#h1-discussion

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high island
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You can stand right on top of him. The beams won't hit you.

chilly sonnet
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im just trying to beat the game for the first time so i use harpy feather duster until styx when i switch to collar

rigid crane
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I start with a gods keepsake

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Then use the bone teeth

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And then the acorn

livid mist
rigid crane
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Preferably Artemis’s arrow

signal aspen
livid mist
chilly sonnet
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bosses/enemies that dont deal contact damage feel weird lol

rigid crane
chilly sonnet
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i dont have the acorn yet given i dont know what it is

rigid crane
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So when I die with the tooth I swap it

signal aspen
livid mist
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also god calls with full divine bar or whatever the name is are wickedly broken

high island
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god > god > coin purse/tooth/acorn > tooth/acorn is a solid strategy.

livid mist
chilly sonnet
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also side note

livid mist
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what does the acorn do

rigid crane
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I use the 1 death per chamber perk

chilly sonnet
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did none of the voice actors in this game drink water during their recordings lmao

signal aspen
livid mist
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thats just

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dumb

rigid crane
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It’s sooo goood

rigid crane
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Acorn is soo good on later bosses

livid mist
chilly sonnet
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theres so many mouth noise in the dialogue

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omg meg in the cinematic trailer is awful

modern garnet
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Yeah that's what talking is

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Mouth noises

livid mist
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honestly my luck on the run depends on what Fury im gonna fight

high island
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That's just rude.

livid mist
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alecto and tisiphone are tough, while Meg is absolutely free

chilly sonnet
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i mean like when you can hear their lips separating and such

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sounds pretty bad

livid mist
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i love the voice acting in this game

high island
chilly sonnet
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and the tongue and cheek sounds

livid mist
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every single character is so charismatic

signal aspen
chilly sonnet
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normal

high island
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The voice acting in SGG games is absolutely stellar.

chilly sonnet
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maybe my ear is just trained to it

livid mist
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honestly i was a bit disappointed to find that hypnos's voice was that squeaky

brisk trail
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You may just be so used to poor recording quality in other games that good quality sounds off.

chilly sonnet
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when you hear that stuff during talking

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???

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mouth noises are generally considered to be bad quality

livid mist
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bruh what

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i think the voice acting is outstanding

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it sounds very natural

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especially zag

chilly sonnet
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the acting is fine for the most part

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zag is really good mostly

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just the mouth clicks are distracting

livid mist
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ive never had trouble with that

chilly sonnet
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my ear could just be trained to it by now

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but i notice it a lot, mostly in megs lines and zags

half zephyr
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I haven’t noticed anything off about the voice acting in the game - they sound just fine nyaShrug
Normal apart from the whole acting aspect - I’ve yet to find someone speaking like Theseus irl

livid mist
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meg has an exaggerated voice so thats normal

chilly sonnet
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not really

livid mist
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she speaks with a dry voice

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so

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ye

chilly sonnet
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you could still edit those parts out pretty easily

livid mist
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you may have missed that they are intentional

chilly sonnet
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with the right software at least

livid mist
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they arent inherently bad

chilly sonnet
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mouth clicks are not pleasant to listen to

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you can have a dry voice without them

livid mist
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what do you mean with mouth clicks?

chilly sonnet
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megs lines are delivered just fine i just wish they edited the clicks out

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this video

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just skip to the middle or something

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as an example

livid mist
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thats a whole as s 20 minute video

chilly sonnet
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dont gotta watch the whole thing

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just skip to the middle and watch like 5 seconds

signal aspen
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im good

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i wont be watching that anytime soon

chilly sonnet
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its the best video i could find that has what im talking about lol

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unless i wanted to go record my own example but im not going to

livid mist
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asmr hurts my brain

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its so cringe

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anyways those "mouth clicks" youre saying make the voicelines sound more natural imo

chilly sonnet
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not really

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can i post audio files here? i want to try something

narrow hemlock
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i think some people need to just accept the voicing is deliberate and if sg wanted to edit out aspects they didn't like, they would have done so lol. im p sure darren handled most of them, judging by the noclip docs

livid mist
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i mean you posted a video so

chilly sonnet
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ill try

half zephyr
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Meg just sounds like she has a layering effect on her voice

livid mist
half zephyr
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Mhm

livid mist
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mmMmMuUuUrdDEeErRrR

half zephyr
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And master chaos

livid mist
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yeah but chaos has a very different effect

half zephyr
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Mhm

livid mist
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shades have an effect as well

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hell, nearly every single character has one

half zephyr
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Such is the voice of the dead & immortals I guess hehe

narrow hemlock
chilly sonnet
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Well I was going to try to edit out the clicks as an example but the software I use for it is having a hard time probably because of the music

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And I can't post audio files here anyway so

livid mist
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lol

narrow hemlock
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file embeds work. we disallow direct uploads in most channels to encourage more meaningful discussion and make people who want to spam have to work harder at it

chilly sonnet
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dont know how to embed a file

narrow hemlock
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you upload it elsewhere and link it here

livid mist
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embeds are automatic

chilly sonnet
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Idk if that works

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Either way that's the best I could do

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Mostly the second half is still off but the first half is better

twin moat
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Does hades have adaptive music? I was hitting some enemies and it was at the rythm of the music

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But idk if it was a coincidence

signal aspen
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I dont think it does

twin moat
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That was a pretty cool coincidence then

narrow hemlock
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it does? it changes as you progress chambers though, it's not affected by enemies. the music is separated by instruments so that it can change and pick up tempo as you progress

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the music at the start of a biome is usually more mellow than what you'll hear by the end of it

livid mist
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yea

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when a chamber doesnt have enemies its just the bass usually

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and when you get to the next, the other instruments get added

