Spamming bull rush I hope 
#h1-discussion
reef zodiac
dusky hearth
Dang bro all my runs are like 20 minutes and yall are beating it in 10 😭
reef zodiac
20 is good
Don’t worry about speedrunning
Keeping your runs under 20 minutes is a good habit to get into though
devout terrace
but i alway rush into spike trap lol
charged shot dear
reef zodiac
Goated hammer
brisk trail
@devout terrace i can't mom. I always charge full length
chrome wharf
Dash off the trap before they hit you
dusky hearth
20 is good
Hmm alright thanks.
reef zodiac
As long as your run is under 20 minutes, you’re fine with TD3 (unless I guess your time is frontloaded)
And then TD3 is free 6 heat
dusky hearth
Ah I see
I should work on speeding up a bit then
I've been messing around with the 4th sword aspect for fun
reef zodiac
Try Beo or Hestia
Those also trivialize it, arguably more than Rama since they’re easier to play imo
brisk trail
finally after 20 trials, i finally beat meg the fury haha
brisk trail
my combo is hermes and aegis shield
lone kernel
finally after 20 trials, i finally beat meg the fury haha
based
brisk trail
i just climb next floor
feral belfry
I might try forced overtime and drop some hard labor
reef zodiac
Are you using Nyaa’s pact?
lone kernel
I might try forced overtime and drop some hard labor
fo2, hl5, td3, pick two lol
zenith skiff
Dang bro all my runs are like 20 minutes and yall are beating it in 10 😭
...i have a victory screen that's like 70 minutes
fast plover
tfw i reroll hermes boons only to get the exact same boons with the exact same rarity in the exact same order
what are the odds
zenith skiff
oh dang
reef zodiac
You can’t get literally the exact same options unless those are the only options
But you can get 2 out of 3 the same
And with AP1 you can get the same 2
reef zodiac
It’s definitely very annoying though lmao
Especially when you roll again and get the same options as the first time
Which has happened to me
terse holly
ayooo is Hades development done?
zenith skiff
i believe so, i don't think any new content is coming out
if you mean out of early access then definitely
terse holly
Yaya I mean post launch
whole comet
Why dlc when those could make a new sequel lol
zenith skiff
dlc would be rad but whatever supergiant decides to do next i'm pretty sure i'll be running over with my wallet at the ready
fast plover
same
fast plover
Why dlc when those could make a new sequel lol
that would also be great
reef zodiac
like hera and apollo
8 gods is enough. More would dilute the pool and make the game worse Imo
terse holly
Hades 2 The Hadening
zenith skiff
i could see apollo's boons being healing related, as for hera i'm not entirely sure what she'd do (perhaps focusing on revenge damage?); i think they'd be neat to have but all the bases are covered as is
lament robin
So, apparently, I just learned that whatever you were obsessed with at 11-13 has become a core part of your personality, and I was a Percy Jackson kinda guy at that time, and it all makes sense why I love Greek mythology now lmao
zenith skiff
moooooooooooood
i don't remember exactly how i got into mythology but it now lives in my head rent free
deft python
I only need 1 more fish
I have gone mad
I have memorized every fish’s appearance, location, and rarity
And the names
deft python
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/927652115344674866/927652127688499230/unk...
I like to use the middle one
fallow kindle
There is somethinng that might impact the decision
deft python
?
deft python
Top
lament robin
Quick Reload was my nickname in highschool
fallow kindle
Lmao
fast plover
beat hades extreme measures 4 with literally 1 hp and no defiances left
almost lost my 39 streak there
hearty mural
Can’t yoy check the wiki to what you have in your codex?
lone kernel
Please
click that link, compare it to your codex
the ones listed as greece after credits will show up in dad arena
whole comet
Has anyone able to beat unseeded 63 64 heat last year?
lone kernel
i think 61 was as high as it got
mint coral
62
whole comet
It was 62 heat unseed with Zeus shield
lone kernel
whole comet
So I guess not?
lone kernel
i mean i had bad info
so i'm now an unreliable source lol
tho i imagine if it had been done, it wouldnt be hard to find
yet when i did the ol' discord searcharooski, no luck
reef zodiac
YKC and Damue have done 62 with Zeus (unseeded unmodded)
reef zodiac
Has anyone able to beat unseeded 63 64 heat last year?
No, it has not been done.
raw herald
Baj got to hades
reef zodiac
Timed out?
reef zodiac
Oh cringe
devout terrace
Was going to time out anyway
deft python
Has anyone able to beat unseeded 63 64 heat last year?
There are seeds?
chrome wharf
if you start a run and give up, you keep the starting RNG seed
lone kernel
itll go off the rails in like two or three rooms
but if you start with an artemis keepsake and are offered epic attack, common special and dash
then the next room is a key and an erebus with money
if u reset and switch to poseidon, you now have epic poseidon attack common special and dash and the next room will be the same
but after that it's too complicated to try to figure otu
unless ur the guy who won in 3 minutes
green quest
i am so damn mad
reached final boss first try with aegis, absolutely demolished him, almost took a victory screenshot until my pc crashed and im back at house of hades as if the run never happend
no autosave no nothin
brisk marsh
What are some good Chiron bow builds? All I rember is that you go for dio on special and aphro on attack but I don’t know what keepsake I should have what dous I should go for or what my dash and cast should be?
real wadi
Hades 2
gray apex
What are some good Chiron bow builds? All I rember is that you go for dio on spe...
