I'm panic dashing less and less as I observe more and understand what things are going to do / what is likely to happen.
#h1-builds-and-combat
tulip timber
Opens up more space to put in arrows when I'm not in constant flight. ๐
I do a lot more calmly walking to dodge projectiles. It saves me from panic dashing into spikes.
hard holly
True, though right now it feels a lot like Bastion
pastel jolt
or into lava......
tulip timber
I do think at some point they'll have to rework the current buffs display. Running out of room by floor 2 is an issue. ๐
pastel jolt
ughhhghhghghghgg i just got aphrodite on an elite door but i'm like 99% sure it's going to be The Hell Boat and i don't know if i want to tangle with that right now
errant narwhal
yeah thatโs what elite door means
tulip timber
Oh, I missed the word elite.
pastel jolt
yeah
errant narwhal
sparrow no itโs not worth it.......
tulip timber
Yup, that's hell boat.
errant narwhal
free room
hollow notch
two or three times now
tulip timber
Hope for 3 gold pots? ๐
hollow notch
I've only gotten one door after charon and it was a hell boat
tulip timber
Do you have hammer yet?
pastel jolt
yeah, unfortunately there was no power shot so i had to go for piercing
which isn't all bad bc at least it makes dealing with slamdancers and whatnot a bit faster
errant narwhal
Maybe youโll get a sandwich
tulip timber
Ah. Well, heart or more darkness for better later runs.
hollow notch
In other news - second run today, second Hydra kill 
Sword this time
And with a.... weird build I would say ๐
pastel jolt
i've got weak on attack so if i go hellboat i might have a shot at sweet surrender
it's pommed and everything,,
errant narwhal
If u get a sandwich from charon, does oceans bounty increase the healing?
pastel jolt
i like how i spend tartarus complaining that it feels too linear and then once i get to asphodel i'm paralysed by indecision every other room lmao
errant narwhal
bc that might b worth the chance w that low health
pastel jolt
hold left trigger with one hand, alt tab out with the other, tab back in, screenshot
tulip timber
@pastel jolt Is there a third door on the other side?
That looks like one of the 3 door maps.
pastel jolt
nope
tulip timber
Damn.
pastel jolt
hellboat for a shot at sweet surrender, or charon's shop and hope there's something useful to me in there...... :S
hard holly
Go for the Murderboat
errant narwhal
@short zinc heads up Iโm deleting your feedback because it has been submitted before, feel free to search for it and vote on it
also sparrow u know Iโm voting shop
tulip timber
I played WoW with an Alma druid healer several years ago.
pastel jolt
i'm gonna play it safe, 
wins
oh goddamnit
:C
charon you absolute tease
i already broke all the pots ;n;
(there was one. it gave me 1g. i feel so cheated.)
hard holly
Shouldve gone for the murderboat
hollow notch
tulip timber
I mean, it almost has to be sandwich.
pastel jolt
the health says it'll give me back 50 so i'm not sure ocean's bounty works on it
which makes sense because it's not a reward for clearing a room
hollow notch
ok... I did something wrong ๐
pastel jolt
i'm goign to live life on the edge and get the pom
i'd say yolo but that literally could not apply to zag less
tulip timber
YOD
pastel jolt
i'm now up to level 6 on heartbreak strike
errant narwhal
you only die.....
pastel jolt
LMAO THE NEXT ROOM WAS A HEALING SPRING ANYWAY
tulip timber
Since you were offered murder boat, Charon probably won't send you on another. But that would be funny if after the struggle it was like "No really, murder boat."
hollow notch
oh, great success ๐
hard holly
That part actually confuses me
The murderboat clearly has 2 entrances
Why do you never get on it after skipping it?
tulip timber
I've seen the other abandoned boats too. Most often on the healing island in Asphodel.
pastel jolt
so i'm about to face the hydra
i squeezed in one last pom
i think 7 might be the highest i've had a boon go so far lmao
pastel jolt
now imagine if it was pre-nerf aphrodite..........
hard holly
Shame that they nerfed it that hard
It probably should be normalized between aphro, athena and poseidon
pastel jolt
level 4 tempest strike: 106% buff
level 7 heartbreak strike: 80% buff
what stings is that if you're not getting hit - and let's face it, if you're running bow chances are you're not - then the weak debuff does nothing for you
okay time for hydra
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
i did it
errant narwhal
eyyyyy
errant narwhal
yeah aphrodite needs a bit of a buff now
my girl was nerfed too hard
you did it!!
pastel jolt
to quote me during the fight: WHERE AM I????? WHERE DID I GO
hard holly
Where did I come from, cotton-eyed joe
pastel jolt
orpheus is singing ;3;
errant narwhal
whenever he does I just run to the room and listen to it through the wall
It sounds so nice
pastel jolt
oh wow it does ;3;
hollow notch
how do you get him to sing?
pastel jolt
give him ambrosia until all his hearts (the unlocked ones at least) are red
tulip timber
Liquor.
hollow notch
I've started watering him, but not quite there yet
tulip timber
Boost the feedback on letting us give Ambrosia to Hydra.
And have it hang out in the bar after we come back from beating it.
hollow notch
I was thinking about that the first time that I beat it ๐
ivory dragon
Does it make me a bad person if I'd prefer to hang Hydra's head in my room as a trophy
hollow notch
Yep
Wouldn't it be better if the boons are Rare, Epic and Divine, rather than Legendary?
oak wedge
I have yet to see a legendary and beaten the game 6 times. Does it require you clearing out literally every other option?
pastel jolt
legendaries have prerequisites
oak wedge
Oh hmm. Are they different for each God?
pastel jolt
yeah
like to get artemis's legendary boon, support fire, you need either hide breaker or clean kill
and to get hide breaker or clean kill you need one of her basic boons
it's usually along the lines of "get one of the tier 1 boons to unlock tier 2 boons, get a tier 2 boon to unlock legendary"
there's info on the god pages on the gamepedia
oak wedge
Yeah i'm seein it now. Thank ya!
pastel jolt
though i'm considering going through and cleaning them up a little because the tables mix up tiers 1 and 2 sometimes which seems off to me
still pewter
how do yall feel about the ranged capabilities of our melee weapons?
still pewter
I'm not talking about power necessarily.
