The aspect is absolutely terrible but it’s a good thing we have ME to carry those kinds of bad aspects
#h1-discussion
reef zodiac
untold garnet
the funny magma place
signal aspen
the funny magma place
i would go pom
untold garnet
ight
reef zodiac
Do you guys use PStatus on ME builds?
signal aspen
no
untold garnet
man i love cerberus's collar
brisk trail
Death is happening to me
untold garnet
free hp
reef zodiac
But what about Acorn? That’s my go-to defensive keepsake
5 hits from a boss usually ends up being a lot more than 50 damage
signal aspen
acorn is great
reef zodiac
Acorn is super good
untold garnet
hell i actually just got it
signal aspen
nice
brisk trail
I'm at heat 45 and I am at the beginning. I'm already crying
signal aspen
I'm at heat 45 and I am at the beginning. I'm already crying
to make you feel better i beat 50 heat in 12 mins
and i beat 50 heat without getting hit
brisk trail
thanks I guess
signal aspen
(during the final boss fight)
untold garnet
the final boss is hades right?
brisk trail
yes
untold garnet
ok good
boreal gale
Zeus boons on Rail just seem unfair
untold garnet
are they any good on rail?
signal aspen
Zeus boons on Rail just seem unfair
ok but have you tried lightning strike hestia 
boreal gale
I had Zeus Special, Attack, Cast. And jolted.
untold garnet
i always go for the dionysus boons
boreal gale
I have not even unlocked hestia
signal aspen
are they any good on rail?
they are great
boreal gale
Zeus attack murders everything
signal aspen
and with the eris buff it destroys enemies
untold garnet
also what we use ambrosia for
i keep on getting it and i just give it to the shop dude
signal aspen
after you complete a characters favor you can give them ambrosia
untold garnet
do you get anything special?
mint coral
also what we use ambrosia for
To keep bribing your friends
brisk trail
keepsakes
signal aspen
do you get anything special?
for most characters no
some characters give you companions tho
untold garnet
bruh momento
boreal gale
You can get summons with Ambrosia from certain characters
untold garnet
wait theres companions in this game??
signal aspen
yeah
untold garnet
pog of u
brisk trail
Dusa bae
reef zodiac
Chamber 5. 264 doom damage
boreal gale
I keep accidentally pressing my summon on ordinary rooms and then I just cry
boreal gale
2500 damage just wasted on a numbskull pog
mint coral
I keep accidentally pressing my summon on ordinary rooms and then I just cry
Try remapping?
boreal gale
**264 doom damage**
Get ME and murder everything
signal aspen
I keep accidentally pressing my summon on ordinary rooms and then I just cry
well stop doing that
reef zodiac
Get ME and murder everything
That’s the plan 
steady geyser
Is there somewhere I can find basic weapon stats, like dps and stuff for each weapon?
signal aspen
Is there somewhere I can find basic weapon stats, like dps and stuff for each we...
wiki probably has that
boreal gale
Yeah I'm also gonna remap my reload button
steady geyser
I looked at the infernal arms wiki page but it didn’t have stats
mint coral
Default reload in controller is pain
boreal gale
i keep on getting it and i just give it to the shop dude
I would do this until you get to the stage where you can unlock favours with a character
Then decide whether you wanna or not
dusky wedge
I looked at the infernal arms wiki page but it didn’t have stats
Check the individual weapons page there
boreal gale
I didn't even notice I got Lucifer Aspect for my rail lol
boreal gale
I died to lava
Top tip. Lava is painful. Don't stand in it.
mint coral
Thanks hypnos
brisk trail
you think right
signal aspen
i always stand in lava
untold garnet
same
brisk trail
My character freaked out and just had a mental breakdown
boreal gale
Excuse me so Lucifer Aspect is just a whole new weapon?
untold garnet
i love dipping my toes in lava and losing like 3 hearts
or hp
whatever its called
mint coral
Excuse me so Lucifer Aspect is just a whole new weapon?
Im firing my laserrrr
brisk trail
he just stood there
untold garnet
man how did you die to lava
mint coral
man how did you die to lava
By being stuck in a fishing animation
Or by dashing to the boat at 3hp, miss and ded
brisk trail
I got stuck on a boat trying to get on and my character just did not want to get on
untold garnet
fishing moment
steady geyser
Check the individual weapons page there
Thanks
boreal gale
I'm trying to decide if Lucifer is good or not?
brisk trail
bruh moment
mint coral
Is fun at least
dusky wedge
Happens to everyone at some point, lava is scary
brisk trail
it is alright tho. I did not have a great start
signal aspen
Excuse me *what*
ive died to lava by standing in lava at high heat trying to get rid of my SD that i already lost
wise oasis
Same!
signal aspen
wait that reminds me of this amazing haelian clip
boreal gale
No. That excuse me what was to the stupidity of Lucifer special
brisk trail
I will beat up skelly now
mint coral
No. That excuse me what was to the stupidity of Lucifer special
Land mines 
brisk trail
I am now going to do a run with Zeus shield
untold garnet
^clueless
mint coral
Do I want to Max out lucifer or Eris?
