h1-discussion

[marble kite]

i swear the character designers must have been sweating making these

mf has a thigh strap and everything

[twin thistle]

[lone kernel]

I think that was covered in the making of hades documentary

And the developers said what I said, they’re gods lol I was quoting them

[hardy geode]

I have two more ranks to get the highest rank
What should I have as my last run before I get the rank?

[lone kernel]

Meme beam at 60 heat

[hardy geode]

Do I have to win

[signal aspen]

Yes

[hardy geode]

Ok sounds good see you next year

How much harder is 40 heat compared to 32? I’ve done 32 heat with half of the aspects but I haven’t really tried going for 40

[devout terrace]

depends on that pact and weapon

but a lot harder

[lone kernel]

Basically you’re looking at adding JS, RI, AP, DC, and em4 if you’re a masochist

[devout terrace]

RI at 40 flat bruh

[lone kernel]

You can generally get away without fo2 HL5 on 32

[devout terrace]

why would you ever

you should never take RI under 50 heat

[hardy geode]

Typically I go for FO2 HL5 just because I’m used to having FO2

[devout terrace]

thats good

[lone kernel]

But I liked when Meg gave my chambers a routine inspection

[versed mason]

should I wait and see for myself to trying EM4 or look it up to see how bad it is

[lone kernel]

If you don’t look beforehand you’ll probably lose, if you do you’ll probably still lose

[versed mason]

I'm prepared to loose

[devout terrace]

HL5 LC4 EM3 BP2 MM UC TD3 gets you pretty far

[hardy geode]

Is the jump from 40 to 50 pretty big as well

[devout terrace]

arguably the biggest yeah

[lone kernel]

Higher than 32 to 40 is

[devout terrace]

its exponential

just getting to a point where there are far less options

[lone kernel]

You run out of “ok I got this” heats around the mid 30s and have to start picking the uncomfy ones lol

[high island]

If you can do FO2 HL5 just fine sub 20, you shouldn't have much of a problem with 40 Heat.

Sub 20 minutes, that is.

For TD3.

Just add on LC4 BP2 EM3 etc. and you'll have a pact.

Should move to #h1-high-heat-strategies, though, if you want to go more in-depth.

[hardy geode]

Thanks!

[high island]

Since that's the channel for that.

[versed mason]

what heat options should i avoid early on (0-10 heat)

[twin thistle]

no

[high island]

Err... none of them tbh. There's a prophecy for getting a clear with each pact (not all once).

So I'd say aim for that.

Unless you have other goals, of course. But I think prophecies like that are pretty good for exploring the different options to give you an idea of what's what.

[twin thistle]

ri, ap, cp not stonks

[lone kernel]

oh no wonder i keep losing at 40

[twin thistle]

show pact

[lone kernel]

There’s the pact

[twin thistle]

[versed mason]

cp ??????? o-o

[high island]

Calisthenics Program.

[versed mason]

child protection

[bitter rover]

is Beowulf any good

[last veldt]

....

Oh yes.

[twin thistle]

its only slightly broken

[high island]

Probably the most powerful aspect in the game.

[versed mason]

give it a shot my good friend

[bitter rover]

i haven't unlocked it yet

well i don't have enough titan blood yet

also is callisthenics program 1 too hard

doing 5 heat

[lone kernel]

the "easiest" heat is tight deadline (based on your comfort level), extreme measures 2 (learn the EM fights) maybe underworld customs and middle management

pick your poison

[bitter rover]

i turned on middle management, tight deadline, convenience fee and callisthenics

[lone kernel]

td1 is free

td2 once youre pushing heat youll get it naturally

td3 requires practice

[bitter rover]

I'm scared or underworld customs

I've done em1 though

[twin thistle]

calisthenics is pretty bad compared to the other 1 heat options other than hs

[lone kernel]

calisthenics is scarier than customs, especially if you use dark foresight

[twin thistle]

customs doesnt matter much when you realize there are quite a few boons youre lugging around that really are doing pretty much nothing

[bitter rover]

which one was dark customs

sorry

foresight

[mint coral]

+20% chance to gold laurel rooms (boons/poms/etc) and less darkness/gems/etc

Counterpart to olympian favor

[bitter rover]

also i like hoarding them

oh i have olympian favor on

wait no i have dark foresight on now lol

i need darkness though

alright here's my mirror:
shadow presence
dark regen
death defiance
greater reflex
abyssal blood
infernal soul
deep pockets
thick skin
family favorite
olympian favor
god's legacy
fated persuasion

[chrome wharf]

swap dark Regen to Chthonic vitality

if you have a spare key, empty out Olympian Favor and put the darkness into Dark Foresight

Abyssal blood is fine starting out, you might eventually wanna swap to Boiling

[versed mason]

boiling slaps, also some builds get busted with privileged status, it's nearly free damage if you have a build with a couple debuffs

[high island]

Family Favorite is definitely the better pick-and-forget option.

Privileged Status is only really good in specific builds.

Although it's nice then.

[versed mason]

yeah i wouldn't leave it on, but if you have a specific build in mind it's real nice

[bitter rover]

i have dark foresight maxed

also i just died

it was a bad run

but i had heroic on my attack and special

[old tapir]

question: does visiting the charon dimension reroll the next room like visiting chaos does? I've done it once and survived but hadn't checked what the door was before so when picking up the card kicked me out into "miniboss for aphrodite boon" I wasn't sure if that was what the door was before

[rapid forum]

Going to chaos counts as going to next chamber

[old tapir]

Oh oops didn't check the numbering on that

But does going to erebus for charon fight count as that

Or does it use the same number and reroll the next room, or does it keep the same next room

(this is the only circumstance I've visited erebus under, I haven't gotten to 5 heat with any weapon yet)

[mint coral]

sometimes i had a certain god, charon fight then next chamber is different god if that helps (at least when next door is a mini boss)

[old tapir]

ah thanks. so it's either A or B

anyone have knowledge of whether the fight has the same or different room number than the shop

[sick kraken]

is it valid to play the first playthrough of the game in hell mode? I wanted to die a lot and hell mode sounded perfect for that

[old tapir]

that probably will impede learning

[bitter rover]

i once again used my companion when i wanted to use my call

[sick kraken]

I have not gotten past asphodel lol

[high island]

Yeah, you can definitely start with Hell mode, plenty of people who've done that and had fun with it.

