#h1-discussion
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In 32 heat, yes
Depends on the heat
For high heat/if you die a lot on normal chambers
But not on usual <15 heat
for you, use death defiance
SD is more useful for 20+
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i tried 16 heat which was em4 fo2
Hmmm
hades is kinda hard
Possibly one of the hardest ways to do 16 heat
I like your style
brave soul
Maybe RI4 EM4 LC4
Legit one of the hardest ways to do 16
Oops that's more than 16
Maybe HL5 could compete
well thing is, fo 1 em 4 was easy as pie
i would argue RI4 + extra is harder but yeah
fo2 though...
ri4 lc4 seems like actual torture
whats ri and lc again
routine inspection aka you lose the entire mirror
HL5, EM4 and that heat that makes traps deal more
routine inspection and lasting consequences, removes mirror and lowers healing respectively
Routine Inspection (limits mirror perks) Lasting Consequences (less heal)
Nothing
None
nope
nothing aside from SD heals
There are very few exceptions to it
Basically no-hit the full run
so you are looking at 50HP 1 dash for EM4 heh
routed though
Had epic RD and killing freeze
so perfect RNG on anything he wants
Basically FO-1
Alright, theoretically possible
what's the best progress on 64?
I mean, the routed 64 clear was still extremely impressive, but 64 heat unseeded is basically impossible
whats the best keepsakes to go for?
unseeded 64 I mean
I've gotten to Lernie but that's it
Late Elysium I believe, maybe that was 63
i used to go 150 gold then persephone one
God keepsake/ God keepsake/ Acorn, Purse, whatev/ Acorn, Tooth, Spearpoint
the meta is usually god start to force builds then pom blossom or acorn till the end
now im trying to actually choose god ones to force build then go the patroclus one
aside from a few exceptions
but it didnt work for fo2 em4
yeah
61
feather on zag fists or shackle on boonless for example
61
i think god/god/acorn/acorn is more popular than blossom
whats acorn
god/god/acorn/acorn is solid
yeah I'm doing 20+ recently and I found acorn being very useful now
Keepsake
what does it do
Blocks 5 hits in bosses
first 3/4/5 hits from region bosses are voided
You don’t take damage from the first 5 hits in boss encounters
ah that one
just from end region bosses
is it better than spearpoint?
yes
Yes
yes
Only time it isnt is if you lose a lot of defiances in styx tunnels
since it gives you more time to deal with the poison
effectively doubles to 2.5x your effective HP vs EM3 or hades
also it only works for first X hits period, not like each phase?
first 5 hits period
Period
its first 5 hits, no matter how long
one of the best for elysium and styx
But if you get hit by enemies you still lose a charge
cuz i ran spearpoint
if you are having trouble vs the bosses
Which is why you don't take it in EM4
Butterfly summon goes brrrr
acorn is far better vs EM3 and normal dad
I find sometimes I lose lots of my acorn in em3 to the minigun
same
Because if you aren’t paying attention you get hit 3 or 4 times by it
so if i get hit all the times with acorn in ely
does it reffresh for styx or something
Oh it refreshes every biome
ah i see
And it only affects the final boss
they dont carry over though
Of each biome
interesting
you can also take chaos egg because chaos thinks its funny
well ive already done that
Any tips for speeding up gifting Gods? Is it efficient to choose the right boon, hope you don't get a hammer at the start, gift then die?
Don’t be
same but aphrodite
That takes the fun out of the game
still hasnt unlocked her heart for me
If you wanna do it as fast as you can, put the keepsakes on, turn on ri4 hs, and repeat
Just use their keepsake at the start of each run
but its pretty quick if you just play normally
I've had 50 hours worth of fun, and this grind won't change that I promise you, I'm just looking for efficiency
you get a nice amount of gods per run
playing normally is probably faster tbh because you can encounter more than one in a run
more than one in tartarus even
you can get up to 8 in a run (7+hermes)
Get your 4 god pool, then suicide if you want, most efficient I can see
That makes sense, plus I can gift Sisyphus as well
room 1 doesnt get you hermes so you have to go deeper for his gift anyway
Ugh forgot about Hermes
plus Chaos
Chaos is done thankfully, much focus on them
them* 
I just focused too much on the people at the house lol, barely gifted any Gods
What does the bounty reward cap out at?
got a question for you all
20
What bounty reward
heat bounties
maxes out at 20
20 ok almost done then
Wait there's a cap at 20??
pog
I had no idea
ty
pure bragging rights past 20
whats ya question
also only need 16 to get all achievements
Makes sense that everything below 20 is easy
Zag no sus
is it possible to max out all weapon aspects for all weapons with titan blood with 70 titan blood to spare max all cthonic companions have over 120 diamonds max out all mirror talents before your 80th run or is my friend hacking
Zag vented guys
because to my knowledge even just getting over 120 diamonds in 80 runs sounds absurd
Hacking or something
that's p sus ngl
You can buy diamonds
yeah ik
if your friend has 70 blood to spare thats not right
80 clears or 80 runs?
