ive never seen anyone simp for charon
#h1-discussion
brisk trail
half zephyr
aaaah, all this hades discussion today is making me wanna listen to The Unseen Ones
brisk trail
what is the lore
brisk trail
really?
half zephyr
who doesn't love charon
cerulean ferry
what is the lore
Saw him once and there it started lol
half zephyr
he's got a great sense of style
brisk trail
he cant talk tho
brisk trail
bro goes uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr and yall think its deep
cerulean ferry
What is there not to love about hgahhh
half zephyr
it's beautiful
it's poetry
he got all mah nectar on my hell mode file
and now I just have to talk with him enough
oh ye
brisk trail
i mean i simp over aqnother so i cant really complain
half zephyr
he's also got a sweet ride
brisk trail
true dat
cerulean ferry
|| He also hired Skelly so y'know ||
brisk trail
|| He also hired Skelly so y'know ||
YOU BASTARD
brisk trail
I KNOW
half zephyr
YOU LOOKED THAT'S ON YOU
half zephyr
brisk trail
til you can dash and do sword special at the same time
but its got a wakcy animation
ZAGREUS WHY DO YOU NOT BELIEVE IN BOULDY
spring silo
best aspects for each weapon ?
brisk trail
hera is good if you wanna make a cast build
spring silo
i hate cast
brisk trail
then you will like hera
glad leaf
yeah but think about it
cerulean ferry
Some people say Chiron is the best for bow but eh I like Hera
glad leaf
yeah but think about it
6 500 damange AOE Dionysus cast loaded into an arrow
+50% cast damage
+30% cast damage
that was my bulid once
build*
and i got hades to 2/3 health in like 1 or two shots
WITH A BOW
not to mention how its safer than a sword
glad leaf
arthur is safe
eh not really
its kinda hard to use during hades fight
bc of how slow it is
half zephyr
then you don't know how to use arthur yet
cerulean ferry
After you get used to the slowness of Arthur it gets really fun
glad leaf
then you don't know how to use arthur yet
that is probably true
i have 10 total clears
1 of which is with arthur
half zephyr
I've never once felt arthur being slow
glad leaf
5 of which are with hera
half zephyr
I'm slower with bow
glad leaf
and the other 4 are with nemesis
spring silo
arthur so good
half zephyr
then again, bow isn't for me 
but arthur is so much fun cuz you just destroy everything
cerulean ferry
Yeah, Arthur hits hard
half zephyr
have fun
besides that idk 
I'm not good at explaining build stuff
and my go to build is more of a play build then a serious build
glad leaf
im asking fore more info on movement and hits or whatever
like with nemesis & zag aspects the strat is to special > dash strike or something like that
but what is it for arthur
half zephyr
uhm
dash-strike dash-strike attack?
or smth like that
with a special to throw down the sigil when needed
Idk
I fight intuitively 
I don't really think too much about what to press when - I just do it
glad leaf
I fight intuitively <a:nyaShrug:643747914715496461>
I don't really think too mu...
well yeah obviously, but i was asking because i didn't have any intuition on it
since ive just been basically special > as much attacks in before i see an enemy try to hit me
which is usually 1 or 2
and i can get a load of damage in from it
since i save a bunch of time with the special transition
spring silo
i got guan yu how do i get arthur
signal aspen
Nyx
signal aspen
Time to talk to nyx
signal aspen
Nice
signal aspen
what
stoic flame
4 hrs of hades 💀
signal aspen
good job
opaque radish
Is there a way to get rocket bomb, cluster bomb, and triple bomb? through an anvil or something?
half zephyr
triple can't be combined with cluster
opaque radish
didnt think so--but that would be fun lol
opaque radish
thats why I wish there was access to a debug mode--combine whatever boons you want in a crazy build lol
half zephyr
¯_(ツ)_/¯
maybe there's something in the modding server
it's pinned in #self-promotion
opaque radish
ty
opaque radish
<@&456908176877551658> need a mod please, important
void vigil
what is it?
opaque radish
DM please
alpine stratus
whats up?
minor pecan
delicate ember
4 hrs of hades 💀
I played 8 hours yesterday don’t complain
rich acorn
I haven’t gotten the chance to play Hades a lot lately but I will soon and can’t wait to start working on getting that sweet 100% completion
cloud orbit
Nani
buoyant merlin
I'm really surprised that for the rail there was no button combination to automatically shoot the rocket where you were standing, would've been really nice for the aspect that gives you more damage after steping into it
chilly sonnet
I have never used the rocket
Except for a prophecy
Because I use Eris and afaik you can’t hit yourself with the rocket
buoyant merlin
Maybe I could've phrased it better, I meant the standard missle attack that the rail starts with, not the missle that shoots forward that you can get from a Day Dull Less hammer
modern garnet
On mkb it's pretty trivial to hit yourself with the special
I dunno how hard it is on controller
buoyant merlin
I mean I can do it, it's just with the aim assist it kind of does what it wants.
brisk trail
Eris does work with the Rocket.
