#h1-discussion

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rustic vale
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Surely they do

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If chaos shield stans exist then zag shield sweats are just them but better

patent mesa
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yeah zagshield is a good aspect so the sweats exist

warm nimbus
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ok angel said a few months back its 105 vs 120

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which doesnt even make any sense

patent mesa
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bruh

warm nimbus
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i thought cshot was 80 base damage?

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idek man

patent mesa
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yeah that's right

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and dragon rush should buff that too

warm nimbus
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wait i thought we were talking about zag vs chaos

still glade
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why does this conversation feel like a stroke

patent mesa
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we are I'm just noting that beo definitely buffs cshot

still glade
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what are we talking about

patent mesa
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but idk about zag

warm nimbus
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oh ofc

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beo cshot cracked lmao

patent mesa
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hera in shambles

still glade
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i like hera sometimes

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funny bow

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shoot cast

warm nimbus
still glade
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me omw to slap demeter cast on hera

patent mesa
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imagine playing hera and actually having hermes pool polluted by that quick reload thing

warm nimbus
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qr is good on hera lol

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or at least i think so

still glade
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yea

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i think with exit wounds on bosses its fine

patent mesa
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yeah but who needs quick reload when beo has 0 reload

still glade
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good point

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i did a run recently with maxed zag fists and plume

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had 33.6% on plume

warm nimbus
still glade
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kept dodging

warm nimbus
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your casts pop, you go make a sandwich, come back and your casts still arent back yet

still glade
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that sweet sweet dodge chance mmm

warm nimbus
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i am not a user of that disgusting and vile flare

still glade
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trippy beo user detected

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lethal force engaged

rustic vale
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Lethal defence engaged

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Have you guys ever seen Hades get executed by the demeter legendary?

still glade
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yes

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multiple times

rustic vale
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I got to earlier today

still glade
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reminds me of an ulti from dota that i love

rustic vale
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first time ever picking up the legendary on an cancerous a achilles build earlier today

still glade
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"REAP WHAT YOU SOW"

rustic vale
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I watched asterius shadegrief and Hades get executed by it in slow-mo

tight pendant
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hades is one of the games of all time

tight pendant
still glade
rustic vale
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It’s essentially an execute in other games

still glade
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like this

rustic vale
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The enemy hits 10% hp? They die

tight pendant
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gahdam

still glade
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yep

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probably my favorite legendary

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for style points

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it never hurts to have

rustic vale
still glade
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but goddamn it cool

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i got it in styx for the first time and i didnt know it worked on bosses

rustic vale
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My favourite legendary has to be Huge Catch

still glade
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then watched as my father got executed in slowmotion

warm nimbus
rustic vale
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I just watched my clip that I took of it and realised my entire second phase of dad fight was less than 30 seconds

warm nimbus
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its so funny

tight pendant
still glade
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whats the fastest you guys have gotten a legendary?

tight pendant
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can we get some hades stickers up in here

rustic vale
still glade
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i got divine protection from athena just before furies

rustic vale
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I’ve walked into furies with multiple duos I think

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I may be remembering wrong though

still glade
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im not sure about that

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it can be possible

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but

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multiple seems too rng heavy

rustic vale
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So I’ve walked into furies with vengeful mood duo and zeus legendary before

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I just went back to my camera roll

warm nimbus
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i play a lot of eris and zeus never even shows up if i wanted to get splitting bolt

still glade
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its weird

rustic vale
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I think duos > legendaries 9/10 times

warm nimbus
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bruh you guys need to give me your zeus luck

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zeus shows up like 1-2 times a run for me

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and 1 of those is c1 lol

rustic vale
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Splitting bolt comes up more often than jolted when I’m going super soaker

warm nimbus
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anyway ive come to accept that however many times i get rd clockets, ill never get jolted

tight pendant
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how do u do 65 heat

rustic vale
still glade
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fight god

tight pendant
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what

rustic vale
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Yes

tight pendant
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okay

patent mesa
tight pendant
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what is em5

gray apex
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64 heat is the max amount

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And no one has done it unseeded to this day

onyx linden
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Omg the bone hydras name changed to learnie on the vanquished screen lmao

warm nimbus
high island
cinder lichen
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…Oh yeah I forgot Chaos Aspect was reworked (nerfed), oof

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How broken was it again before it threw shields in a Star pattern?

still glade
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bruh im doing a zag shield run

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i get epic aphro attack

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then the next 2 gods decide to give me heroics of the same attack

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cmon man i just want a heart rend build

median spear
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the gods have spoken

still glade
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goddamnit

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i got baited

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i thought i got heart rend

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but no

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splitting headache

analog plover
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Am i the only one who plays only stygius exa ?

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I swear all the other weapons are sadge to play

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Arthur and lucifer are easily my favorites, op af and no brain

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  • really satisfying to play
raven cipher
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Is there any mod that lets me just hold left-click (Mouse and keyboard) to keep hitting stuff? rather than having to spam left-click, i have finger pain issues

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I could easily find some AHK script that spam-clicks M1 when i hold it down, but that would be pretty annoying for menus etc

gray apex
raven cipher
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Idk i just started, so i only really know the sword in the beginning, it really hurts having to spam left-click :x

void vigil
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only with fists iirc

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so its the most accessible weapon but it takes a while to unlock

gray apex
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Sword is a rough one

void vigil
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and with other weapons with certain hammers

high island
gray apex
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Yea it's actually not that many weapons now that I think about it...

raven cipher
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Surely there has to be a mod for rapid-fire or auto-fire or whatever you wanna call it

high island
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Haven't heard of one.

void vigil
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if you cant find one on nexusmods, then the modding server is pinned in #self-promotion - theyve made accesibility mods for other stuff before, so theres bound to be someone willing to help id bet

raven cipher
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ty i asked in there

analog plover
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U can just play lucifer then

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U always pick infinite chamber anyway

analog plover
gray apex
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Arthur can be less tense on the fingers yea

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Especially swingy arthur

high island
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Using a pad instead of KBM might also help.

gray apex
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Controller is comfy

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Especially shoulder buttons for me

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Half my buttons are on there bouldy

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Dash cast reload etc

analog plover
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I love arthur's aspect

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Athena aphrodite into full dmg

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Big dmg

south mountain
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should I prioritize unlocking erebus gateways and save up 5 diamonds for them?

