h1-builds-and-combat

[pure glacier]

So Zeus for attack, and Poseidon special/dash?

Pom jolt?

i’m sorry it’s been awhile

Ah. Got it

[vale imp]

The status effect boon for zeus

[pure glacier]

Maybe weak for special?

[vale imp]

Any high % special works well

Especially on lucifer

[pure glacier]

Hmm. Okay. Thank you!

so just ignore cast for this build?

k

Does abyssal soul have any use?

[vale imp]

No

The +50% damage is just huge

[pure glacier]

Yeah. I try to use cast in most of my builds

[vale imp]

Is it? Isn’t it stygian soul

Abyssal soul is the damage reduction

Yeah that makes more sense

Since it’s boiling blood lmao

[pure glacier]

Movement speed reduction doesn’t do much in this game i assume

Makes sense

[vale imp]

Death is the best crowd control

[pure glacier]

And greater reflex is just a given right? Does ruthless reflex have any use?

[vale imp]

On gilgamesh

[pure glacier]

Oh right.

I need to try that some time

Thanks guys!

[lucid oar]

It’s usable on shield since you don’t need as much mobility

But greater reflex is just better

[pure glacier]

Idk what castspect is

Got it. Thanks again

[tight basin]

Or finishing break points or opening duos

Or flood shot for styx

Gun reload lol

Or they're just far

Kinda is

[pure glacier]

I got a hammer before any thing else lol

[tight basin]

I mean if it's 1 enemy left just cast and done

[pure glacier]

Luci?

The beam

[tight basin]

Also I looked at zyru 40 hesty vod

[pure glacier]

That’s an option, so I’ll get it

[tight basin]

Zyru used the cast to finish break points

[pure glacier]

Yeah I’m running 2 heat lol

I’ve never played railgun

[tight basin]

For special?

Pref arty or aphro

[pure glacier]

I still get zeus for attack right?

[tight basin]

Otherwise, any epic % damage

[tight basin]

Always

[pure glacier]

K.

Um

I got zeus with no attack boon

[tight basin]

Based

Can you reroll

[pure glacier]

no

[tight basin]

Ah rip

What are the options

[pure glacier]

Special cast dash

Man. But i got the triple bomb

[tight basin]

Yeah

I'd keep running it

I don't think it does

Idk but it is worth a shot

[pure glacier]

Oh. I also have like 50 health. I think i picked the wrong health thing in mirror

[tight basin]

For modded it just changes the rarity lmao

Like if there's 1 epic out of the 4 it'll rotate around

Kinda funny

[pure glacier]

I reset my mirror. Is olympian favor better over dark foresight?

[tight basin]

No

[pure glacier]

K

[burnt anchor]

build for aspect of hera?

hammer etc

[plain river]

Flurry shot and twin shot hammer wise

Crush shot is good because of it’s damage

And hera solves crush shots range problem

[burnt anchor]

so just go crush shot + flurry

also do you know how to force certain boons with speedrun mod?

[tight basin]

Can't do that

It just starts you off with 4 options and that's it

[burnt anchor]

ok

[tight basin]

Flurry can be hard to use

[burnt anchor]

what does it do

[tight basin]

Flurry?

[burnt anchor]

ye

[tight basin]

No power shot, hold down to fire arrows

[burnt anchor]

sounds bad

[tight basin]

It's difficult to use with Hera because you end up launching your cast to somewhere random

[tight basin]

It's the best hammer for hera

Just hard to use

[burnt anchor]

alr

i play on controller

[tight basin]

Still just as difficult I believe

[plain river]

It’s not bad

[rose nexus]

Flurry hera on controller ain’t too bad

Good dps during cast lodges too

[drowsy whale]

Ello! I’m trying to grind all my weapons to 8 heat, any suggestions for the shield?

[plain river]

which shield are you using

which aspect*

[tight basin]

Don't touch any of their specials unless you're using Zeus shield

True

[drowsy whale]

Ok

What cast should I use for Beo

I’m using Beo

[plain river]

flood flare

[drowsy whale]

Everyone talks about how good Zeus is but it seems bad

Ok thanks

I guess like Wave Pounding and stuff too

[tight basin]

It's sorta difficult to use tbh

[tight basin]

No, Artemis attack and then mirage shot

[plain river]

It isn't bad it just has a learning curve

[tight basin]

Mirage shot bug

[drowsy whale]

Oooh that makes sense

[tight basin]

Mirage shot bug makes it a 100% damage boost instead of a 30% lol

[plain river]

mirage shot is essentially double cast damage on beowulf

it's base damage

so yes

[drowsy whale]

Pog thanks a lot

[plain river]

it is a second cast dealing 30% of the base damage

on beowulf it's just bugged to be a second cast dealing 100% base damage

probably

but if the mirage shot were to crit and you had clean kill then I think it'd do 1 damage

idk

I just know that sometimes when I crit it does 1 more damage then it should be so I assume it has to do with not having a round percentage of additive

[trail compass]

does the support fire gets proc'd by mirrage shot?

mirage*

nvm it does

i just made a accidental cast build

mirage shot + snow burst with true shot

[tight basin]

if you get rid of true shot, you basically got the ideal build for passion flare beowulf

or actually just beo in general

hera too i suppose

[sonic ridge]

Thunder Dash (Your Dash causes a lightning bolt to strike nearby foes.)
plus Double Strike (Your lightning bolt effects have a chance to strike twice.)
plus Static Discharge (Your lightning effects also make foes Jolted = Victim's next attack self-inflicts lightning damage that harms itself and nearby foes. Next time enemy attacks or 10 seconds.)
plus Splitting Bolt (All your lightning effects create an additional burst. Lightning Damage: 40)

so what happens when I dash through an enemy, help me understand the math

I dash, double strike activates and hits an enemy with 2 lightnings
since ALL my lightning effects create splitting bolts, the enemy should get 2 additional hits?
now how many times would the enemy be jolted, and how many extra strikes would they get from it?

[rose nexus]

Jolted doesn’t stack

So unless they attacked in between the strikes

Also not sure if jolted proc also fires splitting bolt

[plain river]

I think one procs the other

I’m like 50:50 on whether both proc each other

[tight basin]

2 splitting bolt hits, 1 jolted

1 jolted assuming the enemy attacks afterwards

and yeah no clue if jolted procs splitting bolt, but at minimum you get 2 splitting bolt hits and 1 jolted affect

[pure glacier]

Heya again. I really love the fists, but I’ve never really used Gilgamesh, what’s a good build for them?

