Hmm, I'm so confused as to why Lernie is the easiest of the bosses to beat
#h1-discussion
obtuse lark
if i had to make a difficulty top:
megaera < alecto < tisiphone < lernie < charon < hades < theseus & asterius.
brisk trail
This is easiest-to-hardest?
Tisiphone < Lernie with regular distribution < Meg < Alecto < Charon < Blue Lernie with multiple blue heads < Heroes < Hades
Maybe swap the Heroes with Charon.
signal aspen
Meg < tis < Alecto < lernie < bull man and Theseus < charon < hades imo
I used to have a hard time with charon but now I don't anymore
unborn remnant
agree
signal aspen
And this is em for all the bosses
signal aspen
Just don't take him in tart
signal aspen
Ooohh, with EM?
Yeah
brisk trail
Blue Lernie is miserable on EM2.
signal aspen
I can't tell the difference between all the different lernie heads anymore
brisk trail
Blue head, with the Ram horns, spams the ground pound.
When he gets 2+ blue heads on phase 3...
steep elm
if i'm using rail and get a damage bonus to my dash-strike, what does that affect?
if i dash, do i get the damage bonus on just the first shot? or is it until i start moving/doing something else?
signal aspen
Your dash strikes deal more damage
signal aspen
if i dash, do i get the damage bonus on just the first shot? or is it until i st...
The first shot after you dash is a dash strike
steep elm
just the first shot? that sucks
signal aspen
Well any damage buff to the rail bullets suck unless you are using hestia
brisk trail
It is quite slow, but it's tuned just a little differently.
flat vapor
you can dash in-between attacks in the combo for more mobility
brisk trail
You can Dash between each hit of its combo to better position the homerun swing.
modern garnet
If you can deal with the slow hits, you end up dealing more damage in the long run
brisk trail
Combine that with stuff like Shadow Slash and crits and people have broken 6k damage on the swing before.
brisk trail
How on Earth did you get so many Epic boons without Privileged Access?
signal aspen
How on Earth did you get so many Epic boons without Privileged Access?
Idk
signal aspen
thanatos can appear in tartarus apparently?
Yes
tight saddle
well dang that's like a guaranteed win everything here dies so easy
signal aspen
How is it a guaranteed win?
tight saddle
well
tartarus enemies are incredibly easy to kill
and thanatos can only kill every few seconds
so if thanatos appears in tartarus
you can't lose to him
like i just eviscerated this man
signal aspen
Oh I thought you were talking about beating the final boss
tight saddle
nah
stuck sentinel
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/804829371713847296/861357146728955904/unknown.png than got demolished
keen lichen
who best accompanies ares, athena and artemis in a zag sword merciful end build?
i mean what 4th god should i try to get?
high island
is the sword's hidden aspect actually good?
It's one of the best for clearing anything 32 Heat and under. But it's def not a speedrun aspect.
keen lichen
It's one of the best for clearing anything 32 Heat and under. But it's def not a...
yeah it hits hard but seemed a bit slow
high island
Start Heartbreak Strike and build for HP and damage reduction/dodge, and you're allowed to make so many mistakes in your run, it's silly.
You can go into the Hades fight with like 3k eHP if you stay within Hallowed Ground with the right builds.
oak ibex
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/804829371713847296/861357146728955904/unk...
Zagreus be like: Than, I love you very much, but I have no choice but to utterly destroy you and your reputation as the God of Death
keen lichen
@high island what do you suggest as fourth god after ares/athena/artemis for zag sword. i just got the duo (merciful end)
high island
Whichever one you see first to fill your god pool, so that you see the gods you want more often.
Wouldn't bother forcing one with a god keepsake.
keen lichen
poseidon showed up
high island
Nothing in particular you want from him. Just grab like passive boons.
Hydraulic Might etc.
craggy tundra
Hmmm I haven't seen than in like 4 runs. Let me bribe you with nectar to be my friend again, please
keen lichen
lmao
modern garnet
Than gets busy sometimes
keen lichen
got the bonus on first 10 sec
i love artemis call
theseus down as soon as his 50% invuln ended
craggy tundra
Than gets busy, sure, but like....dude
keen lichen
Hmmm I haven't seen than in like 4 runs. Let me bribe you with nectar to be my f...
what have you not seen?
high island
Thanatos.
keen lichen
man. this merciful end thing is actually sick. first time doom on attack deflect on dodge.
every other run had both on different stuff.
personal record.
stuck sentinel
im kinda sad theres no achievement for doing 32 heat :( Statue is nice though
pallid hearth
I was so sad
manic bobcat
im kinda sad theres no achievement for doing 32 heat :( Statue is nice though
yeah
it feels a bit incomplete, somehow
but i understand why they do it
forest ruin
That reminds me when do statues get triggered? I thought the first one appears after 8 heat but Ive gone to 11 and nothing
bleak bobcat
god trying to romance meg takes way tooo long
manic bobcat
That reminds me when do statues get triggered? I thought the first one appears a...
you need to interact with the statue
craggy tundra
I don't want spoilers but....do you ever find out who hires skelly
cerulean ferry
|| You do ||
craggy tundra
I don't know if that's a 'yes' a 'no' or a name so I
shall not clock
*click, wow
high island
You can find out, yes.
high island
I remember there were a lot of discussions about that all the time in Early Access. Kind of something you can't experience anymore since people know now.
craggy tundra
I don't know anything about it
I wasn't particularly invested in this game when it came out, since it was a touch too expensive for my blood, and I'd never played a game in this style before
I wanted to finish transistor before I even touched hades
modern garnet
||I still can't believe skelly isn't short for skeleton||
river vigil
||I still can't believe skelly isn't short for skeleton||
|| I still cant believe hes actually schelimius or is it just another joke of his ||
stuck sentinel
I wanted to finish transistor before I even touched hades
Wait can i hear who you think it is?
