#h1-discussion
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Also there are sound indicators for most of those things.
It took me like 50 hours in the game
im at 247 and i didnt know that
Wait, they aren't.
i didnt make that connection but i also never watched disney's hercules so i'm in the clear
They're both Megaera tho...?
They are not the same person
Oh...
Meg in Hercules is just a human.
Meg in Hades is from the Erinyes myth.
They are different :D
I thought I was some genius when I realized the names
lul
But both Megs have an enchanting voice though
is meg named megaera in hercules too or is it short for something else
i c i c
In Hercules it's Megara (no second E)
They both have a bit of rasp in their voice.
I love it.
megara
meara
Why yes, yes I did watch that movie on Disney+ just to prove myself correct
lul
They are both different figures from Greek mythology though
Well, incorrect now
youre doing it right you're analyzing the text you're making connections to other media.. hell yeah.....
just fuzzy on the details
the execution was right but the thing was not
Now how about this?
How long did it take you to know Meg and Zag used to date?
My reasonings:
Both Greek
Both similar names
Both work for Hades
Pretty much their first interaction for me
Once I saw a speedrun and started gifting Meg
Dang that's good.
what did zag do that caused them to break yp?
once i read the codex
up*
Being Zag, I guess
once i played the game
SMOOTH CRIMINAL DUN DUN DUN DUN
I'm Zag, im Zag
Meg wanted to be a career girl.
And Zag is literally a criminal who get away with everything because his Dad is the boss.
n zag was forcing meg into a position where her career rode on killing him lol
Gets away with it is a bit much
Okay, maybe he gets spanked in the end. But big whoop
he just gets to keep trying!
by meg Kappa
That just made me think of the post Hades death narrator where he says that Zag slipped on a banana peel and just died
where did zag find a banana peel
on the ground, presumably
In Greece
Was there banana in ancient Greece?
You never noticed that bananas featured prominently in Greek mythology?
Not really, like unironically
n o
Of course, you haven't read that Apollo's favorite snacks were bananas???
no
Seriously though, I don't think ancient Greeks had any idea what bananas were
this banana stuff. this is the good critique . this is what i'm here for
oh god oh no
Wait
Posephone was planting tomatoes and squash in her garden
wight
The actual timeline for the setting is never stated, so maybe it takes place post 15th century
That's fake news literally
Pesephone, more like, Pesephony, am I right?
What do you call Persephone with a lot of make-up on?
i dont know, what Do you call Persephone with a lot of make-up on
Persephora
hahahaha
ECKS DEE
HADES
yes hay deez
No
arrives late, no one asked for this but here's hades meg's va singing hercules meg's "wont say i'm in love" you're welcome
https://twitter.com/avalonpenrose/status/1341214572556951552
omg
I don't get this, you know how achievement percentages are always really low
apparently 24% of players not only beat Hades but beat it ten times
wtf do people see in this game that they play it so much
jesus christ man
i think we have talked about this already
give it a rest please
why do you keep bringing this back up dude
holy jesus
you need to stop.
I'm saying like if this was any other game
How dare people enjoy something I don't? Stop having fun.
p l e a s e g o d
even just beating it one time would be like 5% completion
have you guys ever actually looked at achievement percentages?
I have another reason to think I am right but I am wrong
beating it 10 times is 24%
24% is like the percentage in most games for getting a mandatory achievement less than an hour in lol
24% in most games is like "beat the second chapter"
I just don't get why normies are so in love with this game
then just dont get it
i'm glad that other people are getting enjoyment out of the game enough to play it that much. i don't think that speaks to, like, anything negative?
but please just drop it
I'm not saying it's negative
I mean it's cool that people play their games
but it's negative to every other game that no one plays other games yet plays Hades specifically this much
like literally nothing relevant even happens after the first run
I actually laughed out loud at this.
im like 500% sure this is ur opinion
ok you can put on some modifiers to make the same enemies, same bosses, and same room layouts just be a little diffferent
Mod don't mute him. He's funny.
nahaha make that like 5000%
but why would 24% of people beat this game 10 times
they like it
because they find the game fun
the average normie literally plays a game for like 5 minutes on average
you can check average playtimes on steamspy
because they enjoy playing the game
i don't understand why you care so much about this
mods pls help
normies don't play their games, but they play Hades like obsessively, like even well beyond the point of additonal content
good for them!
@prisma wind pls help
In today's news, gamers don't understand why people have fun playing games. More at 11.
I'm just bringing up something I noticed, does no one else suprrised by that?
The gameplay loop of roguelikes has a wide appeal
if you all looked at the achievement percentages in some of your favorite games you would definitely think that's suprising
nah homie
24% of people beat the game 10 times
it's just really not that big a deal
People drop games when they get frustrated, and hades has measures in place to reduce frustration
The only explanation is that SGG bribed Steam.
Obviously
Anyway, moving on
bribed for that poggers achievement percentages

