Lmao fair
#h1-builds-and-combat
tight basin
plain river
essentially playing aspectless
tight basin
Okay but funky shields go wheee
cunning urchin
their* shield 
plain river
whoops
plain river
Make you think it’s good like demeter
tight basin
the aspect or the shield itself
plain river
But then it isn’t
narrow halo
The shield
plain river
the shield as a whole?
narrow halo
Why anyone would pick it over anything else
tight basin
well it can block attacks from the front if you charge bull rush
the bull rush gives you iframes
plain river
and its actually quite good
narrow halo
No i mean the aspect itself
plain river
Uh
narrow halo
The special attack
tight basin
wait i thought we were discussing chaos shield not aspect of chaos
proper furnace
Bow is overall good
narrow halo
So the shields are just zues and thats about it
proper furnace
Tho if you go high heat then hera is the one thag fall offs the hardest
plain river
Shields are everything but chaos aspect
everything but chaos is amazing… chaos is just 
Aspectless
proper furnace
Aspect of charged shot
narrow halo
What about the spears
plain river
Uhh
narrow halo
What pointless and what not
proper furnace
All of them are hammer reliant
tight basin
So the shields are just zues and thats about it
are you saying that none of the shield aspects are good except zeus?
plain river
Everything but guan-yu
tight basin
because that isn't really true
proper furnace
Except achilles can also go the cast builds route
plain river
Everything but guan-yu
imo
proper furnace
Spear is: hammer or suffer
tight basin
achilles and guan yu are probably the only good spear aspects, idek what zag aspect does for it lol
random relic
increased special damage
plain river
Zag aspect improves special
proper furnace
achilles and guan yu are probably the only good spear aspects, idek what zag asp...
+25% special dmg and distance
plain river
special range, speed and damage iirc
tight basin
ah
narrow halo
From what I understand the rails are only second one and last one for the beam attack
tight basin
that's just like
random relic
in other words: garbage
tight basin
very worse achilles aspect lol
narrow halo
Then the gloves only demetre
proper furnace
You can either go lite hades spear or lite achilles depending on the hammers
tight basin
From what I understand the rails are only second one and last one for the beam a...
hestia is really good as well
narrow halo
Then the bows almost all relevant
random relic
From what I understand the rails are only second one and last one for the beam a...
eris and hestia are best, luci and zag rail are pretty good
plain river
Demeter and gilgamesh are good
random relic
zag rail is the worst of them all
tight basin
all the bows are pretty good as well
proper furnace
Luci is good yeah, just outclassed by a lot because eris and hesty exists
tight basin
also my homie just glossed over shield saying zeus was the only viable one as if beo isn't busted
plain river
Best to worst: Arthur, nemesis, pos, zag
plain river
also my homie just glossed over shield saying zeus was the only viable one as if...
Everything but chaos aspect is great
random relic
bruh lmao arthur
proper furnace
Put pos on top cuz it makes you not play sword
tight basin
Everything but chaos aspect is great
yeah but they said that shield was just zeus
tight basin
Put pos on top cuz it makes you not play sword
true lmao
plain river
Put pos on top cuz it makes you not play sword
tight basin
+50% cast damage i think right
proper furnace
And dislodge when using special
tight basin
yep
plain river
And dislodge as special
proper furnace
Which is like only useful for bosses but still
plain river
Just don’t get exit wounds pilled
proper furnace
Exit wounds is a scam
tight basin
i like exit wounds with pos sword because i'm usually running artemis cast and exit wounds can lead to legendary artemis
won't pom it but i like taking it lol
proper furnace
Artemis cast 
plain river
Arte cast?
tight basin
Artemis cast <:volfredthink:459075378091393034>
by brother in christ i am not good at aiming
narrow halo
also my homie just glossed over shield saying zeus was the only viable one as if...
Am asking not giving an opinion
proper furnace
by brother in christ i am not good at aiming
Just shoot point blank
Specially if you go phalanx lol
tight basin
fair
proper furnace
You have a big deflect hitbox
plain river
Is: Pos cast pos sword then grab dem and arte duos large brain?🧠
tight basin
oh yeah when i used pos sword i used to try and get mirage shot lmao
proper furnace
I barely force mirage outside of beo
And eris cuz it is basically bound to appear
narrow halo
How can you guys get past playing the rail with rockets and another hammer upgrade then go back to any other weapon
proper furnace
Casts fun
narrow halo
I find myself turning off the game after every other rockets run
proper furnace
Or huge powershots
narrow halo
Unless i choose rockets again lol
proper furnace
Or simply charged shot, is clean
tight basin
wait im not understanding the situation here
narrow halo
Rockets with 5 spread upgrades are the chunkiest damage
tight basin
you only play the rail if you get rockets? am i reading that right?
narrow halo
No am saying i can’t go back playing any other weapon when i finish a rocket run
tight basin
ah
plain river
Huh
tight basin
because beo is more fun lmao
proper furnace
Clockets just hit right when it happens
Tho is also fun some hazard bomb runs every once in a while
proper furnace
Trippy flare ln beo can even more stupid than that
narrow halo
And it didn’t take much effort only maintaining the cast boon with the upgrade flower I don’t know whats it’s name
plain river
Beowulf with trippy flare is winning
narrow halo
With 3 cast damage from chaos
plain river
pomegranates
proper furnace
Beowulf with trippy flare is winning
Wheb you get everything going your way
Otherwise is just sad
plain river
Everything goes my way
narrow halo
Trippy flare ln beo can even more stupid than that
Whats beo?
proper furnace
Ok cheat engine
proper furnace
Whats beo?
Hidden aspect of the shield
tight basin
hidden aspect of shield
proper furnace
If you have played hera bow is like that but broken
tight basin
straight up nukes rooms
narrow halo
Oh
tight basin
mirage shot on beowulf does +100% bonus damage instead of 30% and it is very fun
narrow halo
But when you have that you won’t get the 150% from the spear anymore
proper furnace
And poms on trippy flare beo do double of what they say
tight basin
oh this does more damage than the spear
narrow halo
mirage shot on beowulf does +100% bonus damage instead of 30% and it is very fun
Fr? Why it does that
tight basin
no clue
plain river
it’s broken
proper furnace
Cuz yeah
tight basin
will it be fixed? absolutely not because supergiant games has taken the bethesda route and it is now a feature and we love them for that
proper furnace
So yeah mirage is just a x2 dmg multiplier
Unless you are playing thunder flare
...for whatever reason
tight basin
lmao
sterile fiber
I did 40 heat Hera with all the burst damage casts and here's the review nobody asked for
Crush shot: meta for a reason
Trippy Flare: like Dio Beo, needs chaos luck to get going but good when it does. Fog stun is handy on FO2.