[rose nexus]

Merciful end

Or Zeus attack aphro special Zeus call smouldering air

[proper furnace]

gilga aint that good with zeus from what i remember

you can always just dash only with it too

slap tidal dash on it, poms + breaking wave and done

also use ruthless reflex on gilga

[final steeple]

Need a build with nemesis

[proper furnace]

can go for crit nem (arte atk, hunter dash/passion, use aphro special or athena) go for merciful end (doom atk, athena special and dash and duo boon)

double edge is your best hammer by far

can also just start tidal dash and grab a decent atk along the way

for crit nem you also want chaos atk/dash strike boons, can swap arte atk for aphro if you want more consistent dmg

[final steeple]

K thanks

[rose nexus]

Smolder this ratio

[pure glacier]

Ooh, tidal dash is my favorite. I’ll be sure to try that. Thanks!

[proper furnace]

if you can, taking a zeus core + other pos core boon to unlock sea storm can be fun

[pure glacier]

I really want to use ares dash, any good builds for that?

[tight basin]

probably zap or drunk fists

ares dash kinda sucks in general, and it'd only be useful if you're dashing past an enemy, so either sword or fists

it's prob the worst dash in the game tbh

[bright turret]

idk very much about what's good in this game lol, is a hangover build with aspect of chiron strong?

[plain river]

Yes

put drunken flourish on the special and heartbreak strike on attack

pom the heck out of drunken flourihs

[bright turret]

that's the exact build i just found, hopefully it can get me my first heat 1 win

it totally got me a win

[rose nexus]

Gj

Heat 1 is functionally no harder than heat 0 unless you pick something funky for your pact

You’re just still figuring out how to build most likely and might need to finish leveling your mirror

[bright turret]

yeah, working on the mirror

and figuring out what builds are decent slowly

i think i picked the one that makes 20% more enemies spawn?

[rose nexus]

Bad

[bright turret]

oh

[rose nexus]

For speed anyway

And potentially for success if you end up losing a lot of health to the extra monsters

[bright turret]

not too concerned about how fast i'm going yet, i'm still generally at 7 minutes an area in general

ok, what's a good first one for when i'm going through with other weapons

[rose nexus]

Tight deadline 1 is easy first heat point then

[bright turret]

good point

[rose nexus]

Middle management is also good easy early heat

Doesn’t really make the mini bosses much harder, and some are actually easier/quicker

[bright turret]

oh yeah, wasn't sure about that one. is extreme measures worth it or is the upgraded fury fight not worth it

[rose nexus]

It’s free… eventually

Once you learn how to build

It can be rough early

[bright turret]

right

i won't start going for that one quite yet then

[rose nexus]

Like how rough meg was when you first started

[bright turret]

it usually takes me till halfway through asphodel to have something half decent

and then that often dies to theseus again

[bright turret]

oh god

[rose nexus]

Theseus is annoying

In every sense

Just gotta learn when he’s vulnerable and how to dodge his stuff

[bright turret]

yeah, he just blocks hits... i do like the fact that the armour piercing daedulus hammer also allows piercing through his shield

[rose nexus]

Yeah

After he throws his spear he turns around though

[bright turret]

for now while i'm not used to him i pick that one up every time i see it

[bright turret]

yeah, noticed that literally this run

[rose nexus]

Sometimes with some builds it’s better to stay at distance til he throws, dodge it and then smack him in the ass

Up close he will block easily and then when he does his melee attacks they are kinda quick and easy to get hit by

[bright turret]

i feel like that would work pretty well with chiron

[rose nexus]

Chiron special can sometimes hit him even from the front because they .. orbit him sorts

If you’re not facing him head on anyway

[bright turret]

yeah, that's always a bit funny

time to get my persephone dialogue

ok, is there a good build to go for with the sword? i'm going to make my way trhough trying to at least beat heat 0 with every weapon

[rose nexus]

Merciful end

[bright turret]

is that the duo boon?

[plain river]

There isa good build to go with everything

Yes you put doom on attack athena on special search for Merciful End and Divine Dash

[bright turret]

well yeah, something that's not going to be super hard to make work tho would be nice

doom on attack, athena on special. got it, thx

[plain river]

you want divine dash so you can just dash strike and drop doom

Grab impending doom as well

Put all your poms on your doom and impending doom

[bright turret]

so stack doom damage as much as possible then trigger it as rapidly as i can?

[rose nexus]

And for sword you want to special then dash strike twice

That’s your combo

[plain river]

You can’t stack doom

oh wait do you mean building up the damage

yeah putting more and more poms on the base doom and impending

[bright turret]

ok, thanks

i will do a few runs and hopefully will find this build reasonably quickly

[plain river]

I mean

As long as you’re forcing gods in via keepsakes it should be pretty fine…

Aside from finding Merciful End

[bright turret]

oh right, i need to get some of those keepsakes XD

yeah

i just haven't been gifting the gods

[plain river]

You should be

[bright turret]

i'll start

i've got like 6 nectar, there's no reason for me not too lmao

[plain river]

God keepsakes are particularly useful because you’ll be forcing them in tartarus and asphodel so you can get your build going

[bright turret]

that's actually a really good plan

i've been using pierced butterfly and getting that as high as i can

[rose nexus]

[plain river]

then charon hourglass or a defensive keepsake in elysium and a defensive keepsake in elysium

Butterfly… is not good

[rose nexus]

I blame steam for people using butterfly

[bright turret]

it gave me an achievement and some bonus damage

[plain river]

It’s not enough bonus damage

And it goes away if you switch keepsakes

[bright turret]

ok yeah there's loads of people i still need to gift

[plain river]

Generally speaking it looks like this

[bright turret]

i haven't gifted charon or hypnos wtf lmao

yeah i really need to give people nectar

[rose nexus]

Can trade gems for keys for nectar too

[plain river]

Tartarus: most important god(dess) to force in for your build
Asphodel: second most important god(dess)
Elysium: Hourglass or defensive keepsake
Styx: defensive keepsake

[rose nexus]

So no reason to ever be out of nectar

[bright turret]

i've been doing this a lot

[rose nexus]

But you don’t have any keepsakes

[bright turret]

well i'll go for some god keepsakes then

i've been giving meg a lot of nectar

[rose nexus]

Are you trading your nectars for diamond or something

Icic

[bright turret]

also, what aspect for the sword? i have 1 level of nemesis unlocked rn

[rose nexus]

Nem stronk

[plain river]

Nemesis generally strongest sword aspect

If you see double edge take it

[bright turret]

i now have 2 levels of nemesis from my extra titan blood from killing hades

so double edge, athena on special, ares on attack

impending doom too

[plain river]

Force in ares

In tart

[rose nexus]

Nem can also run aphro attack or Artemis attack since it gets fat crits but ME very safe

[plain river]

Nem can also lean hard into critting yeah

like aphrodite strike artemis special hunter dash
Or artemis strike athena special passion dash/hunter dash

[bright turret]

right, if i start seeing lots of artemis i'll go for that instead. thanks, hopefully i can get something good going

[plain river]

I mean merciful end can use artemis as well

If you find her cast

Then you can hope for deadly reversal

the cast will be irrelevant it would really just be for the duo

[bright turret]

Ok, I’ll see if I can find that

[bright turret]

So i'm finally actually doing a run

I have 2 levels in nemesis on the sword and my first upgrade is a hammer. my choices are cruel thrust, breaching slash, and shadow slash. what's going to work well here?