[sick kraken]

I'm having a lot of fun so I think it'll be alright

[bitter rover]

how do you activate hell mode

[sick kraken]

make a new save file

[old tapir]

on the save select screen

[high island]

That'll stop eventually lol.

[old tapir]

pro tips: call is the gift button, summon is the pet cerberus button

on the subject of summons, it's really annoying to me that skelly summon counts as a foe for the purposes of "zag can damage him"; when the actual enemy is killing him melee it's hard to avoid hitting him yourself, diminishing the usefulness of the summon

[high island]

It kind of adds to the charm for me.

[void vigil]

i think a fair amount of people started the game on hell mode, its fine. its up to you if you want the challenge - its also totally normal to die a lot when you start the game

[high island]

Skelly is pretty amazing in Erebus.

[void vigil]

whether you play on hell mode or not

[twin thistle]

hell mode only adds difficulty to the first clears and then it just becomes annoying because you have less customization of difficulty with the locked heats. also the heats it adds arent particularly interesting and half just make runs longer

[high island]

I think Hell mode is pretty fun as you go up in Heat, too.

[twin thistle]

cp and js are ew

[high island]

That's subjective.

[twin thistle]

well forced cp and js makes td3 harder for 32 heat ig

hell mode more like 50 heat easy mode

[high island]

Just generally makes things quite a bit harder especially in the later biomes.

[twin thistle]

if you want cp then do a clear then turn on cp

[high island]

You also have to do up to 25 Heat to get all the bounties instead of 20.

That's fun.

[twin thistle]

actually idk if ive even done all my bounties yet

[high island]

Yeah, you probably don't fully appreciate Hell mode yet because you're still new.

[bitter rover]

hit me boyo

[bitter rover]

take a shot every time hades says darkness

[rapid forum]

do the same but with Kingdom Hearts

anyway

gonna do ME Beo

again

[lapis shore]

Since when does dad do 80 dmg with the 360 swing

[gray apex]

Hard Labor

[mint coral]

or boiling blood

[gray apex]

Yea that would make more sense

[bleak karma]

i like how both the father and the son have the boiling blood thing

[old tapir]

update: i have been getting perfect catches! but rng hates me so still no legendaries for the prophecy

[gray apex]

They both have dashes too

They both have invincibility shields when they take a lot of dmg

[old tapir]

choosing against athena in a trial in elysium is SO annoying. standing there helplessly while impervious floating eyeball respawns

[fast willow]

it is really weird that PL doesnt exist on a normal save

[gray apex]

Better than Aphro

[lapis shore]

How do I even kill dad what the

Its impossible, I mean ive done it once before but only once

Boss is stupid hard

[chrome wharf]

hit him a lot of times

[lapis shore]

Hardest boss in any game I've ever played by far

[full nexus]

Observe before thinking of dealing damage

[chrome wharf]

*cries in Kings Hand

Abyssal blood and Chill can help

[lapis shore]

What an insane boss

Like holy crap

I can't curse but I def would if I could rn

[full nexus]

If you take your time, you'll figure out an attack or two per try. Knowledge will pile up and you'll be good

[gray apex]

Just takes some practice, his attacks will become more predictable as you get used to the fight

He can be a bit overwhelming because pots/skulls/adds

[twin thistle]

can slap him wih good builds

[gray apex]

Like cursed slash

[lapis shore]

I dont learn anything new

I'm just an idiot

I make the same mistakes I make every attempt

[full nexus]

Nah you're just not playing actively

[lapis shore]

I'm doomed to fail ig

[chrome wharf]

the spin attack has a sizable cooldown, when he does it, dash twice towards him, smack him a bit, then run away

[full nexus]

Yeah that's perfectly normal

[lapis shore]

I had an insane build too with merciful end

Yet I screwed it up

Great job me

[gray apex]

It’s ok

[full nexus]

You know in high heat we say the exact same thing

[gray apex]

A great build wont fully guarantee a win anyway

[full nexus]

Everyone screws up

Build ain't gonna play itself

[twin thistle]

well some do at lower heats

[chrome wharf]

you need build knowledge tho

[full nexus]

Yeah that's only natural

[twin thistle]

||flurry cursed||

[full nexus]

My only merit is that I've played it his game too much

[gray apex]

I guess flurry cursed is pretty intuitive therefore popular

And doesn’t feel like it has many drawbacks

[chrome wharf]

I've never gotten it lol

was expecting tidal dash

[gray apex]

Same

Didnt play much sword when starting out and didnt even bother to try later

[chrome wharf]

partially bc I have to be paid to play sword

[gray apex]

Looking into duo boons can also help

I feel like a lot of people assume those are rather random when they actually have requirements

This is basically me cheesing my way to credits with Heartrend Chiron

[chrome wharf]

Pretty sure I never touched Chiron until getting credits twice

or Talos

[gray apex]

I have 1 clear with Talos until this day

And it’s some 30 minute clear probably from like 10 months ago

[lapis shore]

Alecto is also 2nd hardest boss for me

[gray apex]

She is annoying

[manic bobcat]

How beat Hades?

[feral belfry]

learn his attack patterns and adapt

What boons are good for Arthur aspect?

[gray apex]

Big attack

That’s it

You can go Aphro attack/ Zeus Call Smoldering Air

[brisk trail]

I like artemis attack and aphrodite special

[feral belfry]

classic smair

[brisk trail]

then heart rend

[gray apex]

Phalanx shot -> Lightning Phalanx

Heartrend Arthur is overkill

[brisk trail]

big number go brr

[gray apex]

And the attack is too slow for the crit to be good on it tbh

[feral belfry]

that sounds good. Just trying to get an easy clear with a few heat for prophecy

[gray apex]

Aphro is more consistent and weak is even more dmg reduction

[feral belfry]

it's so slow

[gray apex]

Shadow Slash Double Edge Breaching Slash Piercing Wave for Hammers

And the Arthur exclusive is also okay

[brisk trail]

slow but it hit like a truck

[gray apex]

15% of the time

If you’re using Artemis

[brisk trail]

yeah I just like big number

[manic bobcat]

https://imgur.com/a/atXIPVq

[gray apex]

Big number gud

Indeed

[manic bobcat]

https://imgur.com/a/u9qzRch

168!

