#h1-builds-and-combat | Supergiant Games | Page 607

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Rama is a slow bow, you need to keep stuff far from you. At least it's how I feel.

deft quiver Sep 23, 2020, 2:11 AM

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yeah idd

unkempt pagoda Sep 23, 2020, 2:12 AM

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@dry ember https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U4Gc4bDDQR3Jc0_vvRq1RsvUN-Xm85y90hmww91e3_k/edit?usp=sharing
here's literally every 3 god combination possible

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hopefully the tables are easy enough to understand

dry ember Sep 23, 2020, 2:14 AM

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nice!

unkempt pagoda Sep 23, 2020, 2:15 AM

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some of these are pretty anti-synergistic imo

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ares/demeter/dio for one

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artemis/demeter/zeus is another bleh one

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Artemis/Zeus has the honor of having the absolute worst duo boon

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Is it still terrible? It got buffed. I haven't really tried the new version

unkempt pagoda Sep 23, 2020, 2:19 AM

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actually, it got buffed and is quite nice now

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:20 AM

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It got buffed? Interesting

unkempt pagoda Sep 23, 2020, 2:20 AM

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specifically for non cast builds, it's the ultimate fire and forget boon

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:20 AM

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yet

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Stygian gets no use out of it

unkempt pagoda Sep 23, 2020, 2:20 AM

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the range of attack and attack rate both got increased

robust anchor Sep 23, 2020, 2:20 AM

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what is your favorite zag aspect

unkempt pagoda Sep 23, 2020, 2:20 AM

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zag bow

robust anchor Sep 23, 2020, 2:20 AM

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i am a big fan of the zag sword

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 2:20 AM

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What do you all think is the worst duo now?

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:20 AM

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I am a Stygian fan so yeah lol

unkempt pagoda Sep 23, 2020, 2:20 AM

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freezing vortex, no question

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:21 AM

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yeaaaah

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freezing vortex seems like a nerf

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Cannot be combined with Hunting Blades
Booooooo

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 2:21 AM

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I'm not sure if I've even tried that more than once. Like why take that over hunting blades.

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:21 AM

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because usually at that point you already have a reliable chill applier

unkempt pagoda Sep 23, 2020, 2:22 AM

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its job is to make things slower so you can get more blade rift, but to get it you need a chill boon anyways...

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:22 AM

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If I could take both I would consider

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Stubborn Roots is probably one of the best ones for new players

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 2:23 AM

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If it didn't reduce size and comboed with hunting blades, I'd maybe try for it

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:23 AM

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but not that useful for great ones

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Stubborn Roots sounds great for Stubborn Defiance users

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:23 AM

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What about cold embrace? Super weak for a duo

unkempt pagoda Sep 23, 2020, 2:23 AM

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if it could hunting blades or was bigger, i'd consider it with arctic blast

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Cold Embrace is really good IMO

inland meadow Sep 23, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Sooo I have seen the credits so to speak... how get extreme measures 4?

unkempt pagoda Sep 23, 2020, 2:23 AM

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cold embrace has its uses and at least buffs the cast in question

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Cold Embrace is really good IMO
@acoustic venture

But is that because of the bugs? Be honest.

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:24 AM

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really? Crystal clarity is so much easier to set up

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yeah with hera bow

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Sooo I have seen the credits so to speak... how get extreme measures 4?
@inland meadow Story and spoilers chat question, but as always with Hades, just do more runs, youll unlock it via contractor

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:24 AM

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thoughts on Rare Crop?

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 2:24 AM

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I love rare crop

unkempt pagoda Sep 23, 2020, 2:24 AM

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~~why would you waste hera bow with cold embrace though~~

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Because bugs

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:25 AM

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@acoustic venture

But is that because of the bugs? Be honest.
@bronze sorrel Not sure? I just kinda spam it due to stygian and get free damage

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what bug is there for it thats notable?

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:25 AM

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it auto tracks enemies when used with hera bow

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Oh what

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thats busted

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:26 AM

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yep

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meh

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 2:26 AM

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*sometimes

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:26 AM

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for a duo?

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yeah it's weird

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it doesn't always work the same

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Vengeful Mood is up there

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Along with Ice Wine and Sea Storm

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Getting COmmon Rare Crop is sad

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Merciful End too

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I got an Epic Rare crop in Asphodel

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:27 AM

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I am a passionate fan of Sea Storm

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If you somehow get to stack a ton of Poseidon boons, Sea Storm is just disgusting

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:27 AM

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curse of drowning

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aka

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the blender

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:27 AM

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wincon

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:27 AM

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yup lol

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if you get anything like extra casts from chaos, mirage shot, or fully loaded it's over

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:28 AM

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I got it on my Beo run

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Never tried Curse of Drowning.

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:28 AM

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it's crazy

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:28 AM

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probably best on fists

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Ares is a surprising good Duo source

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:29 AM

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yes

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ares is my boi

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Demeter probably best duo source tho

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surprisingly

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:29 AM

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hmmm

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:29 AM

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for how many eh boons she has

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:30 AM

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I'd say it's hard to say who has the best, but who has the worst?

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maybe dio if not for ice wine, maybe aphro if not for heart rend and smoldering air

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Poseidon

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:30 AM

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sea storm

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curse of drowning

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blizzard shot

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not sure about that

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:30 AM

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hmm

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Poseidon is just insane as a support god.

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:30 AM

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I think everyone has at least a couple good duos, which is pretty awesome

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Everyone has a couple

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:31 AM

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I don't like the prospect of Smoldering Air >>

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:31 AM

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rest in peace hydraulic might

Poseidon is just insane as a support god.
@main citrus

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smoldering air is crazy

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:31 AM

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wait did they nerf Hydraulic?

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:31 AM

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ye

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lasts 10 seconds now

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Unless you are a speedrunner you won't use it

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:31 AM

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but it does significantly less damage

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like 60% vs 200

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meh

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it was super good

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:32 AM

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issue was it didnt last long enough to get into the fight due to some cutscenes

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I hate smouldering

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:32 AM

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I love it lol

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it doesn't work with every call

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:32 AM

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solely because half the time I have Aphro cast

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:32 AM

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yeah aphro call sucks with it

random light Sep 23, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Man that empowered Demeter Malphon special is no joke

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Mirage Shot with Hunting Blades is disgusting lol

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:32 AM

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and I like my casts to be boss nukes

random light Sep 23, 2020, 2:32 AM

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especially at the higher ranks

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:32 AM

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casts or calls?

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:33 AM

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mirage shot with anything is disgusting

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:33 AM

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I got it once, I was laughing all the time.

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:33 AM

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calls*

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whoops

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:33 AM

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demeter aspect is super good ye

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:33 AM

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at rank 1 its eh but once you start pouring blood into it

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whood

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:33 AM

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Mirage Shot + Hunting Blades + full buffed rifts = Shredding Machine

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:33 AM

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hydraulic might is super disappointing

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:33 AM

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deth time

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:34 AM

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it's still pretty good

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60% isn't a joke

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:34 AM

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I'd still rather take it over flood dash on malphon

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:34 AM

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just not as good

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imo

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:34 AM

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I love Artemis and Athena with all my heart, but Uncle Popo is such a bro in this game

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Not only in personality, but his boons are a great help.

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:35 AM

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eh

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:35 AM

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we all know that fishing legendary is broken as hell

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absolutely busted

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:35 AM

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I like his cast

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Zeus is such the perfect snob

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he can NEVER let his ego go

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:35 AM

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I don't like running Zeus a lot. Dunno why, the boons are kinda disappointing for me :/

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:35 AM

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depends on what you run him on

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:35 AM

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really great on Rail

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:36 AM

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chaos shield/rail is nice

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:36 AM

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specially Luci

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:36 AM

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yes

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Same im not big into zeus just feel like all his numbers dont compare to the others

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Im seriously of the opinion that the Hera aspect of the Bow is the strongest

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Some gods are great when paired only. Some are just extremely good on their own.