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its really cool imo

narrow hemlock
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it's also part of why some people feel hades has a weaker soundtrack than sg's other titles but honestly i think it works very well for hades and a static soundtrack wouldn't have worked as effectively

chilly sonnet
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This is a better edit, still not perfect but its probably the best I can do with this audio without screwing it up

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Second one sounds much cleaner

red gust
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it works for hades, but both pyre’s and transistor’s soundtracks are not entirely static either

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they shift and change depending on where you are, whether you’re in dialogue or in transistor’s case, combat

twin moat
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Yeah, but for me it was a coincidence I think

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A part of the song was looping while I hit the enemies and it was the exact rythm

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But I don't think it does that

uncut dagger
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Theseus + Demeter is the worst

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every time Theseus breathes there's a darn Vortex

signal aspen
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the chamber is pretty big so you can just run to the other side of the room and hide behind a pillar

uncut dagger
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yeah but then I'm not hitting him and that makes me upset :(

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also hard when Demeter is bombing the everloving poodoo out of the arena with her AOE stuffs

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I dunno what that attack is called

signal aspen
uncut dagger
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alright it's now called AOE stuffs very nice to know

modern garnet
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ok thats very silly

uncut dagger
signal aspen
modern garnet
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the joke is that everything displayed reduces damage

signal aspen
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and you deal a decent amount of damage

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and then you win

uncut dagger
signal aspen
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a dad spin with boiling blood did 11 damage

modern garnet
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the problem is that damage resistance doesn't add, it multiplies

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you know what is additive? dodge chance

signal aspen
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i wanna do a dodge chance build but i dont like playing with plume

uncut dagger
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eh
I mean I dunno man
I can deal with Theseus + Demeter
I think if I were to do this build it would just kinda not enjoy it, since I'm more of a "do a lot of damage with Status effects" kinda guy, not
"take no damage, but deal a decent amount"
I dunno, maybe that's just me

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although I do appreciate the advice

signal aspen
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that was not advice it was a joke

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i dont think that somebody will actually make that build

modern garnet
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this is a very funny build but yeah it's not... a "build"

uncut dagger
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👍

signal aspen
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bruh

uncut dagger
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I'm still kinda new to this

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cut me some slack

modern garnet
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no worries

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the cheapest way to reduce damage is to not get hit

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dont need ANY boons for that

fierce swift
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I got to the Bone Hydra in Asphodel

signal aspen
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oh

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uh

modern garnet
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which is to say, it's a lot easier to reduce the damage of enemies than it is to increase your own damage, so you should grab boons that increase your damage

fierce swift
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I got clapped lmao

signal aspen
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theres a spoiler right above your message

uncut dagger
fierce swift
signal aspen
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rip

uncut dagger
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🇷 🇮 🇵

fierce swift
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Biggus Rippus

signal aspen
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sussus amogus

fierce swift
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Wait, are gifs allowed here?

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If not, I'll pull it immediately

uncut dagger
# signal aspen ~~sussus amogus~~

STOP POSTING ABOUT AMONG US! I'M TIRED OF SEEING IT! My friends on TikTok send me memes, on Discord it's fecking memes
I was in, a server, right, and AAAAAAAALL of the channels are just Among Us!

signal aspen
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i think so

fierce swift
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Lovely

uncut dagger
signal aspen
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there is a built in gif thing on discord

uncut dagger
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they can't ban that?

signal aspen
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no

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i dont think so

uncut dagger
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they could just do no embed links

narrow hemlock
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gifs are allowed (provided they fall within community guidelines outlined in #readme-first) and are somewhat relevant to the topic at hand but we'd prefer you use reaction gifs sparingly as they can become spam

uncut dagger
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thank you tatz, very cool

dusky wedge
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I know, but the combat is very similar

livid mist
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the dude was asking for roguelikes tho

stiff musk
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ftl is a classic

livid mist
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ftl

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follow the light...? idk lol

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i made that up

stiff musk
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faster than light

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ftl

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big ship blow up small ship there is also a significant amount of political strife

dusky wedge
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It is a roguelite but I would also say it’s not an action game though shadesmile

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Ok, here’s one, Curse of the Dead Gods, but it’s not as fast as Hades, more like Dark Souls

brisk trail
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Lol for me asphodel is somehow the hardest

rigid crane
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Oof

brisk trail
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And the last area is the easiest

rigid crane
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Yea I rarely die on B2

brisk trail
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I think I keep chilling on the lava in asphodel

rigid crane
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But when I do it’s ether Cus I was stupid, or I had a bad run

brisk trail
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And the stone medusa heads are horrible

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And the claw people things

rigid crane
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Ah

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HypnosSticker I can post sleepy boi now

brisk trail
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But by the end my build is good so final boss isn't a problem

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But bone hydra is nightmarish

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Sometimes

clear oasis
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kinda wished they played up artemis and aphrodite hating each other more, that could have been funny if not totally politically correct

modern garnet
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Have you seen their duo dialogue?

