h1-discussion

[half zephyr]

It’s just that part

[burnt bluff]

but i didn't

cause it's too good

ah yes, a fellow man of culture

artemis > all female

[high island]

Just a lot of practice, study boon trees, ask for build suggestions, try to help others with builds, maybe watch some runs on YouTube or Twitch, etc.

Sharing ideas and practice go a very long way.

[runic sparrow]

I never turned on god mode from the start. I just never feel like I needed it

[half zephyr]

Not all do

But there’s nothing wrong about using it either

[runic sparrow]

yeah, I get why it's there

[half zephyr]

It’s just another part of the game

[upbeat lodge]

What are fun bow aspects? My problem is that i cant keep my distance

[signal aspen]

i didnt turn on god mode because i wanted the full hades exprience

[signal aspen]

chiron

[runic sparrow]

and honestly, it's probably the most fitting use of 'god mode' in a game I've seen

[half zephyr]

Mhmm

[signal aspen]

but chiron is not that good when it is at a low level

also if you cant keep your distance from enemies then maybe bow isnt the weapon for you

[high island]

I think all the bow aspects can be fun. Zag Bow can be bland after a few runs, but every once in awhile it's fun and good practice.

[brisk trail]

This 16 heat guan 1 run has still been beating my ass

though i have discovered that having dio attack looks really cool on the spin

[granite ether]

yo @burnt bluff would you mind sending me a screenshot of the 'essay' amounting to "please gift game" you received to me please

[high island]

#h1-discussion message

There it is.

[granite ether]

ty ^_^

[brazen lagoon]

What're you gonna do with that screenshot 👀

[half zephyr]

And poof

[brazen lagoon]

Nice

[upbeat lodge]

Do i use the 40 % rare chance or the extra percent room chance?

[signal aspen]

what are you going for

[acoustic quartz]

dark foresight is usually the better option

[upbeat lodge]

Because you want in run rewards?

[signal aspen]

if you dont know what build you are going for then you should take the green

[brisk trail]

@burnt bluff based name

[signal aspen]

ok

[upbeat lodge]

What do you mean what am i going for

[signal aspen]

are you going for any specific builds

[upbeat lodge]

No, i mean in general

[signal aspen]

then green is better

[half zephyr]

Dark foresight will make the gold laurel rooms appear more often which is better for general runs

If you’re doing collection runs then the 40% rare is better

Cuz more blue laurel rooms

Or, normal amount

[signal aspen]

i feel like dark foresight never helps me

[half zephyr]

Moar boons

[signal aspen]

i get the same amount of gold rooms without and with dark foresight

[half zephyr]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/546456562433130509/825779376846012506/image0.png

[signal aspen]

i know what they do

[half zephyr]

Moar boooons

That’s what I noticed

[signal aspen]

i dont feel a difference

[half zephyr]

Just moar boons compared to the rare chance one

[manic moat]

more stuff that affects your run rn instead of the currency stuff

which also eventually has stuff that helps you in game but not as much

I do miss the key rerolls tho

[brisk trail]

olympian favour vs dark foresight is just quality vs quantity

take your pick which one you like more

[upbeat lodge]

Should i save ambrosia and diamonds or buy blood?

[signal aspen]

kinda depends on what you are going for

if you want a companion right now then save nectar and ambrosia

if you have no idea what that is then buy blood

[upbeat lodge]

Ik what a companion is

Also i made a mistake

[signal aspen]

oh

diamonds are kinda useless early game

[upbeat lodge]

What's early game

[signal aspen]

pre escape

[upbeat lodge]

I beat hades over 10 times

[signal aspen]

or pre ending

have you seen the epilogue

[upbeat lodge]

Yes

If you mean the in the blood one

[signal aspen]

no

[upbeat lodge]

Then yes

[signal aspen]

diamonds are useless

you can buy work orders but i feel like if you have seen the epilogue then you dont have any more work orders

you can buy music if you like it

other than that there is no use for diamonds

i see them as free ambrosia

[upbeat lodge]

How do i screenshot my screen tearing? I can't get the timing right

[signal aspen]

i think you have to have good timing

[rare hull]

Time it like a perfect catch!

[signal aspen]

i legit have never gotten a perfect catch

[upbeat lodge]

I cant get it right

[signal aspen]

just do it better

[brisk trail]

hi

[signal aspen]

hi

[brisk trail]

im new

i just joined today

[signal aspen]

cool

[brisk trail]

[signal aspen]

bruh what

[upbeat lodge]

What's a good heat progression

[signal aspen]

when you start 5 heat is a good goal, then 8, 10, 12, 16, 20, 25, 30 or 32

[upbeat lodge]

No im what punishments in what order

[signal aspen]

start with EM1 then EM2 then do TD1

then do any of the ones at the top

and MM

[brisk trail]

td1 is free and td2 is very achievable

[dusky wedge]

Start with TD1 and practice playing with a timer on, or just put the timer settings on. Stuffs like pausing the game at every single door, not dilly-dallying around chambers looking for stuffs you think is there, etc will all come as second nature in no time if you actually have a timer on. TD1 can be completed without even pausing (as long as you didn’t literally left the game to make tea or something)

[signal aspen]

TD1 is 36 minutes total and 9 minutes per floor

and if you run out of time then you will lose 5 health per second

[upbeat lodge]

I'm up to heat 6 but i had God mode so it feels cheated

[dusky wedge]

It’s fine, God Mode is fine

[half zephyr]

God mode is a part of the game too

[hasty owl]

it is absolutely not cheating

[half zephyr]

There’s nothing wrong about using it

[hasty owl]

i played with god mode for a good few weeks

it actually really helped me improve

it’s like training wheels

you might not want them forever, but they’re really really helpful while you’re learning

or at least that’s how i see it

[acoustic fog]

But when i'm new i'm don't open it because normal it's hard but i like to learning things new

(I hate my grammar )

[half zephyr]

I just view god mode as another part of the game - like hell mode

It’s there, it exists, and if you want to use it it’s up to you

[acoustic fog]

You right but first time i see god mode i think when i open it Hades'll tell YOU SUCC

[half zephyr]

He doesn’t even comment on it

[viscid quail]

God made is totally not cheating. With it on, you can't do high heat and stuff. It's an early game feature to get you on your feet

I used it until I got my first win

[viscid quail]

He always says that

[acoustic fog]

Yeah he was that

[signal aspen]

god mode was made to help players progress into the story

[north radish]

Do all of you think the're gonna make a Hades DLC?