[plain river]

breaching slash

Neither cruel thrust nor shadow slash will affect your dash strikes

[bright turret]

shadow slash says it's 200% from behind, is it not worth it?

[plain river]

Well

It doesn’t apply to dash strikes
Which is 90% of sword gameplay

[bright turret]

ah

that's annoying

thanks

i have artemis and athena showing up so far

and gotten special deflecting

[vale imp]

I mean it could potentially apply to dash strikes

[tight basin]

no dstrikes and attacks are different things

even if you hit from behind with a dstrike you wont get a 200% damage bonus

[bright turret]

i also says that breaching strike specifically appies to attacks

not dash strikes

[vale imp]

Huh TIL

[plain river]

It’s a hammer specific thing

I know it because I learned it

[bright turret]

weird

[plain river]

Shadow slash does not apply to dash strikes
Breaching does
I don’t know why

[bright turret]

that's very strange

also just found hermes with his 3 extra dash charges boon

[vale imp]

The distinction between Attack and DStrike is honestly seems very arbitrary

[bright turret]

and still haven't seen ares since i started looking for him

[plain river]

Well

Most of the time anything applying to a regular strike applies to a dash strike

There are just specific cases where that isn’t true

[bright turret]

so my new options are shadow slash again, hoarding slash, and double edge. I currently have over 800 coins saved up, does that make a difference or should I just go with double edge

[rose nexus]

Dedge

Hoarding slash doesn’t work on dash strikes

Also you probably should have been spending that money lol

[bright turret]

probably... but at this point if i keep hoarding i can buy titan blood or a diamond

so it's too late to go back now

[plain river]

It does

[plain river]

Double edge

[rose nexus]

Tf last time I heard anything about that it was that it doesn’t

[plain river]

Hoarding slash does apply to dash strikes

[rose nexus]

Which is why people like it for Arthur

SMH

[bright turret]

ok, so i should still have taken double edge anyway

[plain river]

Yes

[bright turret]

that's good

[rose nexus]

Dedge is the very best sword hammer

[plain river]

hoarding slash is a negligble amount of extra damage(doesn’t get multiplied by additive or by crits) in the first place, and dedge is the best sword hammer

[bright turret]

at this point i've been holding out for ares and I've already found asterius in elysium

my build has nothing at this point lmao

[plain river]

What are you doing?

[rose nexus]

[plain river]

Did you force ares with god keepsakes?

Are your 4 gods for god pool full?

[bright turret]

haven't found him to get his keepsake yet

[rose nexus]

[bright turret]

and probably by now

yep, dionysus, zeus, aphrodite, and athena are the 4 gods i've got boons from

too late now

on the bright side I have 279 max health

so that's fun

oh and i haven't even been offered a call

[bright turret]

ok you were very right about forcing gods with keepsakes, just did it with dionysus to force a hangover build with chiron and it makes this way easier...

[tight basin]

who would've thunk

[bright turret]

i really didn't know it was that important lmao

[plain river]

[slow relic]

how do you play Rama?

[plain river]

Spread shared suffering then dash strike

[true salmon]

||Aegis form of chaos.|| Won for consistently runs once I got used to it. Literally every boon works with it. It was so good I changed cause it got boring, and repetitive every time I won. Even with progressing heat.

[tight basin]

chaos shield sure is a top 24 aspect

[plain river]

Mhm

[true salmon]

Yeah bow and shield are my go to

[bright turret]

what duo is good for a hangover build with aspect of chiron?

[tender latch]

Both low tolerance and curse of nausea help

[strange lark]

curse of nausea (ares dio)
low tolerance (aphro dio)

[tender latch]

Aphro is higher hangover stacks on weak targets, Ares makes the hangover tick faster

If you get concentrated volley as a hammer though Artemis is much better on special

With heart rend and aphrodite attack

[bright turret]

so i should go for ares and aphrodite? i've already had to take athena so that'll be my 4

ok, force in aphrodite and take ares if he shows up

i really need to end up gifting posidon and demeter at somepoint, but they're just not useful enough atm

i'm being forced into artemis, i'll just force aphro in asphodel

not yet

chaos boon that gives me 79% on my special... but i can't attack or i get hit

and i'm about to go into the fury fight

damage

big numbers

yeah guess so

i'll go for boon rarity upgrade instead

[plain river]

Aphrodite > ares because it’s a difference of potentially 60% increase of hangover damage to 37.5% from CoN

For a chiron dio build anyways

you’d ideally force dio for drunken flourish, force aphrodite in for heart break strike and natural ares into curse of vengeance but you take what you can get

And pom the heck out of the hangover

[bright turret]

that's what i've done except i missed natural ares

seriously i got parting shot again

[plain river]

Lmao

[bright turret]

but also empty inside which seems like great syenrgy with aphrodite+dionysis duo

[plain river]

getting athena on a hangover build kinda just gets in your way of finding the duos you want

[bright turret]

it really does

[plain river]

opening dio+athena and parting shot is a rip

Calculated risk

[bright turret]

well i'm taking parting shot to stop it from being offered next time

and going for another aphrodite boon

so i got offered the duo boon i've been looking for, aphrodite's legendary boon, and a replacement all at the same time

oh and i just got calculated risk wtf

andddddd aphrodite's leegendary again

[plain river]

What are you on

/wdym

[bright turret]

3 duo boons and one legendary this run

[turbid needle]

could demeter aspect be a good ME?

ares on attack and athena on special

[plain river]

ye

It’s the best fist for it

[pure glacier]

So, somebody told me to use merciful end for gilgamesh. I assume ares special and athena attack?

[thorn tendon]

other way around

[pure glacier]

Really?