I won't say whether you're right or wrong
wrong messege to reply too
stuck sentinel
Interesting
craggy tundra
Just.... maybe wanted him to get out
keen lichen
is zag aspect fists worthy of spending titan blood? the other two haven't piqued my interest
cerulean ferry
Yeah Zag fists are great. Especially with Hermes' keepsake
oak ibex
I thought you meant literally, not the aspect, and I was just imagining Zagreus going "you better be good at baseball because you're about to CATCH THESE HANDS-"
pliant sparrow
is zag aspect fists worthy of spending titan blood? the other two haven't piqued...
just play whatever you find fun lol, don't force yourself to upgrade aspects you don't like
lone kernel
Sooner or later you’ll just buy everything so no worries about prioritizing. If you have a weapon you really like, get it up and running
prisma rivet
Another spot of choice paralysis LOL
Which is better in the long run, Fated Authority or Fated Persuasion?
tender fjord
both are pretty good but i think most people prefer persuasion
prisma rivet
That's what I thought
native field
I just got this game and its super fun
When I encountered an enemy called "Brimstones" I was like "Ah brimstone!! Its going to shoot a laser!"
Then I was like "Wait, it might not follow tboi convention. Its probably just some floating stones"
2 seconds later: "AHH IT DOES SHOOT LASER"
lone kernel
Agree on persuasion - getting keys means you’ll get around 7 charges per run
unborn remnant
When I encountered an enemy called "Brimstones" I was like "Ah brimstone!! Its g...
is this a valorant reference
"prepare for hellfire"
might get back into hades soon
stuck sentinel
when you get the extra dd from chaos with stubborn
does it reset each room?
or work as normal dd
signal aspen
It's a normal dd
stuck sentinel
ah dang it
native field
is this a valorant reference
tboi: The binding of isaac
stuck sentinel
ok so i just had this idea
a set of playing cards themed for hades
hades is king, persophone queen, zagreus jack
ace of spades is like chaos
then the back just has like the eldest sigil with flowers surrounding it
ace of diamonds could have a small little lernie
i would buy it
unborn remnant
thatd be cool
manic bobcat
yeah
i would love hades themed merch that are more than just stuff you put on a shelf or a wall
playing cards is an excellent idea
native field
So, I am a big fan of artemis'es boons so far
polar root
Artemis best gurl
native field
I mean, no nonsense, just "Your weapon, beeger number of damage"
covert zenith
Well
I think most of the status effects are straightforward
polar root
Dayum
polar root
Well
I think most of the status effects are straightforward
They are
Just that i was dumb when i started out
covert zenith
Weak makes them do less damage
Doom inflicts damage after a wait
Knock away knocks away
Lightning Bolts chain between foes
Deflect...deflects
||Chill slows||
polar root
Doom damage too stronk
native field
Ehhh well I get the statuses and all but like
Whats the use of cast
Unless im missing something
polar root
Youll soon get an upgrade for it
native field
They do diffrent things?
covert zenith
Boons can change the cast
polar root
You know the mirror right?
native field
Tbh I kinda just spam the special attacks between the regular attacks
Ye ik dah mirror
No I havent unlocked the rest of iit yet I spent all my keys to get this dope spear
very dope spear
polar root
You get an upgrade called boiling blood
covert zenith
Mirror helps a ton, including o Cast
polar root
Which increases your dmg if the ememy has a cast in said ememy
polar root
Mirror helps a ton, including o Cast
I didnt even know the mirror was a thing till the final room of tartarus
I big dum
manic bobcat
Better than I did starting out
native field
I beat meg on my third try- though I did have the "hurt enemy to get back HP" thing that run and also made it all the way to spooky scary snake heads
grand river
i beat meg on my 3rd try aswell, i did reach her at my 2nd try
1st try i just got demolished by some wretches which were armored
languid wolf
i had help from the chaos thing
grand river
i had help from the chaos thing
i did not even meet chaos at that time i think
rapid creek
guys how does chain shot and triple shot work with aspect of hera
does my cast get tripled or just the center one
brisk trail
First enemy in the chain fires the Cast, fires from the center.
river vigil
im thinking of switching from kbm to controller, hows the "aim assist" for ranged weapon like bow and rail? since i want to finally try eris rail
prisma rivet
Yeah, it's only bothered me maybe 5 times in 43 attempts
rapid creek
i use bow most of the time and its great
river vigil
alright
grand river
i use bow most of the time and its great
bow and spear prolly one of the best in game
rapid creek
spear with triple dash atttack is lowkey broken
grand river
Unless you're using Guan Yu 😬
thats pretty good for me tbh
just gotta be
careful
and fast
well who am i kidding i completed the run with 0 heat only for the rewards
must be harder
river vigil
i used guan yu with athena attack and then got quick spin and long spin
boom deflect
native field
Ooohohoho
prisma rivet
Nice!
native field
I heard about these combined challenge boons
rapid creek
what keepsake do i use with nemesis sword?
i have no idea how to use any weapon other than bow and shield lmao
grand river
i used guan yu with athena attack and then got quick spin and long spin
perfecto
i did the same
stuck sentinel
what keepsake do i use with nemesis sword?
