Dem + Aphro without even collecting any of their boons
#h1-discussion
past gate
Nice
How does a max slowed enemy look?
Like, if you were to stack chill, abyssal blood, and any other slow effects like targetting or whatever
Can you immobilize enemies?
past gate
Btw this slow is only move speed, not attack speed, right?
high island
Says speed, not movement speed.
slim geyser
does anyone have overall tips on not being painfully slow/bad with beo actually
twin thistle
well id watch speedrunners
slim geyser
start your bullrushs/charged shots after dash striking
oh thank you
slim geyser
well id watch speedrunners
thats a good idea
gray apex
or high heaters
high island
does anyone have overall tips on not being painfully slow/bad with beo actually
Aside from what's already been said, you wanna dash to the enemies first and then quick-release your Dragon-Rush from point-blank. So you don't waste a lot of time charging your Dragon-Rushes.
slim geyser
kk
high island
If you play on pad, rebind Cast to a shoulder button if you haven't already done that.
slim geyser
pad?
high island
Gamepad.
high island
Most common rebind is L1/LB for Cast on Beowulf and Hera.
Don't load more bloodstones than you need to kill.
slim geyser
wait so do you think you could get a picture of the best key-bind for beo
high island
Most common is just default controls except Cast on LB/L1.
manic bobcat
attack on should buttons, pretend you are playing dank soul
high island
Usually you want at least 1 bloodstone to always be loaded, and then you load more as needed. You can load bloodstones mid-charge and mid-rush. You can even pick up bloodstones with your Dragon-Rush or Bull-Rush and immediately load them.
strong ridge
yep
gray apex
Trippy very highroll build yea
high island
Yeah, get that actors cast. 
crude surge
gray apex
But the damage is juicy once you get it
mint coral
trippy slow early game and bullies late game if it goes right
crude surge
Bullying 
mint coral
there is something so satisfying about a decent trippy flare build lmao
and great builds are just dumb
gray apex
Yea if you get all the pieces you kinda have routed tier damage
Ready to instaphase anything
mint coral
can kill dad before winter harvest procs lmao
crude surge
subtle coral
i remember saying i cant beat hades not too long ago and now i have a 2 clear streak
crude surge
Nice!
gray apex
That sure is some damage
crude surge
Beautiful
proud pilot
omg nice ^^
mint coral
i love how i eated half of that laser attack lmao
dull niche
dio beo 😩
reef zodiac
Love Dio Beo
reef zodiac
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/942263189599563816/202...
Beautiful
mint coral
and if anyone asking why drunken strike, blackout high rolling that went wrong
reef zodiac
Yeah I’ve been there
gray apex
Dio beo is nice and all until you see how many resets it takes to get one run
reef zodiac
Optimal is not important, just max cast damage
reef zodiac
Dio beo is nice and all until you see how many resets it takes to get one run <:...
Nah
mint coral
il never speedrun dio beo
slim geyser
oh yeah btw quitting before the choice saves resets things like hammer/boon choices right (outside of the first one)
reef zodiac
You can get a decent casual Dio Beo run first try
mint coral
is just my "no thoughts, head empty" type of run
reef zodiac
Same
high island
That's any Beowulf run.
dull niche
unmodded dio beo sub7 many months ago burned me out of beowulf for a while lol
gray apex
I mean you do need 2 gods and a cast
dull niche
that was pain
gray apex
That’s a lot
reef zodiac
By far my favorite casual run
mint coral
i enjoy drunk eris a lot too for some reason
gray apex
I mean you do need 2 gods and a cast
And a hammer
reef zodiac
Yeah trying to do trippy flare at a moderately high level would not be fun. I just like the pom bug a lot
dull niche
probably one of the most fun builds in the game once it gets going tho
reef zodiac
Totally
mint coral
200 dmg cast as soon you get one(1) pom lmao
reef zodiac
Plus, no build lets me get as excited for a pom as Dio Beo
high island
Doesn't even inflict Weak.
reef zodiac
mint coral
just run abyssal blood for a darkness made weak
gray apex
high island
crude surge
Who needs weak if all the enemies are dead
high island
They're all dead. That's why they're in the underworld.
polar quail
thats why they keep coming back
mint coral
the satyrs are also dead or nah?
polar quail
its an endless cycle... they're trapped. there's no escape
mint coral
thats the one i never remember
mint coral
ty for killing tony vermin for me
high island
The Temple of Styx is still Hades's domain, but it's on the surface.
high island
Yeah, for Lady Aphrodite. 
mint coral
nah the game works by Amir personally controlling each run
if it wants you will get Tony
high island
Amir.
mint coral
oop
polar quail
controlling all those games at once must take a lot of work
does this mean hes spying on all hades players?
crude surge
What did you not read the terms and conditions 
manic bobcat
I watched Amir and Greg stream their development of the game this one time. They have a spreadsheet of every time that happens. In that stream, they broke into a maniacal laughter as they watch a player die after not being able to get their Duos and Legendary. They said they keep a spreadsheet of every crossed out Duos and Legendary, make sure it is up to date and check it every day. They have it pinned as a memo in the middle of the office with info to keep morale up.
signal aspen
Bro this is like the 5th time you've copy and pasted this
manic bobcat
idc
signal aspen
Nice
manic bobcat
would you like the emojified version better?
signal aspen
Yeah
gray apex
the uwu version
devout terrace
im trying to write the uwu version and my brain is melting
gray apex
Lmao
manic bobcat
there is an uwu bot somewhere on the internet
if you look hard enough (like page 1 of google)
slim geyser
i used to ask “what did amir did to you” until i attempted speedrunning
now i understand
manic bobcat
i wonder what's the next game
chrome wharf
I watched Amiw and Gweg stweam theiw devewopment ;;w;; of the x3 game this onye time. They have a spweadsheet of evewy time that happens. In that stweam, they bwoke into a manyiacaw waughtew as they watch a pwayew die aftew nyot being abwe to get theiw Duos and Wegendawy. They said they kweep a spweadsheet of evewy cwossed out Duos and Wegendawy, make suwe it is up to date and check it evewy day. They have it pinnyed as a memo in the middwe of the x3 office with info t-to keep mowawe up.
lost widget
I've beat heat 2 and am still missing the keepsake at the very end. Is this a secret?
mint coral
not entirely a secret, just keep playing
manic bobcat
gaming journalism
at least they did some research and actually gave some techs
but why are RTA and IGT tips mixed in together
lost widget
gaming journalism
Still not as shameful as the sekiro easy mode debacle
Or cuphead lol
devout terrace
https://www.thegamer.com/hades-best-speedrun-tips/
what
manic bobcat
yeah i mean there are some good (albeit basic) tips like pausing timer, count chamber, etc.