[plain river]

Opposite way around
You want ares on attack so you can grab divine dash and just dash through dropping a ton of doom

[pure glacier]

So ares attack, athena special and dash?

[plain river]

Yes

If you see impending doom grab it too

[pure glacier]

what does that do

[plain river]

Makes it take longer to drop but deals more damage

[pure glacier]

Ahh

Cool

[plain river]

so it’s really just free extra damage

[pure glacier]

Does ares stack?

[plain river]

No

[pure glacier]

K

[plain river]

doom doesn’t stack

you’re dropping it instantly anyways thanks to divine dash

[pure glacier]

i don’t think i understand how this works

so if you hit them with doom, and then hit them with athena dash, it will active it?

OHHH

im dumb nvm

Thanks guys!

[plain river]

Yes

You can build really any melee weapon like this

And it’ll put in work

[pure glacier]

OH GOODNESS

I just killed meg in like, 10 seconds

[plain river]

Spreadfire zag rail counts as a melee weapon

[rose nexus]

You can build hera and Beowulf like that too

But you maybe shouldn’t

[plain river]

Which weapon?

[viral eagle]

Oh

[plain river]

/aspect

[viral eagle]

Chaos

[plain river]

Bruh

[viral eagle]

I just think ot looks cool

[plain river]

Chaos when literally every other shield aspect exists

Ah

True

Aesthetics never take the back seat

[viral eagle]

Zag malphon look awsome

But that's not what I'm here for

Crush shot,pass dash,or HB flourish

[plain river]

Where are you and what’s the rest of your build looking like

[rose nexus]

Chaos shield wants dio or Zeus special I think

or just ignore your special entirely

[tight basin]

was just gonna say the same lol

[viral eagle]

Oh sorry my discord lagged

I'm in tartarus

[plain river]

First boon?

[viral eagle]

Yeah

[tight basin]

this is pretty unfortunate start ngl lmao

i'd switch to like hera and take crush shot, or chiron with dio keepsake and take flourish

or hestia pos keepsake, splash dash

[viral eagle]

Well I took flourish

[tight basin]

that works too

[viral eagle]

Aaaaaaaand just got my first daedalus hammer

[tight basin]

cshot gaming?

[rose nexus]

If you get charged shot literally just ignore your special

[viral eagle]

Pulizering blow,dreadflight,ferocious giard

[rose nexus]

Chaos is not a good aspect

[viral eagle]

But it looks the coolest

[plain river]

Chaos is a slight improvement over aspectless

[rose nexus]

Pulv can be helpful

[tight basin]

i'd take fero guard

pulv blow makes the shield go down slower for bull rushes

[plain river]

Rd

[tight basin]

and that

[rose nexus]

Dread flight is bad because the longer your special is out the longer you can’t block

[tight basin]

also fero guard just gives you more damage for a bit

wait it's 10 sec

that's busted

20% damage and movement for 10 sec is amazing

[viral eagle]

Ok

[tight basin]

no clue if it's global or not, but sounds like it

[pure glacier]

What is considered to be the best build?

[bright turret]

What's the best aspect for malaphon? i have zagreus atm

[solar dawn]

Demeter

[bright turret]

ok, what's some boons i should go for with demeter?

[bright turret]

I have master of arms completed, which aspect should I unlock? just finished with chiron because it's my favourite

[cunning urchin]

Is Chiron Lv.5 now?

Personally, I would max out Hera or Eris, and then just speedrun Heat to get the investment back, then do the same with the other one.

Then the same with Achilles, Poseidon or Nemesis, Demeter Aspect, and shield just whatever I feel like that's not Chaos Aspect.

Eris probably the easiest to play and win with, and quickly too.

[bright turret]

Maxed out Chiron because it’s my favourite atm

So max out Hera and eris, make it all back fast, do it again

And keep maxing aspects till hidden ones start showing up?

[valid dagger]

Yea ig

Not all hidden ones are that amazing

Like I’d take Nemesis over Arthur

[bright turret]

Yeah, nemesis just seems really good anyway

[acoustic vale]

Arthur better.

[bright turret]

Don’t like sword a whole lot so it’s not that big an issue for me

Also, what would be the best lategame bow aspect? I maxed out Chiron and beat heat 4 with it easily before even having it maxed

[valid dagger]

Rama for heat Hera for speed

[bright turret]

Is Rama the hidden one

[valid dagger]

Rama is good for speed too but it’s rough

Yes

All bows are overall pretty strong but those are best at the extremes I would say

[bright turret]

I’ll invest into other ones to try and get hidden aspects available first, but I’ll go back for Hera once I have 5 in each weapon

[valid dagger]

Hera is pretty good, it’ll only really start to drop in heat around ~45 so it’s fine

[bright turret]

Because I currently have 15 invested into the bow lmao

[bright turret]

I think it’ll be a while till I’m doing heat 45

[valid dagger]

Most people don’t get there tbf

[bright turret]

I’ll probably lose interest before then

[cunning urchin]

Excalibur is better for just winning runs, Nemesis is faster.

[white heart]

Which cast is best for Aspect of Beowulf?

[cunning urchin]

Flood Shot for speed, Passion Flare for heat.

But both work very well for either.

Flood Shot build is Flood Shot > Deadly Strike > Mirage Shot.

[white heart]

why's Passion Flare better for heat?

[cunning urchin]

More consistent build and applies Weak.

That's for very high heats, though. Like somewhere 40+.

Passion Flare build is Passion Flare > Snow Burst or Frost Strike.

For Passion Flare build, you'd want Privileged Status.

Family Favorite though for Flood Shot build.

[plain river]

Frost flare

[bright turret]

what's a good build to go with a hera run?

[proper furnace]

crush shot, poms and grab chaos casts/cast dmg

flurry shot best hammer, snow burst great and any % atk (except wet uncle) can work

[tight basin]

flurry shot is a bit rough to use at first, takes a while to get used to

[bright turret]

so get as much cast damage stacked as possible?

[proper furnace]

basically

the burst dmg from hera allows great dmg from them

[bright turret]

makes sense

[proper furnace]

crush shot is used due to high dmg + no downside thanks to hera

[bright turret]

makes sense

[proper furnace]

from hermes you either want quick reload or hyper sprint + rush delivery

also dont forget to check charon wells for stones/braids

they are cheap and greatly increase your dmg

[bright turret]

i've got aphrodite in this run already so i'll go for her cast

also i find greatest reflex from hermes often just gives me a free win, extra dashes are just so good

[proper furnace]

dashes are good yeah

turns out more iframes and mobility = good

[bright turret]

how weird

[tight basin]

@lyric bane rama wants any sort of high % on the atk, either an epic % bonus from any god that isn't poseidon, or any rarity from aphrodite
on the special, preferably thunder flourish

[bright turret]

so far hera is my slowest run ever, over 10 minutes to get out of tartarus

[proper furnace]

just in case, what mirror skill you have for casts rn?

