h1-builds-and-combat

[proven osprey]

Weak Chill Ruptured Hangover Marked Jolted Exposed Doom are the curses

[tough pebble]

@half crater i tried that build but it's a bit hard when zeus only gives you 2 boons throughout the entire run lol, still absolutely destroyed as i got sea storm and Poseidon on my attack, also got jolted so always had 2 curses up

oh, and i also got pp up to a 7% chance

[half crater]

nice

yeah zeus is mean sometimes lol

[tough pebble]

yeah, did get support fire from artemis though, it helped out a bit too

[copper crest]

thanks mate!

[proven osprey]

my pleasure

[slim lynx]

i got gilgamesh and wow this aspect feels weird to use

is "heavy attack" a common thing with these hidden aspects?

[proven osprey]

Well

It's funny because I did not really notice before but yes actually lol

GY Rama Arthur Gilga are slow indeed

[lime leaf]

is Hades' Aid any good?

[slim lynx]

does draining cutter still proc if maim is actually what kills the enemy?

[copper crest]

for Rama: Repulse, Chain, or Point Blank?

[proven osprey]

Nope

[proven osprey]

Repulse is garbage, chain should be usable, Point blank is good

but a bit risky

[turbid needle]

GUYS I KID YOU NOT I GOT DOWN THE BONE HYRDA NOT COUTNING THE MINIONS IN ABOUT 8 SECONDS WITH MY CAST BUILD

[copper crest]

lol nice

k done Rama heat 6 run with mish-mash of a build

zeus attack, dio special, demeter cast, arty's call

[robust anchor]

nice

[turbid needle]

https://gyazo.com/2aa211dc2928cb6317a91f65bb597796

omg

perfect cast build for hades i got

if u wanna ask what any of the boons are ask me

[proven osprey]

Good damage buff, mainly used in speedruns tho

[slim lynx]

also a nice 'get out of jail free' card

at least from my experience, apparently you can still get hit

[river rampart]

You can

For some reason.

Anyways I use it when I don't go for anything specific

[lime leaf]

good to know

[slim lynx]

so i just finished a run with aspect of gilgamesh and yeah i like it

the slow attacks are hard to manage but deal a lot of damage and the main ability is really nice, the downside is pretty hard to notice since your dash is also basically a 'get out of jail free' because of how long it is

[copper crest]

I failed horribly in my last Gilgamesh run, ended up quitting lol

gave up

[slim lynx]

heavy and slow attacks are generally hard to control but if you get it right you can do some real damage with it

[dusk linden]

for 16 heat would i be best using chaos or Beowulf shield? and companion battie or shady?

[copper crest]

how many hours you have in game till you guys unlocked your first companion?

im at 55 have yet to unlock one

[crisp basin]

I got mine at 30 hours but that’s becuase I was ||pumping dusa and megaera full of as much nectar as they could drink|| to try and ||get the romance option||

[dusk linden]

i got battie first at around 40 hours

[proven osprey]

16 heat is not a big step, really. Play what you're more comfortable with

[dusk linden]

ok thanks man

[proven osprey]

Since the heat affectation is kinda free you won't feel a gap like for 32.

I would just say : No EM4, no FO, no AP and no RI

[crisp basin]

Is there a limit to how much heat you can get?

[proven osprey]

63 or 64 in hell mode

current record is held by Tailesque with 60 heat Rama (he is a legend)

[crisp basin]

So no-one’a beaten 64 heat yet?

[proven osprey]

nope

The thing is RI is a huuuge problem

Revives are what heal you at high heat

You have to be fast while not getting hit

It's super hard

Also, you'll need at least 2 dashes

[crisp basin]

Oh I can imagine. I can barely beat 3 heat SMH

[proven osprey]

haha

[crisp basin]

Don’t you start with that, from the mirror?

[proven osprey]

You'll get better, I was really awful in the beginning

[proven osprey]

The thing is that RI4 disables your mirror

RI stands for Routine Inspection

[crisp basin]

Ohhhh right. I forgot about that one!

[proven osprey]

It's the main problem yep

Mirrorless runs are already difficult, but combined with maxed things beside it's just hell on hell

[regal garden]

ri1 isnt too hard to beat the game on is it

since youre only losing the bottom 3

[proven osprey]

It's really bad because you'll lose your build control for only 2 heat

You will lose rolls, encounter less gods and get less rarity/duos

[opal lodge]

much less gods

[proven osprey]

It hurts a lot. Of course, alone it's ok

[opal lodge]

its very bad

[proven osprey]

that's actually huge for mirrorless

since boons can just make you win

[regal garden]

would doing ri1 on heat 3 be

like

easy enough cause i need to beat the game with all the punishments for that prophecy

[proven osprey]

You'll probably clear anyway

But if you're just chasing heat, don't bother

Have you figured out Theseus fight yet?

[regal garden]

ive cleared all the weapons with heat 2 now so probably gonna aim for like

higher heats with a few weapons

like get to 8

figured out theseus in what way

i havent done em3

[proven osprey]

nvm I thought you were the one having trouble with it

[regal garden]

also is benefits package like generally a good one to gain heat

[fair cairn]

got my EM4 clear on rail

[regal garden]

because you can get 5 heat solely from it

[fair cairn]

still having a lot of trouble with fists and sword

[regal garden]

and it doesn't seem to be able to do too mcuh

[proven osprey]

Well it's hard but not too bad without other pacts such as Forced overtime / Hard Labor

[fair cairn]

on its own BP1 and 2 are not hard

but once you get to JS, FO or HL combined with BP, it's very oof

[regal garden]

my first heat 3 run is gonna be em1 and bp1

[fair cairn]

eh, EM1 and TD1

[regal garden]

(what does js and fo mean)

[fair cairn]

Jury Summons, extra mobs spawns

[regal garden]

oh jury summons

[proven osprey]

EM2 is very doable

[regal garden]

yeah that sounds annoying

[fair cairn]

Forced Overtime, faster attack and movement

EM1 and 2 are free heat

take them first

then add TD1 which is also free heat

[regal garden]

well ill do em2 another run

ive already done a run with td1

[fair cairn]

EM2 is basically the same, just smaller arena

[regal garden]

ah

any health bonuses

[fair cairn]

nope

still a 1 min kill

[proven osprey]

The problem is lava, but you get used to it

Well lava is not a problem at low heat anyway

[fair cairn]

as long as you dont have Heightened Security EM2 is not an issue

[regal garden]

thats the trap one right

[crisp basin]

I used to genuinely lose runs to lava becuase of controller drift.

