Nvm I meant Artemis
#h1-builds-and-combat
stray frigate
btw about athena cast
native ether
lmao my Aphrodite Cast run disagrees with you
frozen panther
on every god damn thing
spare cobalt
Poseidon works for any cast damage build.
stray frigate
why does he has such long animation
fading sandal
not with dion
solid cairn
Only chads use dio cast
frozen panther
aphro cast 
spare cobalt
So long as it involves stuck casts, of course.
novel tapir
isn't nemesis only crit on attack
solid cairn
Nemesis is ok
frozen panther
35% crit after u special
solid cairn
I mean it’s fun as hell
frozen panther
35%
fading sandal
nemesis is soo good though
frozen panther
35%
fading sandal
with world splitter
novel tapir
yeah but isn't it for your attacks
fading sandal
it's sooooo goood
frozen panther
GOD DAMN 35 PERCENT
spare cobalt
Now, Nemesis, there's an aspect that wants Artemis.
solid cairn
Like aphro
fading sandal
atremis all the way
frozen panther
Bow gets a stupid 10% crit
fading sandal
i wanna see big numbers
solid cairn
Or arte
novel tapir
I mean you can get 35 percent crit or deal a bajillion damage with your cast
solid cairn
Nemesis is just if you want massive damage
frozen panther
Big numbers is ares athena and ares artemis
biggest of numbers
numbers so thicc
solid cairn
I switch between nemesis and Poseidon depending on the day
native ether
If you would like to see big numbers
frozen panther
i play the sword depending on... oh wait sword sucks
native ether
try Explosive Shot on the bow with Artemis Crit and Heart Rend
frozen panther
solid cairn
Poseidon has the potential to be much better
fading sandal
explosive with double shot is great
solid cairn
Than nem
fading sandal
lmao
solid cairn
You like skelly huh
serene nexus
Quick question. What should you spend the 5 titans bloods on before your first full escape? I think I might have screwed myself over...
fading sandal
hahahahha
spare cobalt
You'll get plenty of titan blood over time, don't worry too much about spending it here or there to try things out.
serene nexus
I got Hades Spear, Zag Bow level 1, and Nemesis sword
frozen panther
you get like 20 from the fated list
10 and 10 i think
plus all the ones from the pact
serene nexus
I’m asking thins because I heard that you don’t get more than five until you beat the game at least once
frozen panther
5 weapons, each gives bounties until like 20 heat?
native ether
yes and no
frozen panther
dont remember
serene nexus
I don’t have heat unlocked since I didn’t beat the final boss yet. Furthest I’ve gotten was final boss of Elysium
spare cobalt
Hades spear and Nemesis sword are both powerful DPS weapons. Spear's harder to use, but can also get you some very fast and forgiving runs.
frozen panther
but aspects unlock after beating the game the first time dont they?
or unlocking all weapons?
jesus my memory sucks
native ether
Aspects unlock after you unlock each weapon and do 1 more run
serene nexus
Had I had an extra life (or gotten one from Charon) I would have made it past them
Unlock all weapons
frozen panther
just spend them into zag aspect on sword
serene nexus
The one time he sold an extra life I was one coin short...
fading sandal
you can unlock an aspect
test it
then go to main menu
and reload
just don't go out of the room
native ether
You can get up to 5 Titan Blood from beating the Furies with each weapon.
2 From Defeating Every Miniboss in the game at least once (Fated List)
Final boss also drops Titan Blood, so theoretically you can get that 1 more when you beat the game.
You can also trade all your Ambrosia into Titan Blood, giving you up to 5 more.
fading sandal
just try them out first
serene nexus
If I remember, Ambrosia is some sort of social gift thing, right?
native ether
Ambrosia is but its so late game you could afford to trade away your first 5 for more blood
fading sandal
you should report me cheating in pierce for chiron bow
native ether
My tip is to pick your favorite weapon and unlock the unique aspects (bottom 2) for it. That would be 3 blood, leaving you 2 to place elsewhere.
frozen panther
I traded a lot of ambrosia
fading sandal
lagged my game out
frozen panther
X)
serene nexus
Shield makes the hardest mob for me (shield spirits) trivial to beat.
frozen panther
worst enemies in the game... chariots, spreaders, shield bearers
fading sandal
and it can beat the suicide chariots
stray frigate
shieldman is weak after his combo
fading sandal
i hate those
native ether
Shield Bearers? May I introduce you to Support Fire Rail :kappa:
frozen panther
but its hell on earth for beginners
native ether
Fun Fact. All Artemis projectiles ignore shields.
fading sandal
i hate those
native ether
Fun Fact. All Artemis projectiles ignore shields.
stray frigate
catchariot can suicide in the wall
frozen panther
which is why Arty is best girl
native ether
including her cast
fading sandal
who uses artemis call anyway
native ether
Artemis is best girl, finally someone who agrees.
fading sandal
who uses artemis call anyway
stray frigate
and big chariots is a problem yeah
native ether
Artemis is best girl, finally someone who agrees.
fading sandal
who uses artemis call anyway
spare cobalt
Artemis cast makes shish kebabs out of shield guys.
stray frigate
and big chariots is a problem yeah
frozen panther
EXCUSE ME
native ether
Artemis is best girl, finally someone who agrees.
stray frigate
Dio is the best girl
frozen panther
This man just trash talked ma girl's call
native ether
Artemis call is significantly better than I remember it being but its still not as good as Zeus, Dio, or Aphro's call
spare cobalt
The Artemis/Aphrodite duo conversation is adorable.