For Hangover Chiron you start Dio keepsake, grab his Special and dump all your poms into that, you want Aphro ideally on attack because it makes applying weak very easy, and Aphro Dio Duo boon makes Hangover stack 3 more times on Weak foes, so it's pretty good for Chiron because you can apply all 8 stacks in one volley, so yea take Aphro into Asphodel, for Ely and Styx defensive keepsakes are usually the go-to, for the dash it's not a huge deal, Athena is very good defensively, Poseidon is very good offensively, that's about it, Ares is nice and everything else is meh, cast doesnt matter you dont really need one, also beware of opening up too many duos / having too many pom targets since you wanna keep hitting your special
brisk marsh
Ok Ty I’ll do this
frosty coral
If I take a boon for a god that boosts my attack, special, or dash, does that lock me out from seeing the other two boons from that god for the rest of the run?
gray apex
If I take a boon for a god that boosts my attack, special, or dash, does that lo...
No
It doesn’t, it’s just rng, sometimes you see a god once in a run and never again, what you take from them doesn’t affect their chance of appearing later on
chrome wharf
heard an offhand comment that basically said "if you couldn't get high rarity boons in Tartarus, you can force Demeter in Asphodel to get Rare Crop" and wanted to un-live
gray apex
gray apex
Next level gaming
versed mason
heard an offhand comment that basically said "if you couldn't get high rarity bo...
was that in like a ranking of rougelikes video?
chrome wharf
yeah
lone kernel
heard an offhand comment that basically said "if you couldn't get high rarity bo...
look at the victoy screen i just posted, did that lol
reef zodiac
No you didn’t 
raw herald
Have you unlocked any hidden aspects yet?
twilit crag
yep
raw herald
Beowulf is the shield aspect
twilit crag
I just didn't buy beowulf cause I don't know what it does
tacit nimbus
How am I even supposed to kill Hades? I can get him down to his second phase if I have 15 boons and a maxed out aspect, along with half the mirror of night. He always manages to kill me pretty quickly
raw herald
It allows you to load your casts into your attack
So when you do a bull rush, the casts pop out in a huge explosion
The special and attack are a bit clunkier but deal more damage
twilit crag
also spoiler now I know hades is a boss
raw herald
Yeah avoid this channel if you don’t want spoilers
tacit nimbus
Counterattack a lot instead of playing more aggressively like other bosses. I'm usually onto my last death defy charge by that point.
usually attack or special builds
twilit crag
also, question. charon is a boss?
raw herald
Yeah he is
twilit crag
how do you fight him? is he just the boss at the end of a floor?
raw herald
If you really want to know
twilit crag
I've only reached the end of elysium and gotten crushed by the minotaur so far
raw herald
Steal his money in a midbiome shop
hearty mural
How am I even supposed to kill Hades? I can get him down to his second phase if...
||Clear the urns as fast as you can, save your dashes to avoid he slash spin, be ready to get behind a pillar when he does any fire laser attack|| spoiler for lavamander, boss you haven’t seen yet
twilit crag
you can steal his money? also what's a midbiome shop
raw herald
Yeah sometimes there will be a bag near where he stands
hearty mural
you can steal his money? also what's a midbiome shop
I shop in the middle of an area
twilit crag
so is charon a bad boss or something
oop
not thantos
charon
I don't wanna steal from him
I like charon
reef zodiac
so is charon a bad boss or something
Nah
I think it’s a good boss
Pretty hard though
Lots of projectiles especially in the last phase
And they all do a lot of damage
Charon final phase is very chaotic
Maybe I need more practice because I’ve only beat him ~30 times or so
But I often tend to at least lose a DD if I’m not using shield
raw herald
I don’t fight charon like ever
mint coral
Last time i fighted him was with gilga iirc lol
last veldt
I wish there was EMC (extreme measures Charon). It's a really nice fight.
mint coral
Charon but he chases you each chamber after you fight him
reef zodiac
I don’t fight charon like ever
I’ve been doing a lot more causal runs lately
Oh yeah Charon is quite easy on Hestia tbh
Yeah? You fought him 30 times and didn’t lose a single DD?
Well please start uploading your near-hitless Charon fights because somehow I just don’t believe you
Unless you only use Hestia and Beo or something
lone kernel
reef zodiac
I assumed JK was for the skill issue
Gotcha
Charon with a weak build is a real challenge tbh
Especially with FO or HL
Well I’ve beat him hitless as well
It’s not the unbelievable
Especially not in Elysium
I’ve had builds that could probably insta-phase him
Still hits very hard, has a lot of HP (around 3.8x Megaera’s health)
Can have a ton of projectiles at once
Phase 3 has projectiles from both sides and Charon himself can shoot some at you. That’s a lot
reef zodiac
But by Elysium he’s quite easy tbh
My main experience with bullet hells is Cuphead, which I think is kinda a different form of them
feral belfry
damn it
had the perfect build but lost to hades with 1/3 health left on my second 32 heat run 😦
Got over confident
quasi gulch
hi
I just looked on steam and fell in love with this game. It looks so much fun and I know that I need to get it.
no not yet
how much is it?
alright
oh ok
well I guess it's a little too expensive for me right now, but I'll get it as soon as I can afford it ❤️
yeah looks like a ton of fun
lmao
I will save up for it for sure
floral flare
Hello
Can you help me?
I'm with problems to unlock the Ares's heart
(I do not speak english fluent so...)