[proven osprey]

yeah, HS adds 400%

[regal garden]

i did a run with that and it was annoying

like in styx the axes

[fair cairn]

athena trap boon is clutch

[regal garden]

i lost the first run with it probably in part due to the extra damage

[proven osprey]

Yeah, guillotine time

[regal garden]

did 120 damage

[fair cairn]

it nullifies HS almost entirely

[regal garden]

got it

[proven osprey]

Oh, I've lost runs to lava too. Even without HS or controller drift, don't worry lol

[regal garden]

gonna do zagreus rail for first heat 3

[fair cairn]

epic one is 90% trap damage reduction

which means it literally reduces HS trap damage to lower than the original damage

[scenic oracle]

which blade aspect is the best?

[fair cairn]

all of them are good

take them for a spin

[proven osprey]

Arthur at low heat I'd say

[fair cairn]

zag is arguably the weakest but still quite strong

[proven osprey]

Not an easy weapon in general

[scenic oracle]

i dont even have any of the hidden ones unlocked

[proven osprey]

If you don't like sword, you can go for Poseidon aspect

[regal garden]

i just got arthur

form nyx just after last run

as in nyx gave me the revealing thing

i havent unlocked it

[crisp basin]

It’s easy to get them once you know how. Just ||put 5 titan bloods into any non-zagreus aspects on your weapons|| and then ||talk to Achilles until he gives you the code-phrase||

[scenic oracle]

👀

is poseidon attack good for the sword

[proven osprey]

It's a weak attack in general

low multiplier

[scenic oracle]

hmm are poseidon's boons good at all?

[crisp basin]

YES

[torpid vector]

Its annoying if you combo attack them and they get knocked away

[proven osprey]

Yes Poseidon is really good

[tame bison]

Putting knock back attacks on your melee weapon is largely a bad idea

[mild raft]

Super Soaker™️

Reject Zeus gun embrace Posideon gun

[crisp basin]

But....rupture and bouncing multiple times means you can deal thousands of damage in one hit

[mild raft]

Posideon cast is bonkers

It hits in such a wide area and deals good damage

[fair cairn]

poseidon shines once you get wallslam and rupture

insane damage

a bit weaker against bosses but you kill every non boss enemy so fast it's irrelevant

[mild raft]

Even against bosses if you get Wave Pounding and Posideon Attack you can outscale other gods' attack boons

Since Wave Pounding and Tempest Strike at common give you a total of 56% increased damage while even Aphro's attack boon gives you 50% increased damage at common

[fair cairn]

it's also very safe for melee weapons as you are pushing enemies away while dealing damage to them

[turbid needle]

would poseidon be good for magnetic cutter against close range enemies?

[proven osprey]

Except you need two boons and Aphro pom scaling is much better

But yeah, wave pounding, sea storms can make you deal damage for sure

[mild raft]

The slamming effect helps a lot with clearing basic rooms on its own probably more than aphro's raw damage, Wave Pounding helps supplement it with boss damage

although I guess the same could be said for Aphro attack giving strong single target damage and Dying Lament giving good basic rooms clearing

Maybe a good comparison would be Posideon attack + Wave pounding vs Zeus attack + Jolted

[proven osprey]

Well, Poseidon cannot compare sadly

[mild raft]

😔

[quiet maple]

what are some good builds with hidden spear?

[proven osprey]

Classic skewer build : Heartbreak strike, Deadly Flourish to get Heart Rend. The other way around is fine too even though a bit less powerful.
Any special % boon is good with charged skewer, Artemis being the best since the crit scaling is amazing.

Optimal dps rotation : Special > Dash strike > Dash strike. You can input a cast sometimes (mainly for infernal blood) but the lag can be risky and get you hit so be careful.

The cast would be after the double dash strike

Or after the first dash strike to wait for the special cooldown time

There a lot of possibilities, if you more in depth advice, tell me

Also the hammers you're looking for are : Charged skewer, Quick Spin, Massive Spin. Serrated point is powerful but riskier

[quiet maple]

this is a lot to start with, thank you!

[trail path]

any tips on fast runs? i average like 25minutes per run, doesnt have to be heat specific

[pale kayak]

Spread Fire Hestia or Piercing Fire Hestia?

[proven osprey]

You're welcome. Eternal rose it's a really good start since the weak effect will offset (a bit) your hp pool, forgot to mention that!

[proven osprey]

Piercing is one the best hammers on Hestia. Spread fire only gets one bullet to get buffed and you lose range advantage : garbage

[pale kayak]

Thanks for that

Tried Spread Fire before, hated it

[proven osprey]

It's kind of a meme

Decent on Zag rail

[proven osprey]

I would say to be comfortable with your aspect first, knowing your dps rotation that kind of stuff. this video has lot of tips https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3Mmoo4oTKU

[trail path]

thank you

[proven osprey]

Even if you don't aim for speedruns ofc, it covers a lot of things

[scenic oracle]

what boons are good for chiron bow?

[trail path]

the artemis boon that increases special damage and gives crit % is the best afaik

[proven osprey]

Heartbreak strike / Deadly flourish for Heart rend or Heartbreak strike / Drunken flourish for Low tolerance

HR is probably the best but dio build is fun to me

[scenic oracle]

what is heart rend

artemis and aphro duo?

[proven osprey]

yep

[regal garden]

wait is drunken flourish good

because the special focuses on one foe

so you stack the hangover instantly

[proven osprey]

yeah that's the spirit

for the room clear, you should focus many foes and let them die from it

[regal garden]

i was gonna do dionysus run next with chiron but that sounds cool

going for ice wine i think

my chiron is only level 2 but its the one with darkness thirst and its one level higher than the last chiron run

so might as well have some fun with it

[rain juniper]

is there any hidden mechanic to temple of styx

or is it just all pure rng

[chilly sapphire]

i think pure rng

[rain juniper]

so like the room with the satyr bag can spawn anywhere?

[chilly sapphire]

think so

[robust anchor]

the sack cannot be in first tunnel

but can be in 2345 so just pray really hard for 2sack

[rain juniper]

welp im praying for 345

WELP NOW IM PRAYING FOR 45

[robust anchor]

:(

[rain juniper]

phew

[dry ember]

Lul

[rain juniper]

wish me luck hades fight

got 2 dd's and 1 skelly defiance

[chilly sapphire]

ah yes, sd: skelly defiance

[rain juniper]

wish me luck

[chilly sapphire]

good luck

[calm saddle]

gl

[rain juniper]

do you guys do the hug dad strategy?

or just play it safe

[dry ember]

Always hug

Unless EM4

[jagged grove]

what

[rain juniper]

you just stand in him right

[jagged grove]

what's hug dad startagy

[chilly sapphire]

hug

[rain juniper]

you hug your dad obv

[stone harbor]

When I have chiron I try getting an attack off before I have to go into cover so I can just go to the closest cover, regardless of it is hugging dad or a pillar

[rain juniper]

hugs 4 dad

[dry ember]

During the laser attack

[rain juniper]

WOOO

[dry ember]

You can hug your dad to avoid the lasers

[rain juniper]

BEAT HADES 3RD TIME 1ST TRY OF HEAT 2

[edgy steeple]

What is his pulse do on EM4?