Technically
but every run?
Maybe with absolute peak efficiency, and insane luck but idk
GUYS NO WAY
getting the rng of diamond in styx shop EVERY run is like dream luck
that's def save edit for sure
i knew it
if they have 70 left over they're cheating
It’s possible still or whatever
like thats an absurd amount over what they'll have
you need a ton of prophecies to have any sort of overflowing blood
15 an aspect multiplied with 16 weapons?
also their save says they have 6800 darkness
yep save edit
Yeah impossible, then
but then in the game at top left it says over 18000 on pause screen
Guys
is that a known bug or save edit thing?
yeah thats edited
save edit
You know how you can upgrade keys and gems right?
Both are possible
Get on with it
in game it says 16000 darkness but when loading into save it says 6800
save spot only tracks actual darkness obtained
They likely edited in more darkness
thats what i thought
You can safely call him out, then
it breaks trackers
After you upgrade keys,darkness,nectar and gems
in game it tracks darkness put into the mirror
Which one is the best
i called him out and he got all mad at me
lmao
What are you rerolling exactly?
so i just wanted to see if i was right tbh
you can reroll boon choices
Looking for boon choices
could be that they traded in darkness for other stuff
Oh okay
or chamber rewards
Ive cheated in lunar coins in ROR2, it breaks trackers. Trackers generally arent built to deal with things like that
which makes the in game lower, maybe?
yeah but it says overall darkness is 6800
lunar coins are shtupid
not current
where does it say that?
fated persuation/fated authority
They have 70 blood after maxing all weapons, theres no way
like outside the savefile?
True! Only reason I cheated them in
Before you get into the game, yeah
when on main menu
It shows your total darkness earned
xD
i did the same LOL
but then in main game it says 16000
when loading up the save there is a darkness counter
and they maxed mirror of talents
I mean, that in of itself is impossible
nothing wrong with cheating in stuff, it's a single player game
but just don't go and say that it's legit
simple
Man just wanted to look cool
yeah fair enough
if save slot and in game mirror mismatches it's almost certainly save edit
Guys I’m going insane
Every time I go to chaos or use the hell portal thing
I say sus
Lmao make them do a run side by side with you
who and where was this?
Stream over discord
What is the pact of punishments benefits
in private vc
damn where do yall stream hades lol
Anyone who can beat EM4 hades is good
you get more blood and such
not on the server anywhere
I need burner to finish the fated list stuff
This server doesnt have vcs
burner only shows up in asphodel
Just make a group chat or something
I found my next objective
Whoop his ass
changing the subject tho thoughts on demeter cast?
i like it
i hear its very unpopular but ive gotten some broken runs with it
fun on achilles but needs a lot of effort to make it good
Also practically guarantees that boon that damages whenever you cast
Arctic blast?
think thats it
Snow burst
Artic is 10 stacks of chill = removed and do damage
I can’t remember anyone’s name
6.5% of players made 16 heat
Go for it, smack dad's face in with his own spear
so i think that's p good already
Wait what
That spear is his???
it says Hades Aspect
You could use that
i still aint done my 16 heat yet slowly working each weapon up to iy
reminds me what do you guys reccomend for heat runs as easiest options to have on?
Hades gotta eat his own spear, man
Middle management
TD2, EM4, LC2, MM
Varatha is Hades' old spear
i always have extreme measures maxed since im getting used to it but outside that what else?
Is super easy to use
EM4?
It must have been a sight when Lord Hades wielded Varatha the Eternal Spear versus the Titans, driving back those fiends into the depths, together with the help of his Olympian brothers and sisters.
im very used to em3
but i want to get used to em4 now
TD1/2, LC1, CF1, BP1, JS1 are all not bad
em4 makes it much harder
beat it twice so far
EM4 is free heat below 20
most people avoid em4 for as long as they can
i went for it as fast as i could lol
EM4 isn't free wtf are you talking about xD
I wish this game had more bosses tbh
in general EM4 isnt recommended until way later, like 40+
It's like that guy earlier who commented about FO2 being free when you got used to it
tbh im more scared of the more damage stuff the simpler things
em4 is def fun
EM4 TD3 + 5 sack = a very likely dead run
or the overtime one where they are faster
Id say you can do em4 up to 16 without worrying too much
FO1 isnt bad
EM4 Hades takes a long time to kill
Fo1 is nice
but past that it gets bad
im getting used to em4 hades tbh
TD2 EM4 isnt bad at all
Yeah I'd say if you're doing 16, then EM4 isn an alright pick
but if you are just doing bounties
whats td2 again?
there are easier ways
Thight deadline
Has anyone beaten full heat
Tight deadline, 7 mins a biome
time limit 7 min per biome
One
Like max everything
oh ive done maxed out td
Only routed
theres a pin in #h1-high-heat-strategies about heat modifiers with tips on how to do 32 heat runs, im sure you can adapt that to 16
so how would maxed tight deadline em4 go if ive done both seperately?