You need to be in the blast radius when it explodes, same as standard Bombard.
dusky wedge
If you’re using controllers, instead of just tapping special, hold it and then freely aim with left stick
Although, tbh, I just let aim assist pick whatever target it wants and then just dash to it right when it drops
Easier that way
stoic flame
lmao day dull less
broken nest
I just want to say, the "Bug Support" shortcut is so cool. I just submitted a report straight from the game. I love this
north drum
Always remember: The boulder is not just your friend, the boulder is your only friend.
north drum
Oh I'm not talking about just Hades.
north drum
and I've been grinding darkness with Sisyphus as my summon for the last forty+ runs so yeah I'm pretty familiar with the name >.>
modern garnet
I wish I could get a higher ambiguity bonus
north drum
yas
modern garnet
Level 25 heart of stone.... so much ambiguity
north drum
I'm not sure what you mean.
modern garnet
Hehe
north drum
Bouldy?
BOULDY!
Just a rock from the temple ceiling.
north drum
yeah I'd like to see how many hearts I've earned with him
simple thistle
I have a lot of nectar and i need to do something with it
And im afraid to trade it and find out ill need it
north drum
so you just give it to Bouldy instead? 😛
simple thistle
Of course
modern garnet
You do run out of people to nectar eventually
But bouldy will never refuse a bevvy
simple thistle
I will probably just trade the nectar and get some ambrosia or something when i have nothing better to do with it
I think i need to gift like 10 more
north drum
you run out of needing all that eventually too 😛
and then you're stuck going "I wish I could turn this in for darkness at a faster rate than 1 in 10 runs when the broker has a special for it"
simple thistle
Yeah but will definitely be more useful
Do yall usually borrow charon's money when you see it or just ignore it?
north drum
entirely depends on how strong my build is
modern garnet
I tend to avoid shops unless I'm looking for charon
north drum
that depends how much money I have 😄
if I've got tons, shops are better reward/room than most other options...
broken nest
If I have divine dash, I fight Charon. It's pretty easy when you can deflect easily.
opaque radish
unlocked the entire codex
uncut dagger
nice
opaque radish
not sure why that isn't an achievement
Steam just sort picks a spot to stop with Hades' achievements lol
void vigil
There’s an achievement for unlocking all the olympians codex entries, if I had to guess it’s because unlocking the entire codex is way more time consuming and rng dependent. You are rewarded with a dialogue with Achilles about completing it though
slender hawk
Is there a way to cheese the final boss
I keep losing 
even when I think my builds are good
slender hawk
I have that
tidal scarab
then all your problems should be resolved then
brisk trail
using acorn helps, skelly can help if you cant deal with the phase where he summons mobs
otherwise shield is really good since it lets you block attacks
modern garnet
A lot of people's first wins are with shield
craggy elm
My first win was zag fists with athena attack, my next 10 were chaos shield with doom special :^)
dense valley
stoic flame
get the Aspect of Eris
what weapon is this
modern garnet
gun
cyan sundial
just finished the main quest of the story 
modern garnet
Mag cutter is more fun
stoic flame
this is true
brisk trail
its ok ye
delicate ember
ok well i got the asterius miniboss
defo harder but doable
mkay the area 3 fight was harder but did it only losing like 100 health
about to do hades
ok easy
only 1 death defiance used
signal aspen
Because I use Eris and afaik you can’t hit yourself with the rocket
but you can hit yourself with your rocket
craggy barn
if you mean rocket bomb, you just have to fire it point-blank at something
signal aspen
yep
craggy barn
firing it at a wall directly in front of you will give you the buff
personally it's my favourite hammer on eris, no need to wait for the explosion and i can quickly begin dealing damage to bosses
signal aspen
hazard bomb is better because you can damage yourself but ok
craggy barn
hazard rocket 
stoic flame
man the gun is just so so so so slow
signal aspen
bruh no its not
stoic flame
i was 🤏 this close to beating theseus but the then i died
craggy barn
i mean hestia is kind of slow compared to the other aspects
stoic flame
literally takes like 5 mins for every encounter
signal aspen
hestia is slow but not that slow
signal aspen
then its your fault
stoic flame
its the only one i have
craggy barn
going slow on eris?