[chilly sapphire]

NICE

[edgy steeple]

knockback or/and damage?

[rain juniper]

i keep getting first try on the times i try the heats

lets hope it continues

[dry ember]

His pulse push you out so hugging dad isn't an option

[chilly sapphire]

just a lot of knockback

[proven osprey]

Knoback that stuns

Can even throw you in an urn

Which means instant death with HS for me

[edgy steeple]

wonder if it considered as stun?

I recall there are Poseidon + Athena Duo

[jagged grove]

how can you get static discharge? On the wiki it lists multiple prerequistes, so is it like only of of the listed boons or do I need all of them

[chilly sapphire]

check upgraded codex

[jagged grove]

alr

[narrow ravine]

codex = wiki?

[dry ember]

There is an in game codex

And then there is the website wiki

[narrow ravine]

gotcha

[rare kindle]

Too bad the in game codex doesn’t show incompatible stuff

[tame hedge]

How does piercing volley work if you use Aspect of Chiron?

Or does it just not, beyond the extra armor damage?

[sonic mural]

i think the volley can pass through enemies

[misty turret]

i fear no encounter, but that thing https://i.imgur.com/FR5aGLV.png, it scares me

[chilly sapphire]

pick aphro

[tame hedge]

Athena, Demeter, and Poseidon are all pretty easy to deal with.

[misty turret]

ive got 2 brain cells so i end up running into poseidon's stuff a lot

[open matrix]

Do aspects affect your boons from Hammer ?

[misty turret]

sometimes

[open matrix]

Like the chance of dropping some others or smh

[misty turret]

some of them change with aspects

but i dont think it changes the rate at which you get certain ones

[rare kindle]

Some hammers are incompatible with some aspects

the hidden ones all have unique hammers

[tribal rain]

what aspects are best for each weapon? I just unlocked aspects

I know I can't get the hidden ones until after I meet the final boss

[kindred rapids]

there isnt really a "best". while there are a few that are objectively worse (spear zag), most of the time it boils down to playstyle

oh and some aspects are amazing at lv1 while others need to be upgraded to max to see their true potential

[tough sparrow]

i just recently unlocked aspects for the shield and the adamant rail. i'm using aspect of zeus and aspect of hestia respectively.

[proven osprey]

I can relate lmao

[regal garden]

i need to upgrade my chiron

last run was good though

unintentionalyl got deadly flourish

so i just stuck with it while getting ice wine

and i got it in the end

[static ibex]

welp, beat it with 20 heat on bow, guess I need to change up the weapon

[regal garden]

one thing i liked about ice wine

its easier to hit foes with than normal trippy shot

only had it for the final boss but sitll

[proven osprey]

It's a good boon ye

[turbid needle]

has anyone got any enjoyable builds (no hidden aspects pls)

[static ibex]

Chiron bow + Aphrodite attack + Dionysus special pretty much wrecks anything

[misty turret]

tidal dash + poseidon boons that buff knock-away effects is pretty funny

clear rooms without pressing attack

[tame hedge]

What does the rails Eris aspect mean by "absorb your special"?

[regal garden]

tidal dash is always fun

[misty turret]

stand in the range of the explosion

[regal garden]

get hit by your special

[tame hedge]

Like, when an enemy gets hit by it? When you hit yourself?

[misty turret]

hit yourself with it

[tame hedge]

Gotcha. Thank you 💛

[kindred rapids]

and dont forget to combine it with Hazard Bomb

[regal garden]

cluster bomb with eris

really fun

[static ibex]

lol I did that once to complete my Fated list. It was an ... interesting choice

[kindred rapids]

its the only way to really feel the power

[misty turret]

same, ended up getting ice wine and just staying 300 meters away from the enemies at all times

[haughty pivot]

slicing shot or battle rage epic

i am conflicted

[misty turret]

i forget i have a cast too often

[regal garden]

battle rage

honestly

never been a fan of ares cast

[misty turret]

ill take boons for my cast and then forget it exists kek

[regal garden]

i find the swords better as a dash

[tame bison]

Pick and sell either

[misty turret]

demeter cast is my fave

[haughty pivot]

i like it

I'm using rail btw

[regal garden]

if you like it then take it

[haughty pivot]

but battle rage good too

i got rage

[turbid needle]

what hidden aspect should i get first

[tame bison]

Slicing shot basically reads “lose 50% damage output from Boiling Blood. Congratulations.”

[misty turret]

iirc you have to unlock guan yu (spear) first

[turbid needle]

i have done

i meant second

[misty turret]

ok then kinda up to you, whichever weapon you like most

gilgamesh/fists is nice

[turbid needle]

ill probably do excalibur for the defence

[misty turret]

although i end up dying at the end too much from it

maim increasing enemy damage be like

[turbid needle]

wait do i need to actually unlock the aspect or have guan yu to be able to unlock other aspects

[misty turret]

i think you need to have unlocked guan yu to unlock the others

[turbid needle]

heartbreak flourish(epic) or dionysus special(rare) for chiron?

[regal garden]

i think dionysus has more

synergy

[turbid needle]

okay ty

[regal garden]

but i dont think heartbreak would be bad at all

[misty turret]

its a shame flame wheel release or whatever its called isn't so common

[regal garden]

i got that once

not knowing what a flame wheel

was

as it was one of my first times going into elysium

but i wish i it again

[misty turret]

the amount of times i've gotten it when i had athena attack or dash

it hurts

[rare walrus]

flame wheel release is the only chiron well item i havent bought - i just never find it useful

[jagged grove]

what daedelus hammer upgrades are good for eris?