I feel like weapons should each have more of a unique identity
and I think most stuff having range homogenizes them a bit
mostly talking about spear/shield
hard holly
Eh, they do largely have a very unique identity
The one that has a bit of trouble in that department is shield
Because its only distinguishing feature is its dash
still pewter
I mean, it CAN block, that's a feature
and although I like the shield throw more than the spear one, I don't see why shield needs it. it doesnt fit thematically
hard holly
It does fit thematically, its just terrible
still pewter
as it does the spear (spears are also thrown weapons)
hard holly
Whereas spear is good
stray radish
you might want to visit #h1-discussion i galaxy brained Zag's reasoning for why he throws his weapons
but tldr he probably doesnt like direct confrontation
still pewter
I was there a second ago, thought I'd trouble this channel as well
true dock
Eh, I think the shield special is fine. The game plays itself with Ares' special boon. I think it feels kind of crap sometimes because Asphodel just has lava lakes instead of outside walls
But doing the Captain America run is fun every now and then.
still pewter
eeeeh idk. i dun like it. ranged can be a sort of uninteractive strategy. that's why cast operates on its pseudo cooldown
and is why spear and shield specials lack punch
and power
hard holly
Uh
stray radish
i like the minigame of sometimes waiting for more enemies to line up for spear's resummon backstab
hard holly
Spear special does not lack power
stray radish
so i guess its just like... playstyle preference?
pastel jolt
spear special is particularly fun when you accidentally knock enemies directly into your own face
not that i've done that before
tulip timber
Shield special is good if you're doing a weaponless run once you get to the second floor.
pallid lodge
steady gorge
can someone give me an estimate how much Darkness Poseidon's "Sunken Treasure" gives? I need to choose between that and % bonus to rewards and I'm not sure which will be better considering I have like 5 rooms left before run ends
tulip timber
Common:
Obols Awarded: 30โ60
Health Awarded: 1โ3
Chance of Ambrosia: 10%
Rare:
Multiplier: 1.3โ1.5
Epic:
Multiplier: 2.0โ2.5
That's all the wiki has.
Nothing on darkness amount.
steady gorge
yeah, that's exactly why I'm asking ๐
lol, ok - if anyone is wondering that boon gave me 3 Darkness
and it was of rare quality
I feel bamboozled now
tulip timber
If you got a good amount of Obols, maybe nice final Charon shop? ๐
steady gorge
yeah, I wasn't really paying attention to obols but after 2 more rooms I have 515
tulip timber
Whelp, time to clear him out.
tawdry sleet
Bow runs are getting too easy now with the right boons and upgrades
this one was ridiculous, top damage I saw was 1227
tulip timber
Them are some solid buffs. Missing jerky. ๐
tawdry sleet
I finally had enough gold for some silly room upgrades
never came across em when I had the cash ๐ฆ
tulip timber
I cheated them out with Hypnos relic just so they'd stop showing up and taunting me.
solid iris
Yeah bow is cray cray with Crit/Damage boons.
ionic laurel
solid iris
Just go all Artemis with the bow, you will almost be like robin hood.
pastel jolt
honestly artemis dash with bow i consider almost mandatory
you need to be dashing a lot anyway
tulip timber
That's the build for the big numbers. I've gotten other stuff to work with bow, but takes more work on my part. Crit Bow is just every power shot something dies.
At least one thing.
hollow totem
If only the sword dash attack better
I love how they reward dash attacks because it promotes fast paced play
tender zephyr
I just picked up Hunter's Dash with the bow and realized you could dash while charging a shot. At what time should you dash in order to land a Power Shot? Dash first than charge or dash when you would normally release your Power Shot?
And yes, I'm not even that far yet the distance the bow grants coupled with how you can compensate with Power Shots makes things so much easier.
pastel jolt
the critical period lasts long enough that you can dash beforehand
charges faster if you just dashed as well
tender zephyr
Ok, so timing is more lenient than I thought. I saw the one second duration and thought it would only be viable for melee builds when you Dash into the enemy before attacking them.
ivory dragon
yeah the dash crit is fine for bow, even upgraded
i usually dont go above 3 or so personally, but thats mostly because ill be dashing by that time anyways so it doesnt give much value
onyx badger
lol
crude tangle
you guys take perfect shot or triple shot when running bow?
I'm thinking triple shot is better but never looked at the math or anything
forest marsh
Triple Shot if it's offered, but Perfect is nice too
I think with the way that damage is calculated with boons and whatnot that the DPS on Triple Shot is higher when all three hit than Perfect Shot
crude tangle
yeah thats what I'm thinking too
glossy slate
yes, triple shot is my jam
perfect shot if that's not available, and if neither are then Point Blank
tulip timber
I think triple shot encourages me to make bad decisions, so I prefer perfect shot.
forest marsh
@wanton elm Re: indicator for Bloodstone locations, that feedback already exists ๐
wanton elm
Alright, I tried to scan through as much feedback as I could before posting but I must've missed it.
forest marsh
Shiatori posted it on Dec 20 if that helps you find it
You can search with Ctrl+F in the feedback channel as well
wanton elm
Nice, thank you
ivory dragon
lol fun cast run on hydra: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv8erJRfzVg&feature=youtu.be
thats only like the 3rd cast run ive done
true shot aint so bad
forest marsh
True Shot is a lot of fun, especially with Quick Reload and Burst Shot added in
ivory dragon
^
tender zephyr
Anything is better than Steady Shot
rigid trout
which one is steady shot?
lost rose
i believe it's the slower charge in return for up to 3x damage on regular attack
but by slower it means, like, waaaay slower
forest marsh
Athena dash isn't as bad as it may first seem, it just requires more technique and less spam-dashing
You have to alter your playstyle to use it as an active defence rather than an escape mechanism, if that makes sense
ivory dragon
thats true, i found it more useful when i made my dashes more deliberate - still not a huge fan of the pace change but its not bad!
rigid trout
trying more bow runs
forest marsh
Best of luck! If you need inspiration on technique, try watching Dino's speedrun(s) with the bow
rigid trout
died to brimstone
ugh i'm having a hard time getting used to it, that's all
can't wait to get a controller, might put off mastering the bow till then
ivory dragon
if i used a controller id probably die in the bedroom ๐ฆ
its like an Egyptian tool unearthed to me now lol
forest marsh
I find it fairly intuitive, I'm sure you'd get it under control quick enough
rigid trout
your favored weapon?
ivory dragon
I'd have to rewire my brain but yeah probs
personally: atm its sword. was bow, but did that too much
cant really decide with any one weapon for too many runs haha
forest marsh
Variety is nice, that's why just going with whatever has Dark Thirst on it can be fun
ivory dragon
i like the control you get with it, like being able to twitch aim/release
for fast movers
forest marsh
You can rebind, can't you?
ivory dragon
deathboat bow / kbm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIZNGqz4Ibo
forest marsh
If the control is awkward for you
rigid trout
ugh now i'm trash with the sword again
lost rose
desgusting
glossy slate
the boat
ivory dragon
i blame @forest marsh
glossy slate
what did it do to deserve you showing up
forest marsh
It's ok, it's probably my fault anyway 
rigid trout
admittedly aretemis's dash is pretty bomb with the bow
ivory dragon
it is like peanut butter and jelly
forest marsh
On a couple nice slices of critspy toast
rigid trout
maybe i'll go to bed early tonight...
forest marsh
I frequently say that to myself... And then midnight inevitably rolls around anyway
glossy slate
if that isn't a mood
forest marsh
Moar Hades moar better
true dock
I think a lot of people find survival rooms really lame: They're super chaotic and will curbstomp a run if you're new to the game or you just lazily run in circles or spend a full minute just nuking things as they spawn. They're kind of lame as gimmicks go. I was thinking, what if they turned down the spawn rates a bit but made it so some kind of magical barrier (first thought is fire but that would be murder on the performance and visibility) slowly made the room smaller and smaller so that you're forced to deal with some enemies or more frantically scramble as the clock ticks down?