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:36 AM

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I hate Luci special with all my heart

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Rama would like to have a word with your Hera-sy

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Do someone even use Hellfire? lol

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:36 AM

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yes

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Loading three bloodstones with whatever cast is disgusting broken

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Chiron is my favorite bow

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:36 AM

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meh

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:37 AM

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I like all the bow aspects

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Chiron go brrr

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Rama is just s t r o n g

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Hera Bow with HUnting Blades + Mirage Shot = lol

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Burh it just explodes into water ballon when posidion is involved

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:37 AM

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I just dont like Zagspect tbh

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:37 AM

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I agree

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:37 AM

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rail is my least favourite weapon overall. It would be spear but GY alone makes up for all the other spears

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:37 AM

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crit chance is nice but eh in comparision to others

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:37 AM

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@livid comet have you tried luci aspect?

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:37 AM

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not enough blood

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:37 AM

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My fastest run was Fists, before the Charon update. My funniest runs were Spear and Rail, for sure.

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:37 AM

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ah rip

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get zeus on that

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gg

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Lucifer is kinda tricky

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:38 AM

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(usually, on low heat)

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:38 AM

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I enjoy rail but I feel like the aspects are counterintuitive to my hold attack go brr playstyle

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:38 AM

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There's just this extremely satisfying sensation of having a good rail run.

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:38 AM

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besides Zagspect

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probably best Zagspect is rail

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:38 AM

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I love to get support fire on the adamant rail

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Zagspect fists...

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:38 AM

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@acoustic venture Join the Delta Chamber Cult, my friend.

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 2:38 AM

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I don't like the new fists just because 4 seconds is too long to be useful for normal enemies it's always faster to just finish them off

robust anchor Sep 23, 2020, 2:38 AM

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id like hera more if bosses didnt have adds

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:38 AM

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I am already a Delta Chamber worshipper

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:38 AM

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I got really into it when i was on a lucy run and hades condemed that damn thing for being the most unerving of the weapons

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:38 AM

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I would say that zag shield and spear are decent now

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:39 AM

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new fists are about dash strikes, not specials.

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Rail, more like shotgun

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:39 AM

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let those who say its lead to its rise to power

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:39 AM

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I remember the days of prepatch spread fire

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Zagspect fists residentzag

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Did they do something different with the spread fire actually?

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:39 AM

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I used to love them for the faster attack

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:39 AM

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me too

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:39 AM

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yeah? what happened?

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:39 AM

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It does feel more like a shotgun, but less powerful for some reason'

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:39 AM

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took it away

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only dodge chance now

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:40 AM

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It does feel more like a shotgun, but less powerful for some reason'
@prisma dove it's cause it is

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:40 AM

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u w o t

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nooooo

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:40 AM

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:c

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:40 AM

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yeah

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:40 AM

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best fists are gone

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:40 AM

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I remember when I got this super fast sword run to cover the limited time heat requisites (for the prophecy), then I do a Rail run right after withg my regular heat setting and get an ever better time lol

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:40 AM

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been shopping for a new comfy fist aspect to run

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:40 AM

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none of them

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:40 AM

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Just get demeter

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:40 AM

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havent unlocked || gilg || yet

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:40 AM

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been loving demeter /new one

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:40 AM

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and none of the others are leveled

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:40 AM

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highly recommend

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 2:40 AM

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I love demeter and zag

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Pro tip: that isn't what you're looking for

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:41 AM

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I haven't gotten the last fist unlock either

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:41 AM

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so Demeter gets no actual bonus from it

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Talos Fists represent \o/

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:41 AM

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yeah ive heard mixed reports about new fists

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:41 AM

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I don't wanna spoil too much, but which God gives you the Phrase?

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:41 AM

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I like them

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:41 AM

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new fists are weird and hard to not get hit with

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:41 AM

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I don't wanna spoil too much, but which God gives you the Phrase?
@prisma dove none

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:41 AM

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meh

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:41 AM

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god?

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:41 AM

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:c

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:41 AM

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lol

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:41 AM

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For the fists? ||Asterius||

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:41 AM

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incorrect spelling

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Cause Artemis gave me my phrase for the bow

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Oh the minotaur?

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:42 AM

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||(It's asterius)||

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 2:42 AM

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Zag fists with lambent plume is lots of fun

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:42 AM

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yep

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:42 AM

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sure but you can't even get 100% dodge chance

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:42 AM

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its very RNG bc you cant force an encounter

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:42 AM

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Those greek entities and their complicated names 😏 orz

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 2:42 AM

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Alright but like 50%dodge chance feels so good

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Youre basically a tank

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:42 AM

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been doing Malphon runs to try and unlock it but no luck yet

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:42 AM

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I've done smoldering air-second wind

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with zag fists

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and lambent plume

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:42 AM

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Hmm

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:42 AM

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and hermes dodge

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:42 AM

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I saw a guy in boasting that had a ton of dodge stacked.

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Not 100%, but close

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:43 AM

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but I don't think you actually can get 100% dodge chance

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 2:43 AM

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You dont need to be using the fists to unlock it

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:43 AM

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I think max ive seen is 65%

main citrus Sep 23, 2020, 2:43 AM

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Dude had like, 90%+

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:43 AM

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oh you dont? I thought you did

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:43 AM

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@acoustic venture the weapon doesn't matter. you have to fight asterius alone a bunch of times

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 2:43 AM

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I got it while using stygian

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:43 AM

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Good to know

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:43 AM

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gdi phone

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:43 AM

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Actually i should know, i got the Bow phrase from Atermis using a shield

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:43 AM

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||new fists might be better for dodge than zag aspect cause you can run ruthless reflex and still play the game lol||

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:44 AM

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I still need to get 30% on butterfly and 20% on plume

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 2:44 AM

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@acoustic venture the weapon doesn't matter. you have to fight asterius alone a bunch of times
@livid comet

You could have left it. Asteroid is pretty accurate for how he fights.

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:44 AM

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100% dodge chance would be broken

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:44 AM

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theres chievos for that now

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:44 AM

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lmao

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Am i wrong for thinking Aphrodite is super weak when it comes to DPS?

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:44 AM

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I got an achievement for not letting than get any kills lol

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yes

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 2:44 AM

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I mean yeah but still i feel like youre better off just using zag fists for dodge because its more reliable and fists the playstyle better

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:44 AM

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I don't even understand how to fully weaponize her kit, Weak just requires too much set up for me

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:44 AM

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you might as well just hit X and square at the same time

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:45 AM

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@prisma dove aphro has the best percentages on moves

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:45 AM

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followed by Poseidon and Athena iirc?

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:45 AM

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@prisma dove privileged status, plus poms on her boons

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:45 AM

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yes

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and demeter?

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those three

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:45 AM

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MMmhh

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:45 AM

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though ive seen people praising Arti

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:45 AM

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yeah the triple A build

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:45 AM

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so wrong depending on the weapon

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well arti is nice cause you can get one crit and out damage other boons if you have something fast

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:45 AM

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I find aph more reliable than art for damage

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yeah if you're making more attacks, art is better

acoustic venture Sep 23, 2020, 2:46 AM

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even though her crit seems inconsistent to me

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 2:46 AM

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I love arti lots of big numbers make brain happy

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:46 AM

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well it is lol

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:46 AM

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I figured you'd run a Crit build with the Zag aspects since most of them use Crit chance anyway

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:46 AM

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15 on attack, 20 on special

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:46 AM

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I say most, but its like two of them that use Crit chance right

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:46 AM

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yeah I really enjoyed a deadly reversal build on nemesis sword

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:46 AM

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The sword and the Bow specifically, i think

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OH damn

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:46 AM

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pressure points is really good in general

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:46 AM

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huh

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:47 AM

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I forgot Nemesis existed

ruby nebula Sep 23, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Just unlocked the shield and was wondering what sort of strategies people use to clear non-boss rooms

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 2:48 AM

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dash attack go brr

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:48 AM

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there's a guide somewhere I wish I could link

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depends on the shield aspect you're using

ruby nebula Sep 23, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Ah ok

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Because of the special

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:49 AM

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I'm not super knowledgable about the shield cause it's my least used weapon

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although I know you can just go chaos and spam zeus special lol

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and that can deal with anything

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or ares

ruby nebula Sep 23, 2020, 2:50 AM

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Haha from what Ive seen, Ares is generally the go to for shield

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:50 AM

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I mean, I don't really know too much.

