h1-discussion

[plucky latch]

Alecto kinda bad

[strong ridge]

kill a lot

[plucky latch]

😈

[weary jackal]

Fighting her a lot

[azure osprey]

All fury sisters suck

[strong ridge]

alecto is harley quinn cmv

[azure osprey]

Hydra is where it’s at

[plucky latch]

You are nasty

[azure osprey]

Hydra should’ve been at the house of hades

And datable

[strong ridge]

i should be able to ride it

[plucky latch]

[wanton quail]

Wait what

[lime echo]

Sounds like DLC to me

[azure osprey]

[plucky latch]

Alecto should be marriage dlc

[azure osprey]

Every boss should be datable

Including Charon

Wait nevermind

[plucky latch]

Nasty

[azure osprey]

I forgot about hades

[lime echo]

I mean it is hell, seems acceptable

[plucky latch]

They made Hades such a hulk of a man

[strong ridge]

and insecure

[azure osprey]

It’s pretty accepting times you know

[lime echo]

All I want is a little Cerberus pet to follow me around

then this game would be perfection

[azure osprey]

Okay but imagine

Datable shades

[weary jackal]

Achilles

[plucky latch]

Dude why would I want to imagine that

[lime echo]

and a little Lernie pet too

[azure osprey]

Lernie is ugly

I hate his stupid face

[lime echo]

But imagine him as a cute little bone snake nipping at your heels

[plucky latch]

This guy hates snakes

[azure osprey]

Yeah

Because

[lime echo]

ugliness makes small things cuter

[azure osprey]

Dusa broke my heart

[plucky latch]

Snakes are just better versions of cats bro

[azure osprey]

I wasted my bottles on her

[plucky latch]

You gotta let them have their pie too

[strong ridge]

||real quick i’m happy that eurydice and zag never really romantically develop

even dusa has a romantic arc and idk i just really appreciated s platonic relationship in the game that also contained depth||

[lime echo]

she already taken anyways

[brave portal]

''girl you're as thick as a bowl of oatmeal''

[plucky latch]

Nah, I wish there was more choice between who you can romanticize. I did not like flirting with Than

[azure osprey]

She’s not even that attractive

[lone kernel]

Marry bouldy

ez

[azure osprey]

She’s a TREE

[lone kernel]

[plucky latch]

I just ended up giving all my stuff to Hades, Mom, and Chaos

[azure osprey]

Based

[plucky latch]

Also yeah, I wouldnt want to date someone Orpheus has been with

[brave portal]

don't do that to my boy

let him be happy

[azure osprey]

He makes me so angry

[plucky latch]

He seems happy

[strong ridge]

no ones stopping him

[azure osprey]

You had one job

Dude

And you failed

Did you think she wanted to stay in hell!!

[plucky latch]

I always attack Eurydice because she chuckles

She's the only npc I actively hit

[mint coral]

just beated boat man with gilga with ares dash

cant believe i would say this but ty maim

[azure osprey]

I was about to destroy Charon first try

But oo I had to have

The worst boons ever

He has the most avoidable attacks

His only threat is the paddle

[mint coral]

i was playing in fo2

[plucky latch]

Then why did you lose

[azure osprey]

He paddled me

[strong ridge]

owo

[lime echo]

I fought against Charon once, he seemed pretty brutal

[plucky latch]

Can't dodge a paddle?

[azure osprey]

Also I didn’t have any boons for my dash,attack,special or cast

[plucky latch]

💀

[idle cargo]

You can fight Charon???????

[azure osprey]

So

It took a year

[strong ridge]

thievery

[plucky latch]

Borrowing*

[idle cargo]

How do I thieve the items?

[strong ridge]

matter of perspective

[plucky latch]

This is why Zag is a little punk

[idle cargo]

Asking for a friend

[mint coral]

i got saved by ruthless reflex
dodged at least 3 hits from charon

[plucky latch]

He just takes people's things. Doesn't even consider asking

[strong ridge]

in the mid chamber shops occasions he will leave his wallet out

[idle cargo]

Ohhh

[lime echo]

That boy rich too

[azure osprey]

Is there anyway I can skip the 1st area

It’s so boring

[strong ridge]

up heat

[azure osprey]

Ughhhhh

[lime echo]

@azure osprey go faster

[azure osprey]

Okay

[idle cargo]

Kill them

[plucky latch]

Mods

[azure osprey]

Ps4

[idle cargo]

Also, I'm curious- which of the furies do you guys think is the easiest?

[azure osprey]

They should give zag an actual gun

[weary jackal]

Tisiphone

[plucky latch]

PS4 save file glitch

[azure osprey]

Mag ofc

[lime echo]

Mag

[plucky latch]

Tis seems the easiest

[azure osprey]

Tis is annoying

[plucky latch]

You dont have to worry about her attacks at all

[idle cargo]

They're all super easy to me, but Alecto is a bit annoying

[azure osprey]

Mag is predictable

[lime echo]

Tis can occasionally get me with her dash and fire

Mag is easy always

[lone kernel]

They get hard again at high heat

[idle cargo]

I never even knew how Alecto built up rage from that one move bc my stygian would always stun her and the only chance for rage she'd get is her perma-rage

[lone kernel]

Like I expect to lose a SD

[plucky latch]

Guess we have different fingers

[azure osprey]

What does em1 add to the furies

So I can mentally

[idle cargo]

I only found out when I used the gun for the first time

[azure osprey]

Prepare

[lone kernel]

the other furies will show up as support

[plucky latch]

What do you mean When

[azure osprey]

Typo

[lone kernel]

Like you only need to kill one, but the others will show up and attack

[azure osprey]

NOOOOOOOOO

That sounds awful with murder grandma

[lone kernel]

It’ll be either one or two support and one primary fury to fight

[weary jackal]

Em1 is so easy

[plucky latch]

Oh. Basically your screen becomes smoke eventually

[lone kernel]

You don’t need fo fight 2

[lone kernel]

If tisiphone is support this happens

[plucky latch]

So you might get a fight where you cant actually see

[azure osprey]

When about em2

[lone kernel]

And by themselves em1 whatever but throw in FO2 and some hard labor

[azure osprey]

How does hydra get changed

[strong ridge]

i was so disappointed when they were stuck in support roles

i was ready to rip n tear the furies

[weary jackal]

Vision is overrated, fight via sound

[plucky latch]

Makes Lernie an environmental hazard

[lone kernel]

Arena is an archipelago full of lava now

[plucky latch]

Lava everywhere

[lone kernel]

And is way smaller so it can be a bit messy when the six heads come out

[strong ridge]

and float head

[azure osprey]

So you have to constantly dash?