Badly
Depends on your build
Horrendously
I really wish we can edit that guide. It encourages LC4 which a lot of people think are unnecessary.
you wont get enough time with TD3 EM4 unless you are, good, like REALLY good
TD3 is the stuff of nightmares with EM4
ive been using the arthur sword most lately but used to use gilgamesh fists
Like it's fine, but the guide makes it as if it's the only way to go which isn't right.
EM4 is a LOOOONG fight
I think the SD/LC4 is the way to go for more casual players
i think im not terrible 😎
I cant do SD/LC4
TD3 makes the game nerve-wracking
I dont see the problen with pushing lc4
Once you get it is 4 heat that you can avoid it on something else
for reference ive finished epilogue and maxed all keepsakes
i used LC4 at 20 heat for bounties and it was pretty cool, much less intimidating than other options imo
I respectfully disagree. I've helped 3 or 4 people getting 32. They all tried LC4 path and then said the non-LC4 path was easier
I've also done that and I sometimes cant clear a non EM4 16
32 heat is where im scared currently
I only used DD for 32 eris
jumping to 32 from 16 is really hard
I don’t think I can ever not play TD3 anymore
im not saying it's a bad way to do it, just that it shouldn't be the "encouraged" way as the guide suggests.
But used lc3 in that case
Maybe so! I may have a different play style and thus differing experiences
I did 16 - 20 - 25 -32
oh btw another heat question
felt like a nice progression
if i do a 10 heat run for example
will i skip rewards from all heat beneath 10 on that weapon?
You're right in that it should encourage a more open approach as opposed to "this is the set way to do 32 heat", though
How do you get flurry shot
you cant skip bountie
Nope
i did the jump from 19 to 32
no, itll give you the minimum reward
Seeing that red timer at the bottom with 10 plus minutes feels like I’m going easy on the pact
Specific weapon aspect?
so i can still do a 9 heat run on same weapon and it will give me all the rewards?
only rama cant get flurry iirc
i see
you can only get your next highest
so i should just move up 1 heat at a time
I went from max 11 to 32 i think, though the weapon i used to do 32 was at 5 heat at the time.
I wish I could do 20 heat at 1 heat to knock them all out at once lmao
you can move up at whatever pace you want
if you are just grinding runs it's ok to just do 16 repeatedly
some mad lad went from 0 to 41 a while ago
you can do whatever you feel like, i repeatedly did 20 to clear bounties instead of moving up one at a time
what a legend
i almost always went over my highest heat bc i wanted to use the pacts that sounds fun
then re use those same until i reach the heat
more fun too
I just feel like the healing is nigh irrelevant at that point
for some reason i feared more hard labor than things like fo1/MM
I'd only take LC3 if I were doing a Guan Yu run
I used to be really scared of bp for some reason
its not terrible
except for seeker witches 😡
bp is fun
Bp2 SUCKS
i use it more than mm
oh reminds me
speedy fo2 teleporting mini chariots
More so when they're elite

is there any way to get the ui themes BEFORE unlocking them as a work order?
Just dash smh my head
Nope
Have to unlock them then use them
Speeder cloner witches
ive heard something of a preorder or beta reward
cuz friend has the chthonic theme and he dont even got themes unlocked yet in work orders?
same friend with the edited file?
I haven't been in the game for that long... Alma, is this a thing?
yea
Kekw
they could have edited it probably
they really went all out then lol
i really dislike cloner ww
Why do you even believe them at that point
Cloner sucks, yeah

Piercing weapons take care of them, though
tryna tell him to chill not even mad
Definitely hacking lol
there were no rewards for having the game in early access, the chthonic theme is available for everyone? thats strange
i mean the price went up during early access but i dont think thats what were talking about here
yeah nah thanks for answering tho
Lmao I don't think so either
oh and early buyers on epic got a free soundtrack. but not it either lol
nothing in game
themes become available once you get all the work orders iirc so does your friend have all of them?
