crush shot hera
#h1-builds-and-combat
thin yacht
And if you have the Cthonic Companion from ||Meg||, make sure to use it as soon as you gain control over the game again, it deals huge damage to both Asterius and Theseus
dapper harness
beo with trippy flare(dio cast)
inner summit
beo with trippy flare(dio cast)
And with mirage shot I guess
proper furnace
Yeah
Trippy bei is bigger numbers at the cost of less consistency
Need to find at least 1 mirage god in tart/get at least +1 cast + your usual stuff
waxen dragon
Does mirage shot with with crystal beam?
Also does the Artemis Athena duo trigger with divine dash like merciful end? how to make it work best?
proper furnace
Does mirage shot with with crystal beam?
Also does the Artemis Athena duo trigg...
Yes and yes but keep in mind that deadly reversal's wording is that you need to actually deflect something
Not just hit smth with deflect skills
Is a good support boon for ME builds
waxen dragon
Yes and yes but keep in mind that deadly reversal's wording is that you need to ...
For mirage shot, does that mean I have 6 beams?
proper furnace
Yeah
waxen dragon
I didn't notice I had to cast 6 times
proper furnace
No, mirage creates the 2nd beam along with your og cast press
Not add more extra casts
waxen dragon
Oh ok
proper furnace
Yes and yes but keep in mind that deadly reversal's wording is that you need to ...
For deadly reversal as a focus ig you could do either zag bow/spread fire rail
waxen dragon
So deadly reversal not as good as merciful end, does that mean going merciful end for nemesis is better?
proper furnace
Cuz setting up heart rend is slightlyore awkward on those
proper furnace
So deadly reversal not as good as merciful end, does that mean going merciful en...
ME is def better but you can do reversal if you want
waxen dragon
For deadly reversal as a focus ig you could do either zag bow/spread fire rail
Athena on attack?
proper furnace
If its epic I'd take athena atk
waxen dragon
I found difficulty surviving in nemesis without relying on casts
proper furnace
Sword hard
lucid oar
In a normal ME build you can take true shot after you have ME and get deadly reversal, it’s a lot to aim for but it’s good damage if it comes
waxen dragon
Most of my successes on nemesis have been cast builds. Lightning rod, lightning phalanx, hunting blade, crystal clarity. Simply because close quarters combat gets me hit a lot
lucid oar
Think you’d enjoy aspect of Poseidon then
proper furnace
Yeah if you want sword wins w/o touching the actual sword go for pos
waxen dragon
I can dash strike here and there but I can't do it continuously as I get hit
inner summit
Also I did a shackle run with arthur sword! It was pretty nice
waxen dragon
Barely scraped through nemesis run with merciful end
waxen dragon
Also I did a shackle run with arthur sword! It was pretty nice
I've yet to do a shackle run, how do you manage that with the requirement to sell a boon every level?
glacial sonnet
Does the arte-dio duo only increases crit chance on crit boons or does it crit chance to everything?
inner summit
I've yet to do a shackle run, how do you manage that with the requirement to sel...
I didn't get any boon at attack, cast or special! Only at dash and boons like artemis' pressure points
proper furnace
Does the arte-dio duo only increases crit chance on crit boons or does it crit c...
Only on things that have crit chance
So if you want to have it work on non arty stuff you need pressure points first
dawn hollow
how do i build for arthur?
eager flint
basically two ways :
You become a meta slave and use the ubiquitous sword build of double edge + Merciful End, never do something else than dash-strikes (I think you can't even weave special between dash-strikes because of the animation ? idk)
You decide to BALL and go for a big %dmg on the strike (aphro, athena, shackle), shadow slash, and hopefully tidal dash or zeus cast for AoE
sweet blade
Do attack speed effects boost the charge rate of coronacht?
proper furnace
Do attack speed effects boost the charge rate of coronacht?
Only on standing attacks
So not worth it
sweet blade
Doing a run with aspect of lucifer, using ares' keepsake to try and go for a dire misfortune build. Never get offered an ares boon after the first one...
waxen dragon
Nice. I finished my first shackle run. Arthur and unhealthy fixation. Thinking it's also good to get the Aphrodite revenge boon for that. Or go Ares Zeus revenge or smoldering air
waxen dragon
basically two ways :
You become a meta slave and use the ubiquitous sword build ...
Doesn't Aphrodite on strike mean shackle is not useful? Or Aphrodite out paces shackle?
jolly chasm
I would take rare or better aphro attack because it does quickly outpace shackle
eager flint
Doesn't Aphrodite on strike mean shackle is not useful? Or Aphrodite out paces s...
the commas meant "or", not "and". Aphrodite OR Athena OR shackle
and yeah aphro attack can get over 100% relatively quickly
but shackle absolutely deserves a mention
waxen dragon
I found Arthur aspect seems more durable and hard hitting
eager flint
kinda
waxen dragon
The dash strike doesn't seem to hit as hard though
eager flint
except that "hard hitting" implies it has good DPS. Which, it doesn't really have. Too little range, too slow.
The dash strike sucks
the hitbox is a massive scam
if I had an obol for every time an enemy didn't take damage from my arthur dash strike despite being clearly shishkebab I'd be able to buy Styx. Like, the whole river.
and damage wise I think it's only 30 damage ? Compared to other swords which have 25 base damage. With a much better hitbox and speed.
waxen dragon
The special aura is nice though. Easier to dodge things
waxen dragon
I can't say I'm great with dash strikes so I miss a lot when I do so I just swing with Arthur and hope it hits
eager flint
you'll have your little zone for 2 enemies then you're gonna have to leave it behind because you moved to another part of the room
eager flint
I can't say I'm great with dash strikes so I miss a lot when I do so I just swin...
if you need to hit arthur dash strike to be great, every Hades player sucks 
turbid needle
is it widely accepted in the speedrunning community that Demeter is the best fists aspect for speedrunning
proper furnace
yeah
eager flint
yes
turbid needle
thats what I thought
dk why I heard something about gilgamesh being better
cause its not
jolly chasm
Cherry probly said it
eager flint
even local gilga apologist cherry says gilga is worse than demeter
if you play it perfectly
if you don't play it perfectly, the gap widens
quickly
waxen dragon
Does Gilgamesh maim make damage over time stuff increase?
proper furnace
yeah
is "true" global as it also increases dmg from non zag sources
so you get funny boosted meg dmg
eager flint
I don't think there's any damage maim doesn't increase
funny thanatos crit on maimed enemies
waxen dragon
So Gilgamesh is all about applying maim and say doom?
eager flint
eager flint
So Gilgamesh is all about applying maim and say doom?