the key is tidal dash
that's all i'll bother telling you
oh and also auto-aim
turn on aim assist and turn off aim to cursor
craggy barn
have you not checked the control settings
stoic flame
that one hammer buff which makes shots bounce
signal aspen
what do you use on attack, special, and dash
stoic flame
space to dash
stoic flame
ah
dash is mostly divine dash
attack is nothing becuase i never get attack boons ever
the game hates me
signal aspen
how
signal aspen
rip
signal aspen
bow is really good
craggy barn
just take thunder signet at the start and take lightning strike. easy dps
stoic flame
ur tripppin
signal aspen
no you are
stoic flame
bow is so 🥴
craggy barn
every weapon is good, it's just a matter of your ability to use them
stoic flame
i was writing shot
smh
u have to hold for every shot
which is kinda
not too goo
d
for me
signal aspen
bruh
craggy barn
flurry shot is good
you're still gonna end up having to learn to deal with charging up shots at some point because having to always rely on one specific hammer isn't the best strategy
stoic flame
hmm
craggy barn
dash-striking has much less charge time if that's where your issue is
stoic flame
thats all i use
craggy barn
then all i can say is practice landing powershots on skelly
craggy barn
keep trying until you can consistently land them /shrug
craggy barn
it's absolutely just practicing using the weapon and getting good at it, i really struggled with the bow at first
stoic flame
i think bow is the only weapon i havent beat the hydra with
craggy barn
sooner or later after using it frequently enough i actually got decent at using it and managed to clear 40 heat with it fairly easily
craggy barn
stoic flame
rough
hollow hawk
bow is an amazing weapon wtf yall on about
hollow hawk
would recommend attack at cursor off on kbm bow for casual players though
signal aspen
and hera
hollow hawk
My bow aspects probably go something like:
- Rama
- Zag
- Chiron
- Hera
Not that hera is a bad aspect, just that i suck at it
signal aspen
mine is this:
- rama
- chiron
- hera
- zag
zag is a good aspect but i feel like it isnt as good as the others
craggy barn
bow sucks. my igt pb isn't even using the bow smh!
main stratus
personally the rail besides lucifer aspect is my least fave
stiff musk
the fists feel pr underwhelming to me
main stratus
fists too, but the aspect of gilgamesh saves the entire lot
main stratus
gilgamesh is also really terrible
whats so bad about it
craggy barn
how dare you slander demeter fists!!!!!!11111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!111
brisk trail
no dmg, bad mechanic
craggy barn
gilgamesh
pros: maim
cons: maim
brisk trail
easily one of the worst for both heat and speed
craggy barn
i wonder if 50 heat can be cheesed with splash dash
main stratus
im still relatively low heat so its still pretty useful for me 
brisk trail
low heat anything goes
the higher you go the more you can usually tell which aspects work better
but you can clear with any aspect in the end
there might be a 50heat splash dash run dunno
craggy barn
if i ever do 50 heat fists it'd be really funny if i did it with splash dash gilga
brisk trail
sounds possible
brisk trail
or just reset for it ig
craggy barn
the problem is when i get a really good, lucky build going i end up not wanting to do it again knowing i'd have to be stupid lucky to get it again
my 32 heat splash dash gilga was nutty
+3 dashes 
main stratus
brisk trail
oof
signal aspen
not gilgamesh
stoic flame
never seen
signal aspen
its the hidden aspect
stoic flame
ah
main stratus
ive never done a clear on any aspect of fist besides gilgamesh
and maybe zagreus once or twice
signal aspen
why
main stratus
dunno, gilgamesh just works best for me
signal aspen
what do you like about gilgamesh
main stratus
the extra dashes, maim, more range on Attack
stoic flame
wait u can just use hidden aspects without investing any blood?
signal aspen
no
main stratus
nah, i just maxed gilgamesh for whatever reason
signal aspen
you have to unlock it
signal aspen
with blood
stoic flame
the wiki trippin
signal aspen
just send the link to the wiki page
main stratus
I think it means you don't have to unlock it with titan blood/be able to use it, but you need to have revealed it
stoic flame
huh
no way
i dont think i can use it
im checking this rn
yeah i cant use it
u have to unlock it
for 3 blood
signal aspen
yeah
stoic flame
looks kinda balls tho
main stratus
sounds like the wiki needs to fix that then
main stratus
but its charged attack refills hp per hit 👀
stoic flame
i basically never do the spin
signal aspen
the spin attack on spear is useless on zag and achilles
stoic flame
true
signal aspen
and i never use aspect of hades
main stratus
it gives ur spin more range
signal aspen
i know what it does
main stratus
i tend to gravitate towards more ranged/low risk builds
void vigil
the wiki says you can reveal more aspects without unlocking guan yu, it doesn’t say you can use them without investing titan blood. It’s correct
As long as you revealed it, you don’t need to unlock it with titan blood
signal aspen
i tend to gravitate towards more ranged/low risk builds
wait, why do you like gilgamesh if its short ranged high risk
main stratus
its less risk than the other fist aspects ig? I couldn't tell you why
signal aspen
it literally makes you take more damage from maim
main stratus
my fastest run was with gilgamesh and its just the easiest for me to run with out of the fists
main stratus
it literally makes you take more damage from maim
true but it gives +2 dodge and with low heat, its not a problem
main stratus
yeah, i haven't gotten there yet
my highest is 9 heat rn or something
havent been playing too long
main stratus
dang u legend
peak zealot
UGH.... apparently you can still get offered an anvil from the big shop even when you have no hammers. And then its just a dead slot
anvil is so bad
crude surge
But then it hits your good hammer and replaces it with two bad ones
signal aspen
i dont take the anvil if i have 1 good hammer
crude surge
But having two bad hammers is just rare
signal aspen
its happened to me before
crude surge
Yeah but how many times
crude surge
And how many did you take the Anvil
stiff musk
talk to me when u have 400 noob
crude surge
Like ofc it’s going to happen 1 in 400 times
signal aspen
i have taken the anvil exactly 395738.808472795037 times
crude surge
That number doesn’t seem right 
signal aspen
nah its right
peak zealot
I have 400 clears too. I've taken anvil something like 10 times. And most of those times were on aspect of hestia runs where hammers just don't matter.