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or unlock, say, the nectar +1 lvl upgrade first?

gray apex
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And the one that makes Keys give you +1 roll

south mountain
gray apex
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Erebus gates have a heat requirement and you cant get hit in there, they can be worth it situationally early in the run but later on they are a lot harder due to difficult enemies and obviously a higher heat requirement so they're a niche upgrade

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The main way people benefit from them is because they can turn blue laurels into gold bouldy

high island
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I think most players ignore them in virtually every single run.

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High Heat players who do like 40+ enter them more regularly at least in Tartarus and Asphodel.

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Elysium Infernal Gates are a scam.

south mountain
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also are any of the upgrades not found in 'work orders' anything but cosmetical?

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oh found it on the wiki

upbeat shore
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Is Rocket Bomb okay with Eris?

south mountain
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I had one with that + the 5 rockets

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insane fun

high island
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Best single hammer for DPS. Best hammer combo for DPS is Rocket Bomb + Cluster Bomb, aka "clockets".

rustic vale
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rocket bomb is kinda the best hammer on exagryph

south mountain
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what is you guys' most fun olympian god and why is it poseidon?

warm nimbus
high island
warm nimbus
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ah i see

south mountain
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lol

analog plover
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nvm i love gilgamesh aspect

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holy so good for speedrun i swear

analog plover
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havent got even once the zeus poss duo

rustic vale
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uhh

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Tf

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judging without even using it?

signal aspen
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they are not wrong tho

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zeus attack with artemis special is way more consistent

signal aspen
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or is chaos the slowest thanthink

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nvm i was way off

rustic vale
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Zag sword is faster than poseidon and arthur?!?

signal aspen
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its just another ME weapon

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and arthur is very slow

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it has no dps

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also this is modded gaming

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gilgamesh might be the slowest unmodded aspect bouldy

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its either that or chaos tbh

south mountain
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daedelus hammer or double boon elite room?

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I'm kinda thinking the double boon elite room

signal aspen
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hammer

south mountain
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since daedelus will show up later again

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Although up to two Hammers will always be offered, it is not guaranteed they will be offered again, should Zagreus choose to not take it.

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oh hm

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hammer it is then

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then again I'm a cast build

rustic vale
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Cast build on which weapon

south mountain
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poseidon sword

south mountain
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don't know if it's true

signal aspen
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hmm

rustic vale
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Sounds accurate to me

signal aspen
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idk

signal aspen
rustic vale
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and what are you already building?

south mountain
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ares / artemis

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I already have both in my pool

rustic vale
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Which cast

south mountain
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I have rare curse of pain on my special (80 doom)

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zeus cast

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(only rare unfortunately)

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I did get exit wounds from artemis

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dno, zeus was recommended to me I'm a noob

rustic vale
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getting pressure points or support fire will open up the artemis legendary for you

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+2 casts

south mountain
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anyway I wanna do the double boon

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just to see if the hammer shows up again

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or if I'll only get 1

rustic vale
south mountain
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I dno

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just saw it somewhere

signal aspen
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saw where

rustic vale
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Where

south mountain
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some reddit post don't recall

rustic vale
signal aspen
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oh god

south mountain
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what cast do you guys prefer?

signal aspen
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dont listen to that

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its from reddit

rustic vale
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I swear

signal aspen
rustic vale
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Every single gaming community I’m in agrees that reddit is a horrible place to go to learn info about a game

signal aspen
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with athena cast you can get some zeus boons and get lightning phalanx duo boon

south mountain
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anyway got epic pressure points

rustic vale
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That’ll open up the artemis legendary for you

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Possibly +2 casts so

warm nimbus
south mountain
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should I take poseidon as my 4th in the pool or skip in favor of a shop?

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I love poseidon in general not sure how good it is on a cast build

rustic vale
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Getting artemis + poseidon duo is kinda neglible on anything but beowulf… what do you still have open that poseidon would slot into? Dash?

south mountain
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ya dash

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attack

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call also open but dno

rustic vale
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Getting poseidon dash is always good, plus getting mirage shot would be a nice bonus

south mountain
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oof did get tidal dash but it's common

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oh well should still knockback

rustic vale
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tidal dash common is fine though

south mountain
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my exit wounds was also common 😭

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can ambrosia delight / pom porridge from eurydice hit the same boon multiple times?

signal aspen
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no

south mountain
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ill do refreshing nectar then I think

south mountain
south mountain
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damn almost defeated hades without using a single defiance

short glen
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Nice!

south mountain
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that puts me now on a... 8/23 = 34.8% winrate, although it took me 14 runs to get my first clear, so after my first clear I have a 77.8% winrate

short glen
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That's pretty common honestly

south mountain
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for me hades was less of a roadblock than the minotaur and shield dude bosses

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those were real gatekeepers for me

short glen
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In my experience usually once you get your first win you get more faster, since you've advanced enough as a player to do it again. And yeah they're a nightmare

south mountain
mint coral
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I feel 14 is more of the exception tbh

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I've seen more 30+ runs for first win

south mountain
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that's what I've been told

rustic vale
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First clear for me was run 50 bouldy

short glen
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Yeah, mine was 32.