i think a pretty standard art attack aphro special works pretty well with it
crude surge
ME is also good
stuck sentinel
i saw on the subreddit someone did a full run with it using shackle and chaos boons for attack, not sure if tahts a good build tho
prisma rivet
ME is also good
When is ME not good haha
crude surge
It’s one of the better me weapons I guess lol
It doesn’t seem to good on the bow at least compared to other builds
grand river
i am so curious abt what the hidden aspect of the gun is but i wanna know it myself
crude surge
But I don’t know much about bow
grand river
tbh most my runs go with the flow
if i get a boon from a god i dont like
well
i iwll just go with it
better than nothin
crude surge
Well it takes space in your god pool instead of something good
grand river
Well it takes space in your god pool instead of something good
well i cant really do anythin if i dont have variety on me do i
that is why i choose smth of a support boon
not
like
modifies my gameplay
can i know the best aspect for the gun
if its hidden aspect just say hidden aspect idk it yet ._.
stuck sentinel
um
zagreus aspect is fine
eris is very good for fast runs everything
hestia is very good highly leveled up
||lucifer|| Is pretty good, though its a bit slow and the special isnt amazing
crude surge
Eris is good at everything
stuck sentinel
corrected
crude surge
Lucifer isn’t great and the special does big damage
Put a % boon on it and it goes big kaboom
stuck sentinel
specials kinda clunky i feel
crude surge
But other than that ain’t great
grand river
Eris is good at everything
i currently use the one which gives dmg boost by being in the explosion radius of the special
prisma rivet
It is :>
prisma rivet
LOL, how so?
stuck sentinel
bonus shields == bonus friends?
grand river
LOL, how so?
he give some lines in between of battles and i feel like i am fighting with someone
prisma rivet
Woah, really? I never knew
languid wolf
has anyone escaped on the first attempt
languid wolf
someone who's never played
crude surge
stuck sentinel
if there like a rogue lite vet
crude surge
I doubt anyone has their very first try
Even with other rougelike experience it’s still a different game
grand river
Woah, really? I never knew
u gotta use shield of chaos and sometimes when u finish a wave of enemies he will say stuff like. Destroyed, Ruination,. stuff like that
languid wolf
i like the shield because it's both melee and ranged
stuck sentinel
with how many people have played
there has to be at least one guy
who researched for days before buying game
on stuff
and played lots of roguelikes
so he could like say that he did that
idk maybe not
i think so though
grand river
i like the shield because it's both melee and ranged
block is over powered
i thought gorgons would look menacing and scary
here theres floating meat heads with petrifying balls
river vigil
what build should i got for ||arthur sword|| the classic heartrend? or full defence
stuck sentinel
depends
what heat level you doing?
i mean
just like
what do you want to do?
rapid creek
is flurry slash any good
stuck sentinel
yes
rapid creek
ah
rapid creek
double edge and dash nova
stuck sentinel
um
gimme a sec
i think double edge is good
and like
dash strikes are good on it
if dash nova is the one where you leap on special its bad
i would take double edge
river vigil
for nemesis take double edge
i mean i want to use the normal attack for art, but at the same time thing is so slow lmao
chonky dmg doe
river vigil
aight
river vigil
ah
crude surge
For Arthur you want Arty or Aphro attack
stuck sentinel
i think for dash take pretty much anything
you wont be dashing as much as other builds
just take like devine or tidal
limpid quartz
Tidal for damage, Divine for survivability
river vigil
also when is it to actually let go of the attack button for a power shot i still suck at timing it
lone kernel
I have the game@for switch, is it worth getting it for ps5 any idea how much of an upgrade it is thanks!
stable glen
Hey guys
quick question
I just unlocked lucifer aspect
would ares special be good?
1st level aspect btw, just trying to do the prophecy
calm pelican
wow charon is OP
crude surge
would ares special be good?
No, you want a % boon on the special like Arty or Aphro
stable glen
No, you want a % boon on the special like Arty or Aphro
Well, for level one, it only does 50 damage
I don't plan on uprgading it more just yet
is it still worth getting % on 50 damage?
Do you know how long it takes to inflict doom?
stuck sentinel
Um, not sure but if I remember correctly ares is pretty good on special for Lucifer
Because it kinda radiates around it in pulses
high island
Do you know how long it takes to inflict doom?
1.1 seconds.
stable glen
ty
oak ibex
i managed to learn good riddance on guitar
That's so cool! Maybe I should learn a piece on the viola
stable glen
i managed to learn good riddance on guitar
Nnice!
brisk trail
Guys, can I somehow roll back the save game two escape back?
stoic flame
not scientifically possible
high island
Maybe. #h1-tech-fixes tells you how to recover a save.
high island
not scientifically possible
The game makes backup saves, quite a few.
brisk trail
Ok, now I will read it
stoic flame
The game makes backup saves, quite a few.
its witch craft then
stable glen
yo guys
if I didn't beat 0 heat with a weapon, but I got some 0 heat bounties
what happens to the 0 heat bounties when I do 1 heat cuz it says new bounties for 1 heat
uncut dagger
I got my Dad Hades because of the Summer Sale
stable glen
nice
uncut dagger
hoping he likes it as much as I do
high island
what happens to the 0 heat bounties when I do 1 heat cuz it says new bounties fo...
They'll be available when you do 0 Heat.
stable glen
They'll be available when you do 0 Heat.
so I don't lose em but don't get em that run either?
the 1 heat run, i mean
high island
Right. You get the 1 Heat rewards.