[weary jackal]

There is land

Just not as much

[plucky latch]

Baaically. And Lernie likes to sit in the middle of the lava

[azure osprey]

Okay what about em3

[strong ridge]

it’s usually good to clear one platform then use it to launch assaults on the other head duos

[lone kernel]

You have safe ground to stand on but there’s lava rivers

[azure osprey]

I know about em4

[lone kernel]

Asterius gets gold armor and has a spin attack that’ll wreck your day and Theseus has a chariot with lots of AOE damage

[plucky latch]

EM3 is like Theseus on Easy Mode

[lone kernel]

also Theseus gloats about how cool his armor is

[weary jackal]

Theseus gets a tank with mini guns, Asterius becomes sonic the hedgehog

[lone kernel]

Em4 is three health bars and stronger attacks and will make most people sad their first several tries

[plucky latch]

You have to change how you dodge Asterius' slam

[azure osprey]

NOOO

[plucky latch]

Thats basically it

[lone kernel]

Just try it

They’re new fights to learn but they aren’t impossible

[strong ridge]

theseus is worthless in em3 it’s very funny

[plucky latch]

Yeah. He's reduced to nothing

[weary jackal]

He does become very very funny to kill

Asterius makes up for it

[idle cargo]

I love how if you vibe in the house of hades for long enough, you get to watch Hades hear people's appeals to go somewhere

Where are they wanting to go??

[weary jackal]

Ridiculous. Denied.

[idle cargo]

Idk but it's funny watching him repeatedly deny them

Absolutely denied.

[plucky latch]

Does he ever approve anyone?

[idle cargo]

Yes

He approved one just now

[plucky latch]

[idle cargo]

That's the first time he's ever approved someone in my 37 runs

Laughable. Denied.

[plucky jay]

So I finally played Hades

Wow. What a game, 10/10 rn

[plucky latch]

Watch it

[plucky jay]

I have only done 12 runs and I lost to Hades on this last one, what a meanie

[idle cargo]

Ooo congrats on getting to him!

[plucky jay]

Games tough, the shield is my bff

[idle cargo]

I just beat him like half an hour ago on my 37th, after much grinding

[plucky jay]

Its kinda cheesy but really strong

I find HP and certain god boons are your bff

[idle cargo]

Athena is good for players starting out for sure

[plucky jay]

Yeah she's good I had her god ability

But Dionysus man

Don't sleep on his hangover ability

Killed many guys by making them bleed out

[idle cargo]

Dionysus my beloved

[plucky jay]

I'm glad I finally got around to it

Thank God for gamepass

Best service ever

Like I'ma go okay their other games after I beat hades

[weary jackal]

If you haven’t even beaten Hades and you’re giving it a 10/10
Hohoho

[plucky jay]

I did say rn

Lol

Subject to change

[weary jackal]

it gets better

[plucky jay]

I bet

I wonder what comes after Hades

That's the farthest I've made it

I feel good that I have though

What's your guys preferred weapon?

I wanna unlock the fists but I feel like the shield is just too good

[weary jackal]

I’ve gone between the Bow, Fists, and Shield today

[plucky latch]

I just use the sword

[plucky jay]

You know, this last one was the first one where I upgraded my cast

It was good

I really don't use my super at all

[mint coral]

i mainly use bow and shield

[plucky jay]

Maybe it's because it's too out of the way on keyboard to go press q mid combat

I'ma wear out my left click on my mouse lol

I'm trying to give everyone the nectar but I'm mainly gunning for that meg romance

[fiery bramble]

I'm so close to getting all achievements, I don't want this game to end

[deep zenith]

Dusa

My beloved

[weary jackal]

Back again I see

[deep zenith]

Yes

Oh my goodness gracious

[weary jackal]

Heroic Deadly Flourish let’s go

[tulip ridge]

ballin

[deep zenith]

Mmm

Found dusa

Time to get a lil

Look

[weary jackal]

I will personally banish you to Tartarus

[deep zenith]

What

[deep zenith]

[idle cargo]

I sentence you to die at the very end of all of your fights with Hades no matter what

He shall have a pixel of health remaining, and you will perish

[deep zenith]

What

@idle cargo

Keep talking

That

Smack

Hydra

Know what

Finna go slay some hydras

[idle cargo]

I'll watch Hades stab you in the ribs from the afterlife²

I become ghost skeleton ooooo

[deep zenith]

As you should

bone snake

[idle cargo]

Considering your simping for Dusa, I'd assume you have a thing for snakes

[deep zenith]

It’s complicated

[idle cargo]

Fair

[deep zenith]

☕️

dusa just built different

[weary jackal]

Gonna go kill Lernie now

[idle cargo]

Please no

That's my son

Don't kill my son

[weary jackal]

Dead

[idle cargo]

There's no way you got to him that fast

[weary jackal]

I said I would literally before I entered the boss arena

Not before the run

[idle cargo]

Oh

I hope you die to a wretch during the Hades fight

[weary jackal]

Not likely

[idle cargo]

True

[plucky latch]

Most likely

[idle cargo]

But it'd be funny

[plucky latch]

I already got my grandma to cast the hex

[weary jackal]

Thanks for the extra fishing, Poseidon
Lol

[deep zenith]

Tell him to take it like a man

Or like a hydra

[weary jackal]

What is a man, but a miserable little pile of secrets?

[short glen]

a pile of flesh and bone

[weary jackal]

That is literally every living creature

[short glen]

no

Insects have no bones, among other animals

In fact the majority of living creatures don't have bones

[royal hamlet]

Hey guys 😉 I have 25 Titan blood.. not sure wether to use to unlock hidden aspects or just level some up that I have?

[weary jackal]

Drink it

[idle cargo]

Zagreus is thorsty

Feed him titan blood

[short glen]

Use it to unlock hidden aspects, they're all fun

[weary jackal]

Did
Did Chaos just tell me to beat Hades with the Cosmic egg equipped as a prank
Incredible

[mint coral]

chaos moment

[weary jackal]

The fact it said “Prophecy foretold” after they told me to do that is threatening

[mint spear]

I love how long you can play and still get random prophecies to fulfill

[weary jackal]

“Hey Zagreus, kill your dad with an egg”
“Why”
“For the lulz, man. For the lulz.”

