h1-builds-and-combat

[wind vale]

a mirror upgrade

a bit down the list

+25%/+50% damage to enemies with at least 2 status curses on them

yea one effect from each god

with poison + weak its easy to get and where you usually want to go with poison

[hollow sorrel]

Poison is good on rapid fire type moves, where you can quickly apply 5 stacks of poison, which is max chaos shield special, max Chiron bow special, or normal Eris railgun attack

It doesn’t have a good damage modifier, so you wouldn’t want it on slower things like sword attacks

[worldly mauve]

stack 8 and feels great about it.

[wind vale]

i think its ok with blade flurry

[worldly mauve]

with correspondent boons

[wind vale]

flurry slash i mean

[untold widget]

so i found a weird difference between kbm and controller

on kbm you can dash attack facing a different direction than where youre dashing

i was watching a buddy use the spear (which i usually have trouble with) and thats how he was doing it

[wind vale]

there are a few settings for the aim with k&m - probably just with most aim assist disabled?

[untold widget]

yeah, i know its because of the settings

im not suggesting its a bug

its just a quirk

[wind vale]

but yea that always seemed normal to me but not that you mention it

[untold widget]

that i think makes it easier

[wind vale]

makes stuff better

you can also properly aim aoe attacks with k&m

sort of a reason i cant switch

[untold widget]

i kind of dont want to try kbm

ive never been a pc gamer

and when i am i basically always use controller

[worldly mauve]

seemed normal to me too until you mention it.

I'm like a broken record now

repeating other ppl aren't I

I'm using KBM atm, broke my xbox controller waiting for the new one.

[spare iron]

@worldly mauve broke your controller on Elysium fight? Dodging all that spear might break it. I'm using it the most at that fight

[worldly mauve]

lol i dunno maybe

my controller's old anyways

[fallow niche]

Wew

16 minute Poseidon sword run

Feelsgood

[worldly mauve]

I'll never be that fast

[fallow niche]

Didn't get legendary boon this time

Just a buttload of poms

My artemis cast got to level 7

[pallid sky]

i got 24:30something today

[fallow niche]

@turbid needle I use the gods keepsakes until final part

Usually take (though not always) the skull earing then

Hades also died in under a minute this run again

[pallid sky]

1. egg 2) purse 3) charon key 4) acorn

for me

[wind vale]

first the 7 god keepsakes (or coin purse if no idea) to shape the run, then something for survival(bracer,spearpoint,tooth,etc)

[fallow niche]

I take survival one for last section if I feel like my build lacks it

Otherwise earring

[worldly mauve]

1 - spearpoint 2 - Meg's Earring 3 - Butterfly 4 - Egg for me

[wind vale]

oh right - egg is nice if i got no god i need to force

[fallow niche]

Egg is very nice yeah I use it whenever I don't care what build to go for

[worldly mauve]

always an egg in Tartarus in hope of a neat Chaos boon.

might switch to god boons depend on the situations

[pallid sky]

acorn on hades is worth a lot

[worldly mauve]

oh i need to correct my top 4

[pallid sky]

even on 0 heat 5 x 30ish

[worldly mauve]

usually i'd equip than's or meg's keepsake if im feeling luck

sweet damage boost

[wind vale]

5*30=150, same as skelly

[fallow niche]

Damage boost is real af

[pallid sky]

thats 0 heat tho

[spare iron]

I like Athena deflect dash. So good against final boss eggs

Particle slower boon is also incredible, making dash deflect much more easier

[round warren]

I just love the deflect fdash in general, i usually go for rocket launcher, and i will just dash whenever im not launching rockets

[pallid sky]

athena dash is straight up the best boon in the game imo

even without any support

[fallow niche]

^

this

its not even close

[halcyon cedar]

what boon is good for speed run for each weapon ?
i only know use chaos shield and try to get ares special boon for multiple doom for quick kill

or is there any video can see how people quickly kill and clear game within 20 min or below? for railgun/ spear/ sword etc...

[fallow niche]

Just did a 16 minute run with poseidon sword with just two artemis boons

[old ermine]

Fast question, best weapon in your opinion?

[worldly mauve]

bumper car ride speedrun anyone?

[fallow niche]

Chaos aspect of the shield by a mile @old ermine

[worldly mauve]

^

[fallow niche]

After that I don't think there is a clear winner

Bow is in last place though

[old ermine]

@fallow niche What it is?

[worldly mauve]

hmmm.. but i like chiron bow

[pallid sky]

i like bow

[fallow niche]

People like it but its consistently the slowest clear time I've seen from people's best times with each weapon, and my personal worst weapon. Can't seem to make it work as well as any of the others, regardless of aspect @old ermine

Like the 3rd aspect should give damage or something in addition to what it already does

Instead it just makes casting more awkward

[pallid sky]

zag bow + double shot is enough damage for the whole game lmao

[fallow niche]

I mean so is chaos shield

Or crit sword

[pallid sky]

i mean yeah

[fallow niche]

I dude up there literally just beat the game with only crit sword and one hammer buff

[pallid sky]

i saw it lmao

i like ranged weapons cuz i have a hard time seeing enemy tells when using like sword

[fallow niche]

The sword is a ranged weapon

Cast sword that is

[native cipher]

anyone have any theories on how to optimally scale zeus' damage?

[fallow niche]

Weapons that hit a lot

Chaos shield, Rail builds

Outside of those you generally would go for Poseidon first and then get the Zeus duo since its so absurd

[worldly mauve]

hit more zap(poison) more

my take on zeus and dionysus

fire rate up

[sinful shale]

After getting your first boon from say poseidon, does the trinket still generate more poseidon boons? wiki seems like it does not

[pastel jolt]

it won't guarantee any more poeidon boons but you'll still get the chance for them to be a higher rarity

[old ermine]

Are the duos random? Or happen at certain point?

[worldly mauve]

you need the required skills for duo and legendary.

[stray frigate]

@old ermine chances chances

[old ermine]

rng bleh

[worldly mauve]

and then there's chance.

[stray frigate]

@old ermine i wanted athena dash my last run

and met athena 5 or 6 times

i had her duo

[old ermine]

I like deflects

[stray frigate]

i had her leg

and some more

BUT STILL NO DASH

[old ermine]

On dash, dash attacks etc.

[stray frigate]

[old ermine]

You just can't get hit

[proper jolt]

I love going for chaos boons there just that good!

[stray frigate]

they are good

ar not

[native cipher]

chaos boons are the only flat stat upgrades in the game beyond hermes and hammers.

[proper jolt]

I wanna try a chaos only run

If that is possible

[stray frigate]

this will be...very chaotic run

[native cipher]

why doesn't chaos egg force a chaos spawn a la light of ixion?