If you do higher than 1 Heat, you'll also get the 1 Heat rewards.
Then after that, you gotta do 2+ for more bounties. But the 0 Heat will still be available until you get them, they're separate.
forest ruin
New build I just found
Well not really a build but something super helpful
Splitting Headache and Low Tolerance Trippy Strike and Pressure Points
Crit after crit after crit
Plus Heartbreak Flourish
Idk if its been found or not yet but yeah
high island
Once, but it's very good.
rapid forum
The choices are very good I just dk which to get
Explosive return, dashing flight, empowering flight
Running chaos shield with dio on special
Just because
I can benefit with empowering flight cause I got aphro on attack
Explosive it is
high island
Explosive, yeah.
forest ruin
"Face me yourself!" - Hades, while summoning a bunch of henchmen and exploding skulls in order to not face Zagreus himself
glass bane
How do I consistently beat Hades with each weapon
except shield, because I've got that down already
forest ruin
How do I consistently beat Hades with each weapon
which weapon is troubling
forest ruin
prob because it is
forest ruin
Idk what its called but find the daedalus hammer that shortens the charge time
and another than makes power shot easier
Bow is a waiting game weapon. You just keep ur distance, take aim, and fire
On quick moving enemies/bosses, dash strike em to death
glass bane
Waiting Game weapons are not my thing
forest ruin
try to get in power shots if u can
glass bane
Because damn, I love fists and shield
forest ruin
Waiting Game weapons are not my thing
same here tbh this is just what I do
Right? I wanna run up and punch someone
glass bane
I want to absolutely go caveman on the enemies
forest ruin
But bow gets darker thirst a lot
forest ruin
i use hera tbh
river vigil
man i cant use bow with a controller lmao
forest ruin
if I have a cast boon its a good way to take stronger shots
so its no longer a waiting game
river vigil
the rest of the weapons are pretty easy, and the rail is easy cus the aim assist
but man bow with a controller feels janky
forest ruin
Its so damn tedious
river vigil
ik but im used to aiming manually with my mouse
forest ruin
thats what I do but dash strike can be weak if not booned up
glass bane
I am just tempted to go cast build on bow
forest ruin
i know builds are smart but I try to avoid them
river vigil
and then with controller i cant dash to other directions, idk if its just my settings or im just bad
brisk trail
everything is weak if it doesn't have boons on?
forest ruin
I like having random combos
forest ruin
everything is weak if it doesn't have boons on?
weaker than other damage is what I meant
eg cast special attack
river vigil
I am just tempted to go cast build on bow
just do a cast build on spear or sword
glass bane
just do a cast build on spear or sword
Spear sure, but I just learned how broken Artemis Nemesis sword can be
river vigil
bow dmg is amazing
true
forest ruin
Punishing sweep amazing
river vigil
wait nvm i figured out the bow on controller, so i just need to aim to an enemy first then dash away and the aim lock should still be there
forest ruin
fr? that doesnt work for me
Aim assist turns into a broken gps "rerouting rerouting"
brisk trail
🤔 you usually dash out of range before you shoot
river vigil
fr? that doesnt work for me
idk seems to work eveyr now and then lmao, im sticking with kbm for bow
feels nicer idk why
forest ruin
Idk why but its so fun hitting doomstones with doom or hangover and watch them die in the air
brisk trail
you can dash cancel your attack after shooting it prob makes it look like that
forest ruin
that might just be me tho
glass bane
How do I farm titan blood faster
crisp fractal
how do I not constantly die with guan yu
forest ruin
Thats a question I cannot answer
I survived my guan yu run by the skin of my teeth and that aspect is now a dust collector
all dds and the tooth expended and at like 12 hp or something
brisk trail
is it maxed? thick skin is gonna be important. you can keep your distance with a special build well
crisp fractal
I used all 3 death defiance on the champions because asterius one shot me each time
hollow hawk
Yeah you dont wanna use the base attack combo with guan yu, its way too slow
Use dash strikes and the special
the spin is decent too, if you get some spin hammers
brisk trail
if you get spin hammers the spin starts to shred enemies
crisp fractal
is it maxed? thick skin is gonna be important. you can keep your distance with a...
it's level 1 because I don't like it and I spent my blood on other aspects
brisk trail
well its pretty terrible on lv1
forest ruin
am I the only one who could never beat meg, and as soon as I finally did she was super easy to defeat?
brisk trail
the health penalty is large
forest ruin
it's level 1 because I don't like it and I spent my blood on other aspects
get it to at least level 2
otherwise its super hard to win
hollow hawk
lvl 5 or nothing on guan yu imo
forest ruin
ur entitled to ur opinion
rapid forum
You can clear with lvl 1 guan yu, but you'd clench your butt the whole way
forest ruin
Im fine with it sitting at lv2 and never being used again unless a new prophecy with it is added
rapid forum
crisp fractal
I'm at styx I'm probably just gonna get to hades to get the prophecy and leave it as a dust collector
hollow hawk
i feel like a lot of newer players hate guan yu for the wrong reasons
forest ruin
holding to dash makes dash strikes a breeze and main is good to leave foes to die
hollow hawk
You play it at lvl 1 -> you dont like it -> you never upgrade it/play it again, and think its terrible
forest ruin
i feel like a lot of newer players hate guan yu for the wrong reasons
newer players take more damage by nature so ofc they want more health which gy does the opposite
hollow hawk
Guan yu is much more safe once you know how to play it
forest ruin
the sole good thing about guan yu was the knockoff blade rift the special makes
hollow hawk
conpared to other spear aspects
river vigil
guan yu is good once you know how to utilize the spin correctly
hollow hawk
the sole good thing about guan yu was the knockoff blade rift the special makes
not really, the special is pretty good
crisp fractal
You play it at lvl 1 -> you dont like it -> you never upgrade it/play it again, ...