Max eris for easier bounties then max lucifer 
untold garnet
the rail with the burst special is too strong for its own good
i shred bone hyrdra within like a minute
boreal gale
the rail with the burst special is too strong for its own good
Dash striking intensifies
brisk trail
Hades baby game with Zeus shield
untold garnet
my first win was at like 17 with the gun
brisk trail
i got super lucky i got this 5 rocket rail like a shotgun
untold garnet
gun is too strong
boreal gale
315 back stab damage in giga cutter lol
brisk trail
yeah i used the gun too
signal aspen
i just got charged shot for the first time in like 10 runs
untold garnet
use the 3x burst special and every boss dies quick
signal aspen
and then i get barged
untold garnet
even hades
brisk trail
it took me so many because basically you know the mirror death defiances i didnt buy them cuz i thought it was a one time use so
brisk trail
I think half of the times I died was to advance the plot
but in the end i didnt need it anyway
untold garnet
i just insta bought the death defiance token
like i played without using the mirror until i got a token
took a while 😔
brisk trail
Heh I destroyed the sisters
Baby game with Zeus shield I say
wow nice heat
is 51 heat possible
reef zodiac
394 doom damage. Divine flourish and divine dash. But no Merciful End
mint coral
ME moment
reef zodiac
Luckily, I have an extra DD, so the damage alone might be enough for me to beat Hades
Because rn I’m entering Styx
There’s also a chance I get it in Styx but I’m not holding my breath bc I have no rolls
sick ibex
315 back stab damage in giga cutter lol
I was getting 805 backstab with the sword and the chop hammer mod. and hermes attack speed up 30% or something like that. took out pops round 1 in like 40 seconds lol
reef zodiac
Also if I get a 2-sack I might be able to enter the Hades fight with ToSD but idk because it’s kinda low
signal aspen
I was getting 805 backstab with the sword and the chop hammer mod. and hermes at...
only 805?
ive gotten 1900 dmg backstabs
mint coral
Arthur moment
wise oasis
Arthur backstab 
sick ibex
idk i felt pretty good about it for a poseiodon version of sword lol
reef zodiac
I was getting 805 backstab with the sword and the chop hammer mod. and hermes at...
What is “chop hammer mod”
wise oasis
World splitter
sick ibex
the one that gives you 1 slash
signal aspen
big chop
sick ibex
yeah thats the 1
reef zodiac
Oh lmao I thought you were talking about a mod
sick ibex
ohhh nah lol
brisk trail
3rd clear... I totally underestimated the bow special.
sick ibex
console babies dont get mods
reef zodiac
3rd clear... I totally underestimated the bow special.
Chiron? Or Zag bow?
Or based Rama
signal aspen
hera
mint coral
Crush shot goes brrr
reef zodiac
Hera and Achilles are like the two only aspects that I haven’t played in the last two weeks
wise oasis
Crush shot goes brrr
Crush shot? More like heartbreak flourish
reef zodiac
Because I already beat 32 heat with them lol
reef zodiac
Crush shot? More like heartbreak flourish
But… but why
wise oasis
But… but why
Yes
signal aspen
i think i havent played anything other than beowulf in a couple of weeks
wise oasis
Based
reef zodiac
i think i havent played anything other than beowulf in a couple of weeks
High heat runs?
Or speedrunning?
signal aspen
7:24
boreal gale
Easy 8 heat run?
signal aspen
RI4
boreal gale
Funny
brisk trail
i really dont understand the bow out of all the weapons i used
boreal gale
Is FO1 really that hard?
reef zodiac
Easy 8 heat run?
I mean pretty much any 8 heat combination of the following:
BP1/2
TD2/3
EM1/2
HL1/2
LC1/2
FO1
MM
reef zodiac
Is FO1 really that hard?
Nah. It’s harder, but it’s worth getting used to it early
signal aspen
tbh i wouldnt take bp2 at low heat
untold garnet
ayo i just got a duo boon that says that the minimum boon rarity i can find is epic?
signal aspen
you can get some bad bp combos
untold garnet
isnt that the 2nd highest tier???
reef zodiac
tbh i wouldnt take bp2 at low heat
Probably not, but you’ll have to take it eventually and it’s great to get practice
signal aspen
true
boreal gale
I'll use DC2 because malphon
twin thistle
isnt that the 2nd highest tier???
yeah under heroic
untold garnet
😳
reef zodiac
I'll use DC2 because malphon
Nah don’t do that
boreal gale
Free heat moment
wise oasis
I'd still stay off BP2 for a bit, can get the practice when it's more relevant. HL5 LC3 though :)
boreal gale
I'll still use DC1 then. Thats free
reef zodiac
Eww LC3? Why
wise oasis
Fun!
signal aspen
might as well skip 8 heat and do 9 heat with lc4
reef zodiac
I'll still use DC1 then. Thats free
I mean no, it’s still not. But you do you, doesn’t really matter lol it’s 8 heat
Exactly. LC3 is stupid
brisk trail
hi whats better heroic or legendary
reef zodiac
I’ve never done LC3
boreal gale
I've not really struggled with DC really
brisk trail
am i dumb for not getting a heroic
wise oasis
might as well skip 8 heat and do 9 heat with lc4
Lc4 isn't as dumb as lc3 though
signal aspen
hi whats better heroic or legendary
depends on the boon
manic bobcat
i really dont understand the bow out of all the weapons i used
what dont you get about it?
sweet basin
Any of you watching the Completionist video on Hades that just released?
signal aspen
like huge catch is way better than every heroic boon in the game
signal aspen
indeed
signal aspen
but you ever get heroic quick recovery
brisk trail
i literally fail at catcjing it
twin thistle
trade it in for materials
boreal gale
LC2 EM2 BP1 TD1
reef zodiac
but you ever get heroic quick recovery <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
Quick recovery
twin thistle
uh isnt the response time for a regular catch like 0.7s
brisk trail
what dont you get about it?