+2 casts or regen

[bright turret]

+2

[proper furnace]

ah good

[bright turret]

i changed immediately before going for this run

[tight basin]

are you like, taking a long time between decision

[lyric bane]

what else is needed?

[tight basin]

whiffing all your casts or have like cp2 js3 on lol

[tight basin]

artemis dash for more damage

[bright turret]

i'm not playing especially slowly, not going too fast tho

[tight basin]

anything else is a bonus at that point

[proper furnace]

just add any atk/dash strike from chaos

[bright turret]

i have MM and FO i think

[proper furnace]

if you go zeus flourish route doesnt hurt to go for jolted

or grab zeus call + smair for dps or athena call smair for free powershots

also you are dash striking right

[lyric bane]

...and in term of attack you tries to do as much attack as possible or try charge them a bit?

[tight basin]

try to always go for power shots

partly why twin is considered more consistent than triple; twin allows more distance so you're less likely to get interrupted during the attack

some enemies you wont need to do a full power shot to kill, like numbskulls or witches, but for the more beefier enemies power shot those

[proper furnace]

min charge shots are for when you end up taking explosive shot for whatever reason (or if enemy is about to atk so just release early to avoid dmg)

[proper furnace]

depending on your special you can just special to death the small enemies

[tight basin]

true

[bright turret]

that gorgon mid boss is quite something with middle management on

[proper furnace]

power couple moment

[bright turret]

i still like chiron more for now, maybe once i've seen how good hera can be I'll like it more

[tight basin]

go to speedrun.com lol

croven has a 4:46 modded hera run, i keep forgetting to watch it but i've heard it's extremely clearn

[bright turret]

wtf

[tight basin]

lmfao

speedrunners do be like that

[bright turret]

how do you even do this in that little time, that doesn't even seem possible lmao

[tight basin]

nyoom

a lot of free rooms, damage, and rng

[lyric bane]

ahg, rama is just so slow

I might need to try beowulf just to beat EX4

[tight basin]

are you dash striking

[lyric bane]

emmm....yeah? thought I am not sure what does it mean

does doing so have a faster charge?

[tight basin]

dash and then charge the bow immediately

yes

by 33%

[lyric bane]

hmmmm

[tight basin]

so it's a considerable amount

does less damage, but the faster charge is more important

[lyric bane]

yeah....

[tight basin]

yeah rama is still slow, but it helps a lot

[bright turret]

ok yeah this run in incredibly clean

[tight basin]

oh do you wanna know the best part of that run

[bright turret]

what

[tight basin]

it was done in less than 12 hours after a new wr was made lol

[bright turret]

XD

[tight basin]

croven got beat by bigp, then croven beat him

and they're all 1 sec from each other

lmfao true

[bright turret]

that's ridiculous

seems like the chambers where hades just summons in tons of enemies must be a huge time loss

[tight basin]

nah timer pauses in the 45 sec survival rooms

so it's good

saves like

[bright turret]

aah

[tight basin]

5 seconds for top level speed runners lol

[bright turret]

so it's acrually better than a normal room

[tight basin]

yeah

[bright turret]

and he oneshots each phase of alecto

seriously

[tight basin]

lmao sounds about right

[lyric bane]

is there a way to speed beowulf up?

[tight basin]

charged shot hammer

or sudden rush

[lyric bane]

I gave up on rama, it is just so bad at fighting so many adds

like...sneak

[tight basin]

i'm assuming you're talking about the dragon rush on beo btw

em4

they're trying to do em4

[lyric bane]

good idea

[tight basin]

and got sneak iirc

[lyric bane]

is there any animation cancelling stuff I can do?

like rails

[tight basin]

no but you have one of the highest damaging aspects in the game so everything's gonna get one shot anyways

[lyric bane]

I think dad literally lock health on summon phase

I was trying to practice on P2 fight a while ago, and discovered that even if your attack set his health instantly to 0, he will lock it at 66% and summon

so does the second wave

[tight basin]

flood flare -> deadly strike -> mirage shot
hyper sprint + rush delivery optional but would be nice
chaos grasps or shots for big damage

wells for braids or stones

or jerkies for stronger attacks

charged shot on beo is great, sudden rush is a nice alternative, ferocious guard is also nice

[lyric bane]

let me try...isn't I shouldn't be charging beowulf?

[tight basin]

what

beo's whole thing is dragon rushing

[lyric bane]

sorry I mean long time charging

[tight basin]

i mean it depends

[lyric bane]

I should get as many dragon rush as possible

[tight basin]

if they're close, dont charge that long
if they're a bit farther, charge longer

just depends on positioning

not a good thing to rely on tbh

consistency is better than damage here if you're not hard resetting for good rng

[bright turret]

so for a hera run do I want to just force aphro in order to get crush shot?

crystal beam?

[cunning urchin]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IHgXN-_iYn3G2BWUJ05GSi0Qm4j4FsE0yPNM3stKpOE/edit

Start Eternal Rose for Crush Shot, yes.

[bright turret]

then force artemis or demeter if one didn't already show?

[tight basin]

force demeter if you dont have snow burst

[bright turret]

ok

so force aphro then demeter

[tight basin]

if you see artemis or poseidon, pick those up as well

not that important but would be really nice

poseidon for tidal dash, artemis to open up mirage shot with poseidon

[bright turret]

ok, so pick up artemis and poseidon, but don't have to force them in

[tight basin]

yes

unless like

[bright turret]

unless I already have snow burst?

[tight basin]

you leave tart with only dem and aphro in your god pool and already have snurst

yeah

hopefully you get 3/4 of those leaving tart, but not that important

[bright turret]

makes sense, i'll go for another hera build once I've won with chiron hangover again

[pure glacier]

Does cast Aphrodite go well with aspect of Poseidon?

[tight basin]

yeah it works

you gotta be like right in their face to hit it, or get blown kiss for a bit more range

but it's good damage yeah

[pure glacier]

Should I only focus on that?

or should I also get something for special/attack?

[tight basin]

you could try and go for mirage shot

but that would require finding 2 other gods and getting their duo, which might not happen

i mean yeah

[pure glacier]

Is that Poseidon?