I'll upgrade it eventually, for now I wanna focus more on lucifer and some of my favourite aspects since those are the ones I play the most
forest ruin
that is the special
hollow hawk
the spin is fine, but without any hammers its not as good
forest ruin
thats why I said knock off lol
rapid forum
I just did a guan yu with charged skewer and heart rend
forest ruin
Its a spinning damage dealer
hollow hawk
I'll upgrade it eventually, for now I wanna focus more on lucifer and some of my...
Yeah for sure, im not pointing to anyone here, play at your own pace
rapid forum
Dang 
river vigil
I just did a guan yu with charged skewer and heart rend
ouh charged skewer, should be fun
hollow hawk
thats why I said knock off lol
you said special, not spin
rapid forum
It was
forest ruin
thats cuz special is spin i thought
hollow hawk
no
forest ruin
k then my b
hollow hawk
it deals pretty good damage, and is amazing with charged skewer
It can basically one shot any enemy in the game with charged skewer and aphro special
rapid forum
I assume you can't get charged skewer and explosive launcher at the same time with guan yu?
Or you can't get explosive launcher with guan yu?
hollow hawk
it already has exploding launcher
rapid forum
Kek
rapid forum
What about second exploding launcher
river vigil
Or you can't get explosive launcher with guan yu?
its pretty much alr an exploding launcher
hollow hawk
chonk
brisk trail
gy cant get exploding
forest ruin
is there an aspect of sword yall reccomend?
hollow hawk
poseidon
rapid forum
Zag
hollow hawk
And nemesis
glass bane
Nemesis
brisk trail
arthur
hollow hawk
poseidon is fun to play around with
rapid forum
Basically every sword
hollow hawk
zag is meh
rapid forum
Play everything
forest ruin
fair enuff
rapid forum
Gotta go fesss
forest ruin
k byee
glass bane
I'm having trouble trying to unlock Beowulf shield
hollow hawk
In poseidon sword you can basically invest 1 titan blood in it and still have it be good
glass bane
Chaos won't say the thing
hollow hawk
Because its main bonus is unlocked when you get the aspect
further upgrades just get you more cast damage
hollow hawk
Chaos won't say the thing
Have you tried asking them nicely
forest ruin
Lmao
"Hell Mr. Chaos sir. I have entered your void(after paying the appropriate HP deduction compensation) to ask you to TALK TO ME FOR ONCE IM LONELY"
"MEG TOOK THE KIDS AND THAN TOOK THE HOUSE I NEED A FRIEND"
And thus was the story of how Chaos filed a restraining order on the Prince of the Underworld.
hollow hawk
glass bane
mr. Chaos sir please give me the Bee Wolf shield pls
forest ruin
i know I shouldnt dump my resources into the titles
but they look so cool and I keep burning my darkness on them 😔
forest ruin
i want the chaos theme but im too much of an impulse buyer
I spend the gems on the smaller things
high island
It's Master Chaos, not Mister. 
rapid forum
It's *Master* Chaos, not *Mister*. <:courte5DusaBond:851568355453566976>
Why do you think zag got the restraining order?
forest ruin
Exactlyyyy
uncut dagger
damn I didn't know Zag misgendered the beginning of life
forest ruin
Chaos said "Did you just assume my gender-"
uncut dagger
now THAT would be the best dialogue in the game
forest ruin
lmaoo
high island
No.
forest ruin
in the echoing voice of chaos "Zagreus....did you just assume my gender?"
glass bane
How do I get the dialogue from Chaos
high island
Lady Aphrodite's dialogues are the best dialogues in the game.
glass bane
that unlock beowulf
high island
How do I get the dialogue from Chaos
Talk to them.
forest ruin
Aphrodite's being a pain in the ass
uncut dagger
"Son of Hades, how dare you assume my gender"
glass bane
multiple times?
forest ruin
Ive forged bonds with Dusa Than and Meg
glass bane
damn
high island
uncut dagger
don't you worry, I didn't think that 
forest ruin
anyways its 2am i should prob sleep :/
high island
It's not that hard to be respectful to all the characters and not offend anyone who likes them.
uncut dagger
anyways its 2am i should prob sleep :/
PST Gang?
forest ruin
PST gang 😎
uncut dagger
hyuck yeah B)
forest ruin
anyways gnight
uncut dagger
It's not that hard to be respectful to all the characters and not offend anyone ...
I was joking, to be clear
river vigil
aphro attack will always be good
polar root
The one time I use eris
i get ricochet shot
when i use hestia
ricochet has left the chat
dusky wedge
How many boons I have to get from X god in order to get the “Disciple of X” victory screen?
rapid forum
That one time I use zag rail
delta chamber enters the chat
Second hammer
delta chamber begs for your financial support
polar root
ah yes
glass bane
Man I have a great cast build I think
polar root
what is it?
glass bane
Slicing Shot, Engulfing Vortex, Hunting Blades, Fully Loaded, Stygian Soul
polar root
stygian soul?
glass bane
The Mirror Boon that's one charge but recharges
glass bane
Oh, support fire as well
polar root
couldnt you
glass bane
The blades last long enough that I can keep continuous uptime
rapid creek
That's so cool! Maybe I should learn a piece on the viola
yas
river vigil
haha cast build at its finest
rapid creek
what casts are good for hera bow
polar root
what casts are good for hera bow
probably aphro cast or athena cast
polar root
I just dumped the casts on him and ran
did you beat it with beowulf?
