#h1-builds-and-combat

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hearty fractal
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hmm, maybe athena artemis?

cunning urchin
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Yeah, do that.

hearty fractal
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honestly, even if I lose, I'm happy

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I got 2 clears already today

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proud of myself

cunning urchin
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If she offers only Divine Dash and no Divine Strike, take the Dash.

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If she offers both and the Divine Strike is only common, take Dash.

hearty fractal
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I got a second athene boon

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hopefully I can grab dash

cunning urchin
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Oh you already started lol.

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Yeah, Divine Strike + Divine Dash should be a very chill run. Just gotta get Deadly Flourish after that.

hearty fractal
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im gonna grab riposte

cunning urchin
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What are the options?

hearty fractal
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for prophecy

cunning urchin
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Oh.

hearty fractal
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no dash - just cast and bronze skin

cunning urchin
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Yeah, always for the prophecy.

hearty fractal
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I finished it now

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150 gems

cunning urchin
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Brilliant Riposte unlocks her legendary, so you'll have a shot at that, too.

hearty fractal
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another athena boon

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special, cast, or blinding flash

cunning urchin
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Blinding Flash is good.

hearty fractal
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demeter boon

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lets see

cunning urchin
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Ah, should have skipped her probably.

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Oh well.

hearty fractal
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it wasnt a choice

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single path

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but anyway, its cast, dash or call

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call gives prophecy

cunning urchin
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Take that then.

hearty fractal
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lmao

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a room

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demeter and athena

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im taking demeter first

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not fighting her

cunning urchin
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lol

hearty fractal
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dash, revenge or ravenous will

cunning urchin
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Ravenous Will.

silver summit
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it's sad that athena trial is like one of the easiest because she's the last god i wanna betray ;w;

cunning urchin
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I always just take whoever I like more.

silver summit
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nyaanyaa you're an exception to everything i thought we already settled that

hearty fractal
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dash, death defiance or bronze skin

turbid needle
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Dash.

cunning urchin
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Dash.

hearty fractal
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and now an aphrodite boon

silver summit
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i usually save defiance until i lose them and past patroclus lol

hearty fractal
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special, revenge or dying lameent

cunning urchin
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What's the rarity on Heartbreak Flourish?

hearty fractal
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epic

cunning urchin
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Def take that.

hearty fractal
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ares or pom

cunning urchin
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Pom.

hearty fractal
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I really dont need more gods

cunning urchin
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You'll want to keep your 4th god slot open for Lady Artemis, ideally.

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The game will give you boons from random gods until you have boons from 4+ gods.

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Not counting Lord Hermes or Master Chaos.

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When you have 4+, you'll only see boons from the gods you already have.

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So taking Lord Ares would mean you'll only see Ladies Aphrodite, Athena, and Demeter and Lord Ares. But you want to get True Shot from Lady Artemis to unlock Support Fire and Deadly Reversal.

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Lord Ares doesn't really have anything you would want here.

hearty fractal
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so I take artemis for asphodel?

cunning urchin
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Yes.

hearty fractal
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long, heavy or colossus knuckle

silver summit
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i personally like long

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but i'm not nyaanyaa or an expert

hearty fractal
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its a % damage increase

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so idk

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seems good to me

silver summit
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also long

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i mean range

toxic river
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@cunning urchin i used one of your builds and i DELETED hades

silver summit
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range is honestly really helpful

cunning urchin
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Long Knuckle for sure.

toxic river
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i finished him off in just about one minute

cunning urchin
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Nice! Congratulations! dusa

toxic river
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i clipped the fight, and it took pretty much a single minute (30 seconds for each half)

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i just-

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wow

cunning urchin
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Sub 1 Hades fight is a good pace for speedruns if you're interested in that at all.

toxic river
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hm

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i'm not really the fastest (that run took like 20 mins)

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but i can give it a shot!

hearty fractal
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alright, artemis boon

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lets see

silver summit
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cue nyaanyaa linking the speedrun guide video with the hermes thumbnail in insert countdown

cunning urchin
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I don't really submit my runs to the speedrun leaderboard, either, but it's fun to just push for a good time.

silver summit
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support fire is pretty cool with fists rusty i think

cunning urchin
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And you learn a lot about builds.

silver summit
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pressure points too i think

cunning urchin
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Support Fire is a tier 2.

hearty fractal
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epic pressure points or epic true shot

cunning urchin
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True Shot.

silver summit
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i never said to get it right now though

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she's in the pool so i'm giving plans

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lul

cunning urchin
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Pressure Points is whatever. Support Fire and Deadly Reversal are what you want.

silver summit
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okey

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i mean it can be meh for speedruns since it takes time to loop around but i find it pretty good

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i mean i am bad so

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don't take my advice

cunning urchin
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Pressure Points is what you settle on when you don't get what you want, pretty much.

hearty fractal
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hydra time

cunning urchin
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Or when you want to avoid her core boons.

hearty fractal
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stubborn roots or deathless stand

cunning urchin
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What's the third option?

hearty fractal
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heroic phalanx shot

cunning urchin
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Oh wait nvm.

hearty fractal
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but I already have artemis cast

cunning urchin
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Reroll.

somber drum
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We've all had a Greater Poseidon call or something like that crit due to pressure points so we can't stop thinking that it's in the game even if it isn't.

hearty fractal
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cant

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I used it aleady dusa

cunning urchin
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Stubborn Roots then to get that Duo out of her pool.

hearty fractal
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acorn for elysium?

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I need like 5 more encounters to max it

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so I'll have it max for hades

somber drum
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With stubborn roots you might not need an acorn this run

hearty fractal
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I mean I do want to max it anyway

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I may take something else to hades though

cunning urchin
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Take the Coin Purse. You'll max the Acorn before Hades anyway if you take it in Styx.

opal vortex
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Is your Chiron (spelling?) keepsake maxed?

hearty fractal
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I actually went and got coin purse lol

hearty fractal
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nope

opal vortex
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It's pretty good going into Elysium IMO

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You get to buy stuff before Styx and then switch it

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So you kinda get it for two biomes

cunning urchin
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Coin Purse will go a long way. That's one of the best keepsakes in the game. Good for practically every build.

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+150 Obols at Lv.3. That's a free boon.

hearty fractal
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its not level 3 yet

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I just got iyt

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but Im levelling it which is good

cunning urchin
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Yeah, but 100 still goes a long way.

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And leveling it is good, yeah.