Flood Shot: AoE good but can be sad when low rarity, also excess casts run away. Higher chances for Mirage but my winning run didn't have it
Phalanx Shot: like Flood but trades AoE for more damage, personally I found it better, plus SD refill access. Same runaway problems, esp with faster speed than Flood.
Electric Shot: surprisingly pretty okay, though bounces don't always hit enemies. Needs Static in later regions for damage.
True shot: also sad when no rarity, but excess casts will home in so the damage is less wasted, and less runaway issues (still exists though). Technically opens up Mirage and Mark, but without another crit source, Mark can be hard to get going.
proper wharf
But crystals tho
sterile fiber
But my sanity
Crystal Clarity is already ranged so Hera or not doesn't make a difference, and my sanity can't take 40 heat Cold Embrace 
Like I could get the Duo and then roll for rod and not pick up the casts
proper wharf
ebon epoch
Is the Orpheus keepsake any good?
ebon epoch
Extra damage to distant foes
plain river
not good
random relic
they banned it from speedrunning
ebon epoch
I thought le Plume was best. Who needs to actually aim for a specific build when you're fast as frick? 
(I am of course joking)
tight basin
plume with zag fists would rack up a lot of dodge %
ebon epoch
I'm not surprised the Yu-Gi-Oh reference is based
plain river
Pot of greed is my favourite keepsake
ebon epoch
Hey man, do you know how hard it is for me to read that and not ask what it does? Unfair, bro
ebon epoch
Time to make it to the surface with Guan Yu! How do I play Guan Yu, and how should I be building
plain river
Basically ever heard of super soaker for lucifer?
proper wharf
Bet it all on special
plain river
ebon epoch
Literally just special spam?
proper wharf
Save up some titan blood cos it's pretty excruciating at low level
cunning urchin
Time to make it to the surface with Guan Yu! How do I play Guan Yu, and how shou...
Guan Yu guide: #h1-discussion message
sterile fiber
My man Orphy why must your item be bad
plain river
Tbf a bunch of items are bad
dreamy prism
feather duster moment
ebon epoch
Guan Yu guide: https://discord.com/channels/456889434672201729/52042992972123346...
Ty fam!
random relic
honestly i feel like feather duster is worse than distant memory
having used neither
sterile fiber
You can see duster in action but not distant memery
random relic
true
sterile fiber
it's capped at one wrap per room I've heard which is also a scam
sterile fiber
Maybe right at the very edge? Idk
random relic
well you could run away while the casts are popping
random relic
idk im just trying to think of a potential use for it lol
sterile fiber
The thing with distant memery is that Earring exists
With SD you're in the range most of the time
cunning urchin
Distant Memory range isn't unreasonable per se, it's just not good enough regardless.
strange idol
has anyone got any good tips/builds for beating EM4 hades
unkempt geyser
the one time this channel is dead 😭
tight basin
well i'm here i just dont have good advice lol
the only thing i can think of is just learn the attack pattern and that's about it lmao
ebon epoch
I received basically the same advice for EM4 Hades lol.
I was told there are no tricks and that you must git gud.
tight basin
i forgot what weapon i used to beat it lmao
i think i used fists and got it on my second try or something idk
i heard chiron can work well with it, hestia probably works
beo maybe
strange lark
beo is the best weapon for em4 yeah
ebon epoch
I've been trying to get good enough at it that I can add other sources of heat to it.
plain river
Are scintillating feast and ice wine compatable
strange lark
yeah
strange lark
its fun at low heat
ebon epoch
Beo is so based
strange lark
beo is decent
tight basin
beo is just the only thing i'm remotely decent at lol
ebon epoch
I just think it's cool. I don't know what is considered the best or anything.
Guan Yu is lame because I'm bad at it, not because it's not a good weapon.
I just realized I don't know why I was saying "For instance"
strange lark
guan yu is very good
tight basin
we can all agree that chaos aspect is lame tho lmao
strange lark
chaos is the best shield aspect
strange lark
huge catch
plain river
I figured as much
random relic
huge catch is so good on first 10 runs
lucid oar
Rush kick
primal cape
anyone know if the attack distance hammer on spear changes the dash attack?
plain river
It doesn’t
primal cape
It doesn’t
that was the impression i got but couldn't really tell
sterile fiber
But crystals tho
alright
episode 2 of "40 heat Hera cast reviews that nobody asked for":
Cold Embrace: pretty neat, but needs luck in Tartarus to get other offensive boons to tide you till the Duo, especially if you get early Flurry Shot that makes the crystal spawn behind the enemies and not hit what you're aiming for.
Hunting Blades: can get fumbly when aiming since you want the casts to spawn in front of the enemies. Inconsistent against fast enemies like Aspho bombers and FO2 dad
Blizzard Shot: less runaway issues than Flood or Phalanx, but still needs good aiming to maximize damage
proven osprey
I'm sorry but I stopped reading when I saw "neat" near "Cold embrace"
I really tried that thing
proper wharf
Probably quite cool with hera though
sterile fiber
now thinking about it, Demeter really likes messing with casts
she has 2 Duos that change her own cast, and 3 other Duos that change others' casts
With Zeus she needs his T2, leaving Athena the only easy to get duo
proven osprey
I tried it with Hera too. I think I spent 3 minutes fighting Asterius as a mini boss
If you're on flurry that also means you lose boiling blood
primal cape
what cast build do you like with the shield?
sterile fiber
I tried it with Hera too. I think I spent 3 minutes fighting Asterius as a mini ...