[pallid dagger]

in general, each god has 1 or 2 boons that are really good and then the rest have to be factored in

[pallid sky]

i wish

[native cipher]

unless you're athena or aphrodite

or artemis

[pallid dagger]

i maximize damage by applying poison to the basic attack to get the best use out of it and doom to the special
at least for stygius; with other weapons both effects tend to be interchangeable

support fire from artemis is always good

[native cipher]

or hear me out

literally double your health with aphro

and deflect on dash with athena

[proper jolt]

I heard Athena's dash is really good

[pallid dagger]

dash deflect saves you SO much damage

i admit i had egg on my face after dismissing it a few times

[stray frigate]

you do not need extra hp if you do not get hit

[native cipher]

deflect dash and heartbreak strike are legit best in slot

if you take anything else over them, then you're putting yourself at a distinct disadvantage

[pallid dagger]

i generally try to kill enemies before they kill me

so i go for damage, but if i can get deflection, that's a bonus

[native cipher]

i remember playing path of exile and complaining "oh i'm stacking so much evasion why are people still one-shotting me?"

and someone told me "well are you building health?"

fact of the matter is, you are going to take damage. doesn't matter how well you dodge, doesnt matter how fast you kill things, damage is inevitable.

deflect, dodge, weaken, and flat damage resist are all layers of defense.

[pallid dagger]

damage stacking is practically necessary for the hydra boss; there's so many attacks coming from so many different directions you really can't count on avoiding/deflecting them all. with the right setups, all the heads die in seconds and i finish with maybe a scratch.

damage reduction becomes necessary by theseus and asterius, but they have so much health that damage stacking is also necessary

[fallen quarry]

if you mange to get athena call and high damage, it can be pretty easy taking no damage

as quickly as it charges, if you time using the calls right

[native cipher]

theseus and asterius are easy to no damage regardless. they have incredibly learnable patters and very few stage hazzards.

EM hydra is honestly the hardest boss in the game

[fallen quarry]

for me at least, most difficult thing to kill without taking a hit would be high heat enhanced hydra fight

[worldly mauve]

lava is the hardest boss

[fallow niche]

^

lava does way more damage to me than the hydra

[native cipher]

800%

[fallow niche]

doesnt help that its actually not lava but ice

Why does it make me slide

[worldly mauve]

i'd just no damage beats hydra anytime when the terrain isn't so suck

[native cipher]

the top right corner of the map is where i lose all my health

[fallen quarry]

lol, gotta love getting caught on the small bumps at the edge of a platform to be stuffed in the lava during it

[worldly mauve]

not complaining, challenge is nice.

[native cipher]

i think em hydra needs to have its stage a bit decluttered. it's a very visually noisy area and its hard to pick things out in the chaos. other than that, no qualms with the stage.

[worldly mauve]

the depression when ||realizing terrain sucks with higher heats||

[fallow niche]

i just want the lava to be less slippery

[fallen quarry]

I find it sticky...

[worldly mauve]

yeah... they are like ice somehow?

just..

not your normal lava

[fallow niche]

yeah

it doesn't just slow

it has a weird friction to it

[native cipher]

just dash like a mad man the second you feel the slow
and pray you end up on land

[worldly mauve]

i'm so confused when I tot I'm out of lava but I'm actually dashed right in.

[fallen quarry]

I sometimes end up dashed into it, and cry as i walk out, lol

[worldly mauve]

and even more confused when walking on it feels so clunky and slippery

[fallow niche]

Yeah

[worldly mauve]

yeah panic dash and have to wait but in the lava

[fallow niche]

It doesn't feel intuitive at all

[native cipher]

certain parts of the map have walls you can dash over that separate the lava

[fallen quarry]

I don't feel slippery with it at all

it has a slow that doesn't kick in initially

and then sets in pretty hard

[worldly mauve]

like you slide a bit sometimes

[fallow niche]

When I end up in it, it carries my momentum is the thing and its hard to stop it

[worldly mauve]

well it's just really hard to describe my feeling towards it lol

[fallow niche]

So I get in the lava accidentally on the edge of a platform, "Oh I need to just walk back on," and I proceed to slowly drift further into the lava even as Zag is doing a walk animation back to the platform, inches from it

[fallen quarry]

do you use keyboard or controller?

[fallow niche]

Keyboard

[fallen quarry]

huh, me too

[worldly mauve]

and I hate it even more when ||snake head draw back and in the lava||

[fallow niche]

^^^^^

that a billion times

melee weapons cry on fire

[fallen quarry]

only drifting issues I have are on posiedon call when it doesn't let me control it and I end up flying to the edge of the screen

[worldly mauve]

smash controller furiously

[native cipher]

what i hate most is when my cast ends up like, deep inside the lava

so you just have to wait for it to time out

[worldly mauve]

lol your one cast is gone for good in this fight

[fallow niche]

funfact an old bug when you killed the hydra while in it had zag keep going off screen as the 'hydra killed' blackscreen was up @fallen quarry

@worldly mauve I have that happen in Elysium more than anywhere else

[fallen quarry]

I remember that one, lol

[worldly mauve]

aiming really carefully

but see the nice curve of a cast and miss the target perfectly ends up in the lava

[fallen quarry]

I find playing around cast clunky in general, so I just use it for extra damage when it helps out

[worldly mauve]

i think Artemis and Poseidon cast does that A LOT

[fallow niche]

The hydra heads also have their hitbox under their head

Its actually their neck joint

Really hate that too

[worldly mauve]

I hate those turtle neck...

[fallen quarry]

I'm surprised cast stones take so long to return on their own

[fallow niche]

I just hate everything about the hydra fight outside of game balance

[fallen quarry]

it's not like cast is strong compared to the attacks in the first place

[worldly mauve]

lol...

[fallow niche]

Like the actual tech behind the fight is poo

The lava mechanics suck and the hydra hitboxes suck and losing casts suck

[worldly mauve]

cast is just some addition to attack sequence is all, most of the time.

[fallow niche]

Speaking of casts

The hermes cast speed "buff" is annoying

I hate it on cast builds

[worldly mauve]

yeah that's the worst

always unintentionally throws bunch casts

[fallow niche]

"hold to keep using them" more like tap the button once and it fires all of them

[worldly mauve]

at least 2

[fallow niche]

Yeah

[worldly mauve]

especially when using fog cast

what a waste

i just want the cast to be faster not like tossing gabbo

[fallow niche]

Yup

[worldly mauve]

i mean if we have bunch of ammos, for example over 8

i might be okay with that 'rapid fire'

but we're not

[fallow niche]

I've only gotten 8 once

[worldly mauve]

it's like real hard to get normally

only time when i don't mind rapid cast fire is when I also have the auto-pickup boons

[fallow niche]

The hermes one?

Yeah then its totally fine

[worldly mauve]

yeah the legendary thingy.

