#h1-builds-and-combat | Supergiant Games | Page 657

half crater Oct 8, 2020, 4:02 PM

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as you’re more than halfway

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none of us peasants do it tho lol

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Lol, yeah, but it's practical around 50 because that point you get to pick your poison from the "no no" pacts

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TD3, AP2, EM4, RI3 etc.

half crater Oct 8, 2020, 4:06 PM

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RI3 is nono

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RI4 just doesn’t exist i guess

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 4:06 PM

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RI4 is a game mode lol

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It's not a real pact

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2 heat is a joke

half crater Oct 8, 2020, 4:06 PM

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lol fair

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 4:06 PM

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RI4 is fun.

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~~Cowards.~~

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dusa

half crater Oct 8, 2020, 4:07 PM

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by itself, sure

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it’s new save clear, except easier

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Ri4, playing the game as base zag? thanthink

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 4:07 PM

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No no. RI4 high heat. dusa

half crater Oct 8, 2020, 4:07 PM

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hmm thanthink

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:07 PM

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@cunning urchin pls

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 4:10 PM

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I go for Smoldering Air on Varatha, Aegis, Coronacht, Exagryph.

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 4:10 PM

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[Malphon, and Stygius]

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 4:10 PM

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No, I just go full Deflect on those two lol.

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Well.

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Hmm.

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On Excalibur, I go for Smoldering Air.

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Do you force Zeus and Aphro then, just to make it easier on yourself? I forgot to force Zeus until satyr tunnels like a fool, and only got one lil' ol boon from him

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 4:11 PM

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rofl

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 4:12 PM

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smoldering air gets kinda boring

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:12 PM

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I was too 🧂y from the game not giving me synergistic gods that I forgot what I was aiming for in the first place

half crater Oct 8, 2020, 4:12 PM

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nothing is boring with enough heat

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 4:12 PM

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You don't really have to "force" Aphro, she's kind of amazing by herself. Well... Strike and Flourish are amazing. She definitely has like... probably some of the lowest boon quality outside of the core offensive ones.

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:12 PM

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~~also gotta drag up those trinkets that I never use~~

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 4:12 PM

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her call is good

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wait thats an offensive one

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 4:13 PM

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Her call is serviceable with Smoldering Air

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 4:13 PM

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legendary is okay

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 4:13 PM

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Amazing vs. bosses, okay against normal packs

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 4:13 PM

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ok her legendary is a little more than just okay

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it makes the final boss not exist

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 4:14 PM

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Excalibur, Varatha, Aegis, Coronacht, Hestia:
Eternal Rose > Thunder Signet/Owl Pendant > whatever > Acorn

Eris:
Thunder Signet > Eternal Rose/Owl Pendant > whatever > Acorn

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:14 PM

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I enjoy aphro's cast as it's the most consistent stand-alone damage out of all of them for me; but jury is still out on efficacy of her damage reduction stuffs

And the quality of charming enemies is always funny. Is her ultimate guaranteed charm? I cannot recall

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 4:14 PM

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Aphro cast, you're definitely doing a cast build, so that's its own thing

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Stygius, Malphon:
Owl Pendant > Arrowhead/Coin Purse/Acorn > Acorn > Acorn

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Aphro's Aid is a scaling duration single target charm, Greater call is always 2500 damage

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:16 PM

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Gotcha, and you have to get that one boon to turn any instance of heartbreak damage into a chance for charm too?

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 4:16 PM

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Sword nuts a lot

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 4:16 PM

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Nah, Smoldering AIr is a lot easier to get

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And the end result is the same

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 4:16 PM

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That's usually the goal. But it varies with what I get in Tartarus.

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 4:16 PM

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Well, "the same," but Unhealthy Fixation works badly on slow hitting weapons

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And it's not deterministic

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 4:17 PM

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You don't have to get anything but Heartbreak Strike/Flourish or, for Eris, Lightning Strike.

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 4:17 PM

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i love the aphro call. max gauge CHUNKS

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 4:17 PM

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Anything after that is extra.

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 4:17 PM

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e.g. I'm not going to look Dad in the eye when he's spinning at me just because i haven't gotten a Fixation proc in a while

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But I totally will with Aphro's Aid

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SCREW YOU DAD

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Lol, the 2500 is a consolation prize for not using it the whole fight

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 4:19 PM

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I use the Greater Call when I haven't put poms on it because the Charm duration is so short otherwise.

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Unless I have Smoldering Air.

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 4:19 PM

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ive had it hit for 4k

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 4:19 PM

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Which I probably do have.

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:19 PM

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Yeah I was going to say; smoldering air with aphro call is what, guaranteed [halt] (albeit very temporary) in the proceedings, but you're never gonna get the damage; whereas zeus call is guaranteed chip damage but it's up to you to dodge

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 4:20 PM

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But like... I've had individual attacks hit for 4k before too lol, and the Charm lets, for example, Excalibur do its thing freely

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Because relying on 15% weak apps to stun is a bit bonkers and only works with fast hitting weapons

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Aphro's Aid is nuts because they don't resume the attack after they fall out of the Charm, they walk around a bit then do another starting animation

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 4:21 PM

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I’m just gonna attempt 32 heat for the hell of it

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Which by that time you probably have another Charm up with Smoldering Air

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 4:21 PM

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You get free i-frames every 5 seconds either way lol.

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Maybe with that hermes buff @cunning urchin

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 4:22 PM

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The good ol' Artemis' Call + Smoldering Air combo

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 4:22 PM

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No.

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Call activation gives i-frames.

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 4:22 PM

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iframe generator

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Does it now? Surely cant be more than a crumb of i-frame

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 4:23 PM

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If there is anything that proves Smoldering Air is busted, it's that we're rolling our eyes and saying that free invincibility every 5 seconds isn't worth your time to get

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It's a dash's worth

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basically

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 4:23 PM

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Nah, it's quite a lot of i-frames. Probably more than Dash i-frames? At least around as much, anyway.

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 4:23 PM

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You can also buffer dash + call

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For hairy stuff like making sure you don't get rekt by Asterius spin if you get caught in the middle

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:24 PM

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also
I rescind everything I've said previous about Thesaurus and Austerity fight. I realized I'm taking more hits because my man's arm-cannons now shoot across the length of the entire arena, and he makes a more conceited effort to drive towards me as opposed to kinda doing wheelies off in the corner as Asterius and I duke it out

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 4:25 PM

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conceited effort
@silk anvil You meant "concerted" effort but this was very appropriate considering Theseus lol.

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:25 PM

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That's the word, aye @hearty elbow

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 4:26 PM

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You're not wrong though, he makes a lot of conceited efforts

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:26 PM

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But given that its Theseus, I stand by conceited

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 4:26 PM

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He has a gloat phase

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So sick

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Hes basically a WWE fighter, he knows how to cater to the crowd

thankfully our trusty faithful shade will always have our backs <3

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Where was the shade when I did at 56 Heat, huh?

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Didn't have my back. squirtooh

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Stepped out for a quick bathroom break is my guess; or had to go get some red-colored soda to stay hydrated in single-handedly cheering louder than all the other shades combined @cunning urchin

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Ultimately, what I'm trying to say is, they were there in spirit

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Yeah, you know who was also there in spirit?

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Not Zagreus because his spirit left his body when he died. squirtooh

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Why is a cow shooting a crying shade?

gilded nymph Oct 8, 2020, 4:36 PM

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what is the generic chrion aspect build?

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just aphro/artemis special

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and hammers?

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Heartbreak Strike, Deadly Flourish, Heart Rend.

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Vice versa works, too.

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Hammers just basically anything for Special.

gilded nymph Oct 8, 2020, 4:38 PM

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ok thanks

stuck bobcat Oct 8, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Any quick ideas for noob faceroll build with low blood investment for aspects? xD
Facerolling with Lightining Cloud Hera Bow starts to get boooooring (10 runs in row -.-')

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 4:41 PM

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You could do the same with Poseidon Aspect. zaglol

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Variety!

gritty plover Oct 8, 2020, 4:42 PM

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how noob are we talking about?

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Face rolling eh? This is a new term to me

gritty plover Oct 8, 2020, 4:42 PM

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i run ||guan yu with quick spin and athena attack||

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cheesy as heck

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 4:43 PM

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spoilers are allowed here btw

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thats what it says above anyways

gritty plover Oct 8, 2020, 4:43 PM

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yep, but i tagged it as spoiler anyways, he said he was new

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 4:43 PM

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ah k

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im new too but i dont care at all about spoilers

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more or less new

dark quail Oct 8, 2020, 4:44 PM

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What's the best build for farming darkness and gems?

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 4:44 PM

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take the darkness weapon?

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and profit?

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:44 PM

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-Darkness weapon
-Poseidon's bounty >:c

play the rest of the game as you want

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 4:44 PM

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ah yea that

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Ty for reminding me about the darkness weapon @limber flax

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Also chaos boons that boos darkness

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Boost

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 4:46 PM

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ok yea i still dont like the guan Xp

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 4:46 PM

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i should probably just always play the darknewss/gem weapon

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since i like all weapons

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🍴

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 4:47 PM

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the spin feels too slow to go off, and the healing so minimal

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:47 PM

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@thorny basin you need hammer upgrades to increase spin charge speed; otherwise, the real power of GY is in the special spam

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Wait... I can never remember... but I think Hermes attack speed also boosts spin charge speed ?

gritty plover Oct 8, 2020, 4:48 PM

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trust me, gy + quick spin + massive spin

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i don't think it helps charge speed, but it helps the damage ticks in the spin

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 4:49 PM

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yea ive been going for hammers whenever i see them but i have had 0 luck

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 4:49 PM

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its hard to take. 12 hammer ups. in best situation you can see only 6 from 12.