[regal garden]

cluster

i think

[sonic mural]

cluster, rocket, triple

[regal garden]

the one that fires off 5 ombs

[misty turret]

breaking wave is so funny for tower of styx

[regal garden]

knockback is so good in styx

i powered through it last shield run with tempest strike and wave

[vital bay]

trying my first boonless run

think Arthur sword probably best no? Also shattered shackle

[mellow cave]

How 2 unlock secret style of weapons? I unlocked only 2 for spear (guan yui) and sword (arthur)

[misty turret]

various npcs give you the unlock

[vital bay]

if you look on the wiki

for each weapon

you can see the requirements

[mellow cave]

Ok ty

[misty turret]

chaos gives shield, asterius gives fists, artemis gives bow, zeus gives gun*

iirc

[regal garden]

zeus gives rail

[misty turret]

oh right

brain

im good at remembering things

[turbid needle]

which one

https://gyazo.com/a86771eb034ba03b837056bf0ba85ed8

i have chiron

[vital bay]

aid

for sure

not even close

[turbid needle]

https://gyazo.com/ae93358d92c93a2dae2ae5b9fa6778a2

which one, i have hangover for my special and weak for my normal attack (weapon is chiron again obviously)

i also have artemis' aid and true shot

[mild raft]

Splitting Headache

[turbid needle]

ill take splitting headache actually

yea

its pretty op for chiron i just realised

[mild raft]

Pretty sure that's the combo you're working towards with Dio special Aphro attack

[proven osprey]

Huh

Heart rend for sure

Oh nvm

[mild raft]

I was gonna say

Taking a whole duo boon just for your call and cast doesn't seem like the right choice

[turbid needle]

https://gyazo.com/d686fee01faa04dfdb21b11f05128241

[proven osprey]

Sure but I did not even consider anything else than deadly flourish on Chiron lmao

[turbid needle]

LMAO

[mighty ermine]

splitting headache is the right call for that situation, yeah

[turbid needle]

I JUST GOT THIS

[mighty ermine]

welp

[mild raft]

Interesting

[proven osprey]

Both then

[mild raft]

Yea Heart Rend stronk

[turbid needle]

NOW THAT IS A GOOD BUILD

[proven osprey]

Well played

[mild raft]

That's called playing optimally

[turbid needle]

when i chose boss aphro boon

[proven osprey]

The thing is heart rend won't really matter lol

[turbid needle]

i didnt think i would get duo

although i was hoping for it

[mild raft]

I mean more call damage is pretty neat

[proven osprey]

Yeah

If you actually crit lmao

[mild raft]

35% with 10 arrows

I feel like you're probably gonna crit at least a few

[proven osprey]

Yeah sure

I just remember getting one crit only once

Or maybe 2 actually

[turbid needle]

my chiron just did like 250 for a single crit

i just almost one shot theseus with my call(hit him about 3 times)

[vague pier]

I imagine this has been posted somewhere, but can boons be accessed outside of randomly getting one from a random god? I favor the spear and the three prong attack no longer pops up when I find the daedalus hammer. Any pointers or website links would be appreciated. Thanks!

If every run means I have to use whatever is doled out to me from a random god, that's gonna get old (and has gotten so already, hence why I'm here inquiring...)...

[tawdry marsh]

What are some good boons for the Spear (Aspect of Achilles)

I was thinking Athena on the special to just dash around deflecting everything

[misty turret]

which chthonic companion should i max out first? im split between battie and mort

[kindred rapids]

imo || Shady || for those resources

[misty turret]

ah yeah i have that one too

[kindred rapids]

The damage is good but I like getting paid

[misty turret]

actually i have enough ambrosia, i should just max shady and battie and go from there

[kindred rapids]

Good plan

Unless you still need the Ambrosia for relationships

[misty turret]

only 3 keepsakes until i've maxed them all out and i can go back to only using broken spearpoint

[keen mesa]

https://imgur.com/jshQ3Gf.jpg

so good...

[kindred rapids]

Oh damn. Nice

[keen mesa]

the dash debuff cost me a death defiance on hydra

but oh well

[kindred rapids]

Worth it. Just get it back later

[gaunt forge]

can someone explain to me how the zeus and demeter duo boon works please

like do they take jolt damage every second for 10 seconds or

[misty turret]

jolted has a duration instead of disappearing after the enemy attacks i think

[kindred rapids]

Whenever they try to attack

[keen mesa]

jolt damage is done whenever THEY do an attack -- with the duo jolt stays on for 10 seconds, instead of being removed on their next attack

[gaunt forge]

ah got it

thanks!

[misty turret]

mfw flame wheels in erebus

[tall radish]

hey

[mint crystal]

What should I invest my titan blood into?

[tall radish]

can i add a change suggestion here ?

for a certin aspect

my issue is that aspect of hera feels very clunky with certain casts

like demeter and ares

[mint crystal]

managed to get my first escape today mostly using icy wine and demeter's snow burst

does crazy passive damage

[agile plover]

What's the max amount of gods that you'll go with for 1 run typically? About 3?

[misty turret]

3 + hermes for me usually i think although i dont typically keep track

[agile plover]

I see 🤔

[novel dome]

What's a good combo with Chiron + Dio Special ?

[robust anchor]

🤔 i love this emote

[misty turret]

aphro attack and aphro + dio duo

[novel dome]

Nice, gonna give it a try! Thx

[solemn magnet]

dio?

oh dionysus

not dio brando lol

[novel dome]

Yeah, the wine's god, not the metal one xD

[misty turret]

if athena would please give me her legendary ffs

[solemn magnet]

I was so excited for a split second because I thought there was a secret god named after the antagonist of part 1 and 3 of jojo's bizarre adventure

[short vapor]

Trial of the gods where its dionysus and ares walking towards each other like that

Zagreus is just in the middle all confused

[misty turret]

i got a hermes legendary before athena

ffs

now i still needed the hermes legendary but still

[solemn magnet]

@short vapor zagreus could be either one of the people in that scene

[short vapor]

So true

[agile plover]

Side hustle isn't bad at all

Everyone's thoughts on Ambrosia Delight vs Refreshing Nectar?

[regal garden]

diferent uses

refreshing nectar helped me massively on a run when in asphodel i had barely any boons

but if you have enough boons and want to up some rarity delights gonna help way more

[manic hull]

Depends on how my run's going by the time I reach Eurydice. If I’ve only got a few boons but they can really benefit from a rarity bump I’ll take the first option. Otherwise I go for next 3 boons 99% of the time. Then again, I usually chase specific legendaries/duos so YMMV if you’re just going with the flow.

[novel dome]

23 heat and managed to do my fastest time so far, 23:01! Good build indeed

[wispy fossil]

Finally got my first clear with bow

duel shot and explosive arrow is super great

[manic hull]

@wispy fossil Congrats!

[wispy fossil]

thanks!