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For Hourglass, you'd want to check the Well of Charon first. But you'll benefit most from getting Deadly Reversal and Support Fire, and you can't buy that from Wells, anyway. So Coin Purse is better.

hearty fractal
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flying cutter or breaching cross

cunning urchin
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Breaching Cross always.

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What was the third option?

hearty fractal
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BRUH

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i just got heart rend and deadly reversal in the same offer

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;-;

cunning urchin
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lol

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Deadly Reversal.

hearty fractal
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why do you make me choose game ;-;

cunning urchin
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Well, it's not much of a choice. Heart Rend will only buff your cast damage, which is poor right now anyway. Deadly Reversal is way better here.

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Heart Rend can be a good choice once you already have Deadly Reversal.

hearty fractal
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sweet surrender, life affirmation or wave of despair

somber drum
cunning urchin
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Sweet Surrender.

hearty fractal
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fair enough

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that has happened

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I feel compelled to go back and take something I didnt take before

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oh no

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a trial of the gods

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with aphrodite or demeter

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what do I even choose here

cunning urchin
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Obviously, you take Lady Aphrodite first.

hearty fractal
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screw it, ima go aphrodite

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for nyan

cunning urchin
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Or I'll never help you again ever. zfiestAngry

hearty fractal
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UNHEALTHY FIXATION

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thanks

cunning urchin
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See? Lady Aphrodite is always the right choice. 💕

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Also, she just now called me an inspiration.

hearty fractal
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theseus time

cunning urchin
opal vortex
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What boons do I go for if I want to harvest darkness? Fish man?

somber drum
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Now Theseus is gonna use Demeter on you, just watch...

keen kettle
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absolutely fish man, also chaos I think

somber drum
cunning urchin
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Well, that's not possible since has boons from her lol. He picks one at random that you don't have yet.

somber drum
cunning urchin
hearty fractal
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I dont think i took damage that entire fight

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I have divine dash and like

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6 dashes

cunning urchin
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Eris build is Lightning Strike + Tidal Dash, anyway, so you'll have Poseidon in your pool.

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Yeah, Asterius basically can't hit you at all with Divine Strike on Malphon lol.

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I mean, there's the occasional odd hit, but it's very rare.

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You can literally stop his bull charge by just looking at him and punching him.

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And Theseus's spin you can just Deflect, too.

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Er.

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Wait, I definitely meant to write something else.

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Ah yes.

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His spear throw you can just deflect.

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Spin is undeflectable.

hearty elbow
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I was about to say, dang, I suck, because I try Divine Dashing through the spin all day and get smacked around all day. Good to know it is actually undeflectable lol

hearty fractal
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DIVINE PROTECTION

cunning urchin
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Nice nice.

cunning urchin
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And you'll also get to use Shatter Shot, so that's cool.

hearty elbow
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How many versions is a few? Because the spin was only introduced in 1.0

cunning urchin
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What? No, he had the spin long before 1.0.

hearty elbow
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Really? Huh. Thought he only spear chucked

cunning urchin
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That's because all you ever play is bow lol.

hearty elbow
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Fair.

cunning urchin
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He throws the spear if you're far and spins if you're close.

hearty elbow
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Yeah

jovial fulcrum
hardy condor
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Should i play ramma only with the special?

ashen heart
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rama good

silver summit
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@cunning urchin rama builds pls i can't find them

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rama special only is a horrible idea

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it only deals like what 5 or 15 damage

hardy condor
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well, i;m not that good at dooing power shots

silver summit
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the only good idea i know is Priv Status with like aphrodite on attack and something else that inflicts status on special

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you don't have to do power shots i guess just big shots are strong

jovial fulcrum
cunning urchin
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You'll want to Dash-Strike Power Shots. They charge a lot faster.

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Privileged Status is not a good pick for Rama.

hardy condor
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so, aphrodite and what other gods?

dusky drum
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aphy/arte attack are best on rama

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special can be used for a status

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like dio or dem

ashen heart
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looking at your username

hearty elbow
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Lol

silver summit
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church of huge catch

dusky drum
cunning urchin
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Deadly Strike and any out of Thunder Flourish, Drunken Flourish, Curse of Pain, ideally. Frost Flourish and Heartbreak Flourish are also very good.

silver summit
hearty elbow
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I just use the emoji now

hardy condor
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what would you suggest?

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distant memory?

cunning urchin
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Adamant Arrowhead in Tartarus.

hearty elbow
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Artemis > Athena > Acorn/Tooth > Acorn is going to be like... the vast majority of your builds

opal vortex
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I don't find Eris to be as good as people seem to think it is...

hardy condor
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TY

jovial fulcrum
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is your Eris fully upgraded

cunning urchin
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^ that always works, Owl Pendant in Asphodel to get Divine Dash.

silver summit
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several people are typing

opal vortex
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I prefer stygian or fists anyday

dusky drum
silver summit
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stygian?

opal vortex
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It is

hearty elbow
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You can try other stuff, Aphrodite > Zeus (for smoldering air) > Acorn > Acorn is a thing that could work.

silver summit
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stygian????

jovial fulcrum
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sword

opal vortex
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You know the damn word I am trying to spell

silver summit
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ohh stygius

jovial fulcrum
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Stygius

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yeah

silver summit
hardy condor
jovial fulcrum
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took me a second lol

hearty elbow
hardy condor
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never read the thing i think untill now

jovial fulcrum
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:)

ashen heart
silver summit
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it is indeed, friend

jovial fulcrum
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what have i started rowno

cunning urchin
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StygIus.

hearty fractal
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@cunning urchin we have a problem

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I dont take any damage

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but I dont deal any either

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this is gonna be a long fight

silver summit
cunning urchin
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That doesn't sound like much of a problem to me.

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You'd do a lot more if your aspect was maxed. dusa

opal vortex
cunning urchin
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Eris is broken.

hearty fractal
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I can literally spam dash stike on him and not take any damage lmao

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but I only do about 150

silver summit
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eris is stronk

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you may not be able to use it properly, but it is stronk

ashen heart
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There is no I in team

cunning urchin
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@hearty fractal make sure you use your Cast to keep Boiling Blood up.

opal vortex
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I use it properly

hearty fractal
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phase one down

silver summit
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hcek eah

hearty fractal
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dead

opal vortex
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I mean what else is there to do other than special ontop of yourself empty the clip and special while reloading. Throw in some dashing and that's it

hearty fractal
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finally

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that took 5 minutes

cunning urchin
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@opal vortex have you read Lili's Eris guide?