This definitely doesn't belong in feedback since it's a pie-in-the-sky suggestion, but I'd love to see any changes to fixing survival rooms.
forest marsh
Yeah, and there's feedback about them already anyway ๐
That's an interesting idea, though. I don't think it would work though and would definitely be murder for new players (more so than it already is when they try to fight though it)
I like the idea of either scrapping them entirely and replacing the general idea with something else, or else incentivizing the player to fight while also not requiring them to do so. This balances out survivability with challenge and reward. My idea was/is to have a reward system similar to the Infernal Trove, except it's kills over time when kills are unlimited โ in contrast to the Troves where it's a set number of enemies and your reward is based on how long it takes you to kill them, the reward would be based on how many kills you make in X amount of time
turbid needle
Well, survival rooms are really punishing! So maybe they should be used as a punishment for something - like the chance to get a survival room increases the more...money you have or something. Additinoally survival rooms should be more rewarding as well! But I dunno ๐ The difficulty seems to flactuate a lot too, depending on the enemies you get
forest marsh
Survival rooms already are a punishment... for trying to escape the Underworld 
pastel jolt
survival rooms are great fun if you have an op setup
rigid trout
@turbid needle okay rude 
Dude, i have a dislike for people who are like... "iF yOu DoN't LiKe StUpIdLy ChAlLeNgInG gAmEz ThEn Go PlAy SoMeThInG ElSe, GiT gUd ScRuBbBbB"
had those kinds of fans with don't starve
and 7 days to die
it's why i was hesitant to join this discord cuz i was like uh oh, are they all gonna be hard core strategists who can't deal with people who aren't as good as them.
lost rose
I mean, there are definitely a lot of strategists here and that's fine, there are a ton of different ways to play the game. But so far I haven't observed anyone being elitist or anything, and that different focus is why we have a separate channel for gameplay strats versus discussion! If I wasn't moderating, I'd never read in here because it just isn't of any interest to me, but the discussion and spoilers channels are. We'd like people to feel like there are spaces for lots of different kinds of conversations here - they don't have to be at the exclusion of other types of discussion!
So far, I've seen this channel be very helpful to people who come here with questions about strats and about beating bosses
lost rose
I think they're just making a suggestion?
lost rose
About how those rooms are challenging and should give greater rewards
rigid trout
sorry, i should really go to bed i'm probably not doing anyone any favors, it being 4 in the morning
lost rose
Sleep is good!
rigid trout
and my brain being all ... tired
sorry if i ruffled feathers, it wasn't how i meant any of that
got a thought lodged in my head and couldn't get rid of it
lost rose
That's fine, I was just a little confused ^^;
rigid trout
yeah, i didn't wanna upset anyone or accuse anyone
anyway, i'm gonna ecuse myself before i really upset someone lol
but wait
does anyone have good suggestions on using the traps against your opponents? ๐
tawdry sleet
watching a speedrun by that Di no guy
why does he keep intentionally triggering traps?
am I missing something?
ohhhh the keepsake for added damage below 40%
Did he find a way to force a seed? Or just keep giving up till the right one triggered
lost rose
I think just giving up until he got the right one
heady mango
Survival rooms aren't a challenge
You can complete them without taking damage if you have at least lvl2 dash
Just move from one corner to another dashing and stand still until the enemies catch up then rotate again
It's basically a free room which is lame
safe osprey
ey
the thing in this game is if i wanna play certain weapon with certain boons, if i get it then great good run, if i dont then basically fk up
tawdry sleet
Added some feedback to do with stat tracking
I did search but didn't see much beyond vague feedback
Love me some stats 
autumn yarrow
@tawdry sleet 
tawdry sleet
@autumn yarrow
autumn yarrow
One of us! One of us! Once of us!
turbid needle
@rigid trout Oh no man, I hope you are okay :/ I think it's just a bit of miscommunication here on both sides ๐ Aren't we all a bit tired? ๐ I am actually 100% with you on the survival rooms being tough and punishing! I tried to suggest ways to make that be a good thing though, maybe that wasn't clear enough. Anyways I think I already mentioned that I would love the game to be able to cater to "casuals" as well, maybe by allowing several of the heirlooms to be used at the same time in exchange for less keys/shadow gems or something like that ๐ So don't worry your input is just as much appreciated as the input of hardcore strageists in my opinion (and I'm sure pretty most if not all people would agree with me here!)
worn dawn
Go team filthy casuals \o/
rough condor
so I made a clip of my flurry blade zeus legendary in the hydra fight from yesterday. am I allowed to post it here? or is it some kind of a spoiler? also this is no self promo for my stream. just want to show you the most fun build in my opinion 
turbid needle
Well I for one would like to see it ~
lost rose
Here is fine, curl!
worn dawn
Flurry blade is life
turbid needle
Ough ๐
turbid needle
Looks crazy yeah ๐ I never get a long chain of boons like that with even lvl.5 stuff ๐ฎ I feel like I only get keys and hearts and what not ๐
rough condor
just wait until you get to a double god room. preferable poseidon. the combination of poseidon enhanced enemies and the lightningbolts just break the game
fps <5
worn dawn
Oh no
pastel jolt
oh my god, i usually go worldsplitter on sword but that is marvellous
turbid needle
๐ haha yeah I remember you talking about that on your stream yesterday
rough condor
im always trying to get one flurry zeus run in my streams at least
it is just so much fun
i also like worldsplitter but nothing comes to this one
worn dawn
I still love flurry Athena
And just being invincible and mashing your face against things until they die
rough condor
yeah the immunity time is really high
pastel jolt
man clearly i need to run sword more often
worn dawn
Sword is best weapon
Itโs so fun
Attack is fun, special is fun, itโs a great time
pastel jolt
iโve been mostly just going with whatever has dark thirst on it because i want more mirror stuff
rough condor
well i did an double edge run and a special sword run yesterday. was not so much fun tbh 
yeah I skipped that part already sparrow
pastel jolt
i finally maxed out my cast ammo so iโm excited to start trying more cast-heavy builds
worn dawn
Zeus cast is so good
pastel jolt
they donโt really seem worth it when you only have the one ammo, lol
worn dawn
Zeus cast is my plan for finally getting a bow win
By just not bothering with the bow part
pastel jolt
pffft
rough condor
what
pastel jolt
my only wins so far are with bow
rough condor
get used to powershot ran-dusa
pastel jolt
what are you doing so badly
worn dawn
Dying mostly
rough condor
just try it out at the skelly in your weapon room
worn dawn
Hydra gets me every time ;_;
turbid needle
Yo curl, you should try a new game and try to win with no upgrades ๐ It's tooough
worn dawn
I usually grab the hammer to instantly shoot
rough condor
i already did in the current patch/build with every weapon
turbid needle
I don't tink instant shoot is good!