glass bane
I was tryna unlock the Beowulf shield actually
I was trying to unlock Beowulf
I didnt have it yet
polar root
beowulf is hard to use i succ
glass bane
Mr. Chaos keeps commenting on anything but my shield
polar root
Mr. Chaos keeps commenting on anything but my shield
isnt it master?
idk
beowulf meh for me
rapid creek
probably aphro cast or athena cast
does the weak from the aphro cast stack?
like if i load 3 into one
polar root
does the weak from the aphro cast stack?
not sure about that one but this does mad damage
rapid creek
interesting
polar root
athena cast is pretty good as well but i havent played with it much
high island
@rapid creek I wrote some notes for an optimal Hera build here. #h1-discussion message
rapid creek
ah thanks!
glass bane
what's a good consistent build for each weapon except shield
I know that Artemis is busted on Nemesis, there's sword
Just need a good setup for Spear, bow, fists, and gun
rapid creek
for bow just go get chiron bow and the extra 4 shots ezclap the whole run
didnt get the 4 shots? just restart and blame rng
rapid forum
Concentrated volley is also viable with chiron
high island
Frost Flourish DPS is bad, though.
high island
DPS is still bad with Arctic Blast.
crisp fractal
what's generally better, Mort or Battie?
crisp fractal
battie is easier to use but both r good
oh really? I personally find aiming mort easier
since its hitbox is huge
brisk trail
I suppose
battie goes off instantly and tracks on the nearest enemy
with mort you often have enemies go out of the circle
crisp fractal
I didn't know it tracked that changes things
I'll try battie out more and then I'll see which one I like more
unreal loom
Ok weird pitch but
Do you think hypnos cant dream?
Because he is sleep itself
So can he dream?
brisk trail
he sleeps so I'd think so 😄
glass bane
Let's say I want to speed through the heat gauge to farm titan blood
brisk trail
isnt there also a seperate diety for dreans
glass bane
Is Dark Foresight good for blood farming?
glass bane
alrighty
crisp fractal
dark foresight lowers the chance of the more common drops so yeah you get more overpowered quickly
glass bane
the max hammers you can get normally is 2 right
brisk trail
yes
crisp fractal
yes unless you take the anvil
old geode
hey guys im thinking of getting hades on switch but im worried im not gonna be able to play cuz of a really bad drift on the right stick
what role does that stick play in game and is there a way of changing its sensitivity?
i played bastion and that problem made me constantly shield which was not fun
molten parrot
idk if you can change the controls on switch, but on PC the only thing you use the right stick for is pressing it for a certain ability. Shouldn't be affected by drift
gray dust
what role does that stick play in game and is there a way of changing its sensit...
Not that much, it doesn't affect the fighting at all, but choosing boons or using the menus is kind of annoying
At least that's how it is for me
wooden geode
Has anyone played anything else since hades that sucked you in as much? I keep coming back here
devout karma
i was so close
to beating hades
my second attempt on him
then he suddenly pulls out a second phase
noo
molten parrot
Has anyone played anything else since hades that sucked you in as much? I keep c...
monster hunter 
tho i can't say it's been since hades
glass salmon
Has anyone noticed that if you use a ds4 controller the controller color changes depending on which boon you pick?
molten parrot
huh really? That's cool!
glass salmon
Has anyone played anything else since hades that sucked you in as much? I keep c...
A campaign? Nah, I do want another one tho
glass salmon
huh really? That's cool!
Fr
I usually play on a dual sense controller so I didn't know till now
crisp fractal
artemis please just say the line I need to complete your favour I've accepted an absurd ammount of boons from here and she still hasn't given me what I need
devout karma
when am i able to upgrade my weps? i just unlocked all of them
do i need to do another escape attempt
void vigil
Yes
crisp fractal
would it be a viable strategy to use her keepsake and give up every time she doesn't give me the line I'm looking for?
void vigil
only the first boom you pick up from a god will make them say a line, and if you pick up other boons before it they might comment on other gods you picked up before, so when trying to get artemis favor it’s best to use her keepsake if you don’t already
crisp fractal
o h
void vigil
don’t give up though, that will send you to before the run happens. You can die early instead
crisp fractal
kk I'll try that
oh and another question on favours, on the wiki it states that I have to listen to athena's 3 lines regarding zag not being able to escape, what if I already heard them before getting her to the locked heart? do I just talk to her again to get the thing
void vigil
These lines play after successful escapes. So you have to escape and then equip athena keepsake to hear the line, three times
glass bane
Bruh moment
Persephone told me to stay away
as if that'll stop me from farming titan blood
crisp fractal
based
glass bane
And suddenly everyone I'm trying to romance now requires ambrosia
and it's not even 1 per anymore
it increases
prisma rivet
Uh oh
glass bane
time to go beat up Elysium for it again
crisp fractal
wait what since when
prisma rivet
it increases
Realizes I've been trading Ambrosia for Titan Blood a lot recently 👀
crisp fractal
I romanced than I don't remember his cost being over 1 ambrosia each time
cerulean ferry
They're probably talking about Dusa
crisp fractal
oh
glass bane
They're probably talking about Dusa
how'd you know
void vigil
It only increases for dusa
cerulean ferry
Yeah
glass bane
It only increases for dusa
wait really
Well still, it's fun beating up Theseus for his Ambrosia
crisp fractal
lmao
prisma rivet
It only increases for dusa
Oh, okay. Good. Now c'mere Thanatos ;>
river vigil
Bruh
void vigil
I still wouldn’t trade too much ambrosia for titan blood, you need 151 of it to max out every ambrosia related thing
prisma rivet
Uh oh
glass bane
60 for 10 heat every weapon
void vigil
194 from every weapon and every prophecy according to the wiki
river vigil
Should i go for aprho attack or art attack on nemesis? Cus i feel like im not maximizing my damage enough using art's attack
void vigil
Bounties only go up to 20, plus 1 for zero heat
obtuse lark
day 4 of trying to get artemis bond.