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@hearty fractal congratulations! Going for the next weapon? dusa

somber drum
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Can't bust the rust

hearty fractal
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absolutely

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aspect of eris next dusa

cunning urchin
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Put some Titan Blood into it and grab the Thunder Signet.

hearty fractal
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I have 4 titan blood

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level 3 aspect of eris here I come

cunning urchin
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If you're playing on pad, I recommend changing your Reload button to LB/L1.

hearty fractal
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nope

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kb and m

silver summit
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kbm is best

hardy condor
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First Hammer for ramma, what should i choose?

valid dagger
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You can turn off “Aim at Cursor” in settings, it helps a ton with Eris

hardy condor
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i was thinking Triple shot, but i'm not realy sure

cunning urchin
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Triple Shot, yes.

hearty fractal
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and auto aim off

cunning urchin
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Turn off aim at cursor and turn on auto aim. m very sure that's recommended for Eris on KBM.

valid dagger
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Id recommend the opposite, can give both a try and see which one suits you

hearty fractal
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thunder signet right?

cunning urchin
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Like pretty much all the KBM speedrunners use that for Eris.

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Yes.

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Lightning Strike.

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Mirror setup is in the guide I linked, too.

turbid needle
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Triple.

silver summit
turbid needle
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I may try that, actually.

silver summit
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idk with eris, mind you

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i just know it like, you give most of the input, and then it just auto-aims if you're close enough

turbid needle
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I can 100% believe Aim at Cursor is superior if you've got Rocket Bomb, but I'm sooo used to being able to pinpoint my Bombards.

hearty fractal
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epic lightning strike shreds

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geez

valid dagger
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Big chunks

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Get used to having that buff all the time, build it as a habit, it really pays off

cunning urchin
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#1 priority is Tidal Dash now.

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#2 priority is a +% Flourish.

lime jolt
valid dagger
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Rama

silver summit
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was that the person asking for rama?-

cunning urchin
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Rama. We already solved that. dusa

lime jolt
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Ok then triple

valid dagger
silver summit
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you're a bit late

cunning urchin
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How do we know you're not just saying that after seeing all of us say Triple to appear as though you know what you're doing. dusa

opal vortex
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if you have zeus on your attack does it screw up concentration knuckle?

turbid needle
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No.

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But Concentration Knuckle is like, Quake Cutter-tier.

cunning urchin
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No, it's way better than Quake Cutter.

hardy condor
hearty fractal
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alright, lets do this

hardy condor
cunning urchin
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Lightning Strike won't get any bonus damage from Concentrated Knuckle, but it's still an alright pick when there's nothing else good on offer.

hearty fractal
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epic lightning strike

cunning urchin
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You'll just get the +5 on each hit, but no more than that.

lime jolt
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Yeah triple is the best for rama

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Unless you’re doing special spamdusa

turbid needle
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Triple/Point-Blank is the strongest standard Daedelus set-up for Rama.

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If you feel like letting Amir beat you, you can attempt Anvils for Triple/Point-Blank/Perfect.

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Super dangerous especially with Forced Overtime to get the full set-up, but then you're basically getting +900% on a point-blank Power Shot.

cunning urchin
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I'll eternally prefer Twin Shot over Triple Shot, but Triple Shot is excellent.

turbid needle
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Yeah, Twin is always the safer option.

opal vortex
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Oh, I thought you got +5dmg then +10dmg then +15 etc etc etc

cunning urchin
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Well, yes.

turbid needle
cunning urchin
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I didn't want type out all that.

opal vortex
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So if you focus on a boss that'll get pretty damn strong

turbid needle
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It goes 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, and then resets.

opal vortex
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hm...

cunning urchin
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Not very strong. But it's nice to have.

hearty elbow
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It's... fine? It's mostly just because it's free though

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No downsides

turbid needle
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Not anti-synergy like Hazard Bomb and Eris or Heavy Knuckle and Demeter, at least.

cunning urchin
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Hazard Bomb on Eris is very strong, though.

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But you'll need to be good at i-framing your own Special.

turbid needle
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I've tried it lots of times, and yeah, 180 base damage on top of Eris and Artemis and whatnot is really powerful, but I think it's just a little too dangerous.

hearty elbow
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Imagine getting a DD in Styx shops :3

turbid needle
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Gotta be Donguri (probably the best DMC player in the world) to really make it shine.

hearty elbow
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Retrash did it at 50 last week lol

cunning urchin
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You could have just picked a top Hades player. dusa

surreal wasp
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I'm not sure I understand how rama works.
The q applies a mark that makes it so that any of the damaged enemies with the mark cause the others to be hit as well right?

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Is that all

hearty elbow
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No, that's not right

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Anything with a mark will take 60% of any attack damage anything gets

lime jolt
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^^^

turbid needle
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Does that apply to lightning, Hangover, or Doom? Or just specifically the attack? I've never been sure on that.

hearty elbow
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Attack damage only

lime jolt
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That’s why it’s crowd control is so good

hearty elbow
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"Crowd control" = Everything is dead

lime jolt
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Just tag everyone and stand in a corner; shoot one person and everyone dies

jovial fulcrum
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the drawspeed on rama keeps me away from it tbh. Even with dash strikes its felt like it was taking eternity

hearty elbow
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It's something to get used to for sure, but it's worth it

lime jolt
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“Slow charge up”shadedisgruntled

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If one more person says it

hearty elbow
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If I can land backstabbed triple powershots on Asterius with FO2, then you can do whatever you want

lime jolt
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It does take some time to get used to

jovial fulcrum
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flurry shot rama SmugLancer

cunning urchin
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@worldly pier you probably just missed it because it's obvious to you, but there's no mention in your Eris guide that you can input Reload + Special/Cast/Dash at the same time. That seems worth mentioning. A lot of players probably don't know about that.

Also while less significant for Eris, that standing still before Reload will lock you in place unless you cancel the animation with e.g. a dash, but if you're already moving when you press Reload, you can keep moving.

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Great guide, anyway. I've been linking it a lot. dusa

turbid needle
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Also worth noting that reloading during a Dash treats you as standing still, so you will be locked in place at the end of the Dash unless you've got enough Dashes to push through the entirety of the reload time.

cunning urchin
jovial fulcrum
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huh, i never noticed that reloading while idle forces you to stay idle.
I guess i'm just only ever idle when there's nothing trying to kill me

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keyboard?

cunning urchin
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Ah yes, the feared mptjomg lo;;omg ,e.