no lol
waxen dragon
How do you get level 50 boon? I never see that many pom
eager flint
you could probably ask cherry for an indepth take of every gilga skill every realized
vital night
Gilga is about unbinding everything except dash, using fated authority, and starting tdash+everything from Poseidon
eager flint
I'm not even sure how ME gilga plays
You can dash strike to tag everything with doom once
but after that..?
proper furnace
How do you get level 50 boon? I never see that many pom
get sweet nectar as early as possible, have mom's pom the entire run, have fated autorithy
but I said it as a joke
eager flint
Like, you could do special or strike, but it's so sad
vital night
You can dash strike to tag everything with doom once
The idea is that you just game hard enough with the extra dash
eager flint
haelian has a video on everything
proper furnace
true
proper furnace
The idea is that you just game hard enough with the extra dash
gotta be a gamer for those RR procs
just get caustic curse everytime
vital night
Caustic is so good
eager flint
"Hey master Chaos, could I get your curse ? Like, not while waiting for a blessing, just the curse. For the whole run. Please ?"
I'm absolutely positive Chaos would say yes
vital night
I unironically love caustic
eager flint
caustic is the bomb one ?
eager flint
I always take caustic because it's almost free
vital night
Just don’t get hit
eager flint
Then I hit the cloner numbskulls
eager flint
or cloner+red eyeballs exalted
proper furnace
my fav RR proc is lernie's roar
vital night
Goated
eager flint
wait you can't I'm stupid
cloner is tart only
oh my god could you imagine cloner+red eye exalted ?
vital night
💀
proper furnace
ew
eager flint
my fav RR proc is lernie's roar
THAT WORKS ???
proper furnace
yes lmfao
vital night
Imagine in the code it does like 1000 damage
eager flint
near misses were clearly made a friday afternoon at 6pm lol
vital night
Near misses are Goated
proper furnace
but yeah RR + caustic very funny
these are also funny cuz you don't near miss the explosion
you near miss the bomb itself (even if it's midair)
vital night
If you think about it, there’s no reason to play GR over RR because you’re going to be playing monodash at 64 anyways
proper furnace
Near misses are Goated
lightning reflexes my goat
vital night
Yeah
proper furnace
If you think about it, there’s no reason to play GR over RR because you’re going...
none of the 64h clears have +dashes right
vital night
none of the 64h clears have +dashes right
Poshboys doesn’t. I’ve played his savestate
vital night
*wait did someone say gilgamesh*
Yeah weve been gently trashing it
proper furnace
Poshboy's is... The rama one?
proper furnace
Ah
vital night
I think his guan yu was also
proper furnace
No yeah I knew rama was monodash too
keen vortex
Yeah weve been gently trashing it
at least its gentle this time
vital night
everything
proper furnace
Do you gamble in tart ME or go the zeus route
vital night
hyperdelivery, hunting blades, lvl4 epic athena call
ZAP surely
maybe if you hypermodded tart ME
proper furnace
+dashes too right
vital night
yeah
proper furnace
Don't wanna melee super dad
proper furnace
Long knuckle then breaching cross ig?
vital night
yeah
I wonder if dem could do it routed
or no
plume zagfists routed
to get a bunch of dodge
waxen dragon
What's with the wreath around the boons above the door? Sometimes I don't see it with a skull and sometimes I do. Also how do I tell which doors to choose to get say the Patroclus door or Arielle?
proper furnace
What's with the wreath around the boons above the door? Sometimes I don't see it...
what npc is behind ! depends on biome
is tart/eury is aspho/patty is ely
a miniboss room always have a boon + skull
waxen dragon
<:bouldy:523329116934635534> is tart/eury is aspho/patty is ely
Is there a way to make them appear?
paper bone
I just took down Hades a lot faster than I'm used to with Exagryph, and I think it was in large part because of Zeus' Aid, Smoldering Air, Quick Favor, and Clouded Judgment. What do yall think of the build?
waxen dragon
Also what's the point of those titles you get from the ghost in the Hades room?
I don't get how to safely use the call in smoldering air without getting hit.
vagrant crane
I just took down Hades a lot faster than I'm used to with Exagryph, and I think ...
i doubt clouded judgement or quick favor did anythintg
zeus call with smair is obviously good
but more impactful would be a good rest of the build
paper bone
i doubt clouded judgement or quick favor did anythintg
You mean they don't stack?
Well ty
manic notch
but yeah RR + caustic very funny
i actively take caustic for RR procs tbhtbh
manic notch
I'm not even sure how ME gilga plays
i have plenty of vods if youre curious 
plain river
I just took down Hades a lot faster than I'm used to with Exagryph, and I think ...
Smouldering air with the best dps call in the game would go a fair bit
The other boons are putting in less work
Quick favour is almost always doing next to nothing when you have smair
and
Clouded judgement’s effectiveness only matters less than it reads with other sources of global additive
manic notch
even local gilga apologist cherry says gilga is worse than demeter
in practice yeah, but IMHO i think gilga has a skill ceiling even i haven't reached
and also nobody's ever played gilga "perfectly" because the dang thing is too easy to make mistakes on
like.........being able to use gilga cleanly (lol) i could see it having a similar ceiling to dem
plain river
Quick favour is almost always doing next to nothing when you have smair
Even best case (in terms of boon rarity) of heroic quick favour is getting you another zeus call like 1.5s down from
plain river
in practice yeah, but IMHO i think gilga has a skill ceiling even i haven't reac...
So has the demeter skill ceiling been reached or
manic notch
looks @ ananke
plain river
manic notch
its also the matter of developing something nobody else plays
vagrant crane
and gilga and dem are still fists
vagrant crane
so gilga at its best might have maybe just barely close to the potential of the worst weapon in the game
vagrant crane
chiron isn’t a weapon
plain river
ohhhhh
vagrant crane
fists are so crazy to me
you reset for hours to get like only some of the build components and even if you get perfectly all of them the damage still is just complete garbage
plain river
you reset for hours to get like only some of the build components and even if yo...
every aspect that isn’t beo or hera
Oh wait Rama
Too tired for this
Have a good night
Btw that was in terms of
Resetting
manic notch
i mean, rama has its own reset points and build components. twin shot, arty dash/good attack boon, attack chaos, rod pre-reqs
plain river
Ye
but like
Is it as heavy as fists?