mint coral
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45th run here bouldy

grim star
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Hello, quick question. Almost have the game platinum, but I somehow never got orpheus to sing again? Help? It's almost my last trophy left. I keep suiciding and she doesn't proc he sings

south mountain
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I had 2 losses since my first win

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one was with a bad chiron build

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since I only had put 1 titans blood into it and then tried to build around it 😢

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it was not good

rustic vale
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Somehow I just won with the weirdest cast/call chaos build

south mountain
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and the other was a mediocre uh spear build I think

rustic vale
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It really should’ve been an god’s legacy run tbh

south mountain
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I lost with like 5% left or something

mint coral
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My first win was talos + blizzard shot

rustic vale
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I think my first win was on shield

south mountain
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my first win was with chaos shield build

short glen
south mountain
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but I only had 1 point into aspect of chaos

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so it was just bad 😂

south mountain
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I got carried by like 80% dodge or something

mint coral
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But weird, did you get good riddance from eurydice?

rustic vale
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Chiron is great once you have it at max level

south mountain
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but at 1 point I was thoroughly disappointed

mint coral
dull niche
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run 50 the blessed run

honest nebula
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beat the game for the second time

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ez ez

tired karma
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finishing a run with 69 health left is the greatest achievement

raven cipher
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fuuuck i just fought Theus? and the minotaur together for the first time, i killed Minotaur and then got Theus to like 10-15% HP before i died, my fingers are not looking forward to trying again 😦

tired karma
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use shield, will be much easier

raven cipher
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lol

tired karma
raven cipher
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i did but i pretty much couldn't hit theus because he was blocking everything and spamming these H-E double Hockey Sticks circles

tired karma
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just bull rush on him horizontally from left to right, it will counter his attacks while also letting you to avoid the circle spams that some God provides for him

mint coral
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to bypass the shield wait for him to throw the spear and hit him while he retreats or dash through the spin and hit the back

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saving a call for when he start calling a god can be huge to nuke much of his hp due to no shield

honest nebula
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yeah everytime he throws spear he walks away

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thats your window

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hide behind pillar when he aims the spear

mint coral
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or block it if using shield

south mountain
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what to pick between sisyphus or chaos room?

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I'm tempted to go sisyphus because I still have to gift him a bunch

patent mesa
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for strictly ingame strength chaos

south mountain
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makes sense but I also think my argument makes sense ^^

patent mesa
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yeah shady is really strong and you want that companion

lean timber
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ok i'm going to need you guys to stop trashing my favorite weapon aspects

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it's hurting my self esteem

rustic vale
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Bouldy boons = best boons

lean timber
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they're making fun of zag sword again 😭

rustic vale
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Maybe your favourite weapons should be the ones people aren’t trashing 😎

lean timber
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and hades spear

warm nimbus
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you... like zag sword?

lean timber
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i like beo

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yes. i like zag sword. move speed go brr

warm nimbus
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its 15%

lean timber
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ye

warm nimbus
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thats literally not even common greater haste

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thats so awful

rustic vale
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zag sword gives you that extra me damage

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with rush delivery

warm nimbus
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that 15% is barely even noticeable

lean timber
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but i can powerwalk

south mountain
rustic vale
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I think I’d take hermes over chaos most times

south mountain
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"how could you, boy? that hydra had a family"

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😭

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are we the baddies?

gray apex
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Maybe

upbeat shore
south mountain
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hydra is just misunderstood

signal aspen
lean timber
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glad to see everyone likes all the weapon aspects as much as i do 7ACOSP_coolcry 7ACOSP_coolcry 7ACOSP_coolcry

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also profanity filter? only stops f's?

signal aspen
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You can say ass

lean timber
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ass

signal aspen
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I hope

lean timber
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wow you really can

south mountain
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but you can't say frick

signal aspen
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Idk I haven't been caught yet

upbeat shore
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I guess PG-13 language is acceptable? Or just the bot doesn't stop it?

south mountain
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does blood frenzy stack?

signal aspen
south mountain
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so even if I use 3 death defiances

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it's still only 30% dmg?

signal aspen
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Ye

south mountain
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(for the epic)

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OOF

lean timber
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lol

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commits suicide twice for le epic damage boost

signal aspen
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Maybe it does, idk I've never died

lean timber
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no defiance needed

lapis trellis
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Wow all this time I thought it stacked

south mountain
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ayy beat hades without using a single revive

boreal gale
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Hey! Quick question, so I'm on run 10 of a new file after I got 100% on the game, and now Alecto has appeared in place of Meg. Why did she appear so soon?

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On my previous saves, she hadn't appeared for a while into my game.

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I didn't meet her for the first time until I had an almost maxed out mirror.

boreal gale
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Nope

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For some reason Hell mode crashes my game so I haven't used it

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What's the requirements for the first appearance?

brisk trail
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does Chaos say things when using her Shield aspect? I just had Chaos say "Devastation" while fighting bone hydra

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which is, well, surprising

boreal gale
brisk trail
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Ohh, yeah I do

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true

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alright

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ty

signal aspen
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Nah they do say stuff while using their shield

boreal gale
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Oh they do?

signal aspen
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Yes

boreal gale
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Neat. Didn't know that

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Just remembered how easy Alecto is in comparison to Tisiphone

rustic vale
boreal gale
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Oh my Gods, Support Fire on Exagryph is terrifyingly strong

safe tinsel
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Support fire is strong fullstop tbh

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And looks pretty

boreal gale
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Yeah but even moreso on Malphon and Exagryph

safe tinsel
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Yeah on malphon ita op

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Why is titan blood the hardest thing to grind for in hades bruhv

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I made some bad spending choices and now it'll take hours to get as much as I want

rustic vale
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Too bad it has an internal cooldown on it so it doesn’t shoot nearly as many times as it should

boreal gale
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Bcus I'm obviously running Zeus attack on Exagryph, the akiubt of CC I have is stupendous

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Might be the winning loadout, this.

