echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Like having aphrodite or someone on attack is probably much better

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 3:37 AM

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If you use two or more casts you mostly oneshot anything with trippy shot

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 3:37 AM

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hades's spin does 40 normally right? i'm not tripping?

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 3:37 AM

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I think it does 60, really not sure though

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There might be a difference if you level it or if you hit enemies with the tip of the spear

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Idk I used it like 3 times

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 3:38 AM

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i mean

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final boss spin

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not the weapon haha

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 3:39 AM

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What if you shotgun people with dio special

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 3:39 AM

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For dio special you can just go chiron

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 3:40 AM

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And yea 40 seems about right

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Completely sure though

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 3:40 AM

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alright, cause i just got hit for 80 sus went back and checked and i got no HL on

gloomy zenith Dec 23, 2020, 3:40 AM

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good boons for hestia?

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 3:40 AM

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My goal is to get black out without havong to think about applying hangover ever

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 3:40 AM

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Did you get hit by his cast?

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It's boiling blood

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 3:40 AM

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ahhhhhhhhhhh

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 3:41 AM

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gloomy zenith good boons for hestia?

Anything with good damage, artemis, aphro and so on

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 3:41 AM

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alright, i was being a dumbass

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lost my acorn ticks to the summons like a loser mmmmm

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 3:42 AM

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You should be reloadong between every shot most of the time so I would not take zeus like with other rajl aspect

gloomy zenith Dec 23, 2020, 3:42 AM

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yeah

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base damage

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i've already been doing artemis and aphro, i was just wondering if anything else was good

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 3:44 AM

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You might be able to make poseidon with sea storm work if you really want to

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If you manage to also get poseidon dash your attack will be outclassed though

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It seems like more of a meme build than anything good

balmy vigil Dec 23, 2020, 3:46 AM

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Rare crop needs to either be buffed to actually do what the description sounds like it does or it's description needs changed to more clearly say what it actually does.

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 3:47 AM

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Some summons are very annoying

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Hate it when he calls long bows or the blue crystals

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 3:47 AM

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Maybe a buff to the common one, but if you hit your main damage source it is really strong

gloomy zenith Dec 23, 2020, 3:47 AM

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rare crop picks 2 randoms boons, decreases the rarity to common, then buffs the rarity every few encounters

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right?

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 3:47 AM

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Yea

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 3:48 AM

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Yes

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Common crop picks 1 and epic crop picks 3

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Rare crop name change when

gloomy zenith Dec 23, 2020, 3:48 AM

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i didn't know the rarity affected the maount of boons picked

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*amount

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 3:48 AM

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It does

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I've only gotten common and epic

balmy vigil Dec 23, 2020, 3:49 AM

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It's description sounds like it reduces ALL of your boons to Common then buffs X boons rarity every three encounters.

gloomy zenith Dec 23, 2020, 3:49 AM

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yeah

balmy vigil Dec 23, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Which would actually be worth taking.

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What it actually does is just garbage.

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 3:50 AM

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If you get it early or keep your pool of pommable boons small it is strong. So it is a situational boon like most other stuff except something like athena dash or hermes bonus dashes

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 3:50 AM

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I mean it's far from garbage

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But also I'll agree that the description isn't clear

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The first time I took it I thought it'd keep proccing too

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I like the boon though

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 3:52 AM

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I mean it has a description and then says Boons Affected: 1

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That’s pretty unambiguous.

gloomy zenith Dec 23, 2020, 3:53 AM

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it could mean one random boons every few encounters

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and regardless, if this many people are confused by it, the wording should be changed

balmy vigil Dec 23, 2020, 3:53 AM

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I would rather it's fixed to actually do what it says instead of the description being made accurate to what it does now. As is it's only worth taking if you have exactly the number of boons it effects and they're all already Common.

gloomy zenith Dec 23, 2020, 3:54 AM

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i'll take it if i don't really want demeter

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or if my attack is blue or something

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 3:55 AM

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gloomy zenith i'll take it if i don't really want demeter

Yeah same, it is absolutely worth taking if your main damage has low rarity

cloud vault Dec 23, 2020, 3:55 AM

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If you get it early enough it's quite good unless you already have epics

balmy vigil Dec 23, 2020, 3:55 AM

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If it actually did what it said it would be an amazing early game pick.

cloud vault Dec 23, 2020, 3:55 AM

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Then prolly not worth it

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 3:55 AM

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balmy vigil If it actually did what it said it would be an amazing early game pick.

It would be incredibly op

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 3:55 AM

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You can take it with 3 tunnels left in Styx and it makes a random boon Heroic

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Which is fun

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 3:56 AM

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whats wrong with rare crop?

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 3:56 AM

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No clue. I think it’s fine

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 3:56 AM

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doesnt everyone know its a gamble unless you get it early?

gloomy zenith Dec 23, 2020, 3:56 AM

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wording is a bit misleading

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 3:56 AM

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quick q would you take common greatest reflex or epic swift flourish on chiron

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 3:56 AM

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is it?

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 3:56 AM

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turbid needle quick q would you take common greatest reflex or epic swift flourish on chiron

epic sf no contest

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 3:56 AM

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gotcha

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 3:57 AM

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epic sf means 3-4 volleys per target instead of 2-3

balmy vigil Dec 23, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Honestly I'd even give it a Heroic tier for 4 and make it start at 7 encounters and reduce the encounters per upgrade by one per pom power until it reaches 1.

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 3:58 AM

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It might be worth consideration if you have dio special and deal most of your damage with hangover, but prohably not

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 4:01 AM

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Having situational boons in the game is fine. For example, any of the Athena ones associated with giving you a Death Defiance charge or if you’ve ever taken Ares cast and hoped to get Artemis Ares duo. Or all your situational mirror skills

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 4:01 AM

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nvm lernie slam killed me

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 4:03 AM

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Lolk

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 4:03 AM

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i was gonna say this is the run but

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it was not

honest wing Dec 23, 2020, 4:10 AM

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quick question

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so i finally got meg's companion summon

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what happens when I fight her

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can I fight her

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 4:11 AM

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You cannot use it during the Fury fight.

scarlet ingot Dec 23, 2020, 4:11 AM

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You cant use the summon. Thats all I think

honest wing Dec 23, 2020, 4:11 AM

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ah

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that sucks

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but unerstandable

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thank you

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also lucifer aspect is so good

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 4:12 AM

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It is.

left oak Dec 23, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Usually Zag'll just say "can't do that" or something like that, but occasionally Meg chimes in with "ha, not happening"

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Can't use it against dad either @honest wing

honest wing Dec 23, 2020, 4:15 AM

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oh

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then what is the purpose

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 4:15 AM

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There's two other bosses

honest wing Dec 23, 2020, 4:15 AM

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yea

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 4:15 AM

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And minibosses

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Also like jeez, rare crop is fine as is

honest wing Dec 23, 2020, 4:16 AM

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can't use it against the lava either which is most of the damage I take lmao

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 4:16 AM

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What lava

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Oh lol

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Nvm

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 4:16 AM

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you can use it against dad. but ||he needs to give you permission ||first

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i'm not sure what triggers that dialogue, though. it just happened eventually for me

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same goes for the other companions, not just meg

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 4:17 AM

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Yea it's been a while since I got meg but no permission still

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So I've kinda just given up hope

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I just use her to clear satyrs nice and quick

honest wing Dec 23, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Tiny Vermin is a beast

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 4:20 AM

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If I could choose whom to fight I think I'd choose vermin everytime

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He's the easiest one for me

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No annoying poison darts or lasers

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 4:21 AM

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U crazy

honest wing Dec 23, 2020, 4:22 AM

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poison darts are annoyin

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Cmon the rat doesn't do anything

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He's just running around

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 4:22 AM

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i've only fought him like twice

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but he wasn't really a problem

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the double minibosses are more annoying imo

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 4:24 AM

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Yeee, three shielded snake crystals is big rip

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Especially on that map with a huge hole in the middle

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They spawn on three corners

honest wing Dec 23, 2020, 4:24 AM

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what are you talking about holy

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now I'm scared for high heat stuff lol

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I've only played with EM1 yet

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

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I play low heat

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Em doesn't affect minibosses or mobs

honest wing Dec 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

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my highest is 4 heat rn

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

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My highest is 7

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But that's only one weapon

honest wing Dec 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

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I'm just upping the heat to farm titans blood

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

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Everything else is 3 and 4

honest wing Dec 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

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and now I'll also need ambrosia for the first time

pine flax Dec 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

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can i use art + posideon duo with ares + posideon duo ?

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Yes.

fair cairn Dec 23, 2020, 4:26 AM

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pushing up to 8 heat and kinda nervous now

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Art poseidon sounds like itd be insane with hunting blades

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Too bad I don't have this Heroic Auto Reload on a Cast build.

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Asking for heroic auto reload seems like a bit much no?

pine flax Dec 23, 2020, 4:41 AM

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what do i want with excalibur?

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arty? aphro?

fair cairn Dec 23, 2020, 4:45 AM

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artemis is good

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I personally like ares on it

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since it's a slow weapon

sonic mural Dec 23, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Arty attack for juicy 5k hits

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heart rend, shadow slash, etc

granite lava Dec 23, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Hey everyone, I have made flowcharts for each god and duos. Before I use them in my mod and put them up on the wiki I need help to do a final proof read. Here is the full album : https://imgur.com/a/UkOZNf6
If you spot any error please ping me, thank you.