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Ah, so you still get some heal benefits from it

gilded nymph Oct 8, 2020, 4:50 PM

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i wish you could reroll hammers

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:/

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:50 PM

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There werent always 12 hammer upgrades for spear, was there?

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Like, I swear I'd never seen the "longer flight" for the spear spin before

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 4:51 PM

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That's a Guan Yu exclusive.

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 4:51 PM

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on what weapon are hammer upgrades most essential and on what weapon the least

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 4:51 PM

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and i died to some stunlocking skeletons in apshodel that stunlocked me on top of lava

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<.<

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Hammers don't really matter on Poseidon Aspect, and not as much on Hera.

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 4:52 PM

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uh what weapon was poseidon aspect

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sword?

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Yes.

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 4:52 PM

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its confusing to me that first aspect is always zagreus and the rest of the names are unique

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 4:54 PM

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There werent always 12 hammer upgrades for spear, was there?
@silk anvil My mistake. its 9 hammer ups for GY. you can see in best situation 6. and Winged Serpent have better chance to be.becaus Exclusive.

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 4:54 PM

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does every weapon have same amount of hammer upgrades

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and do aspects have unique hammer upgrades

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 4:55 PM

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nope. some of hammers ups Incompatible with to aspects.

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 4:55 PM

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well I almost beat 32 heat it was way easier than I thought

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 4:55 PM

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just dont get hit

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:55 PM

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@limber flax Petition to rename them to the following:
-speed zag
-special zag
-meh zag
-wacky weird zag

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 4:55 PM

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🤔

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:56 PM

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well I almost beat 32 heat it was way easier than I thought
@solid cairn congrats yo, what was your build / pacts?

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 4:56 PM

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I didn’t even have smoldering air I was just chilling with aphro attack

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 4:57 PM

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I didn’t even have smoldering air I was just chilling with aphro attack
@solid cairn show to us

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Can’t school lunch break is over

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I’ll show when I win

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I lost 2 DD to em3

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I am not used to that version of the fight at all

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:58 PM

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So legit, playing hades in spare time noice

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I wish I trusted myself to be any good at the switch version of the game thanthink

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 4:59 PM

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That spin catches me off guard I keep thinking it’s gonna end before it does

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 5:00 PM

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What's spare time? squirtooh

gilded nymph Oct 8, 2020, 5:01 PM

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hades spin?

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 5:01 PM

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@cunning urchin special hermes boon some people manage to get, I hear

gilded nymph Oct 8, 2020, 5:01 PM

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just go in a 0 heat run with arthur and really high hp and damage reduction

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and practice dodging hades

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Also I could only get common attack speed

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Hangover chaos shield is lit

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Low tolerance, curse of nausea

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 5:02 PM

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better do poseidon + zeus probably.

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 5:02 PM

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And a nice aphro dash, ares attack, curse of longing

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Best way to practice the Hades fight is to backup your temp save when you enter the fight.

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Em3 is tough but it’s pretty fun

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Best way to practice the Hades fight is to backup your temp save when you enter the fight.
@cunning urchin GREAT IDEA. i just go all run again and again!

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:03 PM

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I haven’t even attempted EM4

gritty plover Oct 8, 2020, 5:04 PM

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i find EM3 to be funnier than it is harder

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 5:04 PM

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EM4 is extremely hard

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Best way to practice the Hades fight is to backup your temp save when you enter the fight.
@cunning urchin i wana kiss you for this and Hug realy.jesus. so simple

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:04 PM

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It feels like a more complete fight

gritty plover Oct 8, 2020, 5:04 PM

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the dialogue for the first time is stellar

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Then overwrite the perma save in slot 2 or whatever with the temp save. Load that save. If you die in the fight, just "Give Up", then when you load the save, you can do the fight again.

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 5:04 PM

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I’ve won 2 runs out of my 5 or maybe 6 attempts at EM4

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:04 PM

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After I do arthur 32 heat I may try guan yu

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Guan yu so bad

gritty plover Oct 8, 2020, 5:05 PM

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guan yu essentially makes you immortal

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 5:05 PM

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I hate it

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Guan yu so bad
Blasphemy

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The regen isn’t even the good part

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 5:05 PM

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@unkempt zephyr that's how I practiced the fight for 3+ hours every day before I tried (and won) 52 Heat.

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:05 PM

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You basically start with explosive launcher

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 5:05 PM

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You can do the same thing with other boss fights.

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 5:05 PM

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i just do full runs to practice befor.

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Ideally, you want to do it with a weak build.

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 5:06 PM

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I never understand what’s so good about guan yu

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:06 PM

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The special

dark quail Oct 8, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Arthur is the most fun weapon so far, the swings are just satisfying

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 5:06 PM

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That way, you'll be ready even when you don't have a good build.

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:06 PM

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The spin

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 5:06 PM

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The hp reduction is...

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Very bad

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 5:06 PM

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After I do arthur 32 heat I may try guan yu
@solid cairn im almost do totay.so sad about this. im mistake so hard in end.....https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/758485427723698186/763793282064056320/unknown.png

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:06 PM

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The amount of safety you have with Athena attack

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Do y’all just not attack with guan yu?

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 5:07 PM

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The Special and the Dash-Strike base damage. Spin is secondary.

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 5:07 PM

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It’s so slow

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:07 PM

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The attack is bad

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 5:07 PM

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is it just me or do all the posidon knockback boons suck?

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Dash strike on guan yu does how much?

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is it just me or do all the posidon knockback boons suck?
@thorny basin I hate taking Poseidon boons

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Unless in specific builds and weapons

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Like Chiron sea storm

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Poseidon has the best call in the game

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 5:07 PM

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I curse the gods whenever I see Poseidon in my runs

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 5:07 PM

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is it just me or do all the posidon knockback boons suck?
@thorny basin They insane.With slam boons (insane base damage and insane scaling)

dark quail Oct 8, 2020, 5:08 PM

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So chaos boon and poseidon boon are the way to go for farming darkness and gems?

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Poseidon’s cast is amazing too. Has a lot of duo boons

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Blizzard shot, curse of drowning

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Tempest Flourish is actually really good. Second-highest +% special.

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 5:08 PM

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So chaos boon and poseidon boon are the way to go for farming darkness and gems?
@dark quail ur best bet at doing that is just probably playing weapons with dark thirst

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Tidal Dash is a build in itself.

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:08 PM

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And it also has huge aoe while also sticking into enemies so poseidon sword works really well with it

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And you get a head start on mirage shot

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Poseidon bad

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Don’t care

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 5:09 PM

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@cunning urchin I watched most of that 32 tidal dash run and can only say they got mighty lucky with those dodges 👀

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 5:09 PM

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There are two 32 Heat clears with Tidal Dash only already lol.

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In 1.0.

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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There are two 32 Heat clears with Tidal Dash only already lol.
@cunning urchin claws and reflex?

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Didn’t haelian do one

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Eris uses tidal dash sea storm in the any heat WR

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So does poseidon sword speedruns

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It’s still good in standard runs

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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I had Tidal Dash for 52, too.

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Though you have to give up Athena dash

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Poseidon sword uses tidal dash? thanthink
I can't imagine why, considering you wont knock your cats out if everyone keeps flying away from you ;-;

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Just chase

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 5:11 PM

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They'll drop their casts if they're dead lol.

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:11 PM

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^

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Although idk if I would recommend that on poseidon sword in a non speedrun situation

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 5:12 PM

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@unkempt zephyr most recent was with Fists 4. I don't know their mirror setup.

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:13 PM

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I wish there was a well item that gave you increased attack speed for a certain amount of encounters

gilded nymph Oct 8, 2020, 5:14 PM

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it feels so bad to take a common boon over 2 duo boons

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 5:15 PM

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@unkempt zephyr most recent was with Fists 4. I don't know their mirror setup.
@cunning urchin 4th one have base 3 dashes. form my opinion the must have Ruthless Reflex in mirror. i can not find any reason to do not take it.

gilded nymph Oct 8, 2020, 5:15 PM

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this guan yu build is so crazy

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430 damage per special

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:15 PM

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this guy gets it

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but it can go higher

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you got charged skewer?

gilded nymph Oct 8, 2020, 5:15 PM

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then the special ruptures, jolts, chains lightning, knockbacks

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yup

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I have charged skewer and bonus damage against armor

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:16 PM

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why zeus special

gilded nymph Oct 8, 2020, 5:16 PM

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pos special

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zeus attack

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:16 PM

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oh lol

gilded nymph Oct 8, 2020, 5:16 PM

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then just duos and boons

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I got the duo boon with pos and zeus

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:16 PM

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I saw poseidon GY on a haelian vid a while ago

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Special chains lightning? Bruh what? Or saying the thunderbolt on it?

gilded nymph Oct 8, 2020, 5:17 PM

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I have the duo boon sea storm

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 5:17 PM

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Yeah sounds pretty sick nasty. Probably smarter than just going for art crit on special

gilded nymph Oct 8, 2020, 5:17 PM

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so I chuck a spear, it jolts, ruptures, procs priveleged status, knockbacks

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:17 PM

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Yeah sounds pretty sick nasty. Probably smarter than just going for art crit on special
not really

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it requires far more investment

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but it does work

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Shh, I'm still mad that my artemis GY didnt pan out because daed never game me charged throw @solid cairn

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 5:19 PM

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for zeus can deal good AoE you wana High Voltage.if you play sea storm with poseidon same situation. but better to have Poseidon second wave than Zeus legendary. becaus its not small ball of ligthing go. its triger sea storm again.and triger all slam boons again.