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ELYSIUM BOSS HERE I COME

safe tinsel
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I used artemis aid on the badly tanned elysium boss and his health just melted

boreal gale
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Nvm

safe tinsel
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It was so fun

boreal gale
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Dead to Elysium bosses

latent moon
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lmao it do be like that

latent moon
safe tinsel
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3 per-

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The only weapons I'm good with already got the ambrose

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Before I thought God mode was an extra hard difficultly bit I just turned it on the got 20% damage resistance

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Game bout to get a lot easier

boreal gale
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Does the Thunder Signet increase my chances of getting Zeus boons?

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Can't remember

safe tinsel
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Kinda

brisk gyro
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hey what are some fun hades builds

safe tinsel
brisk gyro
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preferrable some stuff with demeter as I need to use her more

safe tinsel
boreal gale
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If so I might as well switch to Acorn after Asphodel

safe tinsel
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No increased rates until

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*Unfortunately

brisk gyro
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what weapon

safe tinsel
latent moon
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demeter boons work with any weapon where you would use aphrodite pretty much lol

boreal gale
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Tfw you only have 2 boons and you're in Asphodel

latent moon
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demeter has a relatively high % modifier so it's not a bad alternative

latent moon
boreal gale
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Back end of Asphodel

latent moon
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recently i had a run where i only had 3 boons until styx

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technically 4 if you count duo

boreal gale
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|-|

latent moon
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i guess i should count that

brisk gyro
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what are some builds that are just fun tho, I've done most of the tryhard damage builds, beat heat 32, now I'm just looking to give everybody nectar / ambrosia and try builds I havent before

boreal gale
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Walking into Lernies room on 10hp, no DD but an absurd amount of confidence and murderous intent

latent moon
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beowulf nuking can be fun

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a complete revenge build can be fun

boreal gale
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No hit lernie I am God

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Idk how the hell I survived that tbh

south mountain
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I defeated the heroes bosses

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with only taking 4 damage

boreal gale
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Causally walking round on 19hp in Elysium, which is my worst place by a mile

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At least I got the Asterius miniboss and not the ball

latent moon
south mountain
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I love tidal dash so much

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in fact I love poseidon in general so much

boreal gale
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I hate it when the turn circle is just close enough to run around the goddamn pillar

south mountain
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tidal dash by itself p much trivialized styx

lean timber
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area damage is extremely strong in styx, especially knockback like posideon gives

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the tiny rat rooms with tidal dash are basically done for you

lean timber
mint coral
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where is the 4th blood coming from, fish?

lean timber
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meg, hades, charon, fish

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yeh

upbeat shore
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Out of curiosity, how many HP do the tiny rats have? Is it 1?

lean timber
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not more than 10

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i think either 5 or 1

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maybe 3?

mint coral
lean timber
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love farming there

mint coral
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i dont think i've ever bought the blood/diamond there lol

lean timber
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my first few runs i was like "1200 obol, holy crap!" and now i'm just like yeah here have it i don't want it lol

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most of my runs i can afford it but i do run no/low heat so it's pretty different

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super quick farming tho

mint coral
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is prob faster just farming heat than saving 1200 each styx trip lol

warm nimbus
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thats like not buying anything in aspho or ely lol

latent moon
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i mean if you're playing low heat and you know what you're doing it's very easy to do, the only rng is if the titan blood actually shows up lmao

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probably take the mirror upgrade for increasing gold count before each biome

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golden touch or whatever

patent mesa
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yeah I streaked all bounties hell mode from run 8 while consistently buying the styx item

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you want golden touch and shady through tartarus

lean timber
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yeah golden touch is what you want for styx farming

latent moon
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would you just spam all of shady in tartarus or would you save some for aspho/ely

lean timber
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i don't often buy anything in elysium but sometimes in asphodel i drop a couple obols for a boon

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i never use shady

rustic vale
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If you want gold then here’s what I’m thinking

lean timber
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take obol doors bouldy

rustic vale
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Force pos for that +50% obols

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spam shady

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Get the one trinket that gives money

lean timber
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well if we're getting the gods' help on this chaos is goated

latent moon
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take fated authority and turn off dark foresight so you will always get coins lol

rustic vale
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Purge all your boons (we’re going boonless)

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Purging boons is free money and there are no downsides to it

lean timber
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now we're overkilling

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you wanna buy every shop in the game out?

rustic vale
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and I didn’t tell you this before but actually we’re using zag sword

lean timber
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TRUE

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we are

latent moon
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why zag sword you're just gonna end up using all the money right before hades

rustic vale
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So we can benefit from hoarding slash 15% faster

rustic vale
latent moon
#

someone mentioned buying out every shop lmao

rustic vale
#

That’s just 4iq

latent moon
#

but also how much gold would you really end up with after spending 1.2k

rustic vale
#

Who needs boons when you have obols

latent moon
#

lmao okay buddy

rustic vale
#

And uh obviously if we see hermes we’re taking the one that gives money per chamber over any other option

lean timber
#

side hustle goated

#

even common variety is insanely good to get even as far as mid-asphodel

rustic vale
#

We’re also actually using the d4 to reroll centaur hearts or other things into obols

upbeat shore
#

Side Hustle is my favorite Hermes boon, fite me

rustic vale
#

this is 2000 iq guys trust me

rustic vale
upbeat shore
#

Come back here and FITE ME YOU COWARD gilmanrage

lean timber
#

side hustle is unironically very good up to low-mid-heat

#

rush delivery is obviously one of his "best"

patent mesa
#

yeah it's a little overhated

#

I'd say it's very strong while LC and DD are in check

#

once healing is irrelevant it gets way weaker

rustic vale
#

Rush delivery on zag sword with common greater haste 😍

lean timber
#

mmmm i love intentionally screwing myself lmao

patent mesa
#

zag sword unironically also overhated imo

#

sure its only good build is ME

#

but it's good at ME

lean timber
#

SEE

#

everyone hates on zag sword 😭

#

i like it

rustic vale
#

All you need is Red rush delivery and you get like what, +~20% damage?