[gray apex]

168!

Lol

[manic bobcat]

xD

It is safe to say that rat is no longer with us.

[brisk trail]

you can run arthur then the game give you crazy cast boon

so you play with cast instead 😂

[gray apex]

That’s actually kinda meta for going fast with the aspect

[brisk trail]

I really like Zeus + Poseidon + Artemis lately

[manic bobcat]

It's called ZAP

[brisk trail]

ZAP indeed

on a side note

I just got the 2nd voidskate

but zero legendary fish from Elysium and Greece

[feral belfry]

well it certainly is strong

just did 1k+ damage with a swing

[brisk trail]

and you're tanky too (weak + aura)

[feral belfry]

It's soooo slow tho

[manic bobcat]

Below FO2 it's not that bad

On FO2 you probably want to dash strike a bit more, depending on the enemies.

[brisk trail]

not sure if you already know you can special + dash

[manic bobcat]

You can swing + dash

And I'm not taking about the dash strike

Your third swing can be done with a dash to reposition

[brisk trail]

so have you guys buy every thing from the shop

it takes quite a lot of gem

[gray apex]

What shop

[brisk trail]

the contractor

[manic bobcat]

Yeah

Late game

There are even more cosmetics called badges

Those are the real pain

[brisk trail]

yeah that too

[manic bobcat]

Yee

I think the fountain is the one that costs the most gems

They do look cool though

[brisk trail]

does heat affect gem and darkness bonus

[manic bobcat]

No

Well technically you get more darkness

By staying on lower heat

[brisk trail]

wait how come

[manic bobcat]

Because bosses drop darkness instead of blood

And you clear faster

Cause easier

[brisk trail]

ah yes that's true

hm but I gotta get all titan blood for the weapon too

[manic bobcat]

Yeah, in which case just rotate Dark Thirst then

[brisk trail]

yeah that's what I do

[manic bobcat]

And take Poseidon on Asphodel

For bounty boons

That's what I would do

[lapis shore]

Finally beat him

Had a really dumb cheese build

Athena call, and super fast God gauge

I was immune like half the fight

[brisk trail]

if it works then it's not dumb

[lapis shore]

Just memey

[brisk trail]

hm can athena call at high enough level give you total immunity

[lapis shore]

I mean mine was for 2 seconds

Every use

[brisk trail]

oh it takes 5s to charge

[gray apex]

Smoldering cap

It cant give you total immunity I think

Unless you mean lv100 or something

But I doubt that lasts for 1-2 minutes

[brisk trail]

still that's more than enough leeway in the fight

[lapis shore]

Can I not give persephone a nectar the first time

[gray apex]

If you use something like Hangover Chiron even with a lv3-4 call you can have it up for a very long time

Because you charge it so quickly

You could get a full call 3-4 times maybe

[brisk trail]

I see

[feral belfry]

arthur with demeter special made hades move at a snails pace

kind of cool

for "vanquish extreme measures Theseus, then speak to Poseidon" Do I have to do it in one run?

[gray apex]

Nah

[lapis shore]

who's the worst god do yall think?

[gray apex]

Hades

[rapid forum]

Dude's only got one boon smh

[gray apex]

I don’t think there are bad gods for real

Some bad boons tho

That are very tough to make work

[feral belfry]

will scintillating feast block out ice wine

[gray apex]

They’re only a handful

No it wont

You can have both

[feral belfry]

nice

pretty dope combo

I did not thing to make Achilles aspect a cast build but it works very well

[bitter rover]

you have to wait until after you see the credits roll (just keep playing)

[bitter rover]

i had both yesterday

also

i need help with the adamant rail

I'm awful at it

[gray apex]

zap

[feral belfry]

zeus zap zap

[devout terrace]

Turn off aim at cursor if you're on kbm

[bitter rover]

kbm?

[gray apex]

if you're not on kbm just get gud

[bitter rover]

keyboard mouse

[gray apex]

yes

[bitter rover]

i play on my switch

i got to hades second bar earlier today with eris lvl 1

[gray apex]

Are you using Zap

Or something else

Well it doesnt have to be literally Zap

you can do Zeus attack + static discharge and look for Divine Dash and some % special

[bitter rover]

it was a pretty bad run honestly, but i had Dionysus in both attack and special

[gray apex]

For more safety

[bitter rover]

and divine dash

[gray apex]

And try to get used to absorbing your Spceial often

[bitter rover]

how do i absorb it

[gray apex]

It should have a circle on the ground where its gonna land

You just have to be inside that/ close enough to it

If you have Rocket bomb just kiss some enemy and use your special

or a wall

[devout terrace]

Rail benefits a ton from leveling up

[gray apex]

Yea Eris' passive is global dmg

[bitter rover]

yes but I'm bad at the game

[devout terrace]

https://www.hades-guides.ovh/index.php/eris-rail-guide/ try this build

[bitter rover]

so no spare blood

oh nice

what does absorbing do

[gray apex]

gives you the passive

for 4 seconds

[devout terrace]

Mike meant just standing in your special

[gray apex]

free dmg

Yea

[devout terrace]

On lv5 eris its 75% global damage

Which is frickin insane

[gray apex]

very gaming

[bitter rover]

I'll read the guide

but i feel I'm doing something wrong

like mechanically

should i use the special more

or the attack more

at the end i was spamming special but that didn't do much damage

[gray apex]

When entering a room you basically wanna throw your Special and get the buff asap

Then its just holding down your attack really lol

And using your Special whenever you run out of ammo to cancel the reload animation and refresh the buff

[devout terrace]

Well you had Dio special

[gray apex]

Yea flat dmg is good on fast attacks, if you wanna try Dio it should be on your attack instead

big chunks want % dmg

Arty/Aphro

The guide covers everything I think

Should be a good starting point

[bitter rover]

so basically Zeus attack, poseidon dash

and more Zeus on special

[gray apex]

Special should be %
Zeus is flat dmg

[gray apex]

After this you basically want Static Discharge from Zeus and some Poseidon wouldnt hurt too, Razor Shoals, breaking wave

[bitter rover]

who gives percentage damage, artemis and aphrodite?

