#h1-discussion

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rapid agate
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but it's the moveset that sells it for me

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not the aura

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and that doesn't get buffed

worthy egret
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Arthur is one of those you dont really need to up imo

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Im upping it cause its my best boi

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But

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I maxed all exa aspects first

rapid agate
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i maxed zag aspect of exa

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but i maxed chiron and zag for bow first

worthy egret
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Controversial but i like Lucifer

rapid agate
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still didn't get to try it

sharp dust
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ok so im at the point where i can consistently reach hades with 1-2 lives/whatever charges and then he usually wipes me

worthy egret
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it go brrrrrrrrrr

rapid agate
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i like lucifer on principle

hallow peak
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Im glad when I was failing runs before trying to get the dialogue I got the chop hammer ability for the sword

sharp dust
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i feel like my builds are trash

hallow peak
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I don’t wanna use that

rapid agate
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am i the only one that thinks theseus is harder than hades

worthy egret
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He can be

hallow peak
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The thrust in the swords combo is super useful which it doesn’t let you do that

worthy egret
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Its a huge difficulty spike

rapid agate
hallow peak
hallow peak
worthy egret
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It doesnt like my tactic of keep pressing dash

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And hitting the thingy

hallow peak
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I get a insane amount of crits on that final thrust

sharp dust
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the jump in difficulty from hydra to theseus is insane

hallow peak
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Yeah

worthy egret
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Youd think at heat 16 i would start learning how to play this game

hallow peak
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Asterius is hard to some people because oh his damage but he is easy to avoid even for someone as bad as dodging as me

worthy egret
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Extreme measures asterius

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:)

hallow peak
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Theseus between his shield and his god summon ability is really strong

worthy egret
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let it rip

rapid agate
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arthur is very simple but so good

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asterius is allright but theseus is so awful

hallow peak
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Can’t hardly hit him so he just lasts longer and you take a bunch of damage from the god hazards

rapid agate
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i hate playing shield, and he plays shield

worthy egret
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Arthur 3rd attack feels SO good

rapid agate
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YES

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just

worthy egret
rapid agate
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that

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CHUNK

sharp dust
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vs theseus i usually turtle throwing casts and charging calls

rapid agate
worthy egret
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I wish i had the patience

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For turtling bosses

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I just yeet myself right into danger

rapid agate
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i can kinda turtle bosses

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as long as i have a ton of damage

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and get it over with fast

craggy barn
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you either take 5 minutes to kill a boss or 30 seconds to do it

hallow peak
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I usually just use my casts on the boss and then get in their face while dashing side to side to avoid hits all the while spamming attack and sometimes special doing combos

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Usually works

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Especially for bone hydra

sharp dust
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i wonder what other god i have to pair with artemis/crit to actually deal dmg

rapid agate
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artemis alone deals quite a bit of damage

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imo

hallow peak
sharp dust
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last run my gauntlets hit like wet noodles

rapid agate
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oh

hallow peak
rapid agate
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gauntlets do kinda hit like wet noodles imo

hallow peak
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Artemis actually ignoring the crit bonuses has some of the lowest damage boosters of all the gods

rapid agate
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oh

hallow peak
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I suggest zeus with the rail and ares with the fists or sword

rapid agate
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that's good imo

hallow peak
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And sometimes zeus or ares could work with spear

rapid agate
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how does beowulf work btw

worthy egret
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Furry

gray apex
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load cast, rush, cast explode, big dmg

hallow peak
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Lol

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Thats probably exaggeration but you get my point

worthy egret
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Beowulf is great cause it lets you T Pose into dominance

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No wait thats

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Thats gilgamesh

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OOOPS

hallow peak
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Arthur even has a different idle animation i forgor

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Lol

oblique sun
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i think all hidden aspects do

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i noticed guan yu drips blood

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leaves trail behind

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haven't used the other hidden aspects lol

hallow peak
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Man could you imagine if on the pact of punishment the aspects counted as different weapons

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Titan blood for days

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Also question where do you post memes

oblique sun
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uh

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hades memes? maybe here

hallow peak
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But

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No image perms shadegrief

oblique sun
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send somewhere and copy link

sharp dust
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any reason to get gods' pride or olympian favor over their alternatives?

hallow peak
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Yes

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I do post heresy often

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Lol

high island
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God's Pride is the default for high heat and speedruns unless you're specifically looking for certain Duo Boons, but even then sometimes God's Pride can be preferable.