lean timber
#

heroic is 125% i believe... so yeah

patent mesa
#

it's multiplicative

rustic vale
#

without accounting for other sources of move speed

lean timber
#

mmm

patent mesa
#

which means it's good extra RD

#

slightly weaker than ichor I believe

rustic vale
#

75% as strong as the charon item

patent mesa
#

if I had full balance control I'd make zagsword in particular an RD prereq

rustic vale
#

but it’s permanent compared to charon item

patent mesa
#

but wouldn't touch its balance outside of general sword buffing

devout terrace
#

Zag sword used to give extra dash strike range

patent mesa
#

tragic

#

bring it back

lean timber
#

the game is making me run artemis guan yu rn.

rustic vale
#

Nooo

#

Sea storm beyblade guan-yu is the best guan-yu tbh

patent mesa
#

arty gy isn't too bad

signal aspen
#

artemis is good for guan yu

patent mesa
#

no weak sucks but you can heart rend with aphro attack

lean timber
#

i have artemis attack.

patent mesa
#

oh that's great

#

aphro special and you're set with heart rend

signal aspen
#

just get hunters mark

lean timber
#

have it epic style

#

heart rend is the ermmm the got dang uhhh

signal aspen
#

what

lean timber
#

oh extra crit damage against weak

#

ehhhh

#

i don't usually care for heart rend except against bosses but sure, why not

patent mesa
#

heart rend is very strong

#

3x multiplicative to 4.5x multiplicative

warm nimbus
patent mesa
#

smh just get gemstones

signal aspen
#

gemstones kinda obols

mint coral
#

obols for the house of hades

warm nimbus
#

but lvl 5 zag sword is almost the same as lvl 0 zag sword

#

only does anything if you get rd

signal aspen
#

you can walk to boons faster tho

#

massive timesave in speedruns

warm nimbus
#

oh yeah mb

#

i forgot dashing doesnt exist

lean timber
#

what

signal aspen
#

yeah they were removed in the last update

#

too op

warm nimbus
#

rip

#

all other aspects have to cope

#

they arent as good as zag sword ig

signal aspen
#

zagsword went from d tier to ss+ tier

warm nimbus
#

beo in shambles

rustic vale
#

They actually fixed all the bugs with beo in the same update

warm nimbus
#

beo just a worse hera?

signal aspen
#

yes

rustic vale
#

Beo > hera anyways

#

In my opinion

warm nimbus
#

hera gang

lean timber
#

i love both. i love beo for the raw damage, but hera has a special place in my heart for the extra speed and such. just feels cleaner

signal aspen
#

beo does no damage and is extremely slow

#

hera is the same thing but it is a bow

warm nimbus
#

hmm

lean timber
#

he's right you know

#

they both suck we forgot about the best aspect HADES SPEAR again

patent mesa
#

beo sucks don't buy it

warm nimbus
lean timber
#

half joking half underdog complex

patent mesa
# lean timber they both suck we forgot about the best aspect HADES SPEAR again

absolutely chaos. chaos is by far the best shield aspect and dont let anyone tell you otherwise. chaos has no downsides, while zeus does have a downside, and its that your special moves slower. being able to actually deal damage with your special is completely irrelevant if its slow and impossible to use, but having more specials is clearly better. what even is a "blitz disc" anyway? what a terrible name. "bonus shields" is the stuff im after. just think how much cooler it is to be able to throw 6 shields at once like captain america compared to just lazily sliding your shield along the ground. and dont even get me started on the design of the shields. the aspect of chaos' design on the shield is clearly surperior, because it is one big eye, while zeus has two small eyes. who doesnt like big eyes? not me! and also, chaos (the character) is just objectively cooler and more egg than zeus, who is neither cool nor egg. this is why the aspect of zeus on aegis, the shield of chaos, is clearly worse than the aspect of chaos on aegis, the shield of chaos. i mean, the aspect is even named after the original owner of the shield! it clearly gets bonus points for that. beowulf is even worse. its way too slow and doesnt deal any damage whatsoever. i tested the dps of beowulf vs chaos shield on skelly and determined that chaos shield was actually way faster and was clearly easier to use. and realistically, the size of beowulfs cast makes it almost impossible to use. its so small that youd never see any real use of it. chaos shield on the other hand is so versatile with its shield throwing ability that goes much farther. the special on beowulf is absolute trash in comparison, and thats something you should really consider when choosing which aspect is better. the best cast, normally (slicing shot) is somehow terrible on beo and i dont even want to try any of the other casts for fear of how bad they are. zagreus is just boring. who thought adding more damage would be more fun?

signal aspen
#

so true

lean timber
#

everyone here hates me for liking suboptimal things 7ACOSP_lmao

signal aspen
#

i dont hate you i just disagree with all of your awful opinions 🙂

rustic vale
lean timber
#

entirely fair

#

at least i like guan yu now, you guys like that one right?

patent mesa
#

gy gang

warm nimbus
#

gy based

patent mesa
#

best spear

warm nimbus
#

yess

signal aspen
#

guan yu is the worst shield aspect and i hate you for liking it

safe tinsel
#

Uh

warm nimbus
#

guan yu is a fists aspect?

safe tinsel
#

Isn't guan yu

#

A spear

warm nimbus
#

no

safe tinsel
#

Yeah ir right

warm nimbus
#

its rail actually, now that i recall

safe tinsel
#

It's probably the bow

mental vale
#

guan yu is actually the hidden aspect of the icbm

lean timber
#

guan yu is my favorite aspect on the twin fists of malphon in the game pyre by supergiant games

warm nimbus
#

i thought the dev team for transistor was team cherry

lean timber
#

holy crap i actually really like artemis attack on gy

#

i thought i would hate this

#

this goes hard

rustic vale
#

Uh

#

I think you mean

#

Beyblade go brrrrrr

lean timber
#

hmm, i still don't like slow aspects, but i feel like gy has real potential to become one of my top 3...