peak zealot
And on this particular run, I was doing a blade dash run, so didn't end up with any hammers and don't benefit from anvil ever
anvil sucks
anvil is vastly worse than an extra upgraded hermes boon
signal aspen
yeah
but i have gotten bad hammers in a lot of runs
and i never take a third hermes boon
for some reason
peak zealot
Why? Third hermes boon is a strict upgrade. Hermes is good for every build
signal aspen
idk
peak zealot
And in any case, some weapons have actively bad hammers (as opposed to just bad hammers) so taking anvil has a chance of just completely throwing a run
like, anvil with any sword build is asking to ruin your run
dusky wedge
Anvil serves as this game’s risky gamble picks
Every roguelike has an element like that
Is it bad? Yes it is. Is it super good when it hits all the good stuffs? Also yes
peak zealot
I wish it didn't come at the cost of the best boon offering in the game
If anvil didn't mean missing an upgraded hermes boon, I'd be fine with it
As is, upgraded hermes boon is no risk and just as powerful
dusky wedge
In most runs, you’re limited to two Hermes boons only, anvil is there to balance things down
peak zealot
Its half isn't it? Half the time you get an anvil, the other half you get a hermes
I guess "half" is techinically most?
signal aspen
well ive noticed that if i get 2 hermes boons by the end of asphodel i am almost guaranteed a third one in styx
peak zealot
I can confirm that definitely isn't true
crude surge
And in any case, some weapons have actively bad hammers (as opposed to just bad ...
this
peak zealot
edit: misread your comment. It might be true. I don't think I've had 2 hermes boons by the end of asphodel enough to comment.
my apologies
peak zealot
I read it as end of elesium
dusky wedge
How about we think of it this way: in situations where we get one good hammer and one other bad one, picking an anvil at Styx is a 50% chance of getting rid of that hammer that we don’t want
Replacing it with potentially good or bad two ones
It’s not that bad, really
Some hammers are mostly just useless, not downright making certain builds not working
signal aspen
well i take the anvil pretty often when i have bad hammers, but if i get even worse hammers ill just quit and come back
dusky wedge
A 50% chance to replace one bad hammer for two more bad ones isn’t that bad
peak zealot
No, but its much worse than a hermes boon
signal aspen
yeah
peak zealot
and if it comes at the cost of a hermes boon, it feels kind of bad
dusky wedge
Not counting the fact that you might also get good ones, which is the high roll
signal aspen
hello
young wedge
Is it worth it to get aspect of gilgamesh or just upgrade aspect of arthur
dusky wedge
and if it comes at the cost of a hermes boon, it feels kind of bad
Count that in as the luck of the roll in roguelikes, then
signal aspen
but thats just what i would do
young wedge
upgrade arthur
okay thank you!
young wedge
gilgamesh isnt that good
should I still try and get it tho?
signal aspen
how much blood do you have?
young wedge
three
dusky wedge
Yes, because of certain ||prophecy||
signal aspen
i wouldnt buy it then
signal aspen
Yes, because of certain ||prophecy||
oh true
dusky wedge
Spoiler alert, but you kinda need it anyway later down the line for something
signal aspen
wait what do you need it for
dusky wedge
It’s whether you need it now or not
young wedge
Spoiler alert, but you kinda need it anyway later down the line for something
oh okay
peak zealot
gilgamesh lets you start doing dash based builds. You don't need to fully level it either. You get the extra 2 dashes with the base gilgamesh
young wedge
gilgamesh lets you start doing dash based builds. You don't need to fully level ...
I see
peak zealot
I think its worth a single level on arthur to get access to a new variety of builds
signal aspen
gilgamesh lets you start doing dash based builds. You don't need to fully level ...
what kind of dash based builds are you talking about
peak zealot
Poseidon/zeus/ares dash builds are all viable with gilgamesh
young wedge
I really like Aspect of Arthur and Aspect of Zeus
peak zealot
also, you get back the blood you spend on unlocking gilgamesh by getting to the final boss with the new aspect
young wedge
I don't like Aspect of Beowulf tho
peak zealot
so aspect of gilgamesh is basically free
young wedge
That's assuming that I can win against hades tho
peak zealot
I don't think you need to win to complete the prophecy
signal aspen
you dont
peak zealot
you just need to get to hades
peak zealot
well... If you can take aspect of gilgamesh and start your run with a poseidon dash, you will probably be fine
young wedge
I do zeus and artemis combo for Aspect of Demeter, can I also do the same for gilgamesh?
signal aspen
not really
peak zealot
Hell, the only perfect hades fight I've ever had was with aspec of gilgamesh. Athena attack + dash + 30% attack speed form hermes made it almost impossible for my character tot ake a hit
If you go all in on zeus, you can get a good aspect of gilgamesh run going. Artemis doesn't really do much for gilgamesh
young wedge
I see thanks!
oh another question as well, Is there any good aspect of chiron build?