[tight basin]

mirage shot?

[pure glacier]

Yes

[tight basin]

it's poseidon artemis duo

[pure glacier]

ah

[tight basin]

so you could do something like

artemis attack and poseidon special

i would say pos dash but you're more likely to knock them out of the cast range

[pure glacier]

Does artemis attack just increase damage and crit chance?

[tight basin]

small damage increase and 15% crit chance

oh wait snow burst from demeter is probably much more reasonable lmao

[pure glacier]

idk, i rarely use artemis

[tight basin]

snow burst is a higher priority than mirage shot

so start aphro, get dem for snow burst

[pure glacier]

It says on the wiki it inflicts chill

Does that just freeze enemies?

[tight basin]

slows them down

[pure glacier]

Or slow them?

Kk

[tight basin]

but snow burst just has good damage

its like an extra 40 damage every time you cast

at least

[pure glacier]

should i run triple cast?

[tight basin]

pretty large aoe too, so you're likely to hit others with it

yes

[pure glacier]

one last question

[tight basin]

sure

[bright turret]

so i'm pretty sure with the number of aphro boons I have I can now make enemies deal 50% damage

[tight basin]

nice

[pure glacier]

Does Aphrodite cast go into opponents?

[tight basin]

yes

[pure glacier]

ok

[tight basin]

although you can like

undershoot it so it hits but doesnt lodge

[pure glacier]

Undershoot?

[tight basin]

or if you get blown kiss it might go thorugh them

[tight basin]

yeah

there's like

a point where the cast still hits but doesnt lodge

[pure glacier]

Oh, okay.

[tight basin]

if you dont hit that point you either miss or lodge

nothing wrong with the cast lodging since youre using pos sword

just special and get it out of them

[pure glacier]

So. Arte attack and posiedon special are good, but not necessary.

Snow burst is good and more reliable,

[lyric bane]

is there a way to cancel the period after stone drop that you cannot pick it up?

EM4 just made to fight so much more RNG

I did not know it can summon double sneak

[tight basin]

wdym

[lyric bane]

like....after the bloodstone is dropped, there is an animation where it got lift up then drop to the ground

[tight basin]

well no you cant cancel that, that's part of the game

[lyric bane]

and in that period you cannot pick it up even if you are right next to it

oh welp

[tight basin]

i think like every cast is like that

after it comes out or whatever, there's a bit of time where you cant pick it up yet

[lyric bane]

hmmm....

and double sneak literally change the fight into a health wall..

the only way to deal damage is trade damage

I always miss the timing

[tight basin]

i mean it's just practice

[lyric bane]

is there a visual que for timing?

[tight basin]

with enough practice you know when you can pick it up

like you said, the cast lifts up a bit

[lyric bane]

sorry I mean the meg timing

megging the sneak

[bright turret]

so

i now have onver 50% damage reduced from weak

and I ow recieve 20% less damage when below 40%

[tight basin]

damage reduction is multiplicative btw

so it's not 70% reduced, prob something like idk 60 or something idk how to do math

[gusty rapids]

hey it was like 36 hours

[tight basin]

i thought it was less than a day

[gusty rapids]

nah

[tight basin]

have i been scammed

[gusty rapids]

bigp did it some morning, I did it the next day night

[bright turret]

so it's slightly less insane, but still ridiculous

[tight basin]

man's didn't even have it for 2 days lmao

"i give you two weeks" how about 36 hours

[sonic ridge]

https://i.imgur.com/M20vAgx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/v4ELsI2.jpg

how do I read this?
trippy flare deals 271 damage
flood flare - ?
what's 402 -> 175?

[tight basin]

ah

trippy flare bug

poms give double the value of what they say, so the boon never gives you the real number value
it only shows up in replacement boons

[gusty rapids]

wait it shows the proper damage when offering a replace??

wild

[tight basin]

yeah apparently

[bright turret]

did the maths, it's almost exactly 60% damage reduction

[tight basin]

your trippy falre is currently doing 402 damage, you can replace it to flood flare which will do 175 damage

the 271 shown under the boon in your boon menu is wrong

because of the aforementioned bug

[tight basin]

huh i'd assume it wouldnt be close because it was multiplicative

wait no i was right lmao

not 70, closer to 60

[bright turret]

you were exactly right lmao, it's a maximum of 60.4%

[proper furnace]

i love trippy flare

[bright turret]

ofc that only applies when I'm close to them, they have weak, and i have less than 40% hp

[tight basin]

lmfao

ayo new pfp

[bright turret]

hades did not hit me

i got nothing out of my damage reduction

[tight basin]

lmfao

damage reduction boons are pointless if you never get hit 🧠

[bright turret]

I made it there with 3 death defieds and 157 out of 175 hp

[tight basin]

partly the reason why i never take that stuff unless i dont have a choice

[bright turret]

the temple of styx dealt more damage to me than him

[tight basin]

lmfao it do be like that

[bright turret]

also I approve of the postgame cutscene after escaping

[pure glacier]

I finally got snow burst

And it’s common 💀

[lyric bane]

how to stop hades from healing

[pure glacier]

keep attacking it?

[lyric bane]

emm...I heard from a guide that you need to break the vast or something to stop the heal

[proper furnace]

there is one pot that has a green column, destroy and it jumps to other pot

but honestly just keep attacking him, a great build can out heal him and others is just nice dmg

he always heals 3 times

[bright turret]

what should I use to get to 6 heat on the pact?

[lyric bane]

forced overtime

[bright turret]

ok, i'll go for it

[lyric bane]

faster enemy = faster dying

[proper furnace]

can do some combos of MM/bp/td

[lyric bane]

(of your enemy

[proper furnace]

jolted moment

[tight basin]

That's why it's a decent idea to learn it early so when you climb heat it'll be "free"

[lyric bane]

I still cannot beat EM4 even without overtime

Such a damage sponge

Hell, hades EX4 have more health as the health of Every Single Boss in previous level combined

47K

[proper furnace]

first time em4 can be rough

some also can just insta phase him

[lyric bane]

not counting damage absorbed by the phase lock

I have been trying the whole afternoon doing that single practice fight

it is just so much health and adds

[proper furnace]

summons are the roughest part yeah

[lyric bane]

I really don't want to use beowulf mirage shot...

[proper furnace]

sneak/bballs can be rough

specially on rama

do you have summons already/can use them on hades?