they dont even got them unlocked in work orders yet
not met the requirements
they saying its a bug or something but im not stupid

i have not heard of a bug like that but just in case you can report bugs in game using the F10 key
its likely not a bug, their friend has an edited save. Likely part of that
so favourite boon?
vicious cycle hits like a truck
Yesn't
Doom stone moment
What’s the highest crit you guys got mine is 1946
5k
3k i think
Noice noice
I’m the only one in my friend group who hates cursed slash my friends love it and are like “eh why don’t you like it!” Don’t like having no health for my death defy
i dont like it because it doesnt work on dash strikes
i hated it since the first time i got it
Like I love having huge amounts of health but cursed slash heck nah
Cause healing a good hunk of health sounds nice but it’s like 60% cut
I remember my first good run ever with Stygius, I got only a single mediocre hammer, so I grabbed anvil and it gave me cursed slash, and the health cut literally killed the run
Whether good or bad, it has gained my ire for life
also like muck said, the fact it doesnt work on dash strike is sad
I tried a sword run with cursed slash, and another with the boon that increases damage based on the amount of gold you have. 2500 gold later and the build is still weak. I'm just not a fan of the sword
those are two bad hammers for the sword
I tried a run with the money one, then I actually considered the math when it was too late. 1000 gold only equals 50 damage
They should put hoarding slash on the rail that would be cool
i just beat the second floor my first time through it😳
sry bot
9 hp left i was using the bow
Good luck in elysium
what
That's a floating head
I replaced her assets, but how did this game get a teen rating with aphrodite being the way she is?
One would think with all the other changes the devs made to the myths that changing her design wouldn't have been off the table.
I went and replaced the asset the game calls for her, but still
you would think with how the esrb is, that they would have slapped an M rating for her alone.
Then we would be able to swear
there are swears in the game
or do people not consider the hydro-electric generator water wall word as a swear anymore?
Aphrodite has covers what are you talking about heh heh heh
How does one do that?
Thing in mirror I believe
having damn/hell/similar caliber swears doesn't make a game mature
mod server, though I didn't have to add any mods, just replace a file that the game calls on for her sprite.
I didn't say having those swears did?
I just said that there were some on the game
mod server invite sent, happy modding
I’ve got to beat the boss 4 more times then I have “beat” the game
I have not received this invite. Probably related to already being in the modding server
that's not how the rating system works lol
Pretty sure thesus swears when he misses you
for future reference, the invite to the modding server is pinned in #self-promotion
I heard of a yarn that increse the possiblity to get legendary and dual boons but what is it a yarn
You buy it from the Wells of charon
man gifting Megaera is such a pain in the ass. Ran into her three times in a row and the first two times she was talking to other people, and the third she didn't show up in the house
Do y'all think we'll ever get a new content update?
The Yarn of Ariadne?
It’s from the Theseus and the Minotaur myth

Do rewards change with higher heat or is it always blood/diamond/nectar/blood?
it's always the same
But with added suffering each time!
i think the order can randomize sometimes but its unlikely
What?
No, it’s always blood/diamond/ambrosia/blood
how long did it take yall to get chaos's defiance boon? ive played 160 runs and i usually take 2+ chaos boons but ive never seen it :(
i swear ive seen it not be blood/diamond/ambrosia/blood
god damn elysium is hard
i got a duo boon that made all of my boons epic quality at least and i still died
skill issue
I'm so unskilled I keep dying if I don't get the best boons
i cant win without chaos shield
i got to the hades fight but i only had 1 death defiance left since i suck at fighting theseus and asterius
Asterius and other guy*
@weary jackal Is this think here? https://preview.redd.it/n0vcuzpdp9741.png?width=890&format=png&auto=webp&s=a9aba07a070cc75f24984cac342fc5cf87b25eb8
Yeah that
Hades was early access
not the one under idk what is that but the one above
I’ve had those together before
I don’t think they stack unfortunately
how do i get extremer measures
its 1 use per room
Buy it from the house contractor
it says i can find it from the contractor after beating hades but it does not show up
No, it’s single use
You get it from the Pool of Charon
It’ll appear eventually
Try upgrading the house contractor’s bench
how do i do that
yes i happen to buy 2 and 1 got used in the next room and the other was still usable for the next room so they don't stack for extra rarity
For a diamond or two, you can upgrade the contractors bench from him and it unlocks more stuff to build
And again, it’ll appear eventually
yeah
ok, thank you
Should I trade ambrosia for titan blood
no
Which do you need more
not worth it my opinion
I wanna make weapons stronger
You get twice as much blood as you do ambrosia per run, so if you really need blood, you can
if youve played during early access, in the beginning when bounties were just introduced it was randomized which one you got from each boss iirc
ah
i didnt play during early access
May I ask how to reunite Orpheus and Eurydice, Nyx said that there should be something in the office but I checked in there already
Only two drawers are in there for me
After Nyx tells you where the contract is, there will be a light dot in the scrolls at the back of the room that represents the location of the contract and you interact with that dot.