[signal aspen]

pretty sure they said no

[fast laurel]

i think the game is fine by itself

[signal aspen]

i just want something to be added into the game

mainly new aspects or something

[acoustic fog]

I think i like free content if they have it

But mainly game is too good

[north radish]

Yeah that would be awesom

[signal aspen]

the reason i dont want dlc is because i dont want to pay

[north radish]

i mean i love the game

[acoustic fog]

About if they have new weapon i like to be hammer idk

Or meg's weapon

[upbeat lodge]

Are there any mods that add an endless mode? I want to do the op stuff but longer

[acoustic fog]

If it new update it kinda nice

[sharp dust]

why are aspects so expensive to max out 😫

[acoustic fog]

If you do more heat it's can max out easier (I trade bottle for blood it made me max out zeus shield so fast)

[sharp dust]

i increase my heat each run :/

[upbeat lodge]

You get 3.5 blood per win on a new heat per weapon

[sharp dust]

i want the blood i spent on zag bow back

[gray apex]

lol

I love that bow

[sharp dust]

fists ❤️

i haven't even gotten the reqs for the hidden aspects yet as i don't wanna spread out my blood and have a bunch of bad aspects

[viscid quail]

lol because you know what's coming

I think there's a lot of good options in other aspects

charon's bow is really worth the blood

[grand crystal]

Chiron is a very nice bow but yea it’s a heavy investment

[grand shale]

Hera is best bow

[grand crystal]

I’m a Rama enjoyer

[grand shale]

Idk why but I can't seem to do well with rama

[rare hull]

Haven't unlocked that aspect yet. Is there any prerequisite?

[grand shale]

All other bow aspects I guess

[stone remnant]

do we have any new info on hades like dlc, updates, maybe a sequel? that would be so awesome

[grand shale]

And you have to get the waking phrase from artemis

[sharp dust]

supergiant games doesn't do dlcs

most we're gonna get are balance patches

no content

[grand shale]

I want all that stuff desperately but it's probably never coming

[stone remnant]

I'm sure they wouldn't be 100% opposed to the idea

[grand shale]

^^^

[grand crystal]

there will most likely not be any DLC, Hades is the biggest game SGG has released and they're probably burnt out on it- but also adding something would be difficult due to it most likely breaking the storyline- think of it like a finished puzzle that you can't add pieces to without cutting the already-placed pieces.

Like

Really don’t get your hopes up

[stone remnant]

yeah this is such an awesome ip, it would be a shame to just end it here

[sharp dust]

we're getting hades 2 for 2025

[grand shale]

Fr fr I wanna see the surface explored more in some way

[grand crystal]

You need to have guan you already available then put at least 5 blood into bow and talk to Artemis for the waking phrase

[grand shale]

We'd better

[grand crystal]

Zag physically can’t leave tho -_-

Like

[grand shale]

Yeah he can

If you stand in the Styx you live

[stone remnant]

well at one point hades was in olympus wasn't he? before he was bound to the underworld

[grand crystal]

But Styx isn’t everywhere

[grand crystal]

Yea but he is now

[grand shale]

Plus they could just make up some kind of nonsense to allow him to leave

[stone remnant]

what if the game explored how to break that curse/or circumvent it

[grand shale]

Like some kind life preserver machine

[grand shale]

Yeess

[stone remnant]

Persephone could leave

[sharp dust]

zag was revived by boodoo magic linking him to the underworld more closely than even hades

[grand shale]

Supergiant take notes please

[rare hull]

Got both Guan-yu and Zag's bow maxed, I guess. To Artemis then.

[grand crystal]

Persephone isnt bound

[stone remnant]

do we know why zag is bound?

[grand crystal]

||Because he was never meant to be alive||

And he’s the son hades

So it passed to him

[stone remnant]

yeah and i thought maybe cause he is son of her then he would have some leeway

or smth idk

[grand shale]

Hm ye

[stone remnant]

imm not an english major

rofl

[half zephyr]

Persephone isn’t bound cuz she’s an Olympian

[grand crystal]

The fates are cruel :3

[stone remnant]

mmaybe in hades 2 we can kick the fates in the nuts

[half zephyr]

She’s one of the surface gods, not the chthonic ones

[sharp dust]

daddy chaos would need to intervene

[grand shale]

The fates are all women

[stone remnant]

women have nuts

[sharp dust]

chaos where u at

[grand shale]

What

[echo halo]

i think i missed close to10 fishing points by now

eck

[grand shale]

How do women have nuts

[stone remnant]

im just messing

[sharp dust]

in their throat

[grand shale]

Lol

[sharp dust]

throat nut

[stone remnant]

their eve's apple

[grand shale]

[sharp dust]

in hades 2 zag gets to fight and bond with scandinavian deities

u heard it here first boys

[half zephyr]

Hope not

I’m done w the Nordics

[amber kraken]

I like Odin. But only Odin

He can be a special aspect

[stone remnant]

what if hades 2 was just us playing hypnos and taunting zags attempts lMAO

[amber kraken]

Id buy that

[stone remnant]

man, I see people have made mods for hades but I am a switch user

[grand crystal]

I mean you can mod the switch

It’s just a process iirc

[stone remnant]

yeah but I don't want to get my switch banned

[sharp dust]

idk how complex mods in hades can get

not every game is skyrim

[grand crystal]

Not that complex from what I’ve heard

Since the files are in a way that makes it hard to

[stone remnant]

regardless it's against the policy or whatever and nintendo if they find out, can render ur switch useless

[grand crystal]

You see that’s why you get a backup

[sharp dust]

thats ur first mistake

giving nintendo money

[grand crystal]