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Even if I have to build more into it, its essentially guaranteed rather than relying on RNGesus

gilded nymph Oct 8, 2020, 5:19 PM

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HOLY

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I got second wave

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GWseremePeepoGGERS

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:19 PM

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wait

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deadly reversal on GY

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you take athena attack so the spin deflects, which is already great on its own

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then artemis special

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so you have prereq for DR

gilded nymph Oct 8, 2020, 5:20 PM

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why use gy with that

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:20 PM

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wdym

gilded nymph Oct 8, 2020, 5:20 PM

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just use other spears

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:20 PM

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spin with athena is busted

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uhh no GY special is way better

gilded nymph Oct 8, 2020, 5:20 PM

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is it?

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I've never tried GY spin builds

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:20 PM

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let me explain

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so athena on spin basically makes the entire hitbox of the spin deflect

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so you can hide behind it for example

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 5:21 PM

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so athena on spin basically makes the entire hitbox of the spin deflect
@solid cairn like athena zeus shield special.

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:21 PM

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if you get deadly reversal, you can hit them with the athena spin for increased crit on your special

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and you can alternatively get athena dash so you don't even have to spin

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it's pretty great

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if you want even more power you can grab aphro cast or something and heart rend

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 5:24 PM

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ok aphro on attack feels lowkey broken

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:24 PM

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ok now I want to try deadly reversal + heart rend guan yu

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 5:24 PM

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legit face tanking theseus

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using gilgamesh

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Tempest Flourish and Deadly Flourish are about equal in DPS.

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:25 PM

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classsic AAA

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Artemis Aphro Athena

gilded nymph Oct 8, 2020, 5:29 PM

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I posted the build in #h1-victory-boasting

forest scaffold Oct 8, 2020, 5:38 PM

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I dont really get how im meant to do well with a Dionysus run

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hangover even at epic with a fairly high rank just doesnt really seem to bring enough damage?

gilded nymph Oct 8, 2020, 5:38 PM

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GWseremePeepoF

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you haven't done a cast build with dio then

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the point of dio is bonus damage + the bonus effects he has with festive fog

forest scaffold Oct 8, 2020, 5:40 PM

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nah i wanted to do an attack build with him, i generally dont enjoy cast builds that much

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also I've not been offered a ffestive fog at any point this run

gilded nymph Oct 8, 2020, 5:40 PM

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then try eris aspect with dio

forest scaffold Oct 8, 2020, 5:41 PM

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im currently using the exogryph in its basic form fully upgrade

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Dio need poms.You main source of dio hangover need poms.

forest scaffold Oct 8, 2020, 5:43 PM

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yeah i've gotten a fair few - its epic level 5 at the moment - but it doesnt really seem to kill things quick enough, and the hangover falls off so fast :/ if I could get teh one that spreads it it may be less painful but so far this isnt a fun run

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 5:45 PM

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for spreed you need hammer(AoE attack) or (piersing enemy and +50% armor upgrade). Or special boon called Peer Pressure

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and need some Duo combo. with ares ,artemis,aphro

viral rivet Oct 8, 2020, 5:46 PM

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hi, what do you think is the best cast for a poseidon sword build ?

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 5:47 PM

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aphro attack feels lowkey busted

viral rivet Oct 8, 2020, 5:47 PM

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i'm doing a run with the artemis one atm and it's doing hard crits but i was wondering if they are better

gilded nymph Oct 8, 2020, 5:47 PM

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what is the highest damage call?

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hi, what do you think is the best cast for a poseidon sword build ?
I like artemis the most

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Artemis with some artemis boons and Duos.

viral rivet Oct 8, 2020, 5:48 PM

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yeah i'm running artemis right now and the damage as high af

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but my favorite cast in the game is the athena one so far , it is good with this sword ?

forest scaffold Oct 8, 2020, 5:49 PM

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just out of curiosity why? its my least favourite lol

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well second

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 5:50 PM

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what is the highest damage call?
@gilded nymph DIonysus, by an extremely large margin

viral rivet Oct 8, 2020, 5:50 PM

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i like the aoe damage and the counter projectile thing

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 5:50 PM

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its pref in cast when you not in cast build. for melee its for me its 2 options. Dio cast(insane crown control) or poseidon cast. becaus its can do damage with out poms. need some slam boon to melt enemy.

solid cairn Oct 8, 2020, 5:52 PM

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hi, what do you think is the best cast for a poseidon sword build ?
@viral rivet I like poseidon and crush shot

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poseidon cast

heady relic Oct 8, 2020, 5:54 PM

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With the chaos shield, does the hammer upgrade to explode on catching work for all the shields or just one? The graphic is gone so quick I honestly can't tell

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 5:54 PM

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and for non cast weapon pref Stygian soul. to do not go in danger place.Be more handle.have opportunity to have second debuff from cast to Privileged Status. becaus status 4 sec.CD on SS only 3 second for cast.

gilded nymph Oct 8, 2020, 5:55 PM

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getting 2 hammers and no bonus arrows for chiron makes me sad

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 5:55 PM

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I used to do that @unkempt zephyr, for a long time, with non-cast builds, but I started using Infernal more, just because it's a lot smoother to play to always have a cast up if you're chaining enemies. Also in case you get Lightning Rod or Ravenous Will, Infernal Soul is a lot better

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I think the big difference for me was with Phalanx Shot, so I could reliably have it up to deflect multiple projectiles.

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Or to approach melee enemies safely

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 5:59 PM

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I used to do that @unkempt zephyr, for a long time, with non-cast builds, but I started using Infernal more, just because it's a lot smoother to play to always have a cast up if you're chaining enemies. Also in case you get Lightning Rod or Ravenous Will, Infernal Soul is a lot better
@hearty elbow But its my pref for NON cast build.my choose on pact say me " dont take any damage.be save.dont run for blood shard.take easy" 🤣

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Yeah, it's definitely a preference, but they return to you eventually, and it's not too bad to pick them up incidentally.

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Lightning Rod being kind of free and good now definitely pushed me towards always taking it

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Yeah, it's definitely a preference, but they return to you eventually, and it's not too bad to pick them up incidentally.
@hearty elbow and becaus i wana Boiling Blood in my main targets to melee weapon

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:01 PM

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But especially with melee your target dies and it's very easy to pick it up from there.

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 6:03 PM

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yup. but for me its dif.becaus i dancing around to do not take damage.i kill enemy in max range of my melee weapon and switching time to time to another target if danger comes around my main target.

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Yeah, I don't see much of a difference either way. The positive interactions with Lightning Rod and Ravenous Will were enough for me though.

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 6:04 PM

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or my target just teleporting)

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Yeah, I don't see much of a difference either way. The positive interactions with Lightning Rod and Ravenous Will were enough for me though.
@hearty elbow yup.Its just pref. but i just cant wait Lightning Rod do damage.and pick up not for me. i understand this on 0.27 game version)

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Yeah, it's not like super significant but it does great work at freely kill squishy enemies off screen, and by the time I usually get Lightning Rod, Boiling Blood isn't really that relevant anymore

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Also Dad's skulls

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 6:08 PM

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whats makes every go crazy over the chaos shield? doesnt seem that great to me

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:08 PM

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This is with Rail, where you virtually always end up qualifying for Lightning Rod because of Lightning Strike + Support Fire lol

quasi folio Oct 8, 2020, 6:08 PM

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favorite gods for the shield toss aspect?

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:08 PM

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whats makes every go crazy over the chaos shield? doesnt seem that great to me
@thorny basin It was nerfed significantly

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So nothing now

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Ravenous Will not enough for me. Im realy not so many use demeter.but SS have more sustain damage on bosses.

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try this for low heat.

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 6:09 PM

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fair

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XD

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:09 PM

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It's still probably the best defensive aspect

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 6:09 PM

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/dnvsxnw37fz38mr/Chaos pos%2Bzeus..mp4?dl=0

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Chaos pos+zeus..mp4

Shared with Dropbox

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:09 PM

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It just isn't also the best AoE aspect lol

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 6:10 PM

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if you find radius for zeus. its pretty hard.

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not best but still good.

brisk island Oct 8, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Inserting internal screaming pain
https://imgur.com/a/329AFqt - Amazingly wasted 450 gold. Athena's Pool isn't exhausted by the way, seems no defiances for me. shadedisgruntled

Imgur

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Is this in Styx?

brisk island Oct 8, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Yep.