Imgur

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@echo radish so yeah it's here

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Probably put a space between the https and colon before it so it becomes a hyperlink

granite lava Dec 23, 2020, 4:52 AM

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echo radish Probably put a space between the https and colon before it so it becomes a hyper...

It showed as an hyperlink but I've edited my message anyway

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Noice and thanks, bookmark

granite lava Dec 23, 2020, 4:53 AM

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echo radish Noice and thanks, bookmark

Keep in mind there might still be errors

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I'm not a computer and it was very repetitive work, a few people have reported some errors before

nocturne pivot Dec 23, 2020, 4:59 AM

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so i own the game on switch but like im considering getting it also on computer to see if mouse and keyboard is fun but i realized i can just ask peeps here

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:00 AM

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I like kbm

cunning urchin Dec 23, 2020, 5:00 AM

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granite lava Hey everyone, I have made flowcharts for each god and duos. Before I use them in...

Very sure Curse of Drowning is incompatible with Beowulf.

granite lava Dec 23, 2020, 5:04 AM

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cunning urchin Very sure Curse of Drowning is incompatible with Beowulf.

https://imgur.com/DPAkgG3

Imgur

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:04 AM

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fatThunk

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:05 AM

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No longer sword liker, rip

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:05 AM

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its implied

granite lava Dec 23, 2020, 5:05 AM

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@cunning urchin I can test to be sure but it does not show up as incompatible, neither is the beo cast

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:05 AM

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now I got two swords in my name instead of one

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:05 AM

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They form a cross which implies no

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Smh

cunning urchin Dec 23, 2020, 5:06 AM

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@heady radish did you ever get Curse of Drowning on Beowulf? thanthink

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 5:06 AM

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What build is nice on Rail beside Zeus/Dio?

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Which rail

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:06 AM

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eternal chamber poseidon attack lucy

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Ah yes the hose

cunning urchin Dec 23, 2020, 5:07 AM

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@granite lava also, relying only on colors for distinguishing different arrows and stuff will make it difficult or impossible for some people with color blindness. You could try using a color-blind-friendly palette and maybe making one arrow color striped, another one dotted, etc.

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Basic gun version not lucifer

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Zagreus aspect?

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Let’s go with eris

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:09 AM

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cluster rockets

granite lava Dec 23, 2020, 5:09 AM

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@cunning urchin I just tested and curse of drowning does show up with beo

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as for color blindness the base game doesn't have a colorblind mode so I don't know why I should bother

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Wait how do cluster rockets work with eris, aren't you supposed to shoot yourself?

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:10 AM

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shotgun an enemy point blank

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ifs hard not to hit yourself lmqo

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Oh rip

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:11 AM

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it still has a sizeable AOE effect on impact

cunning urchin Dec 23, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Because it's more accessible.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

nocturne pivot Dec 23, 2020, 5:11 AM

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^

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:11 AM

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^

granite lava Dec 23, 2020, 5:13 AM

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If you really insist I can just use white instead of god colors but it really feels superfluous to me

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Just put stripes on your already existing arrows

granite lava Dec 23, 2020, 5:14 AM

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echo radish Just put stripes on your already existing arrows

oh yeah I was only thinking about duos

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I guess different shades of grey would work?

heady radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:15 AM

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cunning urchin <@!380736019726729216> did you ever get Curse of Drowning on Beowulf? <:thanthin...

you can get CoD. i have not tested it

pine flax Dec 23, 2020, 5:15 AM

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how many hammers can u get a run? is there a guaranteed amount of hammer?

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:15 AM

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2

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:15 AM

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2 hammers, 3 with anvil

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Always 2

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:15 AM

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1 in tartarus 1 in elysium

pine flax Dec 23, 2020, 5:15 AM

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will the game rig it that i get 2 if i just keep skipping hammers?

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:15 AM

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1 before elysium and second one appears after elysium

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:15 AM

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unless if you actively avoid them

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yes it will

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they will plague u

nocturne pivot Dec 23, 2020, 5:16 AM

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same with hermes right?

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:16 AM

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ye

nocturne pivot Dec 23, 2020, 5:16 AM

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that's neat

pine flax Dec 23, 2020, 5:16 AM

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oh r u also guaranteed 2 hermes as well

nocturne pivot Dec 23, 2020, 5:16 AM

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according to that chart in the pins, yes

cunning urchin Dec 23, 2020, 5:17 AM

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@granite lava could just use one of these color palettes. Makes it easy, I think. https://thenode.biologists.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Fig_1-Palettes-for-blog_v2.png

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Make the squares blank instead of grey if you don't require it for duos

pine flax Dec 23, 2020, 5:17 AM

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is there a whole page i can read on like

cunning urchin Dec 23, 2020, 5:17 AM

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They're colorblind-friendly.

pine flax Dec 23, 2020, 5:18 AM

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what the game tries to give you and when you can see a shop or sth

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:18 AM

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saving that for future reference

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Do you guys change your Sword build for Piercing Wave at all? Take advantage of the range somehow

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:23 AM

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nope

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I still mash dash strike lol

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it kinda helps with flame wheels tho

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:24 AM

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I don't like wave, it feels so lame

untold vortex Dec 23, 2020, 5:24 AM

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oooh, that's a really nice set of colour pallettes Nyaan klinkO

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:24 AM

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it's one of the better sord hammers

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Really? Idk never liked it

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Like it doesn't do enough damage and it's too small to hit anything accidentally

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 5:26 AM

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piercing wave is good because it works with dash strikes

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its probably the number 2 or 3 sword hammer depending on how you feel about breaching slash

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:28 AM

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Oh wait what it takes Dash strike buffs?

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 5:28 AM

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?

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 5:28 AM

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It makes a wave when you dash strike

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 5:28 AM

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^

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:29 AM

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imo https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/328246239160434691/791175640345870377/my-image_20__01.png

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What's the first Hammer in A? Not Breaching Slash.

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piercing wave

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Who knows any of the pictures

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

frail schooner Dec 23, 2020, 5:32 AM

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yeah my phone is in black and white and those duo diagrams are hard to read

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:32 AM

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s+: double edge
arthur: shadow slash, greater consecration
a: piercing wave, breaching slash

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the others arent important

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 5:34 AM

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And why tier is Cursed Slash for sure lol

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:34 AM

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ye

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cursed slash, cruel thrust, dash nova

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Cursed Slash and Flurry Slash are weirdly okay.

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yeah but you gotta get both at the same time

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and you kinda get into this trap

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Cruel thrust made me cry

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:35 AM

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idk how to describe it but

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Also dash nova ruined a perfectly good run for me

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:35 AM

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there's this desperation w cursed slash

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unless if you're using arthur of course lol

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:36 AM

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I do like flurry though

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:36 AM

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cursed slash arthur slaps

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Surprised it's C

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:36 AM

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personally biased against it

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makes dash striking weird

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I'm curious why you rank Piercing Wave so high.

dry ember Dec 23, 2020, 5:36 AM

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turbid needle cursed slash arthur slaps

Cursed build

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Hate you, Fox.

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it's basically an extra 30 damage on every attack

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It doesn't scale, though.

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that's like having hoarding slash w 600 obols

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It doesn't proc Status Curses, doesn't scale with anything except universal damage-ups.

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it does pierce tho

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I think Hoarding Slash is a C-tier Hammer.

dry ember Dec 23, 2020, 5:37 AM

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turbid needle Hate you, Fox.

What did I do lol

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:37 AM

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and ur attacking a lot

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 5:37 AM

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What do you mean doesn’t scale? Like it doesn’t get the %dmg bonus off your strike or?

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:38 AM

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Nope.

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:38 AM

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Have you considered naming yourself dadhope

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 5:38 AM

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Weird it doesn’t?

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:38 AM

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It doesn't

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Hence I figured it was bad

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But apparently it isn't?

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 5:39 AM

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Huh yeah it doesn’t weird

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:39 AM

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dash strike is 30 base damage, so an extra 30 damage is basically a +100% additive boost to it

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which is p good

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it doesn't matter that it doesn't scale bc it's still a +100% boost

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bc additive

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 5:40 AM

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So it’s like 100% a dash strike build soon as you take Wave

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:40 AM

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it's already a dash strike build

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the moment u pick nonhidden sword

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double edge arthur is bonkers though

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 5:42 AM

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I need to work on my dash striking I think then haha

pseudo stream Dec 23, 2020, 5:42 AM

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okay... whoever suggested super soaker Lucifer, I like you

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 5:46 AM

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I guess Poseidon strike Luci?

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:46 AM

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I think the way the hammers are color coded is so cool

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I never noticed that til I pulled up a tiermaker for them

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:48 AM

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How are they color coded?

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Also have you considered opening a church of dash strike or something

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:50 AM

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https://tiermaker.com/create/hades--all-daedalus-hammers-82372

TierMaker

Create a Hades Daedalus Hammers Tier List

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sword is red, spear is green, shield is yellow, etc

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 5:51 AM

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O

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:51 AM

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each weapon has their own vibe

dry ember Dec 23, 2020, 5:53 AM

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well I don't even know half of those hammers xD

cinder wave Dec 23, 2020, 5:55 AM

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Is it just me or is Zeus special on Rama just absolutely busted?