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I still remember my first encounter with the mptjomg lo;;omg ,e.

worldly pier
cunning urchin
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Yeah, I can tell what you mean from that, but newer players would have no idea you can input both at the same time etc.

worldly pier
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I'll try to make something more clear and a bit more extensive then

cunning urchin
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Sounds good! dusa

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The more you write, the less I need to explain.

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Until you write too much and no one wants to read it.

opal vortex
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I think I had hades charmed almost the entire fight, lol

cunning urchin
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lol fun.

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I love Charm.

hardy condor
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back with another rama question

opal vortex
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All it took was Smoldering air

hardy condor
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i have the triple shot

jovial fulcrum
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perfected shot

hardy condor
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i was thinking either cahin shot or perfect shot since i never took them

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ty

jovial fulcrum
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v good and also its a prophecy

worldly pier
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That was quite an issue when writing this. It's already quite lengthy, so I tried to keep things short, and there's a lot of things missing for sure

cunning urchin
turbid needle
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Both are very good.

cunning urchin
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Yeah.

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Bot hares are great.

opal lodge
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no wasted words there

cunning urchin
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Wow, fat-shaming.

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Smh.

jovial fulcrum
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is that like a bot fly? except a rabbit?
bot bunny?

turbid needle
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Unless I really don't understand how Hammers interact with Rama, Chain should cause all three of the Triples to bounce.

silver summit
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it probably would, but perfect is better for single target i think

toxic river
static karma
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Can Daedalus Hammers ever appear in Asphodel (excluding Erebus gates)? I've never seen one spawn in Asphodel

turbid needle
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Yeah.

cunning urchin
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Chain hurts Triple Shot, can't shotgun anymore.

toxic river
turbid needle
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Yes, if you don't take one in Tartarus.

static karma
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Ah I've always taken a hammer when I've seen one in Tartarus

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so I've only seen them in Tartarus and Elysium

turbid needle
cunning urchin
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Maybe that's been patched or something? I know @mighty ermine talked about it.

turbid needle
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It shouldn't prevent you from barrel-stuffing. thanthink

mighty ermine
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it makes shotgunning significantly harder, and it's hard to explain why exactly

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but chain makes it so the side shots want to skate right past the target if it's already being hit by the center shot

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you still can shotgun, but you won't successfully land them most of the time

cunning urchin
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If I were to guess, the center shot upon hit makes the enemy invincible to your Attack briefly in order to let the arrow pass through to the next target.

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And that lets the other two pass through as well.

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But if you hit all three at the same time, it would still work, but that's harder to do.

mighty ermine
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yeah, it even shows in the visual of triple chain, in that the center shot marker will stop directly in front of the target, and even if you're very close, the side shot markers will show their trajectory going right past on each side

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and usually it will be accurate to what happens; the side shots just do not hit anymore

jovial fulcrum
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dev plz fix

mighty ermine
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so triple chain forces you to be dead-on inside the target to shotgun, basically

cunning urchin
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I could be wrong, and Amir, I think, is taking a well-deserved break, so we can't ask him. But it seems to be something like that.

mighty ermine
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instead of anywhere close as with normal

opal vortex
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zeus aspect on the shield is interesting...

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hades on the special?

cunning urchin
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Thanks for dropping in with the answers. You may go back to only posting in the speedrun server in #high-heat anymore and ignore us. shadegrief

mighty ermine
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lol what i still post here

jovial fulcrum
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hades on the special would be a neat trick

cunning urchin
jovial fulcrum
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"make your shield invisible when thrown"

silver summit
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invisible damage +100%

cunning urchin
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Make your enemies invisible when thrown at.

silver summit
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imagine just straight up a damage god

cunning urchin
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And they get +100% damage.

silver summit
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no secondary effects like weaken

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just

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beefy damage

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would that be broken strong or broken weak?

cunning urchin
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That's basically what Lady Artemis does lol.

silver summit
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beefy damage but with gambling

jovial fulcrum
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yeah, itd just be artemis without the variance

silver summit
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20% chance to actually be beefy

cunning urchin
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It's way higher than that once you get Hunter's Mark.

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@hearty fractal run is going well, I take it?

hearty fractal
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@cunning urchin I got up to hades on my first time with eris

muted oracle
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I just got aspect of Arthur, any hammer advice for it?

hearty fractal
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and in like 12 minutes

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proud of myself

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Ill get the clear tomorrow

cunning urchin
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That sounds about right. Eris is broken lol.

cunning urchin
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Dash Nova can be very nice, too, if the others aren't that good.

muted oracle
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Thank you!

muted oracle
royal arch
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quick question, can someone tell me if +Special Damage also applies to the Maim damage of Aspect of Gilgamesh?

cunning urchin
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It doesn't.

royal arch
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ok thx!

gray edge
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does nourished soul improve the healing from guan yu spin attack?

cunning urchin
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No.

gray edge
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then crystal beam it is

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okay i think this run is blessed
went for the guan yu spear, got ares attack, prayed for aphrodites special
got it on her second boon, now i got their duo right before the tart boss fight

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also demeter boon which resets and then upgrades some random boon rarities
hit my ares attack, aphro special and crystal beam

dusky drum
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thats a strange gy setup to say the least

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never really see ares on attack with it, ares tbh isnt the most amazing on gy attack

gray edge
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it works well thanks to the first room deadlus that gave me upgraded range on attack

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so i tag enemies once with a long range attack and then just spam spears

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perfect synergy thanks to the duo boon

cunning urchin
dusky drum
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neat

lime jolt
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But curse of longing isn’t

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Ok nyaanyaa explained

gray edge
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ares attack on fists + that boon where you can stack doom by reapplying

dusky drum
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ig its just me then :/

gray edge
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thats fun

lime jolt
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Even curse of agony by itself is decent

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On guan yu

gray edge
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but the thing is
would i ever want to pass up a duo boon?
i went for aphro bc i wanted the massive dmg mod on my special

dusky drum
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like mirage shot on a non cast build

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thatss just useless

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(although i dont think you can even get mirage without having a cast so not that great of an example ;w;)

gray edge
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i got crystal beam ^^

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random pickup from demeter
i hope to run into the boon where crystal beem applies chill

turbid needle
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duo boons r always tempting bc you can sell them for big money

gray edge
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so i have a constant source of slowing

cunning urchin
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Curse of Longing is fine.

gray edge
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oh and which one is better from hermes?
quick recovery or greater evasion?