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Epic Sure Footing is phenomenal in Styx

brisk island Oct 8, 2020, 6:13 PM

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When modifier on traps is enabled... though it is disabled for now.

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 6:13 PM

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i probably dont go in High heat Em4 with out Sure footing 🤣

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:13 PM

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With Heightened Security it makes Dad's urns do 15 damage. Also the styx traps are a bit easier to accidentally bump into than the other biomes

mighty ermine Oct 8, 2020, 6:14 PM

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yeah, sure footing is worth it alone for HS dad urns if you don't need anything else super badly

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Sure Footing kind of counter intuitively applies multiplicatively lol, it would exceptionally bad if it was additive to the HS bonus lmao

mighty ermine Oct 8, 2020, 6:15 PM

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lol yeah, i used to never take it because i assumed it wouldn't make any dent in HS

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:15 PM

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(which is what I thought for the longest time)

brisk island Oct 8, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Exchange offers so annoying thanthink
Only one good reason to take them, get Heroic boon & protect this slot from further exchanges.

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 6:16 PM

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wow dusa companion does a ton of damage

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Yeah they buffed her a lot in 1.0, duration +15 seconds I think

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 6:16 PM

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30 seconds, 70 damage per bolt shooting 5 or 6 at a time

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Well, her pattern varies

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To be fair

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And it's very bad against terrain

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 6:17 PM

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yea but still

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:17 PM

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You take Dusa for her stuns, but the damage is nicer now. I like her against EM2, she makes the last phase extremely smooth

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 6:17 PM

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I might start looking into using Infernal Soul over Stygian Soul just for the potential when I run into an accidental cast build.

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:18 PM

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I might start looking into using Infernal Soul over Stygian Soul just for the potential when I run into an accidental cast build.
@cunning urchin I do this fairly frequently on Eris lol. If I have a value Flood Shot and get epic Rupture I'm like "I guess this is my life now"

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 6:18 PM

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which keepsake should i level next? wish i could send a picture here to make it easier

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Stygian cast builds are kinda bad without extra ammo.

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@thorny basin all of them.

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Lol, that question is very hard to answer XD

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 6:19 PM

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i know Xp

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Just pick whichever.

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 6:19 PM

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ive got all of the god boon selection keepsakes done except demeter

cunning urchin Oct 8, 2020, 6:19 PM

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You'll get important experience with all the keepsakes that way.

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:20 PM

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The highest priorities are Acorn > God Keepsakes > Coinpurse > Bone Hourglass > Broken Spearpoint

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 6:20 PM

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im prolly gonna get exiled for this, but i dont see the appear for the acorn

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except for redacted most of them use lots of small hits

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Coinpurse might be higher actually, since the major appeal of the God keepsakes is guaranteeing the God, not the rarity buff

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 6:21 PM

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appeal*

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Compare Lucky Tooth to Acorn. Lucky Tooth is a little more than 100 health (since you can count the overkill damage on your last DD). With no Hard Labor, Dad's spins do 40 I think? 80 with his Boiling Blood? So assuming that you tank only 2 of the spins and 3 nonsense hits, you've probably already done better value than Lucky Tooth

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With no Hard Labor. Once you take that pact it's WAY better

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Than any other defensive option

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 6:23 PM

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meant for everyone excvept redacted

main osprey Oct 8, 2020, 6:24 PM

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the advantage that lucky tooth has is similar to the SD vs DD thing--where do you tend to choke? during a boss fight, or over time?

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Oh, I mean, for EM3, Asterius hits like a truck, it's often difficult to dodge his charges reactively with FO2, so you can just get hit and it's all good in the hood

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One hit and it's enough value, even if the other 4 hits are Theseus bullets

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 6:24 PM

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fair

main osprey Oct 8, 2020, 6:25 PM

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I'll frequently take the Spearpoint into Styx, because I'm more worried about being drained by poison than I am getting hit by Redacted

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:25 PM

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The one exception is if you enter a biome with 0 DDs and some health lost, you may want to take Lucky Tooth to make sure you even have a shot at the boss

spiral tree Oct 8, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Can someone explain what makes Demeter fists the best? 12 attacks seem like a lot

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:26 PM

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It's not. And you get a delete button for thicker or problematic enemies

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 6:26 PM

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not really

brisk island Oct 8, 2020, 6:27 PM

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shadedisgruntled ugh aspect of beowulf still slow af uncompetent shield with cool design.

main osprey Oct 8, 2020, 6:27 PM

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12 attacks is a few seconds, depending on your playstyle

hearty elbow Oct 8, 2020, 6:27 PM

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The upside becomes insane if you get Explosive Upper, in which case your delete button becomes a local uninstall for enemies around you.

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Crit is calculated per hit on enemy, so Deadly Flourish has extremely consistent damage with the Demeter proc too. Doubly moreso with Explosive Upper

jade rover Oct 8, 2020, 6:37 PM

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For Hades aspect, would you take Divine strike or Flourish?

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I'm thinking flourish for backstab on return? Don't really play much spear

spiral tree Oct 8, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Is there a channel for hades gifs?

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Like seeing insane damage or some cool stuff like that

main osprey Oct 8, 2020, 6:39 PM

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#self-promotion maybe?

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you can share imgur (or similar) links here if it's something specific

jade rover Oct 8, 2020, 6:41 PM

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just got merciful end on chamber 8...

plain violet Oct 8, 2020, 6:41 PM

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any tips on using the 4th sword aspect?

jade rover Oct 8, 2020, 6:42 PM

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damage reduction is king, dio's good for that. Also Athena.

random light Oct 8, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Yo is someone doubting the wonders of Demeter Fists

jagged roost Oct 8, 2020, 6:42 PM

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anybody got cool arthur builds?

random light Oct 8, 2020, 6:42 PM

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anybody got cool arthur builds?
@jagged roost Artemis on Attack

jagged roost Oct 8, 2020, 6:42 PM

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I am doubting it 😄

random light Oct 8, 2020, 6:42 PM

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vile

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How dare

jagged roost Oct 8, 2020, 6:43 PM

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the two fists i see are strong are gligamesh and talos

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dont know about demeter

random light Oct 8, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Demeter Fists is very strong

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It takes some investment but it’s a monster of a weapon

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 6:43 PM

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im sure this is a normal opnion but i hate the elysium enemies with a passion

jagged roost Oct 8, 2020, 6:44 PM

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i gotta have points in it for it to be strong?

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im sure this is a normal opnion but i hate the elysium enemies with a passion
@thorny basin personally shield wielders

sharp anvil Oct 8, 2020, 6:44 PM

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First time using Arthur, I got a 4950 crit amsweat

plain violet Oct 8, 2020, 6:45 PM

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shield enemies are annoying 9/10 times unless you have some sort of penetration for me

jagged roost Oct 8, 2020, 6:45 PM

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man what numbers are huge with arthur

random light Oct 8, 2020, 6:45 PM

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i gotta have points in it for it to be strong?
From level 3 onwards I’d say Demeter is stronger than Gilgamesh or Talos

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Also the mini chariots in Elysium are the bane of my existence

jagged roost Oct 8, 2020, 6:45 PM

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oh yeah those guys too

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id give demeter a try after my arthur run

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what special should i go for?

spare flare Oct 8, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Would you agree that Talos is better than Demeter out of the box?

jagged roost Oct 8, 2020, 6:46 PM

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i just like it cuz of an anime its dumb

sharp anvil Oct 8, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Go for Athena special, Ares attack and do an ME build

jagged roost Oct 8, 2020, 6:46 PM

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ME?

sharp anvil Oct 8, 2020, 6:46 PM

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With Athena dash

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https://hades.gamepedia.com/Duo_Boons

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Merciful End

spare flare Oct 8, 2020, 6:47 PM

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I find that being able to draw my opponents in for a Heartbreak Uppercut from across the field, and also enhance further damage to them, is strong.

plain violet Oct 8, 2020, 6:47 PM

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plus they take more dmg after

sharp anvil Oct 8, 2020, 6:47 PM

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You hold down left click and double dash back and forth, proccing doom constantly

plain violet Oct 8, 2020, 6:47 PM

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is magnetic cutter just...better than maim?

jagged roost Oct 8, 2020, 6:47 PM

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oh yeah my luck with duos lately has been extremely sad

spiral tree Oct 8, 2020, 6:47 PM

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@jagged roost someone here put me on an OP Arthur build Athena attack is amazing with the aura as it slows down all attacks and your attack deflects them all back you get to play baseball lol and then art on special to get deadly reversal which basically makes all your attacks crit

sharp anvil Oct 8, 2020, 6:47 PM

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If you have it, use the +10% duo boons chance from mirror

jagged roost Oct 8, 2020, 6:47 PM

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no no Maim is too strong

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i mo

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@jagged roost someone here put me on an OP Arthur build Athena attack is amazing with the aura as it slows down all attacks and your attack deflects them all back you get to play baseball lol and then art on special to get deadly reversal which basically makes all your attacks crit
@spiral tree il try that out

pearl rain Oct 8, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Hello. I got gifted Hades today for my birthday and I'm in love with Zagreus.

spiral tree Oct 8, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Lol

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Yeah he’s a cool character

sharp anvil Oct 8, 2020, 6:51 PM

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I have a fun build for every weapon but the shield, Anyone have suggestions? (Other than Chaos aspect)

plain violet Oct 8, 2020, 6:52 PM

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zeus shield is kinda memey/hilarious

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especially if you put athena attack on the special

civic needle Oct 8, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Never tried but athena or poseidon sounds good for shield

plain violet Oct 8, 2020, 6:53 PM

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athena on zeus shield was just funny to watch

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plus I had +200% dmg in total from some chaos boon stacks

civic needle Oct 8, 2020, 6:54 PM

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Ares and shildthrow is also funny

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 6:54 PM

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i had a really fun run with crystal beam and zues shield with athena deflect

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died to the rat miniboss cause poison Xp

spare flare Oct 8, 2020, 6:55 PM

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Aegis of Zeus is good.

civic needle Oct 8, 2020, 6:56 PM

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Guys im new to Hades, is it only me or are the weapon upgrades with that hammer you can get OP?

spare flare Oct 8, 2020, 6:57 PM

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I used Drunken Strike, Curse of Agony, the talent for bonus damage on cursed targets, the duo boon that makes hangover tick more, and other stuff for an easy win.

civic needle Oct 8, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Seems OP imo

spare flare Oct 8, 2020, 6:57 PM

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There is no hammer . . .