I searched and we need to kill 10.000 enemies
I did that, Ares told me about that
but nothing happened with the heart
Yes
Ok, I will try
chrome wharf
yeah he takes a while
I think I had all the conditions for like 5 talks before he unlocked
floral flare
Ok... I just talk with him and unlocked the heart
mint coral
Just noticed my first win had hyper delivery lol
chrome wharf
based
magic drum
hyper sprint?
mint coral
Hyper sprint + rush delivery
Rd gives bonus dmg depending on bonus mov speed
So that combo is at least 50% more dmg if rd is common (and 100% at epic)
magic drum
was always curious about that combo do you need to dash before striking for that movement damage to work?
mint coral
As long as you have hyper sprint up as your dmg source hits the bonus is applied
For things like rail special you can throw it and dash before it hits
magic drum
cool beans just make sure i hit him at full speed :p
fast willow
So that combo is at least 50% more dmg if rd is common (and 100% at epic)
just ambrosia it into 125% 
chrome wharf
can't tell if you're talking about the dude or the game but yes
gray apex
reef zodiac
rapid forum
🪨
lone kernel
real wadi
feral belfry
narrow hemlock
lets ease off the emote spam, friends
gray apex
What a gamer
brisk trail
Why i can't upload my image this channel guys
gray apex
You have to upload it somewhere else and link it, Discord will embed that
brisk trail
oh i see
brisk trail
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/817270982191874081/927837783039545364/Scr...
how do you get that map when facing ||lernie||
rapid forum
EM2
rapid forum
it's the pact that makes major bosses different
brisk trail
ahhhh ok
full nexus
spoilers are allowed here, you might want to stick to #h1-for-new-players at first
brisk quiver
Hey any tips for the arthur sword?
It feels so weird having a weapon have really big startup
last veldt
Tip: Get used to the really big startup...
More usefully, use dash strikes where possible and animation cancels
Also, get Aphrodite on attack and kill everything in a couple of hits
The latter strikes in the combo have big range, so spacing is important (you can often but several groups with a single swing)
It's slow to hit but a very fast weapon in terms of room clearing
devout terrace
Hold attack to dash strike
jolly forge
Wait a sec @rapid forum you're in the coffee server
jolly forge
o/
chrome wharf
yes
brisk quiver
Hell yea nothing like playing casually for 150 hours 🙂
runic parrot
dont think i'll be going for insane heats or time anytime soon so i guess i'm also just playing casually for 400 hours
arctic marten
mint coral
The one you like the most, they are all good
chrome wharf
don't dump into Hera, but because L1 Hera is basically the same as L5 Hera
it's still good
halcyon girder
Does Hypnos say anything if you die to the gods like Zues or Poseidon ect
tribal sleet
not sure cuz ive yet to die to that yet
devout terrace
halcyon girder
So that makes
1 meg
2 than
3 artemis
4 idk if it counts maybe dusa
So basically he has a harem
If
It's canon and such
halcyon girder
True
Probably just wanted a friend
And I just know that gold is symbol for upgrades and blue is currency
The laurels
Did I spelled that right?
full nexus
laurels
halcyon girder
Thanks
I love how at first Hades always says no to the shades but with Persephone around he sometimes say yes and no
The dude was depressed
Had a wife but they were never into each other
His son hates him
The only friend he got was the dog
tribal sleet
a little bit sad but he treated his son like straight doodoo
its hard to love ur dad like that
halcyon girder
Yep
I mean him and kratos from god of war are pretty much the same
Call's their son boy or sometimes their real name
Both have dark pasts
Both of them love their family but hide it because showing emotions is weak
Both have slept with two or multiple women
And yeah
gray apex
halcyon girder
I remember my first trile of the gods it was Zeus and Athena
I thought I was getting double boon for free and no enemies
So I picked Athena
tribal sleet
i thought that too
i just pick the olympian i like more now
but. when its demeter vs another, i choose her cuz shes a pain to go against
halcyon girder
I pick the Olympians that aren't overpowered that can kill you
If it's Aphrodite and Artemis ones I hate it because well one
Artemis goes all mad at you and Aphrodite is well Aphrodite she Nevers gets rejected
tribal sleet
i dont rlly die during them, but sometimes i choose the one i dont have a call for but i have for the other so i can use greater call
last veldt
I don't think I picked Athena more than once tbh. Easiest choice ever.
halcyon girder
I really Don't care if she gets mad
high island
The correct choice is Lady Aphrodite, always. 
halcyon girder
Zeus:so here's some lightning bolts to strike your enemies
Athena:here's shields to protect you to reflect damage
Poseidon:throws food and gems and darkness at you
Artemis:you want some crits?
I wish can send Hades memes
Wait...does zagrues corpse still there in any of the rooms but gets burned or thrown away?
magic drum
your carried away by the styx back to the house of hades
lone kernel
Wait...does zagrues corpse still there in any of the rooms but gets burned or th...
In returnal you see your dead body everywhere. With that experience im glad this feature wasn’t made lol
lone kernel
So I picked Athena
(only applicable to lc4/stubborn) always take not-athena so u get a chance at a cheeky defiance
high island
Lvl1 hera becomes better than lvl5 hera if you get one Hermes boon
Or, hear me out, you could have both Lv.5 Hera and Quick Reload.
What a concept.
I came up with it all by myself.
rapid forum
or maybe you should invest it on the most superior aspect of bow.... Zag bow
full nexus
weird way to spell Rama
high island
'Tis effective at putting me to sleep alright. 
full nexus
maybe you meant Chiron
raw herald
Funny way of implying Beowulf
raw herald
Gilgamesh: you die but enemies don’t
Beowulf: enemies die but you can’t
high island
Aspect of Charon: your bow becomes a boat, use it to reach the surface
raw herald
The true elysium skip
rapid forum
Aspect of Charon: Zag talks in Hraaghaaaaaa...
burnt torrent
Nice one x)
devout terrace
Its also what hades hears when meg goes to zag's room
high island
Why would he? They're just playing board games.
reef zodiac
'Tis effective at putting me to sleep alright. <:tizozzz:456913427630129154>
So true
Although I did do a run with Zag bow the other day that was pretty fun because I got C1 twin shot and immediately got over 100% dash strike damage from Chaos so I was actually doing very good damage
magic drum
I would love some fan art of lush and green asphodel
Just heard the voice line "wasn't this all once lush and green"
lone kernel
Zag bow based
devout terrace
Just heard the voice line "wasn't this all once lush and green"
I think we call that elysium
lone kernel
y’all should get fed to crocodiles
chrome wharf
I wish can send Hades memes
#fan-works for appreciable effort memes
chrome wharf
Why would he? They're just playing board games.