[lyric bane]

yes, but use them to deal with adds most of time

I am thinking about using thanotos but even adds can teleport and phase out so not sure

[proper furnace]

using meg i assume?

also i was gonna suggest using them on the adds anyways

always on the 2nd batch of summons

if dad summons the crystal you can also try to do the funny thing to avoid the 2nd set of summons

[lyric bane]

hmmm?

how

keep it alive?

[proper furnace]

hit it a bunch so it spawns those small crystals and keep enough of them alive before the 2nd set of summons

if there is enough dad will summon nothing

[cunning urchin]

What weapon aspect do you want to use then?

[lyric bane]

well, i mean I would totally take mirage shot if I found one

but for practice I just don't wanna rely on a RNG duo too much

[cunning urchin]

What are you practicing for?

[lyric bane]

for....high heat runs?

[cunning urchin]

Ah.

[lyric bane]

or mid heat, i am not sure the defnition

I just wanna grab the 32 heat trophy

[cunning urchin]

Start Passion Flare and then get Snow Burst (or alternatively Frost Strike).

With Privileged Status.

[rose nexus]

At least 32 heat doesn’t have to deal with much that makes rng worse, mirage shot would be doable

[cunning urchin]

Although Flood Shot into Mirage Shot is still super consistent at 32.

[rose nexus]

^

[lyric bane]

I have couple runs where I did everything I can but still no mirage shots boon found

so not really confident...

[rose nexus]

Did you use god’s legacy?

[lyric bane]

yep

[proper furnace]

you can also avoid em4 at 32 heat if that is what you want

tho you will need to practice other things

[rose nexus]

Did you have the right prereqs?

[lyric bane]

such as?

yes

[rose nexus]

Not every Artemis boon counts

[lyric bane]

Artemis attack

[proper furnace]

tight deadline mainly ig, idk what pact are you using so i cant say much

[rose nexus]

Gotta be pretty unlucky to miss your duo in that case

[cunning urchin]

Anyway, you can just start Passion Flare if you don't want to rely on Mirage Shot.

[rose nexus]

I only have that happen before I get rerolls, or if I get screwed out of the right cores early

Personally it’s better to just get your duo boon I think

Than to not get it

[proper furnace]

passion flare very comfy

who needs mirage

[cunning urchin]

But your builds weren't as consistent until you got some help with it + lots of experience.

It's not just the mirror.

[rose nexus]

Trur

[lyric bane]

I...I can do only TD2, but TD3 is just a bit too much for me

I am not sure why (?)

[proper furnace]

what other pacts are you using combined with td?

em4 is already a high time sink

[cunning urchin]

Might wanna move to #h1-high-heat-strategies if you want to talk 32 Heat pacts btw.

[lyric bane]

I do not know what else I should do to be faster

right build, one shotting enemies

[lyric bane]

I am doing only em4 now, but planning on using it and FO2..

[valid dagger]

If all you want is a clear atm then both of those will make it way harder, would try reading pins in #h1-high-heat-strategies

[lyric bane]

I...wat

200% damage, no healing?

[valid dagger]

They look intimidating at first but they’re relatively easy

You can heal using SD, it just requires you to have reasonably clean bosses

And HL isn’t much of an issue when you’re running FO0 and everything’s slow as hell

[lyric bane]

SD?

[valid dagger]

Stubborn Defiance

[lyric bane]

ohhh I see

yeah...think I could try

[bright turret]

so atm a direct hit with all 3 casts from hera deals 666 damage

[rose nexus]

That’s almost 667!

[bright turret]

i lost

however now i'm doing a guan yu run, what boons should I have to make that work

[proper furnace]

#h1-discussion message gy guide by Nyaanyaa

in short, grab good % special, get charged skewer > spam it

[bright turret]

thx

[lyric bane]

how to unlock aspects for gun and fists?

[plain river]

The hidden aspects?

[lyric bane]

emm yes

I have cleared the game twice with guns

[rose nexus]

Same as the rest

Been told Guan Yu phrase by Achilles, blood spent on aspects of that weapon

And get a conversation from someone

In this case, Zeus and asterius

[pure glacier]

So, i assume artemis is best for aspect of nem, should I go for a duo boon or focus on leveling up crit chance as much as possible?

I’m looking at the codex, all that would work for a build like this is either heart rend or splitting headache

I think splitting headache would be better?

[lucid oar]

Heart rend is much better

[pure glacier]

Really?

[tacit swift]

I'll be going for my 100th escape attempt
I also want a decent-good cast build

Are there any cast builds that I can go with that involve spear or gun? I've done the others I just want to try those two but I don't know what to go with

[tight basin]

rail doesn't exactly have a cast build, but the spear does
achilles with hunting blades

ares cast, some artemis core

[tacit swift]

will try that

[tight basin]

make sure you use your special before casting

[tacit swift]

ok

[plain river]

10000%

[proper furnace]

if you want more crit chance, hunter's mark is more than enough

[pure glacier]

I’ve been running dash strike and attack for art, and weakness for Aphrodite

[tight basin]

Technically yes but no one uses it like that

I do recognize it as a castpect tho

[plain river]

Hunting blades eris 🧠

[still vortex]

Someone give me a beowulf build rec plz.

[rose nexus]

Flood flare, Artemis attack, mirage shot, charged shot

Ez clap

[burnt mirage]

Whats best aspect for each weapons?

[lucid oar]

For speedruns: nemesis, Achilles, Beowulf, hera, Demeter, eris/hestia

For high heat: nemesis, guan yu, Zeus/zag/beowulf, Rama, Demeter, hestia

For casual runs: it don’t matter

[rose nexus]

For absoluteness: chaos

[tight basin]

For a beefy % attack: Aphrodite

[floral wraith]

Anyone know whether a Heroic Phalanx Shot (athena) would be better than an Epic Slicing Shot (ares)? I've been able to cheese theseus really well with slicing shot and got a god build with it once that was absolutely insane, but I don't know if there are any other casts that are as good.

[plain river]

What weapon is it

And what’s the rest of your build

[floral wraith]

Bow & Arrow

[plain river]

which aspect?

and what other gods do you have on what

[tight basin]

lightning phalanx and hunting blades are both great duos, but neither are generally used for bow lol

[floral wraith]

Don't have aspects yet, though I just bought the rail gun so I think it should let me soon 🤷‍♂️

Is there a cast / duo that works particularly well for the bow?

[plain river]

You don’t tend to really cast much on non-castpect tbh

but it might open duos depending on the rest of your build

so what other gods do you have

And on what core

[floral wraith]

I have Zeus, Poseidon, Athena, Aphrodite, Artemis, Ares, Dionysus, Hermes, Demeter as who I can receive boons from I believe

also what weapon would you consider best working with cast?

