Thank you.
#h1-builds-and-combat
versed bloom
Oh
Basically it randomly selects X amount of your boons depending on the rarity of the perk's own rarity
And reduces them to common rarity
After 3 encounters those same boons are upgraded to the next rarity, up to heroic
It's essentially like a chaos boon except it takes a lot longer to fruit
coarse lily
Can we give Artemis ambrosia or did I waste all my nectar lmao
tepid ridge
I believe she is one of the gods that has a story that has to be evolved through gifting in this build of the game so I don’t think it’s wasted, but then again I haven’t seen it myself.
languid storm
Do boons have a max level?
tepid ridge
Usually god’s stories are progressed by gifting to a point and then getting certain duo dialogue right?
@languid storm I don’t believe so, they have max rarity (heroic) but I’m pretty sure there’s no level threshold. The returns are just diminishing after a certain point. You get less every level.
coarse lily
dammit
I saw that in the wiki you could. are they planning to give every NPC an ambrosia option eventually?
earnest ravine
You can give her some, yes! That was update before last.
It's currently Zeus, Artemis, and Aphro. Nothing wasted at all (though don't expect a lot of gameplay rewards for it).
scenic lodge
Yes you can give her, though you have to keep talking to her until a specific dialogue before you can actually start giving ambrosia.
languid storm
finally got my first clear
cunning urchin
Congrats!
languid storm
is there going to be more after clearing when the full release comes?
cunning urchin
Yeah.
lethal crane
Been playing a bit with a controller while farming darkness, what opens the boon menu by default? Also is there an option to see the binds while a keyboard is also connected? It shows me my keyboard binds until I change a bind.
dry ember
I think select does it for me on XBox controller
cunning urchin
The "select" button, yeah. Whatever they call it nowadays.
dry ember
As for options to see binds, maybe try connecting your controller again? I never had that problem tbh
languid storm
yeah it's def select
lethal crane
I see the binds of my keyboard, there's no actual choice to switch to the view
languid storm
is there a condition you need to meet before you can meet thanatos?
lethal crane
I think he showed up only after I cleared the game
But it might just be Elysium
Anyway, kinda fun playing with a controller for chill runs
Even though I never use one for any game
But I saw so many people use one for this game I figured I'd try
dry ember
I met Than after the Hydra so when you reach Elysium? You definitely don't need to clear the game to meet him though.
languid storm
That's weird, I haven't met than once in like 20+ hours
dry ember
Huh interesting
He appeared quite early for me.
Demeter took a while though
Just after my first clear in fact
dry ember
Actually you might just need to reach the surface
dry ember
Yeah not sure what's going on there
Maybe someone else can help?
The keepsake he gives is a good one too...
lethal crane
He is a random encounter, and if it can only happen at Elysium you might be out of luck just for now
languid storm
Wiki says it can happen in any room after you take damage
dry ember
Well, just take damage then you noob
Clearing without being hurt
Who do you think you are
real nebula
how does the +20% darkness buff on certain weapons work when changing weapon? does it just jump to one at random after a run is finished?
real nebula
yah, I might just be getting unlucky, feel like its only gone from the shield to the railgun.
lethal crane
I was just aiming for the last legendary boon for my prophecy :D
So anyway, I started blasting...
dry ember
Yee, that's the stuff
grave compass
Im impressed you got fully loaded - still non existent for me
lethal crane
Took me 200 runs
Literally
110 clears
or so
And I had to use mirror talents + keepsakes
to make sure i have more chances at it
very annoying, never again
languid storm
Finally got than
his opening line was related to escaping so I think it's a condition
lethal crane
Gratsu
coarse lily
artemis is the only way to go
real nebula
oh, to the guy who was looking for fully loaded for 200 runs, this is like my 30th run total and I haven't been looking for it lmao
coarse lily
hopefully when the game fully releases it translates our steam achievements automatically
pliant palm
The good things with Artemis is that it pretty much works with any weapon
Btw, I wanted to ask, what's the best way to farm Darkness ? Would like to get more of the dice c: Go Poseidon for Ocean bounty, take all the Chaos gates available ?
grave compass
Ive never really put much standing in ares doom, but it definitely just made elysium so much easier
Nice to just set it on a shade and leave it it die before it can respawn
weak rivet
@pliant palm yep!
pliant palm
I felt like Ares was OP when I started playing, but now idk, the scaling just seems bad...
west totem
Oh its the dude from ngu idle
pliant palm
Trying to find about good core for rail without spreadfire... was thinking something like :
- Zeus on attack
- Artemis on special, good damage + enable support fire for maybe later
- Dio on cast, duo with Zeus + give a bit of value to the Zeus/Artemis duo, I guess
- And then try to get Demeter if possible on dash or call, both the duo with Zeus and Dio are excellent
(I still don't know how God room RNG works, so idk how realiable it it to get most of those boons, but it seems like a nice build)
grave compass
Poseidon rail is pretty fun - you can also pair with zues
Or demeter rail and aim for that 10 chill blast
flat brook
i'd swap artemis and demeter around. if you spam dash with the rail, artemis adds a lot of damage, and at least i don't really use the special, so demeter is just there to give ice wine
but yeah, other than maybe posi + sea storm i think zeus on no hammers rail is the best attack boon
mystic vale
Fated Keys improvement: What's it give +1 to? The icon is too small for me to make out.
flat brook
+1 "dice"/charge to either fated authority/persuasion if you have them unlocked in the mirror
flat brook
it is indeed
cunning urchin
@pliant palm I'm confused as to what your strategy with that build is.
I would maybe do:
Attack: Lightning Strike
Dash: Hunter Dash
in that order. And then in any order:
Special: any epic/none
Cast: any that sticks a bloodstone in
Call: any/none (priority to Zeus probably)
mystic vale
I'm still confused on how people pre-plan their builds. I can't seem to ever get the deities I want to spawn, much less specific boons.
cunning urchin
Hammer upgrade: focus on attack
Main DPS would be dash-strike and attack. Special for pre-casting on enemy waves/bosses. Cast for sticking into bosses/tanky enemies. Call just for extra damage.
Greatest Reflex would be priority #1 from Hermes.
steep pewter
@mystic vale Did you use deities gifts? You can change them after each boss so at least three chosen gods will apear.
pliant palm
@cunning urchin Strategy is to win c:
cunning urchin
You can equip the God's keepsakes before a run and between biomes to force the next God that shows up to be that God.
And you can use Fated Persuasion to reroll what boons that God offers.