*hears whip sound
"Ah. Megaera lost again."
stoic sapphire
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSccVUBk9ge8hX2KL_Xo5i4ccPsO9CbdmU2In4uEcAPaahbAIA/viewform Ayo take this for my class
chrome wharf
#self-promotion pls
just had a dad fight where Zag says "blast you too" while having rocket bomb
runic parrot
dash only
tender oyster
i'd like my 100th to be a victory lol
devout terrace
They'd like their 100th run to be a victory
tender oyster
I think it might be an L 
Im on heat 8 w/ the shield I put on Tight Deadline and im not going into the next levels with enough extra time i feel like legit on a tight deadline
gray apex
Gotta go fast
tacit nimbus
I have deflect on my attack and dash simultaniously.
the attack is epic, the dash is common.
question: Does refreshing nectar and yarn of arendae stack?
magic drum
i'm guessing you get 4 instead of 3 upgraded boons
tacit nimbus
so they don't?
magic drum
no you won't get a double upgrade on one boon
tacit nimbus
I feel like the best npc boon is either the improved rarity food or the death defy restock
darn
magic drum
I can easily agree with that
i always improve my raritys at eurydice usually anyway
and if i lose a life patroclus is my dude
devout terrace
i always improve my raritys at eurydice usually anyway
refreshing nectar is almost always better if you havent seen hermes in the run yet
some boons also have really bad rarity scaling
like zeus call
where its 5 damage
high island
Refreshing Nectar also does something the other two options don't: increased chance for duo and legendary boons.
reef zodiac
I feel like the best npc boon is either the improved rarity food or the death de...
ToSD > KoSP > CJS > Hydralite Gold > Nectar > Poms > Ambrosia
Imo
ToSD is by far the most powerful item in the game tbh
Better than any boon
chrome reef
The hell is ToSD
reef zodiac
Touch of Styx Dark
chrome reef
Oh
tribal sleet
patroclus my love
tribal sleet
whats touch of styx dark again
reef zodiac
Bruh
tribal sleet
patroclus gives the best stuff imo
reef zodiac
Well yeah ofc
tribal sleet
yeah
chrome reef
https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Patroclus
I know who it is
I just hate the acronyms
Mnemonics
Whatever they are called
tribal sleet
high island
Thankfully those acronyms will never catch on. 
magic drum
Stranger
chrome wharf
we can be like the chinese players and just call most things by the effects
reef zodiac
I just hate the acronyms
Why?
chrome reef
Guess I'm Chinese
reef zodiac
you would rather type “touch of Styx Dark” every time?
reef zodiac
Guess I'm Chinese <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
Don’t think that’s how it works
reef zodiac
Your acronyms will not catch on. <:courte5Wut:859131244670222357>
People say ToSD
chrome reef
Don’t think that’s how it works
It is now
lone kernel
lol i just call it patty
reef zodiac
It is now <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
It’s not actually
lone kernel
"get patty, not lose"
chrome reef
It’s not actually
It is
reef zodiac
lol i just call it patty
Patty could be 4 things
high island
ToSD > KoSP > CJS > Hydralite Gold > Nectar > Poms > Ambrosia
Imo
ToSD > KoSP > CJS > HG > N > P > A
There, I improved it.
chrome wharf
I feel like I'm reading a stem periodical
high island
Wait, is it HG or HLG?
chrome wharf
Hard Grabour
lone kernel
Patty could be 4 things
context clues tho, if im running high heat and get patty you can infer i took touch of styx
chrome reef
Wait, is it HG or HLG? <:thanthink:669246004142538753>
HG. Make it as vague as possible
reef zodiac
context clues tho, if im running high heat and get patty you can infer i took to...
Or you could say ToSD
high island
H then.
high island
Or you could say ToSD
Ew.
reef zodiac
I’m not saying there’s an issue with saying Patty
lone kernel
use your s and get bs to k the fs in t fast ez game
reef zodiac
But it’s also more clear to say ToSD
chrome reef
I dub thee cringe
reef zodiac
So I don’t see the issue with it
lone kernel
gold star to first person to translate that
high island
ToSD > KoSP > CJS > HG > N > P > A
T > K > C > H > N > P > A
Brought to you by @reef zodiac.
chrome reef
T > K > C > H > N > P > A
reef zodiac
That’s a straw man lol
chrome reef
Thats like Zeus attack Arthur level cursed
reef zodiac
Never said we should reduce every word to one letter
chrome wharf
now it reads like an answer key to some test
chrome reef
now it reads like an answer key to some test
What kinda test has enough options for T
reef zodiac
I just said that ToSD is better than saying touch of Styx dark every time
high island
use your s and get bs to k the fs in t fast ez game
Use your sword and get Breaching Slash to kill the foes in time fast easy game.
What if I don't say either.
lone kernel
A>P>H>R>O. Aphrodite is better than Privilged Status, which is better than Hard Labor, which is better than Routine Inspection, which is better than zero. duh.
high island
And write instead.
chrome reef
Touch of Styx Dark
lone kernel
Use your sword and get Breaching Slash to kill the foes in time fast easy game.
i was going for "bs" as boons and "f" as furies and "t" as tartarus, but your answer is also correct
chrome reef
That took 3 seconds
lone kernel
⭐
reef zodiac
??
chrome reef
A one second difference
chrome reef
What is your point?