#

once i figure out a good build i'll be happy (don't tell me what it is)

patent mesa
#

it's worth to roll for swift flourish

lean timber
#

was thinking faster special would be phenomenal

patent mesa
#

guan yu has bad frame data

#

swift flourish helps with that

signal aspen
#

purple swift flourish on gy is so nice

warm nimbus
#

red swift flourish on gy is so nicer

rustic vale
#

Would swift strike make beyblade charge faster?

warm nimbus
#

dont think so

patent mesa
#

good question

signal aspen
#

i dont think it does

#

i think the only way to make the spin charge faster is quick spin

rustic vale
lean timber
#

yeah it doesn't

patent mesa
#

bruh

#

change my mind quick spin should be built in

rustic vale
patent mesa
#

or at least charge rate should be halfway between default and quick spin

lean timber
#

if quick spin was built in it could be on the edge of the good/busted line

warm nimbus
#

dude imagine built in quick spin + quick spin

#

spin gaming

lean timber
#

quick² spin

raw herald
#

Imagine charged charged skewer

lean timber
#

can u get that? i haven't seen a 2nd hammer yet

warm nimbus
#

yes

lean timber
#

oh wait i literally have that. lol

warm nimbus
#

charged charged skewer is the best gy hammer after charged skewer

lean timber
#

of course.

signal aspen
#

IMAGINE FLARING FLARING SPIN

#

OR VICIOUS VICOUS SKEWER

#

CHAIN CHAIN SKEWER

#

OMG

warm nimbus
#

chain chain skewer would actually be good ngl

rustic vale
#

Vicous vicous skewer + hunters mark

raw herald
#

Imagine 252 tack

warm nimbus
#

triple triple shot

patent mesa
#

charged charged shot?

warm nimbus
#

that would be so good

#

dude imagine shotgunning on rama with triple triple

rustic vale
#

Triple shot exagryph

raw herald
#

Draining draining cutter

#

Recursive cluster bomb

warm nimbus
#

omg clclockets

rustic vale
#

Cursed cursed slash

warm nimbus
#

gross

#

lol imagine 16% hp but you heal 4 hp every time you hit an enemy

#

that would be anti gaming

rustic vale
#

I want my hands on ferocious ferocious guard

rustic vale
#

Albiet

lean timber
#

ferocious guard on beo is nice

#

i like

rustic vale
#

4 hp hp bar

signal aspen
#

gimme some of that cursed cursed slash

raw herald
#

Repulse repulse shot

#

🗿

warm nimbus
#

ugh

rustic vale
#

I want double ferocious guard

signal aspen
#

empowering empowering flight

rustic vale
#

flurry flurry fire

warm nimbus
#

explosive explosive return

signal aspen
#

spread spread fire

#

seeking seeking fire

lean timber
warm nimbus
#

bruh what

signal aspen
#

eternal eternal chamber

warm nimbus
#

lmao larger infinities

signal aspen
#

heavy heavy knuckle

#

colossus colossus knuckle

rustic vale
#

rolling rolling knuckle

warm nimbus
#

breaching breaching cross

#

aka armor obliterator

rustic vale
#

long long knuckle

raw herald
warm nimbus
#

only works on zag rail

patent mesa
#

unironically triple triple bomb would be probably the strongest

warm nimbus
#

but it makes each of your bullets into another shotgun

patent mesa
#

one of the strongest that is

rustic vale
warm nimbus
patent mesa
#

:(

#

all the homies hate clockets

raw herald
#

What about dashing dashing flight

warm nimbus
#

all the homies love clockets

#

clockets trivializes em4 lmfao

patent mesa
#

clockets bad

warm nimbus
#

ok maybe not trivializes

patent mesa
#

hazard >>>

signal aspen
raw herald
#

3% 😂

rustic vale
#

Greatest consecration

warm nimbus
#

dude i legit get clockets 80% of my eris runs

#

im not even kidding

patent mesa
#

cheat engine

signal aspen
patent mesa
#

delta > clockets

rustic vale
signal aspen
patent mesa
#

no I'm not that dumb

rustic vale
#

Just cover the map with your special

patent mesa
#

I promise I force rocket

warm nimbus
#

ok good

raw herald
#

I’ve started forcing seeking

patent mesa
#

gamer

warm nimbus
#

hmm

#

questionable

signal aspen
#

i do that on hestia

#

+15 damage is insane

raw herald
#

That +10% damage is really something

patent mesa
#

if it was +10% base it would be kinda cool tbh

rustic vale
#

Hoarding hoarding slash

warm nimbus
#

dude legit though seeking fire legit does nothing

raw herald
#

Legit

signal aspen
#

yeah legit though

patent mesa
#

before I learned how to turn off attack at cursor I kinda liked it on hestia

warm nimbus
#

its the most does nothing hammer in the entire game

#

like legit tho

patent mesa
#

it slightly homes in on empowered shot

rustic vale
#

triple edge

warm nimbus
#

legitimately

signal aspen
raw herald
#

What about flaring spin

patent mesa
signal aspen
#

it does that?