That way I always get Divine Strike from Athena in Tartarus when I use Malphon, for example.
pliant palm
I want artemis somewhere for support fire, but not in attack cause it's already usually what I go for sword/Spear
cunning urchin
Sometimes I'm lucky and don't need to reroll, sometimes I'm not.
peak iron
Nothing feels better than getting a +3 greatest reflex from hermes and becoming the fast
visual dust
anyone know what counts as "distant"
causse like for spear and bow it seems so inconsistent
pliant palm
So I'm thinking if I take artemis on special, what do I want on attack, and it's either dio or zeus, cause of the attack speed
Could take something like aphro for the damage, but idk, I'd rather do different build than the "slow" weapons
mystic vale
I'm still trying to even get Artemis's gift. She hasn't shown up for six runs or so. :p
pliant palm
Aka aphro/artemis/athena, things like that
mystic vale
My favs so far have been having access to Jolted, Weak, and deflect. Privileged Status is fun. :p
pliant palm
So it's more "a build that use the fast attack speed and without spreadfire"
But dumb questions, does hunter dash affect the boons on your attack ? So does it do anything for Zeus/Dio/Ares, or is it just the damage from the actual hit
cunning urchin
Hunter Dash will buff your attack further and also give you a chance of getting Support Fire later to buff your attack even further.
visual dust
What is a "distant" enemy? like anyone know how far they need to be away?
cunning urchin
@visual dust sorry. You can check that on the wiki, it should have distance values for hammer upgrades like that.
visual dust
ah sweet
cunning urchin
@pliant palm Hunter Dash, like any +% damage bonus, is only multiplied with the base damage.
visual dust
man they should have distant as one damn value
for spear its essentailly spear tip, for the bow its almost off your screen
pliant palm
Figured as much
peak iron
Aight, so, I'm trying to roleplay as Sasuke Uchiha while I play this game, mainly going for Slicing Shot cast with the duo cast from Artemis for the Shadow Shuriken energy. My big questions are what I should use for the rest of my kit to maximize the roleplaying value.
Fists of Malphon with Zeus boons for the chidori, or does he end up using a sword in the show?
pliant palm
Full darkness boon from Chaos, for the full edgy teen roleplay
cunning urchin
Sasuke uses a sword, yes.
peak iron
Obviously we only take the darkness boosts from Chaos, no matter the downsides.
lethal crane
@pliant palm - as someone who loves the rail, but not using spread-fire often, the best non-spread rail is SPECIAL rail with the +60% aspect
Go for Art / Aphro on special
triple special + 5x bomb
or 5x bomb + rockets
pliant palm
Like i said, I know that's strong
lethal crane
are MAD damage
lethal crane
As long as you land decent hammers for the special
Anything % based is good
Just not the knockback
pliant palm
And Zeus/Dio are only really usable with Fist/Rail
lethal crane
unless i get the right attack hammer
i go dio with normal bow
and kite
but that's me
i don't like the bow charge-attack
pliant palm
Hmmm
lethal crane
at all
lethal crane
same
if you can get hermes +% speed on bow special
its soooooo goood
can kite for days
cunning urchin
Chiron lol.
lethal crane
using dio or zeus
cunning urchin
I don't see Charon taking up a bow anytime soon.
lethal crane
and i use it with special mostly
aphro / art / demeter
even athena or posei
work well
lethal crane
5x rocket spread (100 base dmg) with posei
was my first game clear
last boss died in seconds
160 base dmg + chaos boons / x 5
and posei %
30% extra dmg on boss
madness
lethal crane
ROFL
i don't mind ares on attack if i get hammers for special
just to have extra dmg around
but yea
visual dust
for like anything isnn't the best boons, not ares
pliant palm
But ye, I start having trouble with my Heat climb on Rail, yeah, I'll prob switch to a "classic" build with Artemis/Aphro
lethal crane
actually i recently found out that ares' aid is my favorite call
immune to dmg and deal good dmg
viscid vale
i just discovered the aspects. I also like how the 20% darkness bonus gives you incentive to try new weapons, i'm doing an adamant rail atm
peak iron
Ares aid with the boon that increases damage for the amount of time you consistently hit feels So Good.
I just like seeing big numbers.
viscid vale
but i guess my fav combo remains stygian sword with reflect dash and health drinking attacks
lethal crane
even without any extra boons its just good to be able to avoid all dmg for 2.5 secs and deal 1k at the same time
cunning urchin
Curse of Pain is actually really good on Chaos Aspect.
cunning urchin
And it can be alright on the bow special.
lethal crane
i think they shoulda made the ares/aphro duo tick for the same amount rather than 25%
pliant palm
There is what, 1 duo that affects it, and no legendary ?
cunning urchin
I expect Ares will receive quite a buff before 1.0. So I'm not too worried.
pliant palm
Btw, is it a general consensus that Chaos aspect is OP ?
lethal crane
for me it isn't, but shield is op defensively for sure
the only OP anything atm is spread fire i think
cunning urchin
It's one of the strongest aspects for sure.
peak iron
Chaos shield with reflect dash makes you nearly invincible. You can turn your brain off on high heat and clear rooms with any boons.
lethal crane
you don't need chaos aspect for that though, any shield does that
chaos just spreads the fire
pliant palm
Well, yeah
lethal crane
but yea it is strong no doubt
lethal crane
i've yet to try zeus aspect properly, only recently found out just how strong it can be - did not realize until my 200th run you can cast your special while holding the defense
pliant palm
(tbh I don't know, only lvl1 for me, not my priority to upgrade)
viscid vale
i'm having trouble in the last biome, specifically against poisonous foes...the little rooms with poisonous rats are killing me at top speed, do some of you have advice for a new player ?
i started on sunday
peak iron
If you get poisoned, drink from the little mangrove pools to be not poisoned.
lethal crane
and yes, the pool clears it
pliant palm
Poseidon dash c:
peak iron
Mandrake, mangrove, whatever you want to call them
viscid vale
yea, i found that, but is there a strategy, apart blocking with the shield when you have the shield, to avoid getting poisoned in those little rooms crammed with poisonous mobs ?
I was hoping to do a successful run with the sword but i get wrecked in here
pliant palm
Don't go on the poison ? Idk, the hitbox is pretty forgiving with the poison
From my experience, at least
viscid vale
maybe i dash too much, i cannot escape poison enough
cunning urchin
Make sure you have extra dashes from Hermes, and be more aggressive against the rats. The longer you wait before you attack them, the more poison will be on the floor.
Cancel the end of your combos into dash strike if necessary to keep them in hitstun.
viscid vale
i don't know if i can "deflect" poison
cunning urchin
Spam dash-strike if you need to keep groups of enemies in hitstun.
viscid vale
ok ill try that
cunning urchin
This is just more general advice, I don't know what weapon you're using.
viscid vale
poison is my biggest enemy i'd say, it depleted 2 lives i had in mere seconds
so far i mostly use sword and shield
i'm trying to use more rail and spear but 'im less efficient
pliant palm
With shield you can just bull rush trough the poison
cunning urchin
Sometimes the best thing to do is to just wait until they move when there's too much poison beneath them.
pliant palm
And with sword yeah, trying to keep them staggered + a lot of dash strike
cunning urchin
Also don't panic and dash into traps when you get poisoned.
Trying desperately to find that pool.
In the smaller rooms when I get poisoned, I just keep attacking actually and dash right to the door when it opens.