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 5:59 AM

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It is

pine flax Dec 23, 2020, 6:03 AM

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does fam favorite work for each boon

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or only for # of gods you have

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 6:04 AM

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of gods

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Yeah I don’t think it’s actually possible to lose with Zeus Rama

pseudo stream Dec 23, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Poseidon strike luci + Zeus/Poseidon duo

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didn't get the Zeus legend though, tried so hard

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Man with Arthur...do I take epic 20% dodge or epic move speed...

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I guess speed

cunning urchin Dec 23, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Dodge.

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 6:11 AM

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20% dodge is essentially a flat 20% damage reduction

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on average

cunning urchin Dec 23, 2020, 6:12 AM

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DR and Dodge give you more eHP per point the more DR and Dodge you already have.

cinder wave Dec 23, 2020, 6:12 AM

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tame bison Yeah I don’t think it’s actually possible to lose with Zeus Rama

It’s kind of a bummer tbh. Feels like using a cheat code.

pine flax Dec 23, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Raise the heat

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Agree lol

sonic mural Dec 23, 2020, 6:14 AM

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whats special about zeus rama vs heartrend rama?

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Oh just realized I had Duo boon that makes everything epic

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No wonder I saw epic dodge and move speed

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Lol

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 6:16 AM

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epic

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Mmm refreshing nectar from Eurydice? Heroic boons incoming? Yeah I think so right? Lol

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Does that work?

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 6:18 AM

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don't think so

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 6:19 AM

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Bummer

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Yeah doesn’t look like it

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 6:19 AM

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It does make it more likely to get duos and legendaries

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I think I've always gotten atleast 1 duo out of nectar

tired tulip Dec 23, 2020, 6:26 AM

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Do I have to feed my chthonic companions ambrosia to be able to use them in the Hades fight?

forest marsh Dec 23, 2020, 6:27 AM

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You have to progress the story to get that

tired tulip Dec 23, 2020, 6:27 AM

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😠

sonic juniper Dec 23, 2020, 6:27 AM

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More to do with Hades than the companions themselves

forest marsh Dec 23, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Though Shady can be used any time

tired tulip Dec 23, 2020, 6:28 AM

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But I’m not good at this game

forest marsh Dec 23, 2020, 6:28 AM

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So if you want a Companion for Hades, use Shady until you get the rest unlocked

tired tulip Dec 23, 2020, 6:28 AM

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Only got Dusa and Meg’s so far

sonic juniper Dec 23, 2020, 6:29 AM

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If you want to use them at Hades before you lift that restriction, it has to he from people who don't work in the household. E.g.,

Skelly
Sisyphus

tired tulip Dec 23, 2020, 6:30 AM

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I was just surprised when it didn’t work and I died as a result

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 6:31 AM

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the surprise caught me too, but then i like it for story reasons 😆

tired tulip Dec 23, 2020, 6:32 AM

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I’ve only beaten him 3 times so I’m sure I’ll eventually learn what the story is

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Just got so close with Varatha for the first time and I’m starting to get really irritated with the game again

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 6:34 AM

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Wait you beat dad thrice and have a companion already?

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 6:34 AM

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everyone hates varatha apparently. im exaggerating but thats what it seems like

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 6:34 AM

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Actually 2 companions already

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also yea screw spear

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It's the hardest weapon for me

tired tulip Dec 23, 2020, 6:34 AM

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Yes I’m nearing 80 runs

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I get to Hades and then flub it

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45 minutes of just collecting nectar and everything

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 6:35 AM

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do you really have to do with spear?

tired tulip Dec 23, 2020, 6:36 AM

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If I want those fated list bounties I do

sonic juniper Dec 23, 2020, 6:38 AM

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I want to like Varatha, but I hate that exploding skewer is not default (I hate having to retrieve the spear), and its damage is so lacklustre .

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 6:38 AM

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before i had any aspects, i made spear work with chain skewer and vicious skewer

sonic juniper Dec 23, 2020, 6:38 AM

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No more special builds for me outside of GY

tired tulip Dec 23, 2020, 6:40 AM

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I’ve was mostly ignoring the attack and just using the special. List of Dionysus and Artemis boons so things don’t fly at me so fast

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 6:40 AM

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putting doom on chain skewer, make clearing any room go vrrrr

tired tulip Dec 23, 2020, 6:41 AM

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And Hades aspect for that time when things have just generated into the room

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 6:44 AM

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the big spin is fun. and iirc it hits from behind cover

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in the hades fight can sit behind pillar while you spin

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 7:02 AM

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Hmm super soaker luci still blows. Standing still is not a thing you do in this game

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Hmm super soaker luci sucks? There’s a pun here.

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 7:04 AM

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what about spamming dash strike? the beam dont cut off when you do it

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 7:04 AM

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Oh interesting

nova shale Dec 23, 2020, 7:05 AM

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So, is it just me, or is arthur sword the best weapon for aphrodite?

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 7:06 AM

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love is best weapon

nova shale Dec 23, 2020, 7:06 AM

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You combine the weak damage reduction with the consecration damage reduction, and you get the best raw damage scaling on your attack as well

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Love the 3rd hit doing like 500 damage

tawny meadow Dec 23, 2020, 7:10 AM

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guys why does freezing vortex exist... like it feels like a straight nerf to blade rift

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 7:10 AM

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How is it a nerf, it's great

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Activating ps from blade rift, sign me up

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Also making them slow along with the rift so they stay inside it longer

tawny meadow Dec 23, 2020, 7:11 AM

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30% decreased size and no damage increase or time increase the only bonus it gets is applying chill, which is fine but hardly duo worthy especially when hunting blades increases time and tracks enemies

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 7:12 AM

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it locks you out of hunting blades

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nuff said

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 7:12 AM

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I've never used it without black metal though so I might be wrong

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Wait you can't hunting and freezing votrex together?

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 7:13 AM

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no

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 7:13 AM

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That was going to be my next run rip

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 7:13 AM

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i would consider freezing if you could

tawny meadow Dec 23, 2020, 7:13 AM

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yeah if they could both stack that'd be cool but they lock each other out

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 7:13 AM

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It would be godlike if it could be used together

tawny meadow Dec 23, 2020, 7:14 AM

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like I'd rather take regular cast in 99% of situations over freezing vortex

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 7:15 AM

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Maybe they should make demeter tier 2 skills a requirement for the duo

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 7:15 AM

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freezing vortex + killing freeze sounds nut

tawny meadow Dec 23, 2020, 7:15 AM

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except enemies just leave it without engulfing vortex

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 7:16 AM

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Think rift would build up chill fast enough for like one or two blasts

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 7:16 AM

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@coarse moss lol knowing that let me win despite using 5 DD this run

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 7:16 AM

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tame bison <@464584399061778462> lol knowing that let me win despite using 5 DD this run

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tawny meadow Dec 23, 2020, 7:28 AM

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I just don't understand why freezing vortex is as weak as it is, like if it even just added cast damage that'd be cool but it doesn't even do that it gives you this slow (not stationary) small rift with no bonuses besides adding chill

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 7:47 AM

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stationary blade rift would be amazing

cunning urchin Dec 23, 2020, 7:48 AM

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@glass rapids hi! Unfortunately, your submission for Hades Is Comin' to Town only has Jury Summons 2 instead of 3, so I had to remove it. squirtooh Would you try again with JS3 and submit that? m sure you can do it! squirtnya

glass rapids Dec 23, 2020, 7:48 AM

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Oh damn, thought I had JS3

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never getting that build again shadegrief

untold vortex Dec 23, 2020, 7:49 AM

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I believes you can bittie3

cunning urchin Dec 23, 2020, 7:49 AM

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It was still a really good run!

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You might get an even better one this time. dusa

glass rapids Dec 23, 2020, 7:50 AM

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i survived one room with 1 HP left

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I had stubborn defiance on by mistake

cunning urchin Dec 23, 2020, 7:50 AM

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Wow lol.

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1 HP is all you need anyway. dusa

glass rapids Dec 23, 2020, 7:50 AM

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high confidence + stubborn defiance is scary

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in tartarus

cunning urchin Dec 23, 2020, 7:50 AM

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I play High Confidence Guan Yu lol.

glass rapids Dec 23, 2020, 7:51 AM

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i would be terrified throughout tartarus

tawny meadow Dec 23, 2020, 7:54 AM

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upgrading it goes a long way too like lvl 5 guan is a lot less scary than lvl 1 guan

cunning urchin Dec 23, 2020, 7:55 AM

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I still want to do a mirrorless Lv.1 Guan Yu run in Hell mode.

tawny meadow Dec 23, 2020, 7:56 AM

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you want to do wat?

cunning urchin Dec 23, 2020, 7:56 AM

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It's fun.

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 7:57 AM

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Have you tried hot pokers in the armpits before? You may also enjoy that. 🙂

cunning urchin Dec 23, 2020, 7:57 AM

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That would be painful, though.

tawny meadow Dec 23, 2020, 7:57 AM

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some people are into that

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 8:33 AM

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Why is my shadow presence and fiery presence doing the same damage

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Shouldn't fiery be higher?

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I tried hestia with fiery and high confidence and it dealt 262.
Same with shadow presence and high confidence dealt 262

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Am I missing something?

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 8:40 AM

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Fiery is only undamaged foes? So only procs first hit?