stray frigate
artemida call just burst so hard
native ether
It is oh my god
mild crag
Artemis best tsun
novel tapir
The artemis call at 1 bar really sucks
I wish it was different
I would pick it more often
spare cobalt
Zaggy and Arty, sitting in a tree, H U N T I N G
native ether
which is why you dont use it at one :p
mild crag
Her call does suck tho tehe
novel tapir
and the max one usually overkills
frozen panther
better than stupid aphrodite
native ether
the only calls i use at one level are Dio and Zeus
frozen panther
native ether
excuse you
fading sandal
i use ares at 1 call
native ether
Aphrodite call max with Eris Rail does 4000 Damage
Fun fact
That is half of Theseus' health
frozen panther
aphro can suck it
fading sandal
lewd
native ether
almost half, Theseus has 9000 health
native ether
Ironically though, Theseus is the only boss as far as I can tell that receives a health boost from Extreme Measures
he goes up to a staggering 12000 in chariot mode
fading sandal
how did you die?
frozen panther
called at like the last moment in a fight, i killed the thing and then it somehow targeted me
happened to others as well
fading sandal
what? ahahahha
native ether
pretty sure that's been fixed lol
fading sandal
love hurts, baybeee
frozen panther
pulls a video posted like 2 days ago
doesnt seem like it
lost a death defiance to that
native ether
Charm has been notoriously buggy in the past for doing large hits of damage to the player because a charmed enemy rarely could still damage the player (and charmed enemies do more damage to make their attacks actually affect enemies)
novel tapir
oh dude
frozen panther
just delete aphro ty
native ether
Pretty sure all those bugs were fixed though
frozen panther
frozen panther
Literally happened to a YouTuber 2 days ago in this patch
novel tapir
I was so shocked
native ether
But if that happens, immediately press F10 and report it please.
fading sandal
how am i gonna survive without HALVING my enemies' damage???
frozen panther
Git gud lol
thorny edge
aphro best olympian
fading sandal
aphro is the oldest milf
native ether
Aphrodite is definitely the best Olympian in the game lol. Artemis is my favorite and she's great but Aphro boons are by far the overall most generally helpful.
fading sandal
she's like the oldest olympian
stray frigate
nyx is older
frozen panther
fading sandal
didn't she spawn from waves or something
mild crag
I like the lore that Achilles even says aphrodite is the most powerful of the olympians
fading sandal
she's not even divine???
spare cobalt
What are you talking about Dusa is absolutely divine.
mild crag
Dusa just some random gorgon hed
frozen panther
Cerberus best character in the game. you can't argue with facts
novel tapir
I really want dusa to show some emotion at least once
fading sandal
left head is best head
novel tapir
Like snap at someone and start yelling
fading sandal
fite me
mild crag
Dusa is literally nothing but emotion
native ether
Aphrodite has going for her:
- Easiest to apply debuff on all level 1 boons minus aid
- Highest Base Damage modifiers in the game
- Life Affirmation existing
- Best debuff in the game (50% damage reduction which can be easily made to last literal years with her boons. No other debuff is better)
- Some of the Best Duo Boons in the game that scale well with other builds. (Heart Rend, Low Tolerance, Spent Spirit, Sweet Nectar)
- The highest base damage aid ability in the game which can singlehandedly skip an entire boss phase given you give it a full charge.
The only thing Aphro doesn't have going for her is that in all honesty her legendary is trash lol.
native ether
Fun Fact: Life Affirmation works on Pitch Black Darkness
you can get 9 per darkness pickup instead of 5
mild crag
Unhealthy fixation trash?
frozen panther
this game is gonna tear this place apart
pastel jolt
for anyone who might have been wondering: the raging rush on achilles aspect spear counts as "retrieval" for the purposes of the hammer which gives crit chance on special
native ether
I dislike it, but that's cause the last time I used it Charm was buggy and got me killed lmao
novel tapir
Yeah it is broken beyond belief with the right combo
mild crag
Cancelled all hades attacks
frozen panther
Chiron bow aphro special and legendary hm
fading sandal
speaking of chiron bow
who in tartarus disabled zeus special with chiron
it only procs like 3 times
native ether
Aphrodite offers the strongest flat out damage bonuses as well as some of the best defensive options in the game. She's definitely one of if not the best god in the game.
novel tapir
I love her boons but I like getting artemis to round a build up
spare cobalt
Yeah, Aphro's damage boosts are just numerically higher than they should be.
serene nexus
Also, I had two really good runs end due to the boom choice rooms... those are never worth the trouble.
fading sandal
just up charm percentage to compensate
mild crag
Trials are best rooms if you can survive
novel tapir
Don't make zeus angry
fading sandal
ehh, i hate athena's and arte's more than zeus
native ether
(i cant read it lol)
novel tapir
zeus is unpredictable
stray frigate
oh
serene nexus
You don’t want to piss off any of the Greek gods
fading sandal
so is athena's
stray frigate
i have chaos curse on my attack
spare cobalt
Once you're used to the game, you actively seek out trial rooms. Two boons from one room can be a massive power boost.
stray frigate
and T&M room
native ether
oof
fading sandal
and artemis, i just have to dash around like a monkey
serene nexus
Wait. If you survive you get BOTH of them?
spare cobalt
Yep.