[novel python]

Alriiiight time to do some heat 1 runs to finish with the legendaries and the pacts

[stoic ginkgo]

I found out today how to mod the game to force common rarity boons

It's kind of fun like that

[novel python]

why would you force commons though

[blazing mulch]

harder

[novel python]

faster

[blazing mulch]

better XD

now lets make a song

[worldly mauve]

stronger?

[novel python]

Yo im drunk lets do a 32 heat

[worldly mauve]

skelly will remember that

[novel python]

Ive watched one of the youtubers doing a 32 heat with butterfly yesterday

Was intense

[worldly mauve]

I don't even know how I finished 32 heat run.

I'm probs drunk without drinking

now i'm listening to daft punk

[north rock]

I’m really happy that skelly told me about god mode, now the game is much more enjoyable

[worldly mauve]

die more to get more enjoyment

[fallow niche]

What does god mode do again exactly? Gives a bunch of DR?

[blazing mulch]

yeach

[worldly mauve]

yup

caps at ||80%||

[fallow niche]

How do you increase it and what does it start at?

[blazing mulch]

starts at 20%

[worldly mauve]

just die

[fallow niche]

Oh.

[worldly mauve]

+||2%|| everytime

[north rock]

Ah thanks miyabi I couldn’t find out where it capped

[worldly mauve]

I tried to cap it lol.

np

[fallow niche]

With Dionysus's 20% DR at 40% life does that actually work out to 100% DR or is the math done separately?

[north rock]

I thought it was ||2%|| each time, at least that’s what I’ve been getting

[worldly mauve]

oh yeah black hanekawa you are right

sorry my mistake

[north rock]

If it’s the same forge, bronze skin or Aphrodite’s DR would be better wouldn’t it?

[worldly mauve]

all I know is god mode with in game DR are not addition.

[fallow niche]

They have a lesser base % @north rock

Also I like Dionysus's more since I use the skull earring a lot for damage

[north rock]

So you can’t become immune to damage is what your saying miyabi?

[worldly mauve]

yeah

[north rock]

That’s good

[fallow niche]

@worldly mauve Then its probably done afterwords

[worldly mauve]

well spearpoint can, but DR seems like it can't

[fallow niche]

Spearpoint makes it go to 100%?

[worldly mauve]

i think it's just a invincible status or something like that

[fallow niche]

Oh wait I was thinking of bracer

Spearpoint is just an invincible status yeah

Its like Athena's legendary

[worldly mauve]

yeah

[novel python]

Alright shield is broken,

I went through hydra 4 heat with only taking like 10 dmg

[worldly mauve]

as in 'too good that it's broken?'

agree

[novel python]

Also this might be my fastest run

11 mins and I'm in ely

[north rock]

Would Dionysus’ special vintage boon be over powered if it took into account all the nectar you had in your inventory?

[worldly mauve]

stack nectar and go crazy, yeah it would.

[novel python]

It would incentify nectar stacking

[north rock]

I cheesed the hydra one time using ares’ Call

Anyways I’m getting ahead of myself, how do I get more gems and blood

[worldly mauve]

farming...per heat per weapon

get the chest contract sometimes it's gonna be gems in it

and sometimes the shop have special exchange for gems.

[north rock]

What’s a heat?

[worldly mauve]

heat

heat level

[rich yoke]

pact of punishment after escaping for the first time, let's you increase the difficulty on your runs

[worldly mauve]

it increase the difficulty, but you get loots out of a run every heat.

and each weapon has different heat count.

[north rock]

I’ve been rolling nemesis blade, and I’ve beaten meg with the spear once

[worldly mauve]

well beat the whole game for once first and then it's about heats.

you'll get there

[north rock]

I don’t think I’m very good with the bow and rail

[worldly mauve]

oh well, play it for practise and fun once in a while but focus on your fav weapon is fine

[novel python]

Try to unlock hera bow and go for a cast build

[regal lark]

uuuuh https://streamable.com/bwo32

[worldly mauve]

and there are good aspects of those weapons that will help

just need more titan blood

[north rock]

^

I wish there were more mirror options personally

I just got my second death defy last night

Not including ||lucky tooth||

[novel python]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/457639241615409173/666362528854704139/unknown.png?width=861&height=485 what do yall think about my loadout at styx entrance?

[jagged portal]

so all % damage increases are additive not multiplicative?

[novel python]

^

[jagged portal]

even if its "you do 20% more damage" or w/e

[worldly mauve]

that duo is very sad consider you have more rare boons

[novel python]

Ive just got it at the end of ely

so theres that

[worldly mauve]

lol figures

[jagged portal]

So if I had 100% attack damage from a boon, 70% from a chaos boon and 60% increased damage from Eris aspect for example

my attack would do 230% damage?

[serene nexus]

I... think so? Not used to doing additive scaling on attacks

[worldly mauve]

i think .... so?

[novel python]

It takes the % from your BASE damage

Not from the damage you've already gotten

[jagged portal]

so the 60% increased damage would be 60% from the base of everything

[worldly mauve]

base X all %

[serene nexus]

Technically +60%

[jagged portal]

thats too bad

makes certain effects stack very poorly

[novel python]

So you're doing 10 damage base, if you get a 50% increase it goes to 15

if you get another one, it doesn't go to 22.5, it goes to 20

[serene nexus]

Think of it this way, you add all the scalings together so if you do 60 damage a 150% bonus would give you 150 damage

[jagged portal]

so eris aspect should pretty much always effects that have high base damage

[novel python]

because it's 10 + 5 + 5

[serene nexus]

Pretty much

[jagged portal]

ive been doing some modding. wonder if i can make some stuff multiplicative and see how ridiculously broken it is

have a surprising amount of modding power for a game still in alpha

early access*

[serene nexus]

But non-Hestia rails are more conducive to stuff like Zeus or Dio since their bad damage is so low that the percentage doesn’t really help that much

[worldly mauve]

yeah.

[serene nexus]

Aphrodite both has a high damage mult and weak so it’s pretty much BiS in most circumstances.

[worldly mauve]

high fire rate but really low base damage.

[serene nexus]

Of course, you can’t always get Aphrodite attack so you make do with attacks that give you a mult

[worldly mauve]

for railgun shots that is

[jagged portal]

posi rail with zeus duo is wonderful though

[serene nexus]

It is glorious

[worldly mauve]

feels like shotgun when you have the spread shot with poseidon knockback

even better with rupture etc

[serene nexus]

As soon as the new Olympian god shows up next week or so, odds are that we’re going to see a ton of-

[novel python]

^ that + 5 dashes

[serene nexus]

Oh god

[novel python]

And poseidon knockbacks on walls

[serene nexus]

Poseidon knockback on the shotgun augment with explosive shells

[novel python]

WHERE IS MY SCREEN?

[jagged portal]

are they adding in the rest of the duos on the next patch?