Poison doesn't carry over to the next room anyway.
peak iron
Try giving the Broken Spearpoint keepsake a try if you haven't already. I'm psure it can trigger off the initial hit from the satyrs, and it gives you free time to go drink some cure on top of being an excellent keepsake all around.
turbid hawk
Do you believe that after using Ares's call end of the duration you may be unguarded to foes as i noticed ?
cunning urchin
Yeah, it could use a grace period when the call ends. Maybe in a future patch.
viscid vale
i think i panic too much, i dash everywhere and get more and more poison and lose time
when it's a small room with lots of mobs + the falling axes it's a hellfest
forest mountain
Does Last Stand have an effect if I get it while still having full (3) Death Defiance?
turbid needle
Just buffs any DDs that fire from that point onward.
Ares > Starts with a higher skill floor than the other Olympians in exchange for having unquestionably some of the best builds in the game
Playerbase > Ares sucks, he needs buffing.
forest mountain
Got it, thanks
peak iron
Ares is obviously the best god, since he's the only one that lets you become Sasuke Uchiha
turbid needle
But he doesn't use fire or lightning.
peak iron
Slicing Shot + Double Cast = http://puu.sh/FJtiH/c6be49f541.jpg
turbid needle
That was the other one, but it was at the start of Naruto. Still works, I guess.
peak iron
That's the OG sasuke
turbid needle
Yeah, why am I complaining, it's when Naruto's writing hadn't gone off the deep end.
peak iron
Before it became the new dragonball z
turbid needle
I love you.
That is my exact criticism of both Naruto and Bleach.
But we're getting off-topic.
cunning urchin
I'm curious what those "unquestionably best builds in the game" are.
peak iron
I love me too 🙂
turbid needle
Merciful End and Hunting Blades are "some of the best builds in the game."
cunning urchin
Slicing Shot kinda sucks though without Hunting Blades. It shouldn't need a duo to not suck. Same as Crystal Beam (which still kinda sucks with the Duo, though).
turbid needle
High skill high reward.
cunning urchin
I can't agree at all.
turbid needle
Then we're at an impasse and since neither is affecting either's ability to play we shake hands and continue on our paths.
cunning urchin
What weapon do you build towards Merciful End besides Chaos Aspect?
peak iron
I think one of the most fun runs I ever had was getting crystal beam with improved tracking and one or two chaos boons for damage
Drop three of them and just laugh while everything melts
turbid needle
Literally anything besides the bow.
With Explosive and Piercing Fire on the Rail you've got easy AoE and extremely rapid application of Doom if you get lucky and have Divine Dash.
Sword is super fluid and you can combo from Attack or Special into Attack, Special, and Dash.
Spear is Attack-only unless you have Multi-Skewer.
And Malphon also is Attack.
cunning urchin
Curse of Agony + Divine Dash on Malphon?
turbid needle
If you had something insane like +50% Special speed on Coronacht (I don't even know if that's possible) you could use Curse of Pain and Divine Dash to rapidly apply to groups and detonate.
Yes.
cunning urchin
Hmmm. I'll try that sometime.
turbid needle
I hope this gives you a new appreciation for Ares's kit.
cunning urchin
Heroic Swift Flourish is +38.75%.
pastel solar
I'm excited to try new kits when I unlock new weapons, currently just using the cursed sword crutch
cunning urchin
I don't know. I'll have to try it first.
pliant palm
https://prnt.sc/sfehrn pretty fun run, spread fire is really damn strong
rugged estuary
So apparently, my regenerating cast decided it didn't want to regenerate any more
lament coral
make sure you 
that!
pliant palm
Who needs a cast anyway
dry ember
Hey all, this is probably a super moon question, but what does the little selection icon in the boon tab means?
dry ember
If I may take Caelestas screenshot as demonstration
rugged estuary
@dry ember It lets you pick which boons show up in the middle
so you can take a screenshot with the ones you want to show off
dry ember
I see. You still get access to other boons right?
It's purely for "screenshot purposes" ?
cunning urchin
For screenshots or if you want to quickly add up your +% damage and such.
@pliant palm what happened to not using Spread Fire? lol
rugged estuary
@lament coral Apparently, the cast just got loaded into my bow when I thought it hadn't. I'm an idiot.
lament coral
rugged estuary
been too long since I played hera
whole dagger
Like more story combined with more dungeon levels then others little things
From title there is two things l will explain. More story is going onto surface and continue the story of the prince.
This links in more dungeon levels and referring as regions like underworld has 4 distinct ones. Then on surface, l guess there can still be levels to play like on earth. Then reach to heaven and more levels on that. Maybe expand the dungeon levels in hell/underworld since there is only 4. I believe there can be more.There can be a save point so you can quit game and get back into it so you dont have to go through all 4 bosses at once.
Want the option to fight every single god for fun, also the dog, instead of giving it food. So it is like another mini game option that wont be part of story. Or alternative story mode. I dont want to just fight hades, l want to fight other gods, both good and bad, just to see what abilities they can do.
With god mode, l wish there is a setting for damage reduction, not starting at 20 then slowly increase to 80, l wish you can set it at 20, 30, 40 etc to sort of balance it. I feel l die to easily at 20 which meant nothing and believe l become too strong at 80, would of wish 50-60 option to stay there.
I like the replay value with pact of punishment. there is some that gives new abilities and perks to enemies, l would like further expansion on that to make enemies more interesting. also definitely new kinds of enemies too.
l made a review on 11th and starting playing on 9th, 30hours in those days, really proves l like your game. I kinda reach end stage where it is just adding more heat(replaying) hence making all this suggestions.
peak iron
Just did a run where I got 5 casts, crystal beam, ravenous will, urge to kill, rapid fire cast, and when I got to the final boss I'd just drop all 5 lasers and it would do approximately 3k damage per flurry of casts
Sometimes more with the duo boon that added crit chance on deflect
Crystal Beam feels pretty good man
cunning urchin
I dont want to just fight hades, l want to fight other gods
@whole dagger that's the spoiler. Just best to be safe.
whole dagger
oh, but you know you gonna fight him anyways?
mystic vale
Sure-footed build best build. 💯
glad island
I got a damage build yesterday : double arrows, exploding arrows, critical damage level 4, attack critical level 3
Got some 1.2k hits
I got my first evasion with that
minor valve
yknow, i've had about 20 or so runs, and i've never had a run that felt like a "bad" run
which is
really incredible
every single run feels like an opportunity to beat the old man
pliant palm
@cunning urchin I mean, the game proposed it to me before I even got any attack boon... wasn't going to turn it down x)
mystic vale
Feels like I've done more than 30 runs.
pliant palm
I kinda wanna try a high-heat run with shield, just to see if it's doable
pliant palm
I'm only at 6-7 rn tho
Except bow and spear, but i don't really like playing with those
13 ambrosia saved, still no bouldy companion... :c
visual dust
i jumped from 6 heat to 8 to 16 now xD
i want those ||skelly statues||
excalibur op
pliant palm
Yeah, big numbers c:
I really wanna try aspect of poseidon one of these days
But I'd rather level up the bow before
mystic vale
I want to make it past Elysium. ^_^
pastel solar
Titan Blood is supposed to upgrade weapons in a sense? I can't find anywhere to use them, anyone got a quick tip?
visual dust
you unlock the ability to do so later on
pastel solar
By beating ||Hades|| or is it another way
If the latter, I would rather find out myself haha
visual dust
I cannot remember honestly
delicate nimbus
@pastel solar yeah you need to beat the game first
pastel solar
I already did though
dry ember
Wait you don't need to beat the game first to unlock Titan upgrades.