I suck at the bow
signal aspen
aphro attack, artemis special or dio special
if you use artemis special then you can get heartrend
if you use dio special you can get low tolerance
peak zealot
There are a lot of viable chiron builds IMO. The most important thing when it comes to bows is that you master the dash attack
young wedge
I can get past Lernie but I always lose to theseus and asterius
peak zealot
dash attack and regular attack look almost the same in terms of animations, but the dash attack charges much faster at the cost of some damage
but with chiron, attack damage doesn't matter as its all coming from special anyway
signal aspen
yeah
young wedge
but with chiron, attack damage doesn't matter as its all coming from special any...
ohhhh
I see
I always use the pom for attack
signal aspen
pom the special more
peak zealot
Oh, also, chiron needs to be high level to be good IMO
lvl1 chiron is almost useless
signal aspen
ye get it to at least level 3
peak zealot
If you want a bow that works at low level, try the aspect of hera
It is obviously better at high level, but it does what you need it to at lvl 1
young wedge
I have aspect of hera
Should I level up Aspect of Arthur or Aspect of Chiron?
I mainly use arthur
signal aspen
what level are they
young wedge
Arthur is lvl 2 and Chiron is lvl 1
peak zealot
Personally, I prefer chiron. But if you prefer arthur, feel free to level arthur. There is no wrong way to play the game if you are having fun
signal aspen
level up chiron if you are gonna play it
signal aspen
np
signal aspen
bye
peak zealot
take care
waxen solstice
A couple audio quirks I noticed. They may just be me, but..
The Adamant Rail's Aspect of Lucifer, when you reload, sounds much like one of the instruments in Super Metroid's music, I'm still looking for the specific track
Demeter's dash upgrade, the gust of wind sounds like a minecraft zombie to me, I can't unhear it
uncut dagger
The Adamant Rail's Aspect of Lucifer, when you reload, sounds much like one of t...
yeah I always noticed that
waxen solstice
When you clear a room in Elysium, the music sounds like a slow and quiet version of Doom's E1M1 track
signal aspen
Demeter's dash upgrade, the gust of wind sounds like a minecraft zombie to me, I...
hmmm
im trying to think about the dash sound now
and i dont hear it
maybe its because im not playing hades rn
so i dont have the boon
uncut dagger
oh you know what
modern garnet
just get the boon in real life
uncut dagger
The Adamant Rail's Aspect of Lucifer, when you reload, sounds much like one of t...
it sounds like some of the instruments used in Zero Mission's version of Brinstar
signal aspen
i forgot what button i have to press to dash
waxen solstice
I can kinda unhear it when the room is quiet, but when I'm in combat and I dash I instinctively go AH ZOMBIE
signal aspen
im trying to think about the dash sounds but all i can hear is the artemis dash sound effect
waxen solstice
it sounds like some of the instruments used in Zero Mission's version of Brinsta...
I'm almost convinced this is the same sound, at the beginning of the track.
They are so similar
uncut dagger
https://youtu.be/OKTBf5_T6LI
oh, that too
waxen solstice
This is the specific one I thought of
signal aspen
im trying to think about it now
but my game volume is really low
i dont know what most things sound like
modern garnet
the artemis dash sound is SO LOUD
modern garnet
if you sound like that when you dash you will FAIL HUNTING
waxen solstice
I still havent found an answer for why the flame wheels sound like cats/kittens, but I see that discussed a lot, so I wanted to bring up these others
signal aspen
because they are cats
uncut dagger
who knows
maybe that's just a stylistic decision
modern garnet
the flame wheels sound like cats because the big wheels sound like lions
and the big wheels sound like lions because it's coliseum themed or something
waxen solstice
the flame wheels sound like cats because the big wheels sound like lions
THANK YOU
I never noticed the big ones roaring, but I guess they do
I assumed it was just a choice that was funny, but served the purpose of being distinct enough from the rest of the soundscape to serve as a recognizeable warning
I guess it achieves those as well, but that detail ties it all together
Now explain super metroid reloading 🧐
waxen solstice
Big dash loud mean strong, good for hunt bear
signal aspen
haha dash go zoom zoom boom wooosh
waxen solstice
I feel like there were other quirks, but I can't quite remember
Skelly often reminds me of other voices, often it's the youtuber monster puppet Arlo, but that doesn't really count
half zephyr
Demeter's dash upgrade, the gust of wind sounds like a minecraft zombie to me, I...
I’m not alone anymore!
signal aspen
nice
waxen solstice
I’m not alone anymore!