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Epic boons are really good, and especially Epic boons from Lord Hermes are huge.

rapid agate
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30 percent faster hexagryph, rama or arthur is just fire

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thanks aerith

worthy egret
hallow peak
worthy egret
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YES

hallow peak
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I wish wombo had a feature to upload audio tho

hallow peak
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Am having much fun yes

worthy egret
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Join us

hallow peak
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Oh wait

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There

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Now capital A

hallow peak
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Dang thats tough

sharp dust
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do boss fights count as "encounters" for petrorclus' jerky bonus?

hallow peak
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Anything thats a fight I think

grand crystal
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Yea anything that involves combat is an encounter

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So shops, fountain rooms, npc rooms, and area transitions don’t count

sharp dust
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k ty

hallow peak
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This chaos boon is sorta hard

grand crystal
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Yea hidden rewards sucks

hallow peak
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I don’t know if I should take it

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Yeah hidden reqards suck

oblique sun
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if you're close to the boss, hidden rewards are amazing

hallow peak
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But at the same time a little over double increase in my darkness and gem rewards is awesome

oblique sun
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what chamber r u in

hallow peak
oblique sun
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shucks

hallow peak
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But 102% increase

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Dang man

oblique sun
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take it

hallow peak
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Im taking it

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Dang chaos aint even letting me see the rewards when I exit his realm

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Thats not cool dude

oblique sun
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yeah it takes out one of the counters right then and there

hallow peak
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Its for five encounters too

oblique sun
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yeah, one is the chaos, 4 to go lol

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no double jumper it doesn't

hallow peak
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Oh boy

oblique sun
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they have "armor" but not the yellow bar

dire dagger
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@oblique sun i figured, was mostly joking :P

oblique sun
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oh alright kek

dire dagger
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it'd be funny tho

oblique sun
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then it'd just be "deals extra damage to anyone wearing clothes"

hallow peak
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Of course when I exited chaos realm I picked the key one

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Keys I don’t need

meager ferry
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@livid eagle

hallow peak
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bout to kill dad with excalibur @worthy egret

worthy egret
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Yesss

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Sticc sord in dadd

hallow peak
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It would be much easier

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IF MY GAME WASN’T LAGGING LIKE A MOTHER TRUCKER

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WHY

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Done did it

warped panther
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Is it normal for Duo modifiers to not properly purge? For example, I had the modifier that makes Flood Shot become a slow piercing projectile that lets off small Demeter vortexes (blanking on the name). I purged it, and the only change was that the projectile was no longer slow.

hallow peak
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My victory screenshot library grows

hallow peak
high island
warped panther
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Ah

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I'll keep that in mind for next time I run into that

high island
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Are you sure it wasn't just that you had Snow Burst, too?

warped panther
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I closed the game, so no way for me to check.

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I think so?

oblique sun
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you can find previous runs in admin chamber

warped panther
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I keep forgetting that exists. I'm typically too busy getting side-eye from the shades for repeatedly failing to inspire them every time I go in there.

hallow peak
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Wait

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How do you do a boonless run since if you get them as a chamber reward you have to take them

craggy barn
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fated authority

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and if you're forced to take a boon, you can just purge it

hallow peak
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Ok

unborn remnant
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hades

hallow peak
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I just now realized that some if not all dialogue avatars blink. I just saw athena blink

winter zinc
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fear

runic estuary
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Just finished the main story and I was shocked that it ended so well

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I was tense waiting for the big rug pull

brisk trail
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Omg yes!!

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The main story ending is just so satisfying

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I love

runic estuary
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Are we warning for spoilers in this chat?

winter zinc
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nop

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on the topic of endings

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the main story ending is nice

runic estuary
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Sweet cause I was so stressed the pantheon would come in and just yank persephone away or something

winter zinc
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the epilogue is not all i hoped for though :( but that's understandable because hades is such a huge game!

runic estuary
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Or that she couldn't stay on hades

winter zinc
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if they made a DLC expanding on the epilogue somewhat

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id def buy it

runic estuary
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For sure

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I know it's already such a big game and supergiant may be burnt out but crawling up olympus with all the cathonic gods helping you with boons would be sick

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Like the final boss changes every time to one of the olympic gods instead of hades

hallow peak
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I think

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I remember vaguely reading something about multiple endings to hades

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Why do I always get this crap at the end

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Why does rngesus hate me so

worthy egret
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Hang on

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Who is stealing my nickname

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👀

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WHO IS THIS ANOTHER ARTI

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IMPOSTOR

hallow peak
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I thought Arti was the tag for followers of excalibur

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Arti = arthur

worthy egret
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Oh no thats just what I got called here a few times and I liked it jshfjf

hallow peak
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Did I just make that up myself lol

worthy egret
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Its from Artemis

hallow peak
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That’s definitely what is now though

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Followers of excalibur = arti

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Lol

worthy egret
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:(

runic estuary
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Can I be arti cause I'm artsi

worthy egret
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hiss hiss

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Ya ofc dw

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I don't have my nickname copyrighted go for it

hallow peak
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The trifecta

worthy egret
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Now its copyrighted

runic estuary
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Perfect

worthy egret
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I demand a tribute

hallow peak
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Uhhhh

runic estuary
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My bad

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How about one corn chip and a derpy 30 second doodle of zag

hallow peak
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Want some hairibo watermelon

worthy egret
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Both of those are perfectly acceptable and amazing tributes

hallow peak
compact badger
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Are they impostors, though? This feels more like an Arti Parti thanthink

worthy egret
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F

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Followers

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Of the original Arti

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ACTUALLY NO IM NOT VERY GOOD TO FOLLOW

worthy egret
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thank you for this...