[mint spear]

For me the other day it was Poseidon being like “yo kill Theuseus with EM3 please” after I’ve already done that 5+ times

[weary jackal]

Oh awesome, Zeus just gave me Lucifer

Now I just need Beowulf from Chaos

[mint spear]

I can’t be the first one to have this idea, but adding an Aspect of Red for Stygius that’s the Transistor would be soooo sick

Like there’s a perfect worldbuilding excuse to give Zag the Transistor and have it make sense

[weary jackal]

Every time I’ve heard someone describe the gameplay of Pyre, it’s something basketball related

I have never played Pyre
And this confuses me

[wind nest]

You guys probably get this all the time but I’ve completed the game and now I can’t visit the surface proper

How can I get the fish there?

[mint coral]

hades arena can spawn fish

[weary jackal]

Get lucky with the dad arena

[wind nest]

Ok got it ty

[mint spear]

There’s even a unique dad dialogue when there’s a fish right in front of where he faces when you walk in

Possibly the biggest laugh I had

[weary jackal]

“This fish is taunting me.”

[idle cargo]

I WANT THAT SO BAD

[mint spear]

The fish dialogue or the Transistor aspect thing or what

[idle cargo]

The fish dialogue

[hollow kettle]

I just came up with a cool idea for a headcanon, you know how in some myths Tartarus has its own personification who's one of Gaea's lovers and stuff

What if the red 'water' in the river Styx is like the blood running through his veins

[weary jackal]

Erebus is Nyx’s brother

And he’s like 2 rooms

[mint spear]

It’s kinda interesting that the stronger enemies are in the nicer sections of Hades while the place for eternal damnation for the worst of all people/creatures is a pushover place in game

Obviously the progression makes sense from a gameplay perspective

[strong ridge]

its explained

[weary jackal]

Well I mean
I assume it’s ‘cuz bad people tend to have weaker spirits
And great heros having stronger spirits
Or something
Idk

[mint spear]

I totally get all the warriors in Elysium

That’s well explained

Tartar is supposed to have all the really crazy stuff tho

Like the Titans are down there

[hearty sierra]

I mean, there's exactly 1 titan in tartarus according to memory

[modern garnet]

The tartarus enemies are kept in check because they're close to the house

[hearty sierra]

And he's in pieces

[weary jackal]

Yay I got my ambrosia back

[hearty sierra]

10 ambro yay

wish there was an achievement for letting her have the ambro, though

[weary jackal]

Yeah but then you could get locked out of it and have to do all of that again

“Amusing chaos.
Reward: 3 Diamonds
Vanquish lord hades bearing the cosmic egg”

why

[mint spear]

Seems like the entire point, as revealed by Zag’s post-credits job, is to tighten security throughout the underworld. So why from Hades’ perspective would you make the Tartarus foes weak

[short glen]

So they don't try to break down the walls in the house

[short glen]

Because it amuses them. That's the entire reason

[mint coral]

make it extra funny and beat dad with chaos shield

[weary jackal]

Having Frost Strike and Arctic Blast on Lucifer literally makes it a ghostbusters laser

Oh hell yes, it’s on Spotify

[south lagoon]

later on we do get that like assassin guy miniboss in Tart. so there are more sinister denizens down there that we do not typically see

what is the name of that enemy

[weary jackal]

Zag ain’t ‘fraid of no ghost

[south lagoon]

i want to check its codex

[weary jackal]

Wretched Sneak

[south lagoon]

thank

...I am unfit to judge those who, in their mortal days, made work of taking lives. In my case, such bloodshed was sanctioned, even honored as a necessary consequence of war. But there are those who took lives for no cause other than personal gain. And now, even in death, they serve the highest bidder. The Master gives them brief reprieve from Tisiphone's whip in exchange for ensuring the other worst wretches of Tartarus remain firmly in their place. They are not permitted to leave their solitary confinement; but should any other soul trespass there, they are all too eager to ply their old trade.

ok yes

so here we can infer there is a hierarchy of shades in Tartarus that are being kept in check

which i think is good enough for what's up with all the tartarus shades not being super evil and strong

shrug

[mint coral]

bringing back the topic of chaos telling you to use egg against dad

time to do em4

[south lagoon]

godspeed

[weary jackal]

Lucifer has surprisingly good damage

[dusty lark]

How do I get the refill item

Reroll

[weary jackal]

Unlock all of the mirror

[dusty lark]

For fated oersuasion

Like I’ve got the time but I’m missing the item

[weary jackal]

You can get more dice with Fated Keys

[mint coral]

fated persuasion gives you 4 initial re rolls, then if you have fated keys (i think thats its name) picking up a key will give you another

[cold marlin]

Yo what’s the most fun interesting build y’all have done

[mint coral]

i think keys on charon shop dont count tho

[mint coral]

ares cast beo is an interesting build

[south lagoon]

when i want an interesting build i go Cold Embrace 😳

or i find it fun to just go as hard as i can on one god like Zeus on Zeus shield, Poseidon/Poseidon, Dem/Dem i just think it is neat to focus on one in particular

[mint coral]

sorry poor hydra, not my fault mirage shot is bugged on beo

[cold marlin]

Idk if this is how it works but if you have the Aphrodite ares duo and merciful end can you just spam a deflect move and constantly proc doom

[mint coral]

if you re apply doom the ares-aphro duo never procs

[cold marlin]

Oh so it doesn’t work well at all

[mint coral]

merciful end is already strong enough

plus even if you could proc the doom from ares-aphro it will be 50% weaker than the og doom

[weary jackal]

So uh
Lucifer just bore a hole through Theseus
This is amazing

[dusty lark]

Should I get minoraur rush or explosive return

And I’ve got a bunch of special things on aspect fo chaos

Or ferocious guard

[modern garnet]

Explosive return only returns once on chaos unfortunately

[dusty lark]

Oh

[modern garnet]

Otherwise itd be really good huh

[dusty lark]

Dow why should I get

So

What

[modern garnet]

Uh are you doing a lot of rushing or a lot of blocking

[dusty lark]

A good mix

Blocking then rushing

[cold marlin]

So I just got aspect of Rama and I took relentless Volley instinctually and I can’t tell if it’s good or unnecessary

[mint coral]

if you want to focus in the special is fun

easier hangover stacks, more lightning, more doom for dire misfortune, etc

[weary jackal]

Dad just got Ghost-busted

[mint coral]

im about to fight super dad with an egg

[cold marlin]