I was worried for a moment that I was the only one, too 👀
half zephyr
I just couldn't figure out for ages where the zombie was
and then it clicked that it was demdash
but why
glad leaf
I played 8 hours yesterday don’t complain
poor you
signal aspen
demeter
golden kayak
thanks
waxen solstice
Demeter's fists are my favorite, feels so good to one punch armored baddies
The fists in general, with hangover attack is one of my guilty pleasure kits
signal aspen
Demeter's dash upgrade, the gust of wind sounds like a minecraft zombie to me, I...
i have the dash rn and i have max in game volume, it sorta sounds like a zombie but its not a minecraft zombie
waxen solstice
Maybe the minecraft water zombies? The drowned or whatever?
waxen solstice
Hmm. I'll have to listen to them side by side later
Maybe its the hit sound for the zombies
signal aspen
i know exactly what that sounds like
and it doesnt sound like that
maybe its because i remember the sound from like 7 years ago
idk if they changed the sound
signal aspen
nice
sleek pebble
I finally switched from gamepad to mous&keyboard, even though it took some hours to get used to
crude surge
It's like the Athena call but less
It buffs your damage
sleek pebble
feels better now for some weapons 
brisk trail
It buffs your damage
It do? Cool
crude surge
yeah for a bit after you stop going invis
brisk trail
Nice
coarse linden
y
brisk trail
Da Mantle of Darkness with the damage buff
coarse linden
i didnt mean to type that
brisk trail
Np
crude surge
you have to talk with her a bit more
theres a certain convo that eventually comes up and then you get it
reef wharf
i forgot to mention that its been a while week since ive maxed it
but alright ill just keep talking to her and see if i get it
crude surge
has she ||talked to you in your room||
cerulean ferry
Yeah, took me a while as well. Luck ain't on our sides ig
reef wharf
has she ||talked to you in your room||
ahh i see, she didnt yet
i forgot that thats the main trigger for certain bonds
grave kayak
Does the 20 percent off card go away or do I equip it or what
crude surge
You dont have to equip it but it goes away when you finish the run
grave kayak
Ahhh nooo
Lol oh well at least I beat him once
Why would they make fishing be able to be at a crappy angle? Why wouldn't he like walk to the side or something
I could only do it facing up and it was blocking the bobber
half zephyr
I could only do it facing up and it was blocking the bobber
There’s audio that lets you know too if you can’t see the flash
grave kayak
Yea I couldn't hear I was listening to music
calm eagle
Well done!!
young wedge
thank you!
I was so scared because I had like 80 health and no death defiances
and Hades didn't fight me
modern garnet
dont you just have to buy house things
half zephyr
just do lounge renovations
and dialogues
with multiple characters
that's it
must include at least 1 rug & you have to clean up after cerb if you haven't already
young wedge
ohh I see thanks!
simple thistle
Theres like 2 last quests for the main story btw
Then you have side quests and bonds
young wedge
bow of rama is op wth
I just won against theseus, I have all my death defiances and full health
young wedge
I have the +4 special and stronger power shot
I'm playing in my laptop so I switched the special for attack and now I just spam it
modern garnet
Oooogh that stronger power shot on rama........ bow that shoots trucks
modern garnet
The one that gives you faster calls?
modern garnet
Hehe you're gonna go far with this one
young wedge
I'm in temple of styx right now
haven't used my death defiance once
I also have lucky tooth
modern garnet
You could probably win with your eyes closed
modern garnet
? You use your regular shooting on big enemies right?
young wedge
I attack first to weaken the enemy then spam the special
modern garnet
You attack first.. with rama?
modern garnet
I mean, do you understand how the rama effect works
modern garnet
Omg.......
The way the rama effect works is, when an enemy gets hit by a special, they get a little mark above their head, right?
Whenever you hit an enemy with a regular attack, all those enemies take %damage
young wedge
so special first then attack?
modern garnet
Yeah generallg
You can tag all the big enemies with special and then fire the regular shot at a crowd of small enemies, and every time one of them gets hit, it hits the big enemy
young wedge
ohhhh
modern garnet
That's why powershot is so good with it
I mean you can keep doing it the way you've been doing it I guess, if it works
modern garnet
And you'll be even faster next time, now that you actually understand the weapon lmaoooo
young wedge
yep LMAOOO
modern garnet
Rama so strong you don't need to read it to win with it
young wedge
yep I didn't even use it right like 95% of the run
modern garnet
Best weapon
astral swift
Using the House Contractor to complete a minimum of 12 Lounge-focused renovations, which must include at least one rug for the area as well as cleaning up Cerberus's fur and the scratches he left in the floor
quiet lily
what are the odds of getting 3 duo boons to choose from at once, assuming the mirror perk that increases that chance not being active?
unreal atlas
The most duo boons you can be eligible for from a single god is 4 (assuming no specific requirements and every button is a different god). I have no idea what the odds of getting a Duo are, if possible.
But even having five different colours on your buttons is rare in itself.
buoyant merlin
how many god choices can spawn on a single run and how do the keepsakes that spawn specific gods affect that?
modern garnet
Once you have boons from 4 gods, they stop offering you more gods, except with god keepsakes
And excepting hermes and chaos, who don't count for any of this
unreal atlas
The question becomes, is there even a set of four gods from which you can qualify for all 6 duos?