Cause I beat it first time with Zag Rail
I think there is a specific requirement you need to do. Googling might be your best friend here.
delicate nimbus
I could totally be wrong. It could just be a number of runs as a requirement.
proud storm
i think you need to unlock all weapons but i'm really not sure
delicate nimbus
This is a hard thing to look up in the code. I need to either find the diaglogue that happens when you unlock it, or I need to find the interaction point in the map data file
dry ember
Yeah unlocking all weapons might be it.
novel echo
@pastel solar wasnt totally obvious to me, but interact with the spot after you select the weapon
unkempt pagoda
y’all, discussion of #hades-feedback is meant to happen in this channel
dry ember
Cause I vaguely remember seeing the option after unlocking Rail
unkempt pagoda
please don’t discuss within the channel, to keep it clean
pastel solar
Got it, thanks all, and yeah I'm not too sure if this should be in the gameplay or the discussion thread lol
cunning urchin
Just read the channel descriptions and check the pins.
mystic vale
Hrrm. Guessing the way to go with Malphon is Divine Strike since it's rapid fire...
cunning urchin
That's pretty strong, and I like it. There are other effective builds, though.
visual dust
is it just me or is Excalibur the big stronk?, I haven't tried it on 32 heat yet though so it might be too slow
cunning urchin
Excalibur is good.
visual dust
I find it so easy to build around since you can take like any good damage boost or just artemis attacks and 1 shot most things
dry ember
The description says gameplay and we were talking about unlocking Titan upgrades
But whatever
cunning urchin
No no, that was about the people who were having a discussion in #hades-feedback instead of here.
mystic vale
Rolling Knuckle, Draining Cutter, Rush Kick. Hrrm.
cunning urchin
Rolling Knuckle.
mystic vale
Really? I was thinking that might dip me in the drink in Asphodel.
dry ember
Ok lol. One person replied right below me so I got confused.
mystic vale
Nice damage spike on it though.
cunning urchin
Rolling Knuckle adds a dash strike (base damage 35) with +60% damage at the end of your 5-hit combo. That lets you just hold your attack button down and attack without a break.
That means instead of canceling into dash-strike yourself at the end of your combo to keep up the damage, you can just hold attack down, get extra damage on that dash-strike, and have all your dashes to evade attacks.
That dash-strike from Rolling Knuckle will also get extra damage from Hunter Dash, if you have that.
proud storm
yes
glad island
Is unlocking the aspect a random thing?
unkempt pagoda
wdym
mystic vale
I'm guessing Vintage Nectar is probably more important than Administrative Privileges? Or does that unlock something more awesome than it sounds like it would?
cunning urchin
It's not random. You have to unlock all weapons first.
After that you can spend Titan Blood to unlock other aspects. 4th aspects have unique requirements, though.
glad island
I mean the last aspect
mystic vale
"Under construction" means it's still under development.
This is, after all, early access. :p
cunning urchin
Check the pins in #h1-story-discussion for the 4th sword aspect.
mystic vale
Or at least, that's what it sounds like.
cunning urchin
Don't remember what to do for Aspect of Guan Yu, except you'll need to talk to Achilles. After a run with Achilles Aspect, I think?
errant narwhal
Mhm, some aspects are not yet in the game. Legendary aspects for spear and sword can be unlocked through talking to certain characters after investing some titan blood in weapons
the next update will have some new aspects IIRC?
cunning urchin
@mystic vale Administrative Privilege is required for some story progress. Vintage Nectar helps your runs more immediately.
glad island
Ohhh
cunning urchin
Just get either, honestly. You'll get more Diamonds soon enough.
I think they said 1 new aspect is planned for the update in June.
errant narwhal
tepid ridge
errant narwhal
Screenshot from the trailer for the last update
unkempt pagoda
well item for specials pls
lethal crane
Oh man, Charon got a nice look to him
tepid ridge
My boi Charon with his paddle and Van Helsing hat
lethal crane
LOVE IT
peak iron
What if they pull a bait and switch and it's actually Miyamoto Musashi
He killed a guy with an oar that one time
glad island
Isn’t that Hecade?
tepid ridge
Well you hear Charon’s groan in the trailer when that card pops up
cunning urchin
Roland Aspect.
glad island
Like witch and magic? magic
lethal crane
roland aspect for rail
GIEF
it whispers to you like chaos 'I do not aim with my hand; he who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father'
omg i want a roland aspect
naive tusk
I hope the "Aspect__s__" is not a typo so we get more than 1 new Aspect 
glad island
Is the ambroisia any use in the current state of the game?
cunning urchin
It's gonna be for the Twin Fists, and they'll be like, "Well, it's technically two gloves, so . . . aspects."
cunning urchin
Bruce Aspect.
glad island
Thanos aspect
cunning urchin
"Your attack range is only 1 inch but instakills all enemies."
lethal crane
if you collect 5 colors of boons you kill all bosses when touching them
glad island
Also are running build not too op?
lethal crane
running build?
glad island
Double dash and damage dash boon
lethal crane
i don't think it is
it's fun
honestly nothing should be considered 'op' for a single player game
lethal crane
i think the highest damage potential is on the railgun, and highest defense is the shield
so i find it hard to consider dash-build to be OP
tepid ridge
If you use Artemis and dash attack boons for it, then they are really powerful, usually builds that center around Ares’ blade dash etc are more meme/challenge based.
lethal crane
i make dash builds when i use bow cause i suck at using it
ares / posei / zeus dash builds can be really fun
glad island
Bow can be super hight damage
lethal crane
i've done nice runs using those
bow can be insane BURST but i don't feel it can beat the total DPS of the rail
glad island
With artemis boons
lethal crane
maybe its cuz i suck at it
glad island
Triple booming with the rail then running to safety
cunning urchin
I'm pretty sure casts have the best single-target DPS potential. Blizzard Shot can shred every boss in seconds.
lethal crane
oh yea
my 200th run was finally artemis legendary boon
with bliz-shot
5x bliz shot on poor bosses
lethal crane
just change keybind and build around them ❤️
whatever i use as my main attack i put in my attack bind
and then build around it
glad island
I m using a controller
lethal crane
can still change the binds!
glad island
True
lethal crane
for me its more curcial
glad island
I just don’t really like it
lethal crane
i do keyboard only for movement
tepid ridge
For my KBM friends, Casts are on q key for me and Rmb is my special.
lethal crane
and then mouse binds for my attack/dash
left = attack / right = dash / extra button for special or cast depends on weapon/builds
cunning urchin
Spread Fire is the fastest at clearing rooms, though.
glad island
Spead fire?
glad island
Ah yes
lethal crane
insane damage
tepid ridge
That hammer could easily go under the radar imo until you realize how to dash strike and then immediately attack so it basically retains its previous fire rate
glad island
But charging the main attack give you heath back
cunning urchin
And any shield is the best for surviving high heat because block negates all damage.
tepid ridge
Guan Yu is the most unique of the spear aspects but I think I prefer the reliable modifier of Achilles aspect
cunning urchin
Chaos Aspect being the strongest of the shields because it can apply DOT to pretty much an entire room with one special.
glad island
Also how do you rise the limit of the heat?
cunning urchin
You need to clear the game once to unlock the Pact of Punishment.
glad island
I ve already done it
lethal crane
@cunning urchin - i was thinking, since i can handle everything up to the last boss pretty easy unless i mess up or get unlucky, that Zeus aspect will be my go to shield. Just stand there guarded and release specials and catch them back.