[gray apex]

More Zeus would either mean Zeus Call + Double strike -> Splitting
Or Storm Lightning -> Splitting

[gray apex]

Aphro Artemis Demeter Athena

And Poseidon

But you usually want other stuff from Poseidon first

So the other 4 gods are better in that slot

Also opens up Duos depending on what other stuff you have

Lightning Rod/ Smoldering Air

etc

Aphro and Artemis take priority in that slot because of the better duos and better dmg overall

But others are fine as mentioned, Demeter + Killing Freeze, Poseidon + Wave pounding maybe, Athena is pretty good defensively, can be a bit tough to use

[devout terrace]

Athena special is good because you open proud bearing up

But probably not too important for casual play

[gray apex]

Yea that's good

And DDs

Might need em

[bitter rover]

[feral belfry]

[gray apex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/523766637757726722/835126879341772810/bouldypet.gif

[fast willow]

proud bearing hades call stonks

[old tapir]

What happens if you have proud bearing and aether net at the same time? Because neither of them has a + before the %, I figure it would just default to proud bearing? is it even possible to have them at the same time

Also what happens if you have epic proud bearing (30%) and smoldering air (max 25%)? Does it just get knocked down to the 25%

Also also, are the only ways to get heroic boons "replace an epic boon with a boon in the same slot" and "eurydice ambrosia delight"? can an upgraded boon selection contain heroic boons that would have been epic before, or does boon upgradement (from boss rooms in styx, yarn, eurydice refreshing nectar) cap out at epic

I think that's all the burning noobish questions I have rn

[runic parrot]

first one i think the higher percentage one just takes over

[devout terrace]

Wrong

They're additive

[runic parrot]

are they?

huh

[old tapir]

Wait what? Bc neither has a plus before the % like with crit chance and dmg boost

[devout terrace]

Max 25% at the start of each room

[devout terrace]

C r o p

[old tapir]

aah of course

I actualy don't think I've taken that boon. I've seen it but she always had another one I wanted urgently, and it's not necessary for the prophecy so I dont think I've taken it. is it good?

[devout terrace]

Situational since its RNG which boon it hits

Probably dont want to take it in late elysium

But good in tartarus if you get like 3 common boons at the start

They'II be heroic by elysium

[old tapir]

but the second part of my question- does boon pre-upgrading via yarn/eurydice nectar/boss room in styx cap out at epic if you aren't offered a slot replacement?

[cursive nova]

hello anyone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=28&v=xQn3tO3zfUY&feature=emb_title

look this Turkish make Turkish trailer with own budget

and they want help with Super giant team help for this project and make full Turkish dubbing and support

[spice hearth]

yep, epic is the cap unless it's a replacement boon

there are only 3 ways to get heroic boons: Eurydice, Replacements, and Rare Crop

[polar marsh]

Imagine greek language dub option

[brisk trail]

The sun explodes

[twin thistle]

all damage

[karmic pond]

It's all damage, think of it like pressure points

[gray apex]

Sell it -> take Shackle -> value gaming

[upbeat lodge]

y do i get a natural artemis, pos, and second cast on my beo run when tking a break from 32

oh also srost cast

[brisk trail]

Athena!

[versed mason]

he do that

[bitter rover]

ALMOST made it with the eris build

[lone kernel]

do it again, youll get it this time if you got close last time

[bitter rover]

yeah what really messed it up was dying to theseus

i need to practice the reload

i should prooobably remap it

i feel the current key makes me loose time

since on switch is pressing the right joystick

maybe press down the left joystick so i can do it as i move?

[lone kernel]

yes, 100%

[bitter rover]

nice

[lone kernel]

yeah the right joystick like

put the codex there and move cast to L1

[bitter rover]

yeah moving my thumb makes me loose being able to fire it

[lone kernel]

exactly

[bitter rover]

oh that's another good idea

[lone kernel]

yeah - it's not too game changing for Eris, but when you're using cast aspects like beowulf and hera, that changes them from awkward to incredible

just like, while we're here l ol

[twin thistle]

can also put it on a shoulder button like right or left trigger

[gray apex]

can put it on your mouse button and use controller + mouse like real gamers

[twin thistle]

elite rail strats

[bitter rover]

didn't get bond forged with dusa

[twin thistle]

takes a couple convos after the last ambrosia

[feral belfry]

Does anyone know how to get "popper" from a pact of punished benefit package?

I don't really get the prophecy

[gray apex]

Use Benefits package

[twin thistle]

elysium dudes

[gray apex]

And get to elysium

Then pray

[twin thistle]

bp2 elysium

[feral belfry]

oh it's RNG?

[twin thistle]

yeah

[feral belfry]

but gotta use thjat pact

[twin thistle]

like bp gives a random trait

helps to use bp2

[gray apex]

Yea BP1 = 1 trait

BP2 = 2 traits

= more fun

[feral belfry]

and it has to be bp2

[twin thistle]

no

[feral belfry]

oh

[twin thistle]

just way easier to get the trait

because ya know

[gray apex]

It doesnt but since BP2 gives 2 traits its higher chance you see them

[twin thistle]

ya got 2

[feral belfry]

double

the fun

ok thanks

[gray apex]

Imagine entering a room and being so happy to see this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/841266682072530956/918582564699115520/vlc_hej8SB6tIm.jpg

Couldnt be me

[twin thistle]

[thick cypress]

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[feral belfry]

wait I just spoke to Poseidon after beating EM3 and I didn't get the Prophecy

Is it RNG?

[mint coral]

If you get the requirements for the dialogue its rng wheb it actually mentions yeah

If you have any other story bits going on those may have priority iver the one you want

[feral belfry]

got it thanks

Does guan yu make hearts give you less max hp too?

haven't paid attention but I've picked up like 4-5 and I"m only at 115

[mint coral]

yes

[twin thistle]

lvl 1 high confidence guan yu stonks

[feral belfry]

anti stonks

[mint coral]

dont forget a Chaos -hp curse

[devout terrace]

Life affirmation is crazy good on guan because of this

But its manageable

[twin thistle]

wait actually are guan yu passive and life affirmation additive or multiplicative

[bitter rover]

i did it!

