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#h1-builds-and-combat
livid comet
rotund wagon
damn it really be like that
livid comet
I wonder if we get to fight narrator-san at some point
turbid needle
Im at 40 hours and I completed the game about 13x so far
opal bay
In fight against Narrator you just fight against menacing png of Logan.
livid comet
to beat hades for the first time
lament coral
took me about 20 hours, I believe
turbid needle
Can I see those stats somewhere guys?
lament coral
did it with maxed out Zag shield
rotund wagon
damn the narrator really do be in kahoot with hades
it really do be like that sometimes
is joke
turbid needle
My well says: 49 escape attemps and 12k monsters slain but not how many succesful
unborn trellis
yeah its a bit unfortunate we dont have a single good compendium of all the stats
turbid needle
I think it is somewhere I just forgot where
jolly dirge
I mean. Due to ongoing renovations can you say any of us truly escaped?
opal bay
Only on endscreen you can get a count of how many wins you got
turbid needle
oh
unborn trellis
and on aspects screen for each weapon
rotund wagon
damn that is some lampshade hanging
opal bay
It is speculated and suggested we get some sort of ending
lament coral
we'll probably get the ending before 1.0
they'll sit on it for a month, refine stuff, and then leave EAC
opal bay
On 1.0 I think will be the ending
rotund wagon
54 attempted escape
gloomy vine
Sorry if this has been asked a million times already but I couldn't find the answer from searching online. For the keepsakes that say "The next Boon you find will be from X" why is it that if I swap to one of those keepsakes in between regions the next boon is not from that God? Does it only work on the very first boon of the run? If that is the case I feel like the wording is a little misleading.
sudden flume
All works fine, Hermes is exception.
gloomy vine
That doesn't answer my question
sudden flume
At least for me it works every time. Sorry.
proud storm
it works 100% of the time but if hermes appears he has priority over that
it's actually intended
what with him being the god of speed and all that
unless you actually equipped the, say, athena keepsake and another olympian that isnt hermes showed up
then thats a problem
gloomy vine
So, to give a concrete example. Lets say I start with the coin purse. I beat the first boss and then change to Owl Pendant. I would expect the next orb to be Athena. So the next orb is always going to be Athena unless it is Hermes? Is that right?
proud storm
yup
gloomy vine
Alright, maybe I am just mistaken or misremembering so I will play some more and see if thats what I get
proud storm
but athena should be the next to appear if hermes is first
dense locust
I assume Delta Chamber nullifies Aspect of Hestia for the Rail
dense locust
Oh intreresting
Does explosive fire work do Hestia damage in AOE
That was poorly worded
teal nebula
Hello i have trouble to use spear (first aspect)do you have any tip ?
dense locust
It works
teal nebula
The charge is slow , i barely use it
frosty pier
about charge.
You can charge it and release after dashing.
Also dash cancels recovery animation
teal nebula
Ok i understand
proud storm
there are hammers that reduce spin charge time or increase its damage and size
teal nebula
You cant charge while dashing
proud storm
no
teal nebula
Ok thanks
proud storm
if you really want to stay mobile and still hit hard you can look out for the serrated edge hammer
it makes your dash attack hit three times but it's going to make your dash a bit shorter
teal nebula
👍
dense locust
Does divine dash work with blinding flash?
Im confused because it says attacks that can deflect, but attack in this game usually refers to a specific damage type
mossy citrus
if it dosnt say it replaces something, it stacks
dense locust
What I mean is does divine dash count as an attack that deflects
mossy citrus
no. attacks are your LMB only
dense locust
Well that makes me wonder why they are offering it in the first place then because the only deflect I have is on my dash
mossy citrus
Im thinking they replcae each other but Id have to look it up
gaunt quarry
do ppl really consider poseidon boons bad? they're pretty awesome sometimes
dense locust
I don't really consider them bad, getting 6 dashes with huge percentage to wall damage and that boon that deals big damage when you wall smash destroys almost everything but bosses for me
mossy citrus
I think so too.. Prefer aries or athena though myself, sometimes artemis and most of the time ill get atleast one hermes if I can
yeah posidons dash when leveld is strong
wanton fractal
Is blinding light the exposed boon? If yes then yes dash does work
gaunt quarry
my best runs at the time were with poseidon dash, second wave and wall damage. also if you get Hermes +3 dash in a row you can murder almost everyone in styx since the rooms are so small
dense locust
They should consider their rewording that because Attack means something specific in this game
wanton fractal
I think they also want to keep the text concise in the game.
And its a reason for experimentation
dense locust
Ive got some combo now that melts enemies and I think its curse of agony, divine dash, and merciful end, on top of some doom boosting and maybe blinding flash
livid comet
and I ended up building a merciful end because ares and athena kept showing up together
dense locust
With the rail and dash attacking
gaunt quarry
my best time is 28 minutes
gaunt quarry
also on 4 heat by the way
gaunt quarry
Stygian blade with mainly poseidon boons also had good hammers
But I don't quite remember
livid comet
hm.
dense locust
That's the problem I have with time on runs, i spend a lot of time fooling around
livid comet
Sword is the only weapon left that I need to finish a run on
tips for a nemesis build?
gaunt quarry
skipping all cut scenes and not switching keepsakes helps with time significantly
livid comet
keepsakes help me finish runs tho
and tbf I usually know which keepsakes I'm gonna use
so flurry attack, aph attack on nemesis?
gaunt quarry
I used to switch them for god boons but now I use either broken spearpoint or the butterfly
gaunt quarry
at least it's still a spearpoint 
dense locust
So its hard to say right keepsake choice for me. I still use it for the 3rd biome
I also dont want to spoil anything
ionic blade
Hmmm
dense locust
Do you have all of them?
ionic blade
favourite keepsake...
timber turret
does anyone know how to unlock the fishing rod cuz it doesnt appear in renovations
gaunt quarry
I have all keepsakes and nearly half of them level 3
ionic blade
Butterfly is nice, but problems are that it doesn't work in the river, and you have to keep it for the entire run
gaunt quarry
the river?
ionic blade
of styx
dense locust
Okay so I usually save the extra life for hades, borken spearpoint for the 3rd boss, extra gold for the 2nd, and ive been digging the chaos one for the first
timber turret
ahhh okay thanks
dense locust
but chaos can be so unreliable
gaunt quarry
chaos is good for the first biome yeah
ionic blade
I looove the chaos trinket
nimble wraith
i always use bracer for floors 3 and 4
unless i dont have any deaths defiance left, in which case i take the tooth
gaunt quarry
is myrmidon bracer even that good?