rough condor
@ no mirror runs
turbid needle
Damn. I see ๐
rough condor
instant shoot is only "viable" with ares attack modifier
rough condor
any other enhancement for the normal attack is not good for rapid shot
and i really hate the quick zoom in zoom out thing when you pick up rapid shot
every time you shoot
worn dawn
Def does not feel good
low escarp
hello guys i'm a new member on this channel , i join this because i got a few questions about hades . If i buy this game on epicgames i just need to download it on that site ? if my friend log in my early epicgame acc can he download this game on his pc and when this game release on steam how can i add it to my steam library
turbid needle
Yup
rough condor
that is so annoying
worn dawn
Youโll need to buy it separately for steam
pastel jolt
getting to grips with power shot is really the only way to git gud with bow
worn dawn
That takes actual skill ;_; Iโm doomed
turbid needle
@worn dawn Go team filthy casuals \o/! ๐
pastel jolt
i donโt get every powershot but i usually get most of them
worn dawn
Bow is just so not-the-sword
rough condor
@low escarp yes seperately for every platform. and letting your friend into your epic account is against TOS because accountsharing. so not allowed
turbid needle
@worn dawn that is like literally the definition of a bow though haha
low escarp
i thought on FAQ early access it said Will I have to buy the full version after Early Access?
No. โHadesโ is a premium game thatโs yours to play as much as you want once you buy it, whenever you buy it. Earlier adopters will receive the many free major updates we expect to release as we continue building the game in Early Access.
worn dawn
THATโS THE PROBLEM
low escarp
oh i see
worn dawn
Half of my 10ish hydra kills are with sword ;_;
low escarp
so if my friend want to play he need to buy one and there is no way to share game like steam ?
worn dawn
Yup
rough condor
exactly+
turbid needle
Well technically steam does not allow for friends sharing games either right?
turbid needle
Do you mean with family sharing?
rough condor
it is called friends and family sharing @ steam
oh wait
it isnt
it is only called family sharing
turbid needle
Hmm, it's just family sharing right? and it's supposed to share games on ONE PC, one location
rough condor
Steam Family Sharing
Share your Steam library of games with family & guests
turbid needle
exactly
I'm aware most people don't use it that way, but it's technically not exactly legal
rough condor
i never used it anyway
low escarp
so if my friend log in my epicgame acc which is already purchase the game and downloaded to my pc my friend cant download it to his pc ?
or he can download but cant play ?
turbid needle
@low escarp . It's 20 bucks. Don't eat out or skip a couple beers and you can afford it. Please try and support SuperGiantGames.
rough condor
i think your account will be locked if he logs in to your account in a different location
"he"
turbid needle
And if you or your friend really can't afford 20 bucks. You can just play the game together at one pc - old school like.
low escarp
i know just asking because this is the first time that i use this platform
turbid needle
It's just, you know going on the discord server of an indie company and inquire on how to minimize the amount of money to spend for the maximum amount of people to play it (regardless of the intentions) is kind of... I am just not a fan of that you know ๐ Also this does not belong into #h1-builds-and-combat anyways.
rough condor
โค
hard holly
You dont happen to be german, curl?
rough condor
i am
hard holly
Knew it
rough condor
nice german accent 
hard holly
Yeah, a lot of german streamers have it
Im a bit confused why I dont
Ive got some kind of accent, but its best described as one that "doesnt even know itself where its from"
rough condor
probably because you spoke/speak a lot more english. i started streaming a month ago and before that i was never talking in english. just listening
hollow notch
@rough condor are you streaming right now?
turbid needle
@hard holly same here man.
errant narwhal
athena for deflect
pastel jolt
question related to run i'm in right now: if i get the steady shot hammer upgrade for the bow, will i still be able to get the critical from artemis's dash or does it take too long
worn dawn
But yeah Athena is def nice for shield
pastel jolt
i got a hammer to start the run but it's decided to be a meanie and give point-blank, steady, and sniper as my options
hollow notch
I think it should still work
But steady shot is just not good
takes waaaay to much time
rough condor
you have to change the way of shooting than sparrow
pastel jolt
yeah, i might go with point-blank instead....... i don't really wanna throw off my rhythm
pastel jolt
i do tend to spend a lot of time shooting things directly in the face
hollow notch
I think I'll go with ares
pastel jolt
verdict: point blank is Good
hollow notch
darn, got all normals even with the keepsake
I got a hammer of the get go
I decided to go for dread flight - special hits more target
If I get the ares boon on that, should be fun ๐
hollow notch
that goes nice with bow
rough condor
dread flight can also be a burden in asphodel
pastel jolt
tis a rare day indeed when i pass up an aphrodite boon in favour of a pom
hard holly
Unfortunately aphro is kinda bad now
pastel jolt
which would be why i decided to pom up tempest strike some more
hollow notch
I did not think this through
pastel jolt
the weak debuff really does nothing for me when i'm knocking back everything i hit anyways
hollow notch
poseidon dash makes dash-attack unusable
unless you have bow
then it's nice
but it would be nice not getting gang rushed by those skeletons
pastel jolt
showtime lads
worn dawn
Wooo
pastel jolt
down again!
used up one death defy purely because i, like a fool, tried to bug report in the middle of the fight
is it just me or does it look to anyone else like the hydra's extra heads keep getting 'stuck' on the destructible pillars?
or maybe that's just..... where they idle, and it just looks weird bc it's also where the pillar is
rough condor
they just idle there
hollow notch
going to the hydra with less than 30 hp ๐
errant narwhal
gl!
hollow notch
nope, couldn't make it through the last head spawn
autumn tapir
As much as I love insulting the sword, World Splitter (+400% damage, only one attack) plus buffing the boon to increase critical chance on every attack, plus the boon for massively increased crit damage against armored enemies is very effective
easy 380 damage virtually every attack against Asphodel enemies
formal hill
i havent even made it to the last head spawn ๐ญ
i make it to uh, the second head spawning event
(the one with four)
true dock
Somebody convince me knock back is worth it. I absolutely hate knock back on anything as it hyper inflates how long it takes to kill anything unless you specifically get massive wall slam damage increase. In Asphodel, knocking around Brimstone, Witches, and Voidstones makes them float over the lava out of reach.