I'm just getting a very Onion vibe from today convo
banana spear enthusiast is going to sleep Sadge
Gn
I should go, too
i know

Tomorrow we shall discuss Zag Bow and why it's the best weapon in the game.

better yet, you don't have to press another button to get the crit chance on attack
I feel like Zag bow is like a solid B+ or A tier but is SO BORING
I had fun with zag bow when first starting to get the hang of bow
i respect zag bow but the others have mechanics that i think are more fun
but now I find every other bow more fun that it
I think it's funny how slow Rama is with Explosive Shot
But you end up just ripping through everything
triple shot explosive shot rama is such a meme but its so fun
Ikr
Explosive Shot Rama should be default rama
would you like to shotgun more, absolutely
Alienate everyone who likes their bowstring to pull back
🏹 🦥
I think Gilgamesh is really stinky but it's so funny having greater reflex and epic greatest reflex
seven dashes
i still think 5+ gilg dashes with posi dash is one of the funniest runs ive ever done, just so entertaining
was it optimal? nope. was it incredibly funny? yeah
LOL
The paws are just there to complete the cosplay, the dashes do all the work
oh no i say it wasnt optimal bc my boon choices for the run overall were not that great, but boy i smacked the hell out of styx
poseidon knockback in styx feels oh so good :3
its really entertaining when you lean fully into it with rupture and increased dmg on walls
its like zag just came thru styx riding a surfboard on a tidal wave
I got my pb recently with aspect and chaos with poseidon special, let's just say most styx rooms took about 2 moves
Sometimes you have to actually fight the styx enemies and be careful where you stand and stuff... and other times you just splishy splashy and its done
posi dash in styx is like summoning a legendary pokemon on those early game starter area pokemon
Poseidon's Dash is amazing before the Temple of Styx, too.
Well ofc
it is, but the tiny rooms in styx make it infinitely funnier
More importantly, wall-slam damage scales with the biome, so wall-slams do a ton of damage in Satyr tunnels.
Yeah
And by a ton of damage I mean I don't know how much, I don't know the definition of a ton of damage. 
m not a scientist.
A ton is 1000 kg
Enemies do explode as if a 1 ton weight was dropped on them, so that tracks
Now if only bosses act the same as normal enemies
There must be a mod for that right?
Just fuss with some numbers in the scripts to make your own mod
What if, hear me out, we make Hades a platform fighter
dont bulli bosses :(
With Poseidon Dash
Or add Zagreus to Smash
👀
Wait-! No! My mind is thinking of fun ways to impliment all the gods and weapons into a moveset that will bore anyone to sleep! Noooo!
ton of damage
noun \ ˈtən əv ˈda-mij
plural tons also ton
1 : all the damageSource: “Ton.” Merriam-Webster's Unabridged Dictionary, Merriam-Webster, https://unabridged.merriam-webster.com/unabridged/ton of damage. Accessed 31 Jul. 2021.
I found the definition.