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I cherish this watrmln

hallow peak
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@worthy egret i want to become a partner I up with diet mtn dew and half a chocolate chip cookie

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This is escalating fast lol

worthy egret
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Unfortunately i cannot accept the cookie for I have celiacs

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But I shall accept the mountain dew as an offering

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... Is this how gods are made

hallow peak
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Gods of capitalism

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Lol

worthy egret
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NO

hallow peak
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So am partner?

worthy egret
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I DO NOT WANT TO BE THAT KINDA GOD

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What kinda partner do you wish to be

runic estuary
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Well I have the doodle but I don't have permission to post it :(

worthy egret
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You can do it via a link

hallow peak
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I just want to do this

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There

runic estuary
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Theeeere we go, even used the derpy instagram doodle thing

hallow peak
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I must log in

worthy egret
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This is an acceptable offering

hallow peak
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Nein

worthy egret
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I love it

hallow peak
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I wish I could see it

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If you take a screenshot and post in in a different server and copy the media link you can post it here

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And I can see it

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Thats what I have been doing

runic estuary
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Ahhhhh good idea

sharp dust
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ok since i discovered i could build ares on gantlets i've been mauling hades left and right

runic estuary
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There we go

hallow peak
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Is perfection

runic estuary
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It cut off him saying screw you dad but you get the feel

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Am van Gogh

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Will make equally good doodles of other characters

hallow peak
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Bro van gogh is my favorite artist

runic estuary
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Same

hallow peak
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I can sort of relate with the whole no one understanding you thing

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Well not sort of I can

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Its just in van goghs case I don’t have the same mental problem

sharp dust
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nor talent :>

hallow peak
carmine ravine
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Relating to van gogh is pretty much a stretch then

hallow peak
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I have the imagination but not the skill

hallow peak
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Made elementary and my childlife heck

runic estuary
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It's ok, we can share the talent

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We are van gogh

carmine ravine
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Its not a unique thing, all autistic people are like that (not implying you are)

runic estuary
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Eh nothing wrong with relating though. Even if it's not purely unique. @sharp dust what ares build did you make? Was it stacking damage?

hallow peak
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Aspergers is a form of autism so I am on the spectrum

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Just a little thankfully I didn’t get it super bad

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Still made life rough and hard for anybody to understand me

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Emotions were hard man

sharp dust
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doom

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doom is op

hallow peak
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Society sucked lol

hallow peak
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It can be op

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Looks at spear longingly

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How I yearn for clearing rooms in one throw again

runic estuary
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Yeah but with fists you can P U N C H. I also love the magnet special you get from one of the fists even if I don't find it as useful as others

hardy geyser
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I am trying to get the "Friends Forever" achievement, which calls for max ranking every keepsake. Does that include ||Persephone ||and|| Hades'|| keepsakes as well?

runic estuary
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Probably

hallow peak
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How do you know when you get a perfect cath

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I have came close before and in fact I just did pull a fast one and got a different sound but I just got a normal knucklehead

hallow peak
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You cursed me @novel wasp

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Out of 5 runs I have only gotten chaos twice

sudden patrol
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YES I GOT UNHEALTHY FIXATION ON AN ALREADY GOOD APHRO RAMA RUN

hallow peak
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And that was on the first run

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I haven’t had chaos at all for the other four

hallow peak
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Lol

sudden patrol
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It means that every time I fire my arrow it has a 15% chance to charm an enemy

hallow peak
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Neat

sudden patrol
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yo wtf I got a diamond from sunken treasure

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i didnt know that could happen

hallow peak
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It can give you special resources that it doesn’t list

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Like nectar

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That was probably from heroic sunken treasure

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I have never gotten boss resources though

sudden patrol
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it was from epic

sharp dust
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why do the smol chariots do little cat noises

sudden patrol
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cuz they're cats

sharp dust
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cat spirits

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me sees

hallow peak
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I have become strong enough where lucky tooth is obsolete

brisk trail
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Idk if this is the right spot to talk about this but I love how we were given the chance to romance both ||Meg|| and ||Than|| and a good chunk of the fandom was like “yeahhh...this is cool but I want the sleepy guy.”