I didn't really try making the cast my main damage source which probably improved my experience
also crystal beam start means I don't have boiling blood regardless
sterile fiber
is curse of drowning disabled on Hera
tight basin
yeah
sterile fiber
But saying it's neat I thought you went all in on that
I think I said it's neat just because it feels like cold embrace Actually Works Now
scarlet ingot
I really like the aspect of chiron bow but thats my personal bias
Idk which combination is the most efficient
valid dagger
The first thing you have to understand about the Bow in order for it to not feel clunky is Dash strikes and Powershots, if you hold your attack button for a brief moment, there is a quick flash, which is your cue to release the attack button to let out a Powershot, which does more damage, it also has a different sound which you can use to know whether you were successful or not, with enough time and practice this will be 100% instinct and you wont even think about it nor need the sound or the flash, the other basic thing is dash-striking, dash-strikes are important for the bow because it makes the attack charge faster, therefore getting to that Powershot window quicker, which means you can let out more arrows compared to doing standing strikes only, the "giveaway" is that Powershots deal a bit less damage, however they have better scaling options through Chaos and Hunter Dash, since they benefit from Attack (strike) buffs and Dash-strike (lunge) buffs, standing attacks only benefit from Attack buffs. To make sure that you're dash striking you can look at the way Zag is holding the bow, if it's vertical then it's a dash strike, if it's horizontal then it's not, there is also quite a noticeable difference in terms of charging speed of the attack so it should be obvious which is which, these are things you have to familiarize yourself with in order to play bow well, it's sort of like a rhythm which you get used to eventually.
tight basin
put aphrodite on the attack, she has the largest % modifier so she's one of the best options.
not sure what exactly do to for special, but i think you want to pick up a god's boon that gives it bonus flat damage like dionysus or zeus
for chiron bow definitly use dionysus on the special and pom the crap out of it
dreamy prism
special is usually not really worth using
tight basin
true
dreamy prism
can be useful to put ares on it for dooming everything or even athena for big deflect in a pinch
tight basin
only on chiron and rama
dreamy prism
if you get charged volley special can become a big source of damage
then you'd want aphro arty or even demeter on it
dreamy prism
indeed
for zag bow if you aren't good with the rhythm of the dstrike sequence look for flurry shot
stone cypress
The first thing you have to understand about the Bow in order for it to not feel...
tysm for this !! my problem is how clunky it feels which is why i use fists its so much smoother
but imma learn bow
turbid needle
any good build for the fist of gilgamesh
tight basin
i'm fairly certain gilgamesh is considered one of the more not-so-great aspects in this game lol
ME always works well, change the mirror upgrade for +1 dash to the other one
dreamy prism
any good build for the fist of gilgamesh
ME best for gilgy
since you have three dashes and global damage via ruthless reflex
issue with that is if you don't get ME build going you're kinda out of luck
sterile fiber
Tidal dash + Razor Shoals and Thunder dash + Static Discharge is good too
Gilga can hold down dash to multidash
stone cypress
whats the best asepect for bow and how do i utilize it
tight basin
honestly all the bow aspects are good in their own regard
stone cypress
my playstyle is dashingg around spamming charged attacks
tight basin
zag bow gives extra crit chance, chiron bow can have insane dps as long as it has a good level on it, hera bow can dish out huge chunks
stone cypress
i heard the bow special is bad tho?
tight basin
chiron is the only bow where the special is good
stone cypress
oh lmao
tight basin
when you land an attack, your next specials for a short period of time will home into the target
stone cypress
i have 4 titan blood will chiron be good enough if i invest all of the bloods into it
tight basin
i dont think so
stone cypress
when you land an attack, your next specials for a short period of time will home...
all the little arrows too?
tight basin
wdym little arrows
dreamy prism
indeed
stone cypress
or just like 2 orb 3
tight basin
all the arrows from the special home in
stone cypress
ah
tight basin
but well
stone cypress
oh but the max shots are reduced
tight basin
chiron bow is pretty bad until it gets to level 4-5
dreamy prism
yep gotta upgrade it to be good
tight basin
idk how great it is at lvl 3 but 4 is decent enough, 5 is max
stone cypress
should i save until then because rn i make it to minotaur every time and just end yp dying shortly after
tight basin
with 4 titan blood i think it'll only go to lvl 2
tight basin
as long as you have the titan blood
stone cypress
how do i get titan blood fast
dreamy prism
max out a good aspect then keep beating the game while upping the heat one at a time
tight basin
the simple way is to just keep finishing runs and it'll eventually stack up
the other way is to trade ambrosia for titan blood.
when you beat elysium, you get a thing called "ambrosia". it's pretty useless until later in the game, and by the time it's useful, ideally you'll be better at the game and have more ambrosia.
the ambrosia can be traded for titan blood in the lounge back at the house
stone cypress
i think i get one titan blood everytime i beat a fury with a nrw weapon
dreamy prism
but you can't get more by upping the heat until you beat the final boss as well
stone cypress
what do yall reccomend i do rnm
what is the heat why am i upping it i dont know what this means
tight basin
with 4 titan blood you'll have 5 special arrows which isn't terrible tbh
tight basin
lvl 2 chiron still kinda sucks but it's not the worst in the world, esp considering that lvl 0 zag bow's special is just useless
tight basin
so now I just do runs or wha
yeah
nothing else to do in the game other than do runs lol
stone cypress
okay thank you guys!!!
dreamy prism
start with dionysus and get the special
stone cypress
awesome server very helpful
dreamy prism
then in asphodel take aphrodite on attack if you don't have it already
tight basin
oh yeah starting keepsakes are important lol
stone cypress
start with dionysus and get the special
how do u choose who to start with
dreamy prism
keepsakes chief
stone cypress
who
tight basin
have you been giving nectar to people
stone cypress
ya
tight basin
next to your sword in the courtyard there should be like a giant box
interact with that and you can choose a keepsake
stone cypress
oh ya
tight basin
if you have dionysus', take his
stone cypress
damn i have everyone except him
tight basin
there should also be a contractor upgrade where you can change keepsakes between biomes
stone cypress
I'll go find him
stone cypress
yes i got that upgrade
tight basin
artemis on special isn't too bad
stone cypress
i just use the lucky tooth fir more lives cuz i suck
tight basin
use lucky tooth for elysium
stone cypress
aphrodite attack right?
stone cypress
Artimes special?
tight basin
take her special, once you get to asphodel take aphrodite and get her attack
yeah
i'm pretty sure that's what people do for an alternative lol
stone cypress
OKAY im ready to succeed
tight basin
the duo between artemis and aphrodite makes you deal more critical damage and since you're hitting the same target multiple times with your special, it'll deal more damage
stone cypress
i take the artemis special right?