rotund wagon
myrmidon bracer is cool I guess, since most of the time you will be facing your enemy anyway
if some enemy manage to outflank you you could dash away
gaunt quarry
yeah but you have to always keep an eye on whether any enemies are behind you and it may be difficult with large hordes of enemies
also how does it separate back and front? does damage from the sides count?
frosty pier
You have a backstab damage of your own
I'm pretty sure it its just that but applied to you.
turbid needle
Myrmidon bracer is nice, but I figured that the god boons are the best
And broken spear at temple of styx
Maybe if you are lucky the butterfly and amazing gameplay might be best in thoery tho?
livid comet
aaaa
I finally cleared it with all the weapons
now sitting pretty at 14 blood
:)
sacred folio
congrats
livid comet
ty 😄
sacred folio
shield would be my blood farming weapon at this point
sacred folio
so consistent and free of nerfing for now
sacred folio
casting bow always feels awkward to play for me
livid comet
Maybe I should max Chiron next
sacred folio
Charon's bow is a lot more comfortable
livid comet
So max chaos shield, chiron and achilles spear next
sacred folio
It's like point blank shotgun blast, but at a long rang
livid comet
and the hestia
sacred folio
*range
sacred folio
u2
turbid needle
Any good gods I should target if Artemis isn't very willing. I have dionysus alot as well but already used both their keepsakes
jolly dirge
Ares doom and Ares spinny blades are both pretty decent.
turbid needle
hmm Alot of people are positive about Ares but myself, I havent really seen Ares shine yet but that's me
I think Aprho is worth picking for defensive reasons too?
sacred folio
yes. Also, Aphrodite's boons could work both individually and synergize with other gods'
livid comet
Ares has to be built around
livid comet
special
turbid needle
honestly Dio with stuff like positive outlook and less damage while in festive fog are really defensive too!
And apro for weak and less damage taken
Deflechting attack imo
Cause charging up is an attack move
livid comet
attack can also be nice for bull rush but special is more useful imo
ionic blade
festive fog is nice, but it mans you miss out on a whole 50% damage cause it doesn't stick in enemies
ionic blade
come to think of it, I'm using the extra specials aspect
So deflecting special sounds awesome
sacred folio
IIRC bull rush is immune to attack anyway so no point getting deflect attack
turbid needle
Nice, found blackout, enemies in festive fog take 100% inc damage
OMG YES
14 life left beat hades, The timer ran out, my build was bad but I did it!
It´s so hard that a call doesnt protect you from time out damage
ionic blade
uh oh
150 hp theseus
ooh
finally got posiden's call again though
nvm
87 hp
this is not looking great gonna admit
nvm, this is a super tanky build
Killed Minotaur, and theseus is at half, with no damage
Yeah bois
11 hp
Me whenever I beat Theseus:
karmic coyote
the red shade is entertained
jolly dirge
The red shade is great.
karmic coyote
i'm glad Zag can interact with the red shade somewhat now
ionic blade
wait WHAT
i need to see this next run
I'm totally gonna keep up my streak
I have 4 death defies, 300 hp
extra death defy health, and all my attacks and specials deflect
i've got this
oh yeah, and the best call in the game
oh my GODS i love deflect so much with the shield
bull rush esentially makes you invuln with deflect, so dodging hades' swipes is easy af
my damage is actually quite lacking, byt i'm so tanky it doesn't matter
noiuce
100 damage first phase
karmic coyote
bull rush is always like that though even without deflect
ionic blade
oh rlly?
huh
feel like I should have noticed that by now
annnnd we gottem
still, it makes the skulls a million times easier to deal with
karmic coyote
next time pick doom for special
ionic blade
I probs would've if i'd gotten ares
karmic coyote
just use gods keepsakes, those things are the best for this kind of game because you practically manipulate rng
ionic blade
I would, but i still have to get posiden's
so when I get his, I'll have all the trinkets, and be able to pick and choose at my leisure
ooh, blade rift casts...
nah, doom on special is a bit better
ooh, artemis call
not gotten hers before
0_0
uhh...
Weird
turbid needle
@karmic coyote It's also good trying to get a build that depends less on rng
Someone else on the board for once
frosty pier
@ionic blade did you just implied that you turned down blade rift and then went with Artemis anyway?
ionic blade
wdym?
frosty pier
Ares/Artemis duo is busted.
ionic blade
oh, right
Well, i can pick up more ares stuff later if I need to
oh mah GAWD yes
support fire is soooo good
dense locust
Bow special and support fire? does every arrow spawn a support fire arrow?
turbid needle
Nice! caught my second fish in chaos area
ionic blade
yeah
turbid needle
Yea @dense locust
ionic blade
it's really nice
eah arrow triggers any on-hit effect, like debuffs
I got a chill special and cold blast with +4 arrows once, it was nuts
ionic blade
niiice
dense locust
with chiron and a 2 damage boost from chaos
two different damage boosts for special
trying to decide between epic pressure points and rare support fire
turbid needle
Somehow I pity the murder murder sister
ionic blade
I'm actually surprised by how not annoying Dusa is
Her voice seems like it'd get annoying, but i dunno, it's kinda annoying to me
turbid needle
Any good tips for theseus?
I am having a love relation with her Kappa
I have no issues with Asterius.
The duo fight?
Indeed
It depends, a good build steamrolls both
As far as tactics go
If you focus on the bull first y ou will have less trouble dodging the calls after you hit 50% theseus
Use the pillars to dodge his spear
yeah. It's all his spears.
ionic blade
Yeah, i strongly reccomend going after bull first
turbid needle
The bull is pretty easy.
ionic blade
His three hit combo can become predictable wqith experience, and you can dodge under the last jump to easily avoid it
I usually find the most success with a keepaway strategy on theseus
turbid needle
That makes sense
ionic blade
shy away behind pillars, and go for occasional long-range hits wheever you can
turbid needle
It's very hard to flank him
ionic blade
he has long wind ups and recoveries, so you can usually hit him then
Yeah, his invuln range is massive
jolly dirge
After he throws his spear and it returns, he walks away from you with his back turned
So that's when you can strike
ionic blade
He spends a while walking doing nothing though, which is good if you're using the sword, or your dps is close-range
turbid needle
I will watch for his turn and use the rail gun
lament coral
@turbid needle pretty sure that's still Thanatos with a different hairdo
the collar and cloth are the same
dense locust
Man the chiron aspect bow with the right boons and lucky chaos boons can be insane damage...
jolly dirge
For the most part Theseus is patience, at least with my playstyle.
turbid needle
How much is insane damage?
turbid needle
I am asking cause, my perspective of insane damage shifted the last 2 days LOL
ionic blade
just did the last 1/3rd of the hydras hp
karmic coyote
insane damage is killing a hydra head with 1 blow
verbal tinsel
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/795384284539066618/6E4F3E7CF42ECD4D370845B63024D92EBA4A7894/ That was too close, but i finally did it, love that hera's aspect
turbid needle
No espagnol but I fancy the colors 😛
lament coral
Hera with Artemis cast and bouncing attack?
do you lose damage after the first target is hit?
turbid needle
WP! 😄
woven hill
Hehehe, everyone's in a ||Groundhog's Day loop|| lmao
I can finally farm rare resources 🤩
I've found that the best way to utilize Spread Fire, at least personally, is to use its dash attack, since its normal attack rate is far too slow.