but they also confuses IGT and RTA strats
devout terrace
"Memorize What Boons Are Required For Other Boons To Appear" why
theres the codex lol
manic bobcat
i mean in an RTA run you probably dont want to look up codex midrun
devout terrace
"If Trove Rooms Are Annoying, Use The Tight Deadline Heat Option" ?????????????????????????
manic bobcat
now that's the problem
devout terrace
do they mean survival
devout terrace
yeah
manic bobcat
you don't on RTA
devout terrace
"Count Those Chambers To The Next Boss Fight" you can just check the chamber number lol
manic bobcat
but then they also tell you to pause timer which is an IGT strat
high island
Literally, how hard is it for video game "journalists" to actually interview somebody who has a clue.
crude surge
https://www.thegamer.com/hades-best-speedrun-tips/
oh no
devout terrace
vorime got interviewed once
manic bobcat
dont let me pull up the best keepsake list
crude surge
their op builds guide
dawn shard
Especially when it comes to speedrun strategies, it‘s not like the entire speedrunning community is trying everything to share what they know to others and have strategies well documented and easily accessible… oh wait that is exactly the case
devout terrace
https://youtu.be/_S5EmVDXSvo
hate this so much
devout terrace
Especially when it comes to speedrun strategies, it‘s not like the entire speedr...
🧐 yeah
high island
https://youtu.be/_S5EmVDXSvo
RT95
5 months ago
I'm gonna be honest, it seems like you've selected boon combinations completely randomly, completed one run on each aspect, and called it a day. There was only one good synergy you mentioned, and it was breaching cross on aspect of Demeter. The comment about Poseidon sword and exit wounds was close, but triple cast damage is just wrong in all ways. However, if you throw darts on a dartboard blindfolded, you'll eventually get a bullseye.
devout terrace
> RT95
> 5 months ago
> I'm gonna be honest, it seems like you've selected boon ...
crude surge
yep yep
high island
Stygian Blade: Aspect of Arthur
Poseidon and Zeus
Tempest Strike, Flood Shot, Thunder Dash, Sea Storm
crude surge
devout terrace
🗿
mint coral
was wondering if that vid was the one with sea storm arthur lmao
high island
To be fair, these builds are reasonable handicaps for Monthly Challenges.
crude surge
manic bobcat
To be fair, these builds are reasonable handicaps for Monthly Challenges.
lmao
crude surge
Using Duo Boons or Legendary Boons is kind of mandatory for a decent speedrun.
objection
no it is not
manic bobcat
Thekidisalright
6 months ago
Generic “boss guides” like this always don’t make much sense, you tell people how to beat the final boss with different aspects of the weapon but the reality is, people who have yet to beat the final boss will not have enough titan blood to to get those weapons, most people who has yet to finish the game would probably have only 6 titan blood from beating Meg with all the weapons, how would you expect them to have the maxed out tier 3 aspects weapons to deal with Hades? Build a guide and show how to use hammer and boons for the basic weapons to beat the final boss if you want to be useful instead.
chad comment
ViciousKiwi
6 months ago
just another [replace bot word bc bot] java diablo 2 clone redo lmao
another chad comment
high island
On a more positive note, the quality of Hades guides out there has increased a ton since Early Access when there was pretty much only Haelian's guides and everything else was bad.
slim geyser
what even
reef zodiac
crude surge
Troves:Shows survival, Tight deadline:what does this have to do with troves, FROST STRIKE AND PLUME
and they don't have the igt turned on
slim geyser
also wouldnt there be a call slot by then
crude surge
how do they not have one
slim geyser
probably
reef zodiac
Lmao
mint coral
how did you reach dad and not unlock calls by then lmao
reef zodiac
https://www.thegamer.com/hades-megaera-boss-battle-worst/
Weird opinion
crude surge
I hate the gamer
manic bobcat
I WILL NOT STAND FOR THE SLANDER FOR SECOND BEST GIRL IN THE GAME
slim geyser
I READ THAT OML ITS B A D
manic bobcat
honestly im laughing reading this
slim geyser
i prefer tisiphone but cmon :(
rich gulch
Worst boss battle is sneak. Pisses me off that guy
manic bobcat
i mean it's subjective and it's not a serious article but come one, this is a weird ass take
reef zodiac
Meg is a good bossfight
crude surge
there are still a lot of variables in Hades that might require you to switch up Zag’s build on the fly.
reef zodiac
Lmao
crude surge
Figure Out A Build & Stick To It
slim geyser
“the bone hydra is a phenomenal battle”
its very hard to stand there and attack guys
very impressive
manic bobcat
I hate the gamer
I look them up for "guides" on Darkest Dungeon, Risk of Rain 2, and Hades
so far, they failed to deliver 3/3
reef zodiac
“the bone hydra is a phenomenal battle”
its very hard to stand there and attack ...
Eww what
It’s not even that bad of a fight but like
slim geyser
what even is this paragraph
reef zodiac
It’s definitely the worst boss (beside vermin) imo
slim geyser
The Bone Hydra is a phenomenal battle. I know the other people you fight are gods, but they’re still just people. The Bone Hydra is an unfeeling snake made of cold, sharp bone. Gods fighting gods is boring - it’s a level playing field. But no matter who you are, taking on the Bone Hydra is an impressive feat. Even on a technical level, the Bone Hydra fight is wonderful. It’s not a smart creature, and has gotten along in (the after) life by simply being fearsome. That means it does not employ any evasive tactics or quick thinking - it just stands there and fights you. Sure, it uses a shield sometimes so it’s not completely vulnerable, but it essentially tries to frighten you or kill you with its spiky talon-tentacles, all while screeching in your face. You could argue that it has less of an impact narratively than Megaera (or indeed, any of the bosses) but it’s important to see Zagreus going up against a beast of the underworld and not just a bunch of other people.
reef zodiac
Lmao what
mint coral
also Hades about Lernie "how could you, that hydra had a family"
dawn shard
So Theseus is a god by their standard? And Asterius too? Theseus: God of Boasting
manic bobcat
i do love Theseus though 😳
reef zodiac
Champions are a very well designed fight
dawn shard
Also this ignores everything about the game as a game that you experience in stages. Meg becomes easier the more you play yes, but she is also the first boss, she can‘t be so hard to beat that you wouldn‘t want to keep on trying while still being fun, and imo that balance is definitely struck, especially with the furies then switching and extreme Measures.
signal aspen
https://youtu.be/_S5EmVDXSvo
Oh god
dawn shard
And yes Champions is a very well designed fight, frustrating to beat, but motivating enough to try again for the satisfaction of it, as well as playwise having a balance between two enemies and their attack styles
mint coral
everytime we hate this game is when we go crazy with the heat
crude surge
David Mills
5 months ago
I wish hades was more like this game called other world legendsKevin Scarpitti
2 months ago
Sounds like mobile trash
idk why I find this funny lol
dawn shard
They are so right though, it really sound like that…
And turns out it kind of is, idk if it is trash, but it is mobile
manic bobcat
> David Mills
> 5 months ago
> I wish hades was more like this game called other...