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I love ||Thanzag|| but MAN some of the things hypnos tells Zagreus are kinda sus failbag

sharp dust
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how many times do i need to beat dad for mom to move over?

brisk trail
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||ten|| times!

sharp dust
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kay

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well thats now 4 wins in a row with ares fists

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ez

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i also have 15 blood things

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which fist is the most op

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?

grand crystal
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its all opinion but i like demeter

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takes 16 to max tho

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get it to level 3

carmine ravine
grand crystal
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build either artemis or aphrodite on special with zeus/ares on attack

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take athena dash cuz why not

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and aim for exploding upper hammer

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some people like talos but im not a fan

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it works as a cast weapon if youre into that

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but demeter is my fav fist

sharp dust
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i'll have to see some vid of demeter

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i don't like specials in general

carmine ravine
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Then dont use rails

sharp dust
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rail is the only one i use since the attack is terrible early on

hasty owl
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GUYS GUYS IM SO HAPPY

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got my sub 12

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“hermes would be jealous”

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feels so good

brisk trail
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nice

woven nacelle
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For the aspect of guan yu; do you need 5 blood in ANY non-Zagreus aspects or only non-Zagreus spear aspects?

brisk trail
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spear

woven nacelle
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Oh okay

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Thank you

brisk trail
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wait which step are you doing

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cos first you need to unlock non zag aspect for 5 weapons

woven nacelle
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Oh

brisk trail
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then spend 5 blood on spear aspects

woven nacelle
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Must’ve misheard, in that case

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Any aspects in particular I should look into?

brisk trail
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not rly, just whatever you like

rapid agate
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EX

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CUSE

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ME

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WHAT???????

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HADES JUST LET ME GO TO MOTHER???????????

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FREEBIE??????????

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ALRIGHT I'M NOT COMPLAININ

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I HAD NO DEATH DEFIANCES

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i had just picked up the duo artemis and demeter tho

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like that could've carried me

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alright i'm mindblown

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YUP HE JUST LET ME GO

brisk trail
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Chill man calm down

rapid agate
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sorry

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it's just

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so mindblowing

gusty nest
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Hello guys, in Hades I have a problem with my saves which are not properly saved, has anyone else the same problem?

brisk trail
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That's almost always how the tenth clear goes, you've got a super beefed build and then...

rapid agate
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i'm so happy

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i should've went with bow smh

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i could've gotten free 8 heat

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CHARON MVP

hardy geyser
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I feel that. My 10th run I had no DD left and was going in with like 30HP. It was overwhelming and I was so happy

rapid agate
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i was about to say "i'm so happy"

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finally

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credits

brisk trail
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Enjoy the waterworks.

rapid agate
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still gonna be playing this for a while

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yup

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cya

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ahahahah poor hades

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supergiant

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keep making more things

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because you make good things

brisk trail
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trying to reach surface with guan yu lvl 2 rn chimken

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my doom on special does 249

rapid agate
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i got the best job on earth

brisk trail
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Hello

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What can u unlock after u fight the final boss

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Not beat but fight

rapid agate
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a lot of things

brisk trail
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Yea I just did it

rapid agate
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you'll see then

brisk trail
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Where

rapid agate
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in game

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do a new run

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first thing you'll see is something new

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a new face even

brisk trail
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Will it help me win

rapid agate
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maybe

fading fulcrum
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So I know this will probably never happen. But I think an awesome quality of life change would be to add a button or key that would let you use your 'hold attack' mechanic.

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Itd make aspects like Hades soooo much more fun IMO

rapid agate
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hold attack?

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oh

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charge?

fading fulcrum
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Yes

rapid agate
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would be op for lance

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you'd just spin 24/7

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no need to attack

fading fulcrum
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So instead of having that initial attack when you have to charge youd just do it

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Yeah but that sounds amazing lol

rapid agate
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just charge?

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you can probably mod it in

fading fulcrum
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Well youd still have to charge

rapid agate
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some people dared to BUFF the bow in mods

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and i'm personally offended

fading fulcrum
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Theres still that moment of wind up, but just remove the initial attack you have to do

rapid agate
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oh

fading fulcrum
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Buff the bow?! Dear lord

rapid agate
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i see

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but the initial attack pushes ennemies

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or stuns em

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a lil

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so you can charge more conveniently

fading fulcrum
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Well im not saying to get rid of that way, just add a functionality that lets me do either or lol

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Like if you still want that first attack into the charge and also have a key or button for the charge you can. Idk I play on Switch and it'd be so easy to implement it into my button scheme

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A man can dream lol

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I just wanted to see what other people felt about it

brisk trail
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For my fists should i pick

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Heavy knuckle flying cutter or concentraded knuckle

carmine ravine
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Use max heat on ur 10th clear for skipping hades, big brain

rapid agate
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i would've done it

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if i was aware

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but instead i fell in love with aspect of arthur more

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why does sword have other aspects

brisk trail
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I cant use aspect of arthurr

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The attack is so slow

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nemesis and Poseidon tho

rapid agate
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it deals like

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1000 damage with one artemis

brisk trail
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wh

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WHAT

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wait

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ill try that thanks

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arty on the attakc right?