tight basin
yes
stone cypress
OKOK thank you
tight basin
np
tight basin
on second thought it might be better for you to go to sleep lol
tight basin
lmao okay buddy
valid dagger
just 1 more
stone cypress
is daedelus good for bow
tight basin
oh yeah
there's a few good hammers for bow
one of them gives you more special arrows
dreamy prism
bow has some of the best hammers
stone cypress
the one that turns the attack into 3 is really good right
tight basin
another one makes the special arrows deal +3 more damage per hit
tight basin
the one that turns the attack into 3 is really good right
i heard this is good but i never understood why lol
stone cypress
i did that and used it like a shotgun
dreamy prism
that's the dream for chiron
stone cypress
i heard this is good but i never understood why lol
its fun
dreamy prism
i heard this is good but i never understood why lol
it can triple your damage at the cost of being less safe
proven osprey
Triple damage at point blank range is quite good isn't it?
stone cypress
yes its a shotgun
proven osprey
If you don't want to take the risk it's more aoe anyway
tight basin
well my issue with it is like the bow is meant to be more ranged so you can deal more damage with the perfect shot but now you have to get up close to their face and try not to get slapped before you can loose the shot
stone cypress
okay relentless volley or tripleshot
tight basin
relentless
stone cypress
well my issue with it is like the bow is meant to be more ranged so you can deal...
true
tight basin
because chiron
dreamy prism
relentless is good on chiron
dreamy prism
chiron's specialty is boss damage
tight basin
that's pretty good luck getting relentless on underleveled chiron lol
proven osprey
It's more about knowing the ennemies patterns to land a perfect shot. Range gives you safety but in the end game knowledge will reward you
tight basin
now it's like max chiron
stone cypress
this game is so amazing man i love it
i just got ilit on gamepass yesterday
i love how even tho the main cycle is the same it feels so different every run
tight basin
It's more about knowing the ennemies patterns to land a perfect shot. Range give...
true, i think part of my disdain for triple shot is that i've tried it with rama and rama just charges too slow to get a perfect shot in before you get slapped
proven osprey
It's excellent on Rama put it's far from easy to pull it off
dreamy prism
twin rama gang
dreamy prism
supergiant is a coward for not letting us combine the two
proven osprey
True
tight basin
yeah i had a run where i got both twin and triple for options and i was thinking "well triple shot is hard to pull off but i heard it's good" so i picked it and got promptly slapped going forward lmao
proven osprey
Yeah that's gonna happen
stone cypress
the special isnt homing am i doing smth wrong
tight basin
the targetting thingy goes away after a bit
if you spam the special right after landing an attack, you should get 3 specials off before it goes away
stone cypress
so i hit with normal attack and instantly press special
okay maybe i did it wrong thanks
tight basin
oh you probably have to wait until your attack actually lands sometimes lol
if they're a bit far and you spam special right after you shoot there's a decent chance you'll use your special before the atk lands
stone cypress
LMFAO i probably did that
wait its still not working
maybe i dont have the bow equipped idk
dreamy prism
hit B and look at what aspect you have
dreamy prism
whatever button shows your boons
tight basin
if you have chiron equipped you should have a bow icon somewhere of some degree of rarity
dreamy prism
that's just the sidebar that's always there
tight basin
if you look at your boon info it should also show your hammer
stone cypress
if you look at your boon info it should also show your hammer
yes I see that
did i really forget to equip the weapon 💀💀
tight basin
and when you hover over every icon none of them say "aspect of chiron"?
honestly if that's the case
stone cypress
no 😭😭😭😭
tight basin
pause and hit "give up" and take the exact route you did if you can remember
tight basin
oh lmao
tight basin
just hit give up and upgrade chiron again, equip the keepsake
tight basin
do i just run into lava
tbh no
you got a good hammer
was it at the very start?
hitting "give up" saves the seed and relentless volley on your underleveled chiron would be extremely good
stone cypress
OK imma stop here its 3 am lmfao
tight basin
just remember what you did until you get the hammer
because the hammer is all that matters tbh
stone cypress
thamks for the help bananas!!!
tight basin
gn
turbid needle
any good build for lucifer
dreamy prism
any good build for lucifer
zeus attack, big +%/arty special
lucifer's strongest hammer by a mile is triple bomb
get jolted as well, divine dash helps a lot because lucifer's attack can't destroy projectiles or stutter enemies
lusty valve
What is considered to be the best defensive build to run with in Hades, in your opinions?
valid dagger
What is considered to be the best defensive build to run with in Hades, in your ...
There are a lot of builds with no clear best, but shields come to mind first
Mainly Zeus and Beowulf
They can output really good damage while having a bullrush to block/iframe everything
You can pair Zeus Shield with Merciful End, preferably Ares on the Special, or you can run Thunder Flourish and look for more Zeus, for Beowulf you can go for the classic Flood Flare + Artemis Attack -> Mirage Shot or Passion Flare + Snow Burst + Pstatus
These builds wont simply make you win, and other weapons such as Hestia, Guan Yu, Arthur, Eris etc can be plenty safe if you play them well enough
lusty valve
I see. I'll definitely try this out. I recently unlocked Beowulf so that's good. Thanks for the quick and helpful response
proven osprey
Aspect of safety, Guan Yu
valid dagger
any good build for shield of chaos
Main build is going to the courtyard and swapping to another weapon
You can start with Zeus and take his Special, and look for a lot of Zeus and maybe external damage sources aside from your Special, such as a big call like Zeus or Dio
The other way to play it is to totally ignore your Special and look for Charged Shot (hammer) and get a strong % attack boon
Aphro ideally, Artemis works but it's a bit underwhelming without Chaos
valid dagger
You can start with Zeus and take his Special, and look for a lot of Zeus and may...
For this build Cshot is still really good but not needed, other options would be Explosive Return, Breaching Rush, Sudden Rush, Ferocious Guard followed by Pulv blow and probably the other Special hammers like Empowering Flight etc, avoid Dread Flight because it's pain
sterile fiber
chiron is the only bow where the special is good
special only Rama has entered the chat
tight basin
that's a different issue lmao
nocturne ether
when going for certain builds on an aspect would it be fine to use the gods keepsake to force a chance of the boon or would it better using a keepsake with more utility, and just hoping the god is in the pool
valid dagger
That's almost always the strat
God keepsakes for tart and aspho and utility/defensive keepsakes for ely and styx
sterile fiber
Outside of certain builds, usually the first 2 regions use gods to get the build, then third and forth uses something defensive to survive the boss fights
nocturne ether
ohh ok
yeah ive been missing out on that, i usually use the god keepsakes then forget to switch them for something more useful
sterile fiber
If you're good at bossing, Elysium can be another god, and last 2 regions can also take offensive keepsakes
General offensive/defensive items can even be taken in Aspho if the build gets together in Tartarus
nocturne ether
i usually lose 1 death defiance on theseus and asterius so i need to work on improving in that fight
nocturne ether
General offensive/defensive items can even be taken in Aspho if the build gets t...