And go with normal attack build until then
glad island
But the limit is at one
lethal crane
Chaos requires you to repeat a loop of attack/release to use
But zeus can just stand there and deal damage
pretty mad
magic dagger
you have to clear each heat to unlock the next one for each weapon
lethal crane
You get rewards each time you increase the heat by 1 on each weapon
glad island
So it’s a limited per weapon ?
cunning urchin
Oh, you can go above heat 1. It's just that you need at least 1 heat to get bounties with a weapon that you've already cleared on heat 0 with.
cunning urchin
EM2 FO2 is always faster than going lower with either.
No waiting for respawns, no waiting for Hydra invincibility.
cunning urchin
I hate timers in most games, but in Hades it's fun.
cunning urchin
I always forget to give Chaos Ambrosia though because I just immediately dash at them and press R1 lol.
lethal crane
i mean 9 mins at least is free points 100%, 7 mins leaves the last 2 biomes sometimes stressful
SEE
no fun
missing out dialogues
even though dialogues freeze the timer
lethal crane
Oh yea
cunning urchin
I also still go fishing on TD2.
lethal crane
yea fishing is fine
cunning urchin
Although half the time I'm out of the room before the ding lol.
cunning urchin
It's not free.
Not robbing Thanatos means failure, and I must do better next time!
lethal crane
xD
he stops the timer and gives me free heart
i can even relax and stop killing mobs mid-way
cause i already have him beat
just move to the side and let him finish
he likes it anyway
worst case you get the room's reward without timer
best case free heart
cunning urchin
I guess I'll just skip heat 21-31 if there are no rewards.
grave compass
Not even out of Tartarus yet and they're already making me choose - plus the posedion and zues boons were epic - this could be the run
https://imgur.com/EEd86ov
Also got my first Scyllascion which is my favourite old greek reference so far - never even knew these existed so i was stoked 😄
grave compass
Oh yeah i know - next room was the whole pom/shop decision so immediate pay off
Then just add zues keepsake and aim for the duo agai
grave compass
Nearly ruined it for myself with a bad chaos boon closer to the hydra than expected
Had a small room that was just flame wheels and soul catchers which was really obnoxious
But ive made it to styx at least 🤣
viscid vale
gg ! that's already rly great !
grave compass
Also zues and poseidon have abandoned me after i rejected that duo 🤣
Luckily athena and aphro got my back
grave compass
True but id already started the sea storm build by this point so athena not really adding a tonne
Basically Aphro Hazard bomb is life
Oh wait... rail cant stun lock
Rooms are full of snakes... think we'll be cutting it close to wire here
Athena has let me down unfortunately
Styx wrecked me and im down to 1 dd, she had 2 chances to give a dd boon and instead I got: God Gauge, Resist Traps, Deflect deals more damage (not a deflect build), or replace my epic flood shot with her shield...
Took god gauge and the extra deflect but thats dire
Yeah... 5 losses in a row to hades now and im only on 3 heat FO
I just cant seem to get through his swing, it's frustratingly wide
quick adder
@grave compass Dash in a circle around the edges. Grab an extra dash or dash drift from Hermès if possible during the run. When you see the white circle appear around him, get clear. Then after the sweep, get in close and attack hard. You have about 2-3 seconds of free time there. In stage 2, some of his slashes are a 3-slash, so beware.
grave compass
Yeah will try that
I do however think his swing is wider than the standard 2 dashes
Generally I dash straight through him (as ive been told before) as his momentum should take him forward too and that gets you out of range... but occasionally he doesnt move forward, and then despite the double dash i get hit
Its minor but i do think his reach is excessive if youve gotten unlucky with hermes
magic dagger
I always go sideways instead of through, and I spam dash even if I only have two, and I almost always get out
grave compass
Sideways sounds like a good inbetween
I think some of it is visualising it too - does anyone have any YouTube or twitch recommendations for people who actively play the game?
Id be interested to check them out and actually see the techniques in action - otherwise its hard to imagine people beating 32 heat runs so nonchalantly
rugged estuary
Did somebody say damage?
The flying cutter wasn't good, took too long to charge, but it sure made for big numbers
a charged demeter special without battle rage hit for 2500
I had pressure points, and while I didn't catch a screenshot from it, I am pretty sure I hit a 9k crit on the big styx rat
it just evaporated
lavish gate
I'm usually too busy panicking to notice, do hangover slow curses stack with chill slow curses?
arctic ginkgo
Hi, before I ask about this in tech support, does anyone else experience the bow sticking when they release the mouse button? Like Zag hasn't fired the shot, but your finger is off the trigger
lavish gate
need to do more testing i guess
arctic ginkgo
bows out, shots charged but not being released
i do have some issues with him not taking the bow out too
rugged estuary
Have you checked if it's your mouse / a sticky key issue?
arctic ginkgo
How would i check that other than using it?
My mouse seems to have been fine all day, but if there's a better way to check?
I don't often play bow, but i havent noticed an issue with the other weapons
primal plank
Arthur aspect hits like a truck
In Theseus fight i had only Chill Special, Crit Attack & Marked One
the fight lasted literally 40 seconds
versed bloom
Arthur Aspect is super strong all around
I’d use it even if it reduced max health like Guan Yu
ember pond
Has anyone attempted where Zagreus and the final boss could die at the same time on the previous patch note? I'm really curious how that turned out
lavish gate
I've done that on the first boss, but never the last
versed ibex
That keepsake from Charon that gives +4 rooms to all things you buy from the well--does it apply to stuff like the yarn of ariadne, or the chaos gate? Do you get more than just one instance of those?
turbid needle
No, those burn themselves on one charge normally.
snow copper
So I've heard there are companions, but don't know how to unlock them. Do I just keep giving people nectar?
naive tusk
@snow copper ||You keep giving them nectar then advancing their story until a notification appears with additional hearts being unlocked. You will get a companion next time you see them after you gift them some Ambrosia.||
snow copper
Ah ok, thanks @naive tusk
spare zealot
Does anybody actually take erebus gates tho?