(Although only three would matter here.)
young wedge
can you still have the mini boss fight with asterius when you've gotten the mini boss fight with the butterfly ball?
wraith ginkgo
I don't think so
young wedge
ohh okay
imma just go suicide then
is there any tips to getting the mini boss fight with asterius?
I want to get the aspect of gilgamesh
fast wind
Pick all the skull/mini boss rooms in Elysium. You’ll get him p much every time.
Just make sure you’ve done all the pre requisites or you won’t get the dialogue for the fists
(The spear aspect is required to unlock all the others) and the guides I found online weren’t great. Kinda had to sort it out for myself. @young wedge
young wedge
I always get the butterfly ball thing for some reason
I have all the aspects I only need gilgamesh
Thanks!
fast wind
You’ll probably get at least one other mini boss yeah
Just pick the skull rooms and you’ll get him
young wedge
I'll keep that in mind
fast wind
Np! Enjoy. My fave is capped gilga fists rn 😋
brisk trail
How many bosses till hades?
fast wind
How many bosses till hades?
There’s one boss per biome not including mini bosses.
obtuse sky
Do you guys know if we can eventually expect new house decorations👀? Decorating the House of Hades is my favorite part 🤣💙 Extreme Makeover:Underworld Edition 😎
void vigil
did you get all the decorations? That took me a while!
I do enjoy renovating now and then, like making the entire house blue and purple or making everything red and pink
modern garnet
aspect of hades has always seemed a bit underwhelming to me
it's not "favorite aspect" material
and im the kind of person who likes to spin so
brisk trail
its good
high island
Hmmm well Achilles was buffed a lot in 1.0, and a lot of other aspects were. I think for us veterans, we were playing a different game in Early Access, so Hades was really good back then and seems perfectly fine to us now.
Whereas to newer players it probably seems like a weaker one?
I dunno.
brisk trail
maybe 🤔 spears are just spears to me they tend to play similar
high island
They do.
I think spear was probably the most difficult for me to get the hang of, though.
Sword was easy to figure out, it's just not that good, though. 
half zephyr
is there any tips to getting the mini boss fight with asterius?
Extremely delayed tip - Asterius tends to appear around chamber 30
stiff musk
spear was my easiest to learn
dash strike maybe wacky stuff with special depending on hammers repeat forever
brisk trail
Sword was easy to figure out, it's just not that good, though. <:dusa:5222487714...
):
young wedge
Extremely delayed tip - Asterius tends to appear around chamber 30
Oh thanks!
I've gotten the aspect of gilgamesh
I need titan blood tho
signal aspen
Pom rooms spawn even without applicable boons?
they give you money tho
signal aspen
what
young wedge
What's the easiest pact of punishment?
signal aspen
tight deadline
young wedge
I really need the titan blood but I need 8 heat
brisk trail
yeah tight deadline 1 is super easy
signal aspen
em2, td1, js1, mm, lc1 is 8 heat i think
waxen solstice
Tight deadline, whatever negates the first/second hit on enemies (as long as you arent using the bow or other slow weapon), jury duty summons 1 isn't bad
brisk trail
Tight deadline, whatever negates the first/second hit on enemies (as long as you...
damage control is the blue heart one
young wedge
I'm using aspect of arthur
waxen solstice
Yeah, Damage Control is fine with faster attack builds like Fist
brisk trail
dont take damage control on arthur
signal aspen
ap2 is the easiest
waxen solstice
Yeah, not that then lol
brisk trail
ap2 is the easiest
bruh moment
young wedge
._.
brisk trail
your definition of easy needs some work
signal aspen
you just bad
young wedge
no mirror means no death defiances right?
signal aspen
yes
young wedge
hell nahh
waxen solstice
and thats easy
Wait, were you the one that told me erebus gates were too easy and that they should add lava?
brisk trail
that sounds like them
unborn remnant
that sounds right
signal aspen
shut up
brisk trail
youve made a name for yourself here
young wedge
Wait, were you the one that told me erebus gates were too easy and that they sho...
lmaoo
half zephyr
I like BP1 & 2
unborn remnant
Realistically, 8 heat isnt too bad
brisk trail
MM is fine, it can catch you off guard the first time but once you get used to it, its fine
unborn remnant
I dont have the exact heat mods up but Tight Deadline, Extreme Measures and Convienence Fee should get you 8 heat @young wedge
brisk trail
I dont have the exact heat mods up but Tight Deadline, Extreme Measures and Conv...
depends how much of each you take
unborn remnant
yeah
signal aspen
nah dont take cf
brisk trail
if you take TD2, EM2, and CF2 thatll get you 8 but i dont recommend that
signal aspen
its annoying
half zephyr
use BP
waxen solstice
I'm up to 19 heat with Zeus Shield, I think around 12 heat when I actually have to pay real attention while I play
brisk trail
i would sooner take HL1 JS1 than CF2
young wedge
max extreme measures and convenience?
unborn remnant
both at 1 should be enough
half zephyr
max extreme measures and convenience?