yeah that makes sense
sterile fiber
I have a couple hundred hours and still forget to switch keepsakes sometimes
nocturne ether
i remember reading about people with a ton of time in the game never noticing you could get additional mirror upgrades with keys
its kinda easy to miss so i dont blame them but its funny lmao
sterile fiber
Or the green side
nocturne ether
yeah
sterile fiber
The mirror UI really needs to prevent you from leaving until you show you know where the green skills are
plain river
I played for what felt like a long long time before realising that there was the green side for the mirror
nocturne ether
The mirror UI really needs to prevent you from leaving until you show you know w...
do the devs make updates like this outside of just bug fixes and stuff
sterile fiber
not anymore
nocturne ether
oh
plain river
there is a whole document of bugs that gets passed around every so often
bug fixes don't happen any more
right?
cunning urchin
i usually lose 1 death defiance on theseus and asterius so i need to work on imp...
The Evergreen Acorn will probably take care of that.
cunning urchin
bug fixes don't happen any more
Not if it affects the balance.
Pretty sure they only patch critical bugs at this point, like game crashes and stuff.
nocturne ether
also on rama is it really worth it to powershot considering how long it takes to charge up even on dash strike
dreamy prism
also on rama is it really worth it to powershot considering how long it takes to...
yep
valid dagger
So on chiron am I looking for artemis or aphrodite flourish?
Aphrodite’s isn’t that amazing on Chiron
Look for Artemis Dionysus or Poseidon on your Special
cunning urchin
It's better than Deadly Flourish on its own. But Heartbreak Strike + Deadly Flourish and Heart Rend will do a lot more damage.
Also benefits more from Chaos boons, items, etc.
Heartbreak Flourish with Unhealthy Fixation is pretty amazing though, like you can virtually perma-charm Hades with that and Relentless Volley.
Less DPS, of course, but also very safe.
random relic
Heartbreak Flourish with Unhealthy Fixation is pretty amazing though, like you c...
does charm time stack?
cunning urchin
And your Special still benefits a lot from Chaos boons etc., just benefits less than with crits.
cunning urchin
does charm time stack?
No, but your Charm success rate per Volley is very high.
random relic
ah true
cunning urchin
I'd say if you're going for Heartbreak Flourish, you'd want Privileged Status to benefit from that and help with damage.
Special aside, Chiron builds god gauge very fast, so make sure you pick up a good Call.
And Chiron really really sucks in Satyr tunnels, so wanna pick up AOE for that. Flood Shot or Tidal Dash with Breaking Wave ideally, maybe Smair with Zeus'Aid, something like that.
lucid oar
What really matters for all % special boons is getting epic swift flourish and conc+relentless volley
cunning urchin
There's also a big gap between common Heartbreak Flourish and Epic Heartbreak Flourish if you want to go that route. I'd pick up an epic Flourish when starting Eternal Rose but otherwise just take Strike and go for Heart Rend, Low Tolerance, etc.
cunning urchin
What really matters for all % special boons is getting epic swift flourish and c...
The epic Rush Delivery Clockets of Chiron runs.
nova shale
plain river
Which hammers am I looking for on gilgamesh?
tight basin
currently playing beowulf without a cast on it because i sold the mirror to get the chaos theme and i dont have enough to get a single reroll
and i gotta say
i should've just taken the shackle at the start lmao
random relic
currently playing beowulf without a cast on it because i sold the mirror to get ...
ok what on earth is wrong with you
tight basin
lmao
i thought it would be fun
and honestly it kinda is
fun in the sense that it's funny
random relic
thats what i thought about putting an art of war on my rots
plain river
Why’d you sell your mirror for the chaos theme
tight basin
debating whether or not to actually commit to no cast beo run and just take the shackle lmao
currently in asphodel with aphrodite keepsake and this idea sounds like a great idea
tight basin
Why’d you sell your mirror for the chaos theme <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
idk
because chaos theme
finish a contract
plain river
I got it too but without the selling mirror part
tight basin
i would've gotten it too if i didn't spend it on the resource director
random relic
call is always great
dreamy prism
call best
random relic
esp on luci bc it attacks fast
dreamy prism
special is kinda ok too since super soaker without forced ddash has a hard time setting off bombs
so bombs can zap kinda
sterile fiber
early call will lower chances of getting Hyper sprint
plain river
early call will lower chances of getting Hyper sprint
Huh?
Oh wait it opens the one boon that gives call % ever x seconds
lucid oar
Call is the best one that unlocks double strike
And double strike is insane for soaker
valid dagger
Oh wait it opens the one boon that gives call % ever x seconds
It also opens Second wind
sterile fiber
Oh wait it opens the one boon that gives call % ever x seconds
Smair at home
stone cypress
whats the best fists aspect
lucid oar
Demeter
plain river
Demeter (or gilgamesh)
lucid oar
The special turns into a nuke
random relic
especially with certain hammers
tight basin
Explosive upper is an actual nuke lol
stone cypress
is there a keepsake for guaranteed hammer?
tight basin
Nope
Hammers generally don't make or break a build it's just meant for an improvement
strange lark
yeah thats called modded
dreamy prism
Hammers generally don't make or break a build it's just meant for an improvement
cskewer moment
stone cypress
should i use my titan blood on upgrading chiron or buy the demeter fists
dreamy prism
should i use my titan blood on upgrading chiron or buy the demeter fists
depends on your goals
are you trying to win with every weapon once?
stone cypress
well i still havent beating the final boss so
dreamy prism
bow >>> fists for first clear
upgrade chiron and keep running it back until you win
proper furnace
How much blood you have/chiron lvl?
stone cypress
chiron level 2 i have 1 blood but do i use my ambrosia to trade for it?
tight basin
If you do would that make it lvl 3?
stone cypress
lemme chfck
dreamy prism
levels are good on chiron but low level you can make do
random relic
Hammers generally don't make or break a build it's just meant for an improvement
triple bomb moment
dreamy prism
dio really just needs lvl2 to be good enough
random relic
ok tbf luci isnt that bad without triple but its not fun
proper furnace
Hammers generally don't make or break a build it's just meant for an improvement
Flurry jab/Dedge looking at you
dreamy prism
ok tbf luci isnt *that* bad without triple but its not fun
I think it sucks tbh
stone cypress
If you do would that make it lvl 3?