[novel python]

I CAN'T SEE ENEMIES

[full flame]

that's bad logic there

[worldly mauve]

get poseidon boons: I feel invincible! muhahahahaha

[full flame]

percent increase damage is the same no matter what

doesn't matter if you have fast small hits, or slow big hits

[serene nexus]

I’d imagine that if it’s the last Olympian that’s going to get added this should be the last set of duo boons provided we don’t see some major adjustments

[full flame]

a 50% damage increase is a 50% damage increase

[jagged portal]

no but it matters for non percent ones

as in, zeus attack is much better for rail

because it effectively adds a much higher % damage bonus

by adding flat damage

[full flame]

yes, flat damage increases matter

percent does not

[novel python]

||https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/457639241615409173/666366524717662238/unknown.png?width=857&height=484|| Sit.

[latent badger]

or kneel?

[novel python]

He tripped and got impaled by his own spear

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/457639241615409173/666367245332643843/unknown.png?width=302&height=484 how hard would a run with a point if one each of those would be

[jagged portal]

i dont know about hard but it would not be very fun

i despise no choice

[novel python]

I wanna cut down some time and do them all at once

Well I need to go through it at least once

[jagged portal]

tight deadline would be the issue there honestly

because otherwise you could just play safe and slow

[novel python]

My last run was 27 mins

Didn't even lose one DD

[jagged portal]

budget cuts and no choice makes you significantly weaker

[novel python]

Also customs id say

[jagged portal]

underworld customs and no choice are pretty good together though because you always end up with some garbage you dont want

[crimson geyser]

does using a death defiance absorb all overkill damage on Zag? or does that damage carry into the next life? i feel like it's the former but would be good to know, makes DD's that much more useful than just straight up health

[novel python]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/457639241615409173/666368227944693780/unknown.png shield please save me

[jagged portal]

@crimson geyser yes it absorbs it and sets you to 50%

well by default it sets you to 50%

[novel python]

Oh god budget cuts really cuts it short

How do I even deal with this, it takes away all my olympian favor and god's pride

[worldly mauve]

use common boons if you have to and level up boons harder

[compact niche]

I may never manage a timed run because boy does a timer stress me out

[novel python]

I cut off deep pockets to get privileged status

I'd be tilted without that

[jagged portal]

yea good call

cutting a lot of things down to not being maxed gives you a decent amount of value too

[worldly mauve]

yeah don't maxed them out

bit of this and bit of that

[jagged portal]

but im close to maxed out on my mirror because i played so much before everything else was added

so budget cuts is an incredible power drop for me

[novel python]

I was only missing fated

[pastel jolt]

you've overfilled on heat there anyway :P

[jagged portal]

he wants to finish the prophecy

[novel python]

I've just ate an elysium arrow with my face and lost a DD from half hp

Lovely

[jagged portal]

yep

i always have heightened security on max

[novel python]

thanks, +400% trap damage

[jagged portal]

so you learn to avoid traps like the plague

just like when you suddenly stop playing with forced overtime then try to do it at max again

and you get wrecked

[fallow niche]

Just completed my fated list

The fates have no more plans for me

I am free from destiny

[worldly mauve]

[jagged portal]

now time to do it all on hell mode!

[worldly mauve]

fate wants you to step on some ||banana and die||

[compact niche]

still in Tartarus and I have +3 casts, bloodstones drop in less than 5 seconds, and do 140 damage when dislodged. Clearly the game has a build in mind for me.

[worldly mauve]

fate has decided that you go beat the game

[final fox]

artemis is best girl

[novel python]

I've got 3 min to beat hades, I guess it's doable?

[worldly mauve]

i think so

even 2min is doable

[novel python]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/457639241615409173/666379153377067050/unknown.png?width=861&height=485

What happens if the timer runs off though, you start taking damage?

[final fox]

you start taking 5 damage per second

[novel python]

Ah

Does spearpoint stop the damage

[fallen quarry]

it bypasses invuln too

[novel python]

ah

fk

[fallen quarry]

and triggers death defy

[novel python]

well 3dds

let's pray

athena didn't want to give me the dash

but gave me 2 dds

Also patro saved my ass with the hydralite

[wooden lodge]

boss invulnerability periods are by far my least favorite part of Hades, which isn't saying much because they're also probably the only things I actively dislike

it's like ok the timer is still ticking down but lemme stop you from doing anymore damage because you reached this arbitrary moment in the battle

[fallow niche]

I think they're perfectly fine, they last for such a short amount of time it hardly matters

Its nothing like most other games

[fallen quarry]

without them though... they would just die on the spot

[wooden lodge]

they definitely do not last a short amount of time

[fallow niche]

Now whats real nonsense is the old man turning invisible

Now THAT is annoying

@wooden lodge they literally last for 1-2 seconds thats actually nothing lmao

[wooden lodge]

every time a fury sister goes invincible it's like 4 or 5 seconds, which adds up to nearly thirty seconds across the typical battle

[fallow niche]

something is wrong with your game

[wooden lodge]

hades is even worse

[fallow niche]

hades has the longest i'll say that, first form invincibility lasts a while

[jagged portal]

i think you might be overestimating a bit there

[wooden lodge]

he disappears offscreen, then when he returns and you start whaling on him, he also goes invincible

[fallow niche]

the disappear stuff lasts way longer though

and is super annoying

he can do it a ton of times too

[jagged portal]

hades only goes invincible at certain hp thresholds

[wooden lodge]

I understand the mechanics

I know why they go invincible

that doesn't make waiting for the invuln to disappear fun or engaging

[worldly mauve]

but i hate the waste of time still

[wooden lodge]

I'd rather have like, idk, a volley of attacks come flying at me from offscreen or something

[fallen quarry]

but they already do

[worldly mauve]

'dad, you done posing yet?'

[wooden lodge]

so I have to choose between assaulting the boss or dodging to save hp

[kindred bolt]

if it doesn't go invincible sometimes, you will kill it in like 30 seconds with a good build

[novel python]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/457639241615409173/666380499542999060/unknown.png?width=861&height=485 he would be proud indeed :^)

[fallen quarry]

my last hades fight took 30 seconds as is...

[wooden lodge]

why is killing the boss in under thirty seconds with a good build a bad thing

[fallen quarry]

well, more like 34, but still

[novel python]

I mean, look at the dude speedrunning

And how he kills hydra

[kindred bolt]

because you already can kill him in 30 seconds with an op build

[novel python]

It blew my mind

[kindred bolt]

a little more op, and you will kill him in 10 seconds

[wooden lodge]

good

reward me for my skill at the game

[kindred bolt]

skill or pressing x for 10 seconds till dead?