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 8:40 AM

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Yea tried it on undamaged skelly

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 8:44 AM

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No idea

balmy vigil Dec 23, 2020, 8:51 AM

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Is it even possible to unlevel weapons? (Barring CheatEngine or fresh saves)

fair cairn Dec 23, 2020, 9:05 AM

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nope

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 9:29 AM

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If I used the dio keepsake in tartarus and keep it, do I get another guaranteed dio boon in asphodel?

sullen valley Dec 23, 2020, 9:32 AM

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No, but you’ll keep the increased rarity chance bonus (for Dionysus)

lean basin Dec 23, 2020, 9:38 AM

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has anyone tried the Diogenes challenge? if so, any tips on completing it?

tough pebble Dec 23, 2020, 9:57 AM

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what is a good special boon apart from artemis to use on the chiron bow?

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 9:58 AM

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dio, ares if you get that boon that lets you stack his curse, demeter if you get artic blast

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try getting duo boons with ares and aphro if you go dio

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zeus might seem like a good idea, but the lightning bolt seems to have an internal cooldown so you only get like 2-3 per special at best

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so don't go zeus

untold vortex Dec 23, 2020, 10:05 AM

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yeah zeus special has a single target internal cooldown

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 10:08 AM

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anyone tried zeus on chiron special? i know the internal cooldown thing, but 2-3 procs dont sound too bad, especially with jolted and double strike. and pretty good room clearing if you just special without the homing. just theory ofc

cosmic torrent Dec 23, 2020, 10:08 AM

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Do chain lightning attacks provide any benifit against solo enemies? Like bosses and stuff

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 10:08 AM

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I'm bored give ne a minute

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 10:08 AM

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cosmic torrent Do chain lightning attacks provide any benifit against solo enemies? Like bosses...

no

cosmic torrent Dec 23, 2020, 10:08 AM

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And Zeus on special doesn’t sound bad, just there’s better options

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 10:10 AM

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I did poseidon on chiron once and no, you don't get 8 knockbacks in case anyone wated to know btw

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 10:10 AM

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8 knockback sounds epic in theory lol

cosmic torrent Dec 23, 2020, 10:11 AM

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Doom on Chiron special with dire misfortune maybe?

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Depends on how good that boon is in general, haven’t really used it much personally

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 10:12 AM

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yeah that works well

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especially if you get the extra delay for doom

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zeus special on chiron seems fairly decent in tartarus so far

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 10:16 AM

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wanna know how many bolts appear on 1 target

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 10:16 AM

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2-3 like I said, it's pretty hard to tell

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I'm pretty sure artemis and dio are both going to scale better though

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especially since the hammer for extra special shots is not going to add much damage

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 10:19 AM

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if we consider thunder flourish epic, 45 dmg per bolt. 3 hits = 135 extra damage. and can apply jolted too hmm

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 10:20 AM

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I'm 90% sure you get 3 by now btw

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 10:20 AM

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nice!

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 10:21 AM

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get jolted or roll for doublke strike?

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jolted does not get you the legendary

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 10:22 AM

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im...not sure. youre prob more experienced

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 10:22 AM

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I'm still in tartarus, jolted should be fine

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getting double strike is pretty risky

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way too greedy and it only really helps with bosses

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 10:23 AM

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yeah. is the non-homing special great for room clear as i thought?

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room-wide jolted sounds nice lol

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but i guess that can be achieved with zeus cast

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 10:25 AM

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so I just got done with tartarus and for now the build seems good but nothing absurd like beowulf trippy shot

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should I transition into lightning rod or keep going with pure zeus?

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 10:27 AM

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i'll leave it all to you xD

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 10:28 AM

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lightning rod it is

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nvm I don't drop the cast cristal things

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 10:29 AM

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ah too bad. i love leaving 3 rods down while i run around

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 10:36 AM

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just killed hydra, I have double strike but not the legendary, dio special with a duo deals more damage to hyrda but zeus is absolutely playable

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not sure if I am going to get much more damage though

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 10:37 AM

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maybe zeus have better room clear potential but worse single target?

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 10:37 AM

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the single target is fine, dio and artemis are just better

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I don't really use the special to clear rooms with chiron

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you get some aoe if enemies are standing on top of each other though

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 10:39 AM

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could try it out and see if it's good

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using special to clear room that is

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 10:40 AM

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you don't deal enough damage for that if you only hit something with a single or two special arrows

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 10:40 AM

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im counting on the jolted since that does about 100+

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 10:40 AM

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if you are fighting flamewheels or rats absolutely but other than that you have to do enemies one by one with chiron

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you need them to attack like 3-4 times to deal enough damage, it is better to just press special 3 times to kill them instantly without risking atatcks

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 10:42 AM

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i see

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i'm thinking the skulls and witches mostly. anything bigger will use burst

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 10:45 AM

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just fought asterius, it definitely falls off but early on it is really good

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still need the legendary

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 10:46 AM

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thanks for testing btw 😆

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 10:50 AM

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why did I pick em3

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just died to theseus and asterius lol

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overall the build seems decent enough but gets outclassed by artemis and dio

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not sure about ares,I only played that one once

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 10:51 AM

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ah i see

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 10:54 AM

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I should have taken some attack with a status curse too, I don't think I ever got priviledged status off and I forgot to switch to family favourite

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btw does anyone have an idea why you get guan yu before the other hidden aspects when the helth loss is so crippling at rank one?

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they should just give you arthur

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you loose like 70%

cosmic hornet Dec 23, 2020, 10:56 AM

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i'm guessing guan yu was the first hidden aspect they implemented

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so it got the short end of the stick

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 10:56 AM

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still no reason not to change it to any of the others

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 11:00 AM

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cold fusion or lightning rod probably good boons to go for with the chiron zeus build

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 11:02 AM

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lightning rod yes, not sure about cold fusion. You only really focus on one enmy most of the time and jolted should not ever expire opn that enemy

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if I also have lightning rod or something like zeus call I might pick it

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but I would pick double strike and splitting bolt over that

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 11:04 AM

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yeah makes sense

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 11:05 AM

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not sure if the boon that makes lightning strike aoe bigger is better but that's also pretty bad lol

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 11:06 AM

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i think cold fusion might have bigger potential than that though. like, if hades is doing his 3 hit combo, your jolted fell off from his first attack and your repositioning rather than pelting him with arrows. he could have jolt himself 3 times

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same for asterius

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 11:07 AM

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yeah true but that is a pretty small usecase

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double strike and splitting bolt give damage constantly though

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the best use for copld fusion are the crystakl things in styx with lasers, they die pretty quickly to it

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but other than that I don't think it is good

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 11:10 AM

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yeah, other options seem more useful

hollow helm Dec 23, 2020, 11:30 AM

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What build should I go for when learning how to Beo? Also how critical are levels on Beo since I'm a bit short on blood.

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 11:33 AM

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dio is great damage

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I wouldn't say you need levels, but they add quite a biot of damage

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beowulf with dio is stupid amounts of damage

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it should also be great with aphro but I never tried

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 11:46 AM

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f l o o d f l a r e

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 11:50 AM

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that as well

hollow helm Dec 23, 2020, 11:50 AM

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Is Flood Flare legit now? Is it Flood Stygian or Flood Infernal? Might test it out since Aphro feels hit and miss for me

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 11:50 AM

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i think it is

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felt 1 million times easier than dio beo on anyheat and 50 heat lmao

hollow helm Dec 23, 2020, 11:51 AM

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I see, I assume it's Flood Flare into Waves Pounding/Rupture/Slam or Sea Storm as a build then, then trying to get Mirage as well

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 11:51 AM

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mirage is priority numero uno

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then probably wave pounding/sea storm/breaking wave

hollow helm Dec 23, 2020, 11:53 AM

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Which of the cast mirrors do I take, Stygian or Infernal?

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 11:53 AM

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stygian for dio, infernal for the rest

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 12:23 PM

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Alright I've got the mirror fully opened up now so I'm going to reset it and spend my darkness wisely this time. Any 'must haves' for getting my first escape?

lavish lynx Dec 23, 2020, 12:24 PM

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Hello. I fail to get any dps out of the bow. What are good builds so I can finally get good times on a run?

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 12:34 PM

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First off all try getting used to getting off a powershot most of the time

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You should also be dashing between shots so they fire faster

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Good boons are the usual damage boons for attack(artemis, aphro, anything with a high damage %)

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This is different for hera and chiron, they focus on the cast and special respectively

lavish lynx Dec 23, 2020, 12:50 PM

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oki

stray apex Dec 23, 2020, 1:57 PM

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what is best boons for aspect of rama?

gusty rapids Dec 23, 2020, 1:59 PM

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big chunky attacks like artemis or aphro, and something that applies status on the special (demeter, dionysus, ares, zeus are all good)

lavish lynx Dec 23, 2020, 2:00 PM

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seriously this is so stupid. every time I use the sword Hades wrecks me in the boss fight.

stray apex Dec 23, 2020, 2:00 PM

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lavish lynx seriously this is so stupid. every time I use the sword Hades wrecks me in the b...

i feel u

lavish lynx Dec 23, 2020, 2:00 PM

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It feels like I take 100% more damage than with any other weaponj

stray apex Dec 23, 2020, 2:00 PM

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gusty rapids big chunky attacks like artemis or aphro, and something that applies status on t...

thanks man ❤️

lavish lynx Dec 23, 2020, 2:00 PM

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Super Giant needs to buff this i dont know.