novel tapir
Artemis is fine because they have a delay before they hit you
mild crag
You choose one to get then when you win you get the other
novel tapir
and athena is melee range
fading sandal
but i'm a bow lord
serene nexus
I remember pissing off Poseidon and having to deal with 8 shield bearers at the same time
novel tapir
but zeus just rains bolts down randomly
fading sandal
and i have to stop at some point to aim
novel tapir
just keep dash attacking my man
mild crag
Artemis is a bit rough if you're playing ranged
fading sandal
it's still not fast enough
mild crag
Harder than some others
native ether
My boon tier list would be:
S: Aphrodite (cause Aphrodite. Best base damage, best defensive options, best status curse, super good aid, really good cast, really good duos, decent legendary)
A: Dionysus (great offensive damage with Poison and Fog, great duo boon combos, great defensive options, oh and Thunderdome) and Artemis (damage lol everything hurts, but she's not S tier because all she offers is damage, and her status curse debuff is honestly awful)
B: Zeus (strongest aid in the game by far imo even after its been nerfed like 3 times, all his damage is great if you can get multiple zeus boons, also lol did I mention Thunderdome) Ares (Hunting Blades is the best duo in the game if you can get it. Vicious Cycle is amazing, Doom can do good damage) and Athena (decent damage addons, deflect is pretty good, best dash in the game which can make it significantly easier)
C: Poseidon (poor surfer bro, doesn't have enough damage against bosses in all honesty, given that they're pretty knockback resistant. Decent support and utility boons for power ramping, but only if you get him early. He can be fun though.)
azure bone
I'd put zues/dionysus in low tier imo
last nacelle
The worst trial you can get is Athena vs Poseidon.
serene nexus
Dio’s cast is pretty useful IMO
azure bone
hermes/aphrodite in S, artemis/athena in A
native ether
Dio's cast and its associated Zeus duo is the 2nd strongest Duo in the game
honestly no question about it
azure bone
Yea, unless running poseidan build, and a lot of 'duo' combos are disgustingly strong
but I wouldn't rely on them
mild crag
Don't sleep on spent spirit
fading sandal
i don't wanna lose my 50% though
spare cobalt
Festive lob Hera bow is immense fun.
azure bone
and losing 50% damage for it isn't really worth imo
native ether
1st will always be hunting blades. Until you can find me another build that can kill Hades in literally 15 seconds, Hunting Blades will always be the best Duo in the game.
serene nexus
I remember when I tried out the rail for the first time and I got the triple bomb augment off the bat...
Also Meg has some pretty nice dialogue
azure bone
spoilers
mild crag
I never get offered hunting blades
solid cairn
Spoilers are allowed here
fading sandal
ohh right
mild crag
Spoilers are allowed here
fading sandal
thanks
acoustic ether
theseus extreme mode is a pretty great fight
stray frigate
Hey guys riddle this. What can damage you if u r invincible?)
acoustic ether
the hydra upgrade is kinda meh but man
solid cairn
Spoilers are only banned in discussion
native ether
Theseus Extreme is glorious
mild crag
Tight deadline can kill you through impervious
serene nexus
“Do you know what you’ve got in your hands? What happened to your normal weapons”
“I wanted to try something new. You want to try?”
“... Actually, yes”
fading sandal
lol
serene nexus
Meg is a gun fan confirmed
native ether
isn't it "do you want a demonstration" and she responds "actually yes, I always have"
azure bone
upgraded rail reload shot on an artimes build is hilarious imo
native ether
(for the Meg Rail interaction)
serene nexus
Yeah. I was paraphrasing it
azure bone
nothing like shooting for 900+ every second
oak owl
Rail gun with 5 burst is so op
native ether
who wouldn't be a fan of the most feared weapon of mass destruction in all hades canon :kappa:
azure bone
I wish poseidon was better against bosses because he is awesome outside of boss fights
solid cairn
Meg also has a very good companion
serene nexus
Oh, hey Thrall!
serene nexus
Yep
oak owl
didnt know you played
serene nexus
Just got it a few days ago
native ether
ngl i wana meet Hestia in game and I want her profile art to just be super punk rock or something similar to that
last nacelle
Hestia only used to rail once before locking it away.
fading sandal
i wanna thank daedalus
azure bone
I want all the gods swapped with egyptian counterparts on april fools
serene nexus
What’s going to be the next weapon? Dual axes?
gray lintel
another true melee weapon like sword would be nice
there's already 4 ranged weapons tho :c
oak owl
4 ranged?
acoustic ether
nunchucks
azure bone
2 ranged, 2 hybrid, 1 melee
gray lintel
Spear and Shield specials are like some of the best ranged stuff, bow and gun is 100% ranged
fading sandal
but you can get the wave uprade with the sword
then you can use it ranged
i wish the wave applied boon effects
azure bone
technically spear has more reach than the gun so its a better ranged weapon
gray lintel
honestly I don't consider the spear melee at all considering there's a range upgrade that damages distant targets with attack and has crazy reach
also that yes
acoustic ether
spear attack is better than spear special imo
serene nexus
Yeah. It’s useful when you stack backstab bonuses
acoustic ether
get the flurry hammer upgrade
serene nexus
Flurry Hammer?