I can’t imagine
rod prereqs hold up
tf
U mean R O D or am I
Why would rama take lightning rod
plain river
I need to watch a rama speedrun @ somepoint
vagrant crane
another thing about rama is that it sucks
plain river
vagrant crane
and basically nobody speedruns it for a reason
manic notch
rama world record just didn't get rod but he built towards it lol
vagrant crane
it’s one of the hardest aspects in the game and it also is like not very fast
so not a great or compelling combination to run
plain river
yeah I just couldn’t think of much rng going jnto peak rama
manic notch
and then there's ocaml's 50 heat run
vagrant crane
it scales well with heat
but at low heat the damage is 0
you can get like a decent furies and maybe lernie or maaaaaaybe heroes
manic notch
rama dad fights 
vagrant crane
but like i don’t think it’s even breached 30 seconds on dad
vagrant crane
most things suck
manic notch
gilga can sub-30 i just haven't yet 😌
i've like, skill issued or gotten unlucky any time i've had a build good enough
vagrant crane
on the one good aspect you can sub25 pretty easily and it’s downhill from there
nova relic
hey im new to the game and I've seen vids on yt with builds, telling you what boons you should use
now how do i get the boons that i need?
is there a way to plan the next boons/chamber
or is just all luck of getting what you need
proper furnace
hey im new to the game and I've seen vids on yt with builds, telling you what bo...
Use god keepsakes to get their boon from the start/know what opens what boons (can use codex upgrade for this or wikis)/use dark foresight and fated persuasion on the mirror
There's a site with builds pinned here that also goes in more detail about this
vagrant crane
hey im new to the game and I've seen vids on yt with builds, telling you what bo...
i would not trust builds from youtube
visual harbor
so...... For my Normal mode playthrough, I haven't reached 3 stars for the GOD Keepsakes, should I?
vital night
Yeah
visual harbor
ok thanks
glacial sonnet
is chaos dash strike worth it on fists
vagrant crane
yes because it also adds to dash upper
glacial sonnet
epic
explosive dem upper amen
nova relic
i would not trust builds from youtube
why?
vagrant crane
not gonna be good advice
jolly chasm
Yeah most YouTube builds range from painfully mediocre to just bad
Sleeps souls beginner speed run guide has a lot of strong builds in it, even if you’re not speedrunning
errant narwhal
yes because there is not a hera boon in the game
there is a bow aspect called hera tho
nova relic
yes because there is not a hera boon in the game
so who is the white goddes?
maybe is demetra
errant narwhal
yes
nova relic
well never got her boon
errant narwhal
you need to reach the final boss once to see her
nova relic
ooooh
thx
does someone know a yt video that explains well the boon system?
still trying to understand how to get the right ones
to create builds
rn i like a doom build
but cant find any ares boon that makes my attack inflict doom
errant narwhal
just experiment with boons and see what works for you
there is one, it must be just bad luck to not get it
hot belfry
if you get a boon and you don't have an attack/special/cast/dash boon already there's a high chance you'll get a boon for that slot
if you dont have any attack boons and you get ares you should be able to get the doom attack most of the time
vital night
yeah
proper furnace
Yeah
proper furnace
If everything is empty the first boon will offer 3 of the 4 cores
(cores being the boons to your left of the UI, atk/special/cast/dash/call)
But call is different in that it doesn't get that priority
sweet blade
triple shot & point blank shot is absolutely disgusting on rama
vital night
That do be the meta
sweet blade
the damage was NUTS
vital night
wait till you get hunter dash too
nova relic
(cores being the boons to your left of the UI, atk/special/cast/dash/call)
ooooooooh
so thats what these things represent
i thought i could get 2 boons that inflict an effect on attack
was super hyped to try doom + the dyonisis effect
hangover
gusty bobcat
i got Zeus for the first boon while using stygius....... any advice?
eager flint
use god keepsakes to guarantee a boon
other than that, idk. Zeus is not the worst, if you're unlucky and don't get double edge
but it's pretty mediocre
good cast and ok-ish dash though
gusty bobcat
whoops took thunder dash lmao oh well
gusty bobcat
use god keepsakes to guarantee a boon
this is run 2 we aint got all that yet
eager flint
Ah, RIP
sick compass
Recommended builds for spear?
potent tree
Recommended builds for spear!
https://www.leereamsnyder.com/hades-build-guide#eternal-spear
sick compass
I'd rather have personal opinions than an article
So personal favorites for spear pls
viral geode
Like base spear aspect?
sick compass
Like base spear aspect?
Whiever one is best
viral geode
Lol what aspects have you unlocked though
All of them?
achilles normally regarded as the best if so, and it's very fun to play
proper furnace
So personal favorites for spear pls
The thing is the best build we'll prob share are already on the site lmao
The site is by someone who actually has experience
Also explains mechanics on how to build
nova relic
soo yesterday i discovered the keepsake method to get certain boons, but now i cant get the upgrades that i want
why?
lapis sandal
anyone have an interesting (non-timed) challenge idea?
Looking for a bit of variety in my next few runs as I work on the rank and blood upgrades.
Any particularly fun builds would be welcome as well
lapis sandal
soo yesterday i discovered the keepsake method to get certain boons, but now i c...
some boons prevent other boons from being collected, which are you after?
tired notch
anyone have an interesting (non-timed) challenge idea?
Looking for a bit of vari...
beyblade runs are always fun
nova relic
As in not getting the boon you want?
like im going for an ares build but it's been 3 runs that i cant find the upgrade that whenever i attack it marks with doom
or the hades call
lapis sandal
beyblade runs are always fun
like full send ares blades?
nova relic
or the cast
lapis sandal
sounds like a good time, maybe throw some artemis in there for more beyblade action
proper furnace
like im going for an ares build but it's been 3 runs that i cant find the upgrad...
Up to what point do you have your mirror
nova relic
or the hades call
same for athena, i still cant find the dash deflecting skill
tired notch
esp on eris or achilles
tired notch
sounds like a good time, maybe throw some artemis in there for more beyblade act...
yup yup!
nova relic
Up to what point do you have your mirror
i need 20 keys now
proper furnace
Ah yeah that's gonna hurt a bit
Cuz you don't see as many boons as you could
The most you can do if you want a specific core is filling the others
So if you want like ares attack/athena dash you can fill up special and cast
sick compass
If i do achilles, what boons should i take
nova relic
So if you want like ares attack/athena dash you can fill up special and cast
mm alr
thx
tired notch
If i do achilles, what boons should i take
zeus or arti attack
splash dash is always fun
nova relic
why you asking where i am w the mirror
proper furnace
But yeah once you get darkness, u lock the rest of the mirror
lapis sandal
same for athena, i still cant find the dash deflecting skill
athena dash should be easy to get, just pick keepsake and fill every other skill, with athena when possible
try to get three other gods early to limit the god pool
proper furnace
why you asking where i am w the mirror
Next set has dark foresight, which boosts how many gold laurel chambers you see (aka run only boosts = boons, coins, etc.)