[novel dome]

Congrats boyo

Bow was my first succesful run too

[sullen cargo]

If you are trying Aspect of Rama for the first time, what hammer upgrade would you pick of these three to start?
Sniper - Point blank - Chain shot.

Does Aspect of Rama and Chain shot work well? Like, maybe with Ares attack?

right now I have zeus on special and it's amazing

[manic hull]

Chain is good for mobs, not as good for bosses. I’d personally go with Point Blank in the hopes I get Triple in elysium. Wouldn’t recommend Sniper almost ever unless you’re using Orphy's keepsake for whatever reason.

[sullen cargo]

I'll try PB shot - thanks!

[opal lodge]

taking chain messes up your triple

i would take PB too

[misty turret]

finally ffs https://i.imgur.com/N5mSsvM.png

[regal garden]

i tried to get that last run

no luck

[wispy fossil]

Does upgrading the decor progress anything?

[misty turret]

dusa favor requires 12 lounge items including a rug + cleaning up the lounge

so there's that

[regal garden]

i mean you get alot of gems

from just

doing prophecies naturally

so i think you can lounge stuff

not too hard

[wispy fossil]

Ah perhaps I phrased that wrong I meant my first bow clear as it was the 5th in my total clears.

[mint crystal]

should I use triple bomb or cluster bomb upgrade?

[misty turret]

my first clear was like 40 minutes long with spear

kek

[wispy fossil]

Mine was also spear

Idk how long it was

[regal garden]

mine was like

[mint crystal]

my first clear was with fists today

[regal garden]

42 minutes shield?

[mint crystal]

32 mins I think

[regal garden]

i wanna say

i don't really take that long anymore but

[mint crystal]

I got really lucky with my boons

[regal garden]

it was a good run

i usually get sub 30 now ive got sub 30 on all weapons but sword

[mint crystal]

my cast did 380 with 30 tick damage every 0.5 seconds

that may be an exaggaration but it was OP

[wispy fossil]

My only clear with sword is 30 min 4 seconds

so close

How many clears do I need before I'm gonna start seeing real changes to the game?

I've seen quite a few major changes at 5 so far

[frail schooner]

easiest way to save time in runs is pause the game when you’re making a decision of which room to enter

or which boon to buy

[mint crystal]

timer pauses when choosing boons

[frail schooner]

i said buy

[misty turret]

after 9 (or 10 technically) is the ending so you can get pom blossom and sigil of the dead

[agile plover]

It's funny that halfway through my completion, with how my build was going, I trolled at the bone hydra and wasted 2 DD because I didn't think I had enough to complete the run

Odd how the fates work

[regal garden]

yeah you gotta

[misty turret]

i screwed around and died on hades EM4 with 400+ health and 3 DDs with arthur sword

[regal garden]

save your run then

[misty turret]

anything's possible kek

[regal garden]

ive had multiple runs ive clutched from thejaws of death

with a few boons or hearts

[agile plover]

I got lucky at Styx when I landed Stubborn Roots

[regal garden]

that have like turned the direction around you know

epic

i got that once idndt need it

at all

but im glad i got it

[agile plover]

But it is funny that on my serious attempts I got destroyed each time, and on the halfassed run, I go all the way XD

[regal garden]

yeah

on my all runs that have failed like after

my first run

its felt

bad

early on and ive made a series of bad mistakes

for example one run

in th emiddle of asphodel

i took chaos boon that reduced movement speed

with no egg

and the trap heat on

[manic hull]

Oh no

[regal garden]

i then made another blunder when i went intoa trial of the gods

that i knew could end bad

against all shields with no way of dealing with them easily

i lost multiple dds to that

trial

basically run fell apart

at least i don't have to pick that movement speed debuff anymore for my prophecies

cause i already picked it

[agile plover]

Elysium trials are definitely something that I have to make the conscious decision to join, knowing that my run could be screwed if it goes poorly

[regal garden]

yeah

i lost a run to an elysium infernal trove

once

wasn't gonna win it it was

the furhtest run id got into elysium at that time

luckily havent encountered anymore shield people trials in elysium

since then

[manic hull]

Oh god, I’m having flashbacks to a room full of flamewheels throwing inferno bombs at me. Sooo many explosions. Never again.

[regal garden]

or made awful chaos decisions like that

i hate the inferno bombs one

[misty turret]

i love inferno bombs lmao

[manic hull]

It’s not too bad usually, actually one of the ones I mind least, but man, it’s not a good combo with flamewheels.

[misty turret]

demeter trial with greatshields, i had that one once

never again

[regal garden]

oh yeah

it was

demeter with greatshields

that exact same combo

it was artemis or demeter

or i could do a solo artemis room

in hindsight

take the artemis room

[misty turret]

artemis isn't too bad

[sullen cargo]

I got Triple shot with my Point Blank shot with Artemis attack. :3

[misty turret]

aphrodite and demeter are by far the worst imo

[regal garden]

yeah

or um

poseidons can be annoying

with the waves

i find also dionysus takes a bit of getting used ot

you know the first trial i went into

i didnt know you could get both boons

so i picked one

then a hoard of witches appeared and killed me

this was in asphodel

[misty turret]

ok done with achilles questline

[regal garden]

i'm currently working through that

[misty turret]

im pretty close to being done with maxing keepsakes too

[regal garden]

got patroclus on like 4 hearts

and achilles on 4 or 5

[misty turret]

https://i.imgur.com/DmqIeBi.jpeg

[regal garden]

i need to probably do that

and not only use god boons and lucky tooth

i used the acorn for elysium last run

[misty turret]

broken spear is pretty nice

avoids the double hits

and shackle is actually pretty good too

[regal garden]

ive forged bonds only with people ive barely used their keepsakes

[mint crystal]

anybody have any tips for the elysium boss?

[misty turret]

be patient

[regal garden]

take down asterius first

and use the cover you have

[mint crystal]

I'll try that

[misty turret]

theseus turns his back to you after he throws his spear

[mint crystal]

usually target the bull

[regal garden]

to like avoid the spear

he has very good aim with it

[mint crystal]

I am using the rail at the moment

[misty turret]

and yeah kill asterius first because he's the bigger threat

[regal garden]

and he will hit you if you dont dodge it

[misty turret]

demeter is the worst to get with theseus i feel

[mint crystal]

yeah I usually just hide from that attack or try to deflecrt

[misty turret]

the stupid aoe whenever he throws the spear

[manic hull]

He’s not necessarily the bigger threat, you just don’t wanna deal with Theseus' second phase when Asterius still in play.