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give it more range or whatever it´s so annoying

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I can gun through with the rail, poke to death with the bow, block+burst with the shield or spam the fists but I cant do anything with the sword.

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not even on heat 2 or so

stray apex Dec 23, 2020, 2:02 PM

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i havent even cleared once with sword

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i ve done it only with bow and rail

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 2:08 PM

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if playing a certain weapon dont work for you....get tidal dash, and sea storm and any boons that improve knockbacks, and your weapon doesnt matter. dash is your main damage 😆

cloud vault Dec 23, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Low heat Nemesis is unstoppable

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Poseidon is very strong too for cast builds

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Hidden sword also destroys low heat

lavish lynx Dec 23, 2020, 3:42 PM

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I just died against Hades with the sword.... again....

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_ -

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I am so close to put in God Mode.....

sonic juniper Dec 23, 2020, 3:43 PM

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Post your build?

fair cairn Dec 23, 2020, 3:50 PM

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sword is 100% viable against Hades, all aspects considered

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one of the aspects is actually one of the easiest melee build to get clears

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 3:54 PM

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my highest heat is with sword

chilly crystal Dec 23, 2020, 4:02 PM

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does draining cutter work in conjunction with kills that are the results of status inflicted by special?

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like a special that inflicts doom which in turn kills them a second later?

cunning urchin Dec 23, 2020, 4:12 PM

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No.

chilly crystal Dec 23, 2020, 4:21 PM

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damn, ok thanks

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 4:21 PM

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sord :)

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 4:23 PM

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https://imgur.com/787s5LZ.jpg

Imgur

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marvelous!

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Now I just need an Attack boon...

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somehow I've made it to Elysium without one

cloud vault Dec 23, 2020, 4:24 PM

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Your chaos boons are quite powerful

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 4:26 PM

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https://imgur.com/u3lvJQk.jpg

Imgur

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the only reason I've made it this far...

stone harbor Dec 23, 2020, 4:28 PM

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merciful end damage is just silly lol

cloud vault Dec 23, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Calisthenics 2 is one of the worst things

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Guan Yu hammer: winged serpent, massive spin or serrated point

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Massive spin actually could be good here

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 4:36 PM

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spine probably

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spin

fair cairn Dec 23, 2020, 4:36 PM

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spin

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Thanks!

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 4:37 PM

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fair cairn Dec 23, 2020, 4:40 PM

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s🅱️in

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 4:41 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/328246239160434691/791344821679423488/Screenshot_20201223-103802__01.jpg

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Casual all Zeus offering for guan Yu run. I hate this thing lol

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Zeus cast slaps

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Does %atk dmg chaos boon affect lightning strike dmg or just the hit dmg?

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 4:49 PM

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just hit

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Ty

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 5:18 PM

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you know it's going to be a good run when you start off with two treasure urns in the first room

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Bleh dead to boss with guan Yu all Zeus build. Mostly bc I can’t dodge tho

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Tho lightning strike and dash really not ideal lol

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 5:30 PM

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I'm pretty sure if you took all the runs I've won with divine dash

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and the runs I've won without it...

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the former would be a much, much larger category

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Does everyone go into a run with an idea for what they want to build? I've just been winging it up til now but not having much success

rare kindle Dec 23, 2020, 5:33 PM

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I feel like Aphrodite legendary is much easier to get compared to other legendaries

sonic mural Dec 23, 2020, 5:34 PM

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turbid needle Does everyone go into a run with an idea for what they want to build? I've just ...

for low heat runs not so much

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high heat is def necessary

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:34 PM

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I'm not even to the point where the term heat means anything to me so I guess I can keep on trucking, thanks tho!

sonic mural Dec 23, 2020, 5:35 PM

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if you havent gotten first clear yet, then yah you can basically experiment and build anything

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 5:36 PM

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lol, using Aspect of Hera. Just reached Asphodel.

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Haven't gotten any cast boons yet.

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First room in Asphodel is Daedalus hammer, my first daedalus hammer offer.

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But there's also an Erebus chamber with Pom upgrade...

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I really don't think I need daedalus hammer, honestly, with aspect of hera

sonic mural Dec 23, 2020, 5:38 PM

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does power shots affect hera?

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 5:39 PM

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ARGH, got hit in erebus with a stupid kamakaze chariot

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I mean, it affects the base damage

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but aspect of hera you want to get boon for cast damage

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However, unlike shield, the cast damage isn't increased

sonic mural Dec 23, 2020, 5:39 PM

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then the hammer which negates charging an attack at the expense of powershotting might be good

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 5:41 PM

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sonic mural if you havent gotten first clear yet, then yah you can basically experiment and ...

Yeah still no clear for me. 23 (?) attempts and counting

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Arthur aspect, divine strike, hunter dash: do I take Boss Ares boon or Chaos gate? Kinda interesting

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I think I’m supposed to take Ares

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 5:42 PM

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arthur you want attack % increase

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because he hits like a truck anyway

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with enough % increase on attack you can hit for 1000+ with third strike

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Yeah i can try chaos and reroll to look

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 5:43 PM

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because base damage is 200

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on third attack

fair cairn Dec 23, 2020, 5:46 PM

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arty and chaos attack boons are the best for arthur

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Or aphro too

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 5:47 PM

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https://imgur.com/4Xwv8Zb.jpg

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my current run

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I'm liking where this is going

latent frigate Dec 23, 2020, 6:09 PM

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+85% gold geez

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gonna have enough to buy out the entire styx shop

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 6:11 PM

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elysium: chaos gate, hermes, or daedalus hammer...

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wow this is rough lol

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 6:12 PM

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take the chaos

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 6:12 PM

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chaos 💯

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 6:12 PM

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the other two will come back

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 6:12 PM

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I know hammer will, but hermes will too?

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like it's fated to show up again?

past raven Dec 23, 2020, 6:13 PM

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It’s pretty likely that you’ll find at least one more Hermes boon

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I usually get one in the ||charon shop in styx|| so try saving up some gold

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 6:14 PM

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https://imgur.com/E02OmS1.jpg

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I have 85% gold increase already from chaos, so that first one is right out...

past raven Dec 23, 2020, 6:14 PM

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Do you have an upgraded cast

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 6:14 PM

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I'm using Aspect of Hera, but I don't have a cast boon yet

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second one would be fantastic, but I don't have a special boon yet either, so Maimed Shot would be horrible, I'd have no way to kill anything

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I could try rerolling again

past raven Dec 23, 2020, 6:15 PM

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How close are you to the boss

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 6:15 PM

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I just cleared second room of elysium

past raven Dec 23, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Because facing it with that would be very difficult

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Ok

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I’d honestly just re-roll

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You still have 2 and you’re in elysium

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 6:16 PM

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https://imgur.com/8iogfJa.jpg

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I'll take the 75 life I think

past raven Dec 23, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Yeah that’s what I’d do

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 6:17 PM

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That's 37 more health from every death defiance

analog patio Dec 23, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Better privileged status or family favorite?

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 6:27 PM

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I use family favorite because it's easier to achieve

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for instance my current bonus is 25%

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with boons from areas, zeus, dio, athena, and chaos

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but I don't have hangover from dio

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and I don't have chill or weak

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so getting 40% from privileged would be difficult...

analog patio Dec 23, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Mmh ok

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Thanks

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gilmanlove

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 6:30 PM

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obviously though 40% > 25% ;-P

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so if you can get hangover and chill, for instance, things that last a long time

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that's an easy 40% damage boost

neon bone Dec 23, 2020, 6:44 PM

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What’s a good build for the sword that dislodges the red gems?

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 6:45 PM

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exit wounds

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from artemis

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https://imgur.com/YHXC3w0.jpg

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tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Ignite whatcha think: Fist/Zagreus aspect run. Nothing so far except Poseidon special. Next choice is boss aphro or boss Artemis.

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I think Aphro...just get busted strike

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 6:46 PM

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I generally dislike artemis, so, yeah, aphro 😉

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Artemis is always just meh to me

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except for duo with zeus

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with 3 casts, that lightning damage is nice

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https://imgur.com/6I3rNhV.jpg

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finished run

raven granite Dec 23, 2020, 7:20 PM

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How are you guys able to post images here? I don't have the option

pallid willow Dec 23, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Link to imgur I think and discord will just upload the pic

lavish lynx Dec 23, 2020, 7:21 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/639584656685269023/791384947012927498/unknown.png?width=1202&height=676

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FINALLY!

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And Arthur win!

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🥶

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I never ever use this weapon again!

raven granite Dec 23, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Hmmm, Mirage Shot or Hunting Blades?

lavish lynx Dec 23, 2020, 7:23 PM

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DAMN I FORGOT TO USE MORT AGAIN!

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Arthur great. Never lose with the thing lol

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 7:33 PM

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raven granite Hmmm, Mirage Shot or Hunting Blades?

taking hunting blades first

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mirage does nothing for slicing shot without HB first

raven granite Dec 23, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Oh wow

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I chose Mirage Shot and suspected it wasn't working

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I'll know for next time I suppose

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Thank you

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 7:33 PM

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i dont mean exactly nothing

dry ember Dec 23, 2020, 7:34 PM

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lavish lynx I never ever use this weapon again!