And make sure they don’t find out

[stone remnant]

money

[stone remnant]

true

[grand crystal]

Steal it

[stone remnant]

ahhh but of course, how foolish of me, how did I forget I could resort to kleptomancy

become a lil kleptomaniac

for moding hades 😩

[sudden patrol]

imo dio looks the coolest on chiron special

looks like ghost arrows or something

[grand crystal]

Dios effect is very pretty

[stone remnant]

idk how ppl use the bow

it feels so slow

[grand crystal]

It’s not :/

[sudden patrol]

Chiron makes it speedy

[grand crystal]

Chiron is one of the slower aspects

[sudden patrol]

but Rama makes it hit like a monkey on a drug induced rampage

rama's damage makes up for it's speed tenfold

[grand crystal]

And even then it still is fast

[stone remnant]

my fav aspect is zag sword

[grand crystal]

Some speed runners use Rama

[stone remnant]

what can I say, I am quirky like that

[sudden patrol]

My first weapon used to be the spear

then i started to use the fists and the gun

but now i only really use chiron/rama

[stone remnant]

malphon fists are second favourite

[burnt bluff]

sword gang rise up

[stone remnant]

with the hidden aspect

the maimm thing

[sudden patrol]

Here's my list: Bow, Fists, Gun, Spear, Sword, Shield

[grand crystal]

I only really like dem fist for fist

[burnt bluff]

i don't care about the hidden aspect

i only care about the life steal effect

[sudden patrol]

Does anyone else use Talos on fists?

[stone remnant]

yess

[burnt bluff]

2hp for 60%

[sudden patrol]

cause i cant play without anything else

[stone remnant]

life steal is so fun

[burnt bluff]

it's a steal

[sudden patrol]

Talos is super good if you have aphro and quake cutter

you can deal like 300 damage super quickly

[grand crystal]

My list is: bow > sword > fist > spear > shield > gun

[sudden patrol]

and drawing enemies in is great

[stone remnant]

y'all unironically like bow wtf

[sudden patrol]

I could never get used to any aspect of the sword other than arthur tbh

[burnt bluff]

or shields with artemis boons

[grand crystal]

Talos is a cast weapon lol

[sudden patrol]

lol the bow is one of the best weapons in the game

[burnt bluff]

basically unkillable

[sudden patrol]

If I'm running cast I go achilles, I like talos cause the suction effect

[stone remnant]

i hate it, the aspects make it bearable but it feels so fckin slow with the charge up thing

[sudden patrol]

Well, literally every zag aspect sucks sooo

[stone remnant]

yeah well I go zoom

[sudden patrol]

It's slow but when it hits it hits

[stone remnant]

and wack people

[sudden patrol]

Once I got like 1.5k damage or more on rama

[stone remnant]

i am there for the adrenaline not to play sniper elite 4

[sudden patrol]

enemies were literally dogwater

[grand crystal]

It’s not slow at all

It has crazy good dps

And just dash attack

Since dash attacking is faster

Like I never normal attack with bow

[sudden patrol]

I never dash attack tbh, I always solely go for attack (or special on chiron)

I've never cleared anything with the zag aspect, but chiron/rama make you godlike

[grand crystal]

Zag aspects are memes

Fist is there for my evade builds

[sudden patrol]

Spear is for ares's cast alone

[stone remnant]

yeah evade build is fun

[grand crystal]

I hit like +200% move speed with zag sword

[sudden patrol]

achilles go brr

are's cast is OP with hunting blades and black metal and achilles and some other stuff

I once had like 3-4k DPS with it

[grand crystal]

Ares cast is just good once you get hunting blades

[sudden patrol]

Hades had no idea what hit him

yeah I also got mirage shot which was hilarious when a sea of red and black just went over to hades and murdered him

here's a video of the massacre (part of it): https://twitter.com/WabbajackSusan/status/1372051948556357632

Susan Wabbajack (@WabbajackSusan)

#NintendoSwitch https://t.co/bm43aq0AjY

▶ Play video

Twitter · Mar 17, 2021, 5:07 AM

skip to like 23 seconds in

[silk radish]

Hera bow was my first clear ever

[burnt bluff]

i don't when they will add Hera

Zeus's wife

aka his sister

[grand crystal]

Mood

I mean like I think there’s an in universe reason of her and the other gods that aren’t included not caring

[half zephyr]

I thought they weren’t siblings in the hades universe

That the brothers were “related”, but not to the girls

[burnt bluff]

Once you have read the cannon

there's no going back

[half zephyr]

That’s why we have Demeter being the child of Hyperion

[half zephyr]

We had that in school

[burnt bluff]

full version?

or a brief

[half zephyr]

That they were all related, yes?

It’s not like it matters since they’re gods

They’re not mortals

No dna

[grand crystal]

Then how do they have kids ._.

That requires dna to transfer

[burnt bluff]

maybe they have the same DNA but built different

[half zephyr]

Athena was literally pulled out of Zeus’ head

[grand crystal]

Ok but like every other one of zeus kids

[viscid quail]

maybe chaos just made it so that they dont have genetic issues

[half zephyr]

She was a migraine in some myths

[grand crystal]

Ok but like he turned into a damn goose once

[viscid quail]

because zeus was def getting busy with mortals and they did have kids

[grand crystal]

Just to get down

[half zephyr]

Which ones? The ones he had with other divine beings, or the ones he had with mortals in animal forms?

Don’t try to put sense into myths

[half zephyr]

Swan

[grand crystal]

Goose idc swans and geese are the same thing tbh

[half zephyr]

Leda & the swan

It’s the name of the painting

And the story

And the statue

[hallow peak]

Oh no

Not the swan

No

Lol

[half zephyr]

I put it al down to them being divine beings so it’s prolly something to do w their power or so

[burnt bluff]

not as bad as the tale of two brothers

[viscid quail]

jesus christ

lesson learned dont look up random stuff you find on discord

[half zephyr]

Which one?

[hallow peak]

Lol he looked up the swan

[viscid quail]

...