I don't think Nyx ever told me that, only that "having access to the chamber is a authority something something"
Then you might still be waiting on more Nyx dialogue.
I’m at about the same point I think for Sisyphus, I think you just have to keep going through her dialogue
Suicide run then, for such a important character you would think it better to have her at the house always
She show up like probably half the time I entered the house
Nyx has a lot of dialogue and is involved in a bunch of storylines & quests and thus can bottleneck occasionally especially if you are progessing quickly through the game.
Nyx? She’s there most of the time for me, you might just have bad rng
This is also true, Nyx is among the more consistent members of the house especially in the early game.
As opposed to Thanatos who apparently just dislikes existing for me
Not for me then, finished the game and had another 4 runs already but that quest still there
when you say "finished" do you mean end credits? or a single clear?
72 runs
I got the credit
I mean getting someone to come home is consider finished right ?
I’m only on run 58
Ouf
Nyx's involvement in the post end-credits story is part of the bottlenecking that I was referring to, She has a bunch of dialogue about the new status quo including dialogue with mom.
What is the "average" amount of runs that people need to get the credits ?
I just wanted avoid ambiguity, there is also an epilogue as well. So, the game has a bunch of "endings"
Am I a filthy casual
I got the credits on run #22 so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
It is hard to tell, you will hear from people that took 100 runs to get a single clear and people that got the first clear in 5 or 10 runs. Plus a certain percentage of people are clearing with God mode which is a fine choice but it makes the dataset more unclear. I think anywhere from 30-50 for the first clear is pretty common.
God mode is for scrubs
god mode is okay
does the game keep track of how many runs it takes to get your first clear?
I got my first clear run 31 and my 2nd run 32, no god mode, haven’t seen credits
You can check it in the admin chamber, just look for the first one that says Escaped
You can check the admin room and for a record of all your runs.
Got my first clear on 28th, 2nd clear is 52th
you unlock it
In the hall where Achilles is
it is the locked door to the left of Achilles
My first clear was on #12, and then I escaped 19 times in a row from there
gamer
my first time was on the somewhere around 45-50
2nd save file took me like 15 attempts
the first few runs are actually super hard
thats most definitely not a minecraft reference LOL
I recently got back into this game and decided to start a new file on hell mode
and it took me like 4 runs to actually escape
Carbon crystals are a minecraft reference
and I'm fairly experienced with the game so I definitely expected it to be easier than it was
i don't even have the ability to upgrade it rn 😦
not having the second dash is super killer early on 😦
ah yes
ngl i only enjoy playing with like 3 weapons
there's also the fact that most early builds are kind of low damage, since you dont have any mirror bonuses, calls, good weapon aspects, etc
just checked and it was actually 13 attempts
edit 2: 8 attempts
god mode gives you 20% damage reduction from all damage sources which goes up by 2% every time you die, and caps at 80%. you can enable it in the settings
i feel like i kinda cheated my first win, i mainly did damage with hangover
i just dashed a ton and it kinda did the trick
damage is damage
Math is Math!
on my first save it looks like my first escape was #17
mine was heroic call, cast, and exit wounds from artemis
i got 2 extra dashes from hermes, then a crap ton of hangover damage
i just did a ton and didn't take any damage
in my 2nd save file the first escape was sword with double edge
i kind of hate hangover tbh
it has anti synergy with itself
so you're not super excited to see a lot of dionysus like you might be with other gods
is it just me or is the sword kinda bad
My first escape was with Relentless Volley, Concentrated Volley, and Deadly Flourish (Arti) on the Aspect of Chiron
It wasn’t fair.