[regal garden]

i have heard that multiple times

yeah

sometimse i get them both downt o half at the same time

accidentally

i got theseus down to half first once before

probably aoe

[misty turret]

ill use hermes keepsake to hopefully get his other legendary

[daring turtle]

Zeus is annoying with Theseus - sooo many thunderbolts that you barely have time to attack him

[regal garden]

also is the

[misty turret]

because for some reason hermes keepsake counts as a requisite for his legendaries

[regal garden]

sispyhus companion a good first companion

[misty turret]

yeah its nice

[regal garden]

probably gonna be the first no matter what but just asking

cool

[mint crystal]

I seemingly always get zeus

[misty turret]

battie/mort are also nice

[regal garden]

yeah ive got meg

on just need to do favour

and im working through thanatos

hes on 5 hearts rn maybe?

idk

[misty turret]

im waiting for nyx questline to progress rn zz

[regal garden]

in what way

[misty turret]

already have both nyx and chaos at 6 hearts just waiting for nyx to have dialogue

[fair tree]

whats a good cast build? i've been trying out shield of chaos with demeter and artemis

[regal garden]

oh

right yeah

[fair tree]

i know its not as good as the bow

[regal garden]

i have nyx at 6 hearts too

[misty turret]

but other questlines got in the way

[regal garden]

i need to get chaos more hearts

theyre only at like 3 ? or 5

4

but i need to get more chaos stuff anyway

[misty turret]

but now that i'm done with sisyphus, orpheus, and achilles i should have no more to get in the way

for gun, aspect of hestia or aspect of lucifer

i have eris maxed

[regal garden]

to max?

or like to use

[misty turret]

to use

im probably going to have enough spare titan blood to max everything here im just picking an order

[manic hull]

@fair tree Poseidon with Crush Shot, Achilles with the Ares/Arty duo, and Hera or ||Beowulf|| with Trippy Shot all come to mind.

[fair tree]

achilles? which one is that

[manic hull]

For the spear.

[fair tree]

and i dont have any hidden aspect available besides Guan Yu

i'm basically looking for a max damage 1-shot style build

[manic hull]

Oh definitely Hera w/ Trippy Shot then. You can hit for 3k+ if you do it right.

Without crits.

[fair tree]

i assume that requires good luck?

also how would i build that

also is trippy flare any good

[manic hull]

Yeah Trippy Flare is what it’s called when you use it with Hera. It’s arguably better than Trippy Shot because it detonates instantly instead of flying in an arc.

[fair tree]

hm

ohhh

ok

im dumbv

how many of those have new names?

and how should I build that

[manic hull]

I think it’s only TS that gets replaced on Hera, but it’s been a while since I used it so I might be remembering wrong.

[fair tree]

oop got a hammer first

you should be able to put screenshots in here

[regal garden]

what about blade

[fair tree]

Point Blank, Flurry Shot, or Armor Piercing Shots

[opal lodge]

no the flares are for beowulf

the casts are the same for hera

hera only changes the delivery mechanism

[fair tree]

hm

[manic hull]

Trippy Shot still gets changed tho right?

In name only, that is.

[fair tree]

ooh rare tippy flare

is that good

[manic hull]

Pretty good yeah. Once you get a couple poms into it rarity doesn’t matter all that much.

[fair tree]

already up to around 600 per shot i think?

[manic hull]

Anyway you’re gonna want the legendary from Artemis and Dio/Demeter duo.

[fair tree]

how do i get arti legendary?

[opal lodge]

you need two out of the three

[manic hull]

Two of these three: Support Fire, Exit Wounds, Pressure Points.

[opal lodge]

^

no, iirc hera is still called trippy shot

the flares are specific beowulf stuff

[real kernel]

I swear Artemis has the most difficult-to-acquire Legendary Boon

And it isn't even that impressive

[fair tree]

well i just got free demeter

[manic hull]

No way, Hermes is the hardest IMO.

[fair tree]

@opal lodge its trippy flare ik cuz i have it

[opal lodge]

oh hm

[manic hull]

Thought so

[real kernel]

Depends on whether you have a Lambent Plume

[opal lodge]

it should be identical damage to the shot

oh you know what

i think it changes for some hera casts and not others

[keen mesa]

Without Lambent Plume, Hermes definitely has the rarest legendary boon

[fair tree]

what do i want from Demeter

[keen mesa]

because you need to get another rather rare one from him first

[opal lodge]

any core boon if youre trying to get ice wine

[fair tree]

frozen touch, frost strike, demeter's ade

*aid

[opal lodge]

frost strike is fine

[manic hull]

Go for strike or aid

[opal lodge]

so is aid

[fair tree]

aight

so now i just need arti?

[opal lodge]

you take boons on hera to open up duos

[real kernel]

Do Boons have weighted odds of appearing?

[opal lodge]

or zeus if you want to get all the duos

@fair tree

[real kernel]

Or are Boons equally likely to appear if you meet their prerequisites?

[opal lodge]

depends which boons youre talking about

hermes legendaries are the hardest to get on a natural roll with no modifiers

1% base chance

even with the prereqs met

[real kernel]

Holy crap my luck is weird then

[keen mesa]

and you can only get 3 hermes boons total in a run

[real kernel]

On paper, Divine Protection shouldn't be that hard to get. In practice, it seems spectacularly rare.

[opal lodge]

are you running legacy?

[real kernel]

Yes

[opal lodge]

taking yarns and nectar and all that?

[forest marsh]

I think Chaos legendary usually takes the longest for people to get the first time

[real kernel]

Nectar shouldn't have an effect, should it?

[opal lodge]

filling out your core boons?

[real kernel]

Do yarns affect Legendary spawn rates?

[opal lodge]

the refreshing nectar from eurydice

yes nectars do

[real kernel]

Ah

[opal lodge]

and so do yarns

as does filling out your core boons

if you fill out your core boons and meet the prerequisites you have something like a 50% chance without god's legacy

[keen mesa]

that's because in order to get chaos legendary you need two pre-requisites

[real kernel]

So Boons that fill empty slots are more likely to show up?

[keen mesa]

you need to have a chaos boon already, and you need to be running death defiance

[real kernel]

I swear that isn't true

Ah, that's what you meant

[opal lodge]

you can get it with stubborn

[keen mesa]

...understandably, I don't know too many players, if any, who don't use death defiance

What does it do?