[hallow peak]

You poor thing.

Anyone wanna talk about Egyptian history and how the world according to that came from a gods nut

[half zephyr]

We learned about that in school!

[hallow peak]

Like nut not nuts

[half zephyr]

Wrong channel

[hallow peak]

Fair just wanted to interject

[half zephyr]

Hades got nothing to do w Egyptian myth

[grand crystal]

God didn’t in Roman myth Venus came from some gods junk and just the sea foam that came from it

Like

[hallow peak]

Why did I say history

Mythology

[grand crystal]

What the hell were they on

[hallow peak]

Silly me

[half zephyr]

That’s Greek too tho

[hallow peak]

Alot metric ton of incense and wine

[half zephyr]

That’s the birth of Aphrodite

[half zephyr]

Wasn’t from a god either, but Ouranos/Uranus - father of Chronos, grandfather of Zeus

Ouranos was the husband of Gaia

In some myths also her son

[burnt bluff]

well Chaos first then Gaia then the Ouranos

Gaia marries her son

[half zephyr]

It’s all origin stories & there’s so many of them

[burnt bluff]

there's the sea guy whose name i have forgotten

not poseidon

[half zephyr]

Oceanus?

[hallow peak]

Tottaly forgot about uranus’s genitals being severed in the birth of aphrodite

Gave me whiplash

[viscid quail]

greek mythology is like a 50 game series where the lore isn't consistent and so it becomes impossible to folow

#KingdomHearts

[hallow peak]

Its worse or on par with warhammer lol

[viscid quail]

lol

[half zephyr]

It’s not that hard to follow

There’s the most common myths & the lesser known ones

[sudden patrol]

AH if i had privileged status my run would be perfect, since im doing a chiron dio special build and i got the completely chill opponents if I take damage

[hallow peak]

Its just written by like 100 high and drunk people

So most of it gives you whiplash when reading

[half zephyr]

It was their religion

[hallow peak]

Ehh

True sorta

[half zephyr]

Give it a few thousand years & it’ll be our current religions that are the new myths

[half zephyr]

Next time

[hallow peak]

Alot of romans and greek realized how much their gods were mounumental... donut holes

[half zephyr]

I always run PS

[hallow peak]

So they hated them

[burnt bluff]

Religion is very weird and vague

[hallow peak]

And alot of stories makes fun of them

Wanna hear the joke about silphium

[half zephyr]

Doesn’t stop it being their religion

Christianity did that

[viscid quail]

I think some religion is weird and vague

but not all

[half zephyr]

Anyways, I got to go

[viscid quail]

some are pretty straight forward tbh

[hallow peak]

Cya shadow

[half zephyr]

Bai

[hallow peak]

Anyone want to hear the joke about silphium?

[viscid quail]

sure

[hallow peak]

Silphium is a plant that was discovered by rome

This is how best and concise I can describe jt

“As ambrosia was to the gods, silphium was to mortal men”

Silphium was the hottest thing in rome

Theres this story joke that goes like this

The three eldest and greatest gods, Zeus, Poseidon, and Hades, all walk into a bakery

They ask the baker, “Mortal! We require that you make us the finest quality cake that you can offer!”

The baker doesn’t even look at them and just waves his hand saying, “I’m busy come back later”

The gods incredulous say “Mortal! What on all this earthly plane can be more important than we three? More important than a request from the king of the gods?”

“Im making silphium, go away”

Lol

[viscid quail]

lol

mans making Silphium

[hallow peak]

Then it ironically went extinct

[viscid quail]

I have to get me some Silphium

[hallow peak]

Because the romans like their many conquests enjoyed it to the fullest till they exhausted it completely

One of the only plants I can call off the top of my head going extinct by human hands

[viscid quail]

lol that's too bad

Id like to get my hands on some

[runic estuary]

Yo same though damn romans

Stealin greek stuff and eatin all the good plants

[signal aspen]

what

[runic estuary]

Silphium apparently was good stuff

[hallow peak]

Lol

[steady sierra]

hello

Just got ✨Hades ✨ the other day and have been throughly enjoying myself

[burnt bluff]

welcome to hell buddy

remember

[runic estuary]

Literally

[burnt bluff]

artemis is top tier waifu

[signal aspen]

bruh what

[runic estuary]

I agree yes meg is the best

[signal aspen]

nah bouldy is best waifu

[runic estuary]

ah youre right

Solid choice

rock steady

[signal aspen]

cerb #2

[runic estuary]

the most stable option

[burnt bluff]

but we all agree that cerberus is best boi

[signal aspen]

yes

[brisk trail]

than is best waifu

[burnt bluff]

he keeps ks your creeps

[grand crystal]

Yes

[burnt bluff]

it's a no

[brisk trail]

he's so hot tho

[steady sierra]

Is this hell

[burnt bluff]

yes

[steady sierra]

Hot take

Athena is bottom tier trash

[brisk trail]

wrong

[signal aspen]

are we talking about waifu rank or god rank

there is a big difference

[burnt bluff]

waifu of course

[signal aspen]

oh

[steady sierra]

yes

[burnt bluff]

Athena can shield you away from the world

[signal aspen]

but she not hot tho

[burnt bluff]

too proctective

[steady sierra]

although I do feel that deflect is a boring ability

It’s good

in some cases anyway

[half zephyr]

THANK YOU

[runic estuary]

Deflect is one of the best abilities but it basically means youll never get her other ones

[burnt bluff]

if you combine it with dash

no brain strat

[half zephyr]

Athena is the boring option

[steady sierra]

It’s good with Aegis

[runic estuary]

the trap one is good for mitigating the trap+ heat option

[signal aspen]

poseidon can make you wet

[steady sierra]

Destroys Tisiphone

[burnt bluff]

aphrodite can moist you

[runic estuary]

Poseidon wave dash = fun time

[signal aspen]

bruh wtf

[half zephyr]

[brisk trail]

[steady sierra]

Anyway, I got the game the other day, started on Hell Mode

[signal aspen]

go to horny jail

[steady sierra]

Regretted it, and now here I am on a normal file

[runic estuary]

@steady sierra I'm glad youre liking the game, I got it when it was still early access and I was blown away

[burnt bluff]

aren't horny jail full of horny person 😳 ?