Hades is just a cheap diablo clone
celest shell
Is Poseidon's Aid agreed to be the best call?
mint coral
most fun to use but i think zeus is better
dawn shard
I prefer Artemis Aid or Aphro, I think it depends very much on what weapon you use
slim geyser
dio call best call imo
reef zodiac
Is Poseidon's Aid agreed to be the best call?
No
celest shell
The last 3 times I've beaten Hades, the last hit was by Aid
signal aspen
Ares best call don't @ me
high island
Anything that isn't Ares' Aid is good.
manic bobcat
@signal aspen
signal aspen
I hate you
mint coral
Ares best call don't @ me
Ares aid is a myth
reef zodiac
Zeus, Dio, and Pos are top 3 by a decent margin imo
manic bobcat
negative dps
crude surge
@signal aspen
reef zodiac
aphro aid is underrated tbh
*Overrated
slim geyser
idk maybe ive just seen too many people trash it
reef zodiac
I think Aphro aid is… very bad
manic bobcat
*Overrated
a certain someone intensifies
slim geyser
fair, i like it a lot
mint coral
i've seen most people adoring Aphro or Artemis aid
people just like the nuke of full calls
slim geyser
like i wouldnt go out of my way to get it but if its offered i might take it
crude surge
*Overrated
Nyaanyaa Mewmew is typing
dawn shard
I like it, it has decent damage and I think I just find the characters laughing and frolicking because of it too funny
reef zodiac
Better than Ares aid (most of the time), but it is a very bad boon that falls far behind every other aid beside Ares
high island
Aphrodite's Aid is amazing. Some people are not very skilled at using Aphrodite's Aid.
reef zodiac
Whatever you say
slim geyser
honestly i like using it primarily to charm asterius into attacking theseus
dawn shard
honestly i like using it primarily to charm asterius into attacking theseus
Me too!
reef zodiac
honestly i like using it primarily to charm asterius into attacking theseus
Make good use of those 1.2 seconds of charm
mint coral
just pom it
reef zodiac
Definitely don’t pom it 
high island
1.2 seconds is a lot.
slim geyser
overall id rank them:
- dio aid
- zeus aid
- athena aid
and the rest are.. somewhere besides ares aid which is last
signal aspen
Hades aid very nice at high heat
high island
Dionysus' Aid is one more step towards Smair than Zeus' Aid and Aphrodite's Aid.
reef zodiac
- Zeus
- Poseidon
- Dionysus
gap - Athena
small gap - Demeter
- Artemis
sizable gap - Aphrodite
- Ares
slim geyser
fair but id switch artemis and aphro
swift latch
^
reef zodiac
You get your I-frames faster
slim geyser
artemis is only good with full gauge anyway
reef zodiac
Because you only need 20%
slim geyser
eh
reef zodiac
Makes a difference
high island
Artemis' Aid is great with poms on it.
manic bobcat
artemis is only good with full gauge anyway
nah i spend artemis aid like free iframes
it's better than other aids because you have 20% to charge instead of 25% (for iframes)
swift latch
i like artemis with some of the god gauge synergies tho
I got a run with god gauge getting 1% per second and then the more attack damage on use and dodge chance on use so it was basically just a considerable constant buff
reef zodiac
nah i spend artemis aid like free iframes
Most of the time it’s i-frames, sometimes it a nuke
mint coral
i just vibe with the calls, some will do more than others but free i frames/2nd wind/billowing always nice
crude surge
1:Zeus
2:Athena
3:Dio
4:Pos
5:Aphro
6:Arty
7:Dem
8:
9:
10:
11:
12:
13:Ares
manic bobcat
2: you cannot rank god aids
1: whatever you like i guess
slim geyser
2: you cannot rank god aids
1: whatever you like i guess
- ares aid
reef zodiac
2: you cannot rank god aids
1: whatever you like i guess
Too late, already did
swift latch
poseidon is my favorie though
crude surge
Athena > Zeus in high heat
mint coral
i just vibe with the calls, some will do more than others but free i frames/2nd ...
*except Ares
twin thistle
damage gud
crude surge
comf
twin thistle
ebic dio call stonks
reef zodiac
I prefer Athena over Zeus on a few weapons
mint coral
poseidon is my favorie though
poseidon aid + rip current is lovely
crude surge
both very good
slim geyser
ebic dio call stonks
fact
reef zodiac
I prefer Athena over Zeus on a few weapons
Rama is one of them
swift latch
what is your guys' opinion on ||aspect of gilgamesh||
reef zodiac
Bad
mint coral
ew
slim geyser
bad
manic bobcat
Gigameh
slim geyser
+dashes good rest bad
high island
Why are you asking only the guys?
signal aspen
what is your guys' opinion on ||aspect of gilgamesh||
Ass
swift latch
Why are you asking only the guys? <:courte5Wut:859131244670222357>
guys is gender neutral
high island
No, it's not.
manic bobcat
Why are you asking only the guys? <:courte5Wut:859131244670222357>
bc there is no girl on the internet /s
slim geyser
eh plenty of people use it as gender neutral ¯_(ツ)_/¯
dawn shard
What‘s the best aspect for the weapon then?
mint coral
what is your guys' opinion on ||aspect of gilgamesh||
btw spoilers allowed here
slim geyser
talos or demeter
reef zodiac
What‘s the best aspect for the weapon then?
Demeter by far
slim geyser
talos fun
manic bobcat
What‘s the best aspect for the weapon then?
Demeter
swift latch
btw spoilers allowed here
oh ok cool thanks
slim geyser
demeter good
reef zodiac
Talos is actually abysmal
slim geyser
wrong
reef zodiac
I prefer Gil to Talos
swift latch
Talos for enjoying myself but demeter for murder
slim geyser
cannot play ping pong with demeter
signal aspen
What‘s the best aspect for the weapon then?