raw herald
patent mesa
#

I swear it does

signal aspen
#

by two inches maybe

warm nimbus
#

i thought it didnt affect empowered shots

raw herald
#

Hey 2 inches is a lot

patent mesa
#

I'd say it's not unnoticeable

warm nimbus
#

then again i dont play hestia

signal aspen
patent mesa
#

but since on hestia you should be hitting 100% of your shots it's irrelevant

patent mesa
signal aspen
#

gettin sturdy wit it 💪 🥶

raw herald
#

swagreus

lean timber
warm nimbus
#

???

patent mesa
#

lmao

signal aspen
#

ayo

warm nimbus
#

im going to clocket em4 hades in the face some more

#

its therapeutic

patent mesa
#

cheat engine

#

I bet your save also has red RD

lean timber
#

i feel like seeking fire on gy is a little bit of a cheat code because the arrows cause stun, so each hit of the spin causes an arrow which keeps them stunlocked almost long enough to get another spin off

#

with quick spin, of course

signal aspen
patent mesa
#

I bet it has red RD with hyper and red haste

signal aspen
#

thats like 500% damage

patent mesa
#

and 5 ichors

warm nimbus
patent mesa
#

woe is you

warm nimbus
#

and hyper sprint

patent mesa
#

only purple reflex

warm nimbus
#

no rd though 😔

rustic vale
warm nimbus
#

wait i feel like something there is wrong

rustic vale
#

Speed is multiplicative right?

warm nimbus
#

yeah i suppose

rustic vale
#

Red haste is 50%

warm nimbus
#

wait its only 200% bonus movement speed with that though

rustic vale
#

Hyper sprint is +100%

warm nimbus
#

so its actually 200%*1.25=250% bonus damage

#

so almost nothing

patent mesa
#

true

#

RD sucks don't buy it

warm nimbus
#

yeah

rustic vale
#

125% * 2(hypersprint) * 1.5(red haste)= 375%

warm nimbus
#

rd is a hoax invented by big hermes to sell you more hyper sprint

patent mesa
lean timber
patent mesa
#

movement speed is 3x which is +200%

rustic vale
#

hmm

warm nimbus
#

ye

rustic vale
#

I guess so

warm nimbus
#

imagine ichors on that though lol

patent mesa
#

and bouldy +10% speed

warm nimbus
#

anyway yo just beat em4 fo2 and i only got hit like 7 times

#

gaming

lean timber
#

for the potential rush delivery has it should be considered a legendary

#

gaming!

rustic vale
warm nimbus
#

bouldy boons are my fav

patent mesa
#

not even acorn charges

warm nimbus
#

wow

#

impressive

#

and also a complete lie

patent mesa
#

nope that's facts

warm nimbus
#

hmmm

patent mesa
#

I hitless 50 heat all the time

rustic vale
#

They’ve never played FO2

lean timber
#

i've never played fo2

warm nimbus
lean timber
#

i do fo1 a lot but never done fo2 except once as a joke

rustic vale
#

A joke to whom?

lean timber
#

me

patent mesa
#

then you can start to become as good as me

rustic vale
#

Gilgamesh ME 😍

patent mesa
#

gilgy 🤮

warm nimbus
#

anyway clockets feels like cheating

#

you should not be able to just hang around dodging stuff then shotgun something in the face for 3000 damage

rustic vale
#

Use guan-yu and never pick up centaur hearts because they don’t matter, you’re playing hitless

warm nimbus
#

if guan yu is so good then why does it reduce health

#

anyway time for some 50 heat attempts... this time with em4

warm nimbus
#

nah im doing ri3 instead

#

i decided itd be easier

signal aspen
#

Fo0 50 dusa

#

Best pact

warm nimbus
#

idk what youre talking about

#

anyway sadly my 50 is going to be cf2 not gaming 😔

#

if i dont get pat i am absolutely screwed though lmfao

slim geyser
warm nimbus
#

lol ok i forgot about uc and had to sell lvl 3 epic jolted 🤪

slim geyser
#

Mood

#

only take uc if you have good boon permanence lmao

mint coral
#

Why is your shackle lvl 1

warm nimbus
#

because i have no reason to use it

rustic vale
lean timber
#

so just found something i never knew before. took the flayed curse (special damage), but did not get punished for using dash-upper on fists

#

but it still uses your special boons

warm nimbus
# rustic vale How did that happen? Mod? Glitch?

if you put your casts into an skelly and then switch to hera, the casts stay in skelly but you get new casts. if you keep putting them into skelly you can swap to beo and then load all of the casts in as they pop out

lean timber
#

w h a t

warm nimbus
#

yep

rustic vale
#

Makes sense

lean timber
#

ah yes, entirely intuitive

#

i do that every time i practice on skelly!

latent moon
#

if only you could go into a run with 12 casts

rustic vale
#

Farm free casts

lean timber
#

i'm witnessing the theseus discord arc

#

this is genuinely kind of upsetting

rustic vale
#

Theseus mad at asterius?

lean timber
#

yeah

rustic vale
#

Can’t believe he got mad at asterius

#

Asterius is literally so cool

#

Asterius should be on team zag

lean timber
#

asterius is one of my favorites

brisk trail
#

hey guys so I got the renovator fate for dusa so do I need to buy everything or just a certain amount? also if you use igneous Eden and give it tempest strike you literally have the worlds deadliest super soaker and you can not change my mind

rustic vale
#

uhh

lean timber
#

i'm lmaoing

rustic vale
#

igneous eden?

#

is that a specific lucifier hammer?