is decent
only gotten escapes with 4th aspects lol
you can always do ME like fists
Arthur is the only good sword aspect change my mind
im pretty sure every weapon aspect has cleared 50+ heat unseeded
I'm always happy to see dionysus, special drink is super good, and i like his cask a ton
hangover doesnt need much other gods/duo boons
which is a lot of dps vs bosses
you need poms
henlo all and rest! this timing around I see streamer playing it to hadees with muching fire spins? this new attack for timing or power bug, many can t tell for it difference lol but still cool
If you get ice wine or the Zeus one it’s good
all of them
since i don't have much skill, i just use shield and arrow from far ti win
the big issue with hangover is that you really want to only take one hangover boon
dio cast is great for hangover too
Dio call is better tho
as it opens the legendary
so dio just has a lot of kind of meh boons after you already grab hangover
for damage I take artemis, for fun I take all the hermes boons and just zoom around
i don't really care for calls that much ngl
dio is mostly good for his call
artemis call does almost 50% hades hp at max gauge
Dio, Arti, and Zeus’s calls do big damage
dio call does a lot more dps than artemis call
Dio from Jojo
zeus call can outdamage it if you have other lightning synergies
Arti is a nuke
never tried dio, all my clears are with artemis
Shut mouth
Dionysus
the thing with dio call is that you have to only use the lesser call
drunk man
his greater call is useless because hangover can only stack 5 times
but his lesser call does 600 damage at COMMON rarity
which is ridiculous
What
I remember that one run I had Lv. 6 Zeus’s call and Splitting bolt
Did so much damage
you dont notice it because its poison
zeus call is so much fun
but lesser dionysus call is ridiculous damage
how do people win with sword and gauntlets, no range is so hard
it's super useful vs bosses
strat is taking artemis boons until you find call, then hunting demeter for rare crop
heroic call by styx
gauntlet is actually fairly safe because the attacks have low lag and you can stunlock most basic enemies
by learning to use them 
if you dont like lack of range use poseidon sword and do cast build
sword is probably the weakest weapon in a vacuum though due to it being kind of unsafe to use
By using aspect of Arthur for sword and Demeter for fists.
the typical sword play pattern is spamming dash attack
since that is the safest way to do damage
i'm just so use to my shield protecting me from damage, without it melee makes me feel so unsafe
i dont use much the block, i just happen to block a lot bc i need to use the rush for beowulf
once you get better you'll be more used to just using your dash to protect yourself from damage
I have never once used the shield
all the 2 hermes boons 
i do forget to use the special 90% the time
Idk why but I have the opposite issue. Gauntlets and swords are so much easier (especially with divine dash) but I die with the bow because I stand still too long
dash strikes makes the charge faster if that helps
i just get the power shot, dash, powershot, repeat
and i kill all without taking much damage
flurry shot
the typical play pattern with basic bow is to spam dash attack
it charges much faster after a dash, which makes you safer
zag bow is simple but at least is quite great 
ngl i've done that ability like 3 times total
…..you’re kidding me
the bow is probably the "best" weapon, in the sense that all its aspects are quite strong and offer different play styles
kinda sad it doesn’t work with rama, that’d be busted
Wow, I’m gonna try it next time for sure, had no idea
Back when I first got the bow I only used that but then the gauntlets converted me haha
zag bow is attack focused, chiron is special focused, hera is cast focused, and rama is weird but very strong
the power shot ability that you can get for the shield is so good
dash strike does a little less damage but you have alot of ways to increase it anyways
Not surprising that the two weapons I didn’t get all hammers to were bow and shield
Demeter has a boon for dash strike iirc? And chaos I think
artemis has the dash strike boon
there is also urge to kill from ares
both attack and dash strike boons from chaos affect dash strike
When should I use the red bowl thing?
Why does the aspect of guan yu drip blood
cause it’s got that ancient drip
red bowl?
Ah ok
you mean the boon purger?
when you have boons you dont like (either bc they open unnecesary duos, you want to pom other boons, etc) or you need money
Yes the red blood bowl
a lot of duos dont really affect much and they sell for 450 coins
Or if you have the heat that demands you use it after clearing a level
also sometimes you get stuck with a boon your weapon doesnt benefit/can get something better
aries boons lead to some really strong duos imo
if you have a boon that you dont want, for example you took a bad attack boon on a weapon that attacks a lot, you can get rid of it
but you should just not take a boon that you dont want in the first place because that's bad
if you have a boon that doesn't do much, you can sell it for money
for example, take a useless duo boon and just sell it later
or if you have underworld customs, you're forced to use the boon purger at the end of every biome
and underworld customs is one of the easiest heat levels so you should probably take it when increasing heat
you play doom in 2 ways
merciful end (deflect triggers doom instantly)
fast weapon/multi hit go for impending doom and dire misfortune for big damage
i think ares is kind of a meh god
doom is generally not as good as other sources of damage unless you specifically have merciful end
the blade rifts can get crazy too, specially with something like achilles
blade rifts are awful until you get a ton of synergy boons
impending doom and dire misfortune with doom special for rama is crazy
and Hunting Blades
Ares is not very good without duos tbh
he is like that
He does that sometimes
is annoying
i want his keepsake
I like things that work good quickly instead of working good after I get lucky with duos
he may be in the house after
alright