Potato will say Talos, everyone else will say Demeter
reef zodiac
I prefer Zag fists to Talos
manic bobcat
Demeter > Zag > Talost > Gigameh
slim geyser
probably right
mint coral
Potato will say Talos, everyone else will say Demeter
*Bestlos
reef zodiac
Demeter >>> Zag > Gil > Talos
crude surge
gilgameh
slim geyser
demeter > talos > zag > meh
signal aspen
Gil > Talos
reef zodiac
I said it
crude surge
Dem
Zag
Bestlos
Gilga
manic bobcat
you typed it
slim geyser
cannot play ping pong with gilgameh
signal aspen
Talos is kinda bad, but not that bad
crude surge
*Bestlos <:zagluv:687002515069468715>
YES
reef zodiac
you typed it
I also said it out loud
swift latch
i think gilgamesh is cool but i haven't tried it in a run yet
it just seems like it takes the attack speed away from the weapon that i loved mainly for attack speed
mint coral
cannot play ping pong with gilgameh
tidal dash and wall slam abuse
dawn shard
Hm, I‘m really bad with the fistycuffs, but I‘m gonna try to get better with Demeter
manic bobcat
I also said it out loud
i didnt hear it so it doesn't count
reef zodiac
cannot play ping pong with gilgameh
You can actually
manic bobcat
Hm, I‘m really bad with the fistycuffs, but I‘m gonna try to get better with Dem...
git gud
reef zodiac
You can actually
Except on Gil it’s actually optimal where on Talos it’s terrible
slim geyser
why do you feel the need to hate on bestlos :(
manic bobcat
i mean what do you even build on Gigameh?
mint coral
talos ping pong is fun till you wonder where is your boss dmg
reef zodiac
why do you feel the need to hate on bestlos :(
Only cuz it sucks
mint coral
merciful end yeah
signal aspen
ME or splash dash
crude surge
Both are bad but bestlos is less bad
mint coral
you still get quite of global dmg as risky at it is lmao
reef zodiac
i mean what do you even build on Gigameh?
Tidal dash and unbind my attack and special buttons
mint coral
+50% from ruthless (+25% from maim if you ever feel is worth the boost)
signal aspen
Tidal dash and unbind my attack and special buttons
But then you won't be able to apply maim
manic bobcat
i mean talost can be played like zag with the occasional debuff with special
so ig it's really Dem > Zag = Talost > Gigameh
crude surge
^
mint coral
oh yeah talos is a castpect
manic bobcat
oh yeah talos is a castpect
is castpect a thing now?
crude surge
gilg special is even slower
crude surge
don't use bestlos special lol
reef zodiac
Attack and special on Gil are so unsafe that I literally didn’t even use them for my 40 heat
crude surge
also you can cancel the special and still get the pull
swift latch
gilgamesh just plays like shield imo
but without invincibility
reef zodiac
don't use bestlos special lol
I don’t, but not being able to hit breakpoints with it in Tartarus hurts my speed at lot
crude surge
obligitory:
reef zodiac
gilgamesh just plays like shield imo
but without invincibility
Not at all
All I do is hold dash
swift latch
ig the attack feels the same but im on my first run with it rn
reef zodiac
I don’t do anything close to that on shields
slim geyser
gilga is just dash only
mint coral
i remember someone in the speedrun server "so many techs for dmg combos as talos only to do what Dem can do"
crude surge
👏 25 👏 isn't 👏 enough 👏 to 👏 kill 👏 a 👏 numbskull 👏
mint coral
👏 25 👏 isn't 👏 enough 👏 to 👏 kill 👏 a 👏 numbskull 👏
20*
and that is without any buff at all
crude surge
25 is gilga
mint coral
gilga dash strike is 20 lol
mint coral
i literally just tested lmao
high island
It's 20.
mint coral
fiery presence is 35 (no high confidence) then drops to 20
crude surge
swift latch
Well i got epic tidal dash on gilgamesh as my first boon so im doing good so far lol
high island
That's High Confidence.
crude surge
o
signal aspen
idiot
crude surge
well the quote is 25
crude surge
yeah
reef zodiac
Well i got epic tidal dash on gilgamesh as my first boon so im doing good so far...
Now unbind attack and special
twin thistle
aspect of *insert dash boon*
signal aspen
aspect of hunters dash
mint coral
Aspect of mistral dash
slim geyser
aspect of lightning reflexes
slim geyser
eh fair
raw herald
Aspect of strong drink
mint coral
strong drink the dash boon
signal aspen
aspect of huge catch
crude surge
aspect of TITAN TOPPLER
mint coral
was gonna say that
raw herald
Aspect of Megaera
reef zodiac
I just had a regrettable idea
slim geyser
aspect of nasty dash
reef zodiac
Divine Dash only run
mint coral
divine dash only?
reef zodiac
Yep
raw herald
It sucks
reef zodiac
I know
raw herald
I tried it once and died to dad at 26 mins
reef zodiac
But I’d get real good at deflecting
crude surge
parrying in hades the video game
raw herald
Imagine
mint coral
wait and its on zag bow
signal aspen
nice
crude surge
lol
reef zodiac
Why
mint coral
gonna assume they somehow dont have gilga
reef zodiac
Great to know the boon actually has a notable impact
You sure about that, random commenter?
polar quail
That’s one way to get slow and steady
mint coral
surely gilga is gonna make a difference right
and probably FO just for a bit faster reflects lmao
reef zodiac
Those would make a big difference, yeah
crude surge
Yeah
twin thistle
just need heroic brilliant riposte
hyperdelivery, epic greatest reflex, a billion ichors, heroic ddash and brilliant riposte, pp and hunters mark
reef zodiac
Oh yeah rarity makes a huge difference for riposte
slim geyser
decided i will do a All The Demeter run, mostly because i dont like her and want a challenge
slim geyser
guess
lone kernel
signal aspen
high island
Why would you hate Lady Demeter?
slim geyser
dont like her boons
mighty nebula
fair enough
slim geyser
she annoys me overall
mighty nebula
i like her design
slim geyser
i like her story and design a lot
high island
Killing Freeze gud.
slim geyser
and i like mythological demeter
high island
Killing Freeze gud.
mighty nebula
||i would had liked if she changed after the reunion though||
high island
Snow Burst gud.
slim geyser
okay tair
high island
Chill gud.
slim geyser
fair
mighty nebula
kindasad
high island
You don't think Chill is gud?
high island
Yeah.
mighty nebula
what happens?
signal aspen
mighty nebula
o
slim geyser
this run is not going well so far
polar quail
how much does it take to get asterius to leave anyway? for some reason it feels like sometimes he takes longer to leave
slim geyser
might die reset and see if the another seed is better
signal aspen
how much does it take to get asterius to leave anyway? for some reason it feels ...
pretty sure he leaves at 20% health
slim geyser
because i am getting a lot of distinctly not demeter boons
but we’ll keep going and see ig
polar quail
demeter inferiority
slim geyser
okay yeah i might reset
wonder if switching on my very low level fated authorrity would be good
lets reset
reef zodiac
Demeter has two good boons.
reef zodiac
https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/exzme8/i_managed_to_kill_asterius...