#

the only one I care about on] super soaker is eternal chamber to be honest

lean timber
#

now i can't tell who's trolling who

brisk trail
#

but no spoilers

warm nimbus
rustic vale
#

oh

#

they're talking about lucifer? just call it lucifer

#

it's not new player channel

lean timber
#

igneus eden is the name of the rail under the aspect of lucifer

rustic vale
#

plus who tf is even gonna understand any of this conversation without the aspect unlocked

brisk trail
rustic vale
#

but yes tempest strike lucifer has it's own speedrunning category called "super soaker"

#

you want sea storm on it

brisk trail
#

no way

rustic vale
#

I'm not joking

onyx linden
#

Thoughs shield enemies anger me because i cant just spam attack and need to actually use my brain

short glen
#

Mood

analog plover
#

F them

#

Frick

lean timber
#

kamikaze cats...? the flamewheels? little sparky chariots that make weird meowing noises?

glacial briar
#

Kamikaze catszaglol zaglol zaglol

meager tiger
#

Any tips for EM1?

meager tiger
sand kestrel
#

should i get administrative privilege or contractors desk deluxe or rod of fishing

sinful swift
#

hi

gray apex
#

Dont bother attacking

#

Because you will take damage

meager tiger
#

They run out after some time right?

gray apex
thorny mirage
#

You stop seeing new gods in your pool at 4, right?

strange skiff
#

Yeah

#

Although hermes is separate

meager tiger
#

And chaos too

lost ermine
#

it's fitting how Distant Memory is a great name for an album/single but is the one of the worst keepsakes in game

south mountain
#

when you spot the infernal hoard right after clicking the door to the next zone

pastel monolith
#

i finaly got unseen one rank!! 💅

lost ermine
#

congrats

lost ermine
lost ermine
#

what's infernal hoard

south mountain
#

hot

#

contains items

#

pretty self explanatory

lost ermine
#

OH THAT

#

haven't touched one in months since i've started to speedrun this game

south mountain
#

oh I misremembered

#

I just unlocked the archives

#

I died 14 times then I escaped on my 15th attempt

#

since then I've only lost once

#

so 15 losses 12 wins, almost at 50% winrate now 😄 (and 92.3% winrate since first clear)

#

kinda funny how when it clicks it clicks

lost ermine
#

what

#

that's really impressive

#

most people escape 30+ attempts into the game

#

what aspect did you use for your first escape

south mountain
#

aspect of chaos on shield

#

but it wasn't upgraded at all

#

it was just 2 throws

#

so it might as well have been aspectless 😅

lost ermine
#

did you just beat the game with the worst aspect in the game on your 15th attempt

pastel monolith
#

shield plus ares special is how i got my first escape at 52 attempts lol.. i would have escaped earlier im sure but right before the last boss i got a horrible dup boon that ruined my crystal beams lol

pastel monolith
#

took me forever to get the hang of this game

south mountain
#

I think it's very underrated

lost ermine
south mountain
#

when stuff hits the fan ruthless reflex is p much always up and gives 50% dodge (halving incoming dmg) and 50% inc dmg

south mountain
#

and besides what do you need extra dashes for

lost ermine
#

sword

#

all of sword's dps comes from dash strikes

#

especially nem and zagS

grim star
#

This game RNG to get the platinum is frustrating wow

somber rapids
#

I just had the worst luck ever running stygian

grim star
#

Max'ed my Keep-sakes which is supposed to be the longest trophy. And I keep talking to everyone and going down to petroclus to get the quest but he never give it to me. Every single character in the game is maxed out.

somber rapids
#

not a single chaos gate, no ligths of ixion or casts in the wells either

pastel monolith
# lost ermine cold embrace moment

this was my first time ever seeing that boon and ive hated it ever since lol.. i should try it again now that im actually ok at the game

lost ermine
lost ermine
somber rapids
#

if I was running on any heat I wouldve reset

lost ermine
#

heat level?

somber rapids
#

0 heat just casually playing a bit

pastel monolith
#

ya it looks like it could be ok if combined with that boonbwhere u cast gets backstab , and maybe flurry cast so its easy to drop them all at once.

buoyant mirage
#

Hello
In order to complete "denizens of the deep" , should I keep the fish with me and not give it to Chef

#

until i caught 25 fish

grim star
#

No u good sell them

lost ermine
buoyant mirage
lost ermine
buoyant mirage
pastel monolith
#

its fun to save up a ton of fish and give them all at once.. fun to me for some reason lol

lost ermine
#

there's also a poseidon legendary that can help you out so you might want to go for that in runs

buoyant mirage
#

Yes

#

I got the legendary

#

Its helping me with fishing

#

just caught a Flameater

grim star
# buoyant mirage Thanks

If you go for platinum make sure to stop to every exclamation points every run because they will drain your patience later on

buoyant mirage
#

Haha, noted

lost ermine
#

lmao i forgot this is pg 13 server

#

😔

#

i need to finish story someday, totally didn't ditch it to speedrun hades on another file

pastel monolith
#

lol im always too impatient to pay attention to the story

lost ermine
#

speedrunner mindset right there

pastel monolith
#

luckily i can read fast so I still get most of it haha also i watch ppl play it on lline a lot and they usualy dont skip dialog

#

ya I think getting better at speedrunning is gona be my next goal

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im jealous of ppl who can get under 10m igt consistently when I only did it once and barely

somber rapids
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now got chaos and the cast in room 1 the patience has paid

pastel monolith
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nice

somber kiln
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Does my game save even tho i play offline?

pastel monolith
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yeah

somber kiln
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Aight aigh ty

manic bobcat
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Yeah but you need to buy an Offline Save Micro Transactions Pack for $2.99 for 3 saving slots.
Make sure to subscribe to the Olympian Status Pack at $4.99 a month to receive your weekly Titan Blood and daily affinity with your favorite character.
Thank you!

pastel monolith
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yesterday i somehow got family favorites up to 40% i got 4 different gods in tartarus and then just keps using keepsakes to get other ones

manic bobcat
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You can get all 8

pastel monolith
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hows that possible