no i would need one more
dreamy prism
hate it
proper furnace
Charged shot on high heat zag shield too
random relic
40>95 ngl
tight basin
no i would need one more
If you have 2 ambrosia then you could if you want
tight basin
Or that
dreamy prism
start with dio special
then if you don't have it, aphro in asphodel for attack
aim for their duo boon low tolerance, it's good
stone cypress
how do u get duo boons
dreamy prism
once you have the prerequisite boons they can show up from either of the two gods
just from their regular boon offerings
stone cypress
oh thank you!!!
i really like the gun omg
i just beat meg without taking any damage
narrow moss
good evening !
any1 knows any decent build for hera's bow ? ( besides arty cast build )
plain river
Is dio cast broken on hera like it is on beowulf?
plain river
how do u get duo boons
Generally most of them require core boons like attack, special, cast, dash or call from 2 different gods, then each individual one might have a little change in it’s prerequisites like it needs specifically posiedon cast or demeter cast or something that can provoke doom from ares
random relic
Is dio cast broken on hera like it is on beowulf?
it gets mirage bug but not pom scaling i think
proper furnace
Yeah
sterile fiber
I did 40 heat Hera with all the burst damage casts and here's the review nobody ...
@narrow moss
oh and snow Burst good
spiral flax
What hammers are best for rail? Ik delta and rocket ones are useful but unsure outside of that
random relic
for zag rail- spread fire is the best, you use artemis attack with it
for eris- rocket is the best, and with cluster it becomes amazing. any special focused hammers are always good
for hestia- anything that buffs your special (like clockets or hazard bomb). ricochet fire can also be good
for lucifer- triple bomb is by far the best hammer as the special becomes useable
dreamy prism
sadly rocket > cluster
I like cluster too because buffing is trivial but rocket ultimately is way faster for tartarus and asphodel
plain river
I think it’s rockets then cluster, because despite cluster giving you slightly better odds of getting rockets, taking rockets makes you both more likely to get to the 2nd hammer and will likely make you reach said 2nd hammer faster
random relic
i love rocket anyway
such a fun hammer
first time i tried it i really wanted to combo it with hazard
then i learned you cant
so sad
imagine hocket
dreamy prism
hocket would be balanced if you couldn't use at close range without instant dashing to avoid self damage
random relic
i mean thats already clockets though
except there is no self damage
its just pure bliss
clever phoenix
I like cluster too because buffing is trivial but rocket ultimately is way faste...
ah cool
plain river
I have flurry jab already, should I grab serrated point, breaching skewer or extending jab? Using aspect of achilles
I think it’s extending jab since I don’t think flurry jab and serrated work together
proper furnace
yeah not serrated
dreamy prism
extended probably
proper furnace
same issue as flurry slash where it messes the iframes
dreamy prism
I think you're supposed to standing strike with flurry so extended actually comes into play
proper furnace
it forces you to do a flurry attack after the dash strike
proper furnace
I think you're supposed to standing strike with flurry so extended actually come...
you still do dash strikes
dreamy prism
yeah of course
acoustic vale
You know long knuckle for fist? Imagine arthur had that. Imagine arthur with MORE damage and range
plain river
Are aphrodite and artemis flourish interchangable on eris?
uneven steppe
how do u install the codex mod its being weird 4 me
dreamy prism
Are aphrodite and artemis flourish interchangable on eris?
yeah both are good
arty preferred though since she benefits more from eris global +%
cunning urchin
how do u install the codex mod its being weird 4 me
Hades Modding server is pinned in #self-promotion. Best place to look for help with mods.
quick sky
For Eurydice what reward do you normally choose? What is normally best?
ebon epoch
Depends on what you already have or don't have.
quick sky
Yeah I know if you have some good ones it depends but there is probably one you default to no?
plain river
I default to the one that increase rarity
proper furnace
You default to nectar most of the times yeah
Guranteed rare + epic and legendary/duo change gud
tight basin
generally never take the increase rarity one
increased rarity is generally the same as a pom most of the time, the only ones that it really changes are hermes boons i think
proper furnace
I just said it also boosts duos/legendary chances
Also it working on hermes is still huge/chaos too
tight basin
oh i meant the one where it increases the rarity of 2 of your current boons
i probably should have clarified a lot more lol
the increased rarity nectar is very useful
proper furnace
ah that makes sense
dreamy prism
generally never take the increase rarity one
yep although some boons scale really hard on rarity and not level
I'd say if you only have two boons and both like rarity or you got strong hermes boons ambrosia is a valid pick over pom and nectar
and of course on AP2 ambrosia is the goat for locking out replacements via heroics
random relic
yeah ambrosia can be really good if you dont have many boons
and have something in your build already that wod benefit a lot from a rarity boost
turbid needle
Guys, what's the highest damage weapons/aspects? Aside from Coronacht.
valid dagger
Beowulf is up there
And probably the most consistently high damage output weapon compared to some of the other options
cunning urchin
Eris is up there, too.
ebon epoch
If I want to Hangover stack with gun, is Dio attack/Aphro special the way to go?
blissful barn
If I want to Hangover stack with gun, is Dio attack/Aphro special the way to go?
probably but honestly don't know
proper furnace
Aphro special works ye
I like aphro dash for that too
Cuz special still takes a while to land u less you have rocket
blissful barn
what is according to you guys the most fun build to use?
proper furnace
Trippy flare + beowulf shield
ebon epoch
I like aphro dash for that too
If I did Aphro dash, could I do Ares special and go for Ares/Dio duo as well?
Or is it not worth to try to go for too much at once?
blissful barn
i wouldn't do it
acoustic vale
Do they need to be good?
acoustic vale
Super Soaker
proper furnace
If I did Aphro dash, could I do Ares special and go for Ares/Dio duo as well?
I still would like aphro or a % special cuz it feels like a waste
Can always pickup curse of vengeance so you also dont open curse of longing
plain river
what is according to you guys the most fun build to use?