[signal aspen]

oh no

[half zephyr]

[steady sierra]

I’ve gotten as far as Theseus

[half zephyr]

Theseus is fun

He gets hilarious the more you win against him

[runic estuary]

AHA YOU BLAGGARD

[steady sierra]

I’ve only fought the duo once

[runic estuary]

They are brutal the first time you fight them

at least they were for me

[burnt bluff]

i mean 2 v1

[steady sierra]

The most fun boss for me so far is probably Tisiphone

[runic estuary]

mur

[signal aspen]

i love fighting the heroes

[steady sierra]

Although Alecto and Meg are also quite fun

[signal aspen]

they make an easy boss fight once you learn how to fight them

[burnt bluff]

i like the datng sim tho

charon was my first unlock

[steady sierra]

Minotaur was fun when I came across the solo battle

[runic estuary]

ah yes charon and his honeyed words

[burnt bluff]

he's the equivalent of the quiet kid in class

[signal aspen]

bruh you dated charon

[steady sierra]

Almost beat Minotaur on first try

[runic estuary]

Minotaur is best to fight first cause he also is weakened for the final fight

[signal aspen]

in the heroees fight you should kill bull first

[burnt bluff]

yeah

[signal aspen]

yeah

[runic estuary]

At least at first

It's easier but slower

[signal aspen]

well i always kill bull first

i get the most satisfaction hearing theseus die

[runic estuary]

tru

[burnt bluff]

if you kill Thesus first, the stage went sicko mode

[steady sierra]

Just looked it up, there are more levels than I thought

[runic estuary]

Favorite is having the charm arrow and making them fight against each other

[burnt bluff]

Try to charm Hades

[signal aspen]

charming bosses isnt that useful, i mainly usee it to stun bosses and not make them fight eachother

[burnt bluff]

so it's a no

trash tier

[steady sierra]

another hot take: Coronacht and Exagryph are my two favorite weapons

[signal aspen]

it is not trash tier

[runic estuary]

well its my arrows and ill do what I want with them

[signal aspen]

but charming bosses does not act the way the devs intended it to

[steady sierra]

I’ve gotten the furthest with Coronacht

[burnt bluff]

shields are op mates

gotta nerf it some day

[steady sierra]

Aegis makes the Hades rooms easy

[runic estuary]

Was the first full run I got was with a shield

[steady sierra]

Just stand in a corner and charge

ezpz

[burnt bluff]

combine artemis boons

unkillable

and deal dmg

[craggy barn]

the shield isn't getting nerfed anytime soon anyways

it already went through balancing in early access

[oblique sun]

i don't think it's too op

it's slow

[steady sierra]

it’s not all that’s great in my experience

I prefer Coronacht

[runic estuary]

nemesis + artemis = crits for DAYS

[steady sierra]

The seeking aspect is nice

for special

[sharp dust]

god how i hate the furries

if its not megan i'm gonna lose a life

[oblique sun]

furies?

megaera?

[sudden patrol]

oh cool

turns out that when i got a diamond from sunken treasure yesterday

i had a 1/1666 chance

[sharp dust]

megan the furry yeah

[sudden patrol]

I have 2 questions

1. What are you smoking

2. where can I buy it

[craggy barn]

??

[sudden patrol]

do you think anybody who's not high would call megaera the fury "megan the furry"

[steady sierra]

I love the Fury battles tbh

[sudden patrol]

I like lernie

[sharp dust]

dunno ask lenny

[steady sierra]

ope

[sharp dust]

lol

[steady sierra]

Tisiphone is fun

[sudden patrol]

Meg is my favorite since they're the most predictable and if I want a good run I don't want alect/tisiphone

[steady sierra]

Alecto is fun, but also a run ended sometimes

Well not now that I have 3 death defiances

[sudden patrol]

I like how zag tries to teach tisiphone to talk

If I use a Death Defiance before at least elysium I abort the run

every time

[sharp dust]

everything was ez until i bumped enemy speed up

[sudden patrol]

I'm not gonna win that run

[sharp dust]

now game has some challenge

[sudden patrol]

FO can burn in hell

especially on chiron/rama

which are my favorite aspects

[steady sierra]

Malphon wasn’t fun until it was

[sudden patrol]

the fists are like 7/10

[steady sierra]

Magnetic aspect makes them much better

[sudden patrol]

bow is 9.5/10

[sudden patrol]

I agree but for some reason nobody else does

get quake cutter early on

that's an easy run

[steady sierra]

It’s good for room clearing

[sharp dust]

my bow does no dmg

my malphite is rock solid

[steady sierra]

Bow good

[sudden patrol]

bow is the best weapon in the game

i dont even have hera aspect unlocked lol

but chiron/rama

[sharp dust]

real men beat u up with their fists

[craggy barn]

if you want a good run you'll probably have to learn how to fight all of them

[sudden patrol]

I can fight them all, but alecto/tisiphone are a pain

[sharp dust]

i just facetank them

if i have good boons i live, if i dont i die

simple

think thats how fists work

[runic estuary]

go with hermes plume and zags fists and just dodge 1 of every 2 hits at minimum

[sharp dust]

no matter how many times u die petroleum from the elysiums recovers all ur lives anyway

[grand swift]

So, I just realized the Hermès Cup was a thing! And I watched it and I felt really motivated by it (even though I’m only a switch player currently). Does 17-18 minutes of game run translate into a decent real time speed run time?

[signal aspen]

petroleum

[signal aspen]

17-18 minutes in game time is like 25 real time

[half zephyr]

Petroleum

[grand swift]

Okay so I gotta learn to shave time off in places speed runners normally would. I don’t take mid shops for example. This is a very nice thing to learn, I’m borderline decent for being able to attempt speed runs. Thanks 😊🙏🏼

[hallow peak]

Alecto maybe, cause she can shred if you aren’t careful but tisiphone is really easy to dodge

[signal aspen]

how long are your runs normally

[hallow peak]

She just goes back and forth

[hallow peak]

Unless you have terrible rng all the time like me then you can’t rely on him

[sharp dust]

bernie fight is more like me vs the lava

[half zephyr]

...