the big issue is that a lot of ares boons require you to have specific other boons to be good, and if you don't have them they're either meh or actively harmful to your run
I beat him in the challenge
whereas some other gods have boons that are just really good by themselves, and only get better as you get more synergy
And then there's Demeter's cast, that is bad from the start, and either gets good or gets even worse depending on the duo
cold embrace moment
Poseidon’s cask + his wall bash ability does tons of damage
I have +2 dashes from the fast guy and damaging dash from posiedon upgraded to level 3
you can very easily get offered 3 boons that are quite bad
What
especially since poseidon attack/special are essentially unpickable on some weapon aspects
Poseidon’s ability’s that makes you get more gold and darkness is pretty good
bc he is the only one outside of chaos 
if you're just doing a resource run you start poseidon and take every light of ixion/chaos gate you see
and dont forget 
but outside of resource runs poseidon has a lot of boons that dont do much or are just bad
but the boons that are good make it up imo
I hate when I don’t get chaos at the start of a run
no chaos is painful for builds with stygian soul
you can get a good build with any god, as long as you're lucky
but I believe that the objectively correct ranking for gods in terms of how generally useful they are to a run, regardless of rng is:
Good Gods: Athena, Artemis, Aphrodite, Zeus
Less Good Gods: Ares, Dionysus, Poseidon, Demeter
the less good gods are just less reliable to get good builds from
because they're either highly synergy dependent or they have a lot of dud boons that aren't super useful
athena doesnt offer much outside of surviving more tho
at least imo
Is there a keepsake that makes it so I always get chaos at the start of a run
athena is probably the single best god for high heat runs tbh
nope, only a keepsake that makes it so you dont lose health going into chaos portals
Oh rip
divine dash is kind of a crutch for new players, but becomes super useful again as you increase the heat
and extra death defiances from athena are ridiculously valuable on high heat
What’s athena’s cask?
but most of the players dont do high heat 
if something works at high heat it works at low heat too
whereas low heat strategies dont necessarily work on high heat
Phalanx shot
You throw a basketball
also I feel like players will typically want to increase the heat as they play more of the game, if only for the extra rewards
At really high heat, all gods are useless lol
i still do the overwhelming majority of my runs with divine dash and i am like 500 hours in 
at really high heat boons are super important
i mean more than 32 heat is just bragging rights 
if you dont rng into good boons at very high heat you will die to TD
More so that you can't guarantee boons with AP2 and RI
You want last stand? Here's common bronze skin
you cant guarantee boons at high heat, but getting a good one on your primary damage button is still super important
if you dont you usually just die in tartarus to tight deadline
isnt shackle more useful then?
you just kind of have to be lucky
Shackle is taken for this reason yeah
i think a fair number of super high heat runs actually start with coinpurse
Especially on something like hestia
Anything more than 16, technically, since there are only achievements for the first 2
shackle is good in tartarus but it can gimp your run later on
there are bounties for up to 20 though so theres reason to go up to that
well you want to do up to 20 heat for bounties
il say 20 bc thats the last bounty
and then 32 heat gives you the statue
Shackle is solid throughout, nothing mindblowing but it's equivalent to epic lvl1 aphro attack
I personally did 32 heat with all aspects as a challenge
i dont think im good enough to be a true high heat gamer so 32 heat is where I stop
my last attempt at 40 ended for the fault of a fish 
If you can do 32 with all aspects, you can do 40+ with some
probably, but I feel personally accomplished enough doing 32 heat with everything
I just started a fresh file on hell mode so that's going to be my hades grind for the next while
instead of trying to push the heat higher
What modifiers does hell mode have?

HL JS LC CP and PL, which is exclusive
So +20% damage from enemies taken, +20% more enemies, -25% healing, +15% HP on enemies and no invulnerability bubble
PL is sort of like HS, where it doesnt do much most of the time and then sometimes it just randomly kills you
Yeah PL sucks
i had a run where I randomly took 80 damage from a splitter projectile...
because of no invincibility bubble
to be honest, starting from a fresh file is actually pretty rough imo
I'm really missing the mirror/not having aspects unlocked and leveled/etc.
starting from fresh makes me miss re rolls/dark foresight the most
and aspects bc some weapons feels boring
re rolls?
wow i need to play more
not having a second dash is the worst part
i was so dismayed when I only had 40 darkness after dying on my first run, lol
you get the 2nd dash pretty early at least
and I realized that I had to do a second run with no double dash
no hammers or call until later runs also sucks
and you have no death defiance and only 50 hp as well
last skill of the mirror
purple side re rolls the chamber reward and green side re rolls boons/charon well/boon purge options
rerolling boons is just much better
What does cure? Do in the styx temple
the chamber reroll is kind of bad imo
reroll chamber is for fun runs
i still don't have the 30 keys for the last thing
poison
it cures poison
Cures you from poison from the rats and satyrs
Ahh
i hate poison so much
alright
the satyrs/rats/poison traps poison you
when you get poisoned you should run for one of the cure points and take it asap
unless you're really close to killing the last enemy
Or call
the last area is just a hell hole of poison until you get lucky
dad call is surprisingly nice for the poison
yeah, finishing the map or using call also clears poison i think
guan yu is nice for negating or recovering from poison
is distant memory a good keepsake for bow?