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Aphrodite absolutely bullies artemis

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It's so rude

rigid crane
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I just got exclusive Access at the start of my run

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This is gonna be a great run

modern garnet
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Perhaps... an epic run?

rigid crane
brisk trail
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epic embed fail

solar coral
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HyliaThink will Hades ever come to itch.io like the other Supergiant games on the platform?

narrow hemlock
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it's currently undecided which platforms the devs will pursue for hades' future

rigid crane
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Let’s goooo. 2nd time beating the 3rd Bioma

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*biome

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I love exclusive access

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Best boon IMO

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First time fighting hades, wish me luck

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And I’m ded

stiff musk
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then i got to elysium

stiff musk
brisk trail
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what is the best mirror of night build?

stiff musk
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idk i just upgrade everything and hope for the best

brisk trail
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lol

reef wharf
stiff musk
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have been loving chthonic regeneration or whatever its called

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the one that heals from darkness rather than per room

brisk trail
severe flower
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mirror configs depend on the build you’re going for

reef wharf
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imo

stiff musk
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i always play with dark thirst

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im sheeple

severe flower
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but generally keep fated persuasion dark foresight family favourite and high confidence on if you’re decent enough

uncut dagger
stiff musk
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facts!!!

brisk trail
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well what is good for aspect of beowulf?

stiff musk
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i hate aphrodite

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she feels patronizing

reef wharf
uncut dagger
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kinda stuck up
although I think that's the whole point

severe flower
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if you’re going for dio cast use stygian soul

stiff musk
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yeah

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still hate her!

severe flower
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beowulf is the best aspect for speedrunning

uncut dagger
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indeed

reef wharf
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unless youre asking what cast boons to drop on it

stiff musk
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artemis is nice because she reassures me and tells me shes here for me and that everything is going to be alright

uncut dagger
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worst by a far and wide margin

brisk trail
uncut dagger
stiff musk
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this is true

reef wharf
brisk trail
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but dragon rush is so strong lol

reef wharf
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just my opinion

severe flower
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i think beowulf is the best shield aspect (for speedrunning)

stiff musk
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artemis also seems genuinely thankful for stuff like nectar

severe flower
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chaos is cool for casual runs

stiff musk
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all the other gods are like "thank u for offering :DDD"

reef wharf
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athena best god

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doesnt even get mad when you pick the other boon

stiff musk
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do you get unique dialogue if you enter chaos realm with chaos aspect

severe flower
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do you get unique dialogue if you enter chaos realm with chaos aspect
yeah

brisk trail
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why are u guys all forgetting sisyphus 😦

reef wharf
stiff musk
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bruh rock man cool

brisk trail
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rock man is boys

reef wharf
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rock man only good for darkness PES_Angery

trail plover
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Which do you guys prefer, high confidence, or thick skin?

stiff musk
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sisyphus is like many of the other characters that are just like "you can do it ayayaya"

severe flower
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high confidence 80 percent of the time

stiff musk
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doesnt tell me everything is going to be okay

severe flower
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for like 16 heat up probs thick skin

stiff musk
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which one are those again

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also

severe flower
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esp if i’m using a dangerous aspect like achilles

stiff musk
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this is smth ppl throw around that i dont understand

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what is heat

trail plover
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Hmm, I'm using a new save file, so there's no heat levels yet.

reef wharf
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heat is extra difficulty

stiff musk
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ah

reef wharf
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more mobs

modern garnet
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You unlock heat by beating final boss

stiff musk
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separate from hell mode?

reef wharf
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more damage

severe flower
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once you get your first clear you unlock the pact of punishment

stiff musk
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i see

trail plover
reef wharf
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the more you pick the higher the heat

severe flower
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and it’s basically a difficulty scale

reef wharf
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okay proxy

trail plover
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so it's just forcing the same mechanic.

reef wharf
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its a pretty big list of things that can f*** you over

brisk trail
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what did u say lol

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ooh

severe flower
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heat is just a list of handicaps you can select for bounties

modern garnet
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Don't say swears, even if they're blotted out

trail plover
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The server is meant to be family friendly, I believe, so it filters for swears.

modern garnet
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The heat system can get kinda silly... some heat effects can be a lot worse than others

uncut dagger
uncut dagger
stiff musk
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that can f word you over

reef wharf
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@stiff musk you farm titans blood, diamonds, and ambrosia by completing runs at scaling levels of heat (not including minor prophecies)

uncut dagger
modern garnet
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Easiest might be... jury summons 1?

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Idk

reef wharf
reef wharf
modern garnet
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Jury summons 1 gives you like 20% more enemies in normal rooms, which is a noticeable increase

reef wharf
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you wont get overwhelmed

uncut dagger
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you can also farm Titan Blood/Diamonds by saving on Obol and buying the Diamond/Titan Blood at Charon's Shop in the Styx

severe flower
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easiest heat is like 1 point of lasting consequences

modern garnet
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:( but I like healing

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Maybe convenience fee, then

reef wharf
modern garnet
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You got me shadegrief

severe flower
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+40 percent for one heat is a lot

reef wharf
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jury summons is a good first heat

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i did all my weapons with that relatively quickly

severe flower
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but jury summons is good too yeah

modern garnet
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EM 1 and 2 are easy enough heats once you learn the bosses

reef wharf
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its more enemies but its not too much to lose control over

modern garnet
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I tend to prefer heats that don't affect the final boss

severe flower
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em2 is something you’d put for speedrunning or for 8 heat +

reef wharf
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middle management isnt too bad either

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you only face like 3 mini bosses max

severe flower
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you can easily lose a death defiance on em2 so it gets dangerous sometimes

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but with practice it’s fine

reef wharf
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oh theres also heightened security

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never had a problem with that one either

modern garnet
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?????????

severe flower
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i don’t recommend heightened security

uncut dagger
severe flower
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the styx traps and hades urns are very punishing

uncut dagger
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I don't get the hate

modern garnet
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Heightened security is rough, especially on final boss

uncut dagger
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I was already incentiveised to not go near the traps

severe flower
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it’s 1 heat and you take like 120 on the hades urns

modern garnet
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I only get hit by a trap once per run but it's miserable if I'm taking 400% more damage

reef wharf
uncut dagger
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I mean that's not a fair assumption

modern garnet
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Walk into a trap and your run ends

uncut dagger
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it really just boils down to different tastes

severe flower
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i just think there’s better options for 1 heat

reef wharf
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i think heightened would be a good last resort +1 heat

modern garnet
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If it gave more heat then I'd be more interested for sure

reef wharf
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damage control is nice as well