[wooden lodge]

understanding the game mechanics and crafting the op build is skill, yes

[novel python]

^ world splitter nemesis build in a nutshell

[solid cairn]

I have super low heat on shield but I just don’t want to grind heat with it because it’s painfully boring

[fallow niche]

choosing to dodge or assault the boss

I dodge into their face to get dash attacks

stuffs good yo

[novel python]

Or choosing to bull rush through the boss

[kindred bolt]

its the most op weapon

[novel python]

When he's attacking you

[solid cairn]

Shield needs a rework

[worldly mauve]

so chopping is skill?

[kindred bolt]

i have 10 runs on the shield, 9 wins and the one i quit

[worldly mauve]

nice I'm skilled

[solid cairn]

World splitter is skill if you want it to be

[novel python]

I feel like you can't lose with chaos shield

[fallow niche]

just choose a different shield or weapon entirely if you're bored of it

that's why there are plenty of weapons

lmao

[kindred bolt]

it is hard to lose with it

i never have

[jagged portal]

i dont really use the shield

doesnt really feel fun to me

[kindred bolt]

i quit once because i didn't like my x skill and wanted a redo but thats it

[solid cairn]

I am aware I could get easy blood with shield

[novel python]

What happens if I max the relationship with Meg through Ambro too?

[solid cairn]

But like I don’t want to do that

[kindred bolt]

its my least played too, but thats because i win everytime with it

[fallow niche]

@novel python #h1-story-discussion

[kindred bolt]

I personally just want a fire god in this game, i swear I'd pay 100 dollars

[novel python]

Ah aight

[jagged portal]

well we dont know what the new god is

[solid cairn]

I pretty much have every aspect I like maxed

[kindred bolt]

its demeter they say

[solid cairn]

Aka all sword and rail ones

[kindred bolt]

rail is my least favourite, i hate the reload mechanic, i love with it never have to reload though

[fallow niche]

rail is great

[solid cairn]

So I’m kind of screwed at high heat

[jagged portal]

could be heph but seems unlikely since we have daedalus

supergiant said that its demeter?

[solid cairn]

But I also have zag spear maxed

So I can use that for high heat

[fallow niche]

Rail is fun

[kindred bolt]

i just hate reloading, once i get never have to reload, i love it

[fallen quarry]

when it comes to reloading for the rail, I strongly suggest finding what button you like for reload to be on, and keeping in mind you can dash while reloading

[fallow niche]

Same

[solid cairn]

I press L3 for reload

[kindred bolt]

sometimes it comes with 3 bombs and i just say screw it, i must reload and ill keep the op 3 bombs

[solid cairn]

I use Hestia the most

[fallow niche]

I press

R

on my keyboard

🙂

[fallen quarry]

Mines a button on my mouse

[solid cairn]

I can’t use mouse in this game

I tried

I feel like the game was made for controller

and it probably was

[novel python]

Tried controller

r

Dash attacks

are iffy

af

[fallow niche]

Mouse is bugged if you leave the default settings on

[jagged portal]

i like being able to aim

[fallow niche]

I turned it off and its great

[kindred bolt]

dash attacks are iffier on a controller

[fallen quarry]

I don't like the 8 direction movement from the keyboard, but without being able to control your aim and movement differently, the controller can't pull off a lot of the stuff the mouse and keyboard can

[novel python]

@fallow niche you mean the auto aim?

[kindred bolt]

i can't count how many times i dashed into lava

[solid cairn]

Ok I’ll try it

[novel python]

I took that off

pissed me hard

[fallow niche]

nah the windowed thing @novel python

auto aim is fine most of the time

[novel python]

wdym

[fallow niche]

I turn it off on some weps

[novel python]

it's not

screws up with my aiming on bow

[fallow niche]

Mouse Lock

Is a setting

And it doesn't work

It just throttles the mouse

[worldly mauve]

auto aim some times kinda mess it up with mouse tho?

[novel python]

^

[fallen quarry]

auto aim can be turned off

[solid cairn]

Ok I’m gonna use kbm and make use of my mouse buttons

[novel python]

Messes up hard time when I play bow

but i turned it off

[solid cairn]

When I play

[fallow niche]

I keep it on except for shield and bow runs

[worldly mauve]

but seems better with controller

[fallow niche]

Its unfair with Rail

[novel python]

@solid cairn if you've got multiple buttons on mouse try to bind them accordingly

[fallow niche]

Mmmm aimbots

[novel python]

I have special on rmb and cast on m5

Oh and companion on wheel

[fallen quarry]

I really do want to use a controller, but it's just brutal the movement aim thing on one stick...

[turbid needle]

Ooohh, I should try summon on wheel.

Hm.

[worldly mauve]

there's auto-aim so wasn't that bad

[fallen quarry]

It's no wonder so many hate sword dash and such

if you can't put the attack where it needs to be

[novel python]

Tbh I cba to use keyboard for anything other than moving and dashing around

So I bound my stuff on mous

e

[kindred bolt]

i didn't even know there was auto aim

i might try to turn it off, see how i feel about it

[worldly mauve]

don't you feel your aim has its own thoughts

[solid cairn]

Big brain is changing controls for each weapon

Bind dash to alt and attack to f4

[kindred bolt]

so does anyone know what they have planned for this update other than a new god? they are saying its a big patch

[solid cairn]

4th aspects maybe

Contractor rework?

[worldly mauve]

I'm not comfy with 1 being companions.but i don't know where else to put it either.

[kindred bolt]

i hope so, but i doubt it

[solid cairn]

Quality of life things probably

[worldly mauve]

meh guess i'll just have to get used to it

[solid cairn]

Which is cool

[novel python]

@worldly mauve bind the companion to the goddamn mouse wheel

It's very accessible

[worldly mauve]

scroll up scroll down with middle button you mean?

[fallen quarry]

My use of the companions at least, they are planned out, not sporadic, so I'll be ready to hit the button for it and have things lined up.

[novel python]

Nah

Press it.

[worldly mauve]

i'm having problem clicking the middle button so...

[novel python]

Ah

[worldly mauve]

i assigned special to M5

having problem with M4 too..

my poor tiny hand.

[fallen quarry]

Lol, yeah, there's trail and error finding out what's comfortable

I changed mine up a few times before finding what I liked for controls

[worldly mauve]

try and fail is what i do

ended up using only M5 and rest are default key binding most of the time.

[novel python]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/457639241615409173/666385994609590272/unknown.png going for a poseidon cast build, is quick reload better or burst shot?

Which one opens me for the legendary?

Nevermind I've just checked both of them work

[fallen quarry]

https://prnt.sc/qn8bgr The sole reason to use mouse and keyboard, heh

oh interesting, cursor doesn't display, I was hovering over attack at cursor

[novel python]

Bouldy just gave me cast damage bonus 5% when doing a cast run, thanks buddy!