basically just seems weak to me
twin thistle
bow is pog
wise oasis
LC2 EM2 BP1 TD1
Lc2 kinda sucks
twin thistle
bow gang supremacy
signal aspen
bow is fun
twin thistle
just dash strike
boreal gale
Lc2 kinda sucks
What instead?
signal aspen
havent played it in like 5 years
brisk trail
im new kinda but outta all the weapons bow feels silly lol
reef zodiac
Bow is good, especially Rama and Hera and Chiron and Zag. Wait that’s every aspect.
manic bobcat
You need to learn the dash strike rhythm with the bow
untold garnet
i belive in adamant rail supremacy
twin thistle
yeah every bow aspect is great
signal aspen
Bow is good, especially Rama and Hera and Chiron and Zag. Wait that’s every aspe...
you forgot about the 5th aspect
manic bobcat
And the bow is one of the more hammer reliant weapons
wise oasis
What instead?
TD2 probably, you can probably finish in under 28 mins
brisk trail
ah
manic bobcat
You should try to find double or triple shot
reef zodiac
Why do all of the fist hammers suck?
manic bobcat
and the bow becomes much stronger
boreal gale
I'll slap on DC1 and keep LC1
twin thistle
And the bow is one of the more hammer reliant weapons
hera bow though lol
brisk trail
you know for spear am i wrong but the aspects seem kunda bad
errant root
Idk
errant root
I like the hades aspect
manic bobcat
Why do all of the fist hammers suck?
laughs in Breaching Cross and Explosive Upper
brisk trail
i loved the spear before i got the gun
same and thwn i saw the aspects and i was so confused
untold garnet
i never used the hold down feature though
brisk trail
no i love the spin
reef zodiac
Spear honestly is kinda bad tbh. Except for Flurry Jab and Achilles cast builds
manic bobcat
hera bow though lol
yeah, but still, i think flurry and something like double or triple are still big helps. but i see your point.
reef zodiac
Hades spear is probably my least favorite non-Zag aspect in the game
signal aspen
Hades spear is probably my least favorite non-Zag aspect in the game
gilgamesh?
boreal gale
Why do enemies have pink auras? What pact does that?
signal aspen
Why do enemies have pink auras? What pact does that?
bp
brisk trail
i think ill tryy the sword or shield next
errant root
Aspect of Arthur
reef zodiac
gilgamesh?
Gilgamesh is at least unique and also I can use Ruthless Reflex
errant root
If i remember correctly thats the name right?
boreal gale
Alrwad forgotten what BP is lol
signal aspen
Alrwad forgotten what BP is lol
it gives armored enemies buffs
boreal gale
Oh cool
void vigil
Why do all of the fist hammers suck?
fist has pretty fun hammers. breaching cross, long knuckle and exploding upper are the best
errant root
Bow and arrow are my second favorite
reef zodiac
Explosive Upper is great on Demeter but it still isn’t really that good on the other aspects since the special is just so weak (I could be wrong but this is definitely how it feels to me)
errant root
If i get upgrade to slow them wheni dmg was the best
boreal gale
If you can get Long Knuckle Breaching Cross and explosive upper you'll shred. Fists have amazing and terrible hammers, and few in between
reef zodiac
Long knuckle + Breaching cross? That’s not really a combo
manic bobcat
it's fine
reef zodiac
You do know that long knuckle doesn’t apply to dash-strikes right?
manic bobcat
i like long knuckle
boreal gale
Yes
manic bobcat
it doesn't really matter
boreal gale
But both are amazing
reef zodiac
I mean they are fine I guess
manic bobcat
whatever extra you get is still good, you don't literally always dash strike on fists though
errant root
Can someone remind me what os long knuckle
signal aspen
long knuckle is a knuckle that is long
reef zodiac
But compared to Bow hammers, or Shield hammers, or double edge (all the other sword hammers suck though lol), Fist hammers feel really weak
manic bobcat
just enough to get your reset timer for perma lock
errant root
long knuckle is a knuckle that is long
Seems legit
manic bobcat
Fist hammers feel really weak
idk man, i still rank BC about any shield hammer in term of usefulness tbh
(if somehow they are comparable)
manic bobcat
including charged shot
reef zodiac
I’m not sure if I agree with that
Charged Shot feels like it’s probably a top 3 hammer in the game. Or at least top 5
manic bobcat
according to who?
boreal gale
Rolling Knuckle is pretty nice too
manic bobcat
if it's personal ranking then we can agree to disagree i guess
reef zodiac
What would be your top 5?
manic bobcat
to me, BC eliminates one of the biggest problem of fists
armor
you can perma stun enemies without armor which makes it safe
(boss excluded of course)
reef zodiac
Mine is:
Double Edge
Twin Shot
Charged Shot
Flurry Jab
Breaching Cross or Triple Shot (can’t decide)
Not necessarily in that order
boreal gale
Why are my heroics always stuff I can't useeee
manic bobcat
What would be your top 5?
haven't put much thought into this tbh
reef zodiac
Fair enough
reef zodiac
Heroic boons are overrated imo
boreal gale
Dem
signal aspen
damn that really sucks
reef zodiac
What does?