Ah shoot ima try and get zues special

[weary jackal]

The existence of Lucifer and Rama implies that both Christianity and Hinduism are canonically accurate in the Hades Universe

[cold marlin]

Yo game theory over here

[deep zenith]

Mmm

Dusa just asked if there was something that she could do for me

[weary jackal]

No

[tulip ridge]

The existence of Beowulf and Arthur imply that english folklore heroes existed

[modern garnet]

well they existed as much as zagreus did

and as much as lucifer

[tulip ridge]

I mean in the in game universe lol

[mint coral]

passion dash with epic greatest reflex and aphro legendary

fun

[dusty lark]

I have the thing that makes nectar give +1 Pom and I have rapid fire chrions bow so should I I get epic drunken strike rare premium vintage or epic numbing sensation

[tulip ridge]

doom attack/doom special/blade cast/ares aid/impending doom/dire misfortune fun

how many boons from a single god is it possible to get in one run

[mint coral]

no limit outside of eventually running out of chambers

[tulip ridge]

cause I wanted to get the boon that made blade effects do more damage on consecutive hits

But I didn’t get any more ares boons :(

[mint coral]

rng(tm)

[dusty lark]

Cuz Idkbwhst to pick

Idk what

[mint coral]

whats your current special?

[dusty lark]

Nothing

I got aspectof Chiron

[mint coral]

take the dio special then grab as many poms you can on it

[dusty lark]

Wait what special

[mint coral]

oh wait drunken strike

my bad

[weary jackal]

Try get drunken flourish

[mint coral]

wait do you have another source of hangover atm?

[tulip ridge]

dio brando makes for fun builds

[drifting shoal]

I have an odd question. so I am playing the PS5 version, and when I saved my game, left, and came back a couple hours later to play some more, the time it said I saved was in a different time zone than I was. so I tested it, saved, backed out and the save said it was 4 hours ahead of my time. anyone know the reason as to why?

[tulip ridge]

what is your system time?

[drifting shoal]

my system's time is correct

[tulip ridge]

hm, then I’ll wait for someone who knows more about ps to roll around

[drifting shoal]

I even checked my PC version to see if it does the same thing. it does not. the PC version has the correct time

[weary jackal]

OH MY GODS
CHAOS ACTUALLY LAUGHED ABOUT ME KILLING DAD WITH AN EGG

[tulip ridge]

lmaooooo

[chrome wharf]

YEAH

[tulip ridge]

chaos easily one of the top 5 cuties in the game

[chrome wharf]

If you play with their shield aspect they also say random things during your run

My favorite is entropy

[weary jackal]

#1: Dusa
#2: Chaos
#3: Cerberus
#4: The Chrustaceans
#5: Dusa

[mint coral]

Ig im gonna do chaos shield run soon

[stoic flame]

entropy 🥴

[mint coral]

Finally breaking the cycle of zeus/beo shield

[tulip ridge]

#1: Achilles
#2: Thanatos
#3: Dusa
#4: Chaos
#5: Achilles

[weary jackal]

I’m sorry but have you seen the Chrustaceans?
They’re amazing

I want one

[tulip ridge]

they’d be on there if achilles didn’t deserve two spots

[proud zodiac]

Yeah uh, extreme measures 4 is haaaaard

[mint coral]

Super dad goes brrr

[proud zodiac]

The soulcatchers are the worst part

I didn't even get to phase 3

I died on phase 2

[mint coral]

Just get luckier with the summons

[proud zodiac]

Yeah basically

[plucky latch]

Alright. These tier lists are wack. You're going about it the wrong way entirely

[proud zodiac]

I had a special build for the Hades spear

[tulip ridge]

don’t make me make a full tier list

[proud zodiac]

Anti-armor and explosive launcher

[plucky latch]

It would be wack

[tulip ridge]

Achilles the cutest character

I will die on this hill

[plucky latch]

He is pretty handsome

Very manly energy

[tulip ridge]

Indeed

[plucky latch]

This list was forged with Dusa's blood

1. Arthur
2. Chaos
3. Persephone
4. Alecto
5. Theseus

[tulip ridge]

Alecto

Bold choice, but respectable

[plucky latch]

[weary jackal]

4/6 gods done for the epilogue
We’re getting there

[proud zodiac]

Well, I have a good run going with Excalibur

I got Diving Protection

So between that and broken spearpoint I should be able to survive longer vs super dad

[weary jackal]

Oh and I’m close on Ares, Aphrodite, and Artemis too

[proud zodiac]

Super dad attempt no2

[weary jackal]

Artemis done, pog

[proud zodiac]

Ok that got me to phase 3... And then I died lol

That track is amazing

[weary jackal]

The Unseen Ones?

It’s available at the contractor for 5 diamonds

Or on Spotify for free

[weary jackal]

Beat Hades with just over half of my Plume time remaining

Pog

15:19.13
New fastest time

[chrome wharf]

neat

[floral crescent]

hello! am about to try hades and cant wait to have some slashing fun 🙂

[short glen]

Don't forget the stabbing

[weary jackal]

I prefer pummelling personally

[floral crescent]

Ooo

i will be doing it all

time to nolife for 20 days

[fiery osprey]

Hey guys, new here. Just joined yesterday and chatted a bit

Loving the game

Finally able to get on to play today

[fiery osprey]

Its really cool! I just got the game last week and am loving it; first time playing the genre of games

[floral crescent]

always loves rouglites so think hades is gonna be sick

especially with lock down i got all the time in the world

[weary jackal]

I recommend hiding in #h1-for-new-players until you beat the final boss for the first time

[floral crescent]

nws thanks for the advice 😊

[proud zodiac]

Extreme Measures Theseus and minotaur can suck my ass

[weary jackal]

Hehe tonk and bonk

[proud zodiac]

3 death defies

Also shield of chaos is super weak

[weary jackal]

Yup

Wait
Do you mean the aspect of chaos
Or the shield?

[proud zodiac]

The aspect

[weary jackal]

Ok then yeah

[strong ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/pattern-colors-trippy-gif-11416958

POV FO WITCHES DEN

[hearty sierra]

reverse that gif with Athena's dash!

damnit

wrong reply

[strong ridge]

if this isnt ironic idk what is

[hearty sierra]

Weeeeeell, yes, but also it was good

[hearty sierra]

Must've hypnotized me

[proud zodiac]

Was good?

Did it get nerfed?