You're lazy
reef zodiac
Bruh
lone kernel
reef zodiac
That’s such an insanely stupid point to make
chrome wharf
saved: one second
lost: everyone's willingness to talk with you
reef zodiac
I’m genuinely shocked
high island
Hades: Acronym Wars
chrome reef
That’s such an insanely stupid point to make
Not as stupid as ToSD
high island
Keep it civil here. Be kind.
devout terrace
I am so confused
reef zodiac
I just prefer to abbreviate ToSD because it’s faster and it’s impossible to confuse it with something else
chrome reef
I just prefer to abbreviate ToSD because it’s faster and it’s impossible to conf...
impossible to confuse with something else
reef zodiac
> impossible to confuse with something else
What else do you think ToSD means??
chrome reef
Who the hell is gonna confuse "touch of styx dark" with anything else
That points not valid
reef zodiac
patty = five letters tosd=4 more confusing letters
In YKCs 62 heat run, he got Patty
high island
True of Screen Death.
chrome reef
True of Screen Death.
Seems legit
reef zodiac
Who the hell is gonna confuse "touch of styx dark" with anything else
THAT WASNT MY POINT DUDE READ
My god
chrome reef
THAT WASNT MY POINT DUDE READ
It LITERALLY was
reef zodiac
It *LITERALLY* was
“I just prefer to abbreviate ToSD because it’s faster and it’s impossible to confuse it with something else”
chrome wharf
Terms of Sevice Denial
lone kernel
chrome reef
“I just prefer to abbreviate ToSD because it’s faster and it’s impossible to con...
Its also impossbile to confuse "Touch of Styx Dark" with anything else, whats your point
reef zodiac
Upside: It’s faster
Downside: None because you can’t confuse it with something else
lone kernel
i think people may see tosd and be like, wut is that
high island
Just drop it, no need to get worked up over nothing.
chrome wharf
several people are typing
chrome reef
I'm not even worked up, I'm just highly amused
reef zodiac
In YKCs 62 heat run, he got Patty
Did he take ToSD? No. But you probably assumed he did. But it’s very interesting to know that he in fact did not
lone kernel
based
reef zodiac
Which you would not have known if you simplify saying Patty instead of ever specifying. That said, I’m not here to tell people not to just call it patty. I’m just saying that there’s a reason I prefer to say ToSD
narrow hemlock
okay drop the topic and move on please
lone kernel
but saying patroclus to patty that saves four letters
oh ok my bad
@narrow hemlock i am on the ice mountain thing in fenyx, pretty based game good recommendation
chrome reef
That was fun
reef zodiac
but saying patroclus to patty that saves four letters <:Zulda:718577362802966558...
Lando not everything is about saving a few letters. Anyway, moving on
narrow hemlock
dropping the topic also means not getting in the last word after being told to move on. please bear that in mind for the future
anyway hades is a cool game
chrome wharf
hades but if you turn on FO the music and voice also speed up
lone kernel
em4 your speakers explode
chrome reef
I still think someone should do a 50 heat trackpad speedrun
chrome wharf
DDR dance pad when
lone kernel
If speedrun means 19 minutes sure
honestly, i'd count that at 50
high island
anyway hades is a cool game
Is it really cool, though, or is it... hot?
narrow hemlock
someone should try and make hades viable on kinect just for funnies
gray apex
Well going fast for 50 is rough already letalone trackpad
mint coral
time to do 40 heat on 3ds controller
raw herald
Gyro aiming sub 10
chrome wharf
turning the fists into an actual punching action can be a good workout
chrome reef
time to do 40 heat on 3ds controller
32 heat snes controller
raw herald
Someone got an 8:xx with a midi keyboard
chrome wharf
I wanted to get that gamecube controller if it wasn't that expensive
raw herald
I think
chrome reef
someone should try and make hades viable on kinect just for funnies
Ive said it before, I'll say it again, VR Hades
lone kernel
I wanted to get that gamecube controller if it wasn't that expensive
ive tried gamecube controller hades
its very scuffed
reef zodiac
Ive said it before, I'll say it again, VR Hades <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
Makes zero sense
high island
turning the fists into an actual punching action can be a good workout
@brisk trail didn't know you can hold down Attack on Malphon when she did 40 Heat with it. I think that counts as a workout.
chrome reef
Makes zero sense <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
Correct. But it would be funny.
brisk trail
lol
lone kernel
<@456226577798135808> didn't know you can hold down Attack on Malphon when she d...
remember that time you told me this like, last month lol
brisk trail
yeah that happend
lone kernel
ngl, i was embarassed i didnt know
brisk trail
I like mashing
chrome reef
<@456226577798135808> didn't know you can hold down Attack on Malphon when she d...
...wait
raw herald
Makes for some funny moments
chrome wharf
DUnnn dunnn Dun Dunnnnnn
frail wedge
That was a fun debate I just read
versed mason
yall were clicking for every malphon attack?
high island
It's like when you write that Dash-Strikes don't have i-frames and inevitably somebody goes "huh? what?"
frail wedge
yall were clicking for every malphon attack?
It’s fun
chrome wharf
did the tooltip on fists not say so?
versed mason
i don't find carpal tunnel fun but i won't judge
lone kernel
That was a fun debate I just read <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
Your pfp is fantastic
raw herald
It's like when you write that Dash-Strikes don't have i-frames and inevitably so...