boreal gale
Dem Fists
reef zodiac
That’s a fantastic place for Deadly Flourish
manic bobcat
but but deadly flourish is one of the best boons for dem fists?
boreal gale
But I need Athena Special for ME
boreal gale
Passed it up for epic call anyways
signal aspen
just stop using ME
manic bobcat
no need to chase someone who doesn't love you
reef zodiac
Artemis call
boreal gale
Artemis Call is amazing
manic bobcat
it's a iframe on demand boon and that's about it for me :D
reef zodiac
So for normal rooms it kinda doesn’t do anything
manic bobcat
i use it for iframes because it charges slightly faster than others :D
signal aspen
i dont even use calls anymore
boreal gale
Boss fights is what I use it for anyways
reef zodiac
i dont even use calls anymore
Why
manic bobcat
i don't even
reef zodiac
Calls are super strong though
signal aspen
idk
manic bobcat
the problem is you need to get those things
signal aspen
i also dont use any weapon other than beo
brisk trail
YES
signal aspen
the number 1 priority for beo is mirage shot
signal aspen
so i go for that
reef zodiac
I go for both
signal aspen
i dont really care about smoldering
boreal gale
Wow Alecto is easy as hell even with EM
brisk trail
I have cleared Hades again at 45 heat BAYBEEEEEEEEE
reef zodiac
Alecto is the hardest fury. Still easy, but the hardest one
reef zodiac
I have cleared Hades again at 45 heat BAYBEEEEEEEEE
YOO THATS AWESOME
boreal gale
For me it's Tisiphone
reef zodiac
Congrats!
reef zodiac
Tis is the easiest one for me for sure
signal aspen
meg is easiest, alecto is hardest imo
boreal gale
Huh. I have trouble only on EM because Meg takes up like half the arena with her assist and Alecto cuts off alot with her beyblades
brisk trail
errant root
brisk trail
boreal gale
Heroic Divine Flourish from Euridice let's go
lone kernel
short glen
you must do other things first
boreal gale
Was and then Ares became very rude and didn't give me attack
short glen
beat the game and then some other stuff
brisk trail
attempting to clear at heat 50
boreal gale
Y'all attempting 50 heat and I'm struggling with 8 lol
Uh I just killed a shield guy in Elysium. Now there are four
What
mint coral
Bp moment
reef zodiac
Whew I got ME in the last possible chamber I could have gotten it. Absolutely annihilated Hades. My doom was doing 476 damage per hit and I also had an extra dash
lone kernel
Y'all attempting 50 heat and I'm struggling with 8 lol
didn’t you get your first clear like, a week or two ago? There’s no shame in not being a 50 heat masochist my dude, if you want it you’ll get there 🙂
umbral whale
Everyone ive talked to has a different fury they think is the hardest lol. For me its Alecto. Tis is the easiest for me
lone kernel
I've only had the game a week
There ya go haha
reef zodiac
Everyone ive talked to has a different fury they think is the hardest lol. For m...
Same
brisk trail
Alecto makes me cry sometimes
umbral whale
Ive had this game like a week. My first clear was on run #24 and im above 120 runs and the highest ive done is like 10 heat
lone kernel
Took me about a month to get my first clear (had covid in the process)
I’m at 300 hours now lol
You’ll get there
(have it for switch)
reef zodiac
I’m happy because I never have to play Zag sword again unless I decide to get every aspect to 40 heat which I probably won’t ever do lol
umbral whale
I really wish i could see my hours on Hades
lone kernel
I really wish i could see my hours on Hades
You can get a close enough approximation with 50 minutes per run
reef zodiac
I have 450 hours now
reef zodiac
You can get a close enough approximation with 50 minutes per run
50 minutes?
lone kernel
50 minutes? <:thanthink:669246004142538753>
316 runs, 290 hours
mint coral
I think i have 280-300 hrs? Been a while since i've checked
lone kernel
That is real time not IGT
umbral whale
Ive never had a run last me more than 36 mins
mint coral
tbf i go afk a bit too much
lone kernel
Ive never had a run last me more than 36 mins
Real minutes or in game min tho
brisk trail
345 hours for me
umbral whale
Fair. But i also dont dillydally beyond reading the boons and dialogues
brisk trail
15 for my first clearing
lone kernel
Fair. But i also dont dillydally beyond reading the boons and dialogues
If you spend 10 seconds picking a boon, and get 12 boons in a run that’s already two extra min of real time
It’s not a perfect approximation
boreal gale
My longest run was 33m
umbral whale
I played OoT Zelda way too muh and its ingrained in my head that if theres a dash or a roll i do it nonstop while moving
lone kernel
But it’s close enough
boreal gale
But I went AFK for 10m so...