gray lintel
dash attacks are busted 
acoustic ether
the flurry hammer upgrade
i can't remember what it's called. no more spin, hold x to attack quickly
oak owl
depends on the dash
azure bone
Hold click to swing quickly, dash to auto-dash attack. Dash in circles around enemy to melt
azure bone
but I'll never not get the spin attack ones on the chance I get both spin attack upgrades just cause of how fun it is
gray lintel
yeah dashes seem to reset auto timer so dashes are like OP
solid cairn
Game crashes instantly
azure bone
it would just spawn tons of waves
fading sandal
you probably can edit that in the files
azure bone
they wouldn't be all at once
oak owl
enters first chamber
oak owl
dies instantly
solid cairn
Oh also max attack speed and movement speed
For enemies
Max speed explodey Elysium guys
The butterfly guys become a butterfly minigun
The bomb tosser dudes turn full auto
oak owl
like the rapid bomb hammer upgrade for the gun
azure bone
https://streamable.com/meoss Seriously tho this build is 👍 for spear (until final boss, then its painful)
serene nexus
Why is it bad for the last boss
azure bone
knockback doesn't work on him
I mean you can still spin attack but it takes forever cause you can't get any of the wall slamming damage
oak owl
telos how far have you gotten
serene nexus
Elysium’s boss. Got Asterius to half hp
fading sandal
just to be sure, did you kill mino first?
oak owl
heres a tip
urban void
@azure bone that's some crazy nice spin to win
oak owl
sheild op
urban void
shield op
serene nexus
How did you think I got there? :p
azure bone
yea poseidan spin to win on the 'dash to spear' build is crazy
fading sandal
good
serene nexus
It was my second shield run
azure bone
because when you dash, the damage buff applies to the already crazy high damage spin w/ hammer upgrade
solid cairn
Spear is fun but clunky and weird to use
azure bone
I always just kill them in whatever order you kill them
native ether
"sword bad" (except its not lol)
serene nexus
I picked it on a whim due to the darkness bonus but it’s pretty good. The darkness bonus is pretty good at making you try our different weapons
urban void
killing theseus first seems pretty hard
fading sandal
spear just feels slow to me tbh
urban void
sword can have some crazy damage
azure bone
sword meh until you get Poseidon aspect, then its broken af.
mild crag
Killing Thesus first is masochistic
languid gorge
What do you guys pick for eurydice?
brisk sentinel
i killed theseus first once by accident with one of them OP cast builds
fading sandal
depends on my boons really
azure bone
I almost always get the third choice
oak owl
my first win was with a sword
azure bone
unless I got really good boons already
fading sandal
if i have the boon i want, first
native ether
always the top unless i have way too many boons, then the 2nd choice
stray frigate
@languid gorge it depends on wat you have
serene nexus
When Poseidon’s kncokback and got his legendary boon to knock back twice. And yeah, I was aiming to burst down asterius first but failed since I was out of lives by then and only at 30 HP with bad shop RNG
mild crag
If you've got everything you want take 2 boon rarity upgrade
If you don't take next 3 boon rarity
urban void
sword with aphrodite boon on special, artemis damage and crit boost on attack and crit boost from nemesis aspect with +damage for crits on weak enemies
super big damage
acoustic ether
dang tried zeus shield out for the first time
acoustic ether
whoda thunk that zeus powers go well with it
oak owl
zeus sheild is weird
acoustic ether
use it with his shield
urban void
dude zeus jolt maxed out on rail
serene nexus
I didn’t have enough blood to go for shield aspects. I might go for it later. Nemesis sword seemed decent
urban void
it's got crazy room clearing capabilities
azure bone
Why is he the king of 'chip damage' when lightning is like the thematic burst king
urban void
and big damage
azure bone
its not his power, its his theme
tardy chasm
I like the duo with Poseidon on any rapid attackers
azure bone
I hate how he's a ton of tiny little shocks instead of giant ass lightning bolts
acoustic ether
i didn't have an attack boon, a call boon, a dash boon or a cast boon
urban void
zeus and ares build can make for a great power run
acoustic ether
and just completely wrecked heat 6 with it
native ether
there's a reason zeus aid has been nerfed like 3 times
fading sandal
bouncing athena cast makes styx rooms easy
acoustic ether
got the zeus legendary, got the ares/zeus duo
azure bone
Zues aid could always just be one big lightning bolt that chains at full cast
acoustic ether
apparently screenshots are not allowed in here but man that run felt powerful
azure bone
atm its just ares but worse
fading sandal
but that doesn't synergize with his other boons
azure bone
(granted a lot of calls are just 'ares but worse'
fading sandal
bonerton, you can upload it to a site and link it
native ether
use imgur or gyazo for screenshots
serene nexus
I had to opportunity to get the duo for Artemis and Aphrodite but I was too much of a noob to go for it since it was really early into my runs
stray frigate
@acoustic ether they are allowed lol
urban void
the lightning bouncing between enemies with jolt levelled up is pretty crazy with rail
acoustic ether
oh i'm just trying to paste a win shift S and it isn't working
fading sandal
yeah, direct upload isn't allowrd for some reason
stray frigate
like that
urban void
i just lost an artemis aphrodite run on the final boss woo
stuck bough
https://gyazo.com/32e991adea911579702cffdd745a13bc how about just stand and throw your spear to win?
azure bone
I'm surprised to see the tooth keepsake used so much
I have literally never used it D:
acoustic ether
stray frigate
it one of the best in the end
urban void
extra revive is a pretty sweet deal
stray frigate
and easy to find
serene nexus
You can’t refill it though, I think, so you just end up swapping it out when you use it.