Bigp literally didn’t know this till recently
frail wedge
Your pfp is fantastic
Correct
lone kernel
i don't find carpal tunnel fun but i won't judge
Didn’t play fists because of this lol
frail wedge
Should’ve seen it during Halloween
chrome wharf
Your pfp is fantastic
Seconded
high island
I feel the Hades community goes through cycles where something is discovered > it becomes common knowledge > nobody talks about it anymore > it is "discovered" again by the next generation > etc.
gray apex
lmao
reef zodiac
People clicking for every single fists and rail attack is so so funny to me
I knew someone on another server who was doing that as well
mint coral
tried to get swift flourish to mess around with conc volley only for hermes only giving me swift strike lmao
feral belfry
How do you get legednary boons to drop? Is it just RNG based off of how many boons you've taken from a god, or are there actual pre-requisites
feral belfry
ok
Haven't got one in my last like 25 rounds, just trying to purge one for trophy haha
chrome wharf
Look for ones that only need 2 boons total before they start showing up
reef zodiac
Or one boon 🧠
lone kernel
I feel the Hades community goes through cycles where something is discovered > i...
There’s just so much information that knowing everything is like memorizing the phone book
high island
Congratulations!
brisk trail
there is literly nothing else i could do
lone kernel
Based
feral belfry
I just got the epilogue today but I've got two more trophies to get
chrome wharf
hades mod where all it does is replace a single instance of Hermes generic dialogue with "hey boss, just letting you know that you get iframes when you dash, but not for dash attacks!"
chrome wharf
chrome wharf
*bouldy drops on Zag
- 1000 dmg
lone kernel
got a message for ya boss, if you don't get hit you wont die
reef zodiac
Got a message for ya boss, if you upgrade the rarity of your passion or icy flare, or sell your attack, or upgrade the rarity of your attack while you have passion or icy flare, your cast’s damage radius will be greatly reduced but you can maybe fix it by upgrading your cast rarity again but it’s inconsistent!
gray apex
lone kernel
cast lookin smol there cuz, need a pick me up?
idk who here is into sports enough to get this but whenever i hear hermes call you cuz i always think of pat mcafee and his show and how he calls everyone cuzzo
this guy
he was a punter lol
feral belfry
lone kernel
I never had a problem w rail lol
jolly forge
Ywah I do it for the fists lol
reef zodiac
Why though
lone kernel
They’re gods
devout terrace
I once heard hades described as "50 shades of bi panic"
proper seal
I'm only gay, not bi
but I'd believe it
hell, Zag's room has got bisexual lighting
devout terrace
Wait I never noticed that
feral belfry
is triggering to steal from chiron RNG or can you increase the odds of it happening
high island
Charon, and no, just luck.
feral belfry
ty
brisk trail
what does spread fire do to aspect of hestia empowered shot?
(ur attack deal 40 damage and -6 ammo)
gray apex
Nothing
brisk trail
Ok
gray apex
It’s a pretty good chance to be fair
It’s like somewhere in the 30s if I’m not mistaken
high island
Assuming you take every mid-shop and factoring in chances to miss mid-shops, there's a 48.37% chance to see the bag in a run.
gray apex
Oh I thought it’s much higher for some reason
brisk trail
is flurry fire or explosive better for a hestia run
raw herald
What’s the third one
gray apex
Both don’t do anything
brisk trail
What’s the third one
bad
gray apex
Might not be that bad yea
brisk trail
last one says i dont have to reload lmao
high island
m guessing the third one is the one to take like usually when people only tell us two of the options.
raw herald
Ok delta sucks on hestia
brisk trail
Delta chamber
raw herald
Take explosive
brisk trail
yea lol
raw herald
I was thinking “man I hope it’s targeting or hazard”
gray apex
Lol
brisk trail
whats targeting do
high island
'Twas the one option that's actually worse than the two.
raw herald
Explosive is ok AOE but worse than ricochet
Enemies targeted with special take +30% damage from most things
gray apex
And are slower
raw herald
Oh yeah
reef zodiac
is flurry fire or explosive better for a hestia run
Both are completely useless (well explosive is like a copium ricochet but it’s terrible)
gray apex
Pretty good
reef zodiac
Hestia has a lot of good hammers so it sucks when you see none of them
reef zodiac
Hazard > Rocket > Ricochet > Piercing > Cluster > Targeting >> Triple > Explosive >> Everything Else
brisk trail
hestia has some good ones but the bad ones are like litterally useless
reef zodiac
Yeah
reef zodiac
With those hammers, what do you have to lose?
brisk trail
fr
gray apex
Triple does something but it’s not valuable enough that you’d want to keep the hammer and explosive is explosive so yea you have nothing to lose almost
reef zodiac
Do you agree with my evaluation of Hestia hammers?
gray apex
Hazard vs clockets is a bit context dependent but yea it looks good
Like if I’m doing anyheat I would take Rocket over Hazard
And High heat I would take Hazard
gray apex
Yea Rocket Hestia is huuuggeee
brisk trail
time to go lose 2 death defiances to EM thesius 🤡
pog i only lost 1
and i got an anvil nice
ffs i lost triple for DELTA and rocket
rocket is decent but i prefered triple esp for styx
dusk turtle
this is kinda a toughie rn
I can go to an Erebus Gate for a Pom or go to Chaos
prob should go to Chaos, since I don't have any good boons to pom
devout terrace
Erebus pom is actually 2 poms
real wadi
Yeah
devout terrace
It can be very helpful on a cast start like crush shot
real wadi
Its 2 lvls
dusk turtle
I'm still in Tartarus
basically the only thing that would be worth pomming was my Aphrodite special
and I am running Achilles so that was kinda tempting
but I ended up going Chaos anyways
hearty mural
Is 64 heat only possible on hell mode?
feral belfry
hesita or eris for 32 heat?
twin thistle
either really
hestia you can just get an attack boon or shackle and thats all you need for 32 heat while eris needs more stuff but can just do enough dps to just kill everything without having to play really if you get it
reef zodiac
hesita or eris for 32 heat?