The only shield upgrade I think is worth much is the one with 150% damage on attack and knock back removed.
plucky oxide
The only thing i like knockback on, is sword special. Mostly because that move is unsafe as it is, and the damage+% should be helping it one shot/burst more.
next basin
there is an upgrade from poseidon that it does more dmg and 1 that makes a wall hit stun
hollow notch
it's very good on bow
plucky oxide
Shield upgrade with % damage reduction is nuts as well.
Helps enable my damage retaliation builds a bit.
glossy slate
Knockback on bow is fantastic, especially since wall slam damage seems to be based on momentum
And if you get triple shot, it removes the inherent risk in getting right up in the enemyโs face
hard holly
Knockback makes boneless die to the lava
analog crystal
I love knockback, but does anyone else feel it's a little inconsistent sometimes?
Like a wretch that should be knocked back isn't
glossy slate
Any enemy that can dash is immune to knockback during the animation
glossy slate
You
hard holly
Hehehehehe
I wish we could see Meg making drinks, Im sure she would be able to whip up something quite good
glossy slate
glossy slate
more or less yeah
the wall slam damage seems to be based on how fast the enemy was moving on impact
analog crystal
Sometimes I'm smashing an unarmoured enemy into a wall again and again and its not doing the extra damage
glossy slate
I haven't noticed that issue in Tartarus but it's near impossible to get wall slam damage in Asphodel
I'm assuming it's something wrong with the geometry
tulip timber
It is. Plenty of things stop knockback, not everything does damage. I'm not sure how much falling debris contributes to the game.
With current implementation.
hard holly
I do like the falling debris
But its hard to use consistently, especially since where it drops seems random
tulip timber
Don't be filthy.
ivory dragon
if column destruction was more controlled as a fixed aoe, i might be tempted to pick it up in some runs. Maybe.
tulip timber
^^^
I tried shackle a couple times. Noticed it like twice over those runs. It's supremely minor.
hard holly
Thats what Dusaid
ivory dragon
I can feel the heated eyes of mods watching chat closely ๐ค
hard holly
Besides everyone knows Meg is superior to Dusa
glossy slate
I will fight you
ivory dragon
you know, I actually agree with uno ๐ญ
hard holly
Given how much my puns hurt you, you will try
tulip timber
Meg reminds me of a stoner girlfriend from grad school with her moodiness.
analog crystal
Shackle I've found is quite nice with spear and good positioning
glossy slate
glossy slate
Dusa is perfect you leave her alone
ivory dragon
I love the interactions between zag and meg. really adds to the flavor of the game's personalities
hard holly
Thats being human
errant narwhal
anyway mods are watching and keep it clean yall
tulip timber
That's fair. I meant more her overall tone and demeanor; just reminds me of someone I knew. ๐
tulip timber
SOMEBOHDAYYYYY
ivory dragon
only that song played when i lived in australia for a year. But back on topic, I wonder what kind of thematic the new floors might have
hard holly
Elysium is going to be all bright and golden
With lots of extremely impractical architecture
tulip timber
Or it's going to be mucked up like Asphodel.
ivory dragon
I wonder if we'll be cursed with a 3rd layer of shields o.O
glossy slate
I imagined Elysium as more of a foresty setting
hard holly
You mean Super-armour
glossy slate
It will amuse me
ivory dragon
I worry about you
ivory dragon
hahaha
ivory dragon
you know what i call meg
glossy slate
hey that's not controversial or anything
ivory dragon
errr rather you know what i call dusa
glossy slate
that's just having taste
ivory dragon
plsdontkillme
grand patrol
dusa: i love mistki her songs really get me
hard holly
With that the question has been objectively answered
ivory dragon
I feel I've done something horrible akin to creating new world-ending technology
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
there is always next run
ivory dragon
bahaha
glossy slate
canned bread?
ivory dragon
for some reason canned bread made me think of canned dog food, which made me think of Cerberus, which in turn made me realize we could have some good opportunity for quadruped monsters.
hard holly
How about a Minotaurtaur
ivory dragon
Imagine a minotaur boss where the battle axe swing takes up the majority of the room, with ample reaction time animation
๐ค
glossy slate
gotta git gud at using I-frames then
hard holly
Also give us a way to use Dusa as an in-human shield
ivory dragon
wait you werent already doing that?
glossy slate
ivory dragon
come to think of it, if the goal is to escape upwards out of hades...
just hold on to dusa when she flies off
ez game ez life
hard holly
Imagine if thats the inevitable floor skip mechanic we get
You just ride on up by holding onto Dusa
ivory dragon
id pay to see that
glossy slate
that would imply Dusa would be able to function while Zag is touching her
ivory dragon
I also imagine marketing power behind creating dusa balloons for supergiant games parties and video shoots
glossy slate
just grab on and use the power of panic?
hard holly
Well, shyness moreso than panic
glossy slate
I suppose that means Meg sends you home with the power of Pain
ivory dragon
no pain no gain
empty canopy
what you need to ask is: can dusa carry someone who is more then double her bodyweight with her, and how far up does she go
empty canopy
aye
hard holly
African or European?
empty canopy
Greek. Duh.
glossy slate
I wonder if we'll have to fight Dusa's sisters
stray radish
lol tfw you die and even Hades is like 'you surely could've avoided that'
thanks, dad
ivory dragon
I might be an outlier, but I love games that trash talk me when I mess up lol
stray radish
im pretty sure thats the first time that's happened to me xD
glossy slate
walk past the desk after a bad kill
vapid mauve
Harsh but fair
glossy slate
Hades mutters "get rekt" without ever looking up
grand patrol
git gud, boy.
ivory dragon
oh hades is super tame compared to what i mean
grand patrol
personaly i love it when a game trash talks me its so funny
glossy slate
I like Hypnos
ivory dragon
im thinking gladOS you just did something stupid levels
stray radish
no but it wasnt even at home, i just died at Meg and he's like, mocking me on the way home thru the blood xD
thats somehow even more hysterical
ivory dragon
hahaha
glossy slate
"Oh I see you died to spikes this time, have you considered not standing on them?"
ivory dragon
there was that whole sarcastic skit about dying a lot just to visit hypnos
was great
stray radish
omg
empty canopy
Hades goes "you can't even kill a gorgon? how do you think i hired dusa as the cleaner?"