lapis sandal
why you asking where i am w the mirror
one mirror skill can increase boon room chances
proper furnace
The last set of skills has fated persuasion, which lets you reroll boons
tired notch
if you get flurry jab it's really fun
proper furnace
The last set of skills has fated persuasion, which lets you reroll boons
(also expensive)
nova relic
(also expensive)
how much?
proper furnace
10k total
nova relic
i got my second death defiance
proper furnace
1k, 2k, 3k, 4k
proper furnace
Equip best weapon, ideally one that can add poseidon w/o issue
Get his darkness boosting boon and visit chaos for the same
Also should beat the game first
Cuz bosses drop big amounts of darkness after you claim their bounty
proper furnace
The last set of skills has fated persuasion, which lets you reroll boons
(if you unlock fated keys you can still get some persuasion rolls w/o upgrading the actual skill)
sick compass
Idk what im doing wrong but spear seems so underwhelming compared to any other weapon
Tried most builds that the site suggests but my damage seems nonexistent
livid barn
Idk what im doing wrong but spear seems so underwhelming compared to any other w...
What aspect?
sick compass
What aspect?
achilles
tight basin
Tried most builds that the site suggests but my damage seems nonexistent
what achilles build did you use
sick compass
i tried the artemis and zeus build
tight basin
hm dont remember that being one lmao
try hunting blades or lightning phalanx
ares-artemis duo and athena-zeus duo, respectively
game should play itself once you get those
tight basin
53 heat zag shield with the speedrun modpack
sick compass
hm dont remember that being one lmao
thats why i asked people for their own builds but they told me to follow the sites
sick compass
thanks for your answer though
sick compass
the site's good for a reason lmao
the site told me to use zeus and artemis build tho
tight basin
anything i would recommend would just be on the site bc the author is good lmao
lemme take a look, i haven't read it in ages
oh i see
artemis is less important here and is more like
support lmao
livid barn
53 heat zag shield with the speedrun modpack
Man I'm dead 💀
tight basin
the zeus build on achilles is more like, just grab every zeus boon you can lmao
it's not particularly strong and is kinda lightning phalanx at home lmao
tight basin
Man I'm dead 💀
why lmao
sick compass
try hunting blades or lightning phalanx
let me try this one
sick compass
if im going hunting blades, should i start off with ares or artemis?
tight basin
ares i guess so you can get early poms onto your cast
livid barn
i mean you dont have to go that high lmao
My max heat is pushed by the spear, always, it's the lead weapon for me
sick compass
okay gotchu thanks
livid barn
And I've finally beaten extreme measures 4 🔥
tight basin
well achilles is just good in general but guan yu is solid for heat
tight basin
150% atk/cast boost strong
yeah
it's easy to cycle it
raging rush -> 2x dash strikes -> repeat
tight basin
that might be why you dont get the achilles aspect lmao
livid barn
That's exactly why
tight basin
compared to achilles, hades spear is generally considered a lot worse lmao
livid barn
I mean, beating him like 17 times with his own weapon is hilarious
tight basin
true
livid barn
I like that it provides a somewhat long targeted damage boost
tight basin
i mean on achilles you'd essentially have the boost 100% of the time if you played it properly lmao
lilac dragon
compared to achilles, hades spear is generally considered a lot worse lmao
however, hades spear is pretty fun to spin attack spam with if you get lucky with quick + massive spin
livid barn
Like I just spin up between a wave and bam, those blasted fools are marked for death
tight basin
but since you dont use the special then you're basically not benefiting from it
livid barn
however, hades spear is pretty fun to spin attack spam with if you get lucky wi...
Quick spin my beloved
If I'd only get it more
tight basin
i should try quick spin guan yu sometime ive been meaning to try but am too lazy to learn it
lilac dragon
i also dont like using the special for the spear usually, but achilles spear's thing is so good that i gotta use it all the time
livid barn
But what is amazingly fun is the triple dash strike, massive spin and Artemis support arrows
lilac dragon
triple dash is fun, though the range decrease is smelly
tight basin
serrated stinky
lilac dragon
serrated + achilles spear is less of an issue if you use the raging rush to get out, but a lot harder to pull off than just dashing normally
lilac dragon
What's your opinion on Arthur's Stygian Sword?
its so much fun
the room clear is great
livid barn
its so much fun
The satisfaction from vanquishing someone with the last charged attack...
tight basin
What's your opinion on Arthur's Stygian Sword?
stinky because i dont like the slow swings for eh damage lmao
lilac dragon
crit + the ares kill buff is great
livid barn
stinky because i dont like the slow swings for eh damage lmao
It deals at least 700+ damage in the end
lilac dragon
stinky because i dont like the slow swings for eh damage lmao
pro tip, dashing in between keeps the combo
tight basin
It deals at least 700+ damage in the end
it's like 200 base damage
livid barn
it's like 200 base damage
Yeah
tight basin
pro tip, dashing in between keeps the combo
i know but it's still slow
lilac dragon
that's true
livid barn
pro tip, dashing in between keeps the combo
I did such nasty combos on Hades that bro forgot that I beat him 🔥
lilac dragon
just means u gotta be more careful
the +50 hp is great too
means i can take high confidence with no fear
tight basin
just means u gotta be more careful
nah i just dont play arthur lmao
tight basin
means i can take high confidence with no fear
my speedrunner ass is already always taking high confidence lmao
livid barn
I'm not gonna sugarcoat it.
Atck, Atck, Atck + 2 Dashes
lilac dragon
nah i just dont play arthur lmao
fair enough
lilac dragon
my speedrunner ass is already always taking high confidence lmao
yeaa that's understandable, i havent gotten to that level of expertise yet
tight basin
if i want big damage number, there's plenty of other aspects that do it a lot easier and much faster lmao
lilac dragon
really don't like FO2
livid barn
I hate the wave makers on Arthur's Aspect
lilac dragon
if i want big damage number, there's plenty of other aspects that do it a lot ea...
ehhh i dont think there's anything else that can reliably get 2k+ numbers
except maybe eris with 5-rocket
livid barn
What's your most hated god?
tight basin
arthur isn't reliably hitting 2k numbers
lilac dragon
arthur isn't reliably hitting 2k numbers
it is if you build it for that
livid barn
arthur isn't reliably hitting 2k numbers
It's just fun, it's not optimal, but fun
tight basin
it is if you build it for that
base 200 swing, you'd need 2000/3 damage before crit?