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(both on epic)

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okay i did pass up cold embrace

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because that one just seems awful if im playing on range anyways

lime jolt
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Oh I take CoL because green boon

cunning urchin
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Greater Evasion.

hardy condor
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what's best for a lucifer railgun?

heavy zinc
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is meg still the best summon ever since before 1.0 or were there any balancing changes that made other summons better?

opal vortex
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Is there a chart that breaks down which boons are "tier 1/2/3" or whatever and which boons are required to trigger availability of other boons?

heavy zinc
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you can check boon availability ingame

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on the codex

opal vortex
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I'll give it a try... just been using the wiki but it's kind of annoying

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Seems like most people memorize it though

turbid needle
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triple beam is pretty gud

heavy zinc
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just open the codex, go to olympian gods and press whatever button it says on the bottom right

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on keyboard it's B

gray edge
# cunning urchin Greater Evasion.

oh went for quick reflex

did help me preserve my hp a lot tho and ill try to run into hermes again so maybe i get another shot at evasion 😛

dense basin
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Like others said - in-game will show what's necessary and if you already got some boon required for legendary one for example it will be written in green

lime jolt
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For speedrunning and high heat, meg is the best

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Antos is also pretty good for high heat

cunning urchin
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Antos is great for high heat.

lime jolt
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Yeah

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Better single target damage

gray edge
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alright
that guan yu + curse of longing run was a success

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absolutely melted hades

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okay athenas call was a massive help

nocturne raven
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If you’re only using companions for bosses and don’t mind tanking a hit or two in exchange for high damage you can’t go wrong with Mort. Works a treat against Theseus and Asterius.

hearty elbow
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Normal Heroes for sure. EM3 especially with FO2 may zoom away before Than gets the hit though. Kind of random.

lime jolt
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Mort is great for like normal runs

turbid needle
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Just tried Aim Assist with no Aim at Cursor.

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You guys didn't tell me I couldn't hold down a WASD key while attacking.

opal lodge
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lol

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well you can

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there has to be an enemy nearby though

turbid needle
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Wringer to my left, holding down D to make distance, Zag pokes to the right.

sweet hornet
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mmm should I try the anvil with explosive fire and triple bomb?

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eris, posei on attack, demeter on special

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if I lose explosive fire chances are I'll get something better, but I'm not sure I want to chance losing triple bomb

cunning urchin
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Anvil if you think you can't clear without it, otherwise don't.

hearty elbow
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Or you don't want your memes to be dreams

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Explosive Triple bomb isn't exactly meme territory though

sweet hornet
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it's only 5 heat, and this build is already OP

cunning urchin
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Or if you think you can clear either way, go ahead if you think it's fun.

sweet hornet
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explosive triple bomb?

hearty elbow
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Explosive Fire + Triple Bomb

sweet hornet
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any reason you put them together like that even though the two hammers don't really have anything to do with each other?

hearty elbow
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There is no other explosive hammer, and triple bomb makes it clear I'm referring to Rail

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It was just shorthand :3

cunning urchin
sweet hornet
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for the memes it is

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lost triple bomb lol, gained flurry fire and targeting system

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it's an upgrade

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especially with sea storm

turbid needle
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stacking chill and weak with privileged status using Talos fist got me to the end

fringe summit
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Hmmm

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If you are going Eris Rail with full Zeus

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And you get the choice of a Zeus/Pos duo room, or Chaos Gate

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What do you do?

tacit glade
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Hey, I’m relatively inexperienced to the game, I only got it around 3 days ago, but I’ve gotten to hades like 4 times already and haven’t beaten him. I use Varatha but I’ve only gotten my ideal build twice. Any tips? I’m also down to use the shield if that’s any better. I just want to beat hades without having to use god mode or something.

fringe summit
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Best tip for Hades: stay calm and dodge IN TO his sweep attack. When you see the circle around Hades, it will take about 0.5 seconds for the damage to actually come through. STOP attacking and dash INTO him because he will do the same

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I've been in the same place. I got to Hades a few times and thought: i'm never going to kill this dude. And suddenly when you understand the timing, things will get a lot easier

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And keep moving. The skulls he will shoot or the dash attack will miss you most of the times if you just keep dashing

tacit glade
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Or better yet, you finally kill hades, and the dude just stands right back up

fringe summit
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That means you almost already got him, so keep going!

tacit glade
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But should I stick with varatha? I feel like it’s able to put out damage but doesn’t do much for me in terms of defensive options, Vice versa the chaos shield.

fringe summit
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I got my first clear on the shield. It's just what you prefer. Shield is probably a bit more solid

tacit glade
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I’m also still pretty new so I’m still not used to the whole build stuff. I’d check YouTube but most videos are either low quality or 40 minutes long

fringe summit
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Yeah, i'm still in the same place. Almost about 100 runs in

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You'll get used to it

turbid needle
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isnt there a build guide pinned here

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its pinned in the new player channel

tacit glade
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Oh, thank you!

tacit glade
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Is rapid jab (I think that’s what it’s called?) optimal for varatha? It’s the Daedalus upgrade that deletes your spin attack and makes it to where you can hit several times in one shot

cunning urchin
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If you are going Eris Rail with full Zeus
And you get the choice of a Zeus/Pos duo room, or Chaos Gate
What do you do?
Assuming speedrun, I think @Lili [Imperdable]#4783 is the best person to answer that.

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Why don't you work, ping. zfiestAngry

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@worldly pier

worldly pier
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I'd take the Chaos, though the boons aren't particularly usefull for Eris. You mostly need Tidal Dash from Poseidon, which you should already have. A trial can be a big time loss.

cunning urchin
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Assuming you don't have Tidal Dash yet, you'd still take the gate?

fringe summit
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Yeah i already had Tidal Dash

worldly pier
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I would have resetd if Poseidon didn"t gave me the dash ^_^

fringe summit
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But my focus shouldn't be on getting Splitting Bolt asap?

cunning urchin
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Lol fair enough.

turbid needle
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I don´t know what are you talking about because I don´t have the game lol

worldly pier
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Spitting is just nice, not something you actively chase for

turbid needle
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But I´ll get it as soon as I can

fringe summit
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Alright, so: Lightning Attack > Tidal Dash > Breaking Wave > ???

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Arty special?

worldly pier
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Attack, dash and %special boon is your base stuff

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It's a bit too complicated to summarize the other boon choices

fringe summit
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Yeah i get it

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Thanks!

cunning urchin
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TFW chamber 29 mid-shop vs Patroclus.