[signal aspen]

lmao

bernie sanders

[grand swift]

I’ve actually never attempted speed running. I just play to play and experiment with builds. I watched the first hermes cup and saw like 22 and 23 minute times overall and I had a 17:30 and thought I could come close in real time. I was just curious on how 17:30 translated to real time before I really try and get a gauge of where I am 😊 appreciate the response!

[hallow peak]

I usually just meet sisyphus and eurydice

[signal aspen]

ok

[hallow peak]

I sometime but not often meet patroclus

[signal aspen]

patroclus never comes when you need him

[hallow peak]

Nope

Except for that one time

When I was graced by rngesus

[sharp dust]

when do we get to marry dusa

[signal aspen]

nah she friendzones you

[sharp dust]

what a tease

[signal aspen]

it is certainly a tease

[modern garnet]

people are allowed to not be into you lmao

[signal aspen]

she likes zag but she doesnt find him attractive

[modern garnet]

he has no snakes on head... I can't blame her

[steady sierra]

I wanna marry Dusa tho

ngl I simp for Eurydice

[signal aspen]

bruh

[steady sierra]

sorry Orpheus but she’s mine now 💅

but then Meg would whip me for adultery 😳

[sharp dust]

megan>all

[signal aspen]

megan

[signal aspen]

this is greek mythology

[steady sierra]

exactly

[manic moat]

megan is probably also off doing adultery

[steady sierra]

she punishes infidelity

[sudden patrol]

@sharp dust Behold, with my bad editing skills: https://imgur.com/a/Gnpr9ll

Megan

[signal aspen]

bruh how you still in this server

[sudden patrol]

What did I do?

[sudden patrol]

?

[signal aspen]

bruh

posting weird images

in unrelated channels

[sudden patrol]

I found some image of someone named megan

they were calling meg megan

so i did what i had to do

[signal aspen]

understandable, have a nice day

[viscid quail]

hey y'all what's the monthy challenge all about?

[signal aspen]

builds and combat pinned messages

[viscid quail]

thx

ohhhh that's super fun

Im totally doing that now

[sharp dust]

8 heats already wow im so good

Kappa

so im thinking of unlocking chiron

only weapon i have so far is demeter

[sharp dust]

ok chiron is super dumb

wtf

[steady sierra]

Chiron is great

😠

[sharp dust]

its op

[winter zinc]

8 heat nice job

[steady sierra]

Especially with special upgrades

[sharp dust]

why play melee when u can have more dps while being ranged...

[woven nacelle]

Guan Yu aspect looks wack tbh

was about to unlock it but 70% health down?

Idk bout that

[half zephyr]

Do it for the prophecy

But maybe only when you can max it

[woven nacelle]

Yeah I got it anyway, I think other aspects can only be unlocked after guan yu

[half zephyr]

Ye

You need GY

[woven nacelle]

The damage kinda good 👀

[sharp dust]

i dont think asterix the manbull is supposed to die in 5 seconds...

[steady sierra]

hm yes

[sharp dust]

wish chiron only tagged foes on perfect shot hit to make it just a tiny little bit more skill reliant lol

this is just a massacre

[deft shell]

You just need to reveal guan yu first. You don't need to actually spend titan blood on it to unlock other aspects

[woven nacelle]

Oh F

[oblique sun]

at level 5 it's -50% HP, but all hidden aspects have alt movesets that can be pretty good. Most people like GY for special but i like spamming spin that heals 1HP/hit with quick spin lmao

but yeah it's not recommended to use it before level 5

[woven nacelle]

Yeah it’s moveset slaps

[oblique sun]

oh you bought it already?

you said "was about to unlock" so i thought you backed off of it lol

[oblique sun]

oop

sowwy

[woven nacelle]

All good lol

[winter zinc]

itll start struggling once there are chambers with more enemies

but for bosses its a shredder

[unborn remnant]

I dont like guan yu

its just super weird to me

cant vibe with it

[oblique sun]

get quick spin and spam it

lul

maybe also divine strike and deadly reversal because yes

[unborn remnant]

fr?

[ionic trail]

how the hell do you clear using rail

i cleared with all weapons now

but rail is a pain to use

i tried the 3 aspects ||not the hidden, still didn't unlock||

and i cant seem to find an effective (let alone enjoyable) build for rail

[grand crystal]

eris with zeus attack

hestia with artemis/aphro attack

those are gonna be the main builds

[ionic trail]

thanks

[deft shell]

Got my first rail clear with the triple bomb + rocket bomb combo...so just pray for that I guess

[grand crystal]

yea preferred hammers on eris are triple/spread and like delta/rocket ig

never really play it but thats what i gathered

and hestia you want either piercing or ricochet

[oblique sun]

oh wait does eris give you more damage if you absorb multiple specials

[grand crystal]

and like hazard for memes and damage

[oblique sun]

i haven't unlocked eris yet lol

[grand crystal]

nope

its a boolean condition

[oblique sun]

alright good

as it should

[grand crystal]

lol eris is good i just dont like it

[unborn remnant]

could you imagine if eris stacked

[oblique sun]

i was just wondering why people like to get stuff that sends multiple specials

[unborn remnant]

larger aoe

less precision required in movement

[oblique sun]

don't you focus on your attack thoo

[unborn remnant]

you shoot until the buff gets applied

Its just "stand in any circle" rather than "stand in this one circle"

get it?