[hearty sierra]

It was changed, I believe

before 1.0

[weary jackal]

We Stan Hermes

[proud zodiac]

Did it used to just throw more Shields by default without requiring you to do a charge

[hearty sierra]

It shot in all directions instead of just in front, I think

Lemme check

[proud zodiac]

Also what hammer mods for aspect of Lucifer are good?

I'm using the infinite ammo one right now

[strong ridge]

i think theres 1 that messes w how the damage is dealt

vague ik but like i mean the style in whihc its dealt

[proud zodiac]

It's this one, it changes it so that you have inf ammo but no damage ramping

[hearty sierra]

Infinite ammo is alright if you've got the super soaker combo

[weary jackal]

Concentrated hell, and the quick fire one

[hearty sierra]

You'd just be dashing around pushing people along so the damage ramp doesn't matter

[weary jackal]

100 runs pog

[hearty sierra]

Apparently... There's dialogue for if you fight the bosses after you respec your mirror

For meg, at least

I'm sorta interested now

[narrow hemlock]

just meg

[weary jackal]

New Lernie dialogue

[hearty sierra]

Just meg? Kek lesgo kill the ex

[strong ridge]

r there 3 lernie or different lernie modes

[narrow hemlock]

can't remember off the top of my head if there's hades dialogue or if he only comments on no boons (my gut feeling says no but i can't verify rn), but otherwise meg is the only one who remarks on no darkness

[hearty sierra]

There's like 5 lernie heads I think

Sickle, slam, fire, spawner, arrow

Or that's what I call them, anyway

[weary jackal]

I call them by their colours
Purple, Blue, Orange, Green, White

[strong ridge]

ok so is it 5 lernie or 5 lernie modes

[hearty sierra]

The "main" lernie will have a different head each time

And during the phases, he can spawn heads with any of the effects

Does that answer your question?

[strong ridge]

so the heads take turns being the main one

[hearty sierra]

Pretty much

[strong ridge]

im a fan of the 5 lernie theory

and i await em5 where you fight 5 lernies + dad eagerly sg make it happen

[hearty sierra]

It might be possible to fight 5 lernies in a row

I mean, the modders already have boss rush

But all at once isn't, I think

[strong ridge]

25 heads at once

[hearty sierra]

Too many entities

[strong ridge]

sg make it happen

[weary jackal]

Does Splitting Bolt work with Sea Storm?

[hearty sierra]

I believe so?

[weary jackal]

Nevermind yes it does

Omg

Zeus Call + Sea Storm + Splitting Bolt

[hearty sierra]

Sea Storm works the other way 'round, though

It's enemies who are pushed away are struck and not vice versa

[weary jackal]

Yeah but I’m using Malphon

So I’m chasing them constantly while righteous thunder showers upon them

[proud zodiac]

Ok so

Lucifer sucks more than normal for exagryph

[hearty sierra]

???????

[weary jackal]

I disagree but ok

[remote void]

Speaking of, I'm using Aspect of Zagreus rn for a run

[hearty sierra]

It's MORE shoot and run

[hearty sierra]

Zag rail?

You do you, man

[remote void]

I got Delta Chamber when I first started up

So uh

Yeah it does nothing

[proud zodiac]

You have to keep firing on target with Lucifer to deal damage

[raw herald]

The specials on lucifer are pretty chunky

[remote void]

Pretty easy to do

[hearty sierra]

Just keep specialing and running

[raw herald]

100 base damage is nothing to snort at

[weary jackal]

Bro what
I never would’ve guessed

[remote void]

Wait you're not on MnK are you

[hearty sierra]

You don't even need to attack

[proud zodiac]

Exagryph is the one weapon where controller isn't good

[remote void]

Uuh

[proud zodiac]

Especially with Lucifer

[remote void]

Have to disagree

[weary jackal]

Incredible revelation: You need to attack to do damage

[raw herald]

It does take a bit to get used to, but it's fine for the most part

[remote void]

Well let's not be rude

[hearty sierra]

You need to hit your enemies to do damage oh wow

[remote void]

Filter's pretty low here

[hearty sierra]

But yeah I'm just pulling your leg

Give it a chance!

[proud zodiac]

It's really hard to aim the specials with a controller unless you rely exclusively on the autoaim

[remote void]

Which I do

[hearty sierra]

TBH I'd rely on the autoaim

[proud zodiac]

It never puts them where I want them though

[hearty sierra]

You don't need to predict with the Luci aspect

[raw herald]

Positioning yourself well helps with auto aim

[hearty sierra]

You just need to have the specials down and doing damage

[proud zodiac]

They explode though

[hearty sierra]

And also applying whatever status effect you have

[weary jackal]

Surface fish let’s gooooo

[remote void]

Also, LC4 makes all health drops give you nothing. No health Regen per chamber either

[proud zodiac]

They don't do continuous damage

[hearty sierra]

You'd generally want them to not get hit and overlap

[proud zodiac]

Mine just always exploded

[raw herald]

They do, but the explosion is the main thing that's good about them

[remote void]

Centaur Hearts still give you extra health though

[proud zodiac]

I had triple shot because I thought it would be better

[hearty sierra]

It's sorta like lightning rod for me

[hearty sierra]

It's a max of 3 on screen at once

Not surprising that they'd explode

[raw herald]

Triple bomb is so good

[hearty sierra]

ambrosia lesgooooo

[hearty sierra]

Yep, stops all healing; Cursed Slash (sword hammer that heals per attack) and Draining Cutter (fist special heals 2% whenever you kill enemy) both still regen health, though

[weary jackal]

Oh damn, new fastest speed
14:51.35

[hearty sierra]

As does Guan Yu

Found this out the other day

[hearty sierra]

Damnnnnnn

That's real quick

Sub20 and now you can always have TD3 on

Free heat lesgo

[weary jackal]

I was messing around with the lambent plume for Hermes’ favour

[hearty sierra]

Yeah, plume is real nice

I always have it with Zag fists

[weary jackal]

I’m using Demeter fists rn

[weary jackal]

Why? I feel like that’s just a redundant amount of dodge chance when you could have Dem fists and nuke things

[hearty sierra]

Because I suck at the game and I like facetanking shots that I could've avoided

Which is also why I don't play much with Pierced Butterfly

[weary jackal]

Butterfly and Plume are my two favourite keepsakes

[hearty sierra]

Like, I could have avoided dad's spear that deals 50 damage when it plunges into my face

But why bother when you can cast a few more times and deal damage to him

[proud zodiac]

I use broken spearpoint always for chamber 4

[hearty sierra]

For styx?