+250% or so atk buff isn't easy to come by lmao
aphrodite can get you to like 150 or so
that last 100 is gonna be from at least 2 chaos buffs
or battle rage from ares but that's not consistent technically
and neither are crits
livid barn
No way lmao, I got a Vsauce notification with a name Spin Blow
tight basin
rush delivery would work but again, you'd be relying on crit
livid barn
I'm going to [Quick Spin, Massive Spin]
lilac dragon
+250% or so atk buff isn't easy to come by lmao
it's really easy depending on what you get
tight basin
beowulf can get 2k+ damage pretty easily
tight basin
that still doesnt hit the reliability factor bc you're relying on crit
livid barn
My spear easily gets 1 damage
tight basin
and backstabs arent consistent either
livid barn
But that's only on a good build
lilac dragon
mb i meant seeing 2k pop up every now and then
tight basin
that's prob more accurate lmao
lilac dragon
i didnt think you'd get pedantic abt it lmao
tight basin
roughly 15% of the time if you're using artemis atk and have additive elsewhere
i mean reliable 2k damage is extremely hard to come by
like you said, clockets is one of the only "reliable" way to get it
beowulf is the only other aspect that can hit 2k somewhat reliably
lilac dragon
ive never really used beowulf, how is it?
tight basin
beowulf doesnt need crits
tight basin
ive never really used beowulf, how is it?
strongest aspect in the game lmao
best for speed, one of the best for heat
lilac dragon
i am very doubtful of that claim
tight basin
i mean be doubtful all you want, wont deny the 5:04 unmodded in game time record
modded it has a 4:30
tight basin
and has a 60 heat clear, falls off past that but kinda starts to suck at like 55ish
but before 50/55 its one of the best aspects for heat bc it has a lot of damage
and is a shield
tight basin
big boom good
tired notch
Feels amazing to use
tired notch
big boom good
Truer words have never been spoken
tight basin
there's also like over a thousand sub6 runs, and the vast majority of them are beowulf lmao
lilac dragon
i mean be doubtful all you want, wont deny the 5:04 unmodded in game time record
damn i see
ive mostly heard of eris rail speedruns tbh
tight basin
eris is the most popular from a casual/entry standpoint
it's a lot easier and straight forward
tired notch
ive mostly heard of eris rail speedruns tbh
Eris hasn’t been the top aspect for awhile, but yeah
It is easy to get into
tight basin
i mean it's still good
lilac dragon
eris is the most popular from a casual/entry standpoint
mmm that makes a lot of sense
tight basin
it's just that compared to beo it's kinda stinky lmao
tight basin
hestia and eris are about equal tbf
tired notch
And croven getting a top time with hera
tight basin
croven be crovening
tired notch
Because croven
lilac dragon
yeah im ngl as a casual player who's only spoken to other casual players, this is legit the first time ive heard anyone say good things abt beowulf lmao
tired notch
Really
Even as a casual player beo was my favorite
I used it to get my first 32 heat
tight basin
when i was a casual player i realized aphrodite on hera was good and then realized beo is basically hera but with more aoe and a shield lmao
tired notch
I started speedrunning with eris and then moved to beo
tired notch
when i was a casual player i realized aphrodite on hera was good and then realiz...
This lol
universal experience I guess
lilac dragon
I used it to get my first 32 heat
i think your definition of casual is different than mine lmao
tired notch
But yeah, Beowulf is very fun casually
tired notch
i think your definition of casual is different than mine lmao
I mean, maybe lol
32 heat is still like
A think you are encouraged to do
tight basin
imo every casual player can clear 32 heat if they wanted to
tired notch
In game
tired notch
imo every casual player can clear 32 heat if they wanted to
Mhm
Although you definitely don’t have to
lilac dragon
i think i maxed out at 24 before stopping
tight basin
i've burnt out from anyheat a while ago so i've been doing high heat for a bit lmao
when time allows at least
tired notch
super fair
tight basin
turns out heat is hard tho which is kinda stinky
tired notch
The sub6 grind was getting to me so I did my usual thing and left for a few months
tight basin
turns out i have to actually work for my wins instead of clearing on my first 1-2 tries
tired notch
Then hades 2 tech test was announced LMAO
tired notch
turns out i have to actually work for my wins instead of clearing on my first 1-...
Wild
tight basin
lmao it do be like that
tight basin
Wild
yeah 51 and 53 were basically first tries for me on zag shield, then i couldn't get 55 on my first try for some reason which doesn't make sense considering the trend clearly
tired notch
Of course
tight basin
game weird
tight basin
i mean it did take her less than an hour
lilac dragon
i think i maxed out at 24 before stopping
ah nvm just checked (havent played in over a year i think lol) and did 32 heat once and never bothered again
tired notch
i mean it did take her less than an hour
Pff
tight basin
took her like 25 mins to get the seed so it cant be that hard
tired notch
Yeah
tight basin
deeply funny tbh
tired notch
Mhm
lilac dragon
she's just built diff
tired notch
She deserved it after all the grinding she put in
tight basin
she did unmodded as a joke and then accidentally cleared lmao
lilac dragon
doing things as a joke gives you higher odds of managing it
scientifically proven
the bit will lead you
tired notch
Something something watched pot experiment
Theorem?
Who knows
Probably Wikipedia
tired notch
It has one citation and it’s to a retracted graduate thesis that was plagiarized from the student’s advisor
Don’t ask how it got accepted in the first place
tired notch
I’m making all of this up (I mean the theorem is “real”)
As real as moke theorems are
lilac dragon
I’m making all of this up (I mean the theorem is “real”)
oh lol
it's 3am for me, joke went over my head
tired notch
I do know someone who had a student who plagiarized their own work though
It did not get through lmao
lilac dragon
"hey these words look pretty familiar"
waxen dragon
Hunting blades or crystal clarity for cast build like Achilles?
lucid oar
Hunting blades is stronger but both are fun
jolly chasm
Meme beam funny but hunting blades is actually good, so which ever one you’re going for
errant narwhal
opened the game for the first time in like a week or more, i am greeted with an explosive shot rama run right at the hydra
awesom
errant narwhal
i won it with a lv 11 common aphrodite attack LOL
vital night
Nice epic aphro attack
errant narwhal
lmao it did so little damage comparatively
fading hearth
is Adamant Rail a good weapon to use?
vagrant crane
yes
fading hearth
i've seen the bow being pretty boring to use and too plain so i want somethings to spice it up, btw, is leech build of the starter sword good?