[devout terrace]

Definitely multiplicative I think

Because you get like 17 per heart on common life affirmation max guan yu

Additive would be 20

[twin thistle]

not stonks

[devout terrace]

[twin thistle]

sir pls turn on dark foresight

[feral belfry]

I did not make a good build ugh

[bitter rover]

but I'm getting keys and gems and darkness atm

i had it on until i realized that's why i was getting so little gems

[twin thistle]

just get gems from bossess

and troves

chambers give basically nothing

dark foresight = stonks build = faster clear/higher heat clear = more rewards = stonks

[bitter rover]

got any chiron builds

wait there's a channel for that

[bitter rover]

how come nobody ever talks about lucifer

also time to try guyan yu 🥴

it's level one though

should i level it up first

[chrome wharf]

because it's clunky to play on controller and doesn't really do anything that another rail can't, outside of power washer

[lone kernel]

Guan yu blood upgrades make a big difference. Not like Excalibur where unlock it and you’re good to go

[brisk trail]

you can get a conversation about luci going if you want to

[brisk crescent]

play on kbm

[lapis shore]

Beat dad again, is there a point where the story stops progressing?

[full estuary]

Yeah. Keep beating him until you see the credits, and then the game will tell you what to do to progress the main story further.

[lapis shore]

How many times do u have to beat him?

[chrome wharf]

10

[feral belfry]

Aspect of Lucifer seems kinda bad?

[twin thistle]

its decent with triple bomb

its also a lot less decent without triple bomb

[bleak karma]

bbbut lazer...

[twin thistle]

laser pointer

[brisk trail]

👵

[chrome wharf]

Power washer fun tho

[jovial whale]

it with hangover is really fun

makes a wine gun

[feral belfry]

I could see that

[real wadi]

Is gilgamesh good?

The aspect

[brisk trail]

I’m assuming there’s no new updates or dlc coming for this game

[gentle ingot]

But! There will always be more games

[rapid forum]

you can beat a run with it, it's pretty bad in high heat.

though dash build with it is really fun

[gentle ingot]

Perhaps we'll get "Olympus" at some point in the distant future

[lament night]

10 to reach credits, a lot to get to epilogue

[lone kernel]

Yep. Better than getting three crap boons

[twin thistle]

well legendaries are harder to get if they were about equal

[faint burrow]

I can clear heat 20 with excalibur 5x faster than heat 9 knuckles

#makeknucklesgreatagain

[mint coral]

Can we talk you about our lord and savior merciful end?

Or just plain lightning strike ehich is comfy

[faint burrow]

the rifle with beam mod and lightning on attack is kinda funny

[oak ibex]

And I have yet another reason to believe that Supergiant is pushing forth the bisexual agenda (and winning)
And I, as a fellow bisexual, fully support this message
https://twitter.com/SkySafeArts/status/1468937252697001985?s=20

sky guy (@SkySafeArts)

After 4 hours of hades gameplay my bisexuality has increased in every single direction.

Retweets

106

Likes

833

Twitter · Dec 9, 2021, 1:35 PM

[chrome wharf]

You either confirm you're bi or confirm you're definitely not

[oak ibex]

And the latter is usually done in a similar vein to the bi awakening

[chrome wharf]

After seeing people thirst over Nyx and Persephone while I feel nothing is like "ok yeah I'm really not into girls"

[oak ibex]

I love how it has been confirmed that the art was intentionally drawn like that and I'm over here sweating buckets like "THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT SHOULD BE LEGAL TO DRAW THEM THAT ATTRACTIVE"

[chrome wharf]

my feminine attraction stops at Athena boons

[oak ibex]

My attraction towards feminine-presenting people presents itself differently than masculine-presenting people

As for those who defy gender roles? Yes, I am attracted to them both out of fear and respect

Yes, that applies to Master Chaos

[bitter rover]

and to charon?

i stopped feeling attracted towards nyx when zagreus said she's like her mother

[lapis shore]

persephone is old as crap

[narrow hemlock]

they're gods, they're ageless 😭 time is a relative concept to them

[lapis shore]

idk I just thought persephone would be hotter tbh

[deep pivot]

Persephone is beautiful
I love her appearance, voice, demeanor, everything about her frankly

[weary lantern]

Persephone can step on me

[lapis shore]

oh god and then u have weird fanart

[rapid forum]

well your expectation failed you

[lapis shore]

learning "Good Riddance" on guitar is not "beginner" like this site suggests lmfao

it should be more like "really hard"

[chrome wharf]

yeah music difficulty can be subjective at times

[lapis shore]

I mean that difficulty was based by the music creators themselves

I assume for a genius, nothing is very hard lol

[chrome wharf]

Oh proficient people definitely underestimate difficulties

I keep thinking I'm only intermediate at piano until I look at "intermediate" books

thanks to years of knowing doctorate piano students

[lapis shore]

Yea, the soundtrack and the guitar parts in them are amazing in this game. Just seem difficult to learn

[bitter rover]

I'm having the worst run

mid elysium i JUST filled my special (with whatever) while using the chiron bow

[brisk trail]

Chiron bow = heck yes

I guess technically all the weapons are a heck yes

[bitter rover]

FINALLY

charon sold me artemis special

for 450 but it's something

getting ice wine in elysium saved me

[lapis shore]

are cast builds even good?

[bitter rover]

yes

they're probably one of the most op

especially because you can keep poming them

anyways i did it, 8 heat finished

[lone kernel]

They can be, it’s a different way to build that takes some getting used to

[twin thistle]

if you want to kill dad in less than 30 seconds, the easiest way is prolly with a cast build

[bitter rover]

sack in the fifth chamber

i think the game hates me

that aside just had a good eris run

even though hades almost killed me

[calm zenith]

Cast builds usually take a few more boons but yeah they also probably have the highest dps ceiling

Hunting blades works really well on Hades, and it's pretty safe too

4 on Achilles with engulfing should eat through a phase

Maybe not on very high heat. Then again it depends on other boons, since cast builds have a high ceiling

The highest heat record is with hunting blades right? Or a previous record?