And then you get two bursts, also
verbal tinsel
Zepp, it is artemis Cast. Yes it loses damage on the second hit, but i had triple shot, so basically i would hit an enemy 1 time with the main arrow and 2 times with the -50% ones
ionic blade
ohhhh yeahhh
You know what I love most about this game?
The combat
but you know what I love second most about this game?
How it tastes
the Flavour
lament coral
I see. I was hoping the arrow would go through all enemies and the cast pop out of the last one
ionic blade
Seriously, this game is probably the most flavourful I've ever played
lament coral
would've made for a sick wombo combo
ionic blade
oh mah gaaawwd
and the red shade supports you because he's wearing RED
ok, they need to make some hades-flavoured tea, because if they don't imma end up licking my computer screen because of how much flavour this game has
verbal tinsel
Yeah, that would be pretty strong. Guess i'll not do another 32 heat run again with the bow, had to press 3 times the cast button before shooting, my fingers were tired at the end
ionic blade
uh huh
and, i just beat theseus with a call, and he's like "Artemis, why...?"
so good
lament coral
m'lady, whyyy...
ionic blade
Yo hades, culinary staff, get on that, because i will pay so much
I'm british, so you know im not lying
lament coral
Theseus tips his shield
ionic blade
I also love how polar opposites Theseus and aesterius are
aesterous is an honmourable warrior, who really respects you when you beat him, and then Thesesu is just... theseus
ocean arch
Gotta love the Braggart calling you a Blackguard
icy edge
Theseus is a braggart so long as he loses
If he wins, then all his boasting is absolutely justified
ocean arch
I need to ask because it bothers me, is that a photoshopped Huge Lorry face?
icy edge
Yes it is, it's like an early 2010's reaction image that still makes me smile when i really look at it, so I keep it as a profile image
ocean arch
Noice
icy edge
Plus, I met the man, so why not
lament coral
oh? At a concert?
icy edge
Yep. He'll go down for playing House, but his blues and jazz was something, too
Also, off topic
ocean arch
Yeah was just a quick question. Back to Hades: Tbh The way Theseus is presented in game just makes me want to punch him and his smug face but at the same time I love what they've done with the character
He's so over the top in what he does
And I love the exchange you have with Achilles regarding Extreme Measures Theseus
icy edge
Wanting to punch him is the goal, so the design is spot on
I'm just kinda sad he's all ham all the time... a frequent quality of SGG side characters
icy edge
Better than Lernie... though cutting the number of phases is a godsend
ocean arch
No kidding
Asterius not going immune at low health in the Theseus fight is also great
icy edge
What the winter update did for boss fights is just good all around
ocean arch
Aye
night pasture
has anyone calculated how much titan jam you need to max all weapon aspects, currently?
36 for each, plus 15 for guan yu = 195 titan jams
I have discovered: math
turbid needle
I wonder what titan jam tastes like
woeful stirrup
Tastes like Tartar sauce 
prisma scaffold
what are the requirements for getting wave pounding to appear? ive been taking every boon i can and can't get it to show
woeful stirrup
Pretty sure you only need at least one Poseidon boon with knockback effects.
prisma scaffold
dang, guess im just unlucky
turbid needle
It feels so good when pure RNG saves your run xD
lament coral
yeah, you just need any of Pos' knockback boons: attack, special, cast, dash, call
turbid needle
Lost all my defy death at the hydra fight already, and now I got it all back and I had no proper skill and now an epic lvl 8 cast
lament coral
that's epic 
ionic blade
I've never tried a cast build
it seems very fragile
You'd need lots of lucky boons
prisma scaffold
any cast w poseidon aspect sword is pretty amazing. there are definitely artemis/hermes boons that you really want but you can do a lot without them as well
lament coral
I don't really dig Poseidon with melee weapons
ionic blade
oh yeah, i don't think I've gotten that boon nefore
lament coral
oh, that, definitely
ionic blade
I usually neglect my cast a little, the only one i like is Ares' blade rift one, which is great against chumps but gimps you on bosses, and aphrodite's because of the AOE And its a status effect towards punished
prisma scaffold
although the fastest ive ever cleared styx was a poseidon cast poseidon aspect build
artemis' is really good as well
floral wedge
Is there any channel where I can report a bug?
ionic blade
press f10 in game
do it when the bug occurs of you can, but it's not necessary
describe the bug in detail, so they can tell exactly what happened
I still think a hermes status effect would be cool, but I can't really think what would be fair and isn't taken already
I'd say slower projectiles, like you're seeing faster, but Athena has that
and Slower enemies/attack speed is taken by demeter
prisma scaffold
yea he'd be interesting if he was a fleshed out god like the rest
ionic blade
I do like his boons, extra dashes are sooo good on Hades, and move/attack speed are nice, but he's not very fleshed out I feel
he's like a suppot god i guess
And dodge is nice too
prisma scaffold
honestly i think all you ever need out of him are extra dashes, move speed after dash or cast speed (if youre going cast build). at least i prioritize those over pretty much everything else
untold widget
@lament coral the picture is actually Meg i thought
lament coral
really? I don't believe her right shoulder is ever exposed
woven hill
Does anybody else seem to be unable to talk to Thanatos after entering Zagreus' bedroom? I reported the problem but I was just wondering if anyone else noticed it.
untold widget
@lament coral i think thats meant to be her in her "work uniform" you know? Thats the joke-y vibe i got from it. like its the employee of the month picture
woven hill
I really like Poseidon with the shield, since it does knockback anyway so added benefits to it are always welcome.
turbid needle
XD holy moly, the 10x cold stack is crazy!