depends on how quickly you eat the stacks of poison
should i use it
No it's not good imo
You do most damage when youre up and close to enemies
For example triple shot and point blank are the best hammers on bow, distant memory does nothing for these
i really wish there was a playground or something where i could test out boons
Can use the codex mod it you play on PC
that might be fun to play around with
generally the best keepsake if you're tryharding is:
god keepsake -> god keepsake -> personal choice -> acorn
personal choice can be something like acorn or a third god keepsake if your build is not quite complete yet, or just something else like pom blossom
i think charon's keepsake is also pretty good as well to take late because you can potentially have a well buff last until the boss
Thanks for the recommendation, i just installed the mod
The first area is great
Only complaint is the laser mini boss
The 2nd area is the best one
Not too long
Not too annoying
Fair
The third area is just TOO long
4th area sucks
0/10
wait what
how is elysium too long
aren't they all the same length?
no
no
adosphel is the shortest
tartarus is 14, asphodel is 10, elysium is 12
really? you can do encounters in tartarus super quickly
i feel like tartarus is generally the longest biome once you get to higher heats
i meant in terms of rooms
once you start adding more enemies/higher hp on enemies, the rooms are a huge slog
especially since you're still at base damage
most builds that can make it past tartarus without dying to tight deadline should be completely fine in asphodel
No
by the time you get to elysium you need your build to have come together
but you have a time buffer from asphodel being short so it's generally fine
tartarus is definitely where I feel tight deadline the most
Elysium is way longer
Super unfun
Later chambers can take 30-40s even in speedruns, you'll never see that in Tartarus
Yes
elysium is really slow if your build is bad going into it
because enemies have a ton of hp
but I think that by that time you should usually have a reasonable build
Even a good build can't make endless waves of unarmoured swordsmen spawning one at a time go quickly
honestly i dont think that the exalted are that bad
armored chariots are infinitely worse
i dislike mainly armored archers/witches and the big chariots
i find that archers and witches are fine because they have low hp
you can armor break them fairly easily
EM3 FO2 Asterius moves faster than light
Hades is kinda eh, but T&A definitely
So hades is finished yeah? It’s done the product is getting no more updates yeah?
flamewheels are the cringe. I always buy the flamewheel repellant when it shows up tbh
As far as we know
Why is it permanently 7:48
00:48
I mean in Hades
When you buy the sundial you can check the time
It is always 7:48
Is it because Ixion doesn’t move?
No idea what you're saying
Idk, I just thought it was a coincidence that you posted that at 7:48 somewhere in the world
I saw that once and got hopeful, but I assume it’s just another way of saying 7:48
Cause it's a sundial in the underworld
sundials are built for the sun, and the sun indicates time when it moves
but in the underworld, you can only tell what time it is by looking at the dimness
Also shouldn’t Nyx know whether it’s day or night
should nyx care?
As the night incarnate I think it would be weird for her not to
yeah in the myths she changes shift with her daughter Hemera, who's day incarnate
Thank you for answering a question I didn’t ask anyone but wanted to know the answer to regardless
I always thought Helios or someone would be the day incarnate, his chariot being the sun and all that
I'm not sure where to put this? I don't it's tech support but I'm not sure. Long story short, everyone in the codex has max nectar hearts. Dusa has max nectar and ambrosia. I know there's an event where she talks, asks to speak privately and gives back the ambrosia, but after 30+ runs it still hasn't triggered. At first I thought it was cause of some dialogue backlog, so I talked to every character a ton. Now they're all saying their generic filler lines (meaning as far as I can tell all the dialogue relevant would have been exhausted) including Dusa herself. Is there some sort of trigger to prompt her talking to you?
What I can tell you is posting it in multiple rooms around the same time was very much the incorrect choice
I only posted in two, the two relevant ones no less, mostly cause I wasn't sure which one would work best. Pretty simple. I'd rather you no respond if you don't have anything nice nor helpful to add to the query
Helios raises the sun, it's not the sun
Demeter literally just told me, this second, “I have a brother, Helios, the Sun.”
So Demeter says that he is the sun.
That was a weird coincidence though, you say something about Helios the second that Demeter mentions him