urban void
also i forget can you switch out keepsakes right before the final fight
azure bone
I guess thats fair, I always use the shield one for the final area cause it nullifies a ton of damage
frozen panther
plus its a 150 revive so unless you have 300 hp, its better than a death defiance too
urban void
like in the room with cerberus
stuck bough
zeus aspect shield seems a bit akward for me
native ether
ive never used the tooth but that's because I feel the tooth has a time and place to be used
fading sandal
also why'd they limit death defiance
acoustic ether
usually i get extra gold and then pick two gods post tartarus then switch to the revive or acorn or whatever i need for styx
stray frigate
@stuck bough it can be used to proc some debuf
fading sandal
i like having 6 when i fight hades
urban void
yeah zeus boons on shield attack didn't work out great the times i tried it
native ether
Because it used to possible to get up to 15 Death Defiances :p
acoustic ether
lately i've just been going straight for boons though
native ether
which is just... no lol
fading sandal
and it should be allowed
oak owl
thats a bad idea
azure bone
At that point are you just trying to die? o.O
urban void
@native ether excuse me what
serene nexus
Alternatively you could argue that the hp from the collar is more valuable in the end
azure bone
If you're burning through that many lives
stuck bough
for shield I just did posideon + zeus and just spamed special lol
fading sandal
look, if i wanna facetank hades, i'm gonna facetank hades
oak owl
or just take skelly
urban void
how do you get anywhere near 15
native ether
if you're burning through that many lives but, excuse me being a tad elitest, you dont deserve to actually win that run lmao
azure bone
In the final act the 'shield after taking damage' is just so good idk why you'd use others D:
like all the beam attacks that tick damage every .1 second are pretty much nullified
urban void
hey you're using the mechanics they put in the game without cheating or anything
a win is a win
fading sandal
^
stray frigate
and balance is a balance
stuck bough
double attack shield + support fire works wonders as well
especially if you have attack speed up
serene nexus
If you want to go on easy mode you can just switch God Mode on
stray frigate
y
urban void
double attack shield with 6 enemy bounces and doom is pretty sweet
native ether
@urban void prior to the Welcome to Hell Update, everything that said "Replenish a Charge" simply said "Gain 1 Charge"
So you could get up to 15 death defiances and basically flounder your way through the final boss... and it was just kinda ridiculous lol
mild crag
Defeat final boss with only revenge procs
urban void
ah fair that that got patched
urban void
that's real op
serene nexus
Can you replenish the revive given by the tooth by chance?
azure bone
but I had the thing that made them pulse every 3 seconds
and I stood there holding shield up
fading sandal
auto revenge
native ether
nope, that one can't be replenished afaik, but I haven't tested
stuck bough
where is the option for hell mode or god mode?
azure bone
god mode = settings
mild crag
Tooth is a special thing
urban void
options menu
azure bone
hell mode = new game
mild crag
Isn't a death defiance
native ether
Hell Mode is turned on when you create a Save, God Mode is in the options menu
urban void
what is hell mode
stuck bough
Ah
azure bone
its like regular mode
serene nexus
So you just swap it out the moment you use it then. That’s neat
azure bone
but worse
fading sandal
hard mode, basically
urban void
and what's the difference between regular and god mode
native ether
extra difficulty for people who like challenge :p
azure bone
god mode is every time you fail you gain 2% damage resistance permanantly
mild crag
God Mode gives you damage resist each time you death
azure bone
hell mode is just writ of punishment is always on
fading sandal
up to 80%
native ether
God Mode gives you some Damage Resistance and increases it a bit each time you die (up to 80%)
azure bone
and its not even the fun ones
urban void
bruh i can't even beat hades consistently yet hell mode seems like a kick in the head
oak owl
god mode is for game jornalists
serene nexus
Wait. That’s it? Huh...
stuck bough
I heard hell mode is like 5 heat?
serene nexus
Thought God Mode would be more than just getting 2% damage resistance permanently
mild crag
For that weapon min heat rises to 6
azure bone
might be 5%
mild crag
And it keeps going up the more you clear
azure bone
yea hell mode doesn't look fun at all
turbid needle
^
azure bone
I can just use the writ of punishment manually if I really want a hard mode
turbid needle
^
azure bone
farming in hell mode to unlock all the dialogue would suuuck
native ether
Hell Mode unlocks the Pact by default, and perma locks in 5 Heat in these options:
Hard Labor (25% additional damage)
25% reduced Healing (dunno the name for it oops)
Budget Cuts (max 2500 darkness)
Jury Summons (20% additional spawns)
and I believe the 5th point is in the exclusive pact option to Hell Mode, Personal Liability (Which removes all invulnerability shields you would get from taking big damage in short succession, except from boons or keepsakes.)
urban void
man this game is pretty incredible
native ether
Hell Mode is just for those who want extra challenge
Mostly for the vets who stuck around for a year tbh
turbid needle
Coming from a SoulsBorne player, gotta say, a challenge should be a challenge and rewarding, and not just a hard challenge just for the sake of being a challenge and to give you bragging rights which is more immature than 28yo crackhead demanding free coffee from coffee shops.
urban void
can't wait til i'm good enough that regular mode with heat seems too easy on it's own
serene nexus
I’ve always liked the custom difficulty in SG’s games
fading sandal
28yo crackhead demanding free coffee from coffee shops.
is there a story behind this?
turbid needle
Yup, but can't say here. lol
fading sandal
lmao
turbid needle
Also, I am watching family guy lately, gotta pump up those references from my life, too.
lol
native ether
Gotta say, I don't mind some difficulty options being there just for bragging rights and the laughs, but many should be for rewards (which most are in this game)
oak owl
more skelly trophies
fading sandal
aphrodite statue pls
mild crag
I just play hell mode to flex
urban void
this game with heat should give you way more bragging rights than the soulsborne games
mild crag
oak owl
skelly > aphrodite
turbid needle
@urban void True, which makes my point even more sharp.