umbral whale
Ill just wait til january when PSN does the whole "your year in gaming" thing
lone kernel
Also accounts for talking to everyone, messing w mirror, etc
lone kernel
Ill just wait til january when PSN does the whole "your year in gaming" thing
If you’re on PlayStation you can show your hours played by checking your online profile
umbral whale
You sure thats not a ps5 thing? Ive never seen hours played on my profile
boreal gale
What would be cool is if when Asterius starts telling Zag how Theseus hasn't been himself it changes how Theseus fights completely
However from the standpoint of gameplay it wouldn't be very practical
lone kernel
You sure thats not a ps5 thing? Ive never seen hours played on my profile
i'm not actually
idk
reef zodiac
However from the standpoint of gameplay it wouldn't be very practical
Yeah this is what I was gonna say. But I agree it would be cool, I just don’t think it would work
umbral whale
Ive never played a ps5 but ive never seen it on ps4
lone kernel
i kinda wish there were other bosses for elysium and asphodel
reef zodiac
i kinda wish there were other bosses for elysium and asphodel
Different colored Lernie heads
lone kernel
i mean a straight up different boss
reef zodiac
Aka Blue Lernie or easy lernie
reef zodiac
i mean a straight up different boss
Sure, but also Alecto, Tis, and Meg all feel kinda the same after a bit of practice
brisk trail
I mean there is only a handful of boss's but you know they are good ones
boreal gale
Like after a certain point Hades hires a different gatekeeper
reef zodiac
That would create too much variation for runs
If you’re speedrunning you’d have to make sure you’re fighting the right one
boreal gale
It would be completely impractical from a gameplay standpoint but from a story standpoint it'd be really cool
reef zodiac
For high heat, it could change runs a ton
It would work better as a separate challenge
boreal gale
A separate pact maybe
reef zodiac
Sure, that would work too
umbral whale
Call it "New Hires" have it work like EM for 1 2 and 3
reef zodiac
Excuse me why does this Tiny Vermin have a boss bar
I thought you wanted new bosses
umbral whale
King Vermin is my favorite miniboss
reef zodiac
Tiny Vermin is really not fun imo
reef zodiac
Stupid a-hole just teleports around
fallow mountain
how do i transfer my game data from switch to steam?
reef zodiac
Excuse me why is this rat teleporting
Because it’s annoying
brisk trail
woooo onto asphodel baybeeeee
reef zodiac
Chamber 8 Merciful End
signal aspen
Chamber 3 ME when
brisk trail
God I hate tiny vermin
twin thistle
lol i first encountered it after over 50 runs
lone kernel
It killed me the first time I made it to Styx. Sad
brisk trail
My hands are so sweaty right now
buoyant canopy
me after Alecto calls me the god of trash :(
void cedar
what would be the best aspect/weapon in this game?
buoyant canopy
i don't really think they have a "best weapon"
void cedar
ive been getting extremely good with arthur/sword eris/gun chiron/bow
ah so its more just personal preference?
void cedar
there is no way to refund titan's blood right?
static lynx
depends, you can use it then immediately start a run and if then give up and you'll be refunded
void cedar
i noticed that
im 50 hrs in lmao and im just now thinking about if you can refund them
narrow hemlock
if you use blood and return to zag's room you can't refund. his room is an auto save point
static lynx
i thought going into any room is an autosave
wise oasis
You'll still be able to give up in chambers
narrow hemlock
yes but you can forfeit your runs
wise oasis
Can't give up in your room, pretty unrealistic!
narrow hemlock
if you use blood, go to zags room, go start a run and then forfeit the blood will still be used. giving up means the run didnt happen and you return to the last point prior to that run when the game saved
the game autosaves each room once they're cleared but that save is for the duration of your run. if you forfeit it you return to your last save before that
which is why when the game crashes midrun people often find themselves back at the house prior to that run
void cedar
also any tips on learning to play the lyre?
brisk trail
RATSRATSRATSRATS
void cedar
bruh
narrow hemlock
you can do it all in one sitting but you still need periodic dialogue from orpheus on lyre progress so it takes multiple runs regardless. the milestones are 20/60/110/210 interactions. so just play with it a few times between runs and eventually you'll get there
lone kernel
I did it by mashing the button during a two hour company seminar on how to be more productive. The irony wasn’t lost on me, but I got the prophecy done lol
void cedar
my highest so far is 8 how do you do 50 lol
brisk trail
Just practice and plan weapon set ups
buoyant canopy
i have no god damn clue what lyre is
void cedar
instrument
modern garnet
Go for god keepsake in the first area, probably a god keepsake in the second area, either a god keepsake or a boss keepsake in the third area, and a boss keepsake in the last area
Best boss keepsake is almost always acorn
buoyant canopy
i like the old spiked collar because i'm bad at the game
modern garnet
If you can't think of a god to add to your pool, pick coin purse
dim flower
it takes about 1-2 full runs to fully upgrade any given keepsake
modern garnet
Spiked collar is alright but acorn better against bosses specifically
Companions are cool for phasing bosses
void cedar
i liked spike collar with aspect of guan yu (spear)
buoyant canopy
is it true that the first god you get a a boon from has a higher chance to show up later on?
modern garnet
Nah there's nothing specific about the first god
buoyant canopy
oh
dim flower
the first god is just kinda the setup
buoyant canopy
besides keepsakes, can i raise my chances of getting specific gods?
dim flower
it sorta defines how your build will go depending on what you’re offered
modern garnet
If you use a room reroll on a miniboss room you'll be guaranteed to get another god
buoyant canopy
are mini boss rooms the rooms with the skulls underneath them?
modern garnet
The general rule is that you want flat damage on low damage attacks, and percent damage on high damage attacks. If you pick gods with that in mind you won't go wrong
Miniboss rooms have a skull and a red dot
buoyant canopy
i just pick the boon that sounds the best lol
dim flower
once you know more boons combos and such you’ll be able to guide your builds better
buoyant canopy
i've beaten hades once and i don't know what to do now so i'm just trying to get all the keepsakes
but what's a good build for the gauntlets?