I don't even know why I bothered unlocking them from the contractor tbh
cunning urchin
I do.
spare zealot
too much risk for me
play perfectly and get a larger reward, or throw away a chamber
cunning urchin
I got two in Tartarus the other day for an easy +100 HP.
spare zealot
tartarus almost becomes worth it for me, most of the chambers are like, darkness or gems. so thats a "basically nothing" chamber anyways, especially if I'm starting with the purse keepsake. but meh, I'll still choose the guaranteed coin or small HP+
cunning urchin
I've tried one in Elysium which was butterflies and a Gigantic Gorgon Head. So I don't know about that one lol, need to try more.
lament coral
Erebus is fine on lower heat levels with ranged weapons
once you pump up Forced Overtime or start using melee, that's when they become a waste of time and HP
Benefits Package is a problem, too
they really need to rework Erebus
cunning urchin
I dunno, the ones I've done were fine with Malphon and FO2.
lament coral
you've ever done one with teleporting witches with homing projectiles?
or a bunch of grey shields
cunning urchin
Teleporting Witches with homing projectiles sound alright with Malphon and Divine Strike.
Not as fun without Divine Strike.
I've only done up to 20 heat, anyway.
eager scarab
Cursed slash is great wow
Look at that -60% HP debuff Is scary for sure, but being able to Regen with each attack Is great considering that's pretty much all you do lmao
Especially with a Hermes attack speed upgrade
dense locust
it's also fun with athena call
lapis matrix
It is good
turbid needle
does cursed slash heal for a dash-strike?
dense locust
yeah
lapis matrix
Get the other upgrade that allows you to hold your attack button
cunning urchin
-60% HP is harsher when everything does +100% damage.
eager scarab
Yeaah I bet it is
lapis matrix
I don't doubt it
eager scarab
I'm not that high on heat yet so there's still some enjoyment to be had lol
lapis matrix
Since it might wipe out your health bar
eager scarab
Could get one hit easily yeah
cunning urchin
Well, you can get +100% damage from enemies with 5 heat.
lapis matrix
I still need to finish a run with Spear and Sheild
Not if you start out on hell mode
Which I did
cunning urchin
Ouch.
languid storm
Aphro-Dio-Ares too
cunning urchin
That sounds like a fun combo.
lapis matrix
It should probably save it after the boon I think
If not it should give you the same choice again
languid storm
we'll go check, I might skip out on the trove considering it was the tiny awful chariots...
normal orbit
Ugh. Late Elysium. Choice between Hammer and Double Boon Room.
Going Hammer because I'm low on health.
lapis matrix
Hmm, if you start the game on hell mode you apparently lose out on 30 Ambrosia, 30 Diamonds, and 60 Titan Bloods
lament coral
nah, the heat just goes to 25
you only lose 0 heat rewards, so 12 bloods, 6 diamonds, and 6 ambrosias
lapis matrix
That still sucks
lament coral
tru dat
lapis matrix
I wouldn't mind if they were an extra reward for clearing the game with each weapon then
If you start on hell mode
cunning urchin
Longspears are literally the cheapest enemies in the game.
lapis matrix
Oh?
cunning urchin
Nontelegraphed attacks with way too much range that deal a lot of damage. They can dash-strike you from off-screen, and you have no way to react. I was just in a room with Longspears with slow aura with Malphon. Nothing I could do once I got stuck in that aura.
naive tusk
Thank goodness I'm not the only one who was feeling the same way about that Puller perk!
languid storm
Hey, how does one become a member for feedback?
cunning urchin
Check the pins in that channel.
Wow, 3x Fated Persuasion on Athena, and 3x she offers Brilliant Riposte. 
That's some RNG.
viscid vale
I'm starting to really like the shield, even more than the blade. It's fast (at least the non-Zeus aspects), you can both attack & defend, and the fact you can send many with Chaos Aspect is rly satisfying
having something you can send away quickly and that always precisely comes back bouncing on everything is satisfying
- it's very recognizable, with the decorated orb
i have no problem spending to improve the shield, but in comparison i feel the blade / other weapons aspects are a little less fancy
lapis matrix
Shield run finally done
viscid vale
which is the best aspect for the shield ?
neon fiber
Chaos is pretty useful for burst damage or piling up status effects, aye
lapis matrix
I think I made a mistake on playing on hell mode
neon fiber
Don’t be a coward
March through the pact
Also hilariously enough Hell mode can be useful for farming titan’s blood and whatnot if you have the Pact from the start
viscid vale
I don't understand, what are "status effects " ?
and i don't see a hell mode :/
oh ok i read the wiki
you've got to start a new save
lament coral
@lapis matrix it's only hard early on
viscid vale
don't you get tired of clicking tho. I've been playing 27 runs since sunday and my finger is dying
lament coral
you can hold the button with some weapons but yeah, it does get unpleasant
which is why one should take regular breaks, do anti-tunnel syndrome wrist exercises
you don't wanna bust your hand, that's forever
viscid vale
you're right
there are weapons where you click far less, the glove for instance
malphon
dash + special is a great attack
but i wanted a change
and man having to multiply attacks with the shield is deadly
grave compass
I know its not gonna be the most powerful build but i reckon imma try a chaos chield with ares on special for a lil fun one
Advice for other boons if i can get them? Was think Aphro attack to try for curse of longing, maybe athena if i can too for the other doom duo 🤔
scenic grove
gray lintel
@arctic ginkgo amusingly Athena has the cold feet boon
(she has reduced damage for traps which, for lava, increases the time you can stand on lava without b urning it seems)
dry ember
I can't beat the game with meelee weapons lol.
I got it a couple of times with both rail and bow
But no luck on any of the meelee ones.
arctic ginkgo
@gray lintel thank you for telling, I feel confused yet enlighteded
cunning urchin
@grave compass Curse of Pain is really strong on Chaos Aspect, actually. Go for Merciful End.
Curse of Longing imo needs a buff or rework.
stuck lintel
is there a guide of abilities somewhere?
delicate nimbus
@stuck lintel there's a gamepedia wiki you can check for all boons.
stuck lintel
oh cool thanks!
grave compass
@cunning urchin ayyyy thats great thanks 😁
In that case then yeah ill focus more on athena duo if i can - i thought doom on split shields could work
mystic vale
Is it just me, or does not every diety that gives an attack/special/cast boon give a dash-attack boon?
tepid ridge
Most Olympians don’t offer dash-attack boons. Chaos does because they’re chaos and Artemis does because it fits into her vibe.
grave compass
Every diety has one for each - not necessarily dash attack but always a dash boon, call as well
tepid ridge
Most Olympians do offer a dodge-related boon however that effects your dodge passively. Artemis trades off, she doesn’t have a boon that affects your dash, it affects your dash-attack instead.
mystic vale
I find when I'm using the sword or spear I'm dash-striking 90% of the time anyhow to stay out of various AoEs.
So I keep having trouble with those because getting a boon that helps my attack or special only helps me out very rarely.