Zag: "i just assumed your sour demeanor burned her body away by merely being there"
Hades: "Says the person who failed to kill one in the first place"
stray radish
ok, time to get killed again~~
glossy slate
I'm honestly really hoping for like a Euryale/Stheno tag team boss fight
ivory dragon
you know what makes me sad about that phrase @stray radish
I've said that for 20+ years
in gaming
glossy slate
mood
ivory dragon
and my community called me out on it when hades released
empty canopy
Seriously though, how does Zag manage to keep his spirits up? If it was me i would be so done with everyone about escape attempt 12
stray radish
he's filled with determination
ivory dragon
well keep in mind, we don't see ANYTHING from before he decided to escape
could have been a lot of depression before the game starts for all we know
grand patrol
i think hes chill cause it hasnt quite hit him yet that what hes doing is particularly weird or upsrtting
stray radish
i just made myself sad
grand patrol
OOOH YES
ivory dragon
fun fact: you can edit the game strings fairly easily ๐ค
stray radish
fun fact: if i touch the code of anything, i will break it
grand patrol
cant wait for a big zag breakdown later on
stray radish
in ways no one even considered could be possible to break xD
ivory dragon
one thing that gets me about the art direction is the two contrasting eyes. its entirely possible there is a "side" of zag we don't even know?
empty canopy
zag having a breakdown is barely noticable to zag normaly, his snark just has a bit more bite to it
glossy slate
it might just be a nod to his myth
Zag was responsible for humans containing both good and evil
grand patrol
"hey zag im sorry for what youre going through"
"Sorry? whats to be sorry its just life, ykno, the daily grind"
"It.......really isnt"
(zagreus has a breakdown)
pastel jolt
okay i know what i'm doing now
empty canopy
it's like how holt from brooklyn nine nine's tell is contractions in his speach: zag just is a bit more ruthless with the jokes but everyone can tell that for him that's a full on freakout
little grotto
can someone explain what this cast and surge mechanic is with the Ares legendary boon?
empty canopy
he has orpheus play ride of the valkyries when what he WANTS to listen to is crawling in my skin, because he wants the others to be happy
i could not think of a happy song off my head
ivory dragon
@little grotto i believe its referring to your magic cast and dash abilities
Blade Surge > Blade Dash
little grotto
the surge/dash part is what i dont get
stray radish
surge forgot to rename itself after a patch
ivory dragon
basically the dash drops a spinner at the source location
little grotto
oh so the surge part refers to the blade rifts created with dashes i guess, well i got the legendary boon with only my cast doing blade rift but not my dash
ivory dragon
do you have the Blade Dash boon as well?
that might be the limiting factor there
so "if you can already drop rifts when you dash, they now also gain these new properties" kind of thing. Haven't messed with it, but would make sense
little grotto
no i dont have blade dash, i will pick it if i have the opportunity to try it
ivory dragon
awesome let me know! I feel like that's the answer to the mystery ๐
stray radish
...are 2 in 1 upgrades from boons that common?
ivory dragon
legendary boons
everything else is mostly just 1 or the other
like artemis upgrades attack and cast simultaneously
stray radish
i know there are some that give you like attack and dash/cast bonus damage, maybe epics
huh
ivory dragon
https://hades.gamepedia.com/Hades_Wiki has pretty cool details
stray radish
maybe it just rolled one not two for Ronnie
ivory dragon
ok time to do a run
oh, ok. see you in a few minutes https://i.imgur.com/HTwsGtV.png
ggwp
little grotto
the real question, can you charge 3 shots in one sec?
ivory dragon
well i guess the game loves me now https://i.imgur.com/xxfcLXt.png
@little grotto all things are possible ๐ค
last image i swear but, this is just dumb already https://i.imgur.com/ZKZvgH4.png
glossy slate
Stockholm syndrome from you bullying it all the time
stray radish
geez
little grotto
oof, hydra down
rapid shot with curse of agony is still op
and the pulling blade rifts were good to kill the bloodless skeletons
ivory dragon
back that was dumb lol
little grotto
what
analog crystal
I hope they don't nerf the bow too hard in the next patch
It'll be interesting to see how SGG does balancing
If they'll pull a blizzard and ruin it lmao
tulip timber
I don't think bow is too out of line. Plenty of people struggle with it still. Balance wise it makes sense to only change the truly busted before the full arc of the game is available.
What's busted on floor 2 may well be fine on floor 3+
ivory dragon
i dont really think its the bow itself thats too strong
tulip timber
And getting those super-dense crazy strong runs will be harder with more room reward options (deeper god pool, maybe more pickups, etc.)
tulip timber
I will be surprised if dash crit remains a guaranteed crit through final release.
That seems to break most every weapon in one way or another.
And seems to be a core staple for a lot of people.
ivory dragon
i feel like sword is currently the most balanced, but they probably spent more time on it than anything else if i had to guess
pure ice
I started off thinking that the bow was the worst weapon. Now its the only one I've been able to kill the hydra with
ivory dragon
my friend didn't like the bow until he watched me chunk the hydra once per phase on a run last week
with triple shot
pure ice
triple shot + dash crit + dash damage mirror upgrade + whatever attack boost boon you wind up with = broken game
tulip timber
It always feels like at least one of the core actions (attack, special, dash, spell) gets ignored each run. Dunno if that'll be avoidable in final build since the game encourages maxing the bejeezus out of one or two things.
true dock
Sword definitely seems the most dynamic. It has a three hit combo with each hit having different hitbox, damage, and frame data. The last hit even has slight movement and massive knockback. It has the most obvious dash attack that has its own properties as well.
tulip timber
What I liked about Bastion was you had to use all your tools, particularly when you started adding nasty god effects.
true dock
Technically the shield and spear have dash attacks, but they're indiscernible from the normal attack. Shield is only noticeable because you can attack twice super rapidly if you do a dash attack into a normal attack
pure ice
I'm appreciating the sword more than I used to, but have yet to find a good way to deal with bomb users or Meg with it
tulip timber
Meg is more about avoiding her stuff and hitting her when she's not doing stuff than whatever weapon you're using.
true dock
Yeah. Meg fight is basically wait for her to dash, dash behind her, get some damage in, create some space, rinse and repeat.
ivory dragon
one thing i like about the shield is dash attack and hold for a quick bull rush follow up
pure ice
which is fine and cool. I'm just bad at doing that :p
ivory dragon
but thats more just gameplay fun than anything else
tulip timber
Best thing you can do to learn Meg better is to take your time and observe more rather than dashy dashy all the time.
That's what helped me the most.
true dock
I've been trying to make some dumb bull rush build with the nearly instant bull charge upgrade
ivory dragon
only time i really dash on meg is if she's getting ready to charge or activating her aoe from being in close prox
true dock
But the damage seems too weak for it to be really viable
pure ice
but going dashy dashy all the time with the bow absolutely destroys her so well
tulip timber
Oh yeah, dashy dashy with bow is basically required.