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just have to whack an extra time

modern garnet
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Damage control really really depends on your weapon

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Some weapons really hate dc

reef wharf
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if youre familiar with the game then tight deadline is a very solid option if you dont want to buff enemies

modern garnet
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Oh yeah TD1 is usually fine

severe flower
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td is fun

reef wharf
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at a point youd be gaining more time instead of losing

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even at td2

modern garnet
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One time I lost a run to TD1 and now I'm a bit sour on it but that's just me

severe flower
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td2 is usually ran for top speedruns but also has it’s uses for 16 heat +

reef wharf
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ive actually completed my 16 heat with td2

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and if you want to run convenience fee then you can just save up a bunch of coins and just buy healing if its necessary

severe flower
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convenience fee is like

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for high heats it’s nearly free

reef wharf
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top 3 worst ones for me are underworld customs, routine inspection, and approval process

severe flower
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but for low heats there’s usually better alternatives

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definitely

reef wharf
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the extra salt of seeing a boon you wanted with the strike through text

severe flower
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i’d still take underworld customs for the heat over like heightened security but

modern garnet
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AP is emotional torture

severe flower
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all heats you’d wanna avoid

reef wharf
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im still yet to do my 32 heat

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ive tried for a bit but its a pain

severe flower
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32 heat is really hard

brisk trail
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ns

severe flower
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what aspect r u using

reef wharf
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i just want hot skelly statue Sadge

brisk trail
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lmao

modern garnet
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If you could take a second rank of heightened security, would you

severe flower
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no

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traps in tart will do like 100

reef wharf
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200iq

severe flower
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sure footing is great for like 50 heat lol

modern garnet
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Or use arthur's trap blocking ability

severe flower
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insane boon for very high heats

modern garnet
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Do people run arthur high heat?

reef wharf
brisk trail
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what is a good keepsake?

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and also how do u get the meg companion

modern garnet
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acorn

severe flower
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i’ve never tried arthur actually

reef wharf
severe flower
reef wharf
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youll get the companion after that

brisk trail
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alright

severe flower
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it’s like that for every companion btw

brisk trail
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oh which one is the best companion?

severe flower
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meg

brisk trail
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cuz i have the skelly one rn

modern garnet
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Well some companions you have to do favors in order to get

reef wharf
reef wharf
brisk trail
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what does meg do

modern garnet
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Lucky tooth over acorn?

severe flower
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meg does 2500 in a horizontal line

reef wharf
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her spike ability but in a straight line across the field

severe flower
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really quickly

brisk trail
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hjesus

reef wharf
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one shots phase 3 bone snake

severe flower
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i wouldn’t recommend it for lernie

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for like mini bosses, heroes, and hades

brisk trail
severe flower
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i’d use it

reef wharf
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id normally use it for mini boss and hades

brisk trail
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daedalus hammer or pom?

reef wharf
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hammer

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always hammer

severe flower
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really depends on how much ambrosia you put into battie and if you get any extras from wells

reef wharf
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even if its between a boon

brisk trail
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yeah i thought so

reef wharf
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so i normally end runs with spare uses

severe flower
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only pick hammer if you know what u want

modern garnet
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Hammer gives you much more powerful effects but it's important to remember that if you skip an offered hammer you can pretty often get another one. Sometimes you might wanna pick hermes boon over hammer

severe flower
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for quick runs always take mini boss doors and meg unless you’re looking for something specific

reef wharf
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ive never tried this, but can i just pop meg without destroying their armor?

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i keep forgetting to do it

brisk trail
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why am i not healing from darkness pls help me im 30 hp

reef wharf
brisk trail
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AHHHHHHHHHh

grave kayak
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Why does the gun give me 20% more darkness

reef wharf
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its fine just dodge PES_Smart

reef wharf
modern garnet
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You can see what mirror you have selected on the boon screen

grave kayak
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Randomly?

reef wharf
brisk trail
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cant rn im fighting asterius in armor

modern garnet
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Yeah a random weapon gets thirsty

brisk trail
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im so screwed

modern garnet
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He spiiiiin

reef wharf
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or should i damage it first and get it to normal health

severe flower
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uh there’s tech for some mini bosses you have to learn

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for most mini bosses you pop meg immediately

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without damaging them first

reef wharf
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bull and rat mini bosses are the problematic ones right?

brisk trail
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ayoo i beat asterius without losing hp

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im gamer

reef wharf
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and that teleporting one

severe flower
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but for like the gorgon mini boss in asphodel you have to time it

reef wharf
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oh yeah those as well

severe flower
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sneak i think you can just immediately meg

grave kayak
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Ok so for the bond of Charon I got an artifact

brisk trail
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is huge catch good??

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its legendary

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but its just for fishing lol

severe flower
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huge catch is amazing for farming

brisk trail
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oh yeah and also i got dark regeneration

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and im not getting any hp from darkness

grave kayak
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Items from the well have a plus 4. I go with lucky tooth lol

reef wharf
brisk trail
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yeah im not healing from darkness

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is it cuz of my pact of punishment?

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i got 100% lasting consequences

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Yes.