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Zag shield has some good damage

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 2:50 AM

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Arti dash strike damage works pretty well on sheild

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:50 AM

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so you might consider a percent based god

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yeah

ruby nebula Sep 23, 2020, 2:50 AM

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ok

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:51 AM

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athena is a safe bet I think

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 2:51 AM

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Could also go for a bull rush build from hammers

ruby nebula Sep 23, 2020, 2:51 AM

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well, thanks for the help, Its time for my next run I think

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🙂

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 2:52 AM

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No problem! Have fun!

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:52 AM

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good luck

blazing wadi Sep 23, 2020, 2:52 AM

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I want to learn how to think about builds

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:53 AM

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are you new?

blazing wadi Sep 23, 2020, 2:53 AM

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I guess I need to be more familiar with all boobs

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Heh

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 2:53 AM

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Its a skill ive picked up from a lot of other games in a general sense

blazing wadi Sep 23, 2020, 2:53 AM

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Yeah, I’m new

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 2:53 AM

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I just think of it as a deck building for yugioh/mtg

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:53 AM

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I recommend #h1-for-new-players. They can help you out

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they talk about builds there too

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 2:53 AM

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^

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 2:53 AM

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but it might be easier for you

blazing wadi Sep 23, 2020, 2:53 AM

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I’ll check it out! Thanks

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:58 AM

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shield used to be my favourite weapon

fervent mural Sep 23, 2020, 2:58 AM

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Is there a|| fishing boon||?

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 2:58 AM

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yep

fervent mural Sep 23, 2020, 2:59 AM

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Pog

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:00 AM

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fishing legendary best boon

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hard carries

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 3:01 AM

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Is it possible to get a heroic from a boon without trading

barren nimbus Sep 23, 2020, 3:01 AM

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honest question does anyone like getting zeus/poseidon boons? they always feel super underwhelming to me. probably the only gods i actively avoid getting when possible

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:01 AM

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rare crop or eurydice I believe @drifting vale

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Zeus is pretty good on certain weapons

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 3:02 AM

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Yeah i figured that i meant like just actually getting them to appear on their own without forcing it

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:02 AM

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chaos shield

fervent mural Sep 23, 2020, 3:02 AM

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I think poseidon has a nice damage multiplier?

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:02 AM

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adamant rail

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he does

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not as good as aphro but I think tied for 2nd or something like that

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err no

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but he's pretty good

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poseidon has good duos

fervent mural Sep 23, 2020, 3:03 AM

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Well he also has tht extra damage to bosses boon

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:03 AM

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yeah, that's okay

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he doesn't work on everything

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but his duos are preeeeeetty crazy

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zeus is really good on fast weapons/weapons that are relatively weak and won't be helped too much by percentages

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his legendary is nuts

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jolted pretty good too

random light Sep 23, 2020, 3:04 AM

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Zeus is excellent for on hit, same as Dionysus

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:04 AM

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like I said chaos shield and any adamant rail is really good

fervent mural Sep 23, 2020, 3:04 AM

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Favourite poseidon duo boon?

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:04 AM

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oooof

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that's hard

random light Sep 23, 2020, 3:04 AM

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Poseidon/Demeter

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 3:04 AM

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Blizzard shot

random light Sep 23, 2020, 3:04 AM

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the Ice cast

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:04 AM

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hmmm

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the other dope ones are

random light Sep 23, 2020, 3:04 AM

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Although Poseidon/Zeus also really fun

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:04 AM

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curse of drowning, sea storm, mirage shot

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yeah

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I really like all of those rip

deft quiver Sep 23, 2020, 3:05 AM

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lol i won my run but didnt get the legendary boon

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:05 AM

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making me choose ;(

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curse of drowning is probably my favorite poseidon duo

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the blender

fervent mural Sep 23, 2020, 3:06 AM

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zaglol

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 3:06 AM

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Is there a good DOT effect

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:06 AM

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yes

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 3:06 AM

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is it the drunk

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:06 AM

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hangover can be nice

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*sometimes

upper salmon Sep 23, 2020, 3:07 AM

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decay is also dot but thats hard to get

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and there's a boon that makes doom into dot

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:07 AM

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but some duos are pretty good if you count ice wine and Scintillating Feast

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oh you mean like curse of longing?

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yeah that's pretty good depending on the weapon

upper salmon Sep 23, 2020, 3:08 AM

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mhmm

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:08 AM

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there's also lightning rod

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I just like to meme about lightning rod though

fervent mural Sep 23, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Exclusive access sounds great oo

random light Sep 23, 2020, 3:08 AM

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did they make the lernie fight harder?

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it feels harder

fervent mural Sep 23, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Guaranteed epic+boons

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:08 AM

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no I don't think so

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unless you add heat

random light Sep 23, 2020, 3:09 AM

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i mean yeah there's the Extreme Measures but even that feels way harder

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 3:10 AM

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I really like Ares more than other gods for some reason

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:10 AM

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mmm I mean I think they made it so you can run into different kinds of lernie fights

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depending on how their horns look or something

upper salmon Sep 23, 2020, 3:10 AM

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you can

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:10 AM

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I really like Ares more than other gods for some reason
@prisma dove ares is my boiiiiii

fervent mural Sep 23, 2020, 3:10 AM

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I like demeter.
She is so...
Chill

upper salmon Sep 23, 2020, 3:10 AM

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the green ones spawn enemies

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the blue ones uh

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smack

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the orange shoot fireball

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the pink shoot

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 3:10 AM

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The pink ones like to crash ur party with WAVES

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:11 AM

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that one infuriates me

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 3:11 AM

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I think its the pink with waves,

upper salmon Sep 23, 2020, 3:11 AM

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waves and darts

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Pin the tail on the God

mighty ermine Sep 23, 2020, 3:11 AM

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pink shoots waves, base color shoots dart projectiles

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:11 AM

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I think I typically do more damage to myself than lernie does to me cause with extreme measures there is no space at all

prisma dove Sep 23, 2020, 3:12 AM

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i dont think i ever got as far as the Furies with Extreme Measures in place

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By that i mean i smacked her silly and then died because Asphodel is really hot

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:14 AM

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I have yet to try ||extreme measure's 4 and I'm super hype. I've been thinking of builds to try for awhile.||

stone river Sep 23, 2020, 3:14 AM

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is gods pride > olympians favor?

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:14 AM

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depends on the build

stone river Sep 23, 2020, 3:14 AM

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fist

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:14 AM

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did you ask this question earlier?

stone river Sep 23, 2020, 3:14 AM

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i might have lmao

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i just saw they have a reset button costing 1 key

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:15 AM

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i just saw they have a reset button costing 1 key
@stone river Or if you're rich like me you have everything unlocked lol

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imo favor>pride for fists

stone river Sep 23, 2020, 3:15 AM

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eh im sort of just limit testing the ng+ or whatever

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:15 AM

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typically

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because most fist builds encourage using a special, and an attack

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and if you can get two different gods on them it's pretty nice

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the same reason why things like merciful end is really dope on fists

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but if you're only running one god mainly than yeah go favor

stone river Sep 23, 2020, 3:17 AM

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ahh gotcha

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:17 AM

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or,

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if you're running multiple gods but not getting a lot of curses

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like you run into a lot of different gods and pick up support boons

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then favor is also nice there

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and obviously the rng doesn't like to listen to what you "want", so just pick favor if you think you'll bet getting two curses, and pride if you aren't planning on it

stone river Sep 23, 2020, 3:19 AM

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yea

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:19 AM

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pride is safer though if rng is giving you athena and dionysus on your sea storm build for example

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;(

molten canopy Sep 23, 2020, 3:29 AM

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Does zeus special with aspect of demeter for fists cast a lightning bolt for each hit?