It even has a source link no one here can access because who here has a subscription besides me. 
Wow
There is a 7 day free trial...
Just to search a ton of damage

scurry

AAAA
Bum bum buuuuuum
sound effects on point
Thank you
anytime
Em3 theseus is easier than regular tbh
yeah a bit
Oh, how I wish you could fight Nighty Night EM3 Theseus for that statement.
nighty night?
You're gonna be moving around a lot anyways and the bombs are that bad
Name of one of the updates
ah right
I still dislike em3 theseus 🥲 destroyer of acorn charges
makes sense
Yeah.
im going back to sleep
l u l
Gn Bana spear man
You're right, this definition definitely checks out. Nice work!
B A N A N A
I am calling him bana spear man now
well im actually not going to sleep im just watching youtube on my tv
Thanks. I knew you had my back.

so im actually going to sleep at like 5 am
Imagine sleeping
@thorn marsh nighty night.
Why was he so much harder...?
Imagine EM3 Theseus, but his bombs frequently bounce off walls with unpredictable paths, frequently giving you no time to react, so you can't rely on any of the visual indicators and have to actually look out for the bombs and where they're going.
Because those red circles are useless.
Eh
time to go get killed again
I could adapt 😎 😎 😎
gamer
Ah yes, the gaminggamer
Who partakes in everything besides feeling grass and dirt
me, a minecrafter
I did?
I always think it's funny when people say FO2 isn't so bad without realizing that if it wasn't for speed limits for certain enemy types, it would very much be "so bad".
Felt grass without going outside
I know right? I think they're just a bit overconfident
20% is bad enough
Tbh i think FO1 is kinda free
after you get used to it, it is
Forced Overtime: added foe-specific limitations in cases where this was particularly unfair...
Benefits Package: reduced how much bonus Armor could be provided by the Bruiser Perk
Those two were probably the biggest changes to make high heat a lot more accessible.
Well, that and...
Me who beat Hades their first try with it on
Making Dark Foresight actually work.
Like I said
bruiser elite snakestones
oh god I remember those days
I'm a biggaminggamer
Dark Foresight is 40% more.
I'm gonna sound dumb but what is dark foresight
It changes the odds from 50/50 to 70/30.
MAGIK
huh?
That and Lasting Consequences
Dark Foresight is a mirror talent.
Wait
Nyaanyaa Mewmew to the rescue
I'm thinking of something else lol
It gives you "+20%" gold laurel rewards.
It's not my fault I'm stupid I swear
Which, as I just explained, works out to change the odds from 50/50 to 70/30.
Us gamers across the world got a net-iQ of about 14
Swearing is not allowed.

No omg pls no ban no please
Oh no!
did dark foresight used to change it to 60/40?
It used to change it from 50/50 to 50/50.
totally worth the darkness :O
What
Math is hard
So true
It just simply didn't work.
Ah, I wanted to ask if marked is counted as a status curse
Hunter's Mark? Yes.
Im still a firm believer that it's kinda overrated
what is?
Hunters mark
is infinite crits bad?
still is a really good choice
it SHREDS on nemesis sword
any aspect
hunter's mark Hestia? MHM
Pressure Points + Hunter's Mark is amazing on anything.
Idk, it's just that I don't find myself clearing rooms all that much faster with it
pp good
I hope you're not using Deadly Strike for that, though. 
what weapon?
well, No?
of course not 😦
ok, maybe I'm not the best hades player of all times after all
I did at one point
crits good,
more reliable crits, more good
Pretty much every one except for a few aspects and gun
Yeah, that's me.
wut
Too easy imo
well
I don't think Hunters Mark is bad, it's just not the all-amazing thing
@cloud lichen what's your high heat PB?
I don't think anyone's called it that.
It's just the one thing you want from her when you have crits.
And potentially Heart Rend.
Shoot which one is Heart Rend
Ah
So crits do 4.5x damage instead of 3x.
stronk
Which is either amazing or barely does anything at all depending on your build.
Deadly Strike + Heartbreak Flourish + Heart Rend on Hestia?

Heartbreak Strike + Deadly Flourish + Heart Rend on Hestia?