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 6:57 PM

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You only get 2 hammers in a run

spare flare Oct 8, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Oh, Daedelus Hammers?

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Yeah

heady relic Oct 8, 2020, 6:57 PM

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How can I know which specials lodge the stone and which don't?

spare flare Oct 8, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Yeah, some of those upgrades are ridiculous.

civic needle Oct 8, 2020, 6:57 PM

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As I said I'm new and my game isn't even in english

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 6:58 PM

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I’ve had some runs where a hammer upgrade basically carried me

spare flare Oct 8, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Don't you have a language selector . . .?

random light Oct 8, 2020, 6:58 PM

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How can I know which specials lodge the stone and which don't?
@heady relic Aphrodite, Poseidon, Artemis, Athena, Zeus all stick

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Demeter, Dionysus, and Ares do not

spare flare Oct 8, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Grav, there's a list around here somewh- there.

heady relic Oct 8, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Thanks!

random light Oct 8, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Keep in mind though, that some Duos change those interactions

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If you get the Demeter/Poseidon Duo for instance, the Poseidon cast no longer sticks

civic needle Oct 8, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Yeah but I prefer my native language when playing a new game

random light Oct 8, 2020, 7:00 PM

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You only get 2 hammers in a run
You can technically get three upgrades with the Anvil, but whether it’ll be worth it is pure RNG. But yeah you only get two legit Hammers every run.

civic needle Oct 8, 2020, 7:01 PM

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I had that special upgrade for the gun that like completely carried me solo through the game, I feel like those upgrades are a bit overkill, but I'm only a beginner

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I would guess you guys here are experts, what's the best combination with the sword?

spare flare Oct 8, 2020, 7:03 PM

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You say that as though there's just one.

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There are, what, six different hammer upgrades that augment the special?

civic needle Oct 8, 2020, 7:04 PM

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The big boom upgrade the one that can make you DMG yourself

spare flare Oct 8, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Hazard Bomb.

civic needle Oct 8, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Probably

plain violet Oct 8, 2020, 7:11 PM

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razor shoals or breaking wave?

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I lean towards shoals first

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then wave if it comes up again

main osprey Oct 8, 2020, 7:11 PM

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ye

spare flare Oct 8, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Agreed.

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 7:14 PM

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@spare flare check Private Message.

spare flare Oct 8, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Mm-hmm.

jagged roost Oct 8, 2020, 7:20 PM

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its unbelieveable

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how much damage u can put out with arthur aspect

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guys what is that iv never finished the bull this fast my god

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 7:21 PM

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my cap was last time be 8k crit last hit in back

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that my record on non armored target.

jagged roost Oct 8, 2020, 7:22 PM

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i have got to 5k

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i need more damage buffs

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but with hades call im pretty sure i can break that cap

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Arthur has 200 base damage on it's third swing

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 7:23 PM

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i thing its can reach 10k. if epic boons and some pom in backstab,attack and crit damage.

thorny basin Oct 8, 2020, 7:23 PM

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so any damage multiplier and crits go off that for that 3rd swing

jagged roost Oct 8, 2020, 7:24 PM

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big damage

solid portal Oct 8, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Hangover ALL the things lol

plain violet Oct 8, 2020, 7:32 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/XVLw00o made my own damage reduction, probably highest hp I've ever had lol

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Well that was a run

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now I just have to beat hades with 4th shield aspect and I'll have cleared with every weapon at least once, still not sure how I'm gonna do 32 heat though

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thanthink

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 7:36 PM

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try start with +20% speed -50% healing and 40% charon price.

plain violet Oct 8, 2020, 7:37 PM

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I can try, max I've done so far is 16

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 7:38 PM

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it will prepare you very well to do 32 if you star do any run with this.

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more accuracy. Develops reaction and teaches how to spend money.

jagged roost Oct 8, 2020, 7:42 PM

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the arthur run i just did was 20 mins

livid comet Oct 8, 2020, 7:42 PM

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noice!

jagged roost Oct 8, 2020, 7:42 PM

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i killed Asterius while he was calling for aid xD

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 7:44 PM

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you just need feel difference. but try go every run with 20speed,-50% healing and +40 price.after you do 3-4 runs come back to say how it feels.

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:11 PM

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tfw i had a shield run with athena attack and dash and lost

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i think i play too agressive

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 8:12 PM

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I find hangover build on shield extremely fun

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Especially with the duos

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Curse of nausea, low tolerance

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Any good guan yu build?

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Am I not suppose to use normal combo?

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The combo seems way too slow

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:16 PM

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With gy either spin or special

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Also faster spin is good on gy

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 8:17 PM

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combo on GY have same mechanic as artur. if you know how use one of them. you know how to use both.

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:17 PM

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As well as charged special I think

turbid needle Oct 8, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Hey everyone, is there some sort of hidden condition to get Chaos' legendary boon?

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 8:18 PM

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try cancel all special,attack,and dash strikes on GY. its help you survive alote.

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:18 PM

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I think have a chaos boon before hand

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 8:18 PM

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combo on GY have same mechanic as artur. if you know how use one of them. you know how to use both.
@unkempt zephyr so basically spam attack while dashing in between

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Also you just need to get lucky

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 8:18 PM

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@unkempt zephyr so basically spam attack while dashing in between
@onyx parcel That good too.

turbid needle Oct 8, 2020, 8:18 PM

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It's about the fifth time that I get to him, with the mirror perk of +10% chance to get legendary boons, their egg and sometimes even a bonus of boon rarity, rerolling twice or thrice at that point (and yes making sure that I already had boon of theirs at that point, checking in the codex), and nothing

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:19 PM

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You’re just unlucky then

turbid needle Oct 8, 2020, 8:19 PM

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It's the last thing I need for their prophecy, and in over 100 runs I never stumbled upon it, even when putting all the odds on my side

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Guess so

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Just feels weird

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Maybe the Ariadne yarn will help

turbid needle Oct 8, 2020, 8:19 PM

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When I get other legendary or duo boons kinda easily

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Does cosmic egg increase rarity?

turbid needle Oct 8, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Supposedly so yes

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 8:20 PM

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You need ONE chaos boon to you can find Legendary from chaos.

turbid needle Oct 8, 2020, 8:20 PM

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As I said, I'm always making sure I do have one for that

covert hatch Oct 8, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Question: what would y'all say the weapon with the highest DPS would be? Pre-boons/hammers

cloud barn Oct 8, 2020, 8:21 PM

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If including aspects it’s def shield

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:21 PM

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I mean, eris or Chiron so I’ve heard

cloud barn Oct 8, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Default Aspect

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:22 PM

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But don’t quote me on that

covert hatch Oct 8, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Including aspects, yeah

cloud barn Oct 8, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Ok then, default shield max level

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When used optimally

covert hatch Oct 8, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Interesting

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Are you trying to beat the game with no boons?

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 8:23 PM

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High damage fron ONE hit its artur. its 8k + but its not a case.Becaus you can not do it all time. in same time another weapon on good player can do same damage. its all about how player use weapon and move set + build.

covert hatch Oct 8, 2020, 8:23 PM

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No, the question just came up in another server and I was honestly curious

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I would have thought something like Nemesis sword, personally

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:24 PM

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I mean, I think nemesis sword needs some boons before it gets really crazy

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 8:25 PM

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all weapons need some boons.but any weapon need head of player and knowledg.

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:25 PM

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epic trippy shot or epic drunken dash, trippy shot right?

willow fossil Oct 8, 2020, 8:25 PM

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So thoughts on hades keepsake?

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:26 PM

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Haven’t tried it yet

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:26 PM

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https://imgur.com/uPqkNz0

Imgur

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?

gritty torrent Oct 8, 2020, 8:26 PM

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what cast do you guys use for a poseidon aspect run?

cloud barn Oct 8, 2020, 8:26 PM

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Triple

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 8:26 PM

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https://imgur.com/uPqkNz0
@limber flax they’re all good

Imgur

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What aspect are u using

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:27 PM

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zagreus with one point invested only

cloud barn Oct 8, 2020, 8:27 PM

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They’re all good Triple bomb is the most good

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Personally I’d choose triple

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Triple probably

willow fossil Oct 8, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Triple bomb is just poggers

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:27 PM

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aight

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everyone decided

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👍

willow fossil Oct 8, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Or just run approval process for the luls

empty prairie Oct 8, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Triple bomb with hangover is fun.