Did you know you can dash with Arthur and continue your big swings?

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 7:34 PM

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it still shoots the second cast

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both slicing shots just do nothing

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until they home

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 7:37 PM

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raven granite I chose Mirage Shot and suspected it wasn't working

shame, hunting blades is like guaranteed win 😆

raven granite Dec 23, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Not gonna lie, that was fastest Hades clear. I was using Rama and stacked Hammers that made the Attack wayyyyy too slow, so I went with the trusty Cast and Dash buffs shadesmile

dry ember Dec 23, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Rama and Explosive brick your run. You can't change my mind.

raven granite Dec 23, 2020, 7:39 PM

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No lies detected.

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 7:40 PM

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foxhope its funny you say that

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hades3234 purposely took it yesterday to prove some point

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idk what he was trying to prove

dry ember Dec 23, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Well did he make his point?

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 7:41 PM

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not sure

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it was kind of a lot of damage

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 7:41 PM

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lmao i just bricked my rama run with that

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at the heroes EM boss

raven granite Dec 23, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Wonder if I should do a dash knockback run if I'm trying to clear with Gilgamesh

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 7:43 PM

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not a bad idea proto, but i love punching wretches

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Explosive plus point blank is kinda funny lol

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Lol Poseidon special Rama is pretty good

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Got bored with Zeus Rama all@the time

rare kindle Dec 23, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Ares special Rama is pretty good too

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My current run has Aphrodite attack, Zeus special

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Yeah I have Ares Chain shot attack presently

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Ahh yaaas epic Rupture

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Okay here we go

rare kindle Dec 23, 2020, 8:04 PM

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My first winning run I did with Rama I took explosive shot, out of curiosity at the interactions

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Yeah that’s rough lol

rare kindle Dec 23, 2020, 8:05 PM

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It looked like it did a ton of damage, but yeah, the slower charging hurts a bit

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Rupture breaking wave and doom attack def doing the thing

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 8:10 PM

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@coarse moss tbf gilgamesh doesn't punch Keepo

gloomy zenith Dec 23, 2020, 8:42 PM

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is hades aspect spear good/fun? if so, what boons are good on it?

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 8:45 PM

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echo radish <@464584399061778462> tbf gilgamesh doesn't punch Keepo

true lol

humble gate Dec 23, 2020, 8:45 PM

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I think like all the non-achilles spears it's fun with good hammer rng and a slog without it

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The hammer that speeds up your spin attack is fun.

gloomy zenith Dec 23, 2020, 8:46 PM

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i love spear, but i feel like i hade to play achilles

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*have

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because of how dang good it is

rare kindle Dec 23, 2020, 8:46 PM

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I like the serrated edge hammer, that plus a big attack damage% boon is good

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 8:46 PM

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i like the huge spin that hades aspect has. you can hit through walls and stuff. even in last boss you can hit from behind pillar

gloomy zenith Dec 23, 2020, 8:46 PM

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neat. i’ll try it out

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 8:47 PM

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All spears feel the same to me

gloomy zenith Dec 23, 2020, 8:47 PM

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but even for spin attack achilles is broken because of the huge damage bonus

humble gate Dec 23, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Its pretty versatile with boons I think. If you get serrated edge hammer you can go Artemis and spam dash attack for max damage. If you get the spin attack speed up hammer you can go Aphro or Athena on your attack for damage plus defense

echo radish Dec 23, 2020, 8:48 PM

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The ways I'd build for them just aren't very different in general is what I'm trying to say I guess

opal lodge Dec 23, 2020, 8:48 PM

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flurry jab on achilles/zag is insane

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literally take flurry jab over any other hammer

cunning geode Dec 23, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Is there any effective strategy of winning with the Guan Yu? Seems like a big downgrade to me, tho maybe I'm wrong

humble gate Dec 23, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Get explosive skewer. Spam special.

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And charged skewer

proven osprey Dec 23, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Exploding launcher does not exist for GY

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Charged skewer is indeed the hammer you look for

cunning geode Dec 23, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Yeah it's basically already the same as exploding launcher

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Just a bit smaller

humble gate Dec 23, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Yeah that's right

cunning geode Dec 23, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Guess I'll look for that upgrade

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And also will farm titan blood so the life decrease won't be so big

proven osprey Dec 23, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Other than that spin hammers are good, serrated risky but nice dps

humble gate Dec 23, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Does anyone else ever check to see what their first boon is and then give up and pick their weapon based on that?

cunning geode Dec 23, 2020, 8:56 PM

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I can imagine the spin attack being so much more usable with quick spin

proven osprey Dec 23, 2020, 8:56 PM

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It's easier

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Although with a bit of practice the spin is fine as is

cunning geode Dec 23, 2020, 8:57 PM

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It's like with Arthur, it's got amazing moves but it's sooo slooooooow

humble gate Dec 23, 2020, 8:57 PM

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I feel like Guan Yu's spin attack needs the same dash mechanics as Arthur's standard attack combo

cunning geode Dec 23, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Although I can't say bad things about Arthur when it literally has given me 4k crits

humble gate Dec 23, 2020, 8:58 PM

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If you dash while charging spin with guan yu it just fires off and then you dash

cunning geode Dec 23, 2020, 8:59 PM

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That being said I've yet to beat the final boss with Arthur

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That slowness came into play ngl

humble gate Dec 23, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Arthur is my best sword aspect :zaglol:

Especially against the final boss

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 9:01 PM

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https://imgur.com/xMlP2Tz.jpg

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my current arthur run 😉

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with 80% costs, I won't be spending anything, but I will be getting a massive damage boost

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 9:05 PM

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cunning geode That being said I've yet to beat the final boss with Arthur

try arthur with chill. enemies in the hallowed ground with chill cant do anything while you backstab them lol

mellow forge Dec 23, 2020, 9:08 PM

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does chiron with zeus special work btw? like how many lightning bolts does it shoot when all 8 arrows hit?

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 9:08 PM

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there is a cooldown

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you'll get 1 lightning bolt

mellow forge Dec 23, 2020, 9:08 PM

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oof

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 9:08 PM

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the cooldown is per enemy

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so if you used normal bow special and hit 8 enemies, that's 8 lightning bolts

mellow forge Dec 23, 2020, 9:08 PM

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so good for normal bow special but awful for chiron

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 9:08 PM

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but if you hit the same enemy 8 times, that's one lightning bolt

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 9:08 PM

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its not 1, you get 3 bolts apparently. if thunder flourish epic thats 135 damage. not bad

humble gate Dec 23, 2020, 9:08 PM

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coarse moss try arthur with chill. enemies in the hallowed ground with chill cant do anythin...

Reminds me I've never seen the Dio/Athena Duo while using Arthur. Should be a good meme build

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 9:09 PM

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I don't know if you could shotgun normal bow's special at the same target and get 8 lightning bolts though

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you would need to be very close

mellow forge Dec 23, 2020, 9:09 PM

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i might just restart this run and pick rail instead and try a zeus rail build since its apparently op

plain plover Dec 23, 2020, 9:17 PM

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Is it possible to get two extra casts from chaos in one run?

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 9:17 PM

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yeah

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because the different rarities are called differently, they are different boons

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https://i.imgur.com/nnXXnkJ.jpg

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like that

nocturne pivot Dec 23, 2020, 9:20 PM

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I don't feel like a mouse has enough buttons for me to like mouse and keyboard play

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 9:21 PM

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why?

nocturne pivot Dec 23, 2020, 9:21 PM

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I want to dash, cast, attack, and special with mouse because like no other buttons feel right

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 9:21 PM

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WASD to move, Q to cast, E to use, R to reload, F to call, 1 to summon

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then left mouse attack, right mouse dash, and side mouse (thumb) for special

nocturne pivot Dec 23, 2020, 9:22 PM

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I don't have side mouse

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 9:22 PM

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oh, well, there's your problem 😉

nocturne pivot Dec 23, 2020, 9:22 PM

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True

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Like maybe if I had a 4 key mouse then maybe id like it but I don't think it's for me

coarse moss Dec 23, 2020, 9:24 PM

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i been using ps4 controller

nocturne pivot Dec 23, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Before I got pc version i was using switch controller

left oak Dec 23, 2020, 9:45 PM

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You never really know what you're capable of and how much damage you're willing to just eat until you have 1:57 to beat Theseus and Asterius

sonic mural Dec 23, 2020, 9:51 PM

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what heat level?

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 9:59 PM

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sometimes a run is so bad, you just need to stand in the lava

stark heath Dec 23, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Question, a quick check of the wiki didn't offer me an answer to how different sources of Hangover work. Is it a maximum of five stacks no matter the source, or does each source have its own set of stacks? If it's max five, does it combine Hangover damage from each source, or only use the highest damaging one in your build?

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 10:13 PM

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stark heath Question, a quick check of the wiki didn't offer me an answer to how different s...

Max stacks no matter the source

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each stack has different damage depending on the boon it comes from

cunning urchin Dec 23, 2020, 10:13 PM

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New stacks will overwrite old stacks.

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 10:14 PM

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So not gud to have multiple sources, basically

stark heath Dec 23, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Righteo, figured that would be the case. Thanks for the reply!

versed spoke Dec 23, 2020, 10:24 PM

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So say I want a reroll on the anvil. I pick it up, and I don't like it. When I'm next to Charon and try to quit, the game wont let me, so I have to enter one of the combat chamber, then it allows me to quit. When I restart the game, I'm still in the combat chamber and I can't undo my choice.