Yeah it's useful against poison

But generally acorn is better

Unless you're on EM4 and dad spawns the blasted butterfly ball that eats all your dodges

[fiery osprey]

Heya folks

Sooo i just got outta my battle with hades for the first time after beating bull and theseus for the first time

I thought i beat him on my first attempt! I was so impressed with myself

And then of course he regains full health and im like WTFFFFF

i lost.

😥

I went to him with 1 lucky tooth and 1 death defiance left, and nearly 200 hp

[weary jackal]

Well when you get to him, then it’s only a matter of time

[hearty sierra]

I mean, you can see how he and zagreus are the same

He has casts; he has a spear; he can dash

And that's why he can death defiance too

[weary jackal]

Why do I have Snake Eater stuck in my head

[fiery osprey]

Yep! I hope. Just like the other bosses

I beat meg after 4 tries against her, bone hydra 3 tries, and the duo 3 tries

Hopefully i can do the same on hades

[fiery osprey]

Dang i didnt realize

So true though

How do… i beat… myself!?

unzips

👀

[weary jackal]

Why can you get both Greater Recall and Lightning Rod
That seems
Strange

[fiery osprey]

Lolol

Whats greater recall or lightning rod?

[weary jackal]

GR is Hermes’ legendary that returns casts to you immediately
Lightning rod is a duo between Artemis and Zeus that makes casts on the ground pulse with lightning

[fiery osprey]

Oooh nice

Yeah thats a wacky combo of boons

[vapid fossil]

Nop I use a Switch like controller https://www.gamesir.hk/collections/gamepads/products/gamesir-x2-bluetooth-mobile-gaming-controller And it's perfect with this

[polar root]

Greater call is when you get you god meter completely full

I read greater call

greater REcall is different

[fiery osprey]

Sup nox

[polar root]

Hey hey

[fiery osprey]

Just beat theseus and bull for the first time 🙂

Got to hades and lost on his second bar of health smh lol

[polar root]

Gamin

[polar root]

dashing is super important

spam it till the end of time

[hearty sierra]

You can, and there's mamy hilarious stories about running and dashing to not collect the casts so that the lightning continues to strike

[fiery osprey]

Thats what i end up doing in boss battles lol

[polar root]

ezpz

[hearty sierra]

Also cast. A lot.

Cast is good

[fiery osprey]

This might be a silly question, but should i dash away in circles?

[polar root]

get the boiling blood mirror upgrade

[fiery osprey]

Cuz i normally do but sometimes dash back and forth

[hearty sierra]

Dash away from wherever the danage is coming from

[fiery osprey]

For my dash boob and strikes

Boon

[hearty sierra]

Except Theseus's spear and Hades's casts

[fiery osprey]

Lol boob lol

[polar root]

funny eh

[hearty sierra]

I prefer to dash towards the enemy

And behind

[fiery osprey]

Yes i cast when i can; i find myself missing a lot while dashing lol

[polar root]

the mindlessnesss is more funnnn

[hearty sierra]

'cause that hits when you have a dash boon

[fiery osprey]

Nice yes

I guess when i do that, i time it poorly sometimes cuz he hits me when i go in

[hearty sierra]

Hades? Yeah time it correctly

[fiery osprey]

My keepsakes i ran were:
Poseidon
Then spiked collar
Then lucky tooth
Stayed with lucky tooth

[hearty sierra]

And try not to attack while dashing if you're trying to avoid

It messes with your i-frames

[fiery osprey]

What are iframes?

[hearty sierra]

Invincible frames

There's a few frames that, when you dash, you can't get hit

[fiery osprey]

Oh??

I didnt know this

[hearty sierra]

So if you dash at the right moment you can still be in the radius of attack and not get hit

Try it in tartarus

Dash towards a numbskull or something

[fiery osprey]

Oh okay

[vapid narwhal]

not just a few frames

[fiery osprey]

Is it like the first split second of dashing in?

[vapid narwhal]

Zagreus is completely immune to damage from the moment he starts dashing till the dashing ends and he comes to a stop

like the entire dashing animation is a huge iframe window

[fiery osprey]

Ooooh

[vapid narwhal]

and yes, dash strike disables it

[hearty sierra]

If you want to practice it, you can use the Ruthless Reflex mirror upgrade

[fiery osprey]

😳

[hearty sierra]

You should have it

[fiery osprey]

Ohhh okay

[vapid narwhal]

so you are vulnerable to damage if you dash strike

if you just dash to avoid damage, dont dash strike

[raw herald]

Unless you have delta chamber

[hearty sierra]

Ruthless Reflex helps you time dashes better imo

[raw herald]

It gives you i-frames

[fiery osprey]

Idk what ruthless reflex is

Ill look for that

[raw herald]

Mirror talent

[hearty sierra]

Then you're not far enough

[vapid narwhal]

commit to avoiding damage if you just want to do that

[hearty sierra]

Don't worry about it for now

[fiery osprey]

Okie dokes

Thanks though

[vapid narwhal]

dash strike is a tactical tool that may or may not be useful for a build

[fiery osprey]

Ill look into that

[hearty sierra]

There's a special zeus boon for near-avoidance though

Good practice for that

[vapid narwhal]

yeah there are a few

there is also one for hermes

[hearty sierra]

Also never knew zag was invul for the ENTIRE time

[vapid narwhal]

yep, you can not be hit through the entirety of the dash

[hearty sierra]

Next time hades does his Minato Uzumaki thing I'll do that

[vapid narwhal]

it's very, very generous

[fiery osprey]

Wait… so entire dash, zag is invul? So if i just dash literally in and out of hades’ body space while he’s attacking, i shouldnt get hit?

[vapid narwhal]

yep

you can dash through everything in the game and take no damage

[fiery osprey]

Wow i had no idea of enemies attacks tho

Cool

[hearty sierra]

Beo fists, greater reflex, greatest reflex

[fiery osprey]

Ill deff try this next time

[hearty sierra]

Dash as your main source of damage

[fiery osprey]

Thanks everyone

[vapid narwhal]

there is also Divine Dash, widely considered as the best boon in the game.

[fiery osprey]

Oooooh

Sounds

… divine

[hearty sierra]

It reflects attacks so you have an even wider window

[vapid narwhal]

it doesnt extend your iframes, but the deflect means you are extra safe against range attacks

like you could still be hit by the elite witches in Elysium since their projectile is huge and can scatter

but a deflect completely nullifies it

[fiery osprey]

Oh is that an athena boon?