untold widget
i still havent tried a full demeter build yet
that was something i was thinking about over the weekend
just doing some funhouse runs
seeing how deep with one god i could roll
digital vessel
demeter-artemis for the cast hilarity, if you did upgraded chiron and got extra arrows on special hammer with demeter special and the 10x cold stack burst boon, you could basically just blow everything up while spamming your targeted special and your lasers kill everything else
and if you have more than 10 arrows flying out, you'd always keep chill on them as well as bursting it every time you fire
unless i'm just wildly wrong there lol
dusky drum
digital vessel
ahh yes, how could i forget. she's also great for the new spear, has that increased health restoration boon (which boosts the between-rooms healing so i think spear too but i'm not positive tbh) and her attack boon on that charge attack spin-n-heal move is pretty hilarious
all in all she's probably just top tier all around, or at least right under it
prisma scaffold
i cant stand new spear tbh
digital vessel
it's very different
prisma scaffold
yea, and personally i never liked achilles or hades aspect either. gimme base aspect all day
digital vessel
i liked it once i started my runs using either demeter or chaos keepsakes, and just stuck to dashing and throwing spears until i got boons/more health
prisma scaffold
interesting idea
digital vessel
now it's my only maxed spear aspect and my favorite
prisma scaffold
ill have to try that
digital vessel
demeter or athena on attack are great, so one of those keepsakes to start while you get used to it. once i got more comfy with whatever boons, i switched to cosmic egg so i could do chaos gates with the low health you have in tartarus
more safely
but even then, if you get good at healing, chaos gates are kinda whatever
so i flipflop on that lol
still WiP
prisma scaffold
sure sure
digital vessel
also, it's much harder without spending blood on it, so if you have blood it's a good one to spend it on if you do end up liking it
prisma scaffold
ill have to check after i grab food but im pretty sure ive maxed it
worthy dust
Question. I had an opportunity to buy light of Ixion in the break room before Styx. Can a Chaos portal even spawn past that?
woven hill
In the satyr rooms probably
But I've had chaos portals in the first room in Asphodel in the past, before the first encounter
worthy dust
Yeah, that's where I was thinking I'd see it. The transition room before the maze
turbid needle
Don’t think it can, but maybe it would trigger in the hallway rooms
But to be fair I never saw a chaos gate in styx
So maybe it can’t spawn there
lament coral
https://i.imgur.com/sgRca1t.png
another fish!
nimble wraith
to get a perfect catch, do you have to press it the moment it bobs down?
frank valve
Hey I had a question. Not sure if I encountered a bug with the Hades fight or if it's just my build was THAT broken
But during the fight, I did 8370 damage to him in one hit....
My build had 0 crit in it as Artemis wasn't in my rotation
atomic panther
Did you have a charm from Aprhodite?
frank valve
Yes
atomic panther
Did you deflect an attack?
frank valve
I don't believe so....I hit him with the shield
It's possible...I'll have to check the clip to see if the damage was as I was dashing
Or I can post the clip if that's allowed
flint grove
then it's your build
atomic panther
Posting the clip is definitely allowed
atomic panther
I know there's been some bugs with charms amplifying damage, so if you're still in the room you should probably send an 
frank valve
Yeah no deflect
Purely hitting him with my shield
and I did it in phase 1 as well, over 5k damage that brought him down to the phase 2 trigger
atomic panther
I think you may have deflected the damage from the wave
Charming enemies increases their damage, and deflecting damage also adds a multiplier
frank valve
Yeah he was charmed, I had the effect that makes me do more damage to weakened enemies, and had the stat that makes me do bonus damage if they have more that 1 status effect
But, as you can see, it was just 1 hit that had that insane damage on it
Yeah, didn't deflect anything in phase 1 when I took out his last 1/3 in a hit
So my boons were aphrodite on attack, weakened enemies take more damage, charmed, dash attack does more damage
oh and multiple statuses take more damage
atomic panther
Because enemies have significantly more health than Zagreus most of the time, the damage they deal when charmed (and attacking other enemies) has to be magnified to feel useful. The same is true for deflected attacks. If an enemy is charmed, you can still deflect its attacks back, in which case it benefits from both multipliers. I think that's what happened here, with you dashing into the wave incidentally and deflecting the damage from that
No, on second look, you definitely didn't dash into the wave. Hm.
frank valve
Yeah I did dodge over it, but it didn't say "Deflected" when I did
so I don't think the wave can be deflected
atomic panther
Maybe it can, but that's unrelated to this
frank valve
True
atomic panther
Yeah, I have no idea
frank valve
Mkay, well thanks for trying to help troubleshoot it haha
Not gonna question what got me my first shield win
lilac frigate
https://gyazo.com/6a03443b952d16a503bebae23856718c man i really wish i had a higher heat level with this buid
elfin pulsar
nasty
thats with the special bow?
also, how much does weak do now? saw it got nerfed
hollow sorrel
I personally stopped getting any boons that can charm, because it was so buggy
green sable
everything is getting the nerf bat 😦
elfin pulsar
bummer
yeah i remember it was 30 or 50
i guess the game did get "easier" with the new pact
hollow sorrel
It might be like 30, but now there’s a second boon to make weak better
elfin pulsar
but nerfing stuff in a single player game :x
does that boon go above the old value?
mighty ermine
yeah, the supplementary boon can nearly get it back to where it was
elfin pulsar
im happy they rolled back most the nerfs from the patch
and honestly weak was pretty dang nuts
olive sand
Hello. Is there any kind of reward for complete a bond with a character? I just forged one with Thanatos, but he already gave me his companion before that.
elfin pulsar
i think its just story right now
olive sand
Okay, thanks. ^^
dense star
Yeah 50% less incoming damage is pretty strong
At least you now need an additional boon to approach that from weak
opal bay
So, question. Do people still think Zeus Aspect on Shield is bad?
elfin pulsar
its my favorite aspect in the game period
as far as how good it is, I think its absolutely viable at any level
hits like a truck now too
opal bay
oh finally someone else who thinks Zeus Shield is good.
pastel jolt
@forest iris You already can fish in Chaos!
forest iris
elfin pulsar
only takes a decent boon like aphro or zeus for it to be hitting for 75+ right off the bat
plus status ailments
main citrus
Never found fish in Chaos or Elysium 😔
stray frigate
Imagine find it and fail it
worthy dust
I would cry
stray frigate
lilac frigate
my friend got the chaos fish, im jelly :' (
rugged estuary
I got a chaos fish yesterday, but only got a diamond out of it
would have prefered a blood
lilac frigate
"only
rugged estuary
my flatmate failed a chaos fish though 😂
lilac frigate
i cAugHT a heLlfiSH
opal bay
but yeah as for me
I am currently doing run with zeus shield with homing arrows and special hitting every enemy near it with 50 dmg per strike of thunder.