[fallow niche]

@novel python Burst

Specialing the enemy with the sword releases all of the cast ammo

No reason to ever get quick reload

[novel python]

Ye took burst, especially for that

[fallow niche]

Yeah

Its insane burst

The REAL insane DPS is the damage when it falls out boon

[novel python]

Yeah I know but I need to get more arte for that

[fallow niche]

That and Artemis cast alone can beat the whole game

[novel python]

I'm turning the sword into a machine gun

[fallow niche]

No you don't

Just True Shot alone lets you get Exit wounds

[novel python]

There is only a slight issue ... I still have the chaos boon that damages me when I cast, I need to beat tisi without casts

[fallow niche]

Oof

[novel python]

damn you, chaos

[fallow niche]

Not sure if I would have taken that chaos boon

[celest ibex]

Try and grab that rapid cast from Hermes if you can!

[fallow niche]

You don't really need more casts since you can just release them, though it is nice

And taking 5 life per cast is

[novel python]

ive used them in last phase though

and cheesed the fact htat it cant kill you

Hmm alright, what else do I need, aphro attack gives me the arte aphro duo right?

nevermind I need the strike or flourish for that

from arte

[fallow niche]

I actually try and go full Artemis if I can

[novel python]

ill try to get the athena duo if possible

[fallow niche]

Athena otherwise for dash and duo

yeah

Its real good

Crit for 1.5k or more

poms are also very good on this build

upgrade that cast woo

[novel python]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/457639241615409173/666389490042011669/unknown.png?width=864&height=485 crappy choices though

[turbid needle]

Holy Shield is great, as is Divine Strike for getting you Deadly Reversal.

[fallow niche]

^

Divine strike

Want that reversal @novel python

Its more important than the dash imho

Cast build lets you spam from far away and only dip in when you have the chance to release the cast ammo and do it again

Its the only build where I feel like I can completely ignore athena if I really want to

Also Strike is good for getting Exposed status for more Priv damage

On top of the duo

[wooden lodge]

holy shield and deflect dash are great

combo holy shield with the artifact that grants 1.5s of invuln when you get hit

together they can make you last like 3x longer than usual

[novel python]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/457639241615409173/666391718190383104/unknown.png?width=861&height=485 game hates me, I WANT THE DASHES TOO AAAAA

wouldve been an easier choice if only one of these were presented

[serene nexus]

Oof. The first two are hard choices when you’re running Poseidon Sword

[novel python]

Just as I said

Took the flurry

Now I'm praying to get bonus dashes laster

later*

I only have 1 hermes boon taken

[fallow niche]

Dash

You don't need cast speed its already so fast

Tho it is quality of life

Depends if you have anything decent on your dash I suppose

[novel python]

No dash yet 😦

As in no dash boon

oh nvm I have zue

zeus

I'm an idiot

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/457639241615409173/666395245537394738/unknown.png hard choice again ..

but id say more casts would yield more damage than the dislodge

[fallow niche]

exit wounds probably

you can get the cast ammo back remember

special gets them all out

and instantly dislodge damages them

[novel python]

Still, it's only 480 damage, that's the damage of a single cast

[fallow niche]

that is true

[novel python]

and I'll have 7

[fallow niche]

yeah just get a bunch

[solid cairn]

Exit wounds with Poseidon sword is op

[novel python]

Might be, but it was too late, the damage was too low

[full flame]

fully loaded over exit wounds definitely

initial cast damage is always going to be better than the exit wounds

so better to have more ammo

[fallow niche]

Problem is that the DPS is marginal on poseidon sword

[novel python]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/457639241615409173/666397830876758029/unknown.png?width=862&height=484 well indeed, it worked as intended

[fallow niche]

Since you can get back the ammo immediately

Yee

How fast was Hades

[novel python]

But you need to get yourself in danger in order to get it back

2nd phase was like.. 20 secs?

max

[fallow niche]

Yeah

exactly

Its extremely fast boss killing

[novel python]

as in, I've loaded all my casts into him and used fully charged arte call

popped to half hp in 2 secs

[fallow niche]

lmao

[novel python]

And that was the damage WITHOUT privileged status.

[fallow niche]

I try and get to 30% hp for earring to clear it fast and he can go down, all phases, like in a minute

less than

[novel python]

I have a feeling that you can get a cast build going with Eris too

Because of the bonus damage

Alright, Flurry, Slow on special or Piercing

All 3 are prophecy

Since I didn't really play with rail

[fallow niche]

Slow

It applies the slow the moment you place the AoE before it even hits

If you're doing a cast build of course

[novel python]

Not a cast build, just a 2 heat Eris build

If it becomes a cast build then so be it

But I still wanna have fun with support fire on rail

[final fox]

flurry is really good for flat damage effects on eris rail

but slow on special is amazing for crowd control, e.g. chariots in elysium

[novel python]

If I take flurry I won't be able to get spread later right

[sand glade]

Is Tipsy Shot really all I need to get High Tolerance?

[final fox]

i'm not sure if flurry and spread are incompatible

I think they are

but the multiple hits of spread shot won't create multiple support fire arrows

or multiple zeus lighting hits

they will cause multiple poison stacks

[opal bay]

@sand glade I think you need the how was it called? The Dem's boon for replacement of cast. Feastive Fog was it?

[tough girder]

How do you get more Titan Blood?

[opal bay]

By doing bounties. Up the heat level, make sure you have completed the list for the weapon before upping the heat level itself though. You get 2 Titan blood each full successful run. Can get more if you are lucky and stack up 1k gold in the run before the 4th stage or buy one from the house.

[final fox]

by beating the game and unlocking the pact of punishment

[sand glade]

@opal bay I need to first REPLACE my cast with Festive Fog? I guess I'm not clearing that prophecy then.

[opal bay]

High Tolerance basically reduces the damage you get in Festive Fog if I remember my last run correctly so yeah.

Funny thing I just cleared the prophecy this weekend lol

[tough girder]

What are bouties again? ^^" @opal bay

[opal bay]

By completing the stage, which is done by defeating the boss of it, you get rewarded first time with titan blood, diamond, the thingy and titan blood again and it's the same for each weapon. You can't earn the same reward however by using the same weapon, unless if you were to up the heat a bit.

[ebon thistle]

The thingy is the ambrosia

I think

[tough girder]

So, switching weapon everytime works?

[sand glade]

I kinda just wanna get High Tolerance to clear the prophecy. It wouldn't be effective for me.

[opal bay]

First time yes, second time no, you will have to up the heat level on each weapon to gain more titan blood.

[tough girder]

Thanks¨!

[opal bay]

No problem

Well I wish you luck, Juine! It can get bit tiring to not get it, but you should eventually get it if you keep going for the same god with the needed boon first.

[icy sedge]

question : what happens if you run out of time on Tight Deadline?

[unkempt pagoda]

you start taking damage that can be lethal

it doesn't insta-gib you, but it's pretty fast

[icy sedge]

like lava damage?

[wet sparrow]

Holy crap 106 runs in I finally found Chaos' Legendary boon!