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im stupid

reef wharf
#

this was an important detail that you missed

severe flower
#

i actually run than nowadays since he’s fun to use and i don’t have meg maxed so i don’t know the specifics of meg tech but for theseus and some mini bosses you have to learn tech

brisk trail
#

i thought it was hp only

#

not darkness

reef wharf
#

from healing too

#

if i remember correctly

modern garnet
#

Anything that heals except DD and SD, afaik

reef wharf
#

yeah the healing getes reduced

severe flower
#

it’s from 100 percent lasting consequence

brisk trail
#

whats dd and sd?

severe flower
#

death defiance and idk what sd is

brisk trail
#

stubborn

#

defiance

reef wharf
#

stubborn

#

yeah

severe flower
#

oh yeah

#

i never run stubborn lol

brisk trail
#

aye then what do i do

#

i cant heal

#

should i just give up

severe flower
#

don’t get hit

#

🙂

brisk trail
#

im 26 hp now

reef wharf
#

do your best

#

then try again with 75%

brisk trail
#

wish me luck lol

reef wharf
#

enable god mode PES_Smart

brisk trail
#

im already at elysium do

modern garnet
#

If you had SD you'd be able to heal in every room by dying

#

But um... just do your best champ

severe flower
#

sd is good for very high heats

reef wharf
#

i think the strat is SD with 100% lasting consequences

brisk trail
#

oh

severe flower
#

like 40 heat +

reef wharf
#

SD with 32+ heat

brisk trail
#

lmaoo

severe flower
#

sd is good

reef wharf
#

youll be getting smashed way too many times at high heat

brisk trail
#

im just saving up money to get death defiance

#

refresh

reef wharf
#

so might as well have 30 deaths defiances

brisk trail
#

how

reef wharf
#

stubborn defiance

#

you basically have 1 extra life per room

severe flower
#

also athena’s dd boons have funny interactions with stubborn lol

reef wharf
#

ive never tested it

#

what happens?

reef wharf
signal aspen
#

You just get a dd

severe flower
#

it’s important to note that your stubborn triggers first on top of that

reef wharf
#

i thought athena's dd boons only restored the ones you lost

#

or is it another mechanic when youre using sd

grave kayak
#

U unlock a move that does that from the mirror?@reef wharf

reef wharf
#

the death's defiance/stubborn defiance?

signal aspen
brisk trail
#

nooooooooo

#

i was lookinig at the emojis

#

for this discord server

#

and there was an f10 emoji

#

i tried it in game

#

now my screen is black

reef wharf
#

bamboozled

signal aspen
#

Uhhh

#

Thats just how you are supposed to submit bugs

brisk trail
#

why is my screen black lol

signal aspen
#

F10 is a bug

brisk trail
#

great

#

now i gotta reset

reef wharf
#

ironic that the man experienced a bug through the bug reporting system

signal aspen
#

Press f10 to submit it

brisk trail
#

haha

#

im spamming it

#

it is doing nothing

reef wharf
#

how does one submit a bug like that now pepega

modern garnet
#

It must have opened a bug reporting window

#

Close that window

reef wharf
#

check your tabs

#

something else probably opened

brisk trail
#

i closed hades already

#

but ty for help

olive smelt
#

The rail gun is hot garbage.

modern garnet
#

The rail feels bad at first but I promise it gets good when you learn to use it

olive smelt
#

I need ammoooo

modern garnet
#

.... the bullets really hit a lot less hard then you would expect em to huh

#

There's a infinite ammo hammer :)

olive smelt
#

Oh that sounds beautiful

modern garnet
#

Also you can reload while moving which is a lot more reliable

uncut dagger
#

also dropping a bomb while reloading is good, ensures that you get some damage in

clear oasis
olive smelt
#

Hecc I'ma get off and play skyrim-

modern garnet
#

No guns in skyrim tho....

olive smelt
#

I mean...

#

Crossbow sortaaa...?

#

Nah..

#

Theres mods 0w0, but mods aren't always good feeling..

brisk trail
#

the aspect where it empowers ur shot after u reload is so good

#

cuz u can just shoot then reload

tight cave
# modern garnet There's a infinite ammo hammer :)

Something to note though if anyone is planning on rail speedrunning, I think that hammer (delta chamber unless there's another I'm forgetting) slows down your rate of fire. Although that might just be a feeling.

brisk trail
#

and do 150 damage

signal aspen
grave kayak
#

Yea I got the burst fire unlimited ammo thing and you dash and have an insane fire rate

brisk trail
#

is using cheat engine on hades ok?

#

just trying to increase my gold

signal aspen
#

No

brisk trail
#

🥺

signal aspen
brisk trail
#

yeah bro

#

i mean hades is single player

signal aspen
#

Yeah

#

Why do you want extra gold?

#

Do you always have 0?

rapid forum
#

Hoarding slash

#

Hmmm

#

I should do hoarding slash run

modern garnet
#

hoarding slash really reframes the whole game...

#

would you rather deal 25 extra damage per hit, or have a third hermes boon

rapid forum
#

Deeps all the way

modern garnet
#

well, some hermes boons increase dps!

#

like swift strike i guess, hmm

#

you'd have to do some pretty awful math to figure out the odds that hermes would improve your dps

grave kayak
#

I wana buy that titan blood at the end of the game but I always spend it on boons

#

And I never have 1200

#

How do I change my color for my name lol

brisk trail
#

aspect of deez?

modern garnet
#

no, don't!

#

generally you can buy the end titan blood when you feel like your build would beat the boss anyway

#

like, when you feel like your build is good enough already

paper flame
#

Is hades comming to xbox or ps ?

signal aspen
paper flame
#

😥

grave kayak
#

I thought it was on ps4

signal aspen
grave kayak
#

So @modern garnet you're telling me to not go for it?

modern garnet
#

depends how confident you are in your build:
my build is perfect, cannot be improved = buy blood
my build is almost perfect, I'm missing a boon or 2 = don't buy blood
my build sucks so much, nothing could save this build = buy blood

clear oasis
#

LMAO good way to put it

brisk trail
#

what is technique for beating hades with max technique?

#

in other words how do u beat him when hes at his third regen

carmine ravine
#

Kill him again

brisk trail
#

ty

modern garnet
#

don't get hit, if you lose too much health you might lose the game

brisk trail
#

ye[

pallid notch
brisk trail
maiden jolt
#

People really do blind runs of Hades skipping all the dialogue sajamDelay

brisk trail
humble lotus
#

Do hammers count as boons?