elfin pulsar
jeez
its really just nuts with zeus special
its also just the most fun aspect IMO
feels great how you can kinda control it with sucking it in, or knocking people into it
digital vessel
oh man yes zeus shield + zeus special + double lightning + larger lighting area + jolted + support fire and pressure points is a riot
opal bay
oop on baragae of death
olive sand
Any suggestion for a good sword build? I beat the game with every other weapons, but I can't find a way to make something efficient with this weapon (it seems really really weak for me right now).
elfin pulsar
i like nemesis aspect with artemis or aphro attack
usually run hermes keepsake as well
olive sand
So, crit build?
elfin pulsar
yeah basically, though its fine if nemesis is ur only crit as long as u have high attack
aphro has the highest base damage i think
lilac frigate
dash build with the dashstrike uügrade from the hammer always works well for me
open temple
unlocking more aspects after you use the blood from the fury fights seems like such a grind
elfin pulsar
its not the worst, you get like 2.5 a run I think
gives something to work towards i guess
digital vessel
athena attack is also good if you don't get aphro or artemis, esp if you have that and athena dash it's hilarious
elfin pulsar
absolutely
olive sand
Okay, thanks for your help, I'll try something like that. When I started the game, I was like "mmh, a shield could be boring after that amazing sword!". But after doing a build with literraly the Captain America shield, I was like "my god, this sword is boring now". XD
stable cedar
is there a resource out there that helps with people who are struggling with their first complete run? optimial abilities? resource priority? weapon priority?
lilac frigate
yeah spamming spacebar leftclick feels just way better than going for the 3 hit combo with sword 😂
elfin pulsar
honestly I think spamming dash attacks with the sword is the way to go
i cant explain it very well because I kinda mash it, but you can weave in a lot of attacks that way
digital vessel
dash attack for sword is amazing, extra if you get the dash attack hammer
olive sand
Spamming dash attack ends bad for me in general, I take hits during the pause between the dashes. XD
elfin pulsar
^^
naive tusk
Do you guys think it’s ok for the red cast prisms to be out of bounds (hence uncollectable) during a boss fight?
digital vessel
that plus artemis dash and either artemis/athena/aphro attack would be amazing as long as you are secure in your ability to survive lol
elfin pulsar
i think its alright, because they only end up there if u throw em there
naive tusk
Huh
elfin pulsar
and yeah thats pretty much my strategy trik
thats why I take hermes keepsake, because that build is super high damage and it gives a lot of dodge+speed to deal with ranged units
worthy dust
Question : does Lernie ever get his original name back?
elfin pulsar
@stable cedar have you checked reddit or the steam community page for guides? if theres nothing there then all I can think of is asking around the discord
naive tusk
By the way, another way the cast ends out of bounds is also when the boss gets near the edge with a cast lodged on them
That’s how mine ended there with a Fury
lilac frigate
@stable cedar i'd ask around for a good build of the weapon of your choice - take the related god's keepsakes in the first stages and go into the last one with the tooth - to keep is basic
elfin pulsar
now that I think should be fixed
cast dislodging should probably have some mechanic that keeps it on the map
naive tusk
At least there’s a timer for them to come back
digital vessel
i've found the broken spearpoint is decent to use again after it's slight de-nerfing, for last phase
and have gone back to that from tooth/bracer
elfin pulsar
also check out the self-promotion channel, people post speedruns there
will give you an idea of optimal damage builds
naive tusk
My #1 tip is to get mirror upgrades for your 1st completion, since upgrades are permanent
digital vessel
on that note, use the extra darkness on a certain weapon to guide your weapon choice, so you get used to all of them while building up your mirror buffs
stable cedar
I just feel like RNG crushes me - sometimes I find myself with a ton of cool boons and feel really powerful. Other attempts, I struggle and feel like a peasant.
digital vessel
that was probably the best thing for learning
naive tusk
Also focus on learning your enemies so in future runs you know better what to do or dont do
elfin pulsar
once you get the mirror upgrades that increase boon rarity the game because substantially less RNG dependent
in fact with both maxxed out I'd say its the least RNG rogue-like i've played, at least as far as winning goes
last dawn
https://imgur.com/umCpibf
Oh baby, what a dream for Hera Bow
elfin pulsar
how does artemis cast work with hera?
does it heat seek or just function as a normal cast
last dawn
So if you miss your shot, it will heat seek, and if you kill with the first 2 casts but have 3 more loaded, the rest of the 3 seek the next enemy
It's pretty great
elfin pulsar
thats sick
last dawn
I tried Dio cast, but I hate waiting for the effect to finish for me to pick it back up.
last dawn
I haven't but apparently it spawns them right next to the enemy and then they just walk away from it and it's no longer aimed at them
elfin pulsar
lmao
bold salmon
I forget, does Explosive Return on Chaos shield apply to every shield?
abstract pilot
no
digital vessel
I think only the main one, not extras
last dawn
Nope, because only the original actually returns to you
bold salmon
What i thought. Thanks! 
patent tiger
I'm going to have a struggle to get my first victory with the Rail. Which Attack boon should I aim for.
naive tusk
Dionysus gets stacks quick with the rail
digital vessel
Dio Demeter and Zeus are good on attack, less so if you do hestia aspect
lament coral
@nimble wraith you have to press the button before the bob submerges completely, right after the shine appears
the window is really tight
but not impossible, usually
naive tusk
It’s like 0.3 second window
spice turret
Y'all ever Guan-yu so hard you break the game?
Because, like... I somehow broke my spear. Got the charged skewer daedalus, Epic Hermes special, and an epic Athena special boon.
Somehow, that made the 'charged' part of 'charged skewer' instant, and infinite; it literally just immediately extended as far as physically possible, and further.
Massive damage, incredibly fast, and no limits on range.
The game didn't seem to register every other spear, but I sure was launching them.