brisk trail
dood there is so much replayability
dim flower
zeus + fists is very fun
pallid canyon
apparently target has hades physical on sale rn for $30 if anyone wanted a physical copy for their collection
warm kite
does anyone have any tips on beating to game i got the game 3 days ago and i get through meg most the time and die on th bone hydra thanks
dim flower
practice
brisk trail
does anyone have any tips on beating to game i got the game 3 days ago and i get...
try the weapons out plus u get stronger the more u play through upgrades
warm kite
how so?
brisk trail
u get stronger basically every run
modern garnet
In the early game the biggest thing you can do to get stronger is to put more darkness and keys into the mirror
warm kite
ik that
brisk trail
then keep playing u will get there it takes a while
plus use sll the weapons to see which u like
warm kite
i really like the sheild
brisk trail
yah i liked it too
void cedar
i've beaten hades once and i don't know what to do now so i'm just trying to get...
you have to beat it 9 times for the credits to roll its very much worth it
brisk trail
ans then i won using the railgun lol
warm kite
well i just died to megs sister 🥲
brisk trail
mmurder
lone kernel
murderer
mint coral
First time getting heroic rush delivery
lone kernel
yo just imagine the late night chats Charon has with tisiphone
lone kernel
lone kernel
trash god?
warm kite
where do i get diamonds?
mint coral
Kill the hydra
warm kite
welp
void cedar
or by trading 10 nectar iirc
warm kite
wow i almost killed the bull and got theseus to half
modern garnet
You'll get hit less next time
untold garnet
hold on
you can fight the shop guy???
he just clapped me so hard cause i was trying out the fists
but like
damn thats cool
looks like its a rare chance for it to appear from the looks of it though
manic bobcat
looks like its a rare chance for it to appear from the looks of it though
something like 22% every run i think
so not that rare
but not that often, either
manic bobcat
i mean you get the money regardless of beating him or not, but to spend it you need to get out
manic bobcat
im guessing it also shuts down the shop for the run?
beat him and find out
untold garnet
oight
manic bobcat
but in general it's common sense to not be punished to finish a challenge, yeah?
untold garnet
yeah but he shop keeper
modern garnet
You can't get it at the shops that are right before bosses
untold garnet
imagine doing 2 boss fights in a row
modern garnet
Oh yeah it can be right before a miniboss
brisk trail
heh this is a bit of a joke but I am going to try clearing on 63 heat
fiery bramble
You got this
untold garnet
damn he has image perms
brisk trail
does he start the attack
dim flower
steal his moneys
untold garnet
idk what happens after the fight cause i died because fist = caca
brisk trail
fist is good
dim flower
you’re just not using them right
dim flower
they’re really good
brisk trail
get the aspect that makes the special stronger
reef zodiac
Just got my second 32 heat sub-16 minute 5 sack in a row (with bad weapons, first Zag spear now Talos fists)
untold garnet
the gravity one?
reef zodiac
Just got my second 32 heat sub-16 minute 5 sack in a row (with bad weapons, firs...
Also I had 5 dashes for both for some reason
brisk trail
demeter i think
untold garnet
bruh i was about to get a hammer but one of my mirror abilities just said naw
gave me a pom of power
would be REALLY NICE right now
if i had some more
like i dont know
range?
but nope lets make those lightning attacks bounce 2 extra times
dim flower
shield is really nice for close and long range
untold garnet
im using the sword rn
dim flower
🤷♂️
untold garnet
i guess ill try shield next run
lone kernel
but nope lets make those lightning attacks bounce 2 extra times
If you got storm lightning you’re now eligible for Zeus legendary
dim flower
yep
untold garnet
still cant belive i lost my 8x escape to a rat
dim flower
zeus legendary is beautiful
untold garnet
still annoyed 2 hours later
brisk trail
frigg it is alecto
brisk trail
boom Alecto dead
dim flower
nice
reef zodiac
Storm lightning 
Splitting bolt
dim flower
tbh
reef zodiac
Splitting bolt has got to be the best legendary in the game
idle cargo
Y'all, I need some help. Who do I give a nectar to to unlock the final boon I need, to the right of broken spearpoint?
rapid agate
where i either reached the final boss
rapid agate
Y'all, I need some help. Who do I give a nectar to to unlock the final boon I ne...
spoilers
wait till you beat the game
idle cargo
Ohhh I know now
Yeah I've beaten the game a few times, never thought about that
Welp, time to sweat
untold garnet
when the hammer is game breaking
untold garnet
i have basically ~800 hp to fight hades with a extremely short ranged mediocre attack
wish me luck
brisk trail
what weapon
brisk trail
i just do dash attack on that
untold garnet
im 100% going back to me gun after this though
brisk trail
bone hydra down
untold garnet
ayo the sword actually killed hades faster than gun???
so cring smh imagine not shooting bullets
modern garnet
Yeah the weapons are balanced that way
The gun advantage is that you don't have to stand sword distance away from your enemies
untold garnet
b*lance 🤢 🤢 🤢 🤢 🤢 🤢
modern garnet
That's why the bullets are marshmellows
untold garnet
true
quick ledge
For temple of styx is 1 chamber 1 encounter
untold garnet
but add some upgrades
quick ledge
or every room 1 encounter
untold garnet
and it shreds
modern garnet
Different things count the styx encounters differently
modern garnet
Butterfly only counts the last encounter in a tunnel as an encounter
Pom flower counts em all
modern garnet
Well items also count them all I think
quick ledge
what else is worth noting?