fading sandal
speaking of, does anyone know if skelly is based on some myth?
urban void
eurydice is best girl if you don't include skelly
turbid needle
lol
fading sandal
like, is he referencing real lore?
urban void
yeah he's a reference to human skeletons
serene nexus
Artemis best girl
turbid needle
I think I am the only one that thinks Dusa is the best girl.
fading sandal
i think so too
turbid needle
Come on, guys, she's cleaning the RAFTERS!
mild crag
Dusa is a good girl tho
urban void
dusa definitely good girl
oak owl
artemis exists
serene nexus
Dusa is our cute Gorgon maid
turbid needle
lol
serene nexus
I found the tree stuff is... interesting
turbid needle
Yeah, what a snakehead can do in front of the Goddess of Hunt?
Still Dusa is just adorable. lol
fading sandal
actually have sex?
serene nexus
Act like a cute cinnamon roll.
fading sandal
unlike artemis?
turbid needle
Everytime she's just "oh snap, he's here!"
^^^^
You won, Linn.
You absolute madman.
You won.
stray frigate
turbid needle
It truly is./
urban void
that's a lotta shield wins
mild crag
Shield is op for sure
turbid needle
lol
stray frigate
with 360 dash attack?
urban void
jeez
stray frigate
yeah that was something
mild crag
Bring back old Artemis dash btw
urban void
you walk in with a shield and hades just gives up and lets you go
turbid needle
lmao
mild crag
100% crit rate after dash
urban void
that's insane
turbid needle
- Hades : .......Fine.
Geez, would love to have that 100% actually.
Even for one hit.
mild crag
I always did
urban void
with bow it would be insane
azure bone
if it was for one hit gun would be broken
turbid needle
I can imagine with Chiron bow = attack to mark, dash, special + poison and doom.
GGWP.
stray frigate
smiling Meg is awful
urban void
f in chat for hades
turbid needle
Hades left the chat room.
stray frigate
smiling Tomatos is creepy
turbid needle
Hades left the game Hades.
urban void
i like meg
oak owl
shes eeh
fading sandal
smiling meg surprised me
urban void
great voice
turbid needle
She is okay, as a character.
stray frigate
yes she is fine
urban void
she's just doing her job
turbid needle
Voice acting is top.
stray frigate
but this face
turbid needle
^
stray frigate
stuck bough
Blessed
urban void
smug.jpg
turbid needle
I think Alecto is the most annoying of them 3.
oak owl
she would rather not kill you
fading sandal
you think alecto is more annoying than MURDER MURDER MUDER MURDER MURDERRRRRR?
how
urban void
acting smug despite being the easiest boss
stray frigate
she looked way more better in beginning
pastel jolt
how dare you that's my wife's smile you're insulting :c
serene nexus
Counter argument Linn: you only need a head to give Dusa head pats for a good job
turbid needle
Well, I happen to have a soft spot in my heart for psychological - truly - unstable people, and the Murder Murder one looks like there's TONS of golden lore behind her.
fading sandal
look, i'm just saying, poseidon tapped that
urban void
what if you headpat too hard and she hits the floor
oak owl
dusa isnt the actual medusa a believe
fading sandal
she's good enough for poseidon, good enough for me
WHAT
NO
someone tell me he's wrong
limpid tapir
Check the Medusa lore codex entry, they're parts of the original gorgon's blood iirc
oak owl
medusa was cursed after posiden
fading sandal
good enough
urban void
can't imagine they'd design real medusa like dusa in game
limpid tapir
fading sandal
so you're saying i have to collect all medusa enemies and extract their blood
urban void
dusa is just a shade apparently
fading sandal
and make THE medusa
turbid needle
Yeah, I want to believe she is real Medusa or part of her, but, I don't know, Medusa was one of the "divine" beasts in Ancient Greece.
stray frigate
what reward is for fated list in chaos BOONS
turbid needle
Would doubt if she was working as a maid.
Then again, she couldn't go up against Gods, so...
urban void
from the wiki it just says dusa is a disembodied gorgon head shade
turbid needle
Maybe it IS her, since Perseus chopped her head off?
And technically she was still alive?
oak owl
but there are a ton of other medusa heads
turbid needle
lol
fading sandal
omfg
limpid tapir
Yeah, it is 😛
oak owl
wa-
turbid needle
IQ = 99393954
limpid tapir
Maid-Dusa XD
fading sandal
i hate this
oak owl
god dammit
mild crag
Blood and darkness...
turbid needle
Devs outplayed us 😦
limpid tapir
^
stray frigate
turbid needle
😔
serene nexus
I thought that the Medusa thing as Ms. Dusa
fading sandal
it's tu-toriel all over again
serene nexus
Not Maid Dusa
urban void
oak owl
turbid needle
Such a cutie.
urban void
galaxy brain devs
turbid needle
She looks like one of those yandere girls that will stalk you and kill any other girl or anyone in general just to be with you.
urban void
sounds like meg
turbid needle
Meg is more of a sadistic tsundere.
urban void
i misread yandere woops
turbid needle
Meg : Not gonna help you, little snort.
Also Meg : Welp, Zagggu <3, it's not like I WANT to do it, I am just doing my JOB, okay/ I am just a girl, okay?
turbid needle
lol
urban void
i GUESS i'll take this contraband not like i want it or anything..
turbid needle
@fading sandal There's a medication for me, right here, and it's called Hades.