But for melee if you're just zipping all over the place hoping to land close enough when she's open, you're gonna have a bad time.
pure ice
yeah
tulip timber
It's hard to get backstab bullrush damage. Is I think it's biggest weakness. But if you do it right you then get backstab normal attack damage. shrug So that makes up for it I think.
pure ice
I kinda like how the shield is ill suited for backstab damage. Gives it its own feel and justifies different mirror builds
tulip timber
I guess. Right now mirror for me is just to dump more points into epic chance.
ivory dragon
i typically just snag something like ares curse damage and use the basic attack as a safe damage option in floor2
since you push them back still
(even armored)
tulip timber
I'm hoping they add more mirror stuff. Not sure what; preferably more utility things than raw damage. I think it has enough of that.
pure ice
absolutely
ivory dragon
id personally prefer the mirror to be capped out before unlocking everything
so you'd have to choose what you find more valuable each run
tulip timber
I also like that, but then what happens to the Darkness room reward.
ivory dragon
ive got a full mirror and it completely trivializes basically everything haha
tulip timber
More and more the "bag full of collectibles you don't need" as a weapon makes more sense. ๐
Keys and darkness sack.
true dock
Viable in the sense that it doesn't take years to finish a run. You can finish a run with anything, but it's rarely very fun or rewarding.
ivory dragon
again that depends
like i dont enjoy bow runs much atm
because its too easy
i find more enjoyment out of random stuff and dealing with random limitations
but im not the next player, im only me so its just a difference in whats "fun"
true dock
Then I'll just backstep and say "viable" was used in the more colloquial sense of "strong in the game"
because if viable is just determined by what can be used to beat the game, then literally anything is viable
pure ice
I like the idea of the mirror being minor boosts and the keepsakes being major boosts, but I feel like that system would require the ability to use multiple keepsakes at once
ivory dragon
thats kind of the definition i run on
true dock
you can play blindfolded with just bullrushing
ivory dragon
viable != strong
imo
but i get what you are saying and it makes sense in understanding your words so thank you ๐
hurray language i guess
and of course, a lot of things are going to change with something like a 3rd floor coming in, for sure
we may end up in a position in the future where Poseidon will become more valuable for the pushback
true dock
I'm very surprised that Poseidon didn't get a whirlpool effect for a legendary or maybe even a cast
ivory dragon
that'd be cool
tulip timber
Poseidon is my favorite utility cast. Reasonable damage. HUUUUGE AoE.
ivory dragon
@pure ice when it comes to roguelites, i like my unlocks to be more based on options rather than "boosts". I like to be able to gauge my actual growth as a player over time rather than "just how many boosts I collected"
things like gungeon / isaac unlocking new items and optional ways to play etc
without just saying "hey more health now!" etc
@tulip timber how do you feel about weakness via Aphrodite atm?
tulip timber
It's hard to tell on main attack, TBH. I don't think it effects enough to matter. I think it could linger more for single target applicators.
For AoE, I think it's pretty solid, but if you're getting hit on currently available content you did something wrong.
Bow special with charm legendary run was fun, but I only had it for the last 3 or 4 rooms.
Poms should increase duration of debuff.
little grotto
you mean the weakness duration?
tulip timber
Yeah.
little grotto
there is a boon for that
tulip timber
I know, but it feels like it fits better on a Pom. Boon should be something more interesting.
little grotto
i mean i get it you want the duration to increase as you level the aphrodite boons
tulip timber
Like make it spread to nearby enemies or something.
glossy slate
it works fine as is in my opinion
tulip timber
The "spread on death" thing has too small an AoE, and its damage may as well be 0.
glossy slate
you have to get the boring boons before you unlock the more interesting ones from the same god
little grotto
yeah that doesnt really do a whole lot
glossy slate
yeah that one's a bit...useless
making it send out projectiles in random directions might make it more useful
tulip timber
Or leave an area affect behind for 5 seconds or something that gets everything that walks through it.
sand canopy
sword speciel with weak works well with lightning dash really fun build
glossy slate
Pheromone cloud
tulip timber
Love Puddle
grand patrol
hey ๐ keep it clean in here
tulip timber
๐
I dunno, I've done my last 4 or 5 runs with Aphro as my relic and don't really notice the debuff doing much without the legendary. For her T2s, compare sweet surrender to, say, Black Metal (Ares giant spinny rings) or Storm Lightning (more lightning bounces). Or geeze, Clean Kill (critzorz).
glossy slate
I've mentioned it before, but I think Aphro is really going to start showing her power when more floors are added
tulip timber
I think having "boring boons" as a required stop to more interesting things is bad design.
glossy slate
she seems geared more towards a tank playstyle
true dock
I think Sweet Surrender works alright in some builds. (Sweet Surrender is the % damage increase to targets afflicted with weak, right?)
glossy slate
yes
tulip timber
Yeah. But it's 10%.
true dock
Can it be buffed?
glossy slate
her strength is going to be that 50% attack debuff coupled with her enormous damage resistance
true dock
With poms, I mean.
true dock
Because a 10% damage increase seems like it'd be nice with weapons like Flurry sword or the spear
Things that do slow big hits, eh, but fast stuff seems like it's a nice damage buff
tulip timber
Could be. I've done everything but sword so far. Spear was pretty good with AoE on the normal attack.
still pewter
those upgrades are kind of what we should be looking to avoid. more damage is not interesting and can be potentially dangerous for balance
tulip timber
That is the best pairing. Besides Artemis, which goes good with everything.
still pewter
people already think crit dash is too much
tulip timber
I am among those people.
glossy slate
it would be slow, but having Aphro's weakness and damage resistance on top of the absurd health Poseidon can get you
still pewter
and I'm pretty sure ares/aphrodite dmg buffs are multiplicative, which is more often than not a recipe for disaster
glossy slate
they seem to be calculated after the other boon buffs but before crit/backstab
tulip timber
Yeah, I do think there are too many passive damage boosts. At least crit dash requires something from you as a player to make it work.
I just think it requires too little (of something you're already doing) and gives too much.
glossy slate
honestly right now it's way too easy to win with just crit dash and an attack buff
tulip timber
I don't play that different with or without crit dash because of angry mirror buff.