Oh damn I’ve never even seen that before
That’s as good as him tripping and hitting his head on the door
polar quail
it would be neat if the game only let theseus appear when that happened
in the boss fight
polar quail
demeter stinky
slim geyser
chill: for the run player is slowed by 40%, effect can stack up to 10 times
reef zodiac
Demeter doesn’t exactly “do damage”.
It’s about sending a message
slim geyser
my god this run is terrible
high island
She does decent damage.
high island
Do you have Privileged Status?
slim geyser
yeah i do
its more
mostly demeter
ill take other gods for duos
but purge them afterwards
polar quail
demeter exists to make other gods look better in comparison
slim geyser
unless i get real lucky in elysium i dojt think i can pull this run off
high island
Purging all the other boons is some serious self-sabotage.
slim geyser
eh i did want the challenge
might reset and try and get better rng
because this is bad
reef zodiac
Her boons are good.
Two of them
slim geyser
died to asterius and then a spearman
what all/mostly one god run should i try next
maybe all posideon with pos sword
crude surge
Dem is a good support god
you don't build around her but her boons just enhance your build
polar quail
do all zeus
signal aspen
do boonless
polar quail
but you did trash god now you have to do the best one
slim geyser
eh
i think ill do posideon, dio, try demeter again, and then zeus
aphro comes directly after i unlock her themr
mint coral
Dio only sounds boring
slim geyser
yeahh
slim geyser
yeah
theres no aspect of dio
its slow but posideon is going significantly better
my god im havi insane fated authority luck
HELL YEAH POS LEGEND BABYYY
reef zodiac
And Zeus with Zeus is just optimal
fast willow
Two of them
winter harvest is not bad
slim geyser
can non end purging pools only show up in asphodel or smth
chrome wharf
I've seen them in Ely and Stix
high island
Two of them
Bruh.
reef zodiac
Lmao
slim geyser
my god this build is actually pretty great
posideon op
well
its amazing at clearing, worse with bossed
twin thistle
poseidon only basically: get ebic tidal dash and spam poms on it and grab rupture
mint coral
And breaking wave for fun
ripe otter
Hey, just a random question, what trinket do y’all think works the best on boonless? Me personally it’s gotta be bone hourglass cause you can just stack all the way up on well items to cope with not having boons
high island
Shackle, yeah.
slim geyser
+100% damage with no boons
shattered shackle with boo less is basically a boon on its own
chrome wharf
Sheckle
Shickle
Shockle
slim geyser
shykle
mint coral
#bot-commands
quaint prawn
gracias
brisk trail
Is "high heat" less of an input spamming exercise, I'm considering returning to playing the game and I'd rather not bother if it's more of the same
gray apex
wdym
reef zodiac
You definitely can’t play high heat by just mashing buttons
But high heat does often require (or at least is made easier by) very fast inputs
But you could pick a weapon with slower inputs
Like Rama
There’s isn’t really any mashing on Rama
But if you want to play Hestia at like 50+, then yeah you’re probably gonna want to be pressing a lot of buttons extremely quickly
gray apex
Yea it's not really mashing
You have to be precise
The game is almost never button mashing
even if you're speedrunning
brisk trail
wdym
Hades has a lot of button mashing compared to other games of a similar genre not necessarily a bad thing it just comprises less deliberate inputs resulting in a combat system not too dependent on skill
At least on the standard difficulty
reef zodiac
??
Oh
Well 0 heat is free when you have experience
That’s why heat exists
But I do not agree that it’s not skill dependent
That’s very false
devout terrace
devout terrace
well you cant button mash so its more skill dependent lmao
brisk trail
Your opinion however inaccurate or not may still offer insight
brisk trail
Would you say there's a significant difference in how you engage the game through inputs on a higher difficulty?
devout terrace
of course
gray apex
yes
devout terrace
lemme give you an example
and
https://youtu.be/4NVEHc66Kns this fight
everything about these dad fights is completely different
all the strategies are completely different
the first one I just go for it and kill him in 30 seconds
the second one is over 6 minutes
that a lot more work being done, more precise inputs needed to just not die
aswell as the boss patterns being completely different
fast willow
even if you're speedrunning
looks like ive been playing eris wrong this whole time
btw is nem buff only on its attack or is it global crit chance
devout terrace
btw is nem buff only on its attack or is it global crit chance
just the attack
global crit would be overpowered lol
reef zodiac
Would you say there's a significant difference in how you engage the game throug...
If you think it’s button mashing, try 50 heat right now. No amount of spamming buttons will get you through that without learning the fights and how to play quickly and manage swarms of enemies
mint coral
looks like ive been playing eris wrong this whole time <:thanthink:6692460041425...
Eris moment
reef zodiac
It took me literally months of practice for my first 50 heat (which is admittedly way more time than for most people)
brisk trail
If you think it’s button mashing, try 50 heat right now. No amount of spamming b...
There was never a question about wether the game was very button mashy or required much skill. I wasn't asking for an opinion on that
raw herald
From first 50 heat attempt or first time playing the game?
brisk trail
But if you say a higher difficulty is more deliberate then I appreciate the help
reef zodiac
From first 50 heat attempt or first time playing the game?
I played for a while, got a few 32s, then quit. Came back like 5 months later, so I’m starting from when I returned and started grinding heat
devout terrace
But if you say a higher difficulty is more deliberate then I appreciate the help
I mean a lower one can also require you to be deliberate if your build is weak
reef zodiac
But if you say a higher difficulty is more deliberate then I appreciate the help
If you want it to feel less button mashy, play an aspect that doesn’t play like that
Like Rama for example
devout terrace
plays special only
mint coral
Is the hidden aspect of bow
reef zodiac
What weapon did you use
mint coral
*plays special only* <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
Something something special only way to use it copypasta
fast willow
just the attack
so for ME its not that much faster than zagsword?
though probably has a far better tart
brisk trail
I used every weapon but I believe I had the fists around the time I finished the game
devout terrace
though probably has a far better tart
^, better chaos scaling too
brisk trail
How long is an average run?
devout terrace
what was your first clear time
fast willow
depends on who you ask
brisk trail
It was on my 11th or 12th run I wasn't aware there was a time indicator
reef zodiac
I used every weapon but I believe I had the fists around the time I finished the...