[rapid forum]

hey at least you're not me

[chrome wharf]

sack in the 6th chamber??

[rapid forum]

I got 2 sac or 3 sac, went to bathroom, forgot I had it, then went on for another tunnel runs

[calm zenith]

When you get a 2 sack but do all 5 still

[bitter rover]

charon had the sack

[rapid forum]

I was not very smart

[calm zenith]

What if charon could sell the sack

For 1000

[rapid forum]

I'd steal it

[calm zenith]

No other way of getting it

[rapid forum]

[bitter rover]

does anyone have the link to that guide

that had smaller guides on all weapons

[chrome wharf]

The fight is Charon and dad tag team

[rapid forum]

EM5

kek

I'd die

[bitter rover]

nvm i found it

how hard is em3?

[rapid forum]

Asterius has a major upgrade

Theseus, not so much

he's easier to some

and I find him easier

but Asterius is the one you should look out for

[devout terrace]

The main challenge is dealing with asterius while dodging theseus

[bitter rover]

I'm about to try 9 heat 😪

[calm zenith]

Asterius gets a very special attack that you need to run away from

[devout terrace]

Yeah you cant block it

[bitter rover]

don't plan on doing em3 rn though

[devout terrace]

Not for more than a second

[calm zenith]

It's not too bad. Just that and some other stuff can do a lot of damage fast

[chrome wharf]

You can bull rush through it

[calm zenith]

Yeah

And ranged ofc

Maybe not base rail

[bitter rover]

does em3 change the miniboss too

also im doing dio eris

it's strong

[high island]

Yes, it changes solo Asterius.

[bitter rover]

grape gun

[bitter rover]

nice

[high island]

Solo Asterius isn't affected by Middle Management, though.

[vapid narwhal]

and thank god for that

[high island]

Which one?

[bitter rover]

alright i just spent 10 ambrosia on an ui instead of deepening my friendship with mom, achilles and patroclus

[rapid forum]

Lady Artemis of course

[gray apex]

Lol

10 Ambrosia well spent

[bitter rover]

[high island]

If it wasn't 15, it wasn't the right choice.

[halcyon girder]

Cerberus abandoned his post in order to eat

[high island]

Good for Cerberus.

[halcyon girder]

He a good boi

So um how many times do I have to beat Hades?

To get the true ending

Hey I'm almost at 100 escape attempts

[rapid forum]

if by that you mean epilogue, you need to max relationships with the gods

your mileage may vary

[halcyon girder]

Wait you telling me I need to give ambrosia to all of them

[rapid forum]

yes

[halcyon girder]

mentally screaming

Wait this including hades and Persephone?

[rapid forum]

no

well

um

[halcyon girder]

;-;

mentally screaming again

[rapid forum]

I think they count? it should be to a point where persephone has a plan to gather every gods

[halcyon girder]

I know I know

God damn it

And it's gonna be hard too cuz ambrosia and nectar are hectic to find

[rapid forum]

have fun

[halcyon girder]

I hate and love this game

[rapid forum]

I was too drunk on buildmaking to actually do this lol

and I was like

170 attempts in? when I finally did epilogue

and even then I already gave them nectars and all

[high island]

Ending is after 10 clears. Epilogue is well after that, as Fluffy Bun explained.

[quartz tendon]

so, I arrived at styx with all my failsafes, but I wasted all of them there (I hate those rats), but now Hades is letting me pass without a fight

this is my lucky day

[lone kernel]

Just a courtesy heads up that’s a one time thing

[bleak karma]

is rama bow that good

feels like im just doing something wrong here

[brisk trail]

you tag enemies with your special and then do massive dmg with your attacks

its very good

[devout terrace]

Get twin shot

Its even better than triple

Then point blank or perfect for your second hammer

Aphrodite attack hunter dash

[bleak karma]

my bow is going to get all 4 aspects all fully maxed first

holy

all 4 are so good

[gray apex]

True

[bleak karma]

last time i tried rama tho

it went

poorly

[gray apex]

It takes practice

Get used to powershotting

[bleak karma]

just not enough play time i think

i tried the base bow cus the cat dude told me to

kinda good

i think i need to get more practice tho cus i always only focus on the powershot and then i forget to dodge and take dmg

[empty pelican]

how exactly do I get to the epilogue? do I just keep doing runs and escaping like I did for the ending or are there conditions that need to be met?

[bleak karma]

whats a base bow society

[chrome wharf]

If you put doom on Rama special you don't even need to attack (up to a certain heat, maybe)

It's a society where we sip tea and play Zag bow

[bleak karma]

bond with every gods

i think

[gray apex]

Just get Concentrated on Rama

[bleak karma]

u need to

[gray apex]

[bleak karma]

but why tea

when u can drink water

[chrome wharf]

tasty

[bleak karma]

tea is just leaves in water

[chrome wharf]

more caffeine than water

any drink is just stuff in water

[bleak karma]

lernie be like mmm yes tasty magma

tasty fire in water

[chrome wharf]

by that logic why eat variable food when you can just drink nutrient shakes

[devout terrace]

Shoo now, play zag bow

[bleak karma]

yes

[gray apex]

The bows are basically 3 zag bows and 1 Rama anyway

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/835377117616668692.gif?size=96

[bleak karma]

u are kinda right

[chrome wharf]

There's also a bunch of dialogue with Hades, Persephone, Demeter and Zeus you need to clean out

[devout terrace]

Ocaml POV

[chrome wharf]

Zag bow, lamer funny Zag bow, nukey Zag bow, Rama

[empty pelican]

but I never use Demeter or Zeus smh this is going to take a while

are there any specific gods I give my nectar to or just all of them

[chrome wharf]

Demeter is the easiest one

What weapons do you like

[bleak karma]

i dont ever use dio and demeter

[empty pelican]

beowulf mainly but I'm having alot of fun with aspect of chiron bow so ig that to

[bleak karma]

anything i can slap dio on?