vagrant crane
what is a leech build
fading hearth
what is a leech build
the build i used (which failed at minataur) is
cursed ???: -60% max hp but heal 2hp per attack
+??% attack and your attack can deflect
special is wider and deal 20% more dmg
when taking dmg, deal ??? dmg and inflict weak
vagrant crane
no
cursed slash sucks
and you cant reliably get all that
but mainly cursed slash sucks
fading hearth
ik pretty much of it as not a reliable build, since it only take 1 step to die tragically
but that was a fun game
the way the sword perform combo looks way better than the bow despite being weaker
fading hearth
hmm, strange, i spam the special more than the m1
vagrant crane
get zeus attack
sweet blade
Do crit chances from multiple sources get rolled into one or checked separately from each other?
vagrant crane
additive
sweet blade
nice
sweet blade
does curse of longing stack with dire misfortune to essentially allow me to boost my doom damage over multiple procs?
last perch
yeah curse of longing kind of sucks
sweet blade
oof
last perch
doom works best on fast attacks which col has antisynergy with
sweet blade
I really like dire misfortune, it can push huge numbers with lucifer or chiron
proper furnace
yeah if you want to get some value of CoL you need your doom source to be applied as slow as possible
is just to supplement dmg
doom best dps is from Merciful End which also causes CoL to do nothing lol
sweet blade
I just like pelting hades with 3 chiron barrages and then seeing the doom pop for 700+ damage
lucid oar
It gets pretty funny with Rama and relentless volley
Not unreasonable to get the procs up to 2k
sweet blade
I DID clean house with EM4 hades with a dio rama build a few hours ago
didnt even lose a DD if I recall correctly
waxen dragon
if you re apply doom yourself you remove the CoL doom
Wait the duo auto applies doom? I thought I had to manually apply the doom after the weak
proper furnace
Wait the duo auto applies doom? I thought I had to manually apply the doom after...
you do, what I mean is that you hit an enemy with your own doom you'll reset it
so if you had 100 dmg doom, CoL procced twice and doom is at 25 dmg, if you hit them with your doom source doom will go back to 100 dmg
waxen dragon
It seems to halve everytime, so maybe reapplying doom boosts?
waxen dragon
so if you had 100 dmg doom, CoL procced twice and doom is at 25 dmg, if you hit ...
Kind of sounds like a nice Rama build though I am unsure how to apply it in practice. I normally just use Dionysus for Rama
proper furnace
tag enemy with special, hit them with aphro atk
then you get some extra dmg from CoL before shared suffering runs out
once it runs out you get to refresh doom dmg
waxen dragon
Doom is higher damage than Dionysus?
proper furnace
higher base dmg at least yeah
I still enjoy hangover more
cuz you also get call charge
waxen dragon
Ah ok. I would like to try Rama Dionysus with peer pressure, I think that's the one that spreads hangover to others and the other one that boosts damage when there's 3 hangover affected
Though also curious to explore curse of longing build
vital night
peer pressure isn't that great since special hangover is higher number
proper furnace
rama spreads hangover well on its own
thanks to the special ricocheting
also yeah peer pressure can mess up your special hangover stacks
plain river
Ah ok. I would like to try Rama Dionysus with peer pressure, I think that's the ...
spreading hangover via peer pressure is just going to override your regular special damage to worsen your dps
sick compass
What builds do you like for malphon?
velvet jasper
I like the special cutter/uppercut (I think that's the aspect of Demeter?? no clue) and any effect that stacks, since you have to land continuous hits with them. I usually try to go for Dionysus or Demeter boons on attack, then Ares/Zeus/Poseidon on special since it already hits harder with that aspect, and then whatever else I can get tbh lol
Then again my playstyle is kinda aggressive so the fists are my favorite :') I also try to get a good damage dash since you have to be fairly close to hit with the fists (like Ares or Dionysus, maybe even Aphrodite since her debuffs are rly good)
ok yea I just checked, it is aspect of Demeter
vagrant crane
do not do most of that
for attack you want zeus or dio, or ares if you go for merciful end
on special any % will be fine
other than poseidon
on dash you want either divine dash for merciful end or tidal dash for other builds
glacial sonnet
Doesn't poseidon special have great numbers though?
waxen dragon
Do all aspects scale for higher difficulty? Or only some?
proper furnace
Do all aspects scale for higher difficulty? Or only some?
For what sgg intended (32heat) yeah
The higher you go you'll notice a lot of stuff falling off
Not that you can't clear w/o it but it will be way more of a pain
vital night
Do all aspects scale for higher difficulty? Or only some?
Everything gets to 55. After that stuff like Arthur, Poseidon, etc gets rough
dawn hollow
i need a silly build
dawn hollow
Meme beam Achilles
i like
sick compass
Your favorite exagryph builds?
weak prawn
Your favorite exagryph builds?
lucifer super soaker (poseidon plus zeus) or dionysus+artemis
safe current
Should I just focus on using one to two weapons until I beat the game?
turbid needle
Should I just focus on using one to two weapons until I beat the game?
I highly recommend aegis (the shield)
safe current
And why is that?
turbid needle
And why is that?
the block mechanic can block like literally everything if used properly, and certain hammers allow the zagreus aspect to do a quite respectable amount of damage as well
mostly the block mechanic though
depends what your playstyle is ofc
safe current
From the 20 runs I've done so far, the bow and the gloves have been the most effective weapons
tight basin
focusing on a couple weapons until you beat the game is what most people do
work with what you're good at and expand later once you get better at the game
turbid needle
use whatever weapon you want then, I was just recommending shield because I had been trying with the rail for a large amount of attempts but won the first time after switching back to shield
vital night
the block mechanic can block like literally everything if used properly, and cer...
I wish it blocked everything 🙏
hot belfry
Should I just focus on using one to two weapons until I beat the game?
try not to pigeonhole yourself into one weapon but yes once you find something youre comfortable with it can be good to use that until clearing once and then you can work on learning the other weapons
turbid needle
I wish it blocked everything 🙏
oh yeah I forgot to mention specifically the greatshields always find a way to pierce the shield
worst enemy to ever be created, shouldve been scrapped in early access
ruined multiple of my sub 10 runs
vital night
try not to pigeonhole yourself into one weapon but yes once you find something y...
Pidgeonholing is completely fine imo. Every weapon (not aspect) has its upsides and downsides and shined in certain ways
So if some of those elements call to you, go wild
Like anatole has played 99% fists runs and he’s doing fine
turbid needle
Part of the fun of Hades is mastering an aspect you haven't really tried before
vital night
That’s not to say you’re not missing out if you only play one weapon: the beauty of this game is the variety
proper furnace
Part of the fun of Hades is mastering an aspect you haven't really tried before
Ehhhh
vital night
But don’t be afraid if you find the other weapons not worthwhile to play
safe current
try not to pigeonhole yourself into one weapon but yes once you find something y...