Had that heckin' hydra not killed me due to the lack of health and running out of death defiances boss one (It's a hard fight with no other boons and a chaos 'damage on special' effect)
Well... I can speculate 😄
bright mulch
Lol nice
@patent tiger you can try stacking the special with rail instead for a win, especially with hammer perks like triple bomb
finite gust
Everytime I have used Adamnat Rail the game always throws Special stuff at me and end up making nuke builds
last dawn
I'll always preach for max hestia adamant rail with artemis attack boon. 1400 crits so gooooood
patent tiger
Could be an option. I also did not have a companion last time so maybe I will have better luck. Though seeing the praise for Hestia Aspect gets me wanting to max it out. Will be needing it anyway for higher heat
last dawn
It's what I did heat 32 with, after much struggling x.x
steady horizon
Quick question for you gamers in here. You know those bonus messages you get at the end of the run like "Disciple of Hermes," (a message that I've only ever gotten thus far), is it possible to get something like this with any other god/goddess if you have enough boons from them?
unkempt pagoda
yes
green sable
you can....if your RNG loves you
steady horizon
Lets see how well I can do that with my fated authorities and his conch shell lol
lament coral
you're still limited by its range
though I don't remember if special charge increases it
GY special has the standard range, I believe, though it does AOE damage and pierces
sort of a blend between the default spear special and the boom special hammer
elfin pulsar
i had a run with guan yu with the special charge hammer, even an uncharged special would have infinite range
it was not very fair
and certainly a bug
young widget
Was the frequency of chaos gates nerfed? They seem to appear less
radiant basin
it feels like that to me too 😩
solid cairn
If rail aspect 4 isn’t something America-related I’m suing
radiant basin
https://puu.sh/F5JQF/194a740ea8.jpg when you're running hera and are blessed by bouldy 👀
solid cairn
Guan yu is too rng heavy to be nerf worthy imo @snow tangle
snow tangle
wdym
snow tangle
I mean doesn't elysium have essentially a guaranteed hammer anyways
snow tangle
right
solid cairn
Also if you have heightened security you get 1 shot by most traps
untold widget
high risk high reward
rare salmon
I can't seem to get Skelly to offer me his favor. I've gifted him enough Nectar. Any ideas?
I gather that he's going to want me to kill him with the fully upgraded Zagreus Aspect Sword, but he's never asked.
chrome schooner
Is there a special interaction with The Hades Aspect + Flurry Jab or do you just "delete" punish buff?
turbid needle
You delete your Punishing Swing buff.
Hey guys, does "ongoing underworld renovations" mean it will be later content ?
I mean, not in the game yet
Yes.
kk
@rare salmon Tell me about that, cause Skelly just asked me that
Do I need to lvl 5 my aspect of zagreus and whoop him?
turbid needle
Play one more round and talk to him
I did nothing else beside that
He literally asked me that one second ago
LOL I got it
That dude is hilarious
woven hill
Post it in another server and copy the link to the image
rare salmon
I gave him the nectar a long long time ago. I've completed many runs since then 😕
teal nebula
@woven hill i dont have permission
woven hill
The url
novel python
I usually send the photos to a bot then right click the photo and choose copy link
teal nebula
woven hill
WOO!
turbid needle
Well done, with the spear, too!
teal nebula
Dont really understand the damage i did 😂
novel python
My first win was supposed to be a flurry spear zeus run but what carried me was arte's cast 😂
teal nebula
On malus i mean
fallow niche
@teal nebula you probably ran into the charm bug that instantly deletes Hades hp 😂
sacred folio
Speaking of charming Hades, I just had a hilarious run today: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1984856406
Serrated Edge + Heartbreak Strike + Unhealthy Fixation = Hades keeps laughing due to being charmed and cannot really attack.
unkempt pagoda
hades finally knows what it feels like to be a normal loving dad:
hybrid frost
Um, the music stand seems to be auto-playing "God of the Dead" whenever I log in, regardless of what music I had it set to play when logging off. Is this a new thing or should I F10 it?
dire mason
I say go for an Fenix. 👍
hybrid frost
Alright.
sacred folio
I believe F10 should catch more in-game data than just a screenshot. So that might be helpful to the devs
pastel jolt
@lament coral Hey, could you split your most recent feedback up? Spearate points of feedback should be in separate posts for ease of voting.
lament coral
should I delete and repost it?
pastel jolt
yes please!
bright mulch
Does giving nectar to bouldy have a cap or is it like a gag
Either that or I'm horrible at remembering how much I've given him which is probably more accurate. I didn't see him in the codex and I feel like I looked through all of it though I may also be dumb there as well
tame urchin
anyone knows how much Companion Shady drops the amount of coins or health
pallid dagger
anyone else think the spear has so far gotten kind of a short stick in aspect powers?
not even just the guan yu spear, just...in general.
fallow niche
Guan Yu is a very good aspect that really changes how it works
I think its special should get the lifesteal too to fully explore its build diversity but as an aspect I think its great, especially compared to the others
Zag spear is good, if plain
Achilles is bonkers strong but really hard to use, so also a good aspect
last nacelle
YES
fallow niche
Hades aspect is... Quite poo
last nacelle
The special on Guan Yu is USELESS.
pallid dagger
well that's unfortunate
cuz i'm using the Hades one now.
fallow niche
People here have beaten the game on 20 heat with decent times using special builds for it
@pallid dagger The best way to play with the Hades one is to ignore its ability altogether and just do a Flurry / Explosive launcher build and that's kinda sad
It needs to be reworked
Or, if getting hit doesn't ministun Zag anymore and cancel his charged abilities then that could probably do it
But who knows if any of that will ever happen
pallid dagger
I won't say the spear sucks
it just feels like its aspects are much harder to enjoy. achilles' messes up the usually great special, and hades' is built on part of the weapon that wasn't really useful to begin with. guan yu....well, i said several pieces on that.
fallow niche
Achilles is the stand out for weirdest aspect and honestly I'm glad its there for the super niche audience it might have
Zag spear is plan, as Zag aspects should be, and thankfully its good
pallid dagger
the spear does play really well with upgrades, though. like, almost every hammer you can add to it makes it awesome.
fallow niche
Hades is poo tho
And Guan Yu is super linear
There is one good build and one OK build and that's it
@pallid dagger Each aspect has its best 2 hammer upgrades
All other hammers are worse in comparison
Most weapons are like this though
pallid dagger
Charged Skewer? crazy damage numbers. Exploding launcher? crazy damage numbers.