[gray apex]

Use icy flare

There you go

problem solved

[bleak karma]

demeter i use sometimes but i seldom take dio

[chrome wharf]

For Beowulf you can take Demeter's keepsake in Asphodel and get Snow Burst, it's basically the meta build

[bleak karma]

oh yeah i had a blast playing that

breezed through hades

kinda nuts

[high island]

Try Chiron with Heartbreak Strike + Drunken Flourish and get their Duo Boon. And make sure you use Privileged Status for the build.

[empty pelican]

yeah I'll do that then

[chrome wharf]

And then Sea Storm for Chiron, so you can fit in Zeus that way

[bleak karma]

thx will try

[empty pelican]

Poseidon on special?

[chrome wharf]

yes

[bleak karma]

i like dio as a character but sometimes i feel like the max 5 stacks of hangover is pretty limiting

[empty pelican]

alright thanks

[bleak karma]

idk i just dont like limits

[high island]

Low Tolerance will increase it to 8 stacks.

[empty pelican]

one more thing, any specific dialogue to look out for and know I can stop talking to the gods after or just keep talking

[bleak karma]

oh wow

[gray apex]

5 is enough anyway

It can do a lot of damage

[bleak karma]

and its bow again ofc

bow solves all problem

[high island]

Just keep talking pretty much. It's not like you can choose to avoid any of the gods forever.

[chrome wharf]

It's somewhere on the wiki

[gray apex]

kill people

[bleak karma]

nvm ill just check da wiki

[high island]

Foes.

[gray apex]

kill everyone

[high island]

Doesn't need to be people.

[bleak karma]

my demeter favor still stuck there

[chrome wharf]

Most of the foes were people

[bleak karma]

wdym kill people

[high island]

Doesn't unlock until after the epilogue.

[bleak karma]

oh so i dont need to do it now

k thx

[high island]

Well, there's nothing you can do now.

The epilogue is what unlocks it.

[bleak karma]

yeah that too lol

[chrome wharf]

Demeter up to the lock counts for the epilogue conditions though

[high island]

Demeter - Up to the Lock

Sounds like a rap album.

[bleak karma]

if demeter used to use fists as weapons she might as well be a rapper and i wont even be surprised

grandma rap

[high island]

She'd just be dissing everybody.

[upbeat lodge]

i have smoldering air setup, sea storm, and sweet nectar as well as serrated point and pos attack in tartarus

[gray apex]

Serrated stonks

[fast willow]

i wish grandma had better multipliers on her boons

[gray apex]

She has killing freeze

[high island]

Can't pom any of her t2, either. So you just need good rarity on them.

[upbeat lodge]

grandma isnt in hades. that wouldve been rea? did i miss a joke?

[high island]

Well, Glacial Glare poms are doable.

[fast willow]

glacial glare in itself is weird to me

[chrome wharf]

That's already what she does in the game

[fast willow]

i feel like crystal beam should freeze on its own?

[chrome wharf]

don't we all

[fast willow]

and not require a second boon + duo to be servicable

[gray apex]

Are you no longer an AP2 enjoyer

[chrome wharf]

ironically after I changed my name I got an AP2 win

[gray apex]

[devout terrace]

[high island]

It's more than servicable when it gets going. It's playing the game for you lol.

[fast willow]

ok yeah crystal clarity is very good

but without it its soooo bad

[gray apex]

Cold Embrace gud

[high island]

Yeah, Cold Embrace is decent.

[fast willow]

wait cold embrace talos actually sounds decent

[chrome wharf]

I can enjoy base bow and AP2 at the same time

[fast willow]

talos is a castspect after all

[gray apex]

True

[chrome wharf]

base bow easier to recruit tho

[gray apex]

Talos is a MEspect

[fast willow]

dont you mean:
budget demeter is a MEspect

[high island]

Talos is an automaton.

[lone kernel]

wait yes

doing this

based

[gray apex]

Just take an Ares boon

problem solved

[devout terrace]

ares and demeter are probably the most destructive

aphrodite is very similar too

[gray apex]

True

[copper bobcat]

TIL u can get a duo

Double duo *p

[bitter oriole]

theseus calling in demeter is the absolute worst

[copper bobcat]

I got exclusive access and ice wine, went for a Demeter-Dino-Aphro build

Well I still need to roll an Aphro ult

That thing is too stupidly good to give up

[devout terrace]

it can screw you over sometimes

like if you're attacking dad it will make him interrupt his current attack animation, and go for a different one, which is disorienting

[copper bobcat]

Update 3 duos

[copper bobcat]

The max special I mean

Any suggestions for handling Hades? Chiron Demeter Poseidon Dino build with Aphro on attack

Yeah no I need Aphro Ult

Bow doesn’t do enough DPS before my revives go down

[devout terrace]

You really dont

[copper bobcat]

I’m pretty bad at hades

Rip the triple duo set

Yeah rip I need Aphro Ult

I’m struggling with Hades pretty hard

Nvm I have a 4 star companion

Just copped

Don’t need Aphro Ult anymore

Fighting early Charon for the first time oops

Yeah had to reset Charon chunked my ass

[lone kernel]

charon in tartarus is tough

and you said youre bad

itll be easier in elysium

[manic moat]

is the

out of tartarus soundtrack

in 11/8

for the middle part

[lone kernel]

?