rapid agate
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yep

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arthur aspect

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deals

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STUPID

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damage

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at one point i had like 3000 damage showing up

fading fulcrum
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I can't use arthur to save my life

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Literally

rapid agate
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but it's awesome

fading fulcrum
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Counter argument: no

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Jk

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I just suck with it

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Im sure its great once you get used to it

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Its just soooooo slooooowwww

brisk trail
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Yeah its tough for me

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I just like spammin the attack button

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Attack go brrr

fading fulcrum
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Just hit attack button 4 head

brisk trail
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bois, all prophecies completed

fading fulcrum
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Hell yeah noice job

rapid agate
rapid agate
brisk trail
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U CANT USE IT NEITHER

rapid agate
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what

sharp dust
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demeter fist+explosive uppercut take some time getting used to huh

hallow peak
sharp dust
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i just died to hydra of all enemies while trying it out

hallow peak
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Also demeter is good too

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If you cant be fast

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Just make enemies slow

rapid agate
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i love this game

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i'm battling my father and the only thing i'm paying attention to is the fishing spot

sharp dust
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feel like maybe i should swap my cast and special key bindings with each other

brisk trail
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I use m2 for special and e for cast

rapid agate
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huh

brisk trail
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as a sword player I use m2 a lot more

rapid agate
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now what happens

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damn i got another bass

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oh

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i don't get to visit

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mother's old house

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hey i just realized

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i have a 3-run winstreak

brisk trail
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nice!

rapid agate
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aight life is good

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i'mma go nap now

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it's 3 am

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i couldn't even tell my friends about my astounding achievements smh

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gn you lovely peebz

brisk trail
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sleep well

proven brook
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We can post Hades Memes here?

quaint wind
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yeah

brisk trail
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anyone know how much dialogue I need with demeter after the prologue to finish her favour?

hallow peak
brisk trail
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I use q for call

hallow peak
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Wait do I have that mixed up hang on

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Nope

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My call is f

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Whats your call

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Q is too close sometimes I pause to hear what someone said to me and my hand shifts over from wasd

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I would accidentally trigger it too much

sudden patrol
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according to the narrator zag was mauled by bears after being pleased by fauna but discovering bears are not gentle

hallow peak
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Plausible

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Zagreus has never seen wildlife after all

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You know what I love I love getting demeters attack boon with excalibur and getting into a bosses face and plopping down the aura and making them as slow as a snail while I shred them

peak zealot
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I really hate when I sell a boon, then immediately get offered the same boon I just sold

hallow peak
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Lol

peak zealot
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for reference in this case, it was posiedon/aphrodite duo boon. I was already in the last area and had cleaned out all the poms, managed to find a sell station and get rid of the boon to buy a titan blood, then immediately got offered the duo boon again

hallow peak
#

Why would you not want that?

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I haven’t got that I don’t think so I don’t know what it does

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Does it makes something better but something worse?

craggy barn
#

it makes poms lvl up your boons by +1 lvl

#

so now poms you pick up will lvl up your boons by 2

#

pretty useless when there are no poms left to eat lol

peak zealot
#

and I had no poms left to pick up, so it wasn't doing much

hallow peak
#

Hmm

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Idk

peak zealot
#

honestly, it should really give you a pom right away when you get the boon just to make sure it always does something at least

hallow peak
#

Well

peak zealot
#

kind of like the aprhodite boon that upgrades nectar to grant life

craggy barn
#

that's dionysus

hallow peak
#

I guess if you are trying to get the titan blood then I guess you arent going for the shop poms

peak zealot
#

@hallow peak no, I already had the shop poms

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and just incidentally also got titan blood

hallow peak
#

Usually if I don’t have enough for the diamond or titanblood i get the shop poms

#

Oh

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Then I would find it useful for those and also the pom trial room

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Unless it doesn’t apply to shops

peak zealot
#

To be clear, I don't think the boon is generally useless, it jjust happened to be strictly useless when I got offered it the second time

hallow peak
#

Lol

peak zealot
#

I think the boon would feel better if it came with a pom just like the dio boon comes with a nectar

craggy barn
#

sweet nectar doesn't do much when you're already at styx

hallow peak
#

Yeah probably

craggy barn
#

if you wanna get sweet nectar you wanna get it early on

peak zealot
#

I mean, you don't get that much choice sometimes. I wasn't going for an aphro/posiedon run. I just got forced to take aphro on a posiedon zeus run

peak zealot
#

well.. I have reached the credits in my second play through. Took 15 runs.

wicked sphinx
#

won the game for the 10th time GG

brisk trail
#

nice

wicked sphinx
#

Your name is giving me complex feelings hmmm

brisk trail
#

thanazagaera is canon prove me wrong

wicked sphinx
#

well it is

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but it still gives me complex feelings XD

hallow peak
#

I feel like the damage values on the shield are all wrong

#

The bull rush at max charge does 40 damage and the main attack does 25

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Where the throw does 15

#

The bull rush is normal I suppose but the throw and attack should switch values

#

The attack pushes people away which makes sense or it would if the throw did more damage then it would be a more distance focused weapon