[fallow niche]

I don't think he has a legendary boon

[timber tiger]

I can't tell if maxing out hera bow is what messed up multicasting or flurry shot

Either way now my hera bow sucks 😦

[pastel jolt]

@fallow niche they do, you need at least one of their boons already to be able to get it

[fallow niche]

Really? I assume you mean the defiance one then

[pastel jolt]

yes

[fallow niche]

Its not listed as legendary on the wiki nor having any requirements, but I just guess that's the wiki being incomplete then

I've only seen it a few times and I never chose it

[unkempt pagoda]

ye it got changed when defiances were revised

[fallow niche]

What was it like before?

Or rather, whats the difference I guess

[pastel jolt]

defiances didn't used to have a cap of three

[fallow niche]

👀

[pastel jolt]

so it was just a regular boon that gave you an extra death defy

[fallow niche]

Oh so it doesn't go above the cap of three

[pastel jolt]

now that there's a cap of three, most sources of death defy were changed to replenish one

chaos's legendary, on the other hand, still gives an extra

[fallow niche]

OH

I was about to say if it doesn't that doesn't seem like a legendary boon

[pastel jolt]

yeah you used to be able to go into the boss fights with, like, nine death defies

[fallow niche]

hahahahaha

thats so dumb

you'd be literally impossible to kill

[pastel jolt]

aaaaand that's why it was changed ;P

[fallow niche]

Good change

And its good Chaos's boon didn't

That's legit special

[crimson geyser]

how does poison stacking work?

[pastel jolt]

it's hard to see but here's someone else's screenshot

[fallow niche]

It does the combined stacks damage per tick @crimson geyser

[crimson geyser]

rather, poison effects with different DPS i should say

[fallow niche]

Oh

I have absolutely not clue

[crimson geyser]

do higher dps take precedence? do lower dps ones come into effect for the remainder of the time if a shorter duration higher DPS one expires?

[fallow niche]

I think they just stack normally till its full and you can't add more until one runs out? I... have no clue nor any idea how to test this

[crimson geyser]

dang

[fallow niche]

I tend to only run one source of poison

[hollow sorrel]

I think someone was sad that the last poison dps counts, even if it's lower. Like, he had a normal poison, and the poison call, and the normal poison overrode the much higher call poison because he did it afterwards

I think they normally stack to 5, but there is a boon that increases the cap by a few

To be fair though...

I'm not sure if it's the last dps, or if the newer stacks just drop off the older stacks

[timber tiger]

The real trick to getting high poison damage is going for the 50% extra from two status effects

[fallow niche]

Privileged Position

[hollow sorrel]

like, if you had 4 poison call stacks, and afterwards did a normal poison stack... how probably have 4 high dps stacks and 1 low dps stack

how probably -> you probably

like, I can't imagine the last poison source actually overriding the dps of all the stacks

by just one stack

[obsidian abyss]

I just started playing the game 2 days ago and have 4 wins, all with divine dash. The game feels extremely hard without it. Am I just bad?

[fallen quarry]

there's a lot to get used to, athena is very user friendly though

[hollow sorrel]

The Athena dash is a bit overtuned. Having it deflect, and give a lot more invincibility frames, at the same time, is a bit much for one boon

[fallen quarry]

being familiar with the enemies is the easiest way to stop relying on athena

[obsidian abyss]

I understand all the enemies patterns, I just don’t have the reflexes and iframe timing skills to beat the game yet w/o some kind of broken defense ability

I think Athena dash should have its damaged reduced to like, 5. Still very good but now at least it pushes you to a less aggro play style

[fallow niche]

Athena dash is extremely powerful and a good tool to use to learn without getting punished too much

[fallen quarry]

the game itself leans towards rewarding aggressive play

[fallow niche]

The game is honestly very easy once you get the ropes, and especially once you upgrade your mirror

And yeah it does

[fallen quarry]

when timed right, at least

[timber tiger]

It's also one of the few dashes that weren't nerfed in the Great Dash Nerf

[fallow niche]

I can consistently finish runs without Athena dash but it certainly helps a ton

[timber tiger]

and so it feels overtuned next to the nerfed dashes

[fallow niche]

Honestly the dash itself should have its i-frames buffed so we don't have to rely on the Athena dash so much

[fallen quarry]

personally, the thing that makes the game the fastest for me, is grabbing an athena call, because it lets me attack during times I'd have to be avoiding otherwise, making it both the most defensive and offensive call at the same time, lol

[fallow niche]

Athena call is a top tier call

I use it a lot

[obsidian abyss]

The game does reward aggressive play but the runs where you do things in a different way are the most interesting imo. Rail gun with the rocket upgrade and 300 percent special damage with Poseidon had a really fun kiting run. Or trying to use sniper shot

[fallow niche]

Allows me to run in the face of every boss

[obsidian abyss]

All the calls feel so good tbh

[hollow sorrel]

The Athena dash rewards panic dashing; where you don't actually time the dash correctly, but instead just mash the dash button when something scary happens near you

[fallen quarry]

but yeah, top in slot boons aside, there are a lot of ways to play the game out, some just mean you can

can't run some heat options

[obsidian abyss]

I’m a panic dasher, absolutely

Hard not to be. Game happens so quickly

[fallow niche]

The problem is that the i-frame window is so small and awkward in dashes that I honestly can't be assed to use it @hollow sorrel

Not only that, but other dashes encourage you to panic dash too! You want to spam that dash to get all the DPS in as possible

Faster the enemy is dead, the less damage they can deal back

Poseidon dash is also nuts

[obsidian abyss]

Also is it just me or does ares Artemis combo suck

[fallow niche]

Which one?

Her duo?

[fallen quarry]

I hate ares everything so...

[obsidian abyss]

Yeah the duo

[fallow niche]

Oh ares artemis

WAIT YOU SAID IT SUCKS?

YO

its one of the most busted things in the game

[left timber]

Yeah dashes shouldn't deal raw damage

Or perhaps any form of damage

[obsidian abyss]

Wait really? I had bonus cast damage from chaos and I still felt like my FPS was garbage

Dps

Not fps

[hollow sorrel]

having them deal at least 1 damage helps out against the blue hearts and the raw swarms though

rat

[fallow niche]

Cast builds delete rooms

Especially if you have the seeking blades

Not sure why you weren't getting damage but its really good

[fallen quarry]

I agree with you poodle.