Well that explains the mashing
Fists often feel like you’re just mashing
I also don’t entirely understand your issue
brisk trail
I had 12 runs by the time I finished and only used the fists for two of them
reef zodiac
Because you said that it’s not very skill based and is just mashing but then said “There was never a question about wether the game was very button mashy or required much skill”
gray apex
brisk trail
Because you said that it’s not very skill based and is just mashing but then sai...
Yes because it wasn't a question I know that it is
My question was if it was more deliberate on higher difficulties
reef zodiac
Yes because it wasn't a question I know that it is
It’s not though
Fast inputs does not mean mashing
brisk trail
Well I'm not interested in your opinion on that
fast willow
lol
brisk trail
I'm not here to start any arguments
gray apex
Nice
brisk trail
Just asking a question
reef zodiac
Bruh
fast willow
"so the game works this way right"
"no it doesnt"
"im not interested in your opinion"
gray apex
lmao
reef zodiac
Your entire argument is built on false pretenses
brisk trail
Maybe the way I phrased it is confusing to you, let me simplify; is the game MORE deliberate on "high heat" than it is on the standard difficulty
reef zodiac
I have played nearly a thousand hours in the game, including many speedruns and high heat runs. The game does require fast inputs at a high level, but that is not mashing. What it actually demands is a very fast ability to process information and make decisions very quickly
devout terrace
Maybe the way I phrased it is confusing to you, let me simplify; is the game MOR...
fast willow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/826053299525779456.gif?size=44&quality=lossles...
why do you have so many gifs of this guy but nodding in different directions/at different speeds
brisk trail
I have played nearly a thousand hours in the game, including many speedruns and ...
Well done but I didn't ask for your thoughts on that
reef zodiac
LMAO
devout terrace
why do you have so many gifs of this guy but nodding in different directions/at ...
(cat nod but washing machine)
reef zodiac
I didn’t ask to hear a since thing you’ve said. That’s not really how conversations work
gray apex
gray apex
the bot is gonna get you soon™️
brisk trail
I asked a question and that's all I'm interested in
devout terrace
and we answered
brisk trail
Good then don't start pointless arguments
reef zodiac
The pretenses that your question seemed to be based on are false
That’s like if I asked you: “why are you so stupid?” There is no answer that you would say. You would argue that the premise of my question is incorrect
brisk trail
Maybe the way I phrased it is confusing to you, let me simplify; is the game MOR...
Again it's a simple yes or no answer, if it isn't more deliberate then no if it is then yes
reef zodiac
I mean more difficultly requires greater skill… so yes? Obviously?
devout terrace
😲
reef zodiac
“If I make the game harder, will I have to be better in order to beat it?”
brisk trail
That's not the question, let me simplify even more
devout terrace
my braincells
reef zodiac
LMAO
signal aspen
tf is happening over here
fast willow
https://tenor.com/view/hades-game-hades-game-zagreus-guess-ill-die-gif-19123974
this is pretty good
brisk trail
I'm not asking about skill requirements. do you believe that you need to think about what your fingers press to make something happen in the game a lot more on "high heat" than on the standard difficulty
devout terrace
yes
signal aspen
bruh
devout terrace
..........................
brisk trail
I can't simplify any further
devout terrace
when did we ever talk about skill requirements
brisk trail
If you can't comprehend then that's unfortunate
brisk trail
I mean more difficultly requires greater skill… so yes? Obviously?
Right here
fast willow
very unfortunate
yeah
reef zodiac
If you can't comprehend then that's unfortunate
LMAO BRUH
How are you so not self aware
devout terrace
no way this is not a troll im dying
reef zodiac
I'm not asking about skill requirements. do you believe that you need to think a...
You are describing skill
gray apex
no way this is not a troll im dying
I literally died on this 40 heat run laughing at this
brisk trail
You are describing skill
I'm describing a method of engagement with the game
rich gulch
Skill in Hades means not missing your autos
devout terrace
🤡
fast willow
this is p funny
reef zodiac
I'm describing a method of engagement with the game
If you are blindly button mashing at low heat, that obviously will not work when you make the game harder. Are you kidding me
brisk trail
the ability to do something well; expertise - skill
brisk trail
If you are blindly button mashing at low heat, that obviously will not work when...
Not obviously
reef zodiac
And the way you’re communicating is so insanely condescending and narcissistic it’s actually painful
reef zodiac
Not obviously
Yes. Obviously.
fast willow
not to derail this incredible convo, but seeing unarmoured witches in say c3 does not reduce my chances of seeing them later in tart right
brisk trail
I was asking because I wasn't aware of if the game changed
devout terrace
im dazed and confused
fast willow
like i assume the game just rolls random enemies and doesnt care about the enemies you faced in previous chambers
brisk trail
Yes. Obviously.
It might be obvious to you because you've encountered it but if I'm asking it means I didn't posses that knowledge
Understand?
devout terrace
i
signal aspen
wait what
reef zodiac
Insane, I know
gray apex
Can you simplify that for me
reef zodiac
LMAO
reef zodiac
And before you say anything, “play better” means “think about your inputs” (obviously)
brisk trail
Button mashing is a valid combat system. Playing better doesn't necessarily entail less of it if that's the nature of the game
reef zodiac
Button mashing is not a combat system
It’s poor play
If you are not thinking about your inputs, you are playing poorly
signal aspen
i mean thats how i play hestia
reef zodiac
Yeah but you still think about your inputs
devout terrace
brisk trail
If you are not thinking about your inputs, you are playing poorly
Subjective opinion I'm not interested in arguing over
reef zodiac
It’s really not actually
signal aspen
LMAO
devout terrace
this is post ironic
brisk trail
Okay that aside..
devout terrace
Im gonna use a fighting game example
brisk trail
I was asking a question and you all were focusing on something completely irrelevant to my question
reef zodiac
Bruh
brisk trail
Completely*
reef zodiac
I’m gonna back out now
devout terrace
early on in low difficulties, you can usually just button mash and win anyway, but later on you have to actually learn combos to win against tougher opponments
reef zodiac
Because you’re just being ignorant at this point
devout terrace
you cant just button mash and expect to win at high difficulties
wide musk
early on in low difficulties, you can usually just button mash and win anyway, b...