That's what I was asking. Thanks
waxen dragon
I struggle with close quarters builds like fist. I got through because of the cast
hot belfry
Pidgeonholing is completely fine imo. Every weapon (not aspect) has its upsides ...
i mean its fine to focus on one weapon
but dont decide 5 runs in that you only like one weapon and never try the other ones
which is what i did
vital night
Oh never sure
hot belfry
i unlocked spear and didnt use anything else for 30+ runs
vital night
Oof
hot belfry
and then i tried shield and cleared in like 2 tries
vital night
I mean 30 runs isn’t that long in my scale but fair enough
turbid needle
and then i tried shield and cleared in like 2 tries
that was my experience as well lol
glass fractal
worst enemy to ever be created, shouldve been scrapped in early access
Agreed
sweet blade
I just had the most disgusting demeter cast build, with 2 cast damage chaos boons too, absolutely shredded hades HP
waxen dragon
I just had the most disgusting demeter cast build, with 2 cast damage chaos boon...
Duo with Artemis and killing freeze?
I always found it hard to get Demeter chill secondaries
fleet fable
if i have a question about how to do something in the game, is this the right channel to ask it in? 🥲
fleet fable
ok cool
so i have 6 hearts with hermes (the heart lock is next), and online it says his favor is to talk to him with his keepsake "Lambent Plume" upgraded to 3 stars but ive talked to him multiple times while having his keepsake at 3 stars equipped and i havent gotten his 7th heart.
theres me with his keepsake equipped talking to him and he doesnt mention it and i dont get the heart
i have a tendency to be stupid so sorry if im missing something obvious lol
sick compass
I think just try multiple times, it doesnt give you the right dialogue always
I mightve gotten mine in like 3rd attempt or smth
fleet fable
I mightve gotten mine in like 3rd attempt or smth
okay ill just run with his keepsake until i get it
thanks ❤️
sick compass
Can anyone give me a good eris build? 
tight basin
zeus attack, artemis/aphrodite special, poseidon dash
look for rocket bomb and cluster bomb as hammers
one of the strongest builds in the game
sick compass
Ty
fleet fable
I think just try multiple times, it doesnt give you the right dialogue always
just got it lol
wooden jungle
I should def remember this at like 450 hours lol but do keys in charons shop also give rerolls?
Probably won't take it even if they do but just for future note 
vagrant crane
I should def remember this at like 450 hours lol but do keys in charons shop als...
no
crude dove
How would you best take advantage of talos special? I've had success by just playing talos like regular fists with ME but I'd like to try something different
proper furnace
Good question, you kinda don't
earnest helm
one of the strongest builds in the game
yoo the famous zap clockets eris
iconic for anyone that's played this game for a bit
hidden vigil
How is the % damage calculated on the rail is it that low that like dio or Zeus is better
Or even ares doom effect
waxen dragon
What are Clockets?
proper furnace
How is the % damage calculated on the rail is it that low that like dio or Zeus ...
Go zeus yeah
proper furnace
What are Clockets?
Cluster + rocket bomb
jolly chasm
Make enemy go boom
hidden vigil
Gotcha ty ^^
proper furnace
X5 special -30% dmg/missile turns into rocket
waxen dragon
I just managed to beat Hades with Eris on Zeus attack
proper furnace
Rocket for whatever reason deletes the dmg downside of cluster
waxen dragon
Ooh have to try clockets.
proper furnace
So you have base 400 dmg if all 5 hit
waxen dragon
Hard to get no? 2 hammers?
proper furnace
Yeah
jolly chasm
But worth
waxen dragon
Is it always best to pom static discharge over the lightning attack?
proper furnace
Pretty much
jolly chasm
Yeah most of the time
proper furnace
Or once you see the pom fall off go for dash
1 pom on atk ain't exactly bad but often there's better stuff
waxen dragon
Lightning dash?
proper furnace
Tidal dash
jolly chasm
Depends on other options
proper furnace
Shoals is good but def my last option to pom
proper furnace
I don't exactly know how razor shoal works.
Enemy moves/is moved > take dmg
waxen dragon
I tried dashing stuff to death but I was taking too long and the timer thing started to kill me
proper furnace
It does a lot but w/o dps meter is hard to notice
waxen dragon
Enemy moves/is moved > take dmg
Static discharge does the same no?
proper furnace
Discharge is on enemy atk
waxen dragon
Discharge is on enemy atk
Oh. What about hangover?
waxen dragon
It does a lot but w/o dps meter is hard to notice
Would tidal dash be worth on Achilles too?
proper furnace
Yup
Speedruns usually start with it
Cuz the AoE/dmg helps before taking flurry jab
And breaking wave makes styx a joke
waxen dragon
And breaking wave makes styx a joke
Oh I'll have to try breaking wave
I think I usually take the typhoon one.
proper furnace
Idk how good typhoon is tbh but it def feels weaker
Raw wall slam dmg is kinda (?)
dawn hollow
just had aspect of achilles, level 7 blade rift cast, hunting blades, black metal and englufing
it was very good
waxen dragon
just had aspect of achilles, level 7 blade rift cast, hunting blades, black meta...
Wait, hunting blades works on the Ares dash?
dawn hollow
Wait, hunting blades works on the Ares dash?
i didnt have ares dash
viral geode
Ares call, manual hunting blades
dawn hollow
i need a silly build
vital night
Arthur
proper furnace
Yo-yo talos
hidden vigil
What's the best special for chiron I've prob been using a bad one but I've been using arts
hidden vigil
Oh im not that high I'm heat my data got reset lol
hidden vigil
It's on console lol
vital night
Oh rip
hidden vigil
Which bow is the best to play with on higher heat? Hera?
vital night
Rama
hidden vigil
Ty for the info
vital night
Oh im not that high I'm heat my data got reset lol
And btw you don’t have to play every heat, you can just jump to 16 or 32 or whatever
No penalty
hidden vigil
I'm farming items from em
proper furnace
Arty is probably the best
Hangover unmodded I'd say
Unless you wanna add conc volley resets
vital night
I'm farming items from em
There’s no penalty to bounties but if you’re looking for easy runs fair enough
hot belfry
conditions?
dawn hollow
yeah
hot belfry
probably something like td2, fo1, em2, bp1, mm
then add one more level to one of td/fo/em
thats 16 i think
dawn hollow
what
proper furnace
Abbreviations in #h1-high-heat-strategies pins
hot belfry
start with ares keepsake and get his attack (ideally high rarity)
then get athena special
that unlocks merciful end, get that asap
get divine dash asap as well, merciful end requires athena on attack or special to get it but it triggers doom instantly off any deflect which includes the dash
then use attack and dash really fast to apply and trigger doom over and over
lots of damage
ideally get impending doom as well which makes doom come out slower but do way more damage
and the time it takes to come out doesnt matter bc theyre triggering instantly
use a weapon that has fast attacks like fists or sword (not arthur)
put all your poms into the attack bc special and dash and whatever else dont matter at all, maybe a couple on impending doom
agile oasis
i really liked that build on coronacht in chiron aspect
vagrant crane
🗿
viral geode
Zeus shield ME for funsies
dawn hollow
put all your poms into the attack bc special and dash and whatever else dont mat...
ok👍
nova relic
what are the best mirror upgrades?
proper furnace
what are the best mirror upgrades?