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:30 AM

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I believe so? Haven't tried it yet though

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been think of trying it but never got there

molten canopy Sep 23, 2020, 3:31 AM

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i guess I'll just try it now for science

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:31 AM

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what's really been fun was ares with dire misfortune and artemis

buoyant egret Sep 23, 2020, 3:31 AM

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does pierced butterfly boost cast damage?

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:32 AM

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I believe so

unkempt pagoda Sep 23, 2020, 3:32 AM

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butterfly is a global damage boost, so yes

buoyant egret Sep 23, 2020, 3:32 AM

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ok thx

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:32 AM

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that's an interesting idea actually

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I think it's usually better to buy use charon's keepsake and pray for items though

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but I didn't think of that

molten canopy Sep 23, 2020, 3:33 AM

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I can't tell if it's proc'ing with each hit because everything is dying too fast -_-

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:33 AM

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that's a good problem to have lol

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actually

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just took a look at #h1-discussion and someone says that zeus's cooldown is long enough that chiron won't proc a bolt on every hit so it's unlikely it will on demeter special rip

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it might have worked a couple patches ago? Can't remember if that change was just zeus on lucifer aspect or zeus in general

pearl plank Sep 23, 2020, 3:40 AM

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Out of curiosity, is there a list anywhere of what the different boon effects are on Theseus' spear? I've noticed they work slightly differently to Zagreus' boons, and it'd be interesting to see how exactly they differ

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I've noticed that the Athena boon gives Theseus invuln while attacking rather than giving the spear deflect properties, for one

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:41 AM

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hmm

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what are the other different ones you've noticed?

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I don't really pay attention during that lol

grim thorn Sep 23, 2020, 3:42 AM

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so uh

pearl plank Sep 23, 2020, 3:42 AM

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I recall noticing Chill working slightly differently, though I don't remember exactly how

grim thorn Sep 23, 2020, 3:42 AM

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how do I build aspect of rama?

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 3:42 AM

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doom, dio gives poison in an area

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zeus special, artemis crit

grim thorn Sep 23, 2020, 3:42 AM

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I accidentally picked it and I always play Chiron

mighty ermine Sep 23, 2020, 3:42 AM

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twin shot hammer absolutely

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try to apply shared suffering on everything you can, even single targets

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:43 AM

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twin shot rama is disgusting honestly

mighty ermine Sep 23, 2020, 3:43 AM

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it really is

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:43 AM

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what a chunk

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and shared suffering works on the thing you're hitting

mighty ermine Sep 23, 2020, 3:43 AM

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phasing the furies with a single power shot each

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:43 AM

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I loved rama special before it got nerfed twice too :(

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actually speaking of rama

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||I was thinking of spamming the new sigil with smoldering air and was wondering of the best weapon to use it. Maybe Rama cause it does so much damage in only one hit?||

manic ruin Sep 23, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Anyone have a good shield build?

grim thorn Sep 23, 2020, 3:54 AM

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which aspect?

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:54 AM

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^

manic ruin Sep 23, 2020, 3:55 AM

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Zeus or chaos

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:55 AM

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zeus special is good on both

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on chaos you could also consider ares special

manic ruin Sep 23, 2020, 3:56 AM

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Is chaos worth using with no upgrades?

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 3:56 AM

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um

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you probably should upgrade it

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but I guess you can still use it

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just it won't be nearly as good

manic ruin Sep 23, 2020, 3:56 AM

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Okay I'll run zeus aspect with zeus special. I'm saving up my titans blood for something

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I have no idea what, but for something

grim thorn Sep 23, 2020, 4:00 AM

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I was saving my titan's blood for when I FINALLY got Asterius to give me the fists

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but then I had 35 titan's blood

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so I spent some

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:01 AM

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you saved up 35? damn that's some real restraint

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when I still was upgrading I spent blood immediately on the things I liked

grim thorn Sep 23, 2020, 4:03 AM

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I already did

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I've maxed 2 aspects on most weapons

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:03 AM

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nice! congrats

grim thorn Sep 23, 2020, 4:04 AM

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but I've done like 15 runs since 1.0 and still asterius does not give me the password

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:04 AM

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tried using the actual fists?

grim thorn Sep 23, 2020, 4:04 AM

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three times

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:04 AM

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hmm

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with me

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wait

grim thorn Sep 23, 2020, 4:04 AM

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but I have to keep all my heat levels even

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:04 AM

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have you upgraded the fists at all?

grim thorn Sep 23, 2020, 4:05 AM

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yeah, I have Talos maxed

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:05 AM

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how much blood is that total?

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 4:05 AM

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@knotty rock i feel like the only of those examples that would be kind is the house contractor one
all of the achievements are supposed to be just play as you go without being crazy hard

grim thorn Sep 23, 2020, 4:05 AM

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like 15

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:05 AM

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oh ok

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for me I didn't get it until I used zag aspect

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but I'm not sure

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that that's it

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it could have been that I had to get through certain dialogue before it let it play first

knotty rock Sep 23, 2020, 4:06 AM

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That’s fair I guess

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 4:06 AM

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you have guan yu right hoopy?

knotty rock Sep 23, 2020, 4:06 AM

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They had to pick a balance between accessibility and rewarding skill, which they did so far

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 4:06 AM

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yeah the only achievement im stuck on is the greater call against trial

grim thorn Sep 23, 2020, 4:07 AM

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@drifting vale yep, got all the other hidden aspects and guan yu is maxed

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just unlucky

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 4:07 AM

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i just cant get enough call juice before the things ends

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:07 AM

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try zag aspect if it doesn't drive you crazy like it does to me

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 4:07 AM

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I dont want to just Hermes and wait out the gauge

knotty rock Sep 23, 2020, 4:07 AM

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Use increased enemy life totals and/or do it in elysium where you can let the dudes respawn over and over

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:07 AM

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what do you need for the achievement?

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 4:07 AM

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good idea ill try that next run ty

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use a gods greater call against them in a trial

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:08 AM

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ah okey

grim thorn Sep 23, 2020, 4:08 AM

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I got it in elysium by saccing a death defiance to lava

pseudo stream Sep 23, 2020, 4:08 AM

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do dash strike things work with spinning sweep dashes?

grim thorn Sep 23, 2020, 4:08 AM

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er, asphodel

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:10 AM

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a sweep dash?

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 4:10 AM

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im assuming for spear?

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 4:10 AM

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@grim thorn love the name. Douglas Adams forever

unkempt pagoda Sep 23, 2020, 4:10 AM

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spin dashes are not proper dash strikes

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:10 AM

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the spin attack does not count

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ye

unkempt pagoda Sep 23, 2020, 4:10 AM

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dash strikes are specifically when you dash, then attack, and each weapon has a defined dash strike

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spin dash is just a neat tech

grim thorn Sep 23, 2020, 4:11 AM

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#towelgang

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:11 AM

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ohhh I know what is a spin dash now

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when you dash as you release it

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got it

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yeah it's not counted

grim thorn Sep 23, 2020, 4:13 AM

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alright well my level 1 first-ever aspect of rama run has been salvaged by crystal clarity + glacial glare

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Gotta love when you fully fail to boon optimize a weapon and just go hard in on casts

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Gotta roll with the punches in this game

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:15 AM

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happens so many times

stark ore Sep 23, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Any good boons for spear? Been mainly running Athena for casts/dashes, Ares for calls/specials, and Dionysus for attacks but not sure if there's any other ones I should take.