[plain river]

that’s not what I meant l

[floral wraith]

oh my bad

[plain river]

Any of the aspects that specifically buff casts

out of ares,athena, aphrodite, artemis, demeter, dionysus, zeus, and poseidon, you will have a maximum of 4 in your god pool unless you force another in with keepsakes or have an interesting shop where you pick up a 4th only to enter a different 5th god next chamber

I was asking which ones you had

in your pool

[floral wraith]

I might not understand what you mean, by pool do you mean my inventory for that run? The scrying pool for whatever reason? I'm really sorry for being a little slow to this stuff

[plain river]

Inventory

[floral wraith]

Can you make a good build based off the Aspect of Chiron bow and it's special?

eesh

[plain river]

Yes
But what’s good for chiron isn’t comparable to other aspects

Force in Drunken flourish or deadly flourish
Then force aphro in for heartbreak strike in asphodel
Look for concentrated and relentless volley hammers
If it’s dio, you want every pom you can put on the drunken flourish to go on the drunken flourish, and you’ll want priviledged status

If it’s artemis you really rely on chaos for more special additive

Note: chiron only rely comes into it’s own around levels 4 and 5

Hope that helps

[rose nexus]

Instructions unclear, built chire MisfortunE

[rose nexus]

@pure glacier but without chaos flourish boons and concentrated volley, Artemis special Chiron doesn’t do very much damage

Because without concentrated volley each arrow is only 10 damage

So concentrated is pretty crucial if you wanna use Artemis or Aphrodite on special for Chiron

You might have to give up and try again if you don’t get the right hammer or else you’ll be kinda weak

Well, might want to. Won’t necessarily HAVE to if your only goal is to clear

[gentle wave]

doing a twin fists build

any recommendations?

[rose nexus]

Dionysus attack

[plain river]

Any specific aspect?

ME works because it’s a melee aspect (curse of agony, divine flourish, Merciful end, divine dash)
But you can also go zeus or dionysus on attack aphrodite on special

Zeus on attack wants jolted and poms on jolted
Dionysus on attack wants poms

[quasi sphinx]

any boon recommendations for all weapons in general

[tight basin]

heavy knuckle fists for arty atk

[rose nexus]

Use deus ex machina on all aspects

[floral wraith]

Can someone confirm if the evergreen acorn expires because I unequipped it in the middle of a run via the keepsake closet after a boss?

Evergreen Acorn is Eurydice's keepsake that allows you up to 5 free hits on each area's final boss

[tight basin]

once you unequip a keepsake you can't use it for the rest of the run

so if i start with say, ares' keepsake, and take it off before asphodel and switch it to athena's, after i leave asphodel i can't change to ares'

[floral wraith]

ooh makes sense

[still vortex]

tried it, it was "okay" still felt hard to use compared to chaos aspect. oh well.

it def chunks bosses, but mobs feels a little clunky

[tight basin]

chaos aspect has like very little damage output compared to beo lmao

[tight basin]

assuming you have mirage yeah

if not mirage then hyper delivery

[still vortex]

one shotting mobs wasn't the problem, it was managing the crowd while trying to manage your bull rush length and gathering your cast gems. I preferred the chaos aspect style of bull rush where you don't have to worry about over shooting. It might be a skill issue, but I felt the fun factor and power factor was meh.

[cunning urchin]

If you play on pad, remap your Cast button to LB/L1 for Beowulf. That'll help with the clunkiness.

[still vortex]

i cleared hades fairly easily... it was only 5 heat

[cunning urchin]

Also try to just Dash-Strike in their face and charge from there, then do minimum charge.

You can load your Casts at any time during your rush or during block or whenever btw.

You can even pick up a bloodstone with your rush and load it in the same rush.

[still vortex]

i probably need to learn how to do this, it's a muscle memory thing, and I think I'm used to charging it a little longer than minimal

[cunning urchin]

Yeah, it's just practice.

[still vortex]

rush being y and cast being a with dash being b makes doing the cast mid dash kinda weird

[cunning urchin]

Well, that's why the first thing I said was to remap your Cast button to a shoulder button.

[still vortex]

my right shoulder is reload and interact... I could change but I have hundreds of runs with it this way, it'll be a mind game to remap my head.

[cunning urchin]

Pretty much all of the best Beowulf players who play on pad do that.

You'll use your Cast button so much in a run, you'll get used to it pretty quickly.

[still vortex]

i guess i could see that... what is their interact button?

is dash a better shoulder than cast? trying to wrap my head around it

[burnt anchor]

best beo build?

posideon cast feels slow

like with that its taking 20 mins run

with sack on room 2

[tight basin]

are you getting mirage shot

[still vortex]

i think i'm too married to dash and attack being b and y.

[burnt anchor]

no

[tight basin]

that's why poseidon cast is used - it opens up mirage shot

[burnt anchor]

if i use aphro is that required then

[tight basin]

no

[burnt anchor]

cuz i got a run with herioc aphro

[tight basin]

mirage shot is bugged so it does 100% more damage instead of 30%

[burnt anchor]

and that took 20 mins too

[tight basin]

if you use aphro, you use pstatus and look for snow burst from demeter

or frost strike

or if you really need it, mistral dash

[burnt anchor]

pstatus?

[still vortex]

priv status is more damage with 2 curses mirror bonus

[tight basin]

privileged status

[burnt anchor]

ah ok

which one is better

[still vortex]

i usually do family favorite... not many of my best builds are a double status

[tight basin]

pstatus passion flare is used at higher heats because of consistency, flood flare mirage is used for speedrunning because of the big damage

[burnt anchor]

alr ill go for flare + mirage

[still vortex]

pstatus is 40% damage, family favorite is usually 25-30%

[tight basin]

they're both flare

[tight basin]

very few builds actually use priv status

[burnt anchor]

flood flare

posideon

[tight basin]

passion flare is one of the few that uses priv status well

[still vortex]

all the casts are called flare with beo

[cunning urchin]

Most common controller config at high level is default but with LB/L1 (the codex button in default config) swapped to Cast when using Beowulf & Hera and LB/L1 swapped to Reload when using Rail.

Codex can just be on R3 since you almost never use it at high level anyway.

There are a few who swap Dash to a shoulder button, but it's a lot less common.

[burnt anchor]

cuz like im trying to work my way up to 8 heat

for the first skelly thing dont tell me what it is

but posideon is fine for that

right

[tight basin]

yes

[burnt anchor]

alr