Serrated Edge and Flurry Jab? DPS shoots through the roof. Even the spin modifiers do their part to help out the least useful part of the weapon.
i don't really talk about the spear much cuz aegis and exagryph own my whole heart
but it does rock in its own way
green sable
i keep trying to love the rail but it won't let me....sorry
fallow niche
Serrated Edge is an accessory to Flurry Jab. Its not bad, but Flurry Jab is the core hammer there
pallid dagger
is there any way i can help? what's the problems with the rail so far?
green sable
hunnie im on death 110.
ive tried ALOT of dif builds and ways.
they keep falling short
i tried Zeus....
etc
pallid dagger
remember the Aphro-Artemis-Poseidon rule.
those are your damage-dealing boons, especially on upgrade-malleable weapons like the rail
also, Artemis grants Support Fire. if you get that on the rail, the whole screen dies in seconds.
fallow niche
Poseidon is definitely not one of them lol
green sable
ive tried Aprhodite and frankly i don't see it
now arti i do
but that takes forever
fallow niche
Aphrodite on special for Eris rail is good with Dionysus on attack is very strong
pallid dagger
it's not about weak/charm. it's about the damage numbers. she has the highest damage boosts in the game. Poseidon has the second-highest.
grand idol
I believe Aphro has the highest % increase for attacks and specials
fallow niche
Yes she does
fallow niche
Poseidon does not have the second highest @pallid dagger
grand idol
Your goal for Aphro is to take a high damage attack Daedalus or get some chaos gates and get attack % up.
pallid dagger
also! flurry fire. flurry fire is especially good for dps. if you can't get that, swift strike from hermes will substitute.
grand idol
So you wanna get the Hestia aspect for Exagryph. Or the Big Chop for the sword. Or the Explosive Shot for the arrow.
pallid dagger
i think i said this, but
Hestia + Deadly Strike had me dealing upwards of 700 damage halfway through tartarus. and upwards of 1100 by Elysium.
green sable
...deadly strike?
fallow niche
Artemis on attack iirc
pallid dagger
Artemis' buff for your Attack
green sable
maybe thats the problem im not getting the boons
and seeing poor numbers
my rail only hits for 10 dmg most of the time
grand idol
Hestia does 150 on reload
pallid dagger
lmao yeah. that's its weakness but it is a super easy weakness to correct
grand idol
So if you get Artemis, a crit does 200% damage. Or you know, 450 base crit for hestia
green sable
i am still missing 2 boons from arti and one from ares
night pasture
definitely try the hestia aspect of the rail
green sable
...ok
grand idol
Probably the ones you need have pre-reqs
night pasture
if you crank it, it basically turns into the bow without a windup time
green sable
its exit wounds and fully loaded for arti
i think its Vicious cycle for ares...i think
grand idol
Vicious cycle requires some blade rift stuff I believe
fallow niche
Yes it does
grand idol
Cast, or Dash
fallow niche
It requires blade rift added time + suction or the increased AoE
grand idol
Or Call I believe
fallow niche
You need cast or call to get the tier 2 boons necessary for his legendary
green sable
O its his legendary no wonder
pallid dagger
i did just finish a run with ares. vicious cycle made all the difference, i usually ignore him otherwise.
fallow niche
I don't suggest cast unless you're also going for the artemis duo Hunting Blades
grand idol
So it's a 3 step process. Need a blade rift, then you gotta get something that improves it, then you can get vicious cycle
fallow niche
And its up to chance too
You may never end up seeing a legendary boon even if you shoot for it
That's why I never really shoot for them
green sable
and i still has to finish the game with the bow AND the rail to get the fate list check off
fallow niche
Rail is better than the bow yeah
green sable
ive been doing the rail for the last 5 or 10 times.
fallow niche
Rail usually revolves around hammer upgrades unless you're Hestia
What was your first hammer those times?
green sable
hence the reason im kind of miffed
Lets see.
i got the shotgun
and the flurry fire
fallow niche
Shotgun is best with Dionysus
green sable
on my last run
fallow niche
Next time you get an early hammer use that to educate what kind of build you're going for I think
I do that a lot with Spear as well as Rail (unless its Hestia)
green sable
k
fallow niche
Also, when in doubt go Athena dash and get some attack like Ares or Aphrodite
And try and get Privileged Status going
Those are some really good failsafe builds
green sable
i have no idea when that status happens
fallow niche
So privileged Status is a mirror upgrade that makes you deal 50% more damage to enemies that have two or more status effects on them from your boons
An example would be Ares / Dionysus's attacks like Doom and Hangover
All gods have one
fallow niche
Some need to be gotten after their attack/dash, such as Athena's Exposed
green sable
that backstab stuff huh
green sable
i recall seeing that
no i mean it says backstab dmg or something like that
or exposed etc
fallow niche
As long as you grab it, and deflect or damage them WITH deflect damage at all you will get the damage bonus
pallid dagger
aphrodite and dionysus are easy ways to get status curses
plus they have a duo
green sable
i'll grab those this time around
fallow niche
Dio attack + aphro dash or special on Spread Fire rail is very, very good
One of the more impressive rail builds imo
fallow niche
Make sure its on the attack since it lets you get a lot of hangover stacks! And good luck!
I gtg for the night so hopefully this helps
(also your damage on enemies should make a new sound when you've achieved privileged status)
(its a good indicator)
green sable
ty ❤️
im doing that now
i got there duo...it wasn't that hard either omg
well another fail...sigh
pallid dagger
hang in there!
green sable
after 12 times or so in a row....im breaking.
i tried that dio/alph duo
it was nice.
open kettle
Where can I ask story questions?
tawny ivy
ppl usually put them in #h1-story-discussion :+1:
night pasture
would you know how many runs you've done @green sable
green sable
of course i know how many ive done
night pasture
I know amongst my friends, their first clear happens maybe around run 40
and then they start consistently clearing around maybe 60
pallid dagger
man screw everyone that says poseidon ain't got good boons
nothing beats knocking these jumpy lunatic skeletons into lava
bright mulch
Just finished a beautiful triple bomb run 
ionic blade
being able to bully them into lava rocks
bright mulch
Aphro special, Dio attack and chaos boost on special
Like easy 800 damage rotation or something lol
bright mulch
Sick
I love lightning rail but I feel like I never get it when I actually go for it lol
ionic blade
oh
hmm
blade rift casts... its a risk reward choice...
Buuuut Blade rifts are my favourite thing in the game so screw it
shell solar
What is the deal with Hades spin attack? like I literally just died to it while I was mid-dash.