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 10:25 PM

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huh it must not work on switch then

versed spoke Dec 23, 2020, 10:25 PM

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It sucks being a lowly console peasant.

sonic mural Dec 23, 2020, 10:26 PM

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an anvil counts as buying something

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it'll save there

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 10:26 PM

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I've been able to savescum it on pc

versed spoke Dec 23, 2020, 10:26 PM

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I love savescuming. Even the name is scumy

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 10:40 PM

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I have a really hard time noticing the difference between normal attack and dash strike with sword

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they look and feel identical

gloomy zenith Dec 23, 2020, 10:43 PM

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I’ve never had that problem. The dash strike looks like a lunging thrust to me

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 10:44 PM

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with excalibur

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they both do a lunging thrust on the first move

gloomy zenith Dec 23, 2020, 10:44 PM

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ohh i soo

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*see

keen mesa Dec 23, 2020, 10:44 PM

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the only difference is that dask-strike has a little star flash

gloomy zenith Dec 23, 2020, 10:45 PM

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yeah, it can be rough with excalliber sometimes

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i usually just rely on how my inputs feel, but even that can be hard

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 10:46 PM

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u get in a rhythm for Arthur dash attack

cunning geode Dec 23, 2020, 11:05 PM

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So, about the whole "dealing more damage to undamaged enemies"

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Do armored enemies count as undamaged until you start depleting their red health?

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Or does it only count the first ever hit to the enemy

forest marsh Dec 23, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Just first hit, armour or not

bright sandal Dec 23, 2020, 11:17 PM

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So I just found out there's a priority mechanic in the game, and the way it's been explained to me is that you're guaranteed at least 1 priority boon if you don't have priority slots filled (attack, special, cast, dash)

So what I usually do is if I know for sure I'm not going to be using an attack in the game, like cast or special, I just avoid all boons for it and will take even mediocre boons over it.

But with the priority mechanic, should I be taking those priority boons even knowing I'm not gonna use it if my other choices are mediocre, given that it would give me more boon choice later in the run as they wouldn't be taken by priority boons?

forest marsh Dec 23, 2020, 11:19 PM

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It depends on the situation, but yes. If you're looking for non-core boons or tier 2/3 boons, filling out your slots first will make them appear faster

sonic mural Dec 23, 2020, 11:20 PM

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bright sandal So I just found out there's a priority mechanic in the game, and the way it's be...

is this just because getting a core boon will unlock tier 2 boons and create more options, or is there actually a priority mechanic?

bright sandal Dec 23, 2020, 11:21 PM

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God this would've been such good info for me, because I always get annoyed seeing the same boons for a slot I'm not using over and over

bright sandal Dec 23, 2020, 11:21 PM

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sonic mural is this just because getting a core boon will unlock tier 2 boons and create mor...

I think it's a mechanic that guarantees at least one boon if they're not filled

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 11:29 PM

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lol Poseidon special Rama with Rupture, sea storm, and jolted is a sight to behold

sonic mural Dec 23, 2020, 11:33 PM

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have only played rama a few times but why sea storm isnt the attack on rama super slow?

forest marsh Dec 23, 2020, 11:34 PM

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The special is fast

tame bison Dec 23, 2020, 11:39 PM

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And double knock back now lol

pale kayak Dec 23, 2020, 11:41 PM

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I'm still needing to get Divine Protection, as that's the last legendary boon in the game I still haven't acquired. x.x

turbid needle Dec 23, 2020, 11:58 PM

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What's a fun grandmama build that isn't meme beam

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i prolly need to clear my prophecies now

untold vortex Dec 24, 2020, 12:01 AM

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chiron bow with Demeter special is fun

keen mesa Dec 24, 2020, 12:24 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/Pa8SDPC.png

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torn between 1 and 3

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although I think I should go for the first one...

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because I'm playing with -100% healing

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https://i.imgur.com/aKMKCCu.png

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sullen valley Dec 24, 2020, 12:34 AM

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Gets 2 Common Boons, both are what I want
Eh...
Wants to save them for better rarities for later...Remembers rerolling for rarity is a trap
...Bunk it, what else do you-
Reroll gave me a Duo boon
ooooooooo-

balmy portal Dec 24, 2020, 12:35 AM

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turbid needle I've been able to savescum it on pc

they fixed the savescumming at some point

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now it rolls you out of the run as if you selected "Abandon" if you force quit it

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and is disabled for quitting between saves

sand vapor Dec 24, 2020, 12:56 AM

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faster spin > massive spin

tired tulip Dec 24, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Can someone come to my house and kill Hades with something that isn’t the bow or gun please?

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What builds work for someone who’s bad at this game?

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Also I want to get the achievement for having stubborn defiance on and then I am never using it again

tame bison Dec 24, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Cranberry: try Achilles spear with Aphro strike/doom special and Priveleged status

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Also sword: aphro/Artemis strike, Athena dash, some special that applies a status, and maybe Poseidon/Athena call.

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Also Dio call is great on sword/shield imo.

tired tulip Dec 24, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Thanks I’ll give those a whirl

tame bison Dec 24, 2020, 1:06 AM

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I think mainly using deflect dash and a Call that provides invulnerability for melee helped me a lot

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Except Ares call I hate his

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Shield...you can try lightning strike and lots of Zeus boons. Same with gloves

tired tulip Dec 24, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Thought I had something going with this but I’m a failure

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Athena and Dionysus everything

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And Demeter strike

tame bison Dec 24, 2020, 1:12 AM

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||Dio strike with doom special spear is also fine. Like Achilles aspect plus that stuff. It’s nice to have flurry jab tho to apply hangover faster||

keen mesa Dec 24, 2020, 1:16 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/c8wQTLv.jpg

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This is going... absolutely not in the direction I wanted, haha

frigid pewter Dec 24, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Anyone know if ares is good on the special for Chiron bow?

small stirrup Dec 24, 2020, 1:17 AM

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I've tried and it worked! squirtnya

mellow forge Dec 24, 2020, 1:17 AM

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keen mesa https://i.imgur.com/c8wQTLv.jpg

the first run i ever finished was with a hazard bomb build lol, stupidest build i've ever played but i really want to do it again at some point

small stirrup Dec 24, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Maybe not the best but it's effective

mellow forge Dec 24, 2020, 1:18 AM

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frigid pewter Anyone know if ares is good on the special for Chiron bow?

i'd say that you're not really getting anything from it unless you get that boon that does extra damage for each time you stack doom (dire misfortune)

rare kindle Dec 24, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Hope for an artemis special

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for those big crits

mellow forge Dec 24, 2020, 1:21 AM

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aphrodite on attack, ares on special, get their duo + impending doom + dire misfortune could be ok probably

frigid pewter Dec 24, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Artemis on special dio on attack?

raven granite Dec 24, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Does dash-strike and dash-attack buffs work with the Bow?

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They don't seem like they would

frigid pewter Dec 24, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Or aphro on attack

mellow forge Dec 24, 2020, 1:23 AM

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yea cause you can still dash-attack/dask-strike with the bow

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aphro/art on special (im enjoying dem on special with chiron atm tho), aphro/ares/art on attack imo

visual nimbus Dec 24, 2020, 1:37 AM

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elisium archers, is there a trick I'm missing? when there's 2-3 of them up, they seem to be able to just constantly destroy my hp even when trying to dash immune their hits as much as possible

mellow forge Dec 24, 2020, 1:45 AM

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stun lock them/hide behind walls/dodge towards the arrow

visual nimbus Dec 24, 2020, 1:52 AM

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how does one stunlock? other then smashing into walls?

keen mesa Dec 24, 2020, 1:55 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/wkNPNtY.png

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successful special run

dry ember Dec 24, 2020, 2:06 AM

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visual nimbus how does one stunlock? other then smashing into walls?

You can stunlock by repeatedly attacking the enemies. This effect is notable when using fists, for example. Note that armored enemies cannot be stunned, you need to strip their armor first.

frigid pewter Dec 24, 2020, 2:07 AM

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What are some good guan yu builds?

visual nimbus Dec 24, 2020, 2:08 AM

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dry ember You can stunlock by repeatedly attacking the enemies. This effect is notable whe...

is this restricted to melee weaponry (and attacks specifically rather than specials/casts/attacks)?

dry ember Dec 24, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Special/cast/attack all can stun, or stagger, really. Ranged weapon can certainly do that, too, this depends on the fire rate. Take bow for example, normally it's hard to stunlock because you need to charge the bow.

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But wtih flurry shot, now you can stunlock. (again, if the enemy has no armor)

pale kayak Dec 24, 2020, 2:17 AM

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I finally manged to get all the Legendary Boons today!

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I was missing Divine Protection!

tame bison Dec 24, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Nice. Im missing grandma’s

sullen valley Dec 24, 2020, 2:20 AM

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visual nimbus is this restricted to melee weaponry (and attacks specifically rather than speci...

The Rail, even Hestia Shots as senseless as it feels is the only weapon who cannot Hit Stun with its Attack. Special definitely Stun Hits though.

tame bison Dec 24, 2020, 2:28 AM

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3rd win with Lucifer. Still think it’s garbage. Lol

opal lodge Dec 24, 2020, 2:28 AM

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luci is great

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probs my favorite rail

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hard to play well

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since you dont get i frames if you attack and dash

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you can get punished hard for just holding down attack

sullen valley Dec 24, 2020, 2:29 AM

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opal lodge since you dont get i frames if you attack and dash

You excuse me?