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:28 PM

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^dam

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triple bomb is good

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indeed

leaden talon Oct 8, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Is there a tierlist for the gods for their boons

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Wot

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:28 PM

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chaber 8 , i have zeus atk , dionydis cast and triple shot

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Lmao i think they’re all good depending on build

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:29 PM

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could be good run

willow fossil Oct 8, 2020, 8:29 PM

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All gods are good depending on what you're trying to achieve

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Theres no "better god"

leaden talon Oct 8, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Whats the strat with the ice one

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:29 PM

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there a tier list on yt

willow fossil Oct 8, 2020, 8:29 PM

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It all depends on the build

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Guys

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Good guan yu boons?

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Athena attack maybe?

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Athena on attack for deflect spin

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Ye

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If you’re going a special build I think either aphro or arte on special

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:29 PM

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divine dash

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yesssssssss

willow fossil Oct 8, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Best dash in the game

leaden talon Oct 8, 2020, 8:30 PM

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What do you try to achieve with detemer boons

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 8:30 PM

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It chills

willow fossil Oct 8, 2020, 8:30 PM

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What weapon

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Are you using

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 8:30 PM

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That’s a status effect for ur priv status

willow fossil Oct 8, 2020, 8:30 PM

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And what aspect

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Makes it easier to dodge attacks

leaden talon Oct 8, 2020, 8:30 PM

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So its more for slowplau

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Play*

willow fossil Oct 8, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Generally

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You can get the 10 stack dmg and her legendafy

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For some dmg plays

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In some other cases

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:31 PM

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I mean, it works for fast weapons because of the boon that makes fully chilled enemies explode

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:31 PM

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https://imgur.com/iGi3iep

Imgur

leaden talon Oct 8, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Isnt it hard to get legendary boons tho

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:31 PM

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looks like a good run

willow fossil Oct 8, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Is rng

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Just have to meet the requirements

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:31 PM

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There’s a mirror of night talent later in the game that boosts chance by 10

willow fossil Oct 8, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Then pray to the fates

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And indecisive said

leaden talon Oct 8, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Is that better than the epic boons

willow fossil Oct 8, 2020, 8:32 PM

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If you're aiming for legendaries

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Yes

leaden talon Oct 8, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Risk/reward tho

willow fossil Oct 8, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Y e p

leaden talon Oct 8, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Isnt epic generally better

willow fossil Oct 8, 2020, 8:32 PM

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It is

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:32 PM

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It also makes duo boons more common

willow fossil Oct 8, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Yep

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Some of which have good synergy with some builds

leaden talon Oct 8, 2020, 8:33 PM

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So if youre given detemer boons while youre on epic mirror talent what do you look to do

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Like nemesis with aphro arte duo outputs high dps

leaden talon Oct 8, 2020, 8:33 PM

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I just feel like my runs with detemer kinda suck lol

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Then don’t take Demeter

leaden talon Oct 8, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Well if nothing else is offered

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Which keepsakes do you have

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God keepsakes help a lot with making a build

ornate remnant Oct 8, 2020, 8:34 PM

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what does using ||hades call|| again'st hades do?

leaden talon Oct 8, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Everything but ||persephone||

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:34 PM

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He reacts and it’s a bit funny

leaden talon Oct 8, 2020, 8:35 PM

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But in general i start every run with extra gold

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Why don’t you use the god keepsakes to get the boons you want then

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It makes getting a build up and running much easier

leaden talon Oct 8, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Oh

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U have a good point

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:36 PM

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It’s much better than some gold in the long run

leaden talon Oct 8, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Ah ok

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But that accumulates really quickly over the run

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Buddy, gold isn’t incredibly important imo

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:37 PM

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is artemis good on gun

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:37 PM

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It’s meh on gun

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Unless you’re talking about the support fire boon

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:37 PM

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after i get zeus atk

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is there anything i want on zeus much

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Jolted for status effect

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:37 PM

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for gun

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how do i get jolted

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Which gun you using

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:37 PM

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zagreus

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:38 PM

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That gun is alright

ornate remnant Oct 8, 2020, 8:38 PM

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I feel like cause eris exists there's no point in zag

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:38 PM

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I think most people consider hestia or eris better because of their respective gimmicks

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:38 PM

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i recently only unlocked aspects so

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Hestia for one shots and eris for big universal damage increase

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:39 PM

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my run is quite op rn

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first act

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zeus atk , athena dash , dionyis cast

ornate remnant Oct 8, 2020, 8:39 PM

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the extra ammo is nice

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:39 PM

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triple bomb

ornate remnant Oct 8, 2020, 8:39 PM

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but i feel like with eris just flat increasing damage any thing you wanna do with extra ammo would be better on eris anyway

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i'm probably wrong

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:40 PM

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after i got zeus atk now, i should probably take out zeus keepsake right ?

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after act 1

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:40 PM

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Yeah

ornate remnant Oct 8, 2020, 8:40 PM

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yeah it only guarantee's them to show up once

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:40 PM

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Get Athena keepsake for divine dash

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:40 PM

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i have divine dash

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hehe

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and dionysis cast

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i only lack special buff

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Nice if you have it already what do you have on special

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Do you have priveleged

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:41 PM

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huh

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what that

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:41 PM

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I guess you don’t

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:41 PM

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i guess

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i have triple bomb btw

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Aphro Demeter and Poseidon have the highest damage percent buffs

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Aphro is the highest of the three

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But Poseidon can knock stuff around

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Aphro Demeter and Poseidon have the highest damage percent buffs
@hazy slate Lie

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:42 PM

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I’m pretty sure they do

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 8:42 PM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P6oZ6i8zmY6s7PM_AkX_g6bjZ601iP_xi9CxzEpujJ4/edit

Google Docs

Pom & Rarity Scaling

Attack %

Common,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19
Heartbreak Strike,50%,70%,84%,93%,100%,105%,109%,113%,117%,121%,125%,129%,133%,137%,141%,145%,149%,153%,157%
Deadly Strike,20%,28%,33%,37%,41%,45%,49%,53%,57%,61%,65%,69%,73%,77%,81%,85%,89%,93%,97%
Divine Strike...

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:42 PM

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i passed over aphro special buff for different league

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Nope

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:42 PM

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RIP

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bc that was before triple shot and i thought i wont use special

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;(

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Huh

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I’m an idiot then

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:43 PM

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what then?

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Aphro>demeter and Athena>poseidon>artemis

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:44 PM

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what special buff am i looking for

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Aphro for raw damage

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 8:44 PM

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or it can be demeter with arctic blast.

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:44 PM

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i can get offered the same boon twice in a run?

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Yes

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:44 PM

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good

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same chance?

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is distant memory good on gun?

willow fossil Oct 8, 2020, 8:47 PM

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It does its job yeah

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As long as you keep your distance

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:47 PM

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I’m pretty sure the extra damage kicks in at the edge of the screen

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:52 PM

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oh

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i got static discharge

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thats what you want after getting zeus atk right?

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Ye I think so

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:55 PM

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https://imgur.com/udoOlVd

Imgur

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does 1 or 3 make more sense for dps?

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YOOOOOO

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https://imgur.com/UuEmLzz

Imgur

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!!!

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Why does anyone like guan yu

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 8:59 PM

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which??

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Special build on guan yu just feels like ur playing bow

marsh pumice Oct 8, 2020, 8:59 PM

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I love Spin attack on GY

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 9:00 PM

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you guys help me out here

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which duo

marsh pumice Oct 8, 2020, 9:00 PM

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2nd

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 9:00 PM

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okay

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whait

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second duo or second boon

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🤔

marsh pumice Oct 8, 2020, 9:00 PM

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2nd boon

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Cold fusion

untold vortex Oct 8, 2020, 9:00 PM

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What weapon are you using?

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 9:00 PM

#

k

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Take cold fusion for prophecy

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 9:01 PM

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gun

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Otherwise ur gonna have to take it eventually

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 9:01 PM

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OP run rn

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Just take it now

untold vortex Oct 8, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Cold fusion then

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 9:01 PM

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If it’s OP already then take cold fusion

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 9:01 PM

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okay okay

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Get that out of the way

marsh pumice Oct 8, 2020, 9:01 PM

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right now

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 9:01 PM

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but

marsh pumice Oct 8, 2020, 9:01 PM

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do it

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 9:01 PM

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the other is better you say?

untold vortex Oct 8, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Cold fusion is also just good

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 9:01 PM

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hmm

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so i should take cold fusion for prophecy?

untold vortex Oct 8, 2020, 9:02 PM

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bittieY

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 9:02 PM

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hmmmm

marsh pumice Oct 8, 2020, 9:02 PM

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you have static discharge, so fusion is very good

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 9:02 PM

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okay

untold vortex Oct 8, 2020, 9:03 PM

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Cold fusion can't appear if you don't have static discharge

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Does chill effect enemy attack soeed

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Speed

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Or is it move speed only

untold vortex Oct 8, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Both iirc

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 9:12 PM

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what boons go well with rama?