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Which the bull rush would and does work well for

woven nacelle
#

I love hermes

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Hermes

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Marry me

hallow peak
#

Lol

woven nacelle
#

And give me +3 dashes every day

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Thanks

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Seriously 5 dashes is extremely broken

hallow peak
#

I had a heroic 4 which got upgraded to 5 dashes at the end from pom blossom

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NYOOOOOOOOM

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CATCH ME NOW DAD

#

stab

woven nacelle
#

Frrr

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You just speed around

#

It’s so fun

hallow peak
#

I still think supergiant sort of goofed on the shield

woven nacelle
#

In what ways?

hallow peak
#

It would work way better I feel if the throw and attack damage values switched around

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Scroll up I said it when you talked about hermes

woven nacelle
#

The throw on base is pretty weak

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What is it

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15?

woven nacelle
#

It almost requires boons/hammers to work

hallow peak
#

I was looking at the wiki and was using it on skelly and it just feels wrong

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Made me realize why I don’t use the shield often

woven nacelle
#

But I guess getting 15 damage + bouncing off of several foes can stack a lot

hallow peak
#

I try to be captain america when that just doesn’t work

vapid narwhal
#

shield trade off big damage with its unique defense

#

you cant be both safe and as lethal as other weapons

woven nacelle
#

Yeah I mean you can straight up just not get hit

hallow peak
#

Plus at that point its like

vapid narwhal
#

also you have other aspects which drastically increases the shields kill potential

hallow peak
#

Just use the spear

vapid narwhal
#

zag shield is just that, safe but not very interesting

#

if you want interesting shield builds use zeus or hidden aspect

hallow peak
woven nacelle
hallow peak
#

There is chaos shield

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But it doesn’t do much

vapid narwhal
#

chaos aspect says hi

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pair it with ares

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and blanket rooms with doom

hallow peak
woven nacelle
#

Aside from actual reasons, chaos shield looks AMAZING and I shall stand by it until the end of time.

hallow peak
#

It should be viable on its own

vapid narwhal
#

shield IS viable on its own

hallow peak
woven nacelle
#

Shield is easily viable

manic moat
hallow peak
woven nacelle
#

Just hold bull rush for awhile then spam attack

hallow peak
vapid narwhal
#

well that's up to you

hallow peak
#

But thats like

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Late late late gane

vapid narwhal
#

all 6 weapons are balanced and equally viable

#

hidden shield is far from end game

hallow peak
#

Because at first yeah 20% is pretty good

manic moat
#

I think you can then techincally go for a aphro cast arte special heart rend build lmao

hallow peak
#

But 20% of fifteen isn’t much

vapid narwhal
#

hidden aspects are all pretty easy to obtain

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hidden shield is a staple in speedruning FYI

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and that category is all about fast damage output

hallow peak
#

You would have to invest a good amount of titan blood before it became viable

vapid narwhal
#

I mean yeah? plenty of other aspects are the same

#

it's not unique to shield

hallow peak
#

True

woven nacelle
#

370 health, relatively insane build, and 3 DD’s in the pocket going into elysium boss. This should be fun.

hallow peak
#

Ahhh yes

woven nacelle
#

I’ll send a screenshot when I beat hades

hallow peak
#

Why does it say in the codex that billowing strength doesn’t require anything else

woven nacelle
hallow peak
#

Since it works off of using call I assume you would need a call to get it

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Oh no hang on

woven nacelle
#

Also I took out Theseus/Asterius without even using my build lmao. I just spammed dash, and triple jab + speed jab attack over and over and they died

hallow peak
woven nacelle
#

I have the ares/arty cast build

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Oh wait that’s Zeus’?

#

My bad

#

Idk then

#

Could just be a bug

hallow peak
#

Billowing strength doesn’t require anything, huh?

#

I checked because its the last thing I need for his boon prophecy and I got a gate for him and poseidon which Neither fit what I normally go for when using sword

#

Lets see

#

If I get it

#

Well I beat the game and I am sorta just farming and I did not get it in my selection so let me just use these 4 fated dice I have