[opal lodge]

it gives you a death defiance

[real kernel]

Is there a reason that Athena's Legendary would feel less common than Legendaries from other deities? I am inclined to write it off as being in my head, but…

[opal lodge]

under your stubborn

[keen mesa]

Oh

[opal lodge]

theres not

you are picking up the prereq right?

its just brilliant riposte

[real kernel]

Brilliant Reposte, yes

[keen mesa]

but his one doesn't come back every room, right

[opal lodge]

no

but the stubborn does

[keen mesa]

right

[opal lodge]

its good for high heat

almost everyone uses stubborn defiances above 32/40 heat

[real kernel]

Divine Protection is basically a regenerating one-charge Evergreen Acorn that works everywhere.

[opal lodge]

its very hard not to

[real kernel]

So I almost always take Brilliant Reposte purely for the chance to get it

[opal lodge]

dont take boons from gods that'll open up duos

[real kernel]

I imagine this would be easier if I maxed Fated Persuasion.

[opal lodge]

since duos + legendaries are rolled from the same pool

[fair tree]

oop sorry

this bow is already insane

[opal lodge]

yeah hera with dio cast can be good

[fair tree]

what arti do i wanrt

[manic hull]

What choices do you have?

[fair tree]

dont know yet

i did get a chaos boon that gives another huge buff to my cast tho

i mean 1000 damage a shot isnt bad

[regal garden]

how good of an idea would

going hermes keepsake in styx be

like no other areas but getting it right before hades

[forest marsh]

Pretty bad idea

[manic hull]

Plume only works in the last room of each branch.

[real kernel]

The Lambent Plume doesn't count rooms without rewards as Encounters

[regal garden]

oh

right

[fair tree]

pressure points, hunter dash, artemis aid

[manic hull]

Same with Butterfly.

[regal garden]

would you still get points towards levels though

[real kernel]

It technically says it does, but it is wrong

[fair tree]

which should i take

[real kernel]

Depends on your other skills

[manic hull]

@fair tree PP is a prereq, also just good in general. I’d take that.

[real kernel]

Artemis has a very good Aid, and Pressure Points is always good

Hunter Dash is much more situational

[fair tree]

hermes or a centaur heart

[real kernel]

Hermes

[regal garden]

centaur heart

[manic hull]

I’d say Hermes for the chance to get Greater Recall. Super good with Hera.

[real kernel]

That's way better than my reasoning, which is "Hermes good"

[regal garden]

my reasoning is

get health

[manic hull]

I mean that too. Extra dashes or hyper sprint are always welcome.

[fair tree]

is a dio/dem trial worth it

[regal garden]

probably

[misty turret]

take dem and yes

[real kernel]

Trials are two Boons for one room, so if you can take it they're almost always worth it

[misty turret]

i always take trials unless its like

aphro/demeter

[fair tree]

it might kill me

[regal garden]

i changed it

[real kernel]

The bot scanned it first, apparently

[proven osprey]

Proxied

[regal garden]

well i think demeters stuff will be harder to deal with so

[manic hull]

One thing to note is you can’t get Ice Wine from it. Trials can’t give you the duo for the two gods in the trial.

[fair tree]

shop then

[regal garden]

if you do it maybe don't pick dionyuss first

[misty turret]

man whenever i use the gun it feels like it has no damage

hage

[real kernel]

Trials don't give you Duo Boons, but they do thin out the pool of things that aren't Duo Boons

[regal garden]

point is

personally i would say

just for the chance for two rarer boons

[real kernel]

You want to be applying Status Curses with it. Also, use the Special

[regal garden]

go for trials unless it goes against your build intensely or will make you lose dds or kill you

[misty turret]

im using eris im practically spamming the special lmao

[real kernel]

The basic attack pattern for Exagryph, at least with Aspect of Zagreus, is "Attack + Reload + Special"

The basic attack pattern for Aspect of Eris is "Special + Dash + Attack + Reload"

The other two are a little weirder.

I can never get auto-aim to behave while trying to detonate Packets Hellfire from Load() the Aspect of Lucifer.

[fallen lagoon]

oof

[hushed snow]

im about to complete the prophecy that requires clearing with all of the conditions of the pact at least once (gives 15 blood)

which hidden aspect do you all think is best to invest it into?

[real kernel]

Don't jinx it

[rare kindle]

The increased trap damage one is hard

[misty turret]

well that question kinda relies on knowing which aspects you already have maxed

[hushed snow]

put most of my blood into the sword, maxed the zagreus aspect for skelly and have arthur at level 4

also put some blood into the spear since it was my favorite weapon

[manic hull]

@hushed snow Beo or Rama would be my top picks.

[hushed snow]

but i haven't dealt much with the other weapons

[real kernel]

So far, I've been super-cautious about investing Titan Blood. I'm floating 50, since I don't want to blow it on maxing something I end up not using.

[hushed snow]

i've heard rama is good

but also drastically changes how you use the bow?

[tame bison]

Rama is busted

[hushed snow]

also is guan yu just garbage

even at max

[chilly sapphire]

achilles spear

[tame bison]

Guan Yu great

[chilly sapphire]

eris rail

[real kernel]

People really like Crackling Skewer

[tame bison]

I think Rama/guan Yu/Arthur are the most fun hidden ones.

Hera bow also fun imo

[manic hull]

Guan Yu has a good special and decent spin attack but it’s not worth the downside IMO.

[tame bison]

Kinda up to you

[fair tree]

i already have all of the gods i want what gift should i use

going to alysium

*elysium

[real kernel]

Having used all the aspects and found niches for pretty much all of them, I've started just investing one level in the Aspect I'm using before a run

[manic hull]

Patty

[hushed snow]

how does the shared suffering thing work on rama?

[fair tree]

patty?

[real kernel]

Patrocles?

[tame bison]

You put the Rama special on as many things as you can

[manic hull]

Yeah, I call him Patty for short

[tame bison]

Then power shot one thing

And blow up the room

[fair tree]

im not sure i have that

[hushed snow]

interesting

[real kernel]

It's super good. Basically a status curse (not really, though) that applies damage equal to a portion of the damage inflicted by your attack

[hushed snow]

so kinda like zeus special but even stronger

[tame bison]

At max rank it deals 60% shared dmg

[hushed snow]

ooh does that shared damage work with artemis crit on attack

[real kernel]

Each hit from Celestial Sharanga's attack causes damage to everything afflicted with Shared Suffering.

[fair tree]

@manic hull what gift should i use in elysium? i have every deity i want

[hushed snow]

wait that's amazing

[real kernel]

Potentially including what was just hit with the Attack

[hushed snow]

so you're saying you don't have to actually land a attack on an enemy but if they're marked with the curse, they'll take damage anyway?