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also how does shared suffering work

willow fossil Oct 8, 2020, 9:15 PM

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You apply it to someone, then every time you dmg something else it will deal a percent of the dmg to the target marked

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Btw Wrist saw something interesting.Beo shield with Charge Shot became Hera bow with huge base attack damage ,AoE and fast charge time)))👍cast work absolutely same as on hera.

willow fossil Oct 8, 2020, 9:15 PM

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If you hit the target marked it will dela the same percent as extra dmg

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 9:21 PM

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https://imgur.com/sL0TSFm

Imgur

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opinions?

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i have triple bomb already

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since i have zeus attack , i assume 2 is bad

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so 1 or 3?

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 9:23 PM

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why not 2?

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 9:23 PM

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3 i think would be nice

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 9:23 PM

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to non stop dash attack.

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 9:24 PM

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cause zeus attack is better with more attack speed

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btw

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what does more accurate mean

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its already auto aim

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 9:24 PM

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its already auto aim
@limber flax Not KBM?

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 9:25 PM

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controller

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although im on pc lol

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maybe i shoudl try kbm

willow fossil Oct 8, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Mnk also has autoaim

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Or at least it feels like

empty prairie Oct 8, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Tfw you're not confident about your build but it turns out Hades just lets you through anyway. dusa

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Do all non projectile attacks count as nearby foe?

unkempt pagoda Oct 8, 2020, 9:53 PM

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should i do a random 50 heat run for the lolz

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so far my comfortable has been a nice 20

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 9:55 PM

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sure

forest locust Oct 8, 2020, 9:59 PM

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I meant. Whats best Chiron build :)?

unkempt pagoda Oct 8, 2020, 10:00 PM

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i go either demeter (for arctic blast) or dio on special, but i've heard good things about artemis special apparently

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the hammers you want are relentless volley and concentrated volley

forest locust Oct 8, 2020, 10:01 PM

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what attack?

unkempt pagoda Oct 8, 2020, 10:02 PM

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if you're running dio special, you want artemis, aphro, or ares attack to fish for their duo boon

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aphrodite would probably be best if you're using privileged status

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overall i just keep my attack free for any duo boon prerequisites, since i focus all attention purely on the special

empty prairie Oct 8, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Has anyone managed a 59 heat run yet?

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Best damage for hangover gives Artemis + apro. becaus its can be 12% crit chance from Duo Artemis+Dio.and 8 stucks from 5 its huge deal.Specialy with artemis mark boon+ Dio peer boon and Artemis Aid. aid grow up super fast and peer give AoE.Duo from aphro and Artemis nice too.

limber flax Oct 8, 2020, 10:08 PM

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yay i won the run

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4 hp left no death defiance oof

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that was intense

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 10:09 PM

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if you some how add Dio Legendary or ares to this.its be insane crits 500-1000+ damage from hangover tick every 0.35 s

sonic ledge Oct 8, 2020, 10:10 PM

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highest dps spear choice?

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or do they all average out in the end with most builds

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?

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 10:11 PM

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They all good.

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but not zag aspect.

sonic ledge Oct 8, 2020, 10:11 PM

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so don't use zag aspect? got it

silk anvil Oct 8, 2020, 10:12 PM

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I wonder if they'll ever nerf the teleporting mage in 1st floor; it's ability to attack right out of teleport is a bit bonkers, he always manages to clip me a few times

willow fossil Oct 8, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Tfw you're not confident about your build but it turns out Hades just lets you through anyway.
Lmfao, the exact same thing happened to me

heady relic Oct 8, 2020, 10:13 PM

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With abilities that buff you after using a call , such as Zues's Billow Strength, is this per call? What if you save up the entire call meter, is it longer??

mighty ermine Oct 8, 2020, 10:16 PM

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it's the same buff time period regardless of whether you use lesser or greater

desert ether Oct 8, 2020, 10:17 PM

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I really have troubles to beat Hades with sword and twin fists since I'm bad when I have to be close to my opponents ; what build would you recommend me to win at least 1 run with it ?

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 10:17 PM

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With abilities that buff you after using a call , such as Zues's Billow Strength, is this per call? What if you save up the entire call meter, is it longer??
@heady relic This work great with Zeus+aphro duo.

heady relic Oct 8, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Awesome thank you!

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 10:18 PM

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I really have troubles to beat Hades with sword and twin fists since I'm bad when I have to be close to my opponents ; what build would you recommend me to win at least 1 run with it ?
@desert ether What sword and what fists?

desert ether Oct 8, 2020, 10:18 PM

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I got nemesis aspect on sword, and the one that attract people with fists

limber pine Oct 8, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Fists: Ares Attack, Athena Special, Athena Dash, get Merciful End = ez win

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 10:19 PM

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I got nemesis aspect on sword, and the one that attract people with fists
@desert ether take. try take demeter attack.and abilyty from core.if special be aphro fine. and if call be artemis amazing.Artemis Call best choose to kill bosses.

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/758485427723698186/758493969683316796/unknown.png

desert ether Oct 8, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Okay thanks you both, imma trying this rn

cinder flower Oct 8, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Is there an aspect plus best build for aspect guide

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Its my choose for new player to easy handle hades on nemesis sword.demeter slow down bosses. aphro decrese damage on 30-50% or more.Artemis help with crits and damage.

slender solar Oct 8, 2020, 10:39 PM

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can critting a foe make it mark itself

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with the artemis boon

unkempt pagoda Oct 8, 2020, 10:40 PM

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nope, you need to have at least two foes for hunter’s mark to work

lapis matrix Oct 8, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Well, that's not exactly true

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You can get the mark to show up if you have the Demeter's and Aphrodite's duo boon

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If the Cast hits you

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Merciful end on chaos shield is OP

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Chaos shield is so good

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So many builds are good on it and u really just need explosive return to make it work well

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Underrated fr

smoky atlas Oct 8, 2020, 11:07 PM

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breaching cross vs rolling knuckle on demeter fist?

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🤔

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 11:08 PM

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whats rolling knuckle again?

smoky atlas Oct 8, 2020, 11:08 PM

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60% dashstrike dmg

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vs 900% armor dmg

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like, bosses dont have armor but armor foes tend to give me trouble i guess

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 11:08 PM

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i mean, if armored enemies are giving you more trouble then breaching

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rolling if you want more damage against bosses

smoky atlas Oct 8, 2020, 11:09 PM

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is concentrated knuckle good

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+5 base dmg per hit

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 11:10 PM

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i mean if youre planning on standing there on hitting them

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not entirely sure how consecutive hit works

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 11:14 PM

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i

+5 base dmg per hit
@smoky atlas damage added to base damage. its mean boon scail damage from this hamer upgrade too. i check this already.For Sure.

desert ether Oct 8, 2020, 11:19 PM

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@desert ether take. try take demeter attack.and abilyty from core.if special be aphro fine. and if call be artemis amazing.Artemis Call best choose to kill bosses.
@unkempt zephyr well, worked, ty

unkempt pagoda Oct 8, 2020, 11:20 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/187458596559257600/763903628212699156/Hades_89.png

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i may have made a mistake bouldy

cloud barn Oct 8, 2020, 11:21 PM

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oh dear

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 11:21 PM

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i don't see whats wrong

cloud barn Oct 8, 2020, 11:21 PM

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that's quite the low max hp

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 11:21 PM

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60 hours in the game and I’m kind of burnt out I’m not gonna lie

unkempt pagoda Oct 8, 2020, 11:21 PM

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check hp 💔

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Idk what to do anymore

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 11:21 PM

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oh i see now

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 11:21 PM

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It’s just climbing heats

cloud barn Oct 8, 2020, 11:21 PM

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do u have all the fated list stuff done

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 11:21 PM

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guan yu and a chaos curse?

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wait no

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you have a gun

unkempt pagoda Oct 8, 2020, 11:22 PM

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just chaos curse, i'm running RI2 so no hp upgrade

onyx parcel Oct 8, 2020, 11:22 PM

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do u have all the fated list stuff done
@cloud barn ah ur right

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 11:22 PM

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thats a lot of missing health

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youre just doing erebus chambers all the time now

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get hit and you lose a death defiance

cloud barn Oct 8, 2020, 11:22 PM

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one punch man but you're the goons

unkempt pagoda Oct 8, 2020, 11:23 PM

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surprisingly, i died!

unkempt zephyr Oct 8, 2020, 11:25 PM

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@unkempt zephyr well, worked, ty
@desert ether 👍

hybrid wave Oct 8, 2020, 11:29 PM

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So is the final keepsake ||hades'|| any good? It seems not that great (whereas the other late keepsake is quickly becoming one of my favorites)

tight cypress Oct 8, 2020, 11:31 PM

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it's pretty decent, the unseen damage buff is worth considering, but as a panic invincibility button it's not the best

unkempt pagoda Oct 8, 2020, 11:31 PM

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it’s underwhelming imo

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the best use i’ve found for it is boosting crystal beam/slicing shot

tight cypress Oct 8, 2020, 11:32 PM

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just don't make the mistake of attacking right after hitting the call, it resets the enemy AI, and ||Hades|| will default to the spin attack, so if you mess up you can easily eat 40 damage