#

For the sisyphus keepsake?

brisk trail
#

No.

#

You need a "___" Strike, Flourish, or Shot boon that occupies the chart on the left side of the screen during an Escape Attempt.

humble lotus
#

Ah just wanted to check

waxen solstice
#

So, I saw something I haven't seen before. The Urns of Value, aren't they always gold in color? I found one earlier that was blueish in color

rapid forum
#

Not always

brisk trail
#

They will rarely come in that light blue.

waxen solstice
#

It didn't seem to have any different amount, which is what I assumed it meant. I thought it'd have more money if it were intentional, since it was pretty well camoflauged. Weird

#

Any cultural significance, or some mythological reference?

craggy barn
waxen solstice
#

Aahhh. I found the same effect here, next to a red fire

craggy barn
#

mmm

#

4 gold urns though

#

pog

rapid forum
#

Indeed

waxen solstice
#

Wasn't mine, sadly out_of_cluck

rapid forum
#

It could be yours

#

One day

#

Maybe

#

If the rng is on your side

rare gust
#

I've found 4 in a room, but not like that

waxen solstice
#

It will be eventually. 65 runs in, haven't even been playing but for maybe two weeks now, no signs of stopping

rare gust
#

Also I've decided my weapon aspects

waxen solstice
#

Unless work picks back up, I've been taking my switch with me.

rare gust
#

||Arthur, Hades, Zeus, Rama, Demeter, and Lucifer (pray to get Triple Bomb)||

rapid forum
#

Ooooooh

#

||Hades aspect||

#

Controversial

#

Nothing wrong with it

#

Just rare

rare gust
#

I dislike Achilles

#

Fight me

rapid forum
#

It's hammer dependent

#

You need quick spin

rare gust
#

Not I don't

#

I need LARGER SPIN

#

Use spin in between waves, it'll hit them all with PS, then murder them before none is the wiser

modern garnet
#

I also dislike Achilles aspect but... maybe what I really want is zag aspect spear

rapid forum
#

Zag spear is fine

#

Boomstick special on zag spear hits hard

#

Also achilles makes some nasty cast damage

modern garnet
#

When I feel like spinning i do gy

humble lotus
#

Is there a way to gaurentee to not get a boon first room

rapid forum
#

No, it's RNG.

#

You doing boonless?

humble lotus
#

Trying

craggy barn
#

you can just sell it

rapid forum
#

You can't really avoid boons honestly

#

Get at max 3 boons and then sell it later on

craggy barn
#

if you HAVE to get a boon, you can just take a boon that you can not benefit from

#

say if you get an attack boon, you can just not use attack

#

you can also use fated authority to roll away boons

humble lotus
#

I tried that i think sometimes rooms are locked to be a boon

craggy barn
#

miniboss rooms are always gonna give boons

#

you can't roll them away, you just have to deal with it

brisk trail
#

ares or posiedon??

#

for trial of the gods

rapid forum
#

poseidon is easier to dodge

brisk trail
#

holy smokes

#

i can dash 3 times with blade rift

#

and i have 5 casts with blade rift

#

and my call is one massive blade rift

rapid forum
#

Ah yes

#

Beyblade of war build

modern garnet
#

I should build that one day...

rapid forum
#

Let it rip

opaque radish
#

What's the best way to guide the game's seed to giving boons specific to one god?

#

obviously use the keepsakes

modern garnet
#

When the rift is blade 0⌣0

#

To optimize for a single God you gotta learn about the God Pool

brisk trail
#

for trial of the gods

modern garnet
#

Nah trial doesn't affect odds

brisk trail
#

oh really

opaque radish
#

I was thinking the same thing

brisk trail
#

oh yeah i forgot to mention

#

i had aspect of guan yo

#

yu

opaque radish
#

I've just never noticed a boon rarity difference with either god

brisk trail
#

which makes a blade rift kinda

opaque radish
#

I'm trying to do as many with poseidon as I can (I'm in endgame with 10-20 heats per weapon)

brisk trail
#

yes poseidon is good

#

as well as ares

#

try to get a duo imo

opaque radish
#

yeah I didn't like posidon until I got aspect of Hera

#

then I was like oh, sure, 3 casts with knockback? lol

brisk trail
#

op

opaque radish
#

I'm on 18 heat with Coro/Hera but can't get EM4 Hades down

modern garnet
#

If you get a boon from a God, the God is added to your God Pool. If your God Pool has less than 4 Gods in it, when the game decides to give you a boon, it will pick a random God. If your God Pool has 4 or more Gods, the game will only give you boons from those Gods (unless you have a keepsake from a god that's not in your pool)

opaque radish
#

right, and then theres Hermes and Daedalus which are separate

modern garnet
#

Basically, if you want the most chances to get a God's boons, you want to get 4 Gods as fast as possible, so that every time you get a boon, there's a 1/4 chance it's from the God you want

brisk trail
#

is there an upgrade which makes ur cast do doom?

opaque radish
#

ooh nice cake

modern garnet
#

This might be wrong, but it sounds right

#

Also if you want more powerful boons it's important that you fill out all your core boons

#

Also no I don't think you can get your cast to do doom

brisk trail
#

have u seen zagreus genderbend art

#

it's interesting to see zagreus as a woman

brisk trail
reef wharf
#

hades has kicked my “a word PES5_PepeG “ at 32 heat too many times

#

my sanity is diminishing slowly

rapid forum
#

you'll get 'im next time

stiff musk
#

have you tried 31 heat

unborn remnant
#

hello hades fans

signal aspen
#

hello

stiff musk
#

hello

rigid crane
#

Hello

#

Early access is the best duo perk IMO

signal aspen
#

epic early access

rigid crane
#

Probably the best boon in the game

signal aspen
#

bruh what is early access

rigid crane
#

Literally making every boon epic + is a great boon

#

Makes every boon u find after it epic +

signal aspen
#

bruh

#

thats exclusive access

rigid crane
#

Aah

#

Anyways

#

It’s still a really good boon

#

Even if I frogot the name

signal aspen
#

yeah its a good boon

rigid crane
#

I got it at the very start of my last run

#

Went all the way to hades but died

#

Does so much dmg and his atk patterns are whack

signal aspen
#

what do you get hit by?