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Reset it is.

fringe summit
worldly pier
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It's usually the top priority, pom it to lvl 3/4, then you can pom other stuff too

fringe summit
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And for Chaos? Special damage?

worldly pier
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If you have cluster and/or rocket, special is great yes. The other good one is the %boon chance

tacit glade
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Do I take Unshakeable Mettle? (Athena and Poseidon duo boon) or Holy Shield?

cunning urchin
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Unshakable Mettle.

lime jolt
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Also try and get jolted

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Idk if lili or nyaanyaa mentioned it, not getting it early is important

lime jolt
hearty fractal
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build for stygius, zagreus?

strange lark
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zag aspect?

hearty fractal
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yep

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I dont have enough titan blood for poseidon aspect

turbid needle
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merciful end

strange lark
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thats the only one that i know

hearty fractal
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so ares, then athena?

strange lark
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yes

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athena dash and special

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ares attack

hearty fractal
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👍

valid prism
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Athena special first because of the ME patch

hearty fractal
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athena start then?

strange lark
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yes

cunning urchin
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Curse of Agony first.

hearty fractal
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nya :D

valid prism
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Ares first then athena special then dash or ME if you're lucky (athena dash isn't one of the Athena conditions to trigger the duo anymore)

jovial fulcrum
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I wonder why only attack/special counts for Athena.
Was ME just too centralizing before, or something?

turbid needle
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it was crazy good and it still is

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I think it also tries to double as divine dash nerf

hearty fractal
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asphodel time

valid prism
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Astaos told me that the ME build was overused on any aspect when it was possible to have divine dash to trigger the duo

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Killing the build variety

hearty fractal
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dash, call or cast

valid prism
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ME -> ares atk or special + Athena atk or special

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So if you already have Ares atk, you want Athena special to have a chance to unlock ME on the next Ares/Athena boon you'll meet

hearty fractal
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ME is boring

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I already had a good ME run yesterday

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any other suggestions?

turbid needle
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zeus attack?

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artemis attack with heart rend stuff maybe

magic rivet
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Stack chill as much as possible with Artic Blast

spiral badge
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Cursed slash flurry slash zag sword is a barrel of laughs

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Pairs great with Zeus or Demeter or ares theoretically

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Or Dio too I guess

jovial fulcrum
spiral badge
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Arctic Blast is a Hoax

proven olive
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So ||blue shield benefit shield champion|| is equal... THERE IS NO ESCAPE. How do I deal with them? Lets say im using a slow weapon.

spiral badge
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That is not a sentence that makes a lot of sense sir

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And you needn’t spoiler here. Can you be more specific?

jovial fulcrum
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sounds like damage control greatshields?

magic rivet
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What weapon specifically

jovial fulcrum
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oh, or theseus

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probably theseus

spiral badge
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If that’s what he’s talking about the universal answer is bait and punish

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Especially for slow weapons

proven olive
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The guys in elysium with shields with benefit pack

spiral badge
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Yeah

proven olive
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so they get blue shield thing

spiral badge
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Bait their attacks, punish endlag

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Important note of the blue shield perk: enemies that have it can only give it to other enemies, not themselves

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So it can pay to focus down either the enemy making the shields, or the enemies receiving them

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Trying to fight that war on two fronts at once can be done, but if you’re stressed pick one or the other and focus it down

proven olive
spiral badge
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If I have to make a snap decision I’ll usually wait to kill greatshields until the room is mostly clear

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They are the tankiest enemies which makes them the hardest to consistently dogfight with in the middle of a frantic room

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So I sidestep that by trying to dodge and largely ignore them until the room is much cleaner, then start working them down one at a time

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Yes, like that. Benefits package 2 can get nasty quick, and it’s combos like that that give it its reputation

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That said I generally find BP2 to be totally worth it when it’s time to really start cranking on the heat gauge

proven olive
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then I choose to never add BP again LoL

spiral badge
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Bp1 is fine honestly

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It’s one of those things that you may as well get used to long term

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If you want to chase after endgame difficulty, that’s one of those statements that you’ll look back on in a month or two and smile at

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Like I said, I even find BP2 tolerable. It’ll throw you a real curveball and try to kill you sometimes but that’s the point of difficulty. Welcome to roguelikes, enjoy your stay etc etc

valid prism
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On that vod, dio dash is efficient and it's clearly a situation when you probably have to fight them inside the special glyph

proven osprey
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I'm convinced that some aspects/builds can't deal with certain BP2 rooms

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like impossible

spiral badge
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Yeah

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BP2 feels like adding on FTL levels of randomness

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Where just the right encounter at just the wrong time is unwinnable

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But those odds are fairly low overall

proven osprey
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Here on the video, you had drunken dash : you should have made a better use of it in order to strip the DC hearts. Combined with cast, you take them one by one.

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Trying to group enemies up is generally a good idea, but speeder saviors nope

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Not with Arthur I mean

proven olive
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this vid isa not mine

proven osprey
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oh ok

proven olive
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but already happened with me

proven osprey
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It was rather well played

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but too defensively

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If you have a DD or a SD, you must get as aggressive as possible in such rooms

spiral badge
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Arthur in particular is weak to bp

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For reasons you’ve just posted on YouTube

proven osprey
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Same for BP witches

proven olive
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Arthur in particular is weak to the game

proven osprey
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You just rush them

spiral badge
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Nah

proven olive
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SO HARD

proven osprey
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Arthur is good enough

spiral badge
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Arthur stronk

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Not top tier but not awful

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Clunky to operate but has meaningful movement tech that helps that and heaping damage output

jovial fulcrum
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BP2 witches are terrifying and one of the reasons I don't think I wanna mess with BP2

proven olive
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like sword is hard to use and arthur just feel strange

spiral badge
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That’s cause it is

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I always joke that high level Arthur play looks like someone playing QWOP

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Because the movement is so herky-jerky and unnatural looking

valid prism
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Well, OTP players probably have solutions to clear the worst possible BP2 situations but they're dedicated

spiral badge
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But it works

proven olive
spiral badge
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So the secret is real pros learn to dash around while still regular attacking with Arthur

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So you instant transmission kamehameha their ass

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And that’s how it’s largely played

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Again, very odd looking, very effective

proven olive
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Since the aura slow I just remove their speed, sometimes work

spiral badge
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Aura is very good too

proven olive
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like the mirro cast thaT REDUCE 200% PLUS CHILL BOONS

jovial fulcrum
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I'm trying to learn the timing for dashing as soon as the nova is done, but I keep going too fast and cancelling the aura

proven olive
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caps lock, sorry...