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totally didn't do this on ||EM4|| and eat 80 damage in one second

dense valley Oct 8, 2020, 11:48 PM

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i used to exclusively use the butterfly than trinket, but i started using the ||persephone|| trinket and i think that might be the best trinket in the game

spare flare Oct 8, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Just unlocked Exagryph's hidden aspect.

hazy slate Oct 8, 2020, 11:55 PM

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zeus attack as always

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try and get support fire

sacred wing Oct 8, 2020, 11:56 PM

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Fists: Ares Attack, Athena Special, Athena Dash, get Merciful End = ez win
@limber pine I’m fairly new to the game. By Ares attack you mean Doom? Is that right? And who gives Merciful End?

cloud barn Oct 9, 2020, 12:01 AM

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https://imgur.com/a/NDZQjr9

Imgur

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its a duo boon

sacred wing Oct 9, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Cool thanks @cloud barn 👍🏻

cloud barn Oct 9, 2020, 12:12 AM

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also when someone says "[god] [slot]" they are referring to the boon from that god that takes up that slot

gray juniper Oct 9, 2020, 12:28 AM

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is aspect of rama good?

austere shadow Oct 9, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Is flurry jab / poseidon + zeus duo with rupture and jolt boons a popular build

marsh pumice Oct 9, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Rama mama is great

gray juniper Oct 9, 2020, 12:29 AM

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it seems like most of the aspects in the game are pretty good or useful

thorny basin Oct 9, 2020, 12:30 AM

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ok i vastly prefer aphro attack to art attack on arthur

marsh pumice Oct 9, 2020, 12:30 AM

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it is all of them have uses

dense valley Oct 9, 2020, 12:30 AM

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rama is incredibly good yeah

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i really dislike the 4th gun aspect on a controller with auto aim on

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it doesnt target the bomb and i dont think it feels good to play

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but i bet its pretty good on a kbm or with auto aim off

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rama is cool because i think it makes building more into the special much more viable than it is on the zag aspect

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the zag aspect i dont really love the special on it besides spreading some kind of DoT

gray juniper Oct 9, 2020, 12:32 AM

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okay but the special on the chiron aspect is reallly fun

marsh pumice Oct 9, 2020, 12:32 AM

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it's great, charged volley is OP

gray juniper Oct 9, 2020, 12:33 AM

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charon*

dense valley Oct 9, 2020, 12:33 AM

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no i think you were right with chiron

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and yeah that one looks like a lot of fun

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i just havent messed with it too much yet, i just havent had the spare titan blood to max it out

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and it seems like something that you really do want to max out

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the nice thing about a lot of the 4th aspects is a lot of them dont really need the levels that bad

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like lvl 1 excalibur is totally fine

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guan yu you definitely need, but a lot of them they do what they do on lvl 1

tranquil karma Oct 9, 2020, 12:40 AM

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Noticed a minor glitch, when in the lobby, on the rails below the trader you can get stuck in there if you dash and can only run along the rail. You can dash out of it, but I thought I'd let you know.

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Also, sometimes Dusa just appears for a second in the middle of the line of Shades while in the Great Hall

empty prairie Oct 9, 2020, 12:44 AM

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So I'm using the fists with Demeter aspect and have Demeter on attack, should I do heavy knuckle or breaching cross?

marsh pumice Oct 9, 2020, 12:45 AM

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breaching cross

empty prairie Oct 9, 2020, 12:45 AM

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Kinetic launcher is the third choice, but I don't think it's really worth it rn.

willow fossil Oct 9, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Holy crapz hades keepsake vs theseus is godlike

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You go invisible when he calls a God and just sit and smack him

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Finish him ez

empty prairie Oct 9, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Wait, there's a Hades keepsake?

marsh pumice Oct 9, 2020, 12:48 AM

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no, dont mind him

placid topaz Oct 9, 2020, 12:49 AM

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there is, not sure if its meant to be a spoiler though

rich glen Oct 9, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Do attack buffs from Chaos include dash attacks? I assume so, but im not sure

marsh pumice Oct 9, 2020, 12:49 AM

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now tou spoiled him, what a shame squirtyay

empty prairie Oct 9, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Haha I'm not terribly concerned with spoilers at the moment.

placid topaz Oct 9, 2020, 12:51 AM

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no, sure, but others might be

empty prairie Oct 9, 2020, 12:52 AM

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True.

willow fossil Oct 9, 2020, 12:54 AM

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I am sorry

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It also cleanses poison holy crap

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This is op

soft pine Oct 9, 2020, 12:56 AM

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Darkness...

willow fossil Oct 9, 2020, 1:05 AM

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ok why did no one told me ||em4 hades has a 3rd phase|| im out here screaming I did it, haha sike

unkempt zephyr Oct 9, 2020, 1:06 AM

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ok why did no one told me ||em4 hades has a 3rd phase|| im out here screaming I did it, haha sike
@willow fossil Feels bad man)

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Im now traning with EM4 FO2(40% speed)

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its carnage.

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its F(bad word) carnage. sneaky bastard go in ivisibvle and do lasers so fast on my back.

empty prairie Oct 9, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Colossal knuckle or concentrated knuckle?

solid cairn Oct 9, 2020, 1:08 AM

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It’s been so long since I tried 32 heat

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I am losing 1-2 DDs

marsh pumice Oct 9, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Colossus knuckle

solid cairn Oct 9, 2020, 1:09 AM

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In Tartarus

unkempt zephyr Oct 9, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Colossus knuckle
@marsh pumice agree.30% damage mitigation huge deal

smoky atlas Oct 9, 2020, 1:16 AM

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so turns out dio on chiron special is pretty good

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sick dmg

jolly saffron Oct 9, 2020, 1:16 AM

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chiron is ridiculous

unkempt zephyr Oct 9, 2020, 1:20 AM

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sick dmg
@smoky atlas what duo you take?

smoky atlas Oct 9, 2020, 1:27 AM

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low tolerant and curse of nausea

willow fossil Oct 9, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Dio on anything that hits fast and multiple times is good

unkempt pagoda Oct 9, 2020, 1:35 AM

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bow hammer idea:
chain volley: -3 arrows but your special chains to 1 foe on a hit
~~trying to make chiron more rama-like~~

spare flare Oct 9, 2020, 1:37 AM

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@rich glen Yes, dash-attacks are attacks, and dash-specials are specials.

empty prairie Oct 9, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Finally got my first hidden aspect. Now I just need my first companion.

rich glen Oct 9, 2020, 1:41 AM

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Is ||Thanatos companion|| good? I like the character so I've been giving him stuff, and so without meaning to I got his ||mort||.

smoky atlas Oct 9, 2020, 1:42 AM

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good when it hits

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which is like.... unreliable

mighty ermine Oct 9, 2020, 1:46 AM

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yeah, it's pretty rare for mort to see any use when battie goes off quicker with just a minor damage loss by comparison

rich glen Oct 9, 2020, 1:50 AM

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when ur generally unskilled like me, it sounds more useful i guess

empty prairie Oct 9, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Is Dio the best god for Hera bow?

lapis matrix Oct 9, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Dio is a good combo with Hera

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Poseidon is also good with the bow too

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Given his duo boons

unkempt zephyr Oct 9, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Is Dio the best god for Hera bow?
@empty prairie Its pref .ppl use Dio cast(+demeter and zeus),poseidon cast(+slam boons +zeus ),athena cast(+aphro and zeus)

mighty ermine Oct 9, 2020, 2:02 AM

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the latest patch fixed crush shot's interactions with hera too, so it's a pretty solid option now

empty prairie Oct 9, 2020, 2:07 AM

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So how does Hera work, exactly? If my cast is loaded up, that takes priority, if not, it's my regular attack?

willow fossil Oct 9, 2020, 2:09 AM

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It shoots both

lapis matrix Oct 9, 2020, 2:09 AM

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At once

willow fossil Oct 9, 2020, 2:09 AM

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^

empty prairie Oct 9, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Oh damn, so if I take Poseidon cast and heartbreak strike, it counts it all together?

unkempt pagoda Oct 9, 2020, 2:11 AM

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yes

willow fossil Oct 9, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Correct

unkempt pagoda Oct 9, 2020, 2:11 AM

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hera purely changes where the cast is shot from

willow fossil Oct 9, 2020, 2:12 AM

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Just like ||beowulf||

empty prairie Oct 9, 2020, 2:12 AM

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Damn. That's pretty nutty.

solid portal Oct 9, 2020, 2:12 AM

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The Zeus / Dyo duo boon of the lightning infused hangover cloud is AWESOME

unkempt pagoda Oct 9, 2020, 2:12 AM

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instead of shooting from zag, it just shoots from the arrow

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imo take it with infernal soul, since you can load multiple casts

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hera's niche is in safe burst damage

rich glen Oct 9, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Does Extending Jab on spear apply to dash attacks?

unkempt pagoda Oct 9, 2020, 2:14 AM

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don't think so, dash strikes and attacks are considered two different things to hammers

rich glen Oct 9, 2020, 2:14 AM

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ok ty

outer jasper Oct 9, 2020, 2:19 AM

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question

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Does the delta chamber hammer skill work with the Hestia

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I have the option and not NEEDING to reload sounds nice but not if it means I CANT reload anymore

willow fossil Oct 9, 2020, 2:20 AM

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You can reload