#h1-for-new-players pins
wooden jungle
I hate the rng in this game
had a sub 10 run until I had to go through 5 tunnels for the sack
didn't even bother with the final fight ugh
tight basin
It do be like that
proper furnace
Sack moment
wooden jungle
yeah
I set a goal to try and get a sub 10 run before ea but idk if it's even worth it
it's so frustrating
vagrant crane
u can do it
wooden jungle
my lowest is like 13 right now? having the timer display has really cut my times though
jolly chasm
What do you play on?
hidden vigil
Which gods attack boon is best for lucifer
proper furnace
same build as eris
zeus atk + jolted, tidal dash, big special
hidden vigil
Kk ty ty
waxen dragon
Ugh I can't seem to clear fast enough in tight deadline, theseus and minotaur taking me too long
steep grotto
other than zeus shield, which other aspect is good for zeus's special
?
I wish it worked with chiron
proper furnace
rama uses it
waxen dragon
Ugh I can't seem to clear fast enough in tight deadline, theseus and minotaur ta...
Woot cleared it with Rama and Dionysus, also with Talos using Zeus Poseidon and 6 cast lightning rod
forest zodiac
delicate hatch
anyone got funny zag spear builds
waxen dragon
anyone got funny zag spear builds
Poseidon special chain skewer with sea storm + static discharge + razor shoals?
wooden jungle
Stepped away for lunch and accidentally forgot I was playing hera bow and just didn't load my cast for basically all of Asphodel and Elysium oops. Only realized why the rooms were slow when I hit the cast button 
At least the next run will go better lol
still vortex
I feel like a shield em4 run. What build should i do
weak prawn
dionysus zeus - dio on call and trippy flare (plus legendary) with scintillating fog and smoldering air for faster gauge reloading?
proper furnace
if you wanna do trippy flare you could aim for mirage shot instead
abuse the double dmg bug along the double pom bug
vital night
Zeus on special with static discharge
hidden vigil
Does every arrow with chirons special proc zeus's special
hidden vigil
What's the best special to use with it if u don't mind me asking
proper furnace
hangover usually
if you wanna reset for concentrated volley you can do arty
or modded where you have guaranteed hammer
analog mauve
everyones a pos spec hater
still vortex
Aw, never got merciful end. 😭
still vortex
abuse the double dmg bug along the double pom bug
Is this with the hidden shield?
proper furnace
yeah
mirage doesn't reduce dmg of the 2nd cast on flares
and trippy beo gets double poms because
still vortex
Okay I’ll try that next time
glacial sonnet
Trippy beo goes with the regen cast stones right
tight basin
Yes
waxen dragon
How does critical chance get calculated with artemis attack and cast for Hera aspect?
proper furnace
How does critical chance get calculated with artemis attack and cast for Hera as...
Attac/cast do their own crit calculations
waxen dragon
Attac/cast do their own crit calculations
Ah ok I was thinking it stacked. I noticed the aoe from crush shot doesn't hit when I aim Hera past the enemy, I hit them with attack but the flare blows up behind them
proper furnace
Did you have blown kiss too
stoic gust
is zeus cast that good for cast run ? like with poseidon sword
atomic forge
if im using exagryph does swift strike also speed up the reload?
proper furnace
if im using exagryph does swift strike also speed up the reload?
No
plain river
Go for Athena's cast + the zeus duo
proper furnace
Oops
waxen dragon
Did you have blown kiss too
No I don't think I've ever tried that boon
glass fractal
<:thanthink:669246004142538753>
Honesty from the times I’ve tried it it’s pretty good
waxen dragon
Honesty from the times I’ve tried it it’s pretty good
Lightning phalanx is one of my favourite cast duos
glass fractal
Same
glass fractal
What are some good gauntlet builds with the the non || hidden aspects ||
winged charm
Is lighting rod worth it if I’m constantly picking up my casts?
Should I just be leaving my casts
proper furnace
Is lighting rod worth it if I’m constantly picking up my casts?
If you aren't doing a cast build just stick one for boiling blood on big enemies and throw 2 the other at a wall for free dmg
If you are doing a cast build then don't take it
Rod reduces pick up range
winged charm
Ah okay
winged charm
If you aren't doing a cast build just stick one for boiling blood on big enemies...
It’s cause usually the most likely duo I’ll get since I use hunters dash and lighting strike
So I might just sell it each time I get it
proper furnace
No yeah rod is just really free dmg
And it gets better the more zeus boons you get
winged charm
but I’m often just picking up my cast so I feel like I don’t use it
winged charm
If you aren't doing a cast build just stick one for boiling blood on big enemies...
I’m going to try what your saying tho
proper furnace
You usually run achilles spear?
winged charm
Ya
winged charm
Achilles spear is so fast fr
winged charm
150% cast dmg is just really good
Grinding that Titan blood
It’s epic rn at 100%
*shot
It’s really great with slicing shot cause you can keep spaming the throw and reach like 40-60 dps depending on lvl and rarity
winged charm
It’s really great with slicing shot cause you can keep spaming the throw and rea...
Then do 60 X 3 dos
*dos
*dps
Like 180 dmg per second
Crazy with the Artemis pressure points too
proper furnace
Huh, does hunter's dash open hunting blades
Oh it does
Then why doesn't it open mirage
analog mauve
winged charm
The seeking blade cast duo is super great too
Tho it’s annoying when it runs into a wall for some reason trying to track the other foe
analog mauve
hunting bladder
nova relic
best aspect for blade?
proper furnace
Nemesis
proper furnace
Difficulty modifiers
You know how beating a boss for the first time with a weapon gives you blood/diamond/ambrosia
nova relic
easiest one?
proper furnace
Then doing it again gives darkness
nova relic
You know how beating a boss for the first time with a weapon gives you blood/dia...
yeah
got the armored one
proper furnace
Put enough modifiers to fill the gauge and you can get them again
nova relic
armored enemies have a perk