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What, so if you get hit with a Spear's spin attack, you can't do anything about it?

opal lodge Dec 24, 2020, 2:30 AM

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just

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stop firing

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and dash

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or

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if youre a gamer

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you can gain i frames by dash reloading

frigid pewter Dec 24, 2020, 2:31 AM

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I had trouble with luci until I figured out I should hold the attack and just tap dash

sullen valley Dec 24, 2020, 2:31 AM

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I mean typically you still get I-frames if you dash attack with any other aspect, but

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Why?

opal lodge Dec 24, 2020, 2:31 AM

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lucifer cant dash attack

sullen valley Dec 24, 2020, 2:31 AM

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If it deals faster damage for the duration of your dash, I'm p sure that's a Dash Attack

sonic juniper Dec 24, 2020, 2:32 AM

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You never get i-frames during a dash attack, the attack cancels the i-frames iirc

opal lodge Dec 24, 2020, 2:32 AM

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instead you get the ability to ramp up during your dash

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its not a dash attack

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the ramp stays the sane

sullen valley Dec 24, 2020, 2:32 AM

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I need to talk to Skelly some more

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Like, ramping up your damage consumes more ammo, right?

sonic juniper Dec 24, 2020, 2:34 AM

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frigid pewter What are some good guan yu builds?

Scale attack/special, don't get knockback on attack

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Attack can kind of have fast attack speed due to the spin

fallen mirage Dec 24, 2020, 2:41 AM

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For other aspects, you get iframes for the portion of the dash where you're not dash-attacking. As soon as the attack starts, you lose your iframes. Lucifer you never stop attacking, so you never get the iframes

sullen valley Dec 24, 2020, 2:46 AM

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oof

turbid needle Dec 24, 2020, 3:01 AM

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does dashing spin attack give you iframes

sonic juniper Dec 24, 2020, 3:02 AM

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Yes

turbid needle Dec 24, 2020, 3:02 AM

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hype

keen mesa Dec 24, 2020, 3:15 AM

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hrm, I have two 75% gold buffs, 20 gold dropped, it increased to 50, which means it's additive, nice

plucky harbor Dec 24, 2020, 3:21 AM

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Does hestia go well with spreadfire?

cunning urchin Dec 24, 2020, 3:21 AM

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Nope.

plucky harbor Dec 24, 2020, 3:22 AM

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Awww

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Okie

cunning urchin Dec 24, 2020, 3:22 AM

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The Empowered Shot isn't affected by Spread Fire at all.

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Best hammers for Hestia are Piercing Fire, Ricochet Fire, and Explosive Fire probably in that order. I also like Targeting System.

plucky harbor Dec 24, 2020, 3:23 AM

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Targeting system goes well with every rail aspect

cunning urchin Dec 24, 2020, 3:23 AM

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It does.

stone harbor Dec 24, 2020, 3:28 AM

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Targeting system is the one that makes bullets curve to the target, right?

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Does that even work with hestia-empowered shots?

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I never notived a difference

cunning urchin Dec 24, 2020, 3:28 AM

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No, that's Seeking Fire.

stone harbor Dec 24, 2020, 3:29 AM

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Nvm then

cunning urchin Dec 24, 2020, 3:40 AM

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Foes targeted by your **Special **move slower and take +30% damage.

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That one's Targeting System.

mild raft Dec 24, 2020, 4:34 AM

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If you apply two dooms that deal different damage which one gets used for the damage

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Like if I have special doom that deals x damage and attack doom that deals y damage

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and I hit an enemy with both attack and special how much damage do they take

cunning urchin Dec 24, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Doom doesn't overwrite itself.

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So they'll just take damage from the first Doom you applied.

fair cairn Dec 24, 2020, 4:43 AM

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doom doesnt stack

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although there is one boon that amplifies it with extra doom applications

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which is good

mild raft Dec 24, 2020, 4:44 AM

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alright so it's better to stick with one doom boon rather than get one for both attack and special

fair cairn Dec 24, 2020, 4:44 AM

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pretty much

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use something else on special

mild raft Dec 24, 2020, 4:44 AM

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from looking at the numbers on the wiki the attack boon seems like the better option

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since their damage is similar and attack is better for some reason at heroic

fair cairn Dec 24, 2020, 4:44 AM

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aphro or athena on the other is good

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for merciful end or curse of longing

mild raft Dec 24, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Yea very true

keen mesa Dec 24, 2020, 4:45 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/T4vgrW3.jpg

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current beowulf run

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I also have epic god guage for 1% per 1 sec

fair cairn Dec 24, 2020, 4:46 AM

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LV8 BY chamber 25?

keen mesa Dec 24, 2020, 4:46 AM

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gonna be invincible

mild raft Dec 24, 2020, 4:47 AM

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this man fiending poms

keen mesa Dec 24, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Pom Blossom

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keepsake

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then just don't take any other boons ;-P

fair cairn Dec 24, 2020, 4:47 AM

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well yeah by chamber 25 (23 actual chambers) that means you'd have a ton of RNG luck to pom that exact thing

keen mesa Dec 24, 2020, 4:47 AM

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My first boon was cast, I didn't pick up my second boon for ages

fair cairn Dec 24, 2020, 4:47 AM

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and get a lot of poms on the way

mild raft Dec 24, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Wait can that upgrade 1 boon multiple times?

keen mesa Dec 24, 2020, 4:48 AM

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of course

fair cairn Dec 24, 2020, 4:48 AM

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yep

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it's RNG

mild raft Dec 24, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Oh

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I never considered that

keen mesa Dec 24, 2020, 4:48 AM

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my highest level on an ability is level 21

mild raft Dec 24, 2020, 4:48 AM

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This is interesting

keen mesa Dec 24, 2020, 4:48 AM

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with arthur, boon attack

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I just never took anything else

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and the styx chambers each count

fair cairn Dec 24, 2020, 4:48 AM

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arthur, arty attack, athena call, done

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dont need anything else

keen mesa Dec 24, 2020, 4:48 AM

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that's 33 chambers if you clear them all -- that's 8 levels right there

olive goblet Dec 24, 2020, 5:34 AM

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Looking to understand how to use the triple-$weapon builds... I'm using Lucifer now and am trying out the triple beam, but all it seems to do is just miss 2 of the three beams at all times. Same goes for the spear

fair cairn Dec 24, 2020, 5:48 AM

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black out, scintillating feast and +1 cast at tartarus lets go

pastel hamlet Dec 24, 2020, 5:53 AM

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yo around what heat is it that just going for as much health as possible start to not work

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cuz when i prioritize health over most other stuff i can comfortably win all the runs ive been doing so far, and have been gradually increasing the heat for bounties

cosmic hornet Dec 24, 2020, 5:55 AM

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depending on your heat setup

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on 16 i think it could still work, but 32 not so much

cosmic hornet Dec 24, 2020, 5:57 AM

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olive goblet Looking to understand how to use the triple-$weapon builds... I'm using Lucifer ...

shotgun bow works well on rama and zag

pastel hamlet Dec 24, 2020, 5:58 AM

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hm alrighty cool thanks

olive goblet Dec 24, 2020, 6:04 AM

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cosmic hornet shotgun bow works well on rama and zag

How about Lucifer? It doesn't seem to multiply x3 when using close range, and 90%+ of the time it's just missing with the latter two beams

cosmic hornet Dec 24, 2020, 6:05 AM

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not sure, i never ran lucifer

unkempt pagoda Dec 24, 2020, 6:09 AM

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triple beam is a meme

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not worth the pick

olive goblet Dec 24, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Kinda what I figured; just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something non-obvious

turbid needle Dec 24, 2020, 6:45 AM

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If you really hate crowds Triple Beam and Lightning Strike will delete just about everything.

tranquil violet Dec 24, 2020, 6:52 AM

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Any thoughts on which aspects are best to spend my now copious titan blood on?

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Some benefit more than others from upgrading.

icy glade Dec 24, 2020, 6:52 AM

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depends. what weapons you like?

tranquil violet Dec 24, 2020, 6:52 AM

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I usually like spear and bow

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Was thinking of finishing upgrading Achilles, Chiron and Guan Yu

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But Rama is nice too

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Doesn't seem like it needs the upgrades as much though

spark meteor Dec 24, 2020, 6:53 AM

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chiron doesnt perform well until it's maxed up but when it does oh boy

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guan yu defintiely needs the upgrades

tranquil violet Dec 24, 2020, 6:53 AM

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Just did a Chiron Bow run (I have it at lv 3)

icy glade Dec 24, 2020, 6:53 AM

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rama upgrades will be good at high heat, but right now at lvl 1 it should be ok

tranquil violet Dec 24, 2020, 6:54 AM

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Relentless volley and piercing volley for hammers

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Then Aphrodite attack, Artemis special, Dionysus dash and cast

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And all of their duos

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Plus some other crit/damage related boons

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Fun stuff

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Just stack weak and hangover on enemies then melt them with crits shadesmile

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I need some ideas for Chiron that aren't Artemis/Aphrodite though

#h1-builds-and-combat

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