Good game.
urban void
transistor was wonderful
limpid tapir
All SGG stuff is great 😄
turbid needle
It was good game, just the ending felt super rushed and the last boss kinda annoying for me.
fading sandal
@limpid tapir pyre though
turbid needle
But overall it was a goodgame.
fading sandal
i wanna fight the last boss again
limpid tapir
what about it?
urban void
the ending didn't stick out in my memory that much but i remember loving the game
limpid tapir
;D
turbid needle
I am about to start Pyre, wanna see how well this game is, since it's from SGG, I have no doubts it is going to be quality.
fading sandal
but hey, i do want to die
limpid tapir
prepare to die, just like dark souls XD
stray frigate
suicide is not the way
frozen panther
Eravel 
limpid tapir
ayyy, nova! o7
limpid tapir
one of my two fav people here too! 😄
serene nexus
I’m more of the opinion that Transistor was the better ‘game’ but Bastion was the better ‘experience’
turbid needle
Hades is cool.
pastel jolt
quick question: anyone know if hermes's "increased cast speed" boon applies to blade rifts?
serene nexus
Haven’t played Pyre yet but Hades is still pretty good.
stray frigate
yes
limpid tapir
It does. Improved cast speed just stacks more blade rifts
stray frigate
they start to fly faster
turbid needle
@pastel jolt If it's special, yes, if it's dash , don't know.
urban void
i think the world in bastion was great but the gameplay in transistor was wonderful
fading sandal
transistor's world was also interesting
oak owl
bastion was great but it didnt have much replay value
mild crag
I think hades is their best game
stray frigate
and he gets less dmg
turbid needle
^
fading sandal
the underlying implications of a society purely based on total democracy is an interesting concept
turbid needle
I agree with Kossetsu here, Hades game is really their best for me.
I used to hate rogue like dungeon crawling games so bad, but this game is different in a good way.
urban void
hard to compare a roguelike dungeon crawler to a linear story game i'd say
just as an experience
fading sandal
yeah, this is the only roguelite game i lasted more than an hour on
serene nexus
Same.
urban void
i've definitely had the most fun with this game so far than any of the others but the others are great experiences as games
serene nexus
Because death isn’t completely and utterly meaningless in Hades
urban void
yeah it's nice that you still progress with death in this game
turbid needle
I just flat out believe SGG is actually a good company with smart people who really put effort in making the rogue-like aspect very interesting and likeable, even when you lose.
urban void
doesn't feel like binding of isaac or something where you have nothing to show for a lost run
turbid needle
^
stray frigate
well isnt it roguelikes about?
urban void
and it's not as impossibly hard as enter the gungeon
fading sandal
i feel like having the "items" (boons) have more interaction than just being items made me stick
limpid tapir
I put SGG on the same tier as Digital Extremes and CD Projekt Red for being a good company, period 😛
turbid needle
Or cheap like the darkest dungeon/slay the spire.
fading sandal
somehow having dialouge makes me care more
oak owl
keep in mind hades isnt even done yet
stray frigate
in TBOI u syill able to gets lots of achievement
serene nexus
Slay the Spire had far too much RNG in it tbh
fading sandal
like it's not just the same item i got for the 5th time
limpid tapir
I love the god keepsakes, they make builds so much more reliable
oak owl
could release it now and it would still be great
limpid tapir
And the gods' commentary on previous boon choices is A+
Throwing shade at each other is great XD
turbid needle
@oak owl That's what makes it even more great, the game's just EA and it's already putting other companies with AAA games in to total shame for the content it has.
serene nexus
As long as they have a solid ending instead of the placeholder we have now it would be 100% ready to sell.
limpid tapir
Yeah, that's underway rn
That's why it's lampshaded so much in-game how there's no ending (yet)
serene nexus
That’s pretty much all the game is missing for a MVP.
(Minimal Viable Product) for those not familiar with that acronym
frozen panther
go study business smh, Eravel
limpid tapir
;o
fading sandal
speaking of the ending, ya'll noticed it's winter outside?
even though persephone is not in hell
oak owl
its always winter
stray frigate
and night
fading sandal
it should be spring
limpid tapir
i will! in four days! classes start again for term 2 here. and oi, gl on them finals still!
serene nexus
Yeah. It’s implied that Persephone never returned to Olympus
fading sandal
so something's wrong outside
frozen panther
Lucky
serene nexus
Hence the eternal winter
native ether
Please for the love of god rework the hyrda fight. It makes the Tight Deadline modifier unplayable, seeing as how the fight alone takes about as much time as speedrunning through the entirety of asphodel.
I don't have any issues with the Tight Deadline option and the Hydra, but I would like to see it reworked in general.
frozen panther
I have a final in like 8 hours
turbid needle
I have the wild idea that Zag haven't reached Perspehone yet, that's why it's winter.
fading sandal
yeah
limpid tapir
Oh god XD
frozen panther
:(
limpid tapir
Best of luck, you got this o7
limpid tapir
Technically we all fail, don't we? Gon die anyway!
frozen panther
true
stray frigate
Demeter
pine badger
spring only comes when the family welcomes persephone's return to olympus
stray frigate
looks like we will see her soon enough
pine badger
(she went after kratos to the norse side of the world)
fading sandal
either way, demeter's hissy fit is biggest decider
fading sandal
lol
sometimes it do be like that
you just realize you don't care enough about something and you just stop typing
serene nexus
The note from Persephone says that she’s looking for a place that’s not Olympus or Hell
Which either implies she’s run off somewhere else
pine badger
one with chaos
serene nexus
...