And I usually only cast with the bow (because I'm adding it to my attack.)
grave compass
I think attack boons also help dash attack
tepid ridge
Boons that affect your attack affect your dash attack too.
delicate nimbus
dash-attacking = attack boon bonuses
mystic vale
Huh. I'm not sure I've seen that in action. Or is Divine Strike's deflect an exception?
I seem to take plenty of damage dash-attacking with the sword.
delicate nimbus
Well yeah dash-attacking lets you be vulnerable
dashing = invulnerable
dash attacking not invulnerable
tepid ridge
Pretty sure you would have to hit the projectile/attack with the actual swing hitbox. It doesn’t make your dash a full deflect dash. Athena has a boon for that.
grave compass
You have to actually attack the thing you want to deflect i think is the bit where they differ
Deflect dash - the dash animation deflects, deflext attack - the attack animation deflects
So yeah you gotta slash the projectile
delicate nimbus
oh i see what he means now
mystic vale
Ah, so I need Divine Dash and Strike...
delicate nimbus
No you can have one or the other
divine dash makes a reflecting sheild around you when you dash
grave compass
Not necessarily both just got to make sure you know which one you have so you know how youre deflecting
delicate nimbus
Divine strike puts a reflecting hitbox on the hitboxof your attacks
mystic vale
Yeah, but I need both if I want my dash-striking to make me relatively safe for the entire dash.
delicate nimbus
Uhhh yeah I think that's a reasonable assertion kinda
I'm not super familiar with the i frames of dashing and divine dashing I think someone in here probably knows how it works
cunning urchin
Dash is already invincible for much of the duration.
delicate nimbus
doesn't divine dash increase the iframes too?
mystic vale
I'm used to the bow and the shield distance attacks. :p
grave compass
If you just want to be safe for the dash then you probably just need divine dash
mystic vale
Basically I want to not die with the sword at the end of Elysium when I'm getting double teamed up close and from a distance.
cunning urchin
It essentially does increase invincible frames but only for attacks that can be deflected.
mystic vale
And the sword came up at my purple weapon for this run.
delicate nimbus
The elysium bosses both have vulnerable periods you can attack them during
cunning urchin
Just hide behind a pillar when Theseus throws his spear.
Or do you mean the Exalted?
mystic vale
Looks like I can a good combo with Athena/Artemis. Bonus points if I can get Divine Protection since it will fulfill a prophecy.
delicate nimbus
Also once the bull does 2 swings, he's vulnerable for a little time, but he's especially vulnerable after his 3rd attack you can get a full combo off on him when he does that
Another trick is that a lot of the dash attack boons leave aoes where you were
you can lead the bull into them for easy damage
viscid vale
My finger is dying with clicks to attack imma have to attack only with special lmao
i rly need a strategy against poisonous foes, they DESTROY me
cunning urchin
You can attack him between swings too, and most of Asterius's attacks can be deflected.
viscid vale
i tried defending and special but its not that effective
delicate nimbus
with the rats, there's some spacing you can do to stay out of their poison. Also don't try and dash through the rats dash around them
viscid vale
yea they're tricky as hell
cunning urchin
Try to keep them in hitstun as much as possible.
delicate nimbus
with the satyrs they're easily the most annoying enemy in the game. You can dash towards them with good timing during their poison dart attack. Dashing tangential to them makes you vulernable to a side dart. They attack in a 3 spread pattern.
Rats are easy to backstab too
cunning urchin
I'd take Satyrs over Longspears.
I've cleared rooms of FO2 Satyrs without getting hit. I don't think I've cleared a room of FO2 Longspears without getting hit yet.
grave compass
Snakestones or longspears for me
Snakestones theres only so many you can stunlock at once (or heaven forbid, no stunlock rail)
Long spears just have a habit of doing damage so quickly i swear i miss the animation sometimes
hazy yacht
good run https://i.imgur.com/4GmA7at.png
i goofed at the end tho
lost 3 lives to hades
cunning urchin
92 minutes? Did you go afk?
cunning urchin
Cool that you can get a title for that too.
hazy yacht
yeah lol
cunning urchin
That looks like a fun run. Congrats!
cunning urchin
Hunter Dash and dash-strike a lot. That's been the only fast run with the bow for me.
hazy yacht
i thought zeus build would be really good with the bow
but it has an internal cooldown 
(the lightning bolts)
stuck lintel
I'm having tons of fun with rocket crit build 😄 (artemis perks with aprhodite weakening + crit dmg)
primal plank
Does the Exagryph Special hammer upgrades (the 3 and 5 bombs) stack eachother?
late flint
uhm.. i kinda have a weird moment, i`m stuck on fishing
grave compass
6 in a row to hades now on FO... getting embarrasing
Had a really fun ares chaos shield going too that i wanted to show off but unfortunately i just cant beat that swing 😪
languid storm
Finally got a stygius kill on Hades, admittedly it was entirely from the full Artemis casting build with the legendary boon but still
cunning urchin
4 aspects per weapon, yes.
dry ember
For a cast run with Hera bow, what is a good keepsake to start with? Ik Dionysus for Trippy Shot is one, but would Artemis a good one also?
kindred matrix
artemis is decent if you have good RNG
mystic vale
Man, screw the sword. Every other weapon, I'm up to the last boss. Still can't clear hydra with the sword. Keeps me too close for his head pounding attack.
kindred matrix
@mystic vale try ares sword + athena dash
languid storm
The artemis zeus boon would be really good with the Hera bow
Yeah for the Hydra you just have to wait for it to head pound before you can beat on it
kindred matrix
you can abuse iframes from athena and the duo makes athena dash proc ares instantly
mossy breach
@primal plank no, you can only have one of them
primal plank
oof
languid storm
Also I cleared hades with Exagryph on 1 heat before I did it on no heat.... I gotta backtrack now
cunning urchin
@dry ember anything not Crystal Beam can work.
mossy breach
Ares is also not very good with hera unless you get the artemis duo
mystic vale
Once I've unlocked the mirror (30 key level) and weapons, am I done with keys?
dry ember
What is wrong with C Beam?
I would keep some keys just in case you can trade in for Blood Ambrosia Diamond.
I think 15 keys per
At least that's how my last trade went.
cunning urchin
It just has no synergy with Hera Aspect.
languid storm
I gotta say the Athena dash seems to be in a class of it's own in comparison to the others
cunning urchin
If you want to make some waves, you gotta pick Tidal Dash.
mossy breach
deflecting in general feels super good. I love timing phalanx shot to deflect hydra projectiles
dry ember
No no, why make waves when you can steal the waves from the enemy
It's about sending a message
languid storm
lol
dry ember
Yeah but like, that is a F* u to the enemy. Effective but cliche.
languid storm
Someone mentioned cast oriented hammer upgrades and I think Aegis' should be something like your special prioritizes targets with bloodstones
dry ember
Dash is like a big NO U
languid storm
THough tsunami dashes are fun
cunning urchin
Chaos Aspect can hit everything in a room at once, pretty much. So that wouldn't do much.