#

his spins?

rigid crane
#

Yes

rigid crane
signal aspen
#

yes

#

yes

#

the spin is easy to dodge

rigid crane
#

I mean, it was my first time

signal aspen
#

oh

rigid crane
#

And I got him to like 3/4 hp

signal aspen
#

when he spins theres a big white circle around him

rigid crane
#

Ik that

#

It’s when he goes invis and shoots out the skulls

signal aspen
#

just kill the skulls

rigid crane
half zephyr
rigid crane
#

Yea

#

The later in the run you are, the worse it is

#

But holy

#

E.A at the very start

#

WOOOOO

half zephyr
rigid crane
#

I would take e.a over literally anything else at the start of a run

signal aspen
rigid crane
#

did I stutter

signal aspen
#

huge catch is the best boon

half zephyr
#

Huge catch forever

rigid crane
#

E.A gang

signal aspen
#

helps me get resources

#

which i will never use

#

great boon

half zephyr
#

Very important indeed

#

Gives me more fishing spots I can forget to use

signal aspen
#

gives me more fishing spots that i will fail

craggy barn
#

ah yes, huge catch

#

can't wait to ignore like 7 fishing spots

half zephyr
#

Huge Catch \0/
pogfish

#

Why do I have that emoji anyways

#

Need to find out which server that is

signal aspen
#

it might be team rocket

#

idk

#

probably not

half zephyr
#

It was

#

Ty

#

Not that easy to check on mobile hehe
Have to look through all servers in emoji tab sigh

grave kayak
#

Those fishing sequences are weird I saw the boober go down, I pressed r and it said miss. I'm like...no?

half zephyr
#

Yes

half zephyr
#

It’s when you see a flash & hear a noise

#

Fish like to nibble a bit before they bite down hehe

grave kayak
#

Ah

#

I saw that too but it went under completely lol I'm like nooo

signal aspen
rigid crane
#

Mhm

signal aspen
#

and if you get crystals, the beams will shoot at him even when he is invis

low jay
#

Sure footing can reduce poison and magma?

half zephyr
#

Poison isn’t a trap

#

Magma is

rose ibex
#

there's an achievement that I honestly dont know what to do, its that one that you have to kill 10000 enemies, the thing is I already did that, and Ares didnt talk about it, and the prophecy doesnt even show up on that prophecies thing

#

I mean, is my game bugged or sth?

hollow jetty
#

You can do something about it i think

#

Go to the contractor and buy on the bed chamber section the thing with water inside ,when you interact with it it shows you how many foes you ve killed

rose ibex
#

yeah I already have it

hollow jetty
#

Does it say you killed more than 10000 enemies?

rose ibex
#

yeah

#

23000

hollow jetty
#

Well that's wierd...

#

Sorry I can't help ya

rose ibex
#

ok

trail plover
#

I have a new hate for the gorgon mini boss.

signal aspen
half zephyr
#

Meandusa

uncut dagger
#

yeah that boss is poodoo

trail plover
#

I hate that it just stuffs itself into the back corner where all of the lava is.

#

So god forbid you use a sword or literally any other melee weapon.

#

Then the boon spawns over the lava, too.

#

😩

half zephyr
#

2 words

#

Ranged Cast

#

Can’t help w the boon tho

#

Do Arthur

signal aspen
#

well when you pick up a boon in the lava you take no damage

half zephyr
#

Sigil to the rescue

uncut dagger
#

A: not everyone has that
B: Ranged Casts are limited, especially if you don't have Stygian Soul on

signal aspen
#

yeah

#

nobody has a cast

half zephyr
#

The stone returns to you, it just takes forever

uncut dagger
#

well then that's a problem

#

it takes forever

signal aspen
#

ive never actually had that problem tho

half zephyr
#

Same

uncut dagger
#

the pacing is GRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINDED to a halt as you watch the dumb Gorgon float there waiting for the bloodstones to come back to you

trail plover
#

The cast can be a nice option with the right boons.

half zephyr
#

Meandusa is annoying, but she doesn’t go into the lava too often

trail plover
#

I'm playing a new save file so I don't have the mirror maxed out yet.

signal aspen
#

all flying enemies in this game are annoying

signal aspen
gleaming nacelle
#

@loud valve Yeah but i want to try it

loud valve
#

Yeah if you just want to explore it no problem 😄

high island
#

@trail plover if you move away from it, it will come back to get into firing range.

trail plover
#

Sometimes moving a way does help, but it doesn't change that it will still make the slow crawl back if I don't kill it quick enough. 😅

high island
#

Always helps because it wants to move into firing distance. Also, positioning yourself between the magma and the Megagorgon will keep it over land.

signal aspen
#

i figured out a cheese for that miniboss

#

i found out if i press escape and then press give up i dont have to fight that boss anymore

vapid narwhal
#

😆 that thing is currently the biggest 32 killer for me

#

(yes I still havent got it)

gilded pollen
#

anyone knows if the devs are going to add more content for Hades? just wondering

#

👀

vapid narwhal
#

likely not

high island
#

Now that Early Access is over, what's next?
Once we're sure our v1.0 launch has settled, our small team will be taking a break to recharge, and plan what's next. We'll be excited to say more about what's in store for us just as soon as we're ready.

tight cave
#

The normal Megagorgon miniboss is fine imo, the EM2 version is pain. It's not even the gorgon itself that makes it so bad, it's that dang Skull-Crusher.

signal aspen
#

ah yes

#

em2 gorgon

tight cave
#

Why does it have a wave attack

manic bobcat
#

it's a shockwave

#

dash out and in, and hope you don't get tagged by a stray medusa stone thing.

vapid narwhal
#

I'm fine with it when I'm not on a high stress run like 32+

#

but when I only have one life and likely coming in with not plenty of HP

tight cave
vapid narwhal
#

on non MM they are fine

#

with a good build you can probably take care of the megagorgon fairly easily

half zephyr
#

EM is just end bosses, right?