[oblique sun]

eh

[hallow peak]

Lol I was like you. Don’t worry even with memes practice makes perfect

May I suggest gimp

Its like photoshop but free

[oblique sun]

imagine not just using ms paint smhmhmh

[hallow peak]

I used ms paint

[oblique sun]

hcek yeha

[hallow peak]

The qaulity was significantly worde

Hang on

[oblique sun]

yeah but

[hallow peak]

Its gonna be unrelated but let me find it

[oblique sun]

ms paint funny

[hallow peak]

no its too off topic and is inexcusable @oblique sun May I dm you my meme art progress

I am dm'ing you its not offensive and is something funny for you to look at later also I am impatient

[grand crystal]

mood

[unborn remnant]

has anyone cleared max heat

[oblique sun]

yes

seeded though

[brisk trail]

havent beated the game yet

[unborn remnant]

how on earth has someone cleared it

seems insane

[oblique sun]

yep

[sudden patrol]

I beat EM3 pretty easily so im gonna take on EM4 soon

[oblique sun]

||:) ||

[sharp dust]

can i make the garden not look gloomy as hell (pun intended)?

[oblique sun]

stand in it

:3

[sharp dust]

the only emojis i tolerate are :>, :< and :/

[oblique sun]

c:

[sharp dust]

:<

[oblique sun]

|･ω･｀)

[sudden patrol]

////88w88\\\\

[oblique sun]

spiders be like

[sudden patrol]

time to take on EM4

[brisk trail]

Hades for ps4? Anyone?

[oblique sun]

#hades-faq

[unborn remnant]

maybe one day

What aspect do you think has the highest potential

like the highest skill ceiling

[hallow peak]

You know what just struck me as funny

People talk about how charon gets titan blood

But nobody questions the much weaker fat bottom bracket shade, wretched broker how he has a treasure trove of the underworlds most precious items to trade away.

[hallow peak]

I played on it

I somehow got past the first boss then ate dirt

[rapid agate]

nononono

you forget

the worst offender

the cook

[hallow peak]

OH MY GOSH YES

THE COOK

Lol

[rapid agate]

fish from the surface would be like

a rarity

wait actually why is it even a rarity

THERE'S AMBROSIA AND NECTAR

[hallow peak]

The wretched broker could do more damage heaving himself around then with that tiny butchers cleaver

[rapid agate]

HOW??????

they state

ambrosia is stupid rare

and fish yeah is rare but like

not as much as TITAN BLOOD

[hallow peak]

A EXTINCT SPECIES

Well bordering extinct

[rapid agate]

they're all locked up in tartarus, aren't they?

my mythologic greek knowledge is a bit rusty

pardon me if i'm wrong

[hallow peak]

No I think atlas and cronos is supposedly the only ones left

i think

Atlas holding up the world and cronos in tartarus

[rapid agate]

isn't cronos like dead

[hallow peak]

No I think he is alive

You know

Cronos being the titan of time, representing the ravaging nature of time and how it devours all things

He surprisingly doesn’t manipulate time

Like at all

i can’t find any references of him manipulating time

But yeah he was overthrown by his own son zeus and imprisoned in tartarus

@rapid agate

[hallow peak]

https://tenor.com/view/goofys-trial-murder-ill-do-it-again-gif-15434208

Ill do it again

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/810350398069145615/826224086400892938/image0.jpg

[rapid agate]

oh yeah it's fun

absolute hell

but fun

[warped panther]

63 is the max? dang
we need one more condition that has 3 tiers of +2 heat

[hallow peak]

i lasted way less longer this time

Despite having less benefits than before

I got through 3 rooms

Last time I made it to the first boss

[warped iron]

64, if you're on hell mode. it adds a 1-heat pact called personal liability

[warped panther]

huh

[hallow peak]

Haven’t played on hell mode, YET

What does that do?

[warped iron]

personal liability removes the invul period after taking too much damage in a short period of time

[narrow hemlock]

you also start with heat and god mode is disabled iirc

those were the significant differences

[ionic trail]

i just checked the steam achievement stats and less than half the players have cleared a run?????

[narrow hemlock]

a lot of people who own the game probably have not played it since achievements were added.

thats why, say, the terraria achievement for crafting a bench, something you literally need to make any progress in the game, is sitting at only 40%, because many of the people who own the game have not played since that particular achievement got added. hades was on steam for 9 months before achievements came around and many probably played their fill and put it aside

[runic estuary]

I totally forgot there was a hell mode oh god

[steady sierra]

Pro tip for Stygius, just spam dash attack

[modern garnet]

that's good for most weapons lmaoo

[steady sierra]

Well not Coronacht 😤

[deft shell]

Lol that's my least favorite way to play the sword. That's why I like Poseidon aspect for cast build or 4th aspect for big attack damage

[steady sierra]

Hoarding Slash is underrated

[deft shell]

It's amazing if you get early as your first hammer

[steady sierra]

I got it right out of the house

[craggy barn]

hoarding slash isn't good, really

you're likely just gonna spend it all at the styx shop or somewhere else

[deft shell]

The point is you hoard your gold without spending it

[carmine ravine]

It adds a flat bonus iirc, not base dmg

[deft shell]

Flat bonus is still good. If you have 1000 gold, thats an extra 50 damage per swing

[carmine ravine]

When you can already deal a lot more than that if u buy stuff

[deft shell]

Math isn't checking out there

[warped panther]

If you indeed hoard, and you play well, it's one of the best.

[steady sierra]

I have come across unnamed man

well I know his name cause I looked it up

It’s Patroclus

[craggy barn]

you'd get lots more out of spending 1000 gold on boons and poms than to just hoard it

[steady sierra]

Patroclus kinda op

[carmine ravine]

MaTh iSnT cHeCkiNg oUt tHerE

[craggy barn]

there's having a bunch of gold for like +50 damage per swing vs an actual build for ungodly dps

[deft shell]

Oh snap he did the spongebob text, my point has been invalidated 😂

[steady sierra]

So you’re saying buy all of Charon’s wares before this battle just cause

cause I have like 700 gold

[deft shell]

Eh idk, I've done runs where I hoard gold to buy the blood/diamond (without hoarding slash) and it doesn't feel like my build suffers that much

[craggy barn]

what exactly are your options

[steady sierra]

It’d be sad if I somehow lost this battle

I just had my death defiance’s restored so I have 4

hopefully I’ll get out of Elysium this time

also

Theseus is so full of himself, why do I love him

Beat it while only losing one death defiance

Ah shoot

Don’t tell me I have to fight the dog

[warped panther]

Every character in Hades just bleeds charm. Which is par for the course with Supergiant, but nonetheless it still surprises me every time.