😦
Still does less damage than other options. 
But Chill is nice.
I wish her boons had any way to skill with anything but her own boons.
Oh yeah I never said it was good
You can't even pom any of her boons that you'd want to pom.
Except for Crystal Beam stuff.
Frost Strike poms are sad, and Frost Flourish poms are even worse.
Yeah
big sadge
she's just not hungry i guess
Yeah I think it's pretty good to set down
it's like a blade rift but really big and not sharp at all
Not as good as Poseidon or Aphrodite Call tho
Pretty much
Blast.
Snow Burst poms are alright for like the first two levels... but you'd rather pom your Cast in Cast builds, anyway.
Frozen Touch can be pommed, of all things.
pomming that is not a good idea :D
do you build towards frozen touch in revenge builds? do "revenge builds" have any meta
I will say about Demeter though, is that her Legendary is stupidly good
If they have any meta, it doesn't include Frost Touch.
idk how good it is, but its so cool to look at
well ive never had it other than in the hades fight so i cant comment on that
Seeing Theseus die in various ways, Dem's Legendary being one, always brings me seratonin
I'm normal I swear
if you say so
The best way is to use Aphrodite's Aid on 1 of them after hearing them talk about their unbreakable bond lol
Ikr
Winter Harvest is about as good as a 5% Pressure Points in a build that doesn't have crit chance yet.
I think there should be DLC where Asterius is fed up with Theseus's crap and just goes to the House of Hades
That makes no sense lore-wise.
Asterius wouldn't get to be in Elysium without King Theseus.
I wished that I could eventually fight the Olympian gods when I first played the game
Yeah
gods feeling betrayed after knowing the truth and all of that
Yeah
boonless fighting gods like pantheon in HK
I actually thought that would happen at the beginning after I beat Hades for the first time
Are you two siths? 
same bro, same
zag was always searching for his mother, not trying to get to olympus 🤔
this is established fairly early on
Isn't that what the gods thought?
How does that take away from what was suggested tho
Wdym? He's trying to escape to be with Lady Aphrodite.
The whole "bring mom back" thing is cover.
And be her little pogchamp and all that
Zag has poor taste 
aight see y'all
facts
Do you want to be blocked? That's how you get blocked. 
byeee
pp Fluffy
Nyaanyaa Mewmew is typing
scurry when that happens
No fear
fear is for the weak
Then why are y'all always so afraid of me when I type? 👸🏽
I started playing Hades and now 99% of the time I'm thinking "I wish I was playing Hades"
So, why aren't you playing Hades?
Perfectly normal reaction
the paragraph scares me

Do you mean you wish you were Hades?
TheNoxiousGamer — Today at 9:48 AM
fear is for the weak
I'm not 
LOL
Woman.
Writing woman in all caps has some serious patriarchy vibes. 
Nyaanyaa isn't scary, just a perfectly respectable Hades player and high priestess of Aphrodite
of course

I swore I read Nyaanyaa's pronouns and it was he/him. Well, I'm sorry
reading is hard, I know


oof
well! we have pronoun roles for a reason :3c
This you?
this you bruh?
No, sadly not
I not woman
I man 😦
you gonna find another one arent you?
I'd rather we didn't and tried our very best to stay on topic to the channel
yeah!
Exactly.
I died to EM4 twice in a row
RIP
Literally.
But also, keep at it! It's a tough fight
me, laughs in EM3
At least the music was good.
yep
✨
You have the gamers blessing
Now go, gamer
Fluffy Bun — Today at 9:47 AM
Zag has poor taste
Fluffy Bun — Today at 9:54 AM
I died to EM4 twice in a row
I like this plot.
lmao
Nyaanyaa hasn't quoted me yet. This is a good result
Looks like she got exactly the result she wanted.

Um
Just get Aphro Call and make hades run around for like 3 seconds it's so easy
Why not 5? And then immediately charm him again with Smoldering Air?

Yes
sadly didn't get zeus
You'll need 15s Charm duration on Aphrodite's Aid for that.
What if, all the builds you can think of are weird, but you don't realize it?

Blood and darkness
It was very effective
Fluffy what weapon are you using
not playing currently
but I can use all of it
All you need for EM4 are boons from Lady Aphrodite.
I did it once, feels good
Me who beat it with Athena, Ares, Poseidon and Arty 😳
I tried to lower the call cooldown as much as I can and almost became immortal in Hades fight
4 gods just to try to get even close to what Lady Aphrodite can do all by herself.