Hestia is easier but both are great
twin thistle
or just get clockets on either
dusk turtle
damn I got my ass beat by EM4
I made it to round two and almost got em down but died out because of an urn
fickle shore
And so, another good run was completely destroyed because of Cursed Slash
Got it randomly from the anvil and it just ruined my arthur build
mint ember
was gnna say cursed slash is alot of fun but
doesnt see fun with arthur lmao
if you arent going for speed cursed slash is my favorite bc it changes the playstyle a bunch
wary mural
i finally killed hades woo
wary mural
thx
old tapir
Got it randomly from the anvil and it just ruined my arthur build
lmaooo rip. one time the anvil gave me cursed slash when i had like 200 max health bc i hadn't prioritised the hearts that run
brisk trail
whats the max hearts y'all ever gotten 😩
fickle shore
whats the max hearts y'all ever gotten 😩
325 iirc
brisk trail
mines prob like 175 or sumthin
wary mural
275
reef zodiac
whats the max hearts y'all ever gotten 😩
Probably about 650?
wary mural
yes
mint ember
i think mine was 500 bc i wanted to go for max revenge dmg
stacked arthur and dog necklace and every heart i could find lol
wary mural
got one of the funnier shade lines
why do they keep asking if the horse was okay
reason of death :stampeding
mint ember
didnt really work tho sad
deft python
got one of the funnier shade lines
why do they keep asking if the horse was ok...
How do you talk to shades? I got it once
Is it just random chance
wary mural
yes
fickle shore
How do you talk to shades? I got it once
It's the little text you get in the House, like that one dude that died of thirst (for Aphrodite)
tacit nimbus
I'm seriously considering turning on godmode. The game gets so ludicrously difficult that I don't even have fun anymore. Plus, spending an hour to get to hades and being killed immidiately doesn't give you any sort of oppurtunity to learn attacks. Especially the stupid laser. The game isn't even fun anymore. Should I enable it?
real wadi
Absolutely
wary mural
It's the little text you get in the House, like that one dude that died of thirs...
lol
real wadi
Games are for having fun
fickle shore
I'm seriously considering turning on godmode. The game gets so ludicrously diff...
I did a while ago, there's no shame in it
tacit nimbus
alright. My brother seems to think I'm taking the wimpy path. No clue, but if it means making the game fun again, so be it.
Plus it can always be taken off if things do let up
fickle shore
If the difficulty gets on the way of the fun, it goes down
tacit nimbus
question: Is the +2 defense per death thing per save or across the game?
halcyon girder
I'm seriously considering turning on godmode. The game gets so ludicrously diff...
Eh it's fine on turning on God mode I turn on God mode to get lower record runs
fickle shore
alright. My brother seems to think I'm taking the wimpy path. No clue, but if ...
Sorry for being rash, but tell your brother to grab that opinion and shove it
real wadi
question: Is the +2 defense per death thing per save or across the game?
Per save
real wadi
No
tacit nimbus
nice.
fickle shore
Really, there's no sense in punishing yourself just for the idea of not being a wimp
mint ember
oh\
godmode is like completely fine tho
i prolly dont need it anymore tybh i rarely ever burn my first DD anymore
but i think its a fine tool to use
narrow hemlock
halcyon girder
Buuut
If your using it in a speedrun
An actual speedrun
You can't use it
I swear hercules is my favourite animated movie
Even tho it's not accurate
mint ember
You can't use it
I mean.. any% is any%
halcyon girder
Wait really?
real wadi
Speedruns tend to get invalidated when you're lowering the base difficulty
raw herald
Godmode is against the rules
real wadi
That's just how it works
raw herald
Speedrun.com rules anyway
real wadi
Yes
mint ember
The term any% literally means by any means necessary
raw herald
The rules are the rules
mint ember
Thats fine but its not accurate
real wadi
Except if its against the rules obviously
raw herald
It’s anyheat, not any%
real wadi
Anything that is permited
raw herald
There is no any% category
real wadi
The term any% literally means by any means necessary
By that logic "any" means you could use a hacked client
mint ember
What i like about godmode is that it allows less determined players to experience the story
Also that its not instant
By the time you fully stack god made you prolly won't need it anymore
raw herald
20% damage reduction, +2% every death, caps at 80%
narrow hemlock
i like keeping it on because it lets me turn my brain off and be reckless and thats my idea of fun
outside of dashing into lava for the 4832758th time, thats not fun 😭
brisk trail
for sea gods spite can they be 2 different runs?
halcyon girder
I wonder what would 100% god mode be like
raw herald
Very easy
real wadi
I don't have it turned on because it's a pretty forgiving game imo
Of course i havent ventured into high heat though
narrow hemlock
oh high heat is brutal
raw herald
I’ve never used it, but I think it’s implimented very well
Personally I think if you’re doing high heat and god mode at the same time, it kinda doesn’t make sense, but if you’re trying to go for the statues and nothing else, go for it
raw herald
Since god mode is reverse hard labour
But if you’re having fun then I don’t really mind
mint ember
If you're used to god mode dmg, the increased dmg and difficulty still affects you tho? Its still a substantial jump from what you're used to
zenith skiff
I wonder what would 100% god mode be like
once you’re at 80% god mode it feels like 100% tbh
- someone who’s bad at the game (me)
brisk trail
LOL
zenith skiff
i wish I could reset the resistance
tacit nimbus
Question: How does godmode stack with other defense boons like different league or bronze skin?