[steady sierra]

oh good

I don’t have to fight the dog

[warped panther]

funnily enough I feel like Asterius is my favorite. he just has such... I guess, "bro" energy is the best way I can describe it.

[steady sierra]

Tisiphone has the best personality

[deft shell]

I felt a similar sense of relief when I got to that part lol

[steady sierra]

lmao

hm

swap one hammer for two 🤔

[sick root]

i love hades i just discovered it like a month ago it became one of my favorite roguelike type of games up there with binding of isaac

[steady sierra]

also why are some of these Poms 300 and others are 100

[sick root]

im super bad at it still when i have a low dmg build because i dont know everything yet haha

i almost teared up when i beat it fully when them credits rolled

so damn good

[steady sierra]

ah

oh shoot, there are so many options here

[deft shell]

The expensive poms give 2 levels instead of one

[steady sierra]

ah

oh, it’s not options, I’m trying to find a path. Interesting change of pace

[modern garnet]

yeah i love how it's designed

[deft shell]

Let's see how many rooms you have to try before finding the sack 👀

[hollow kettle]

I don’t like styx that much because all the references to “satyr sacks” and “satyr holes” and the like feels kind of innuendo-y

[deft shell]

I never even thought of that until now 😂

[steady sierra]

I just went through all of them anyway

Anyway, Cerberus vanquished

uh oh

[deft shell]

Good luck!

[warped panther]

remember when the game says "there is no escape?"

yeah uh

about that

[steady sierra]

Damn

I was so close

[rare hull]

Managed to beat Charon in Tartarus itself omg! Maxed out Arthur aspect with Divine strike is so good :O

[sudden patrol]

oh god

oh god

oh dear god

I just accidentally closed my game

right after beating EM3 theseus and the minotaur

that was my closest run to getting EM4 done

why does god hate me

[rare hull]

That is saddening :( You're done with Poseidon's request though?

[sudden patrol]

What?

[high island]

Check #h1-tech-fixes for how to recover your save.

[craggy barn]

the game should autosave when you enter a chamber

it's probably fine

[timber dove]

https://imgur.com/a/oHWgyS9 I am thinking aid? Now the 2500 damage is that the max damage the person will do in the 5.5 seconds or do they take 2.5 k damage?

[craggy barn]

greater call deals 2.5k damage

[timber dove]

right it deals 2.5 and then they fight for me

[craggy barn]

no point in pomming it if you're looking at the damage since the damage is unaffected

yeah the enemy is charmed

that is if they're still alive

[timber dove]

thanks

[high island]

Keep in mind that 2.5k is affected by global damage modifiers.

[modern garnet]

pressure points 😎

[timber dove]

yeah so each shot does 500 damage

[modern garnet]

???

I don't think the projectiles deal damage unless you're at max gauge

[high island]

Hm? It's one shot that does 2.5k damage at max gauge.

Lesser Calls do 1 damage.

[warped panther]

Wait, do bosses get charmed?

[sudden patrol]

I gave it another go

I just beat lernie

I'll post a screenshot if I finally beat EM4 hades

[modern garnet]

some bosses are immune to charm, i think?

[high island]

Yes, bosses can be charmed.

[sudden patrol]

Charm is best for bosses imo

[high island]

They're not immune.

[sudden patrol]

solely for the free immunity

but i hate it so much when my aphro call goes to the recovering soul instead of the greatshield or longbow

[high island]

Charm duration is reduced on bosses, though, though I couldn't tell you by how much exactly.

[warped panther]

So wait... with the boon that caps your god gauge at 25%, but makes it rapidly regen, you could... charmlock a boss.

[sudden patrol]

Yes

That's super good

[warped panther]

oh wait

[sudden patrol]

I've gotten it like a few times before

I cheesed hades

[brisk trail]

Thats swag

I wanna do that

[sudden patrol]

And i swear to god if i get lucky enough to get it for my EM4 fight

[brisk trail]

cause EM4 is so difficult for me

[high island]

Zeus' Aid and Aphrodite's Aid are both amazing with Smoldering Air.

Smoldering Air is just one of the very best boons in the game.

[sudden patrol]

Smoldering Air has carried me so many times

Anyways

back to killing powered up enemies

[brisk trail]

ok

Idk somehow i was able to beat EM4 on my first try but

[high island]

Charming both Asterius and Theseus is particularly entertaining.

[modern garnet]

i gotta play more aphro, apparently

[sudden patrol]

I wish for your skill

[high island]

I start all my runs with the Eternal Rose.

[brisk trail]

at that time i didnt know hades had 3 lives

[high island]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/630312677855461377/774519226211762206/772250944590839808.gif

[brisk trail]

but now burdened with the knowledge its more difficult for me

[sudden patrol]

I used to go with artemis's keepsake

but now i go for the rose as well

Aphro is the best god tbh

[brisk trail]

I was one hit away from death for the majority of the third phase LOL

[sudden patrol]

I love how you can cheese bosses by just getting them to deal no damage when inflicted with weak, and to take more damage

[sudden patrol]

OOF

I'm scared

[brisk trail]

adrenaline carried me

the world slowed

i cant do it now tho

[sudden patrol]

I'm going to beat it just to prove that i can

[brisk trail]

i believe in u

u can do it

[high island]

Lady Aphrodite called me a perfect little angel today on her stream.

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-light-blue-hair-anime-happy-anime-girl-blushing-anime-gif-18983492

[sudden patrol]

imagine using anime gifs when pogchamp works just as well

anyways im out

update: i found (and took) the aphro call

now i just need smoldering air

I have zeus on special soooo

Will I get it?

sick i got it in the last room of styx

[steady sierra]

wait

[sudden patrol]

this is gonna be ez

[steady sierra]

New boon 😳😳😳

[sudden patrol]

what

???

[steady sierra]

what