so far i only got 1 callisto message.
river vigil
Max is 20 heat doe so look out for that, after 20 heat rewards stop
glass bane
Bounties only go up to 20, plus 1 for zero heat
what
prisma rivet
Should i go for aprho attack or art attack on nemesis? Cus i feel like im not ma...
Well, you'd be getting that crit chance even higher if you did. But Aphro does get that base damage up
glass bane
how am I supposed to get titan blood then?
obtuse lark
how am I supposed to get titan blood then?
buy it from charon and broker.
stuck sentinel
Trade up
glass bane
isnt it like 46
river vigil
how am I supposed to get titan blood then?
Charon or just trade
stuck sentinel
You get infinite gems
glass bane
46 per non zag weapon aspect
stuck sentinel
Trade with broker
river vigil
day 4 of trying to get artemis bond.
so far i only got 1 callisto message.
Oh you're at the mercy of rng-temis at this point
glass salmon
Am I the only one who finds the first phase of hades to be the harder one?
stuck sentinel
Am I the only one who finds the first phase of hades to be the harder one?
Yeah I would agree with that
stuck sentinel
242
river vigil
Am I the only one who finds the first phase of hades to be the harder one?
Kinda since he summons wretches and at high heat its kinda annoying
obtuse lark
Oh you're at the mercy of rng-temis at this point
fun part is:
i have like 4 gods with locked hearts and NONE of them give me the dialogue i need.
stuck sentinel
Cause 0 heat
obtuse lark
Am I the only one who finds the first phase of hades to be the harder one?
same here.
glass bane
is 242 enough?
river vigil
fun part is:
i have like 4 gods with locked hearts and NONE of them give me the ...
Hey ive been wanting to get Aphrodite and what do i get for 4 days? Nothing
stuck sentinel
Em4 hades is a pain 1 st stage. He just keeps spinning
river vigil
Em4 hades is a pain 1 st stage. He just keeps spinning
Oh yes
glass salmon
Kinda since he summons wretches and at high heat its kinda annoying
Yeah and the Lazers in the second phase are easily avoidable + easy damage if you're feeling brave
obtuse lark
Hey ive been wanting to get Aphrodite and what do i get for 4 days? Nothing
i need ares, artemis, aphrodite and somebody else, i forgot, probably poseidon.
void vigil
You get 295 blood from bosses and prophecies, and you need 326 for everything
stuck sentinel
Third stage is kind eh
glass salmon
Hey ive been wanting to get Aphrodite and what do i get for 4 days? Nothing
I just got her yesterday, she's so hard to get
I only need Hermès now
stuck sentinel
If your not used to it it’s really hard
devout karma
are we able to nectar up meg
glass bane
what build can I use for Talos fists
stuck sentinel
But if you just hang in the corner your usually fine
devout karma
and why does she appear so rarely in the lobby
stuck sentinel
what build can I use for Talos fists
Make a yo-yo build
obtuse lark
i have dionysis, athena and megaera bonds so far.
stuck sentinel
POS Special
glass bane
huh?
stuck sentinel
Poseidon special
obtuse lark
Make a yo-yo build
unfun imo.
void vigil
you have to beat Meg to see her in the lounge
devout karma
ive reached hades twice
which isnt much of an accomplishment
but ive definitely beaten meg
stuck sentinel
I mean talos isn’t that great tbh
glass bane
I mean talos isn’t that great tbh
Got nothing else so
stuck sentinel
It’s one of the somewhat fun things to do with it
void vigil
Beating her in a run is the only requirement for her to show up in the house as far as I’m aware
devout karma
guess im just getting unlucky because ive been able to gift her nectar only twice
stuck sentinel
Maybe aphro crush shot and magnet them over or something
devout karma
the other times shes either gone or speaking with somebody so im not able to gift her
glass bane
Zeus is good on gun, right?
stuck sentinel
Yes
devout karma
is zeus good on spear
void vigil
Yeah, in the beginning she will talk to others a lot
river vigil
Zeus is good on gun, right?
Yes
devout karma
doing my first spear run and zeuss stuff seems to be pretty good
stuck sentinel
is zeus good on spear
Usually yes
glass bane
what other gods pair well with Zeus?
obtuse lark
what other gods pair well with Zeus?
poseidon.
stuck sentinel
Poseidon
devout karma
got a duo bloon for every time i knockback to deal thunder
thinks its the duo poseidon and zeus
obtuse lark
my most used gods are aphodite, ares, artemis and athena.
all of them start with "a".
stuck sentinel
With Zeus you mainly just wanna see Zeus though. To get all his subsidiary boons
devout karma
by aphrodite almost has all of the stuff on the prophecy
and i dont even use her keepsake
i just constantly get her
obtuse lark
i got zeus legendary in tartarus once, i was using eris rail.
but i got lightning strike in styx...
devout karma
ares and aphrodite are for some reason my most common
river vigil
Man i hated the fact that i need to have dusa and than maxed out for aphro
stuck sentinel
Man i hated the fact that i need to have dusa and than maxed out for aphro
Could max out meg
river vigil
Wait you have to do all 3
I think so
river vigil
Only 2?
stuck sentinel
Not sure
river vigil
Yep
obtuse lark
i only have meg and dusa maxed out.
i don't like than so i never even gave nectar to him.
gonna take a while.
stuck sentinel
I haven’t given aphro nectar at all, she was the only one I didn’t make a bond with ||for epilogue||
river vigil
I haven’t given aphro nectar at all, she was the only one I didn’t make a bond w...