[remote void]

Isn't Divine Dash guaranteed on your first run, since Athena is a guaranteed spawn?

[hearty sierra]

Athena, yes

Divine dash, no

Cast, attack, special and dash

Most would pick attack

[vapid narwhal]

no you are only guaranteed Athena as you first god

not necessarily divine dash in the selection

but the odds are high

[remote void]

I usually go for Dash since I frequently use and abuse Dash Strike

[vapid narwhal]

and since you cant get ME from dash, you should choose attack/special anyway

[rich seal]

Does distant memory work with doom?

[raw herald]

I'm pretty sure you can only get attack/special/dash first boon

[raw herald]

Yes

[remote void]

So I have Ignited Ichor, Greater Haste, and Heart of Stone giving me an 8% speed boost

20%, 40%, and 8% speed boosts respectively

How much of an increase would that be? I remember someone in here saying it's multiplied, not added.

[raw herald]

81.44%

[remote void]

Just got Rush Delivery as well

[raw herald]

Nice

[remote void]

50% damage boost based off of how much extra speed I have

So I'm doing an Approval Process 1 run

And a Prophetic Duo Boon was barred

[polar root]

Feelsbadman

epic rush delivery is the dream

[weary jackal]

Epilogue Achieved, finally

[polar root]

niceeeeeeee

[weary jackal]

I now have 28 Ambrosia, 16 diamonds, and 2 Titan blood
What to use this all on, I have no idea

[remote void]

Ambrosia for Diamonds, Diamonds for Contractor Work

And I would upgrade gear in that case

[vapid narwhal]

ambrosia is for character relationship

[polar root]

Erebus gates are super nice

they were the last thing I got tho.

[weary jackal]

I got Erebus pretty early

[brisk trail]

same, and then i couldn't use them for a good while because i wasn't nearly at 5 heat lol

[whole ridge]

My goal immediately after cleaning up the non-Olympian gifts is going to be mirror

After Mirror I guess I can work on the badges and/or themes

But like, the authorities are so damned expensive

[wise oasis]

They're worth it though

[whole ridge]

At least they get expensive

[wise oasis]

persuasion especially

[whole ridge]

Oh I'm not disagreeing, they are very much worth it. A reroll can be worth a fortune in games like this, but I do feel Persuasion may be a bit overpriced

What number do each cap at by the way?

[weary jackal]

I think I saw someone say 4

[wise oasis]

persuasion at 4, authority at 8

[whole ridge]

Gotcha, thank Hades Persuasion is at 4, I dunno if I could handle any higher

[weary jackal]

Fated Keys are your best friend

[whole ridge]

Ye

Legit though, I did have one good Darkness run where I got 1k off of Hades

Two Chaos boons boosting it for 200% combined and a rare Ocean's Bounty

I probably will also at some point go through with the bow to also clean up my 0 heat bounties

Because despite having Heat 2/3 bounties with the bow I totally forgot to clean up the Heat 0 ones with it xD

[wise oasis]

Honestly for me I got most of hte darkness I needed just ramping heat up and trying heats I struggled with, racked up darkness pretty quick while enjoying the challenge

[whole ridge]

Maybe, but for explicitly Darkness grinding it's generally safer to do Heat 0

I am not too concerned on higher heat/bounties quite yet

And care very little for the trophies Skelly has

[wise oasis]

the rewards are amazing

[whole ridge]

I also am probably gonna tackle the higher heats for the trophies with an 80% God Mode

Just to get them outta the way

When I tackle EM4 I'm not gonna be using God Mode though

[wise oasis]

8 and 16 heat arent too bad imo

[whole ridge]

I know

I already have 8, I dunno what the last one is tho

[wise oasis]

hint: follows a pattern

[whole ridge]

So 32?

[hearty sierra]

Yep

[whole ridge]

That's ridic

[hearty sierra]

It's a big leap from 16, sure

[raw herald]

Just need a 4th statue for 64 heat

[hearty sierra]

There's always the pins in #h1-high-heat-strategies if you need a guide

[whole ridge]

Forget that xD

That would be cruel to the completionists

[hearty sierra]

Lmao 64 heat is the literal max

Also impossible unless you're on hell mode

[whole ridge]

Ye

[raw herald]

It's impossible if you're on hell mode as well, unless you want to route stuff

[whole ridge]

He means you literally can't even reach 64 heat unless on Hell Mode

[hearty sierra]

I mean, impossible to do, sure

[whole ridge]

Bounties go up to... 20 Heat? Right?

[wise oasis]

yep

[whole ridge]

Alright, I couldn't recall

[wise oasis]

for 20 heat you should do em4 ri4 ap1

[whole ridge]

What's ri and ap?

[raw herald]

The worst pacts in existence

[whole ridge]

I only know a couple shorthands

[wise oasis]

routine inspection (no mirror) and less boon options

ap is approval process

[whole ridge]

Oh yeah not a chance

[raw herald]

That's why 64 heat is impossible, you lose stubborn defiance and can only take ~3 hits for the whole run

[whole ridge]

Oh yeah, that reminds me, I need to clear a run with each pact at any level in order to clear a Fate

[wise oasis]

dc2 td3 hl5 lc4 em2 then

on hestia

[whole ridge]

It is possible, just extremely unlikely without extreme degrees of routing and RNG manipulation

[wise oasis]

64 has been done routed

unrouted record is 61 rn

[whole ridge]

Oh? What wasn't used?

Let me guess, the mirror one

[polar root]

me dying in 32 heat

[raw herald]

CP2 and RI4

The rest was maxed

[polar root]

dude 32 is hard

im dying inside

I'd rather get a sub 10

[wise oasis]

32 sword took me so many tries

[whole ridge]

Thankfully 32 only needs to be done once

[polar root]

yup

[wise oasis]

must be done 6 times!

for 32 all weps!

[polar root]

man

imma really do go die now

[whole ridge]

That's a thing?

[wise oasis]

after that I get to never touch spear ever again :D

[raw herald]

I'm going to do a 32 heat all weps speedrun one day

[wise oasis]

I do it cuz challenge

[polar root]

Why u no like spear

[wise oasis]

or am doing it

[whole ridge]

Ahhh, not a thing.