[manic moat]

when it switches to electric for the first time

those bars

[lone kernel]

the version on my spotify that im lookin at right now has the electric piece start at 2:58 in a 5:53 song

[copper bobcat]

Yea not good yet

I was able to run around tart for the most part, but tripped up a lot

[lone kernel]

for newer players, charon in tartarus is pretty much a run ender

[copper bobcat]

Yeah

[lone kernel]

tbh, charon in elysium will probably cost you a defiance

[copper bobcat]

I started playing two days ago

[lone kernel]

yeah, no shame in that

[copper bobcat]

Yeah

[lone kernel]

took me 45 tries to win once

[copper bobcat]

Hades is still rough

[lone kernel]

14 to beat meg once

now ive played 445 runs woof

[copper bobcat]

And it sometimes takes me a defiance to take down the 3rd bosses

[lone kernel]

yeah thats normal

[copper bobcat]

Thesus is a bruh moment

[lone kernel]

dont be too hard on yourself

[copper bobcat]

The fight is fine aside from that

Yeah

[lone kernel]

also kill the minotaur first

and try not to get theseus to half before mino is dead

[copper bobcat]

I see

[lone kernel]

yea if you phase theseus, he gets random AOE god attacks

[copper bobcat]

I’ve usually been getting both down to half

[lone kernel]

which is way easier to avoid if the minotaur isnt chasing you

phased minotaur speeds up

[copper bobcat]

With a Zeus Dino rail build they get clapped

Makes sense

[lone kernel]

yeah

it sounds like youre on the right track, just gotta clean up a few things

[copper bobcat]

The Meg pet is so good

[lone kernel]

yep

[copper bobcat]

I upgraded it to 4 uses

[lone kernel]

well on the theseus mino fight specifically

[copper bobcat]

One for hades another for Thesus probably

[devout terrace]

When I was playing casually I swear I wanted theseus dead every time I started a new run

[copper bobcat]

Oh right

[lone kernel]

right as it starts, take one step up and immediately meg

[copper bobcat]

Mhm

[lone kernel]

youll hit both, guaranteed

[copper bobcat]

Yeah

[lone kernel]

(then leave theseus alone til u kill minotaur)

[devout terrace]

As in up arrow then meg

[copper bobcat]

I wanna combo Meg with Mino as well

Meg with Aphro *

[lone kernel]

yeah, if i 1v1 minotaur, i meg it every time lol

[copper bobcat]

The Aphro Max ult is a free Meg

It decimates bosses

[lone kernel]

the call?

[copper bobcat]

Yeah

[devout terrace]

Yeah its good, but getting that call buildup is hard on some weapons

[lone kernel]

my friend have you heard of Smoldering Air

[devout terrace]

Chiron usually has it best

[copper bobcat]

I won against Hades three times in a row because of that

[copper bobcat]

What is that

Oh yes

I used that in my last Hades beat

[lone kernel]

Zeus Aphrodite duo boon. max call gauge is 25%, but it auto refills (0 to max in 5 seconds, not counting damage you do)

[copper bobcat]

Mf barely moved

[lone kernel]

literally aphrodite attack, zeus call, jolted and that

[copper bobcat]

Yeah

[lone kernel]

will hard carry you

[copper bobcat]

Mhm

[lone kernel]

like, i do 30-40 heat usually, i still use it lol

[copper bobcat]

Why do people say Zeus call is good

[lone kernel]

Poseidon's aid is tough to pull off but its basically auto win with ripcurrent

[copper bobcat]

I should max out Meg right

Probably reserve one use for Charon’s fight if it comes up

Unless there’s something better

[lone kernel]

because it fills a smoldering air requirement, it deals roughly 300 total damage in an AOE, and when you add other zeus boons like Jolted and Double Strike, it gets to be push button guys die

[gray apex]

Zeus Call is so much dmg if you have a couple more Zeus boons and a pom maybe

[lone kernel]

pom double strike

[copper bobcat]

I see

[karmic pond]

Basically

They say it's good because it's good

Also helps that Zeus gives a boon that increases damage after using calls, which with Smair is basically another permanent damage increase

[copper bobcat]

Err

Unhealthy fixation or Aphro call

I just rolled Fixation

It has a chance to charm

Ffs I monke’d and lost two revives

Before Elysian

I’m finding Chiron is struggling a ton with shielded enemies

[bitter rover]

playing baseball with Aphrodite attack on Excalibur

[devout terrace]

Piercing volley

[copper bobcat]

I have

[devout terrace]

Then how is it struggling if the shots are piercing

[copper bobcat]

Wait

Nvm wrote one

[devout terrace]

If you dont have concentrated volley, chiron really struggles with damage in general

[chrome wharf]

Fixation is good if your Weak source is fast

[bitter rover]

i set heat at 4 when i needed to set it on 5 🥴

[brisk trail]

Enjoy the Hades fight tho

[chrome wharf]

I actually did EM4 with UF fists, your point?

[polar marsh]

I enjoyed the hades cameo at the 2021 game awards

[bitter rover]

best sword aspect?

[gray apex]

Nemesis

[chrome wharf]

Nemesis

[devout terrace]

[bitter rover]

why's that

[gray apex]

Because it's fast and does massive dmg and has pretty good heat resistance

free crit chance

good apparently

[polar marsh]

Basically best dash crit sword

[copper bobcat]

Got Patroclus and got all my revives back pog

[bitter rover]

can't find a nemesis build

[brisk trail]

artemis attack aphro special or just artemis attack

they are simple

you can add divine dash for safety

[devout terrace]

Merciful end so you dont have to depend on getting double edge

[bitter rover]

doing merciful end + artemis attack

oh wait

i need athena on attack

or should i do ares on attack?

[gray apex]

Ares

[chrome wharf]

tripleA - Aphrodite Attack, Artemis Cast, Athena special and dash, look for Heart Rend and deadly Reversal

[high island]

That's just a worse version of Deadly Strike + Heartbreak Flourish + Heart Rend.

[gray apex]

Well your Aphro attack can proc off of your Nem passive

Which I like a lot more than the extra crit chance

[chrome wharf]

Weren't you just saying sometimes back that relying on your special is not always ideal

[gray apex]

Very gaming if you ask me

[high island]

Huh?

If I go for Heartbreak Strike, I'll look for Smair and Heart Rend. Not really bothering with Deadly Reversal.

[chrome wharf]

Something about Poseison being equally as good as Nemesis because it doesn't rely on the "slow" special that leaves you vulnerable in order to boost damage output

[high island]

Yeah, but that doesn't mean I would play worse Nemesis.

[lone kernel]

I don’t think there’s really enough sources of weak/crit/deflect that deadly reversal and heart rend is not clunky

Aphro dash means can only use special to deflect which kinda sus

But Aphro cast is, despite being the best boon in the game, not the easiest to use to get reliable week

wave of despair stonks

[high island]

I went for that all the time in Early Access, but it doesn't really work well anymore with all the restrictions on Deadly Reversal now.