untold garnet
i love how every time i escape theres always a cliff hanger on whats gonna happen next time i arrive at persomethingsomething's area
untold garnet
whats her name again
modern garnet
Rooms that don't have enemies aren't encounters
modern garnet
Oh for leveling up keepsakes I think every styx encounter counts
quick ledge
oh slick
modern garnet
But it might mean bringing a bad keepsake into the final boss
lone kernel
is 1 room an encounter
Room where you fight stuff. If you’re set by Styx, great place to grind. If you have like Zeus Eris with legendary and smoldering air, do all five tunnels just because and grind up your hourglass then all the other ones
Once convenience fee becomes a thing, it’s less effective, but hourglass makes elysium like free if you get enough cash
warm kite
what boons are good the gun
modern garnet
Zeus on attack, aphro/arte on special is the classic build
lone kernel
go brr
brisk trail
Does the dialogue loop after a while? Also can I keep giving nectar after ||getting Hades to accept more gifts|| to get the dialogue from other characters still
stuck sentinel
Does the dialogue loop after a while? Also can I keep giving nectar after ||gett...
A: Eventually yes, though unique dialogue won't ever loop. B: Can you rephrase that?
stuck sentinel
Yup
brisk trail
I'm assuming by unique you mean for specific events and giving gifts etc
stuck sentinel
Things like achilles telling you to go get them, nyx saying you got it, hades being hades
mom being nice
stuck sentinel
I'm assuming by unique you mean for specific events and giving gifts etc
That, as well as reactions to certain events like ||you escaping for the first time, helping orpheus, achilles, sisyphus. epilogue. you leveling up badges||
you dying to different enemies
brisk trail
Just wanted to make sure so I didn't get to 10 escapes and couldn't keep giving nectar and stuff
nooooooooo
stuck sentinel
nope
dim flower
the satyr’s are the worst enemies in the game imo
brisk trail
I died to poison
dim flower
HHOCCCCKKKKK PTOOEY
stuck sentinel
wat
dim flower
hockin a loogie
brisk trail
Alot of crying
I still gotta beat the game another 6 times
and praying to the gods that I would get health chambers
lone kernel
Wdym by 63
Heat
brisk trail
Holy hell
I mean that is the only thing I could find
centaur harts
My max heat is 1 lmao
300 somtin hours
Alot of thos hours was messing around
high island
You can do LC3 at 63 Heat.
high island
Have submitted any runs to the high heat leaderboard?
brisk trail
eh
lone kernel
you def should
brisk trail
really?
lone kernel
If you can do 50, def
brisk trail
well first off I am going to make a perf 50 heat run
or as well as I can
I got real lucky with boons
high island
I mean it's your choice. But the leaderboard is good for other players to learn from runs, keep track of your own progress, see what the meta is, etc.
It's pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies.
brisk trail
I will most likely
but I was kissing Hades feet for him to miss me
I will admit playing no heat is getting pretty easy
I'll probably have to make things harder
I going to try my hand at 63 heat again
quick ledge
Ok quick question
mint coral
Epic quick reload with hera is pretty fun
quick ledge
I have 3 god boons rn
and in shop theres the 4th
but next room
theres a 5th god
if i buy the one from shop
is it going to change the next room one
mint coral
You will end woth a 5 god pool
stuck sentinel
that will give you a 5 god pool
stuck sentinel
it won't change the exit
brave portal
just got the true ending, this was one hell of an experience for sure
brisk trail
I am goin in baybeeee
modern garnet
5 God pool isn't THAT bad is it? Makes it harder to get something specific but sometimes you gotta
high island
5 god pools are fine.
dim flower
that tiny vermin is troublesome, yes
brisk trail
I am back a elysium with 3 min
dis hard
I paused and I am planning to beat theseus and asterius less than 1 minute and 20 sec
untold garnet
imaaaaaaaagine
buoyant canopy
i got immediately killed because i was testing what it was like with every punishment on to the max
brisk trail
I am back a styx baybeee
I prob gonna die to rats
I am fighting hades now
ahhhhhehrhehed
dang I got slapped
polar marsh
I found a quote from zag where he says "i have some bad news for you, Meg. Little by little, I'm getting stronger." Sounds like a good quote when in god mode
narrow hemlock
there are no god mode specific quotes 😄 though iirc that particular quote comes from a win streak
oh the getting stronger bit is referring to darkness invested in the mirror
fiery bramble
Just accidentally completely negated Hestia with Delta Chamber hammer lol
severe pelican
oof
reef zodiac
Just accidentally completely negated Hestia with Delta Chamber hammer lol
You can still reload with Delta Chamber Hestia
It definitely doesn’t negate it
Although it is pretty pointless
fiery bramble
Using it right now and I can't reload
reef zodiac
Using it right now and I can't reload
Press your reload button
fiery bramble
Oh I didn't think of that
reef zodiac
LMAO
fiery bramble
That was sarcasm dude..I literally cannot reload
Not possible
Aspect negated lol
fiery bramble
One of those statements is true
There is no manual reload when you have infinite ammo, the button does nothing
reef zodiac
I’m sorry but you’re literally wrong
dim flower
really?? i swear it does
dim flower
i seem to remember it still working
reef zodiac
It might be a bug for you idk
reef zodiac
i seem to remember it still working
It definitely does
dim flower
i dont use the gun often enough to be sure tho
fiery bramble
It's crazy. I just spent ten minutes playing with the weapon and I'm being told I'm wrong lmfao
dim flower
we’re not trying to insult you
fiery bramble
I don't feel insulted whatsoever
dim flower
we’re just confused why it wouldn’t work
reef zodiac
It might be a glitch just for you
granite ether
What aspect are you using?