[polar root]

spear gud

[whole ridge]

A fun

[wise oasis]

spear stinky

[polar root]

no it not

[whole ridge]

Spear is pretty good

[polar root]

go try B A N A N A

[modern garnet]

It's a 10 foot pole

[whole ridge]

I made it through all of Tartarus trying to die with it

[wise oasis]

I do cast builds on achilles

[whole ridge]

I was literally standing still only pressing the attack button

[wise oasis]

I dont like it, feels bad and doesnt do enough damage for me

[polar root]

"Is it like a fishing pole of some kind or what" -Skelly.

[wise oasis]

without flurryjab that is

[whole ridge]

But Achilles is my preferred spear ngl

[modern garnet]

Spear and shield have underwhelming damage.... until you get their hidden aspects :)

[whole ridge]

I'm waiting until 80 God hood to even try for Guan Yu prophecy

[polar root]

hidden spear best spear

[wise oasis]

Guan yu isnt that bad, just special everything from 2 miles away

[modern garnet]

Hidden spear rocks

[whole ridge]

It's the health cut that is the problem for me xD

[gentle cloak]

Omg I turned the timer off and ||Hermes was like "Hey you turned it off, are... Are you okay?"||

[whole ridge]

XD

He complimented my speed in one of my more recent runs that I got a personal best on

[polar root]

Hermes sad now :((((((

[modern garnet]

Beowolf has a health cut too, basically, but no one complains about THAT

[polar root]

I GOT ONE YESTERDAYYY

[gentle cloak]

I'll do a speedrun for him, as a treat

[polar root]

its not health cut

[wise oasis]

but beowulf so good that no one notices

[polar root]

just dont get hit

[raw herald]

It's HL0.5

[whole ridge]

I forgot what challenge I got off that run tho. I had Ares Poseidon cast with Poseidon slam stuff, as well as just a lot of damage

[modern garnet]

Taking more damage is the same as a health cut

Roughly

[whole ridge]

Like, nothing could really slow me down.

[wise oasis]

Hows slicing flare? I never used it cuz it seemed too memey for me

[raw herald]

It's bad

For speedruns that is

It's the only flare that doesn't have a sub 7, and that includes shackle zag flare lmao

[wise oasis]

[modern garnet]

That sounds like a challenge

[whole ridge]

With how many gemstones I had given to the Wretched Broker I probably could have gotten all the (non-diamond) furniture by now

[wise oasis]

yeah I used it and it seemed like stacking the flares didnt stack the damage

Which made me go ok nvm resetting

[whole ridge]

But I'm more focused on the bonds before furniture

[modern garnet]

Wouldn't you run stygian soul to do slicing flare?

[raw herald]

Idk, the build is not optimised in any way

[whole ridge]

Still waiting on Hypnos favor >~>

[wise oasis]

Chaos is my best friend they gave me casts

[whole ridge]

Chaos is great period, we just pranked Hades by beating him up with an egg

I love his little laugh after Hades' death when you do it

[wise oasis]

I want hunting blades to affect blade dash

[whole ridge]

Looking down boon list, seems getting duo boons isn't gonna be too bad

Most require just one skill boon from a God to be available

Also I beat Than by not letting him get a kill recently too, that was fun xD

[forest falcon]

Does buying aspects count as investing into them

[whole ridge]

If referring to for the 5 Titan Blood for each hidden aspect, yes

[forest falcon]

Alr

[whole ridge]

I recommend buying each aspect anyways before doing upgrades

Well, plus whatever else required to unlock the hidden

Which is... think 2 extra Titan Blood beyond the aspect unlocks on everything but the Spear?

[kind swan]

Man, the giant rats in Styx are annoying with Arthur Sword.

[whole ridge]

Ehh, not that bad

I take advantage of the fact you can dash mid combo

[raw herald]

Tidal dash with breaking wave absolutely demolishes Styx, but you lose the safety of divine dash ig

[whole ridge]

And that too

By Styx ya don't really need divine dash

[kind swan]

How, when the attacks are so slow?

[whole ridge]

Exactly

You can dash during the animation

A trait seemingly exclusive to Arthur

[kind swan]

I thought dashing would cancel the attack

[whole ridge]

I've dashed to reposition for the big swipe

[raw herald]

If you hold down attack while dashing, you dash strike quicker

It's weird

Can test it on skelly

[whole ridge]

It's a neat thing with Arthur too, so long as you're already in the combo, you can dash during it to reposition for the stronger hits

Arthur is a bit slow a weapon on it's own though, even though fun

[kind swan]

I'll keep that in mind for the next run.

[quartz garden]

that technique works for every sword aspect, but it‘s much easier and more useful to do with arthur

[whole ridge]

Ye

I figured it out on my third Arthur run, it works so well using that technique with Crit Arthur with armor piercing.

Third swing with crit did like, 2k damage

I had Tidal Dash with Crashing Wave too so the dash in added more damage on top of that

Second run I lost due to just not getting enough damage output

First run was 10th clear so didn't even fight Hades

[polar root]

that'd be so coooool

I never actually picked up blade dash other than for the prophecy

[weary jackal]

Ares is bad
Change my mind

[polar root]

Ares bad only because he doesnt have a call

he got a nokia 3130

[weary jackal]

Urge to kill is eh
Doom is only good on certain weapons
He doesn’t have a call
His cast is only good with a duo

[polar root]

curse of longing is fun thooooooooo

curse of longing on chaos shield

curse of nausea is pretty fun on chiron

[wise oasis]

Battle rage is great

1 shot chains pog

[polar root]

battle rage guan yu MMMMMMM

heyyyyy

welcome

Any questions about the game

we can help

Try hades for new players channel too

this channel has the all the spoilers

[gritty roost]

howdy

[polar root]

Hello.

[viral fable]

Is there any "easy" way of triggering dialogue between demeter and zeus about our mother

[thin canyon]

do you mean duo boon dialogue ?

[hearty sierra]

Just run more

And grab demeter keepsake

You'll see her more and thus exhaust her dialogue faster

Though... Faster is relative - this game has A LOT of dialogue

[deep zenith]

Oh my

Oh my

Goodness gracious

Dusa

[brisk trail]

dusa our beloved

[brisk trail]

Do I need to have Meg appear in Tartarus for her to be in the house?

[stoic flame]

no

[brisk trail]

She's never in the lounge unless I beat her. Where would she be?

[mint coral]

if she is not in the lounge/talking with other character she is just not there

[brisk trail]

Ah okay. Im trying to max out her affection is all.

Can you deflect Theseus' spear with athenas dash?