky solstice
yeah the cool named guy
proper furnace
Bait the spear throw and wait till he retreats so you can attack him
Or dash through the spin attack for same resukt
plucky solstice
Wdym, asterius is the cool one
just a bull
plain river
🤨🤨🤨
plucky solstice
yeah
plain river
anywho
proper furnace
Asterius is way cooler than dude with a shield
stable cove
you might know all this but with the third boss, try to kill bull first usually and if a X appears near zagreus in red that means he's aiming and about to throw at you so get behind piller. also bull rushing at is stopped by piller/wall
plucky solstice
im killin the bull first always
its easier but when it comes to the shieldas guy
stable cove
err sorry, i meant the actual guy with the shield here: - "and if a X appears near zagreus in red that means he's aiming and about to throw at you"
plucky solstice
i cant make it happen :sad:
plain river
“Kill first” this “kill first” that, just kill them at the same time 🧠
proper furnace
You also can save a greater call for theseus god call
He is left vulnerable during it so you can probably finish him off in that time
plucky solstice
“Kill first” this “kill first” that, just kill them at the same time 🧠
big brain
proper furnace
Or leave him at barely a bit of hp
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Are you having problem with one in specific?
The gods he can call are the ones you dont have boons from
plucky solstice
not specific
plain river
The gods he can call are the ones you dont have boons from
Interesting, I never knew that
plucky solstice
when it comes to dodgeing
plain river
Just don’t be in the circles
proper furnace
Best way to dodge most is keep dashing through theseus
plucky solstice
im not zagreus im reus who cant play anywhere but oneplace
plain river
zigreus
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The attacks will follow you but you still have opportunities to dmg him
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Also having any call helps to dodge attacks
As activating one will give you a small amount of iframes
plucky solstice
and im so unlucky in the last 3 runs i got artemis and the love girl all the time
and personally i dont like them
plain river
those are good combos 🤨
plucky solstice
idk
in most of the time their powers is the cast things
my english is bad sorry
proper furnace
When you find either do you already have an attack boon?
plucky solstice
yeah generally
plain river
Aphro and arte are really good on attacks or flourishes
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Attacks from like athena and dem are good too but you want them with rarity
plucky solstice
imo the best combo for bow is the posedion and the wineguys
proper furnace
Are you using pos attack?
plucky solstice
ehh
plain river
Uh
plucky solstice
what is pos attack
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Poseidon attack
plain river
poseidon attack
plucky solstice
yeah
stable cove
the wineguy/dio is better for quick low damage attacks
plain river
are you aiming for exclusive access
plucky solstice
ohh
proper furnace
It has the lowest % bonus
plain river
are you aiming for exclusive access <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
If so, don’t
plucky solstice
yeah but the bounce thing is good for me
plucky solstice
im doin it already
proper furnace
Or kill them so they cant hurt you
Which with pos attack wont happen
plucky solstice
is pos attack that bad
strange lark
yeah
plucky solstice
oh
plucky solstice
i though it was cool
plucky solstice
which is the best attack
proper furnace
"good"
plain river
Well
strange lark
level 6 epic poseidon attack = level 1 epic aphro attack
plain river
“Viable” is a better word then good I gues
plucky solstice
my friend told me zeus is the worst and ares is the best
i think hes noob like me
stable cove
you mentioned the aphro/artemis gods powwers are usually in the cast... just to be sure, once you put someone on attack (or another one of the 3 main slots), that's it then unless you sell it or another god offers to replace it (small ish chance).
plain river
which is the best attack
Aphrodite or artemis attacks are up there and then high rarity demeter and athena attacks when you’re using heavy hitting weapons
plucky solstice
is ares good
proper furnace
Best attack heavily depends on the weapon but for bow is normally artemis or aphro yeah
plain river
my friend told me zeus is the worst and ares is the best
On things like rail you want to run zeus
plain river
is ares good
Yes
plucky solstice
On things like rail you want to run zeus
i dont use rail not for me
i dont have enough skill for rail
plucky solstice
3 death defience to meg with rail
stable cove
apart from aphgro/artemis demeter can be ok on attack too if you don't want those two
plucky solstice
i know...
proper furnace
I think thats mostly you using demeter attack
plucky solstice
prolly
proper furnace
Zeus attack makes an easy room clear in tart
plucky solstice
demeter attack is not good
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Is good
plucky solstice
for not rail
proper furnace
Not on zag rail tho
stable cove
wait are we talking about the bow still? or is it now the rail lel
plucky solstice
not the rail no
proper furnace
If you wanna run % attacks on rail you need either spread fire or run hestia aspect
plucky solstice
my death to meg comes in front of my eyes
i didnt beat the hades yet
is the rail best weapon to beat hades?
w aspects or smtn
proper furnace
Oh good thought i accidentally spoiled
plain river
is the rail best weapon to beat hades?
There is no “best weapon”
plucky solstice
There is no “best weapon”
i understand that now
stable cove
any vids online you watched vs the heros? prob easier to see in action the various things talked about here
plucky solstice
yeah i watched
plain river
What weapon do you currently enjoy running the most
plucky solstice
w the bow and the trident
plain river
which aspects
plucky solstice
for trident zag and for bow
proper furnace
How much blood you have remaining?
plucky solstice
the second one
plucky solstice
How much blood you have remaining?
2
proper furnace
Have you beated meg with all weapons?
plucky solstice
yeah
stable cove
they are quite hard though, bit of a jump from hydra/learnie. you can a lose a lot of health from the minotaur jumping around and then not have any left to deal with the other guy. if you don't use hestia, give zeus or dioynsis on attack for the rail a go
plain river
You said your chiron was at level 2 earlier?
plucky solstice
i accidentally used all my bloods for zag aspect for sword
plain river
i accidentally used all my bloods for zag aspect for sword
I’m fairly certain dionysus flourish with aphrodite attack is good on chiron bow at any level
then once it’s level 4 or 5 artemis flourish becomes a good option as well
plucky solstice
so the best attack is aphro i gues