I know this for absolutely certain, due to the fact that during the hit-stun, the slowdown, and the DD animation, athena's shields were still rotating around my torso
green sable
wow
bright mulch
That's weird yeah, I Athena dash through it plenty
shell solar
I'm sure I have before but it speaks to some other completely random damage I get sometimes when my brain is otherwise 99% sure I shouldn't be taking a hit one way or another
bright mulch
Well Athena dash was nerfed recently right? With a smaller I frame period
night pasture
the i-frames of the dash are much less generous than they might appear
shell solar
Not to mention the auto-80 I seem to get hit for every time DD procs during the Hades fight. Like my health bar refills, I regain control of Zag, and then bleugh! I get "hit" for 80 but it doesn't subtract from my life total
bright mulch
Maybe the length of anim was looked over in the Nerf accidently
night pasture
I would very much recommend getting the hell out of dodge if you see the spin wind up rather than placing yourself anywhere near the final boss
shell solar
Sure but it's not like I was trying to bully him. I had to dodge it, and I had ample time. I'm terribly sure I didn't eff up the timing that bad since as I said the animation continued after the hit. It's not like I caught it on the last couple frames of the dodge, it was dead in the middle
Like when I was playing with the shield the other day, I would get a "deflected!" "Blocked!" and also take damage all at once
specifically from that attack
night pasture
the spin is very meaty on its damage frames and damage ranges, and the dash is not
that said, I wouldn't say that you didn't necessarily encounter something odd
I'd recommend slapping a feedback about it
long sierra
ok, daedalus upgrade to reduce spin charge + demeter attack chill makes guan yu quite viable
everyone is frozen in place and you can heal up. Quite nice
bright mulch
Chill with guan yu is good in general I found
Makes enemies match your slower attacks
night pasture
quick spin + massive spin make guan yu a killer, if you can get 'em
pallid dagger
when you have 6 boons from the same god and none of them is the legendary
green sable
like my last run lol
bright mulch
Just always assume bad rng lol
night pasture
I check the wiki at that point, some of the tier 2 boons you need aren't what I would say would be obvious
quartz remnant
Question: I died, got back home, and I try talking to Thanatos but there's no button prompt. Is it bugged or is he giving me the silent treatment?
bright mulch
I've given up on good rng ages ago
pallid dagger
oh i know. i've had one of the boons for the upgrade tree since asphodel
damn rng
night pasture
@quartz remnant that sounds like a bug, you should at least be able to talk to him once if you got through an encounter with him
quartz remnant
I've spoken him a few times back home but then, nada.
green sable
my RNG hates me
quartz remnant
I've been pumping him with Nectar so maybe I bugged it out or something.
obsidian bluff
So I’ve been playing on my laptop, no mouse and my left click on the touchpad is iffy, so I’m pretty much entirely using the special for attack, has anyone found a convenient key to map the regular attack to?
bright mulch
You could probably map it to the other side of the keyboard and play with two hands
Like j and k
pallid dagger
nope. shield shield shield shield. aegis is the only thing that consistently works without a controller.
dense spruce
How does Minotaur Rush for the shield work? I dont really notice a difference with the bull rush
pallid dagger
alright, so i finished a run with the hades spear
i did not, as predicted, actually use the punishing sweep
ever
obsidian bluff
That’s what I’ve figured, I have also managed to get pretty far with the rail and it’s mortars
pallid dagger
up next is the bow. i just have the chiron aspect and the eris aspect of the rail to finish runs with next
thin talon
so i just got the game ive died a few times i keep coming across the 2 bomb skeleton guys? are they bosses and is it always them first?
night pasture
they're the miniboss of the first level
and yup, they'll getcha
I recommend getting the dash upgrade first, when you can
it makes them a lot easier
thin talon
ohh. ive killed them a few times i guess i haven't fought the first real boss yet
night pasture
you'll know her when you see her
thin talon
is it like binding of issac where its a random boss when you get to the boss rooms?
night pasture
only in the first world, and only after a while
stray frigate
sup guys
night pasture
well, minibosses are a few different encounters in each world
stray frigate
not rly
night pasture
but the main bosses are set for the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th worlds
tulip parcel
what is vicious cycle again?
green sable
i need to get it
stray frigate
i would take it
tulip parcel
ohhh. yeah might as well get it while you can.
stray frigate
actually
it depends on what u have as rift
if only dash...
welll i would take it anyway to have more ares lately and take more rifts skills)))
mighty ermine
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/654076105321480226/672983489720614912/20200131193116_1.jpg not at all the direction i initially wanted to take with this guan yu run
but i will take a fast and perfect clear hades fight for sure
green sable
wow
ionic blade
ooh man
I have 3 revenge effects, and the timed revenge one
this is gonna be fuuun
night pasture
@gusty dagger I saw your post about athena's legendary boon, and just wanted to mention that it PREVENTS an instance of damage, whereas the broken spearpoint prevents further damage AFTER you take damage
stray frigate
btw spearpoint works almost like Athena revenge boon
mighty ermine
nyaice
pallid dagger
niccceeee
man, it's a shame artemis' legendary is a cast-based one. same with ares'.
she's so universally useful otherwise.
any suggestions for chiron aspect?
legendaries i should aim for?
mortal gorge
Do you still block with Charged Shot hammer upgrade on the shield?
And how effective has it seemed in general?
ionic blade
What's artemis' legendary?
mortal gorge
cast charges
hybrid frost
+3 Blood Stones (Casts)
green sable
ive not won once today 😦
night pasture
You do still block, and it's fairly effective
last I played with it though it was before they fixed it being offered with incompatible boons and I'm not sure if they fixed that
gusty dagger
Yeah but you block multiple instances instead of just one
@pallid dagger you can try aphro on attack, dio on special then their duo boon. Really strong
Or you can also do demeter on special with her boon that pops the chill effect at 10 stacks
Just remember to get the hammer upgrade that adds 4 arrows to your special
night pasture
I honestly wonder what's going to happen to the interactions with the final boss that subtely imply the game isn't finished yet once the game is, uh, finished
turbid needle
They'll probably remove them when it is no longer the end of the game.
night pasture
so they'll just be lost, like tears... in rain?
turbid needle
Sadly yes
i think that will depends on how the content after the current final boss will be accessible
I guess we can all just enjoy the fourth wall breaking dialogue for now. They didn't really need to go that far for something unfinished and yet they're always a laugh to hear at the end of a run.
maybe they can keep most of it there unless you meet certain conditions?
night pasture
nah, I agree that that's probably what's going to happen, but it's a shame because some of it's quite funny
particularly when the narrator gets flustered
turbid needle
The beetle one always gets me
do you guys have any tips for shield and spear? i'm finding it really hard to find an aspect that clicks
Aspect of Zeus is good for any build that requires stacking. Dionysus, Demeter and Ares (with his Doom stacking boon) are all decent gods to go with because the shield hits fast and in a ranged AoE.
turbid needle
haha
humble swallow
just for the choice of the "title" text
night pasture
(maybe spoilers!)
humble swallow
oh whoops youre right