Wait dont you need all the gods for it
Or am i just dumh
obtuse lark
you need 6 (or 5).
cerulean ferry
It was 6 (Demeter to the lock counts as well)
river vigil
Oh thank god
obtuse lark
yes, it's 6.
river vigil
I thoughr i needed all
stuck sentinel
1 has to be Zeus
glass salmon
alright just got the 100%
stuck sentinel
haha
devout karma
would the sea storm bloon do damage to theseus and minotaur?
stoic flame
why wouldnt it
devout karma
since its based on knocking back an opponent to do damage
which as far as i know i cant do on bosses
also for spear is zeus or poseidon a better choice?
stuck sentinel
No it does
devout karma
good to know
stuck sentinel
It doesent have to knock back
It just has to normally knock back
So interestingly
Beowulf will summon lightning with attack
Even if not Poseidon on it
stuck sentinel
also for spear is zeus or poseidon a better choice?
I think Zeus
stuck sentinel
Which spear?
devout karma
base
stuck sentinel
Yeah Zeus
devout karma
need to finish this escape attempt before getting aspects
chose spear to get titan blood
stuck sentinel
Makes sense
devout karma
is lightning strike or double strike better
since i have the storm duo bloon i assume double strike?
stuck sentinel
Lighting strike is Zeus attack?
devout karma
nope
stuck sentinel
Yeah double strike
devout karma
bet
crisp fractal
can I cheese athena's favour by repeatedly dying at the start to force the dialogue from her?
crisp fractal
yeah I reset them all so I have no health increases or anything
stoic flame
you can turn stuff off?
crisp fractal
all I kept was the dashes
stuck sentinel
Reset mirror
stoic flame
bruh
stuck sentinel
And don’t spend anything you get back
stoic flame
🥴
stuck sentinel
i mean
crisp fractal
eh it does the same thing essentially
stoic flame
but arent they trying to cheese artemis dialogues
devout karma
i just got a poseidon bloon and from the options theres wave pounding, my question is does wave pounding make the storm duo bloon do more damage since its a knock away effect?
crisp fractal
I can get there faster
stuck sentinel
I dont think so, the storm duo just makes lightning activate
i dont think it adds more lightning
devout karma
wouldnt it add more damage to the lightning
void vigil
can I cheese athena's favour by repeatedly dying at the start to force the dialo...
athenas favor requires winning a run
stuck sentinel
i dont think so
devout karma
since the lightning is an effect from knocking away
stuck sentinel
i think the lightning damage is the same regardless of the kb damage
crisp fractal
athenas favor requires winning a run
oh ok well that was a waste of time
devout karma
damn
obtuse lark
what is my luck wtf...
2 legendary boons in a row, then 2 duo boons in a row.
crisp fractal
ill rush through
obtuse lark
what is my luck wtf...
2 legendary boons in a row, then 2 duo boons in a row.
i just entered elysium.
void vigil
just win a run and then equip her keepsake to get the dialogue, three times
obtuse lark
i got zeus legendary, then aphodite legendary, then dio + aphro duo, then dio + zeus duo.
i'm gonna try and get dio legendary then.
stoic flame
nice
glass bane
I finally got the awakening phrase for the Beewulf
cerulean ferry
Nice
devout karma
bosses can get jolted right?
cause if not ill get zeuss call instead
need sth against hades
devout karma
that means my duo bloon storm effect can stack with the jolt and probably do some good damage
neat
guess ill get that
no clue how i got this far with spear, buts its time for my third attempt on hades , with the hope ill beat him
devout karma
only issue is i have no clue on his second phase because i insta died once he entered it
but i got this
obtuse lark
oh my god finally! ares gave me the phrase! now i can get a bond!
devout karma
second phase time
got hit some very unfortunate stuff which unfortunately drained 2 of my 3 death defies
so im on 100 and 1 death defy
for full second phase
damnit
he shot out 2 skulls that i didnt see and died
got him below 50% tho
at least i have access to upgrades and i was able to beat theseus without death defies
glass salmon
i really hope supergiant is working on a new game
devout karma
oh no, i have to now choose aspects
if i choose an aspect should i focus on upgrading it or unlock others
glass salmon
which weapon/s do you like using?
devout karma
well
bow was my main used
but the spear is also kinda nice
didnt expect to like the spear since i equipped it only for titan blood
glass salmon
just upgrade an aspect you really like
stoic flame
its the best
mint coral
can you trigger ruthless reflex with lava?
stoic flame
i mean one of the best
frozen granite
is the spear weak?
devout karma
spear was doing some good damage against hades for me
stoic flame
I dont like it much but there are people who think its good
devout karma
i had flurry, and some zeus electric stuff
glass salmon
is the spear weak?
i don't personally like it but it's good if yk how to play it
devout karma
and it was doing mad damage
i think if i had an invincibility call i mightve managed to win against hades