you can't max yet unless you've bought it
unborn remnant
Do EM2, CF1, and Tight Deadline 1/2 @young wedge
half zephyr
em3 is fun though
young wedge
all at 1 is only 4 heat
half zephyr
just watch out for asterius beyblade
brisk trail
em3 can be easier than regular theseus and minotaur depending on your weapon
half zephyr
some heats give more then 1 at lvl 1
waxen solstice
EM3 is standard for my runs unless I wanna talk to Tisiphone 😌
unborn remnant
Forced Overtime can also be useful depending on your build
brisk trail
FO is tough to get used to
signal aspen
i dont think you should take it at low heat
waxen solstice
Forced Overtime can also be useful depending on your build
Useful how?
brisk trail
@young wedge you said arthur right?
half zephyr
faster
young wedge
<@!794468905270771792> you said arthur right?
yepp
unborn remnant
yeah it makes enemies faster
young wedge
I can also do rama or zeus
half zephyr
arthur is the easy one
unborn remnant
which speeds up the pace
brisk trail
i think for arthur id say: HL1, JS1, EM2, TD2
brisk trail
arthur has a lot of sweeping attacks, it's really easy to take JS on arthur
half zephyr
more hp, more dmg, a field that disables ground traps & slows down things inside it
signal aspen
i think for arthur id say: HL1, JS1, EM2, TD2
id probably take off hl and js and replace it with mm
brisk trail
thats also an option, but MM can be tricky until you learn the new changes
half zephyr
use BP~ it's fun
young wedge
I'll do LC, CF, EM2, MM, TD
brisk trail
use BP~ it's fun
seeker witches
half zephyr
FUN
signal aspen
its not fun
half zephyr
BP & BP2 are fun cuz of all the new effects!
young wedge
oh wait nvm
brisk trail
fast seeker witches or ghost seeker witches are the absolute worst thing in the game, hands down
signal aspen
something about extra fast teleporting armored flamewheels doesnt sound fun to me
half zephyr
you don't have a sense of adventure
brisk trail
something about extra fast teleporting armored flamewheels doesnt sound fun to m...
thats a close second
young wedge
Is there any tips at killing hades with aspect of rama?
signal aspen
thats a close second
i got that before and it deleted my dd in one second
brisk trail
sounds about right yeah
signal aspen
it depends what your build is
signal aspen
it's still fun!
if you like dying then yeah its fun
brisk trail
I keep forgetting the special+attack
use dash attack if you are getting hit often, it charges faster so you can get out of there faster
young wedge
I do zeus+aphro
signal aspen
well you do low heat
half zephyr
we are discussing low heat!!
signal aspen
well why would anybody use bp at low heat
half zephyr
cuz it's fun
signal aspen
no its not
half zephyr
I've been saying that along 😂
use it cuz it's fun
signal aspen
bruh
half zephyr
it's like a change of pace
signal aspen
i will never understand why you think its fun
half zephyr
something new
brisk trail
shadow is masochistic, lets move on
signal aspen
ok
half zephyr
unpredictable
half zephyr
shadow is masochistic, lets move on
no, that's the high heat people
you don't even get a reward
half zephyr
not good enough
signal aspen
yes
young wedge
omg I hate TD
signal aspen
i think i claimed every bounty in the game except for sword bounties
brisk trail
its gonna be so nice when i get my first 40 heat done
half zephyr
TD is easy tho
brisk trail
i think i claimed every bounty in the game except for sword bounties
this makes me sad
young wedge
I
half zephyr
just spend less then 9 mins in the realms
young wedge
I
signal aspen
this makes me sad
sword isnt good
brisk trail
))):
young wedge
I'm having panic attacks
half zephyr
why
half zephyr
just play fast
young wedge
Timer
signal aspen
wait wrong game
brisk trail
lance lmao
young wedge
lance is better
nah bro
half zephyr
I don't notice the timer
young wedge
I hate the spear/lance
brisk trail
spear sucks
brisk trail
spear is the worst weapon hands down, non-negotiable
young wedge
Guan yu sucks
brisk trail
guan yu is the only fun spear aspect
young wedge
fun yes but the low health is annoying
signal aspen
Guan yu sucks
guan yu is the only spear aspect that i will play
but sometimes i will try to do a cast build with achilles
half zephyr
I feel like the higher heat the player is using, the better they talk about GY
signal aspen
but then i will fail
young wedge
I think I have to lvl it yp first
signal aspen
you just bad
half zephyr
yup
young wedge
I also dislike the fists
signal aspen
fists are good
young wedge
It's good just not my style
signal aspen
but not gilgamesh
half zephyr
gilga is meh
half zephyr
zag fist is fun, talos is nice & according to most demeter is epic
signal aspen
yeah demeter is epic
half zephyr
plus it's just fun using fists
young wedge
my rating is sword > Shield > Bow > Fists > Rail > Spear
brisk trail
cause sword is pog
signal aspen
no
brisk trail
yes
young wedge
sword is pog
signal aspen
the more i play sword the less i like it
brisk trail
why
young wedge
fists and rail is kinda tied for me