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20% *

jovial fulcrum
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200%/10

spiral badge
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Arthur tech is the weirdchamp of this game for sure

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But to reiterate, it’s there and it absolutely does work

proven osprey
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Tbh

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Outside of magma

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Don't use it

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Except if there's like a super good use

proven olive
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also is there a way to force some hammer upgrades?

jovial fulcrum
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the game tries very hard to make sure you end with 2 hammers

proven olive
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Im already 80 runs into the game and some hammers just have never appeared at all

spiral badge
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Not directly, not without mods

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Indirectly you can sway its hand, but not consistently and not by a ton

proven osprey
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Be aware that some aspects cannot get every hammer

proven olive
jovial fulcrum
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Daedalus keepsake when

proven osprey
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Flurry slash Arthur is unfortunately not a thing

proven olive
proven osprey
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lmao

spiral badge
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Lol

valid prism
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LUL

spiral badge
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Flurry slash cursed slash Arthur new high heat meta overnight

jovial fulcrum
spiral badge
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Yeah never touch anvil unless you have nothing to lose

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I’m from Las Vegas, take it from me, you do not have good odds in that game

valid prism
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Astaos lost points due to a bet, then an anvil happened.

proven olive
spiral badge
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That’s fine

proven osprey
jovial fulcrum
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there's spots where anvil is good for sure

spiral badge
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Anvil is great as a “in case of emergency break glass” button

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But only for that

jovial fulcrum
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there's spots where everything in the game is good, probably

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its hard to imagine Dem call ever being good

proven olive
proven osprey
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It's an okay call

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Chill is good

spiral badge
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Counterpoint: peer pressure

proven olive
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Demeter call is good

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I destroyed hades ez with it

jovial fulcrum
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its better than not having a call

proven olive
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phase 2 half hp

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just press call and puch a bit

spiral badge
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Mmmm I wouldn’t categorically call it better than not having one

proven olive
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Also what happens if u call hades agains hades?

spiral badge
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Not having one does open up dad keepsake which certain builds may enjoy a good deal more than dem call

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Dem call stinky imo

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Bad value proposition all around. Why would I want it over another call? Why would I want it over another Demeter boon?

turbid needle
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I like dem call more than like artemis, ares or aphro

spiral badge
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Agree on ares

proven olive
spiral badge
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I have a soft spot for aphro call as a good value proposition

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And Artemis can probably go on the bad list for inconsistency unless at full

proven olive
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aprho 2500 dmg and can stop archer masters during hades fight

spiral badge
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Yeah I adore aphro call as a sawn-off version of Meg that does the same damage at common as it does at epic

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That is what a great value proposition in a call looks like to me

jovial fulcrum
spiral badge
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Fair

proven olive
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nut is better

jovial fulcrum
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ehhhh, depends

spiral badge
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Depends

proven olive
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nut in hades

jovial fulcrum
proven olive
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gud trick

valid prism
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Ares call is good at high heat as a way to dodge damages

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But as an offensive call, not that terrible compared to other gods

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Poseidon call is good at both

proven olive
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Now I like athena, I just felt like shes bad till I got her first

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so athena dash and the reflect dmg plus 200%...

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I just defeated a super bomb green giant thing mini boss in styx dashing

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DASHING ONCE

valid prism
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Dash builds work but it's just difficult to make them work with Tight Deadline

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At least zeus dash build is a funny one

cunning urchin
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I wouldn't say Ares' Aid is good at high heat, but it's better than no Call.

valid prism
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Well it's a dont hit me Dad boon

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But definitely one of those sacrified boons for the sake of UC

jovial fulcrum
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What's the difference between the various bomb throwing Bloodless?
There's like 3 of them right?

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but idk the difference between them besides names

turbid needle
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the purple one goes melee, the green one goes ranged and the yellow one is like the green one but can drop 3 bombs before leaping iirc

boreal prism
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Green one bombs are fast and slightly homing

jovial fulcrum
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i c

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i guess, lol

turbid needle
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Is the Drunken build with the shield viable? ive been doing it and it's fun, but feels...weak?

valid prism
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Shield is not that terrible to make a good use of Dio because it's too much efforts to put the 5 poison stacks on enemies compared to other aspects

turbid needle
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I mean, I generally get 5 stacks on them super fast with dashing in, hit twice, dash out

valid prism
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If you do that, you can deal more damages by using other gods

turbid needle
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What u suggest I try out? New to Hades, but it's been pretty fun

valid prism
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Zagreus shield aspect?

turbid needle
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sry not 100% sure what that is

valid prism
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How many times did you beat the game? 😮

turbid needle
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Define beat the game.

XD None yet. I got to the point where I had to fight ||dad|| but failed

valid prism
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Ok I see

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In that case you can try Artemis or Aphrodite on atk if you want pure %damages

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Poseidon can work but it's an efficient god when you gather a lot of his boons

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Ares works the same way as Dio but you just need to hit once, and the damage delay is different

turbid needle
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Ares is the doom skill?

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or is that Artemis

valid prism
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Yep

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Artemis is the crit damages god and Ares is doom

turbid needle
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okay ill try Ares and artemis combo?

valid prism
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You can build you run with both or just one, depending of what you want/need

turbid needle
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only issuei have is RNG. I never seem to get the gods that I want lol

valid prism
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How many attempts did you do?

turbid needle
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in a run now, but ive gotta be at like.... 50?

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feels like 50 at least

honest wing
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when the god boons come just give them necta

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that will get you their keepsakes, which you can equip to force one of their boon

turbid needle
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yea I got a few of them

valid prism
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So use one of them to meet a god you want early in your run

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And by doing that, you're sure to meet them again along the way

jovial fulcrum
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Chaos shield would probably be the best hangover shield, I would think.

turbid needle
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is....is there more than 1 shield? cuz ive only ever used one lol

lime jolt
valid dagger
turbid needle
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whoa whoa whoa, fists?