stray frigate
@serene nexus also it says that she cares more about Cerberus not about her son
serene nexus
Makes sense. She sees Hades in him and probably hates him by proxy
serene nexus
Which is actually on course for Greek Mythology
stray frigate
only narrator
fading sandal
the eyes?
serene nexus
Nyx confirms it I believe
serene nexus
... very good point!
stray frigate
whatever
serene nexus
We know that he’s not Nyx’s son. But maybe not Persephone’s
stray frigate
can he probably have ho mother
stray frigate
he is just personification of some Hades aspects
serene nexus
Do we have a picture of Persephone?
stray frigate
no
gusty nexus
Pretty sure Persephone is his mum
fading sandal
you don't think the goddess of plants or something doesn't have a green eye?
serene nexus
Might be a good plot twist that Persephone isn’t his mother
stray frigate
no
fading sandal
also, thanatos confirms that zag has his mother's eye
charred solar
Zagreus is a real figure from Greek mythology
Zagreus was a minor god in Greek mythology, usually conflated with the god of wine, Dionysus. He was worshipped by the followers of Orpheus, and according to their beliefs, he was the son of Zeus and Persephone, after the former took the form of a serpent and lay with her. Zeus' intentions were for Zagreus to succeed him in the throne, but Hera, who was furious for her husband's infidelity, asked the Titans to kill the boy. While Zagreus was playing with his toys, the Titans tried to capture him; he evaded them by taking various animal forms; he eventually took the form of a bull before the Titans seized him, killed him and ate him. The myth continues with Zeus realising what happened and striking the Titans with a thunderbolt; the Titans were instantly turned to ashes. From these ashes, which were a mixture of the vile bodies of the Titans and the holy body of Zagreus, arose the humans, thus explaining why they are both good and evil; each individual containing a bit of both kindness and evilness. Persephone managed to find Zagreus' heart, which was still beating, and Zeus placed it into the body of the mortal woman Semele. Semele gave birth to Zagreus again.
charred solar
So depending on how much SGG is actually following that...
stray frigate
looks like SGG just took a name
turbid needle
@serene nexus Everyone's lying, we do have a picture of her. - Early Concept.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/ea2e4e5a2791bef96d97f9ca43a75986/tumblr_pq2hfuBQgJ1xg3d7ro4_500.gifv
thorny edge
the putting the heart in a mortal woman thing is interesting considering how big of a deal it is Zagreus has red blood
fading sandal
not how i imagined persephone
fading sandal
he also got vored
grand idol
Hello everyone, I was wondering where I go to post possible bugs?
turbid needle
@grand idol #h1-tech-support and #hades-tech-fixes-old
mild crag
Use F10 in game when you experience them
stray frigate
f10
grand idol
Oh. Thank you!
turbid needle
Or F10, yeah, in game.
pastel jolt
no, don't put bugs in tech support, that channel is not for bug reports
lost rose
Seconding! Tech support channel isn't for bug reports, haha
stray frigate
@lost rose what with styxbot
lost rose
It's down 🤷 Mods are currently taking care of the votes in the feedback channel, no worries.
stray frigate
everyone need a moment of rest i guess
stray frigate
wow wp
fading sandal
no screenshot?
strong flame
got too excited for the reward to screenshot
fading sandal
darn
stuck bough
https://gyazo.com/19ada7ffff5e423dd6fc566794dfcae4 this build took some work, but I had so much MONEY!!!
strong flame
aphro attack
dio special
athena dash
zeus call
Passives:
athena trap reduce
dio posioned enemies move slower
dio nectar gives hp
dio health reduction below 40%
aphro damage reduction
aphro weak status stays for longer
zeus deal more damage after call
hermes special is 12% faster
hermes 3 extra dashes
mild crag
3 dashes hoo boy
mild crag
That sounds like a bug
stray frigate
it's not 1st time i see shield
stuck bough
That huge stack of poison hit Hades like a truck
stray frigate
and still have full hp
stuck bough
I wanna try the Zeus aspect shield, any pointers?
mild crag
Just F10 it @stray frigate
mild crag
I'm no Zeus aspect player but something which benefits from fast strikes seems good like Zeus special or Dio special @stuck bough
stray frigate
aphro
turbid needle
I just wish and hope devs won't nerf the shield now...
stray frigate
athena
solid cairn
Zeus bad
turbid needle
Otherwise it will be an even bigger nightmare.
stray frigate
ares mb
mild crag
Athena gives you a nice protective disc
stray frigate
or dio
turbid needle
Wryyyyy
stray frigate
@turbid needle they already did it
turbid needle
lol
mild crag
What will be a bigger nightmare
stray frigate
in old version
mild crag
Game is EZ tho
stray frigate
u could make shield make dash attack all around you
mild crag
turbid needle
Don't smug me, Kossetsu.
mild crag
stray frigate
y
turbid needle
Damn man
stray frigate
hey it's rude
mild crag
Shield used to be stronger yes
Also had deflect instead of block but I think I said that recently too
turbid needle
So the guy I've watched playing on the older version had a most broken shield. lol
Yeah, you did.
Insane.
stray frigate
didnt try it yest
turbid needle
32 heat feels really rough to be honest, but the game on its own and maybe without the time limit is easier.
Can';t imagine 45
lol
strong flame
the time limit is the killer for me
strong flame
lost 2 death defiance because i started the 3rd boss fight at 00:00
turbid needle
ouch