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Which spear?

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:15 AM

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like when I tried a quick spin hades build and ended up with an ice wine feast build lol

kind cloud Sep 23, 2020, 4:15 AM

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just now...my first time ever (?!?!?) using demeter special on zeus shield with dio dash...
kinda felt overpowered and i had no duo boons.
weird

smacked the crap out of enemies at 20 heat

interesting.

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Zagreus?

stark ore Sep 23, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Yeah, Zagreus

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Is it upgraded, or no?

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:16 AM

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I use zag spear a bunch

stark ore Sep 23, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Not upgraded yet. Still grinding

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:16 AM

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then zeus probably

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at least in my experience

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maybe ares

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but I like zeus

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 4:17 AM

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Yep, zeus for sure

stark ore Sep 23, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Actually haven't tried out zeus for hits, so far I've been praying I get chain skewer and ares in the same run, works like a charm imo

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:20 AM

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zeus works great with chain skewer actually

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 4:20 AM

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Go for strike over flourish imo

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:20 AM

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might as well use any other spear if going strike but I'm assuming they don't have those

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 4:21 AM

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He doesn't have zag spear upgraded

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There's no bonus for special

stark ore Sep 23, 2020, 4:21 AM

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Yeah, gonna spend a while grinding for it, upgraded spears sound dope

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:22 AM

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right

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spear was my favorite, then my least favorite, and now I like them again

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mostly cause I find zag fun

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Your gonna love them when you finally ketchup (snare crash)

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:23 AM

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y'all know how i can get the rail beam aspect that was shown in the trailer? it looks like so much fun

untold vortex Sep 23, 2020, 4:24 AM

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read the pinned messages in #h1-story-discussion (specifically the 2nd one)

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

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thank you! i appreciate it, i actually have all the requisites i just dont like Zeus' boons 😳

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Zeus is indeed the worst god

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:26 AM

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um

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I disagree

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:26 AM

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smh my head

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:26 AM

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but sure

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:26 AM

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i used to think it was hermes but i LOVE hermes now

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:26 AM

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particularly on luci aspect

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:26 AM

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followed closely by Dio

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:26 AM

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you dont play with the combo weapons do you?

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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Combo weapons?

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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dio is more arguable, but zeus is pretty good

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yeah what is a combo weapon

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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multihit weapons, is that a better way to say it?

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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I've used every weapon

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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like the rail, gauntlets

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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Multihit?

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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that sorta thing

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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rail and gauntlets are my favorite

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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Like, fast weapons??

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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zeus is really good on them

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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exactly

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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yes that's what they mean I think

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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theres a niche for everything

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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High attack speed weapons

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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^ yes, low damage per hit, high dps

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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I tend to use fists and spear

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Bow can be either or

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:28 AM

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yea

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Zeus on Rama Special is decent

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just stay calm and hold Y

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:28 AM

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i unlocked the 4th aspect for the sword and im poppin people

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so so overtuned Xd

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Arthur is too slow for me

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:28 AM

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not really, but I like it

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*not really overtuned

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:28 AM

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yeah

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:29 AM

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yeah you have to be more calculated with it, i think having 300 damage on the final swing is so strong when you can easily find a hammer upgrade that pumps its damage to armor, pair it with the butterfly and backstabs 😳

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:29 AM

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yes, it is pretty good

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there are plenty of higher dps options though

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:30 AM

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yeah, its the difference between high damage and DPS

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nemesis' aspect on the sword for instance

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delicious

hard kelp Sep 23, 2020, 4:31 AM

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what aspects are worth funneling blood into early?

sterile comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:31 AM

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Hello everyone.

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:31 AM

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honestly, whatever's fun

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hello

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:31 AM

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hi cathy!!

sterile comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Just hit the credits on my 40th escape attempt, and I'm feeling pretty pleased with myself.

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:32 AM

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@hard kelp if you wanna go far, pump into nemesis aspect on stygious and go for artemis boons

sterile comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Favorite aspect is definitely ||Claws of Enkidu for Malphon||

stark ore Sep 23, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Also is aphro worth it? Weak usually doesn't seem to be as useful as other curses imo

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:32 AM

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aphro has the best percentages

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:32 AM

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the thing with aphro is her %

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:32 AM

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so yes it's worth

sterile comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Yeah, that's realy what you're going for with Aphrodite

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her ratios are huge.

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:32 AM

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and you can get other boons that make people take more damage while weak

sterile comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Hmm

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I feel like I missed a gag there talking about Aphrodite's huge ratios.

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That's really unfortunate.

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:33 AM

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I remember the days of stunlocking the final boss with aphro

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:33 AM

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yeah, timing's gone now 🥺

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Aphrodite is probably the second best after Athena. Artemis might contend

sterile comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Artemis I generally use in builds that have a really high attack speed

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:34 AM

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athena's really strong but i dont have as much fun when i can spam and deflect literally everything, artemis is my fav, simply for big numbers

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le BONK and it's a 600 dmg crit on stygious

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 4:34 AM

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Artemis I generally use in builds that have a really high attack speed
@sterile comet

Base damage is more important I think

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:35 AM

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^ this, i used artemis in attackspeed builds for the support fire boon, because it's fun

stark ore Sep 23, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Imo Dionysis is the best, followed by Athena and Poseidon. Might just be because I'm a noob but dionysys and poseidon are really good in biomes, maybe poseidon less so in bosses

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:35 AM

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poseidon and dio have grown on me a lot

sterile comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:35 AM

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I may be incorrectly relying on my build knowledge from League of Legends but I know there you rely on attack speed and crit chance as an ad carry to increase your dps.

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Maybe that is not applicable for a reason I'm not thinking of in Hades...

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 4:36 AM

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In league you have more stuff to buff bade damage

sterile comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:36 AM

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That's true, like your character level.

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Base damage*

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:36 AM

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no, it is applicable, but there are 2 types od AD carries, the big hitters, like xayah who got for both base damage and crit, and others who favor the attackspeed

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:37 AM

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I mean

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it's not that black and white

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:37 AM

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yeah, builds are flexible

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and there are spellcasters

sterile comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:37 AM

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In any case, probably my actual favorite build is a dots build

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 4:37 AM

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So the thing is, almost everything in this is percent increase

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:37 AM

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spell casters? Yo where is that at

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sounds dope

sterile comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:37 AM

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My all time favorite build was probably

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Got Hangover, Rupture, and Decay all at the same time.

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 4:38 AM

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quick question does each room of styx count as an encounter or just the last one

sterile comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:38 AM

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SO I was dealing out like 100 dps just from status curses without clicking at all.

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:38 AM

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each room counts

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which is nice

drifting vale Sep 23, 2020, 4:38 AM

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sick ty

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:38 AM

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sometimes

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np

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:38 AM

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spell casters? Yo where is that at
@snow furnace i was referring to league, champions like lucian and ezreal, they're spellcaster adcs

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:38 AM

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oh ok

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:38 AM

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rupture is poseidon correct?

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:38 AM

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yes

sterile comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Yes, it's one of my favorite effects

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:38 AM

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where's decay from?

sterile comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Demeter has a boon that causes all enemies to take massive dots if they are all chilled at the same time.

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:39 AM

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^

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she also has boons to help spread it

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pretty nice

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:39 AM

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ah i see, i've never taken it because i feel like it would be too niche

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i need to use demeter more, Rare crop is the best thing ever

sterile comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Demeter feels extremely badass.