fiery bramble
Because you cannot reload, it's literally part of the hammer description
dim flower
i’ve never seen it happen like that nor would i think they’d let that happen anyways
reef zodiac
But I’m 100% sure it’s supposed to let you reload, and I have searched recent messages to find multiple people confirming this
reef zodiac
Because you cannot reload, it's literally part of the hammer description
You can still reload with Hestia though. Idk what to tell you
fiery bramble
I know you keep saying that, and I respect the confidence
remote pebble
doesn't sound like it should remove reloading, just that it makes it unnecessary
I have not played with that aspect, however, hehehe
fiery bramble
To be clear, Delta Chamber does not let you reload and Hestia relies on a reload. Where is the confusion?
remote pebble
only like the base, and the hidden aspects of the railgun
dim flower
why would they make it so that a vital part of the aspect is unusable? i feel like that wouldnt get past them
granite ether
Btw the hammer says "you never have to reload"
reef zodiac
To be clear, Delta Chamber does not let you reload and Hestia relies on a reload...
My confusion is that delta chamber doesn’t actually stop you from reloading with Hestia. I could literally link you to messages from reputable players confirming this
granite ether
Says nothing about not being able to reload
reef zodiac
Exactly
fiery bramble
It does not give you the ability to reload
reef zodiac
With Hestia it does
fiery bramble
I just spent ten minutes using the weapon
It does not lol
Idk why you're so insistent on believing that
granite ether
Even trying to manually reload?
dim flower
because we’ve had it before
fiery bramble
Even trying to manually reload?
Not possible
Button does nothing
Damage doesn't increase by 150%
reef zodiac
Idk why you're so insistent on believing that
Because not only have I done it myself, but I can find messages from reputable players in this discord who confirm that they have done it
fiery bramble
Hestia relies on manual reload
fiery bramble
Because not only have I done it myself, but I can find messages from reputable p...
Please do a run with it
Take a video
reef zodiac
I’m not playing the game right now
remote pebble
does not sound easily reproducible
fiery bramble
But I’m 100% sure it’s supposed to work
You're mistaken
granite ether
Use F10 in game and report it as a bug then
Btw that's not how hestia works, the first shot becomes base damage 150, not damage increase by 150%. I'm sorry for niticking but making the distinction is important
reef zodiac
You're mistaken
I’ve never seen anyone say it’s not possible before in my life, and I’ve literally searched on Google and in this server
fiery bramble
does not sound easily reproducible
It's just getting a hammer, it's two per run not hard at all
reef zodiac
And, I’ve also done it myself
fiery bramble
Use F10 in game and report it as a bug then
Btw that's not how hestia works, the...
Hestia increases the damage of the first shot AFTER a manual reload... Come on
dim flower
the wiki for the rail does not say that delta chamber doesnt work with hestia aspect
reef zodiac
Hestia increases the damage of the first shot AFTER a manual reload... Come on
Bruh you realize this is a mod right? They’re not stupid
fiery bramble
the wiki for the rail does not say that delta chamber doesnt work with hestia as...
Again, please do a run with it. Two hammers per run, not hard.
lone kernel
Try remapping reload to another button and see if it responds
granite ether
Hestia increases the damage of the first shot AFTER a manual reload... Come on
Yes and % damage increase and base damage increase are very differant things
dim flower
i’ve done it before and experienced it before
reef zodiac
Sorry man but you’re just wrong idk what’s happening for you but that all I have to say. Imma go now, good luck fixing the bug
dim flower
we’re not saying you’re wrong we just dont get why it wouldnt work
remote pebble
to me, this just proves how I'm right for disliking that aspect of the railgun, lol
dim flower
well, pancake is but
fiery bramble
Yes and % damage increase and base damage increase are very differant things
Right I was mistaken, base increase and not percentage, but that doesn't contradict my actual point. You being a mod, please try a run with it.
lone kernel
Did remapping reload do anything
granite ether
I would suggest using the F10 fundtionality in game and detailing out what happened in the bug reporting window
dim flower
agreed
granite ether
Right I was mistaken, base increase and not percentage, but that doesn't contrad...
Mate, I've got other things to do in my day other than replicating potential bugs found in hades
reef zodiac
to me, this just proves how I'm right for disliking that aspect of the railgun, ...
Hestia aspect is so good but it’s hard to get used to
dim flower
video?
remote pebble
yea, but you're also an apple posing as a pineapple 😉
twin thistle
yea, but you're also an apple posing as a pineapple 😉
shush
reef zodiac
Do you have a video? Not because I don’t believe you but just for solid evidence
dim flower
nice
reef zodiac
@fiery bramble we have the video you requested
twin thistle
bruh
dim flower
dunno if that was such a smart idea but here we go
twin thistle
dude kinda appears to have thanos snapped himself tho
lone kernel
whatever, maybe his controller mappings are jacked up, maybe he’s wrong and is embarrassed, whatever, people being wrong on the internet is a fact of life
dim flower
he wasnt wrong his game was bugged
remote pebble
or controller button stopped working
dim flower
definitely not
lone kernel
dim flower