[tame bison]

Yeah it procs on the thing you shot

[real kernel]

Also, the special is independently really good

[tame bison]

Correct, Echen

[real kernel]

You have to land an attack on an enemy

[hushed snow]

that's crazy good

[real kernel]

Not the enemy

[hushed snow]

yeah i thought as much

otherwise it'd just be broken lol

[fallen lagoon]

how many hidden aspects do i need before i can get the aspect of lucifer?

[real kernel]

Sort of like Storm Lightning: it doesn't bounce unless it hits something and deals damage

[manic hull]

@fair tree Oooohh, you were referring to keepsakes. Sorry, I thought you meant who to give a gift to. I’d still say the spearpoint, or the acorn if you prefer that.

[real kernel]

One: Guan Yu. And you don't need to unlock it, just reveal it

[fair tree]

i dont believe i have the spearpoint

whos it from

[real kernel]

Patrocles

[manic hull]

Oh. You get that from Patroclus. That’s why I suggested him.

[fallen lagoon]

oki, i have that bc i needed it for arthur

[fair tree]

the corporate shill in elysium?

[hushed snow]

hmm, do reveal rama, do i have to invest 5 blood into the bow first?

[real kernel]

@fallen lagoon The rule for everything besides Guan Yu is that you can't reveal it until you spend 5 Titan Blood on the Infernal Arm in question

[fallen lagoon]

ahhhhh gotcha

[hushed snow]

and then maybe die early and hope to get artemis's words

[real kernel]

So just unlock all the Aspects and upgrade Aspect of Zagreus to Lvl. 2. That's enough

[real kernel]

Don't waste your time on suicide runs, there's plenty of things to do

[fallen lagoon]

imma go try that and then do a run so that i can see who i need to talk to for the aspect unlock

[real kernel]

Just to be clear: Hidden Aspects are not "best aspects"

[manic hull]

@fair tree Uhhh, I guess? He’s the guy in the exclamation mark room.

[real kernel]

Supergiant Games doesn't really do "best". Unlocks are different, not better or worse

[fallen lagoon]

ik, just wanna get them for the sake of getting them

[misty turret]

see: guan yu yeah its all pretty balanced

[real kernel]

Talk to everyone, and you'll get there eventually

[fallen lagoon]

thx 😄

[fair tree]

hermes or daedelus hammer

[hushed snow]

dang the guan yu hate is real

[real kernel]

Daedalus Hammer

Always

[hushed snow]

i might have to max it out to see if its usable

[fallen lagoon]

depends truffle

[real kernel]

Forever

[fair tree]

hammer

got it

[misty turret]

i dont like guan yu because i'm bad at video games

its actually good

[real kernel]

No. Hammer.

[manic hull]

Hammers aren’t super important with Hera. I'd say Hermes

[fallen lagoon]

i mean hammers are always good but it depends on how many hammers he got before

and what weapon

imo

[fair tree]

hera bow and 1 hammer

[fallen lagoon]

hammer then lmao

[tame bison]

Guan yu is just fun. It’s not the best blah blah, but winning with it is very satisfying.

[fair tree]

also is there damage scaling on multiple cast charges?

1 charge does about half the damage of 3 charges

[real kernel]

Lightning Strike

[fair tree]

twin shot, chain shot, or triple shot

[manic hull]

TRIPLE IS SO GOOD

[fair tree]

those all kinda suck for my build

is it good with my build

[real kernel]

Frost Strike?

[fallen lagoon]

f i forgot i stopped a run literally as im abt to fight|| hades||

[manic hull]

Wait nvm I forgot this is Hera. Absolutely don’t take Triple, it’s weird and unpredictable.

[real kernel]

Maybe save-scum for when you inevitably are slightly rusty with the build

That's not that uncommon. Just look at Hazard Bomb

[fair tree]

i assume chain then?

[tame bison]

Aspect of Zag rail? Gross.....

[real kernel]

I'd go with Chain personally

[fallen lagoon]

lmao it was literally in the middle of the cutscene (i play on switch so i can just close things when i totally should lol)

[real kernel]

It's actually really good

[tame bison]

That’s fair

[manic hull]

I'd go with Twin for a little extra boss damage but Chain is never bad.

[tame bison]

I mean, it’s not good bc the button exists?

[manic hull]

@turbid needle No, we’re referring to the bow. Separate conversation.

[real kernel]

Aspect of Hestia would be a lot easier to understand if they actually spelled out the range increase on the first strike

It's basically a sniper rifle with additional suppressing fire

[fair tree]

whats a pom slice do

[real kernel]

Random upgrade on a Boon

[tame bison]

Try and find out

[real kernel]

Like a Pom of Power, but you don't get to choose

[fair tree]

YOO I GOT ICE WINE

[real kernel]

The best sniper rifle in the game, of course, is Aegis with Charged Shot and Minotaur Rush

[fallen lagoon]

omg my build was so bad on this run 😄

[manic hull]

LETS GOOOO

[fair tree]

upgraded demeter or coins

its a boss

[real kernel]

Obols are basically the default option. That is, you take it because you don't like the other options. I'd say go with the Boon.

[manic hull]

How much money you got?

[fair tree]

244

[misty turret]

eris works its just slow zz

[fair tree]

i just spent 200 on demeter and pom slice

[real kernel]

Heartbreak Flourish?

[fair tree]

the pom slice upgraded my trippy shot (lets go)

[tame bison]

Wouldn’t ever take 100gold over an upgraded boon unless you want to pass on the miniboss to get a shot at a different upgrade from another God

[fair tree]

i would rather arti but i think its too late for a legendary

[manic hull]

Probably coins. Not too much worth picking up from Demeter unless you want to go for Rare Crop.

[fair tree]

i wanna try and save gold for the ending though

[real kernel]

I always save my Obols for the Artifact anyway.

[misty turret]

time to waste some darkness on nyx/chaos questline

[fallen lagoon]

isnt that like 3K darkness lol?

[misty turret]

yeah

[manic hull]

3142 or some weird number like that.

[fallen lagoon]

i havent finished my mirror yet

[rare kindle]

it's pi

[manic hull]

@fallen lagoon Still working on Fated Authority/Persuasion?

[fallen lagoon]

no, i havent gotten the last 30 keys to unlock the rest of the skills lmao

i keep using those keys to buy nectar instead lol

[manic hull]

Oh whoops. Yeah, you’re gonna need a lot for the final tier if you wanna max out both skills. Thankfully the better of the two (IMO) is cheaper.

[fallen lagoon]

i might do some gem and key grinding tho to get those skills unlocked 😄

[misty turret]

its funny to listen to chaos when i use aspect of chaos

[fallen lagoon]

[fair tree]

how do you get a 4th death defiance