button mashing is fun tbh
devout terrace
if the game allows that then it means it has really low depth and not a lot challenge or interesting mechanics
wide musk
probably not super effective but fun
brisk trail
you cant just button mash and expect to win at high difficulties
I appreciate your ability to understand unlike the rest of your peers
gray apex
lmao
reef zodiac
Are you genuinely not aware of how condescending and narcissistic you’re being? You have to be a little aware right?
mint coral
https://tenor.com/view/hades-game-hades-game-zagreus-guess-ill-die-gif-19123974
Btw source for this one? Is hilarious
raw herald
Button mashing is an awful way to play any weapon
Assuming you are literally mashing every button
Because of cancelling moves with other moves
fast willow
Are you genuinely not aware of how condescending and narcissistic you’re being? ...
doubt
polar quail
rich gulch
Btw source for this one? Is hilarious
Pulled it off Tenor gifs King. Typed in "Hades game" and voila!
dawn shard
I think the same artist of that gif has also a pretty funny Hypnos onw
polar quail
orpheus' epic eyeliner
past gate
I personally find it impressive how high Orpheus sings
Like, he sings in a higher octave than Eurydice and he's a guy
Also, the fact that someone had to sing that and probably break their vocal chords for this game, that's pretty nuts
rich gulch
So I remember correctly, he's voiced by Darren right?
dawn shard
Yeah
rich gulch
Mad respect. His Hymn to Zagreus is a personal favourite, though people will simp for In the Blood/Good Riddance duo more.
The ending to his Lament is fantastic also.
reef zodiac
Lament is my favorite
mint coral
Idk who he is
Darren is the compositor of supergiant games lol
dawn shard
Darren Korb is the music producer (is that the word) of basically all Supergiant games
signal aspen
So I remember correctly, he's voiced by Darren right?
darren voices orpheus's singing voice, skelly, and zagreus
past gate
For me, he's started singing the lament every time after I enter the house
I feel like I should be worried about how he's feeling or smth, tho he says nothing about it
mint coral
lament is such a good one
past gate
Orpheus doesn't just sing randomly when you enter the house, doesn't he?
reef zodiac
That’s what he does, yes
past gate
Oh, really?
dawn shard
Yes
mint coral
ye
past gate
I thought it was connected to his mood, which was connected to the story
reef zodiac
Lmao no
mint coral
i guess is somewhat related the first time after you gift him good riddance lol
rich gulch
Actually, some of my favourite tracks from the game are the bass ones you get after clearing the chamber, but they're not on the OST. Great for my adhd-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Eo6UMG8hg
dawn shard
Also Darren‘s voice lives in my mind rent free and is now the inner narrator of my life
mint coral
same but for Logan
dawn shard
Actually, some of my favourite tracks from the game are the bass ones you get af...
Oh yes THE BASS LINES slap so hard and I am so happy that someone else appreciates them
mint coral
dad/narrator/other supergiant games is such a good voice
rich gulch
Also Darren‘s voice lives in my mind rent free and is now the inner narrator of ...
Glad you like them too!
Also, funny how it's not Logan Cunnigham, the voice of the narrator.
Speaking of VA work, my favourite voice has to be of Lord Hades himself.
mint coral
The vid of all works of Logan in supergiant games is great
dawn shard
Oh yes definitely, you can really feel the emotion with Hades. But I really love Megs VA too, such a great choice for her honestly
rich gulch
They're all phenomenal. Andrew Marks was made for Hermes, I feel
dawn shard
Yeah absolutely
past gate
Hypnos is cool
mint coral
Hypnos is great
past gate
Tbh all of the voices feel like they really fit
rich gulch
As is Cyrus for Dionysus. Man, what's that boon line he has that goes something like "that's great, that's great, and this is for you" or something like that. He delivers that line in such a classy way.
past gate
Yeah
Dionysus talks in such a funny way, it's like if everything were one long sentence, it's really funny
Also pretty fitting
polar quail
hes just always drunk
past gate
Or whoever voices Alecto is pretty perfect too
polar quail
megs voice is super hot
dawn shard
Honestly what I love with Dionysus the most is that the voice work sounds like drunk rambling which makes so much sense and gives a lot of character
dawn shard
megs voice is super hot
Yes yes yes
past gate
And then there's tisiphone
dawn shard
The VA for Tis probably had a lot of fun, same for Charon
mint coral
Charon
past gate
Lmao
mint coral
tho thats Logan again lol
polar quail
imagine just being paid to breathe heavily
past gate
I saw a video about the sound effects of Celeste where the sound effects from one of the obstacles was someone yelling with their head in water. Literally
rich gulch
Bouldy's VA shouldn't be underestimated either.
dawn shard
I saw a video about the sound effects of Celeste where the sound effects from on...
Sound effects are an artform in themselves and it‘s so incredible how some sounds are produced for movies and games
past gate
Bouldy is the best character in this game
rich gulch
Honestly what I love with Dionysus the most is that the voice work sounds like d...
The classic with the laugh is the best:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/506944220737699843/945478191039021156/unknown.png?width=1246&height=701
past gate
Personally I just love how much detail is in this game
dawn shard
Gods give me the stability, the calmness, and balance in life that Bouldy exudes
past gate
Like how if you dash before you clean yourself of the blood in the pool of styx it leaves a trail on the ground
mint coral
i love seeing dad approve/reject the shades
rich gulch
Personally I just love how much detail is in this game
Boy, coming to this game as a folklore enthusiast was fun. The details in the lore itself are also amazing, and it's so fun when you spot a mythological reference in a small mechanic or item. Case in point, the Cosmic Egg for Chaos if you're familiar with the Theogeny.
dawn shard
I think in general all this detail is just sich an expression of love for the craft, like you can feel the honest passion that went into this game and honestly all of supergiant‘s games by all of the individuals that worked on them to create an experience that is meant to take you with it
rich gulch
It is quite inspiring (for me personally since I'm an aspiring writer and artist).
And speaking of the shade approval, does that happen randomly? I've only had it twice in my 130 or so runs. It is funny to see the shades all come scared out of their pants and Hades rejecting 90% of those claims.
past gate
Probably
dawn shard
Boy, coming to this game as a folklore enthusiast was fun. The details in the lo...