#

It’s MM they mean?

signal aspen
#

yeah

half zephyr
#

...

manic bobcat
#

In speedrunning, health is a resource. Use it.

brisk trail
#

MM really only comes into speedrunning in 32+.

grave kayak
#

@signal aspen little late to the party lol but yea you can see his dashes too he does that while invisible too

#

I'm like oh that's super helpful lol

rare gust
#

What happens if you pick up the anvil without any hammers?

half zephyr
#

get random hammers? nyaShrug

rare gust
#

So just two random ones still huh?

half zephyr
#

what else would it do?

simple blaze
#

i’d assume you just wouldn’t be able to use it

half zephyr
#

don't think I've gotten the anvil w 0 hammers yet myself

modern garnet
#

Hammerless run........... unthinkable

half zephyr
#

oh I've had those

#

cuz bad rng & choices hehe

#

when you accidentally pass up the hammer 1 too many times & then you don't have the money to buy it when it shows up in the shop

#

sad

mild fulcrum
#

Hey so Im not sure but isnt it technically possible to basically just "skip" asphodel

#

If rng is nice enough to you

brisk trail
#

If you get very lucky with shops, fountain rooms, and the NPC room, you can shave Asphodel down pretty well.

half zephyr
#

you can't skip entirely tho

mild fulcrum
#

I know aspodel has 6 rooms

#

Fountain room mid shop those special character thingy room chaos room

#

Thats 4

half zephyr
#

huh

mild fulcrum
#

I dont know if the final shop also counts or not

half zephyr
#

"Asphodel is the second biome Zagreus encounters during his escape attempts, and is always 10 chambers long"

mild fulcrum
#

Wait its 10

#

🗿

half zephyr
#

yes

#

start at 16, boss at 25

#

or something

#

ends at 25 at least

#

boss might be 24

modern garnet
#

Asphodel feels short because its ezpz just don't dash too far

half zephyr
#

mhmm

#

asphodel always feels too short, yet too long

modern garnet
#

God... imagine if chaos had a curse where your dashes would be a different length every time

half zephyr
#

depending on room & enemy luck

brisk trail
#

[Remembers Stabbing]

mild fulcrum
#

Welp nvm then

#

I was never here

brisk trail
#

I really think Asphodel could have used one more room and Elysium one fewer, but we're long past that point.

half zephyr
#

I'd never feel safe again

#

if I couldn't count on my dashes

#

I don't mind them being shorter, but randomized

shudder

mild fulcrum
#

Also I dont really like asphodel the lava is annoying those thwombs just egh

half zephyr
#

those what?

mild fulcrum
#

Uhhh

modern garnet
#

The skull crushers

mild fulcrum
#

Those

half zephyr
#

aah

#

they die so fast

mild fulcrum
#

Yeah but they always feel so time consuming

half zephyr
#

they do?

#

I've been playing wrong it seems

modern garnet
#

50% of the time you can't hit them

half zephyr
#

I usually don't have to hit them too often - status effects takes care of them

#

I tend to just focus on the other guys when they're in the air

#

if they drop then I'll hit them ofc

modern garnet
#

It can get a frustrating if your build is a bit low on damage

half zephyr
#

aah, ye

mild fulcrum
#

But there are some rooms where you only get 1 enemy and thats the skull crusher

#

And you have to wait till he comes down and

half zephyr
#

I tend to go more towards glass cannon I guess ia_think_thonk

I only take hearts if I'm forced to by the game

#

I get extra max hp from darkness if I pick a darkness trove or end up w a darkness room too

mild fulcrum
#

Nah

modern garnet
#

I dunno if "bonus max hp" comes from darkness troves actually

mild fulcrum
#

Its 1 enemy you kill them

#

Then more spawn

#

And so on

#

I cant explain well

half zephyr
modern garnet
#

Oh yeah it doesn't make round numbers lmao

half zephyr
#

I've been playing on my training file for a while so I haven't had my beloved upgrade for a while

modern garnet
#

I tend to pick hearts over poms tbh

mild fulcrum
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Since Im always trying to beat my record its automatically poms for me now

half zephyr
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I just feel like it's a waste if I pick a heart most of the time

mild fulcrum
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Getting that extra damage to kill the enemies faster is nice

half zephyr
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mhm

modern garnet
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Are you always happy with your poms?

half zephyr
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ye

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I mean, I picked those boons for a reason so I don't mind them getting better..

modern garnet
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A heart always gives you SOMETHIN whereas my poms end up hitting the least good boons I have

half zephyr
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my poms tend to go for attack, special or dash

mild fulcrum
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Well most of the time I only have 3 or 4 boons that can be upgraded with a pom

half zephyr
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sometimes it's on a bonus effect, cast or call

mild fulcrum
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So I get what I need most of the tine

half zephyr
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like if I get urge to kill it'll usually be an option to pom it

mild fulcrum
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Uhhh

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Is it the ares one where you get +10%

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In attack

half zephyr
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+10% dmg to attack, special, cast

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if I remember right

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Ye

half zephyr
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and if I get pressure points that usually ends up in the pom pool