#

Rngesus hates my guts

#

That or its just not possible

woven nacelle
#

472 health

#

Still got 3 death defiance’s

#

Wait no

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4

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Lucky tooth

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:)

hallow peak
#

Noice

cerulean ferry
#

Damn that's nice, good luck

hallow peak
#

Why the heck is there a erebus gate when I have no heat

woven nacelle
#

Keep in mind I forgot to turn on heats, i have like 2 on :/. Still my best run to date, though

hallow peak
#

Huh its my first one

cerulean ferry
#

You purchased them so they're guaranteed to be there

hallow peak
#

Oh

vapid narwhal
#

Erebus gates spawn regardless

#

you just wont be able to take them without enough heat

hallow peak
#

Ok I see its locked behind a certain amount of heat you have to run with on

#

Ok*

cerulean ferry
#

Yeah

hallow peak
#

Interesting

#

Encourages you to play with higher heat

#

Even if you are just grinding

woven nacelle
#

Going into hades, I don’t need luck

hallow peak
#

After 8 runs

#

Look who came crawling back

woven nacelle
#

First phase down

#

Haven’t even lost half my health yet lmao

hallow peak
#

I see you over there tucked away in your little corner

brisk trail
#

How do i get the uprgraded spear

hallow peak
brisk trail
#

Yea..

hallow peak
#

Invest titan blood into 5 different aspects

woven nacelle
#

Gotem

hallow peak
#

Buy the prophecy scroll

woven nacelle
#

44 hp

#

Didn’t lose a death defiance

#

All run

brisk trail
#

How do i blood

hallow peak
#

Titan blood

brisk trail
#

I always get darkness

hallow peak
#

Oh

brisk trail
#

Is it my settings on the mirror?

hallow peak
#

Titan blood is from first boss and last one and sometimes charon sells it at the end for

#

Is it 1000 or 1200

brisk trail
#

The darkens heal you one

modern garnet
#

You can only get a boss reward once per weapon, until you beat the final boss

hallow peak
#

Yeah

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Then you unlock pact of punishment

#

You’ll see

hallow peak
#

Then come back

#

Jubberdunkus lol

brisk trail
#

Knobs

hallow peak
#

You’re asking these things too soon

woven nacelle
hallow peak
#

Beat the game at least once and alot of your questions will be answered

woven nacelle
#

Easiest run of my life omegalul

modern garnet
#

Triple flurry jab... feels so good

woven nacelle
#

It does

half zephyr
hallow peak
#

Aye

half zephyr
#

Once you unlock the ||pact of punishment|| you can add heat, resetting that counter basically

brisk trail
half zephyr
#

So you can get the bounties again

hallow peak
#

Those walls remind me of a certain game

#

On newgrounds

#

Oh no

half zephyr
#

Other ways to get blood outside the ||pact|| is via ||surface fishing||, buying in Styx & trading at the broker when its offered

woven nacelle
#

Trading is probably the easiest of the pack

half zephyr
#

There’s also completing certain prophecies

brisk trail
#

What do catching fish do

hallow peak
#

Shadowsnake knows a awful lot about the game

hallow peak
cerulean ferry
#

You can trade the fish to the chef and get rewards

half zephyr
#

You have to have unlocked the lounge first

hallow peak
#

Oh boy

half zephyr
hallow peak
#

Ahh

brisk trail
#

Does the chief ask for fish right when u get the upgrade

woven nacelle
#

Hades seems like such a nice person 😔

hallow peak
#

i always read it as shadowsnake

woven nacelle
#

Dude just got F’ed over by life

half zephyr
woven nacelle
#

Or death, however you see it

half zephyr
#

You need the fishing rod to catch fish ofc

half zephyr
brisk trail
#

So guessing you get diamonds with every different weapon

half zephyr
hallow peak
#

Like

#

Dare I say a tsundere

#

For lack of a better tern

half zephyr
#

Eeh

#

Hades isn’t a tsundere

woven nacelle
#

Like imagine your brother sends you to eternal damnation and you can’t do anything about it. Then when you finally find happiness with your wife she also leaves.

half zephyr
#

He’s perfectly happy to cater to every whim his wife makes or has

woven nacelle
#

I reckon that’d be enough to break a man

#

Tbh

hallow peak
hallow peak
half zephyr
woven nacelle
#

It seems to me that he’s been hurt so much that he drowns himself into his work

half zephyr
#

Not to everyone else >.>

hallow peak
woven nacelle
#

So many of the characters are so 🥺 🥺 🥺 in this game

half zephyr
#

He’s just a dad, doing his best

woven nacelle
#

Nyx is amazing

half zephyr
#

All the while being the ruler of the underworld

woven nacelle
#

Dusa just tries to do her job to the best of her abilities

#

Meg is Meg 😳

cerulean ferry
#

Dusa's a cutie

half zephyr
#

Meg is a sweetheart

hallow peak
#

Aphrodite makes me sad

half zephyr
#

And Dusa works too hard

half zephyr
hallow peak
#

Was looking at her boon names and some are just sad

#

Like empty inside

woven nacelle
#

The writers gave the gods, for the lack of a better word, a ton of humanity

#

Oop

hallow peak
#

No proxy foop you

#

I want my sailor mouth back

half zephyr
#

I always figured that empty inside was just what the boon left all the enemies feeling