It just changes how fast things pop.
true dock
Which one is Black Metal? I don't know it off the top of my head but it's being compared a lot
still pewter
yeah, your build is basically done in 2 boons
glossy slate
๐
still pewter
black metal is mega blades
glossy slate
double, at base I think
still pewter
bfb
true dock
Ah, okay.
still pewter
big fin blades
tulip timber
It makes his circles usable. ๐
true dock
I am hoping they do more interesting stuff with the dashes. Most of the dash stuff is "Dash plus some damage"
glossy slate
couple it with his vacuum boon and then you can just dash around and not care at all
still pewter
yeah busty I agree
glossy slate
Poseidon's is cool
like shoulder tackling your way through the enemies instead of just blinking around
still pewter
athena is also cool. barring what many people think about it
tulip timber
I dunno, Aphro's doesn't do hardly any damage but spreads debuff well. Poseidon has YEET. Zeus can become TOO much damage if you get an epic and dump Poms into it. Ares is useless without Black Metal.
still pewter
athena is more along the lines of the design they should be aiming imo
tulip timber
And yeah, Athenas is probably the best as far as modifying the ability goes.
glossy slate
I really think Athena needs some different buffs
still pewter
yeah
glossy slate
she's way too powerful as is
highest damage modifiers out of any god, and deflection on everything
still pewter
idk. dmg modifier can be easily changed
tulip timber
Ares has the most confusing identity at the moment I think. Delayed extra punch + bladey things when every other God has a clear theme through all buffs.
true dock
Ares feels like he's just supposed to be "damage" but everything does some kind of damage
still pewter
i'd like each gods have more of a fleshed out theme and less just a unique keyword
glossy slate
exactly
tulip timber
The Greek gods were the original Robot Masters.
true dock
I was actually really disappointed that "Blade rift" didn't mean that your dash left a big scar in the ground behind you and then swords popped out a second later
still pewter
Haephestus built em and zeus powered em
tulip timber
I think the casts also have pretty good themes. But Athena's seems the most eh.
hard holly
Sweet Surrender was really broken for a while
As it stands, it and Aphrodite as a whole is really weak
tulip timber
I heard Aphro has been nerfed preeeetty hard.
hard holly
Understatement of the year
She is actively bad now
Pretty much the only boons of hers you could reasonably want are the damage reduction and cast one
tulip timber
I do like her shotgun of love.
hard holly
I still maintain that unless the plan is to rework the entire system
The damage% should be the same between the 3
glossy slate
That shotgun is fantastic
hard holly
They all have their own little niche, and instead of making Aphro bad, Id just accentuate the niche of the other 2
Aphro was a crutch when she was broken, now she is just a shell of her former self
glossy slate
Looks like someone mentioned you about 8 hours ago
ivory dragon
discord mentions should be easily found by clicking on this icon in the top right: https://i.imgur.com/38IBARV.png
i dont know why i took a pic instead of just saying the @ icon
rip
glossy slate
You tried
carmine zinc
2nd run finished
carmine zinc
ivory dragon
mmm cyclops jerky, the one well buff ill sometimes get the double duration for
pastel jolt
the well items tend to be really hit and miss for me because it's not always well-defined how long they last for
like i had one that said it lasted for several encounters run out on me in charon's shop when really i'm not so sure that counts as an encounter
tawdry sleet
Need me that update
pastel jolt
patience, young grasshopper
tawdry sleet
I hope we get a tease of what's to come in advance
Even if it's just vague mysteriousness
ivory dragon
it should be 3 rooms, 6 when doubled
tawdry sleet
tawdry sleet
Also can't wait for the next NoClip vid
I wonder if that will coincide with this update
ivory dragon
Have to admit the episodic documentary and monthly update cycle is really smart. Whoever came up with it at supergiant really knows the state of players and the industry
plucky oxide
Who else is gonna cleanse their saves and start fresh with the new update? If we have the choice, that is :v
pastel jolt
i worked too hard for all this darkness to go wiping it all when i don't have to lmao
rigid trout
i almost have enough darkness to get another dash
pastel jolt
do it
plucky oxide
I know what you mean sparrow, but I want to see how fast I can get to first clear starting fresh again. I really liked the slope up to full-kit.
rigid trout
so... use an empty slot???
plucky oxide
True, true. Gotta save the old slot somehow, I guess!
ivory dragon
i probably wont restart, but i do fresh save challenge once every week or so (not sure if ill keep doing it)
spoiled by the pacing atm
carmine zinc
I need like 2600 more darkness and i'll have everything maxed
tawdry sleet
I'm not a fan of grinding stuff
especially not stuff I've already done once
too many games to play with too little time as is ๐
definitely not purging anything willingly
hollow notch
I got two more kills today. One was spear and one was shield. Now I have a kill with each weapon ๐
hollow totem
I managed to clear on run 2 on a fresh save
Artemis triple shot bow
Blessed by rnjesus
pastel jolt
artemis triple shot bow was my first hydra kill, highfive
i've.... only ever killed hydra on a bow run
pastel jolt
it's the weapon i'm comfiest with ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
tender zephyr
You know how you try really hard but keep on failing, but when you're not trying you suddenly succeed. That just happened with me and Megara. I haven't been able to kill her once even loaded up with Hunter's Dash and triple shot. I just kept on getting killed. So I decided to hang up my bow, grab the sword because why not, and Charon's Keepsack to try to get enough gold to purchase one of those room decorations. I only got one Boon too.
Zeus' thunder dash...which I ended up getting 4 Poms for making it deal even more damage than my blade. So I end up killing Meg just by dashing around and avoiding her attacks. That just felt hilarious, and I loved it.
frosty pier
YES LET THE CHEESE FLOW THRU U
tender zephyr
Sorry, cheese stopped. Died first floor of Asphol.
frosty pier
Yeah, Lava town hits hard first time.
glossy slate
and second...and third...
frosty pier
And I stopped talking about the River after 5th time...even after it was nerfed
tender zephyr
At the very least, I achieved my main goal of gathering 200 Gold for the next run.
glossy slate
I've noticed there's a minor bug with cash reward rooms
if you have Ocean's Bounty the amount of money you receive is much higher than what the buff tells you you should get
at a 100% boost you should get 150, but you get well over 300 instead
stray radish
lol I feel that, my first Meg kill was an eh-whatever-i'll-just-farm-ambrosia random run when I wasnt even trying xD true shot with crit spear special, gg
frosty pier
Poseidon is a good uncle. what else can you say.
stray radish
at this point i can fight Meg pretty consistently @_@ i feel the progress
frosty pier
Meg is a good fight... but it just too long.
And really inconsistant atleast for me. It's almost like she needs phases
neon bough
Hey guys, question was prob asked before, but what are good spear builds ? It's the only weapon I haven't killed Hydra with yet, I don't quite "get" it ?
frosty pier
Spin-attack charge, wait for guys, dash for backstab damage... works for me
worn dawn
Double range on attack also makes for nice runs
tender zephyr
I just finished my first run with spear, but I feel like maxing out backstab damage and going for spear throw boosters would be a fun time.
frosty pier
A little gift from Water Uncle makes such good lava kebabs out skeletons
mellow garden
I paid the game today on the ticket and it's been 10 hours and I still have not received the game. can you help me?
frosty pier
Shame enemies have invisible walls to protect them from being fryed.
neon bough
r i o t
frosty pier
Will I get a skeleton kebab at the end?
hard holly
Spear Special is the safest way to play spear
frosty pier
Only it will make you return to the house out of sheer boredom
forest marsh
That's probably true, yes. I maintain that melting enemies with spin is more satisfying, though /opinion
hard holly
Eh, at some point you go numb to that sensation
frosty pier
Ehm dr, we are supposed to be sfw here
glossy slate
?
frosty pier
That crunch is too good to be sfw