prob blew him 30 kisses

A true Aphrodite simp
*High Priestess
When will they ever learn. 
never
that's the answer

if you know you're making a mistake, is it even a mistake?
It's an experiment!
The results are already in, you just haven't noticed yet. 
good night
good night now
Good morning
Finally did 32 heat on all weapons woot woot
Does anyone else have a comfort weapon?
Like the weapon you always comeback to for fun after getting a new speed PB or heat PB
Idk
zeus best girl
Guys guys
Hades is clearly the best girl
I mean
His name is literally the title of the game
Gonna say it right now tho, zeus builds are the most fun in the game
in my opinion
there are just so many good boons that zeus cores scale with
basically
at some point you just sneeze and a hundred lightning bolts come out
IT'S SO FUN
eris good
Start off with any zeus core
BOOM jolted
BOOM double strike
BOOM splitting bolt
you just can't lose
BOP sea storm
the one time i was doing zeus and my main lightning source was the lightning rod duo
for a while i thought lightning rod was OP but no, I had a heroic level 6 double strike lmao
stronk
"lightning never strikes the same spot twice" somehow i feel like this saying is uncommon in the underworld
I kinda wanna steal meg's whip
Lightning Rod is still really really good, though.
I really like the zeus Poseidon boon
The best boons for me are Aphrodite and Dionysus
R O D
R O D only
Lady Aphrodite's boons are indeed the best boons.
hi guys, im new
%=good
hiiiii
Hi new I'm potato
welcome
Hi new.
just quick question, why are aphrodite boons the best boons?
they got high % dmg
One of the top Hades players made a boon tier list, and she put all of Lady Aphrodite's boons in top tier.
Because they're so good.
Her call too?
aphrodite is really good tbh
Her call isn't the worst but not the best either
i mean, her damage boost is biggest
yeah
I really like athena's call
personally i would put it as worst call
unfair at max gauge
me too, mostly bc you can attack during it
Zeus' Aid and Aphrodite's Aid are legitimately the best Calls in the game.
mhm
Athena's call actually helped me got through the first finished run
niceu
um guys i tried using artemis attack boost
SWORE
just for a test, and it worked really well unironicaly
@stable glen how do you manage doing that so often. 
i took half of bull's health in 15 seconds (which i hope is a lot)
Don't ask
If you make a swore in gaming week
How good is artemis call?
R O D is actually a sleeper boon
ikr
pretty OK?
Arty call has good damage but it needs full call
i cant wait to be experienced enough to join these discusions
yeah yeah
just join
by "join" i rather mean... i dunno understand more
i know i can talk with you but the thing is all that knowledge and stuff
They all don't understand much more than you do, either.

thanks
What makes aphro's call so good tho
yes high heat players type stuff without knowing anything
like me
i dont like it much honestly
and is also useful in rooms where you cant charge up to greater
main reason i dont like it is because of charm durability
durability ?
Duration.
I usually end up killing the charmed enemy by accident
Aphros call plus hermes epic or rare auto god meter is so good tho
Everyone loves zagreus
Best burst damage, easy access to Smoldering Air, and Charm immediately neutralizes any threat. You can virtually perma-Charm Hades if you build god gauge fast enough and have some levels in the Call.
Pair with dio buffs, sexy sexy party
ye
hades?
Oof
you can charm bosses or did i misunderstand?
Oh
Correct. You can charm bosses.
Spooler aloot
that sounds much better now
1/3rd duration because they have resistance.
All spoilers are allowed in this channel
And you can make King Theseus and Asterius fight each other. 👸🏽
That is a good time
i think there wont be many in #h1-for-new-players
Wassup
heyy
hi seraph
Flyin back home today 🛫
wish you a nice trip
Correct. If you're concerned about spoilers, #h1-for-new-players is mostly spoiler-free.
have fun flying back
I wanna see if I can make this work at 50
what r u gonna do on the flight back
definitely possible if u get lucky :)
Watch disney or marvel stuff cuz thats the only time I watch them
Did you know that @vast junco didn't know that Sturdy gives 30% damage resistance?

until i read the description
I didn't know either
Nyaanyaa can I get smoldering w just zeus attack and aphro call
read all the things
i always assumed sturdy meant super armour
This will be very funny when Tailesque sees the ping.
mhm
i read the first part but not the second :p
Good stuff
Hence why their Calls are easily the best.
Rn only thing thats rlly annoying is bosses at 50, I've practiced enough in normal chambers
yea aphro attack and zeus call is sexy too
Bull and super dad are very unforgiving
Yeah, that's like most of my builds lol.
Turns out easy access to broken boons is gud.
Even if I beat the heroes I lose my athena dd sadge
Did you make a practice save for EM3?
no