Gilgamesh merciful end
strange lark
i would go dio special for that
plain river
basically
If you have the aphrodite attack and the dionysus special (it’s really any boons from aphrodite or dionysus aside from trippy cast) then it’ll open up a special boon option
plain river
That lets you stack hangover on weak (the debuff from aphrodite) opponents up to 8 times rather than the usual 5
plain river
Plus if it’s aphrodite attack and dionysus special then you’ll be weakening them right before you hit them with your special
pallid walrus
so it also does massive dammage
plain river
Hammer-wise you’ll want relentless and concentrated volley (relentless over concentrated at your level I think)
pallid walrus
is piercing volley also okay?
plain river
I don’t like it on chiron because apparently it decreases your special range
pallid walrus
ok
dreamy prism
eh I think it's fine
helps with aoe which chiron sorely lacks
also very good in elysium
pallid walrus
ok
plain river
If you don’t get any volleys as options twin shot or triple shot (or flurry shot I think?) are your best other options
pallid walrus
ok
dreamy prism
yep as long as it doesn't mess with your ability to actually use the special
eg chain shot, explosive shot to an extent
pallid walrus
alr
plain river
Then if you see them take ares
pallid walrus
ok
plain river
And pick up the boon that provokes doom when you get hit
pallid walrus
ok
plain river
since that unlocks dio+ares duo which makes hangover tick every .35 seconds rather than every .5 seconds
Picking up artemis cast could help here but you’d be spreading yourself very thin in terms of your chances to find the duo boons
So I wouldn’t recommend it
If you have concentrated volley and happen to see a purple swift flourish on hermes take it
if it’s lower than purple than it’s irrelevant though
plain river
Really?
dreamy prism
sure purple + concentrated is super op but improving chiron's frame data by a lot is always worth it
I'd take rare swift flourish at a very high priority
chiron has issues and one of them is clunky and slow damage cycle
slow as in how responsive you are, not dps
swift flourish is huge for fixing that
also it's just a straight up multiplicative dps buff so yeah
tight basin
I think with even common swift flourish you can sneak in 4 specials in the time frame which can be nice against bosses
terse flume
So I am also newer, but I've done about 40 runs now and still not managed to down the last boss. I have tried several weapons and I prefer the shield, so far as I can tell.
tight basin
aphrodite atk, zeus call, smair spam probably
cunning urchin
That'll do it.
plain river
Which weapon cares the least about which boons you have on it?
random relic
uh... hestia...? i guess?
as long as theres a % attack its kinda fine
but i mean it still wants splash dash good special hammers and arty/aphro special
valid dagger
If you just wanna clear the game you basically need shackle and that's it
tight basin
so all you need then is shackle and splash dash
quick sky
Does Charon get stronger in later stages or does his fight stay the same no matter where you engage it?
valid dagger
Does Charon get stronger in later stages or does his fight stay the same no matt...
Same
tight basin
Technically he gets easier the more you go along because you'll have more boons and whatnot
ebon epoch
That's not a case of Charon changing but you becoming the escape artist you were destined to be before the narrator finally kills you again.
Who is the narrator btw?
dreamy prism
Who is the narrator btw?
I believe it's intentional by the devs that the narrator is homer
ebon epoch
Ooh interesting
strange lark
Who is the narrator btw?
your mom 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
dreamy prism
lmao
dreamy prism
Ooh interesting
but yeah there's a house decoration of a poet bust and it's modeled after depictions of homer
strange lark
homer simpson??
dreamy prism
and if you interact with it zag bugs the old man (narrator) until he gets annoyed
ebon epoch
your mom 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
I think my mom should lay off the smokes, then
dreamy prism
homer simpson??
yes
strange lark
aight
random relic
I believe it's intentional by the devs that the narrator is homer
oh wait, actually?
thats cool
me and homer share a lot in common actually
we both like donuts
gusty tulip
a hangover build would be funny
"and you're drunk, and you're drunk... EVERYBODY'S DRUNK!"
ebon epoch
I just did a hangover build with Demeter fists. Fun stuff.
terse flume
K, the simplest answer is probably just that I need to "git gud," but I have all the basic Mirror upgrades and the rest of my Darkness is now going to the Rare/Epic Increased chance. For going for a first Hades kill, is one weapon preferred over another? I'm still leaning towards the Shield, and I can get to the 3rd boss fight usually without losing a life, but I invariably will die once there and then twice on the last one.
ebon epoch
Do you have Skelly's keepsake? 
terse flume
I do, Tier 3.
I have zero Special Aspects unlocked for any of the weapons; it seems Titan's Blood is in short supply.
gusty tulip
aegis shield is broken
ebon epoch
Blood is a lot easier to come by when you get to clearing runs.
terse flume
I am a fan of shields, and tanky builds in general, but.
ebon epoch
Are you killing Asterius first in Elysium?
terse flume
Usually, yes, and I hide behind pillars to mitigate being hit by the spear-toss-and-return.
I tend to rely probably too heavily on dash-strikes, but I try to mix it up with specials, throws, and calls (if I have one).
ebon epoch
Dash strikes end your i-frames from the dash if you were not already aware
terse flume
...That is a significant thing of note.
Does an attack count as a block or only when I charge the shield-charge?
ebon epoch
Only when you charge the shield charge. Well-timed attacks can break projectiles tho.
sacred snow
tbh i tried the chiron build and its strong but i really dont enjoy the playstyle
anyone got suggestions? i play mainly sword and rail
acoustic vale
First: do you have any of the secret aspects
royal oyster
splitting bolt or purple zues aid for lightning eris
lucid oar
Splitting
pallid walrus
MOTHER FU-
acoustic vale
I personally prefer hidden sword
blissful barn
I prefer bow
grave wadi
I personally prefer hidden sword
I barely see anyone use the hidden sword even though it’s really good.
I grinded through like 16 heat levels with it easily
dreamy prism
I barely see anyone use the hidden sword even though it’s really good.
eh it's okay
good at low heat, gets bad at high heat
pallid walrus
i think imma get bow and sword
but i hate how u have to ge tthe spear first
like ugh
tight basin
hidden spear is the easiest one to get tho so it's not too terrible
pallid walrus
huh
pallid walrus
pls help how get tian blood
valid dagger
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woops
it was deleted fast enough idk who did it sorry for the ping
green birch
it was deleted fast enough idk who did it sorry for the ping
deleted fast likely because of your ping :) pinging the moderators whenever you see a scam or something fishy is always the right choice!
Anyways, what's the meta these days y'all
what weapon should I be sinking my time into
still a big Rama bow fan even if it's not the fastest per se
cunning urchin
Well, what's your goal?
proven osprey
green birch
uhhh... having fun, maybe clearing 16 heat, as a treat
cunning urchin
Rama will be great for that.
strange lark
still a big Rama bow fan even if it's not the fastest per se
rama is still second on the unmodded speedrun dot com leaderboard
valid dagger
I was always a Beowulf enjoyer
cunning urchin
Very pact resistant aspect, so you can choose any pact you like. Only thing you'd want to avoid on Rama is RI3+ because playing it with only a single dash is a pain.