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:39 AM

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big money at the temple of styx

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:40 AM

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yeah but otherwise rare crop is just free poms

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Demeter feels like such a Jaded queen, i love her characterisation

sterile comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:40 AM

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DCSS was my first roguelike, and it taught me the valuable lesson that you need to be afraid of ice characters way way more than fire characters.

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:41 AM

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yeah but otherwise rare crop is just free poms
can someone spell the difference between rarity and level on a boon?

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:41 AM

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it's pretty similar

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:41 AM

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are they just seperate metrics for the same variable?

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 4:41 AM

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For everyone new here, there are some very good players in the community who stream that you can learn alot from. Highly recommend checking out Haelions channel as well as Nyaanyaa Mewmew (the latter of whom is also super active in the discord and helps us all suck less out of the goodness of her heart).

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Though, note things may get spoiled

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If you haven't finished a run yet

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:42 AM

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might want to post that to #h1-for-new-players

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Ya, it just seemed like there where alot of new folks in here right now

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:42 AM

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yeah

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hard for people to not see spoilers too

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 4:43 AM

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And its relevant since thats a good place for new players to learn about builds and combat. /Shrug

untold vortex Sep 23, 2020, 4:43 AM

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they're seperate, because some boons (namely Hermes) can't be leveled but they can have their rarity increased

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:44 AM

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oh right

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there's that

ornate remnant Sep 23, 2020, 4:44 AM

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does pierced butterfly buff stay if you swap it off after getting it up

untold vortex Sep 23, 2020, 4:44 AM

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no

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same for Hermes keepsake

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you swap it out, you lose the bonus attatched

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:45 AM

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pierced butterfly is nuts, also, does anyone know the specifics of the shackle keepsake? like, if my special is buffed by a boon, does it just stop working for the attack and cast?

untold vortex Sep 23, 2020, 4:45 AM

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just the special

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:45 AM

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okay cool, i've been unsure but wanting to take it

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Ya, if you get a boon, lose the bonus

untold vortex Sep 23, 2020, 4:46 AM

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if you get a boon for the slot (attack, special or cast)

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:46 AM

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I think shackle might be pretty nice for high heat runs with max tight deadline now

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:46 AM

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what's changed?

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Ya, for sure. Getting that good tartarus is key

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:46 AM

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because tartarus might be hard with only 5 min

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:46 AM

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i've clocked 35 hours and only just realised there's boon slots for special, attack and cast on the left of the screen

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:47 AM

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wew

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and also dash

untold vortex Sep 23, 2020, 4:47 AM

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9/7/5 minutes per biome, but remaining time rolls over biomes

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:47 AM

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^

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:47 AM

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is this EM4?

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:47 AM

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this is a little off topic but im so glad i get so much replayability from a supergiant game

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:47 AM

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better than how I was going to word it

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no

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tight deadline

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Also you need a super good Tartarus to survive Elysium and Asphodel

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:47 AM

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yeah

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:48 AM

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oh, TD has changed rip

manic ruin Sep 23, 2020, 4:48 AM

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How much does Aphro call do on 25% call?

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:48 AM

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kind of hoping for like 3 minute tartarus

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:48 AM

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i dont think you really use aphro call for dps 😮 only the greater call

bronze sorrel Sep 23, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Base tight deadline is basically 1 free heat now lol

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:48 AM

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yeah pretty much

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:48 AM

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i may be entirely wrong

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also yeah i've been abusing tight deadline

untold vortex Sep 23, 2020, 4:49 AM

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yeah only the greater call

manic ruin Sep 23, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Bc I have the duo boon for Zeus and aphro and the thing that gives dodge chance and mvm speed for 10 sec

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Damn :(

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:49 AM

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if you get something like zeus call it's pretty nice

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:49 AM

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it's still a great call in normal encounters

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:49 AM

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or demeter to spread chill

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:49 AM

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I mean, with max Guan Yu the anti-healing gives you 4 free heat

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:49 AM

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im so bad with the spear, i want to be good with Guan Yu so bad xd

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:50 AM

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It's a matter of playstyle

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:50 AM

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quick spiiiiiiin

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:50 AM

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it just has to click

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naw, charged skewer is the way to go

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:50 AM

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i like it's moveset tho

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:50 AM

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GY has the best special in the game imo

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:50 AM

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right??

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its so good

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just a quick yeet

sterile comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Does it???

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:51 AM

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I disagree

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:51 AM

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tbh, nemesis might IMO but i havent used all aspects

sterile comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:51 AM

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I knew it was alright, but I didn't realize it was a contender for best special.

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:51 AM

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GY is all about the special, not the spin

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:51 AM

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I mean there's also zag special if you really care

sterile comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Maybe this is just me being a sumerian provincialist, but I kind of like Maimed on the Claws of Enkidu, it's pretty sweet :3

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:51 AM

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but there's chaos shield special

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:51 AM

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bleh

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:51 AM

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demeter special

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chiron special

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Chiron special was not much to write home about imo

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:52 AM

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the aegis specials for me just dont click, i dont like any of them

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i dropped it after i wasted titan blood on Zeus

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:52 AM

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rip zeus shield

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I tried so hard to make it work

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:52 AM

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same

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:52 AM

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what why :(

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:52 AM

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it was my first aspect

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:I

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:52 AM

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no I was just saying that I was betrayed

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:53 AM

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oh

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lol

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:53 AM

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I even got sea storm on it once

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and still lost

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cause it's that bad lol

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they made it better this patch

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:53 AM

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chaos shield best shield

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:53 AM

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but still kinda meh

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probably yeah

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:53 AM

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i feel like aegis needs poseidon boons to be viable towards the end, all of it's power is in bull rush

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:53 AM

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chaos shield, merciful end DPS is great

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:53 AM

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merciful end on chaos? interesting

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seems kind of unintuitive

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usually you would put ares on the special

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if you're going ares on the chaos shield

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:54 AM

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yeah, merciful end is the duo boon

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:54 AM

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also how you gonna proc the duo on everything you hit

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:54 AM

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ath dash and/atk, ares special

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it's a little slow for sure

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:55 AM

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gonna be annoying to run around dash attacking things with the chaos shield

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:55 AM

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what's your preferred chaos build?

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:55 AM

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zeus

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on special

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then ares on special

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:56 AM

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wot

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how

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oh

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:56 AM

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I just don't think merciful end is worth it

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 4:56 AM

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okay, i just got chain lightning on attack with the rail an it's viable 😄

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:56 AM

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I see

manic ruin Sep 23, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Is rare crop worth taking in Styx?

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:56 AM

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defo

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:56 AM

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no lol

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:56 AM

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wait

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:57 AM

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you have so many boons

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:57 AM

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is it an encounter

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:57 AM

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and unless they're common you won't get anything out of it

neat rapids Sep 23, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Literally just picked up what I think you’re talking about and came here to post about how excited I was to discover it (divine flourish with aspect of Zeus), does that mean I just have a constant huge deflector zone that I can just leave out??

manic ruin Sep 23, 2020, 4:57 AM

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I think each room is an encounter

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Yup

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 4:57 AM

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noice

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:57 AM

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yes but it will only proc once or twice if you have a slow sack

manic ruin Sep 23, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Well, all the other boons are for cast, so imma pick this one up.

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Literally just picked up what I think you’re talking about and came here to post about how excited I was to discover it (divine flourish with aspect of Zeus), does that mean I just have a constant huge deflector zone that I can just leave out??
@neat rapids I'm not sure how often athena procs on special, but potentially

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I really like poseidon on zeus aspect cause you get to play ping pong lol

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funny to watch

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kinda like talos with poseidon

neat rapids Sep 23, 2020, 4:59 AM

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From the visual/sound it looks like it procs somewhere between 2-4 times per second

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 5:00 AM

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aww man

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oh yeah now that I think about it it's similar with adamant rail

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which kinda sucks

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 5:03 AM

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are the god boon keepsakes 1 time effective on the rarity of the boon?

wintry lodge Sep 23, 2020, 5:05 AM

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nope, always effective as long as you have it equipped

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1-time effect applies only to the "see the god coming up" effect

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 5:06 AM

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thank you

manic ruin Sep 23, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Holy damn, aphro call on a 25% is so broken in styx, I legit just charm the strongest guy and he kills everyone else

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 5:06 AM

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yup

manic ruin Sep 23, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Did yall know that Satyr poison does 1k dmg to monsters??