Em3 is something you just get used to
That will help a lot if you do that.
Its not just em3 lol
it's not really a difficult fight, but can be a bit unpredicatbale
em4 on the other hand
Its heat 50 em4
Ah right
Bull becomes god
Yeah cool cool
EM3 != EM3 at 50 Heat.
good luck
lol
tbf EM3 at 50 heat isnt as bad as it sounds since most of the modifiers dont directly affect combat :p

:p
Things that weaken your build are going to make the fight harder
why am i still awake ;-;
oh wait didn't see the :p
nyaanyaa says to practice boss fights with a weak build anyway haha
s a m e

;-; indeeeeeeeeeeed
poggies
Might be best to direct some of this to #h1-high-heat-strategies. We have that to not intimidate newer players who come to #h1-discussion and the other channels, after all.
go to sleep oof
just get the hammer hammer hammer
Flurry resets for 3 hours*
sleep cring
see thats where u wrong
my flurry luck is pretty amazing
one day i got like 6-9 times
i didnt complete a single run that day
The other day out of 23 runs I only got flurry twice
my pain is getting dusa'd Sadge
Literally ruined my morning lol
can we stop dusaing my pain
i cant help but notice ur name doesnt have anything to do with banana spear
dusa is the best emote here
can we actually just not ;-;
i use it for everything
There
We are such peak humour 
yes
humor is so peaked rn
Brad Pitt.
Gen Z
Brad Pitt.
Brad Pitt.
Eric Bana.
Eric Banana.
Brad Pitt with his spear, Varatha.
shed
Eric Bananananannanananannanananana
i like pizza
i said i like it
Brad Pitt lieks pizza
brad pitt with his "friend", patroclus. they were roommates :)
^
Together
"banana spear"
what will they do
to play the board game!
they do hoard vases huh?
to give you hope of your run and then you get 3 sacked and dont get to bring the touch of Styx into the Hades fight!!111111!!!!!!!!11111!!!!!11111111111!!!!
na
Hour glass moment
4 sack is the worst
No its not
three duo boons offered using gods pride
flurry who
Stop it
imagine getting the right hammer
Imagine getting the right anything
Imagine needing to get anything. 
thats good wisdom
have u really never tried it
I'll go do that
Just seed it bro not that hard bro
bro moment
just seed it while not seeding it b r o
B R U H
bruh momento
gluttony
Lust
wrath
Wrath* 
i dunno
Lol
go check maybe?

And then explosive shot
It wasn't fast by any means
But you know what was?
The enemy
Flying from one end to another
Did my first 40 heat run
8 Athena boons and none of them were divine dash or an extra DD
But hestia doesn’t care
Doesn't go well with twin shot tho? I was playing zag bow
you should still be in range I think
just got so excited bc im at the science museum in paris n there’s a video game section n hades is there????
Cool
u ever just try to eat ur controller
all the time
I agree I agree
so edible
oh sins, i thought it was the 4 horsemen.
in that case SloTh
g r e e d
GIVE ME THE FLURRIES
FLURRY FLURRY FLURRY FLURRY
Horsemen are conquest/pestilence, plague, war, death
Sins are greed lust wrath glutton envy sloth pride
what about
bojack horseman
its conquest, plague/pestilence, war and death lol
No

pestilence and plague are the same thing lmfao
No
Nah
then who is the coolest 👀
Whenever 4 horsemen is used in anything its always more interesting to see how the others are incorporated bc they are more specific ways of suffering while death is something that is used everywhere, not just in the 4 horsemen context
tru
Eris rail do I want triple bomb or delta chamber
Lightning strike btw
I legit have no idea which to take
Delta Chamber gives your Dash-Strikes i-frames.
I took Delta Chamber lol
yea I don't like it either
it's not as fast as just triple bomb
but it was fun with athena special
Parry this, you filthy casual
hi
Does Lightning strike trigger twice with ricochet fire?
Even if it does, I assume Cluster bomb is better anyway
i thought i saw that pfp from somewhere XD
probably
ricochet is more for hestia
Yeah ik

Back to the on-topic mines!
Forced Overtime: added foe-specific limitations in cases where this was particularly unfair...