Since you won't get distance to charge Power Shots.
Thunder Flourish start still the fastest for it, pretty sure, if you wanna be a little speedy with it.
strange lark
i use RI at 8 heat
dreamy prism
RI4?
lucid oar
Thunder Flourish start still the fastest for it, pretty sure, if you wanna be a ...
Yeah, and you can still get fast times by ignoring everything except the special, since it’s the only way to play that trashpect
dreamy prism
r!pasta rama
cunning urchin
Eh, Rama handles RI and AP a lot better than majority of aspects since you only need one boon to have a build... or just Shackle even. So it's not really a big deal if people wanna try those pacts.
random relic
rama is still second on the unmodded speedrun dot com leaderboard <:bouldy:52332...
yeah but thats ocaml
ionic sorrel
banana man
tight basin
doom is just, you hit them and 1 second later it deals extra damage
your boon impending doom makes it deal damage in 1.5 seconds but with 60% more damage which is pretty decent
although with chiron bow ares on your special isnt great to begin with lol
it's not bad but there are better things to get
someone here was able to get doom to hit for 600+ damage each time which isn't bad at all
since doom takes time to actually proc it's usually paired with the duo boon merciful end (athena-ares) where as soon as they are hit with deflect damage the doom hits immediately
tight basin
dire misfortune
ionic sorrel
your boon impending doom makes it deal damage in 1.5 seconds but with 60% more d...
I'm having flashbacks to path of exile, where the words "more" and "increased" mean completely different things
plain river
more doom hits= more damage
tight basin
I'm having flashbacks to path of exile, where the words "more" and "increased" m...
i think that's the same thing here?
like
say doom base damage is 100
impending doom would make it do 160 damage
and whatever you pom will make it deal more damage
tight basin
just pom whatever increases the most pretty much lol
pull out the calculator
oh also
regarding the butterfly keepsake
it's not great because to actually get good value out of it you need to equip it at the start or maybe even asphodel but you'll lose control of your build
tight basin
well you dont have control of your build because you're starting off with a random god
which depending on the weapon can be bad
for chiron bow, you typically want to get something for your special
ionic sorrel
true
tight basin
ares isn't great until you get dire misfortune, but you're not guaranteed that at all
typically you'd want dionysus or artemis so you start with either of their keepsakes
plain river
butterfly isn't great anyways because most damage increases including it are additive rather than multiplicative
tight basin
and then in asphodel you take aphrodite's for the attack and try to get the duo boon
ionic sorrel
butterfly isn't great anyways because most damage increases including it are add...
not again
its like im back in 'nam
plain river
tight basin
butterfly isn't great anyways because most damage increases including it are add...
on top of this if you get good boons for your attack and special the butterfly isn't gonna do much
tight basin
not again
honestly dw about whether something is additive or multiplicative because it really doesn't matter
plain river
on top of this if you get good boons for your attack and special the butterfly i...
I mean... artemis I guess? maybe? that's a very large stretch
tight basin
for low heat stuff at least
ionic sorrel
honestly dw about whether something is additive or multiplicative because it rea...
ik I was playing it up for the joke
tight basin
I mean... artemis I guess? maybe? that's a very large stretch
well it's like
if you were to start with butterfly instead of dio/arte you're more likely to deal more damage with dio/arte than butterfly by the end
unless you get really lucky
and get dio/arte start with aphrodite somewhere in tartarus
but also at the same time there's better keepsakes than butterfly
tight basin
the purse, hourglass, acorn, skelly
plain river
I swear it isn't 4 iq
tight basin
aphro attack dio special arte cast
ah yes my casts will do more critical damage
tight basin
oh arte dio duo increases crit rate forgot about that
might as well get curse of vengeance and get dio/ares duo
someone mod a run for that lmao
start with concentrated volley and mod the next 4 rooms to give exactly what you want
and then pray for duos
or whatever idk how the mod works
ionic sorrel
i dont really like hangover that much cuz the damage isnt blatantly obvious
plain river
it can be
ionic sorrel
like I know its there and its effective but the DOT effect is just kinda weird
tight basin
oh we forgot to mention the privileged status part of the build lol
plain river
I've hit everything unmodded in one run
random relic
not again
yeah damage and most other things are additive, some things are multiplicative
tight basin
like I know its there and its effective but the DOT effect is just kinda weird
hangover just makes certain builds more safe because it allows you to hit them less and you can run off to a different enemy while the other one eventually dies
dreamy prism
Delta chamber, targeting system or explosive fire on eris
delta
then poseidon dash to abuse iframes
targeting system is interesting because it's one of very few sources of "true" global +%
aka affecting companions as well
not sure if there's anything else other than sweet surrender but yeah targeting is an excellent option for that reason, delta is just too good though
proper furnace
not sure if there's anything else other than sweet surrender but yeah targeting ...
Maim
random relic
Delta chamber, targeting system or explosive fire on eris
if high heat? delta. if casually? delta. if speedrunning? targeting system
gusty rapids
deltas arguably better than targeting for speedrunning too fwiw
shell sleet
queen cape
deltas arguably better than targeting for speedrunning too fwiw
iframes go brrr
random relic
deltas arguably better than targeting for speedrunning too fwiw
but extra 30% global damage :(
queen cape
but extra 30% global damage :(
eris has 75% built in, likely 25% from family favorites... other potential sources like billowing, hades call, RD, etc, 30% starts to look kinda small compared to high damage uptime
25% from high confidence staying up due to i frames 
random relic
true
strange lark
fair deal tbh
plain river
Deal
cinder ledge
I just fought Hades himself for the first time. I didn’t do to bad, I got him about half health, which isn’t too bad considering I was half health going into the right and only had one death defiance.
tight basin
that's a good start
frail schooner
Has anything about the balance or the meta changed since the update where they un-nerfed eris back to 75%?
gusty rapids
well at least in speedrunning we realized eris isnt actually the greatest thing since sliced bread
gusty rapids
the fastest aspects are generally considered to be achilles, beowulf, hera, eris, hestia
proper furnace
We also have rama sneaking a second spot rn? Was first for a while
frail schooner
Hera surprises me, the rest i get
gusty rapids
still not generally considered a fast aspect we just have one (1) really good runner at it
its probably underrated
proper furnace
Hera gud