[obsidian abyss]

Next time I have, I will try. Probably was just using it badly

[fallow niche]

Try and upgrade the cast itself with poms

And if you can get the Ares legendary with it oh lord

Will kill the final boss in moments

You will spend 90% of the fight on his i-frames

[obsidian abyss]

What is area legendary? Haven’t seen it

[fallow niche]

It makes the blades damage increase every single tick of damage they deal

[obsidian abyss]

Spicy af

[fallow niche]

So each instance of damage deals more and more damage

It quickly gets out of control

Its also good with Ares call

Its hard to get though

[obsidian abyss]

Ares call is fun but still feels worse than other calls

[fallow niche]

It doesn't deal a lot of damage but it makes a good panic button for being invulnerable

[obsidian abyss]

Yeah

[fallow niche]

Ares's doom damage is the real spice

[fallen quarry]

by those standards though.. I still think it sucks, because when you don't get key parts of it, it's horrible, and comparing a super lucky build running it to a super lucky build running anything else, ares is still weak.

[fallow niche]

The blades suck unless you get artemis duo or his legendary

Which is why I never build them

But if it ever comes along then its insane

Also doom damage is one of the best sources of DPS in the game, so saying Ares is weak is just @fallen quarry

[obsidian abyss]

Ares and Poseidon are in a weird state imo. Ares is very synergistic and Poseidon needs a lot of stuff to really go off, but Poseidon can’t get too strong because then oceans bounty will just dominate everything

[fallow niche]

Poseidon needs buffs, Ares is the meta

[obsidian abyss]

Doom is good? On what weapons?

[fallen quarry]

lol, have you run crit builds?

[fallow niche]

All

It does a massive amount of flat damage

[obsidian abyss]

Do u fight a specific way or something?

[fallow niche]

They go insane with poms too

I mean

You can take advantage of it

And do hit and run

But you can also just use it to augment your DPS

And keep reapplying the buff

Mind you when they have Doom on them it counts towards Priv Pos

[fallen quarry]

not saying it isn't fun... but on a dps scale, it's very low.

[fallow niche]

Extra 50% damage

On top of a crit build is not mutually exclusive

[obsidian abyss]

I’ll try it I guess. Definitely good with the bow

[fallow niche]

Art/Ares is the best combo in the game for DPS

[fallen quarry]

well, have fun with that I suppose.

[fallow niche]

Well, Art/Ares/Ath

If you get all the duos then you win

[obsidian abyss]

Art/Zagreus is the best combo in the game for shipping

[turbid needle]

Most things involving artemis, really

[fallen quarry]

no joke, I had them and the 3 duos in one run

[turbid needle]

Crits are huge

[fallow niche]

It goes Athena>Artemis>Ares>everything else

[fallen quarry]

and my thought at the end was, now I don't need them for the fated list ever again.

[fallow niche]

Poseidon in last place

[obsidian abyss]

tfw no wilderness hunter gf

[trim snow]

Why isnt it a dusa/zag ship!?

[fallow niche]

That too

[obsidian abyss]

Get out of here with your garbage taste

[left timber]

oy vey

[obsidian abyss]

Zagreus and Duda have a massive power imbalance, no chemistry, and Duda isn’t even cute. Fight me.

Why does it autocorrect dusa

[royal yarrow]

Just write Medusa

Yes

[turbid needle]

or Maidusa

[trim snow]

Zagdusa

[fallen quarry]

just wait, by the release, zag will have a harem.

[obsidian abyss]

Nodusa

[royal yarrow]

I ship zagxbow

Best pair ever

And bow is so sexy

[obsidian abyss]

Zag and maegara are great together as well

[royal yarrow]

And curvy

😍

[fallow niche]

Oh yeah forgot another pairing, @obsidian abyss : Dionysus and Aphrodite. That specific combo is absurd too

[trim snow]

Zagsisters? Murder!

[fallow niche]

PrivPos is a nuts buff

[trim snow]

Love them poms

[obsidian abyss]

Y’all remember the first time you fought maegara after the pact of punishment? She says the most bdsm thing

[fallow niche]

I'm too busy from her sister (not the murder-y one) constantly talking about bdsm stuff

[obsidian abyss]

👄👄👄👄👅👅👅👅🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍

Wait, Alecto?

[fallow niche]

Yeah

[icy sedge]

She has issues

[obsidian abyss]

I haven’t really noticed her being flirty

[icy sedge]

mental issues

[trim snow]

I thought it was just blood stuff

[fallow niche]

Alecto is the kind of girl to always be horny on main

[obsidian abyss]

Accurate

[fallow niche]

She totally has horny dialog and its like u wot m8

and zag wants none of it

"please go away"

LMAO

[trim snow]

Need more hearts with her is all

[obsidian abyss]

It’s supply and demand man. The more coochie he gets, the less he wants

[fallow niche]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSO1wQWDv5A

jesus thats fast

Ares > Athena so far, ignored Artemis entirely

So much Athena

Wait he's speedrunning on 10 heat too? Is there a heat modifier that increases speed?

[turbid needle]

As far as I know, running the time limit penalty makes survival rooms not appear

but outside of that I dunno

oh that counts as a swear ok

[pastel jolt]

the condition that makes enemies faster too

[turbid needle]

anyways, that hydra fight tho

[pastel jolt]

uh

[turbid needle]

oh, Forced overtime, yeah that one too

[pastel jolt]

my guy, the second swear is what got you caught out there.

[turbid needle]

must've missed it, my b then

regardless

That is one great run

and shows how powerful the ares athena duo is

[fallow niche]

I just spend a good minute thinking about what heat modifier was called 'second swear' before I remembered the Proxy bot automoderates swearing

[turbid needle]

yeah

Imagine if it was an actual penalty in game LOL

[fallow niche]

lmaooo

"no swearing +1 heat"

[turbid needle]

Or even better

" Let Theseus narrate your run +3 heat "

[fallow niche]

oh god

i dont know if i would hate that or love that

does he speak from his chariot instead if you also have extreme measures 3?

[turbid needle]

He'd be even more smug in EM 3

A hidden combo if you will

[fallow niche]

"What a pathetic attempt at combat here! Perhaps you would do better if you too had a chariot, but alas you are not worthy of such a thing!"

lmao

I can just imagine him never shutting up about the chariot

[turbid needle]

That'd be fantastic

And probably worth more heat for some

I can just imagine him accusing you of cheating when you win against Asterius

in the mini-boss fight

[spice falcon]

I am not very good at searching in Discord because I'm old - can you tell me how I can fix the "999 more conversations needed with Hades" thing? I've seen it mentioned before on Reddit, but there were no replies to the thread. Issue being, on my save, Hades started out with 999 conversations needed for the compendium, and after playing for 60 hours, it's still at 950. Unless this is intentional?

[timber tiger]

It's a placeholder

until more stuff gets added

[spice falcon]

Ah, so it's not a bug, and it's like this for everyone?

[timber tiger]

Yep

[spice falcon]

Ah, that's a relief.

Thank you so much.

I thought my save was bugged!

[muted needle]

Yes only 750 more conversations and then I get to complain to the devs that nothing happens

Or maybe something happens

Who knows

🤷‍♂️

[timber tiger]

"you've inanely talked to me 999 times, you wretch"