tacit nimbus
i wish I could reset the resistance
beating a run
brisk trail
yea imo it should let u chose ur own cap
you want it to be easier but not brain dead ez
tacit nimbus
yeah
zenith skiff
beating a run
not with god mode, as far as I know there’s no way to lower it
mint ember
Just stack to your preference and dont die 4head
tacit nimbus
not with god mode, as far as I know there’s no way to lower it
winning sets it back to %20
real wadi
I mean if you have it so highered to a 80% don't you kinda need it still?
mint ember
You could ig theoretically just reset if you're about to die lmao
tacit nimbus
huh. strange
zenith skiff
wdym?
narrow hemlock
uh supergiant themselves officially suggest upping hard labor to counteract god mode https://twitter.com/SupergiantGames/status/1323745005933010944
zenith skiff
uh supergiant themselves officially suggest upping hard labor to counteract god ...
thank you!!
narrow hemlock
god mode does not reset %
you can turn it on and off at any time during a run but you cannot alter the percentage
tacit nimbus
So yeah, how does it stack with defense boons? anyone know?
real wadi
I see
zenith skiff
i don’t know much, but I know that you can never get to 100% resistance with it
tacit nimbus
huh. probably multiplicative then instead of additive
real wadi
Multiplicative would be insane
brisk trail
for sea-gods spite do i have to talk to Posiedon in the same run as beating EM thesius?
real wadi
I bet its additive
mint ember
I think god mode reduces whatever dmg it does and bronze skin applies to post mitigation damage
brisk trail
mutiplicatly is less op than additive
signal aspen
I bet its additive
Nah damage resistance is multipicative
real wadi
Is it
signal aspen
Yes
tacit nimbus
additive would be like +10 defense from different league combined for %90 defense
real wadi
i should have paid attention in class
tacit nimbus
multiplicative would be a lot smaller
zenith skiff
mood
raw herald
Godmode 80% plus HL1 would be 60% then?
zenith skiff
i don’t understand all of this math but I appreciate the HL tweet very much
mint ember
So like if you are gonna take a shot that does 20 dmg and you have 50% god mode, you'll take 10 obviously.
But with bronze skin reducing your dmg taken by idk 10% for the sake of simplicity you'll take 9 damage instead
brisk trail
bouldy is a mood
zenith skiff
bouldy my beloved
raw herald
If damage reduction was additive then Arthur would be the best high heat aspect in the game
zenith skiff
So like if you are gonna take a shot that does 20 dmg and you have 50% god mode,...
this makes sense…I think
i don’t know I came to the game for the story tbh, stabbing things is a bonus
mint ember
Basically, god mode is pre-mitigation, while bronze skin etc is post mitigation
zenith skiff
that too
the looks and the story for me, bless everyone doing stuff like high heat but I’m just here to romance death and fix my family
mint ember
Its prolly easier to think of it like, god mode doesn't give you dmg reduction, it reduces the base damage of everything in the game and then other dmg reduction boons are normal
zenith skiff
^^^
mint ember
I done rant
brisk trail
Basically, god mode is pre-mitigation, while bronze skin etc is post mitigation
that distinction makes no sense because its valid to say that bronze skin reduces the 20 to 18 and then the 50% god reduces it to 9
zenith skiff
i appreciate v much
brisk trail
just multiply all the reductions together
brisk trail
yea thats why im saying calling 1 pre or post makes no sense
mint ember
just multiply all the reductions together
This only works bc everything is a multiple of 2
I did it that way bc the math is simpler
halcyon girder
Does zagreus know that Achilles died because his Achilles heel
mint ember
Isn't it in the codex
vivid talon
He knows that he died from a bow, thanks to the codex
halcyon girder
Yeah shot in the heel
zenith skiff
one of these days I wanna sit down and read the full codex tbh
zenith skiff
oh worm
it’s 3 hours long, I’ll probably watch this weekend when I have some mindless stuff to do lol
mint ember
Yea i watched it over the course of a few days while playing pokemon
green dune
Dash nova doesn't grant iframes. Has that always been? I'm offended.
It can be interrupted by damage
green dune
It grants sturdy after it hits
fickle shore
Ah
reef zodiac
Dash nova doesn't grant iframes. Has that always been? I'm offended.
It doesn’t? Like it’s not a dash? I’m pretty sure it is
green dune
I'm hating this
reef zodiac
Dash nova isn’t very good
green dune
Nope I'm getting interrupted all the time in asphodel
reef zodiac
But I thought the dash gave i-frames (not the special part though)
reef zodiac
Nope I'm getting interrupted all the time in asphodel
Mid dash or after the dash?
green dune
I'm just taking the cards I'm dealt. I'm starting over again and need to fulfil the fates you know.
green dune
Mid dash or after the dash?
Mid dash, before it lands
reef zodiac
Really? Weird
green dune
And I have Athena on special no less
I'm trying to reflect and it gets interrupted mid dash
I'm probably going to die but wanted to complain first.
mint ember
Yea having athena on delayed abilities can be rough
Definitely still effective but not optimal
green dune
Died to witches. I wasn't trying hard because it wasn't fun
mint ember
Witches chamber is rough without deflect lol
green dune
Better luck next run
reef zodiac
Witches chamber is rough without deflect lol
Nah, not really imo
with some builds it can be ig
green dune
I'm trying no god mode this file
reef zodiac
But generally the main issue is that it can take kinda a while
green dune
We'll see how long I last
mint ember
Or do 
brisk trail
i was like “lmao i can steal his money” and then he was like
“Call an ambulance”
“BUT NOT FOR ME”
halcyon girder
I love skelly just casually says about Charon "he's rich"
I mean it's true
The dude made his own currency and you give his coins that was made by himself
The coins are made in literal gold
Not like a silver coin painted in gold
wary mural
same lol