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I guess its just cuz ive either over looked something or havnt unlocked it yet lol

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so i just need to git good and beat the game

jovial fulcrum
valid dagger
# turbid needle so i just need to git good and beat the game

Yes, it might be a bit hard to miss but incase you did miss it, after you grab a weapon you can approach the empty shadow figure of that weapon and should tell you that you can interact and reveal aspects, if not shown then you’ll need to progress more

valid prism
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Yeah because you're new I try to not say too much 😄

turbid needle
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im more of a gameplay guy than lore guy for games like this honestly

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so im fine with any spoilers

valid dagger
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Good then I don’t feel as bad bouldy

turbid needle
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Yea just checked, nothing is showing when I go back to the shield

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do i have to buy al the weapons before it shows? i havnt unlocked the spear yet cuz i tend to not use them

valid dagger
woven ivy
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yes

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pretty sure thats the unlock requirement

valid prism
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Let's say that you're currently stuck with 6 weapons at their basic gameplay

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But later more gameplays will appear

turbid needle
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Just bought the spear, and didnt get it; so maybe there's something else? do i need to give the vial things to someone in particular?

valid dagger
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You might need to die to refresh the thing

turbid needle
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kk

woven ivy
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imo you should try out every weapon at least once tbh

valid prism
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Unlock the 6 weapons and play the game, it should appear soon

valid dagger
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Yea

turbid needle
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how do i unlock 6? i only have 4 lol

valid dagger
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Oh well

spiral badge
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Late to the party but put for base shield put Aphrodite on attack and ares on special

valid prism
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Most complicated part at the beginning is to find a weapon you're comfortable with

valid dagger
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We spoiled too much stuff lol

spiral badge
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Then turn your brain off and enjoy the ride

woven ivy
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then it unlocks 1 more

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unlock that one

valid prism
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Just play, the weapons will appear

turbid needle
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ayyy, yea one just appeared

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got it; thx, ima grind up some keys

valid dagger
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Nice

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Hf bouldy

woven ivy
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just try everything out to see which one youre c=most comfortable with

turbid needle
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TFW u don't unlock a weapon cuz u dont like it but get held back cuz u need to at least unlock it XD

valid prism
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Well... most of the time when you see a locked item that is buyable with an easy ressource, I guess you're supposed to buy it 👀

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But it's fine, soon or later you will beat the game, whatever the weapon and whatever the tips we told you bouldy

turbid needle
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oh my god i love these fists

jovial fulcrum
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hunting blades or crystal clarity? About to start an Achilles run on EM4

strange lark
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both are great

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crystal build will be harder to get but if you can get all the correct boons then it will be better than blades

valid prism
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With the correct boons, Demeter cast is easier to use

jovial fulcrum
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Floor 1 Epic Demeter cast
Floor 2 artemis boon
Floor 6 Bouldy cast damage rainbow

strange lark
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there are 4 floors in the underworld how did you get to olympus

jovial fulcrum
half crater
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by the power of bouldy, obviously

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when bouldy believes in you, you can do anything

hearty fractal
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build for stygius?

strange lark
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which aspect

hearty fractal
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still zagreus

strange lark
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bruh

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ME

hearty fractal
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I maxed it to do the ||skelly prophecy||

strange lark
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bruh

hearty fractal
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what else is there

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ME cant be the only good build

silver summit
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cursed flurry is fun

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i'm not talking about a "good" build tho

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fun build

hearty fractal
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I'm still quite nooby

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so I guess I'll go with the ME build

silver summit
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the only thing i can tell you for cursed flurry slash is to beef up your hp because you can't outheal what oneshots you

hearty fractal
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if I were to do ME, what keepsakes for what floors?

strange lark
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athena

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ares

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doesnt matter which one first

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ares attack

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athena special

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athena dash

surreal wasp
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Since zagreus doesn't do much besides like give attack speed

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Probably an attack oriented build

woven ivy
surreal wasp
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Otherwise just whatever

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Heart rend is good

woven ivy
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ME go for doom attack athena special and athena dash

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heart rend go for pass dash and arty attack

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wait

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i forgot if you need special or not for heart rend

strange lark
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nah

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something that applies weak

hearty fractal
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I think I'll try heart rend

woven ivy
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ok then yea go for that

silver summit
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i don't think you need special

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just any of the main 5 boons

hearty fractal
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whose keepsake in tartarus?

silver summit
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what are you going for?

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ME or HR?

woven ivy
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if youre going heart rend arty first

hearty fractal
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HR

silver summit
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uhh probably arty

dusky drum
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And what weapon

silver summit
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for attack

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zagreus stygius

dusky drum
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Ahh yea arts attack

silver summit
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plumfox learn to scroll up smhy m yhead

dusky drum
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Arte

silver summit
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Arty

dusky drum
silver summit
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shsmshmsmh my head

strange lark
dusky drum
silver summit
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mhmhm h

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it's called cute nicknames :(

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I'm called Ataino but friend calls me Ataii

strange lark
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yeah

dusky drum
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And arte works

strange lark
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just like monke

silver summit
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hmm

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monke

woven ivy
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le epic monke

silver summit
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pet the monkey

dusky drum
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🐒

hearty fractal
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got epic pass dash in the 3rd chamber dusa

woven ivy
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noice

silver summit
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love it when that happens

dusky drum
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Tbh for zag sword aphro special is great

woven ivy
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also be on the lookout for empty inside

hearty fractal
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and a dedalus hammer in the 4th

woven ivy
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cursed slash if you get it is nice for max zag

silver summit
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yeah that's why i said cursed flurry

weak sequoia
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boons for rama build?

dusky drum
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Double edge is what you want tho

strange lark
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arty attack

silver summit
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it's fun but not the best

strange lark
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aphro special

vague ledge
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What are the best boons for Gilgamesh?

hearty fractal
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I got double edge

strange lark
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triple shot

hearty fractal
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lesgo

dusky drum
weak sequoia
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ohhky ty

dusky drum
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And a status special

vague ledge
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Rama is zeus special and that’s all you need

dusky drum
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Run gods pride

strange lark
woven ivy
dusky drum
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And I like ps if you run aphro and a status

woven ivy
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idk lmao

strange lark
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hold dash attack

silver summit
# weak sequoia boons for rama build?

"Deadly Strike and any out of Thunder Flourish, Drunken Flourish, Curse of Pain, ideally. Frost Flourish and Heartbreak Flourish are also very good."
"You'll want to Dash-Strike Power Shots. They charge a lot faster."

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from nyaanyaa

dusky drum
vague ledge
hearty fractal
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zeus or ares

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I have to pick a path

strange lark
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just pick one

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doesnt matter

dusky drum
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Zeus special is pretty cool

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On sword

silver summit
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how

dusky drum
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You essentially double your damage with it right off the bat

hearty fractal
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well, my choices are his cast, special or call

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

dusky drum
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Imo go special

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It’s nice

silver summit
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call isn't too bad

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smoldering air zeus

hearty fractal
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dio room next

silver summit
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dio i usually just got for misc boons

dusky drum
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^^

silver summit
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health and survivability + dmg from fountains

valid dagger
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Vintage strong drink

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Good ones

dusky drum
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I never use him normally outside of cast builds

silver summit
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yeah

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unless you're focusing on like trippy shot i never use it