Yes absolutely! From big very obvious refrences to the small conversations the shades have in the halls that hint at other stories, it‘s a lot of fun and being a greek mythology kid has never paid of as much as playing this game lmao
past gate
Due to Hypnos's backlog of work left over
dawn shard
I‘ve had the Shade approval happen quite often? I would say balanced to the denies, maybe a bit less
past gate
It's usually considerably less
This is Hades we're talking about
He's not friendly
And then Meg talking to dusa about shades cutting the line
dawn shard
He‘s not friendly but he is fair in his own way, that‘s how I interpreted his Character, but also I might just have given the approvals more attention
rich gulch
One other thing I remember was a shade huddle at one point with the cause of death being a brawl. Now I remember that huddle talked about how they got a shot in...meanwhile another huddle on the other side of the house said how that was close, and the cause of death was, you guessed it, a brawl. Small touches like that.
past gate
He‘s not friendly but he is fair in his own way, that‘s how I interpreted his Ch...
Usually he just says "Laughable" lmao
past gate
One other thing I remember was a shade huddle at one point with the cause of dea...
Wow
Also for some reason "Cause of Death: Fall damage" was funny to me
past gate
"The pollen allergy was so intolerable"
dawn shard
zag post credits deaths are also funny
Running into a painted wall looney toons style
mint coral
dying to garden tools
rich gulch
dawn shard
dying to garden tools
Dying to a rose in itself too I think, or a thorny plant
past gate
And it's different for every attempt?
Surprised they didn't just leave it at "He can't live in the surface" just like they did before the credits
mint coral
they repeat after a while but yeah
past gate
How many of these quotes even are there???
past gate
they repeat after a while but yeah
Makes sense
mint coral
there is also one for the narrator running out of ides so zag just dies
past gate
So, the narrator is canonically Homer, isn't he?
past gate
I also think it's a cool touch how the game ends just like it starts, with the whole thing with the narrator epically narrating Zag's story
By the time we got to the end I feel like we all forgot about the beginning so it was cool to be reminded of it
rich gulch
It's in the style of a Greek epic (especially with Homer being the one narrating it) so it was only fitting to have it conclude with a grand narrative finale. Historically you'd also have the choir chipping in, but in our case we have fancy aesthetics and a mesmerising tone from the storyteller.
past gate
The choir is In The Blood
rich gulch
To add my last point to this conversation, I'll have to say that one of my favourite lines by Hades is "How dare you, boy! Learn well to shut that foolish mouth of yours, or I shall shut it for you!" because by the tone, it's the only time his control seems lost.
polar quail
"father!" "I'm right here!"
past gate
I love it when they quarrel in the middle of the fight, or after zag dies
These characters just have so much personality to them
rich gulch
Aye. He succeeds in pissing me off with that patronising laugh of his every time I fail an Erebus trial.
past gate
Pog
polar quail
and when he sometimes laughs at you for dying (or quitting the run)
past gate
Tbh I was a little surprised to see Erebus gates requiring heat
polar quail
eh idk why...
like its the same amount of difficulty either way I think? don't they spawn basically the same enemies in every area for the gates, maybe more if you turn on jury summons?
rich gulch
and when he sometimes laughs at you for dying (or quitting the run)
Ah true, that happened when I died once during a Trove challenge
past gate
like its the same amount of difficulty either way I think? don't they spawn basi...
Sometimes you get enemies from later areas (I've seen Flame Wheelers in Tartarus gates), and there sometimes isn't as much cover, but other than that? Not really anything
polar quail
Sometimes you get enemies from later areas (I've seen Flame Wheelers in Tartarus...
those flame wheelers are annoying. i did one gate and the flame wheeler was taking so long to explode it basically ruined my tartarus time and i timed out to meg
like if i touched it it might've exploded on me and ruined the whole purpose of the gate
rich gulch
No casts on hand?
polar quail
dont think so no
past gate
No joke, superelite chariots in the dad fight are terrifying
They're so fast
We supposed to run Hermes just to avoid them?
polar quail
oh god
past gate
Tbh, shield bois snipe me even harder sometimes
Since the projectile kinda accelerates over time and there's no warning
Also goes thru walls
polar quail
all my homies hate butterfly balls
rich gulch
I had three armoured Megagorgons in my first EM4 fight. Thank the gods for Hangover effects.
mint coral
Since the projectile kinda accelerates over time and there's no warning
thats why you dont let them outside your view
past gate
I had three armoured Megagorgons in my first EM4 fight. Thank the gods for Hango...
Wretched Sneaks
mint coral
I had three armoured Megagorgons in my first EM4 fight. Thank the gods for Hango...
3 butterfly balls/sneaks
main barn
10 hades
past gate
Hey, just out of curiosity, when does EM4 even unlock? I remember having to buy it but idk when
rich gulch
Fellas, the gorgons can immobilise you so that daddy double hits you for one DD
mint coral
uh a bit after credits iirc?
mint coral
Fellas, the gorgons can immobilise you so that daddy double hits you for one DD
sneak will do the same and is more annoying to kill
also gorgon projectiles are easier
past gate
Gorgon's kinda tame in comparison to the others
mint coral
Sneaks makes you cry by stabbing you at random while also dodging dad
past gate
The best is when he spawns a skull crusher which is just gonna do nothing all the fight, it's great
mint coral
and B.balls hope you have the dps or 
main barn
3 butterfly balls/sneaks <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
what would 3 butterfly balls sound like to a non hades player
rich gulch
also gorgon projectiles are easier
True, fair enough.
fast willow
somehow it feels like bbal and gorgon are equally bad to me
past gate
But the butterfly balls just take longer to kill ig
mint coral
hp sponges
fast willow
But the butterfly balls just take longer to kill ig
i only play EM4 beo so that doesnt mean anything to me
past gate
rich gulch
As good as we all get at the game, I still find myself stepping on traps. But really, screw those multi-island chambers in Asphodel. Even better when it's a bunch of witches sprinkled in and one has no divine dash.
past gate
As good as we all get at the game, I still find myself stepping on traps. But re...
Getting axed in the head is no fun
Hate it when enemies trigger them and your HP goes whoosh
Imagine with the trap heat point on
Ngl, one of the reasons I've considered learning Aspect of Arthur
Though I don't like it enough to actually deal with it
fast willow
"removing" the problem of HS doesnt nearly compensate the struggles of heat arthur lol
past gate
I just meant for traps in general but yeah
How do you even play this thing
Dashstrike simulator?
fast willow
pointy end at bad guys
fast willow
Dashstrike simulator?
if you want to do that just play nem
reef zodiac
Dashstrike simulator?
Nah
Dash strikes for one-shots
But normal attacks for anything with more health
past gate
But normal attacks for anything with more health
But the third attack in the loop takes a whole century and a half
How is that supposed to be safe?