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 5:06 AM

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wow no, the satyr poison SUCKS with arthur aspect cos of the cast time on attack

wintry lodge Sep 23, 2020, 5:07 AM

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charm is pretty good, yeah

manic ruin Sep 23, 2020, 5:07 AM

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It legit oneshot the pink snake laser guy

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The miniboss one

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 5:09 AM

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im in a run right now and cant check, but does herme's dodge chance feather thing increase the rarity of his boons?

rare kayak Sep 23, 2020, 5:09 AM

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aphro call is really good even on bosses for disruption

fervent mural Sep 23, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Is there a cap for dodge chance?

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 5:10 AM

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good question!

fervent mural Sep 23, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Like I don't know of a way to see your total dodge chance in game right now

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And its very likely to have a cap. But is it 90% or something like 50%?

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 5:12 AM

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i say run the feather for us with a tried and true build and see how it stacks towards styx

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stacks at base 1% per encounter

dense star Sep 23, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Stupid question time, anyone got any advice on getting perfect catches in the fishing thing?

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 5:22 AM

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I don't think there is a cap, but it's multiplicative, not additive. So you can still get hit even with technically above 100% dodge rate

manic ruin Sep 23, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Where can I find the page for spear builds for new players?

rigid urchin Sep 23, 2020, 5:26 AM

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@dense star I don't exactly have a foolproof way to do so, but how I handle it is I try to focus on the audio cue for the timing. So I crank up the volume a touch and close my eyes and wait for the sound cue to play. It took me a few times to get it right but I can get perfect catches a reasonable amount of the time.

manic ruin Sep 23, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Looking to run spear but not sure with what

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 5:26 AM

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does anyone have any comments on the "rocket bomb" Daedalus Hammer upgrade for the rail?

rigid urchin Sep 23, 2020, 5:26 AM

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just remember that it'll fake you out at most three times in a row. If it does that, the fourth time is guaranteed to be a bite

dense star Sep 23, 2020, 5:27 AM

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^ oh that's a good bit of info to know on that bit of mechanics, cool

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Any chance you know the frame/time window you get for perfect catches?

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Getting a feel for how obscene my reaction time needs to be

rigid urchin Sep 23, 2020, 5:30 AM

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I wanna say it's like a quarter of a second, or up until the bobber just dips below the blood/lava/liquid air/water, but I have no clue as to the exact timeframe. If you've done it enough times, you'll get a feeling of when you've landed a perfect catch or a normal one

upper salmon Sep 23, 2020, 5:32 AM

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someone should probably unpin the outdated boon guides

dense star Sep 23, 2020, 5:32 AM

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Thanks for the assist, will see if it helps later. On another note, man EM4's a sweet fight

snow furnace Sep 23, 2020, 5:39 AM

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Where can I find the page for spear builds for new players?
@manic ruin https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2233472883 try this?

Steam Community :: Guide :: Newbie Build Guide

Simple guide with tried-and-true builds for every base weapon (without any upgrades) to get you started—from one of Hades's top players....

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that should give you a good idea

low grove Sep 23, 2020, 5:54 AM

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For the nemesis sword which hammer upgrade would be optinal?

small stirrup Sep 23, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Get double edge for maximum cheese grater

low grove Sep 23, 2020, 5:57 AM

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Currently got the choice between hoarding slash, dash nova and flurry slash

small stirrup Sep 23, 2020, 5:58 AM

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flurry slash

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Slap Artemis or Aphrodite on your attack and your set

stable grotto Sep 23, 2020, 5:59 AM

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So did they make the final boss sweep attack harder to dodge? I keep getting caught in the endges and when h e does activvate it im still in the circle even after two dodges and super quick reaction

rose iron Sep 23, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Said it once, I'll say it again. I LOVE THIS SHIELD. https://clips.twitch.tv/FrailAmazonianQuailTBTacoRight

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Seriously why is Dionysus so good with this thing?!

cunning urchin Sep 23, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Nope. His spin is still the same.

rose iron Sep 23, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Also am I the only one who prefers the Magnet Fists?

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Even if the magnetic part is situational but still useful?

small stirrup Sep 23, 2020, 6:03 AM

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was that a sub 10 seconds on Tis?

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Nice dusa

stable grotto Sep 23, 2020, 6:03 AM

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whats a good way to dodge the spin? It feels like if he does it and you're already close to him you just get hit

rose iron Sep 23, 2020, 6:04 AM

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@small stirrup Beowulf + Dionysus cast is insane.

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It melts and it never stops melting.

rigid urchin Sep 23, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Malphon has possibly the best selection of aspects all around. The magnetic special is pretty good in general, but the zag aspect pairs absurdly well with the Lambent Plume, and the aspect of demeter's special is one of the most satisfying attacks in the game

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Also am I the only one who prefers the Magnet Fists?
@rose iron i prefer them but dont have the final aspect so cant say if it'll stay that way

small stirrup Sep 23, 2020, 6:05 AM

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I'd debate that Passion Flare is better but hey Dio works it seems

rose iron Sep 23, 2020, 6:05 AM

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I'm not a huge fan of the final aspect because its gimmick is ||Make things take more damage but deal even more damage if they hit you||

small stirrup Sep 23, 2020, 6:05 AM

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It's pretty fun tbh

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I've had a blast with it

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The idea is essentially kill them before they kill you

rose iron Sep 23, 2020, 6:05 AM

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The moveset seems fun, but I'm not a huge fan of taking 50% more damage against certain enemies. I'm just imagining how much it hurts if you get smacked by Charon using that thing.

small stirrup Sep 23, 2020, 6:05 AM

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I like it dusa

rigid urchin Sep 23, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Malphon's final aspect special is pretty situational and also somewhat awkward to pull off, but the damage and range of its default attack is bonkers

cunning urchin Sep 23, 2020, 6:06 AM

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@stable grotto don't try to get out of the way. Wait for the right moment and i-frame it with an empty dash or with a Call.

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 6:06 AM

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malphon with range ups even just from the daedalus is stupid

small stirrup Sep 23, 2020, 6:06 AM

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still have to see if its viable at high heat though

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Have you given it a go Nyaan?

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What are your thoughts?

void fjord Sep 23, 2020, 6:08 AM

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lol me the fist guy, still havent gotten it

small stirrup Sep 23, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Lame

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So pathetic

dense star Sep 23, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Just unlocked final fist aspect, but it does seem amusing with doom special

void fjord Sep 23, 2020, 6:11 AM

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I havent gotten any final aspect lol

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even though i unlocked all aspects already

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i just want my baby guan yu in my hands

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 6:13 AM

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im pretty sure you need 5 titan blood invested and then some RNG

dense star Sep 23, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Admittedly I'm probably gonna continue to favor Demeter aspect fists cause man is that a fun delete button of a special when charged

void fjord Sep 23, 2020, 6:13 AM

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RNG will screw me anytime of the week

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aphro special with demeter aspect is the best delete button

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a heroic aphro is a literal god send

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i literally have a 5step program to potentially kill redacted (no EM) in 65 hits

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 6:38 AM

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yo guys

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does Hunter Dash stack with Attack boons?

rigid urchin Sep 23, 2020, 6:39 AM

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yes, but not the other way around. All dash strikes benefit from attack boons, but not vice versa

hollow sage Sep 23, 2020, 6:43 AM

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i'm confused what Dark Foresight is supposed to do

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it makes everything more likely?