Maybe for the other shields, but you can just aim those yourself.
languid storm
Repeated bounces against someone you've targeted though, or like following them in zeus aspect
mystic vale
I know I had a neat run with Second Wave combined with Poseidon's Dash, Thunder Strike, and some skill that removed KB from the shield's attack, but let it hit twice. Hammer upgrade.
restive solar
Did everyone that just said Hera mean Demeter?
Oh wait no I’m dumb
They were referring to the bow aspect, mb
languid storm
Does anyone know the conditions for the transformative weapon aspects? So far all I've found is guan yu
unkempt pagoda
the instructions for the other 4th aspect currently implemented is in the pins of #h1-story-discussion
by a dev, too!
languid storm
ahh okay, so far I guess it's only the 2 then
unkempt pagoda
there's confirmed at least one 4th aspect coming in june
hopefully multiple, that'd be fun
hazy yacht
dang, another excellent run
this time with the bow
lv10 epic drunken flourish lol
still a slow run but bow is slow what can ya do
cunning urchin
My early runs were all like that.
I haven't seen that title before. Any idea what you did to get it?
cunning urchin
So just the number of total purchases that run?
hazy yacht
I did make a large number of total purchases
I don't recall spending more than 400 gold in one trip
cunning urchin
Did you buy something at every shop?
unkempt pagoda
i think it's based off total gold spent
tepid ridge
They must’ve bought a good deal to have that many poms I would think
hazy yacht
I don't think I bought something at every shop.
but I might have.. I made a lot of shop trips this run
mystic vale
What's the key to making Exagryph not embarrassing? I assume Artemis's little shot that fires when you attack figures into it. I'm hesitant to spend bloods on it because it seems like it would need a lot of them to benefit much. Seems boons would be more useful.
I've tried Thunder Strike before but that only seemed to help a little. :/
grave compass
Posedion is pretty nice on the attack as you can push back enemies making up for the lack of stunlock
Also dio and demeter can easily stack up due to high fire rate
tepid ridge
I would try Demeter. Slows enemies down and she has some upper-tier boons that could really help ya out
grave compass
Yeah the decay and 10 stack blast can really turn a run around
mystic vale
Aphrodite, Poseidon, and Zeus were my first three to pop up.
Sea Storm could get hilarious.
grave compass
Early pom duo isnt bad either if you get lucky
Tomorrow plan is to go hera bow with aphro to see how that spread damage does at range
My experience with aphro cast is its great but the range nerfs it massively- should be fun to see the difference
mystic vale
Heh. Delta Chamber. Muhahahaha.
mystic vale
Finished Tartarus, saw Light of Ixiom, switched to Chaos Egg. Going to have double Slothful Flourish. Now I just want hammer for that triple bomb.
languid storm
is fated authority bugged? every time I use it I get another key and more authorities
naive tusk
You mean you get another FA after you go into the key room and pick it?
Or you get another FA after a key appears as reward for the next room?
naive tusk
No bonus as far as I know
lapis matrix
You lose out on some resources actually
mystic vale
Man, I'm tempted to try Hazard Bomb, but with as many + damage mods as I have right now...probably better not.
Other options are Rocket Bomb and Explosive Fire.
With Tempest Strike, L4 Heartbreak Flourish, Thunder Dash, Delta Chamber, L2 Slothful Flourish, Static Discharge.
If the slow effect from Explosive Fire counts as a debuff, then Privileged Status would be happy. If not, the Rocket is +40 base damage and I don't have to wait for it to arc.
393 damage rockets. :x
433 under Privileged Status. Me likey.
versed bloom
Also
I like the fact that if you fill the heatgauge as far as it goes the game says "Great, you made the heat gauge cry, happy???"
hazy yacht
improving my time https://i.imgur.com/3iXEyiW.jpg
mystic vale
Exagryph + Sea Storm may be a new favourite.
magic dagger
I was just fishing in asphodel and I had two pools of lava spawn on top of me.
So I just lost a death defiance
while fishing
shrewd brook
finally managed to finish a run with a spear. nothing impressive. had 50%DR from God Mode. But for a scrub like me it's an achievement https://imgur.com/LJfYtV2
delicate nimbus
You didn't buy deep pockets yet?
I honestly find the extra gold to be VERY useful for getting boons early to push your power faster
shrewd brook
what's the total cost of it? I kinda forgot about it and started investing in rarity buffs
hazy yacht
first shield clear https://i.imgur.com/MmOxI8j.jpg
mighty ermine
@shrewd brook maxing out deep pockets is real cheap iirc, especially with the several thousand spare darkness you've got
shrewd brook
yeah. several thousand haha
mighty ermine
wait i had a moment, i'm sorry
was looking at the total from what you've used on the mirror lmao
in any case, it's not hard to get
shrewd brook
alright. gonna max it out right after my next death
delicate nimbus
I think maxing deep pockets is cheaper than the first reroll might be wrong though
Use a key to respect and try it out trust ms
viscid vale
yesterday i said "do people here really use the bow ?" well now i'm one of those peeps i guess. When your fingers grow tired of spamming clicks for attack, the bow and the twin fists have some very good specials...So I guess I really appreciate the bow and the fists now. Although I wish the bow aspects were better
i nearly did a full run with the bow, never had touched it before
as usual i got wrecked in the poisonous rooms in Styx
shrewd brook
I'm struggling with the bow right now haha. About to get my ass kicked by the last boss
versed bloom
main thing with the bow is that there's a lot you can do with it
but most of it will amount to
space m1 space m1 space m1
viscid vale
the bow lacks some punch id say, so its not godlike to me, but the special while dashing is very satisfying, especially when it deflects or hit hard
i don't use space i use alt x)
id say the bow is kinda hard to master, i did the bosses quite slowly, and its troubling to NOT BE at all effective at close range bc all other weapons work pretty opposite
except maybe the rail
viscid vale
my thing with the bow was boosting the special and doing dash + special most of the time, + I had a "continuous click attack" don't remember the name and it was boosted with aphrodite weak effect
and deflect dash
- deflect special. It was hilarious
i might love deflecting too much
i didn't use the cast a lot but i had sth on the cast, it wasn't too bad
tidal hawk
My last run the game literally tried to give me special damage increase the entire game
I was so sad
To see epic boon that I didn't want
viscid vale
lmao i can relate, for me its the dash stuff i tend to rarely get
but this time i had athena trinket
shrewd brook
got clapped. at least I got him down to laser phase. considering that I had no good boons and no cohesive build I think I got far enough. and now I crossed sniper and perfect shot off of the prophecy so I don't ever have to pick them againj
viscid vale
my favorite weapons used to be sword and shield, now i guess it's gonna be bow and fists
shrewd brook
not for me 😄 I'm terrible with the bow
tidal hawk
HOW
shrewd brook
for now
viscid vale
i nearly lost against Theseus though. my bow special and dashing was not that effective against him. Fortunately i had Poseidon"s Call which transforms you into an unstoppable juggernaut of damage
viscid vale
yea, suck it Theseus
shrewd brook
my biggest problem with the fight and the bow are the summons. so tanky