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 6:43 AM

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decreases the chance of less impactful room rewards

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if that makes sense

untold vortex Sep 23, 2020, 6:43 AM

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higher chance for gold laurel rooms to show up; (ie. poms, obols, boons etc)

hollow sage Sep 23, 2020, 6:44 AM

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i don't think i ever noticed a difference between the icons lol

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would you say it's better than the alternative?

untold vortex Sep 23, 2020, 6:45 AM

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both are viable, it's personal preference

rigid urchin Sep 23, 2020, 6:45 AM

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if you look closely at the room rewards, some of them have blue laurels (darkness, nectar, gems, keys) and some of them have gold laurels (poms, boons, obols, centaur hearts). Blue laurels are things you can bring back to the house but don't really help you in your actual run, while gold laurels are things that will absolutely benefit your run but will go away when you finish it

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since the room rewards from blue laurel rooms aren't all that good, dark foresight helps you get more boons and max health and stuff so you get a better shot at winning a run. If you've already got a good stock of darkness, keys, nectar, or gems, it's worth it to invest in dark foresight

hollow sage Sep 23, 2020, 6:47 AM

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gotcha, thanks

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 6:47 AM

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i think it'd be really cool to have a keepsake/mirror talent that increased attackspeed or critical strike chance

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maybe not crit chance come to think of it, but it's a shame attackspeed can only be found pretty rarely through hermes, and even then its hard to feel the change

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 6:48 AM

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omfg I managed to beat ||Charon|| first try. Woohoo

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 6:48 AM

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congrats!! same thing happened to me yesterday

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enjoy the discount card and save for the temple!!

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 6:49 AM

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I also have an epic side hustle atm

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 6:49 AM

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how much is it giving? 😮

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 6:49 AM

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just about halfway through elysium

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+16 per chamber

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 6:49 AM

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niiice

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you got the % interest on each floor mirror talent?

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 6:49 AM

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but I also lost two Death Defiances lol

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yep

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 6:49 AM

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ooga

rare kayak Sep 23, 2020, 6:49 AM

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i wonder what the new keepsake does when you dont have any boons

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 6:50 AM

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what new keepsake 😮

rare kayak Sep 23, 2020, 6:50 AM

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its a secret

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 6:50 AM

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one of the stash things?

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i dont have any 😦

rare kayak Sep 23, 2020, 6:50 AM

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the pom slice every four rooms one

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 6:50 AM

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ohhh

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nothing is more satisfying to me in any videogame than high movement speed and attackspeed

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and it sucks that hermes rarely gives you impactful attackspeed bonuses (in my experience)

clear radish Sep 23, 2020, 6:52 AM

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I mean I've seen hermes give 40% attack speed a few times

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 6:52 AM

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that's a really high rarity boon though, that's the thing, and honestly on many weapons that attackspeed is not super impactful

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 6:52 AM

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@rare kayak oh pom slice levels up a random boon

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 6:53 AM

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you cant increase the level of herme's boons, right?

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 6:53 AM

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nope

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 6:54 AM

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😦

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my attackspeed boon is 20% and i have the rail with the attackspeed hammer

rare kayak Sep 23, 2020, 6:54 AM

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yeah i know it does but i was wondering what the new keepsake does when you dont have any boons

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 6:54 AM

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its fun but even with athena's 120% dmg increase its low dps

quasi folio Sep 23, 2020, 6:55 AM

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Cluster bomb delta chamber or targetting system?

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cluster bomb sounds great?

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 6:56 AM

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YOOOO

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wait a minnit, take only one boon in tart

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and then switch to new keepsake

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:)

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or maybe styx is the best place for it iunno

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 7:04 AM

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completing a run will never not be satisfying honestly

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i spent so long not being able to even reach styx

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finally made it happen with exagryph too

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first perfect catch

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im a legend

tough rivet Sep 23, 2020, 7:12 AM

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Did they nerf aspect of chaos (multiple shields after bull rush) bouncing?

barren otter Sep 23, 2020, 7:14 AM

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yes

torpid orbit Sep 23, 2020, 7:14 AM

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but i think they made less spread tho?

tough rivet Sep 23, 2020, 7:14 AM

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damn, feelsbadman

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thanks for answering

keen carbon Sep 23, 2020, 7:24 AM

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any tips on builds for rama bow?

void fjord Sep 23, 2020, 7:31 AM

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either focus only on attack or special

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a good rama attack build for me is aphro with explosice shot hammer and twin shot

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cause then it becomes a melee build

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also since they buffed the speed of the bow charging, i think its better

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 7:35 AM

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tips on lucifer?

low grove Sep 23, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Quick question, do attack bonuses apply to dash attacks as well?

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 7:44 AM

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yes, but not the other way around

low grove Sep 23, 2020, 7:45 AM

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Alright thanks

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 7:55 AM

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man

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||lucifer|| has reaffirmed my dislike of the gun

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 7:56 AM

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why's that?

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 7:56 AM

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it's just very poor

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 7:56 AM

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in a bid to unlock lucifer i've come to enjoy it

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 7:56 AM

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iunno

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 7:56 AM

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you need the correct gods to make the gun viable

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that's the thing

small stirrup Sep 23, 2020, 7:56 AM

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@fervent wave There is a very prominent visual and audio cue that plays whenever a chaos curse expires. The signature chaos sound effect plays with and it briefly appears to your left to show it has evolved. Zagreus also comments on it changing very frequently. Stuff like "My boon from chaos has evolved" or "A curse of chaos has expired"

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You can also always check the encounters left on the curse since it is always shown when its active

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 7:58 AM

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and for how many more encounters. you can also check to see what you've gained in the 'B' Menu

fervent wave Sep 23, 2020, 8:01 AM

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high chance i am just ignorant xD, thanks for letting me know

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 8:01 AM

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i cant get ||the interaction with zeus to play in order to unlock Lucifer||

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i hate it here

small stirrup Sep 23, 2020, 8:02 AM

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You sure you have all the requirements?

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 8:02 AM

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i have a lot of ||titan blood on the rail, more than is neccessary||

small stirrup Sep 23, 2020, 8:03 AM

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And ||Guan Yu acquired?||

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 8:03 AM

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aye

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first aspect

small stirrup Sep 23, 2020, 8:03 AM

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Well a simple way to farm his dialogue is to equip his keepsake and keep dying in the first room

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 8:03 AM

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megamind, i'll turn my death defiance off

small stirrup Sep 23, 2020, 8:04 AM

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Turn on RI 4

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And HL to the max

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 8:04 AM

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what does all that mean 😮

small stirrup Sep 23, 2020, 8:04 AM

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Oh those are acronyms for the pact of punishment

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Routine Inspection and Hard Labour

rugged oyster Sep 23, 2020, 8:05 AM

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cool, thank you!

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 8:08 AM

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yep

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no idea how to build luci

dire nacelle Sep 23, 2020, 8:11 AM

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Hello! I am new to the game. Bought it 4 days ago and I don't quite understand how the boons work. I saw the pinned post with the boon trees but I still don't get how it works.
Let's say I encounter Ares first and choose One of the 3 boons. In this case Blade Dash. Then on the next Ares encounter, do I get to choose between Black Metal or Engulfing Vortex? Thing is every time I encounter him, he gives me one of the same boons from the left side of the tree. Which would the be "starter" boons.
And when do I encounter a Duo Boon? I've stumbled across this but I don't know how I did it. Sorry if this has been answered already, I just don't quite understand this yet.
Thank you for whoever replies to me!

livid comet Sep 23, 2020, 8:12 AM

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no

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Boon choices are randomish

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The boons that can appear from a god depend on whether you've met prerequisites for the specific tier of boon