#

Like sweet suffering

hallow peak
woven nacelle
#

At least the chthonic gods, the olympians are just a-holes

half zephyr
hallow peak
#

OH NO OH GOD NO

half zephyr
woven nacelle
#

We’re here for hades, after all

hallow peak
#

Oh shi oh fu oh shi oh fu

half zephyr
#

Don’t evade

brazen lagoon
#

Don't avoid swear filter smh

#

Smh my smh head

half zephyr
#

That’s not allowed

hallow peak
#

Wasn’t trying to

#

Thats not really bad if you think about it

#

I mean

#

Kids who shouldn’t be swearing aren’t going to figure that out

woven nacelle
#

So uh

#

Can someone help me out rq

half zephyr
#

That’s not the point

brazen lagoon
#

Argue that with the mods

hallow peak
#

Nor are they going to go around saying it cause it makes no sense

woven nacelle
#

In the wanton ransacking list right

half zephyr
#

The point is that evading the filter isn’t allowed

woven nacelle
#

It says I have to kill all of the wardens

hallow peak
#

Ok ok I know that geez

#

Not trying to avoid the filter

woven nacelle
#

I have all of them except for the one between Dire Snakestone and Dire Soul Catcher

hallow peak
#

Just didn’t know a better term

rare hull
#

Why does Theseus feel easier to go directly head on with EM3? Or is it just me? thanthink

half zephyr
woven nacelle
#

Does anyone know what that one is/where I can find it

woven nacelle
half zephyr
cerulean ferry
half zephyr
#

And when he has the chariot he just drives around in circles (sometimes cutting through the middle)

rare hull
#

Yea, Asterius genuinely got me scared for a minute there. He goes weeeee across the arena

half zephyr
#

Just save up a greater call & drop it after his “can’t hit me field” falls post chariot explosion

rare hull
#

I had Tidal Dash + Rupture + Typhoon dash (that's the name I guess?)

manic moat
#

aight Imma just save up my athena greater call to unleash on my guy theseus

#

he will def not survive that

hallow peak
#

I think asterius is way easier to fight than theseus

half zephyr
hallow peak
#

asterius is easy to dodge

rare hull
#

So it was pretty much fun to handle Theseus after the chariot broke

half zephyr
#

I don’t use Athena so didn’t consider that one hehe

manic moat
#

without em, asterius is slow and easy to dodge but more helth, whereas theseus is annoying with the shield and spear throwing

hallow peak
#

And if you are focusing on asterius in a corner of the arena theseus will stay back and aim at you with his spear which is also easy to dodge

hallow peak
half zephyr
#

Em3 turns Theseus into more of a madman & Asterius into beyblade

manic moat
#

spin to win asterius

#

trigger happy theseus

woven nacelle
#

Chariot Theseus is so annoying

half zephyr
#

How

#

He has a set pattern

woven nacelle
#

I can’t play with the boss buff maxed solely because of that fight

half zephyr
#

He’s super easy to avoid

hallow peak
#

Im doing that now

woven nacelle
half zephyr
#

You can just run around behind him

half zephyr
hallow peak
#

Oh dear no

woven nacelle
#

With the pact buff

half zephyr
#

Asterius telegraphs his moves really well

rare hull
#

Last time I had 28% on Pierced Butterfly and that was so triggering. After Elysium and had no luck on Styx either

#

There's no better option for that one other than the bow eh? Like... Not to get hit?

woven nacelle
#

People actually play bow? Kek

rare hull
#

I find Chiron aspect quite comfortable, though I made my first escape with Zag's aspect

cerulean ferry
#

Bow seems fun but I can't get the hang of it

brisk trail
woven nacelle
#

Bow is the virgin’s gun

rare hull
#

It's quite fun when you get the Daedalus hammer upgrade

brisk trail
#

Gun do no damage

hallow peak
#

Ngl I thought shadow was gonna be defensive around me. Seemed really hostile to me.

#

Sorry that... i have problems

#

Many problens

#

And many people hate me cause of said problems

woven nacelle
#

Malphon’s fists are extremely fun but I haven’t gotten a hang of them yet

hallow peak
#

Meaning I don’t make good first impressions which means I worry about my reputation alot and what other people think of me

#

Shadow wasn’t being hostile I shouldn’t have said that. Thats just how I felt

rare hull
#

I see a few people have (Arti ™) here, Does Uncle Poseidon have a fan club here? Haha

hallow peak
#

Lol

woven nacelle
#

What’s the point of doing high heats aside from bounties?

hallow peak
#

Excalibur good

rare hull
#

Too*

hallow peak
cerulean ferry
hallow peak
hallow peak
#

Also Erebus gates

rare hull
#

I thought Arti meant Artemis as well

#

But hey, it's all good

hallow peak
#

We were talking about the hidden aspect for the sword which is king arthur

#

And I know people have group tags in parentheses like that so I thought arti meant arthur group

rare hull
hallow peak
#

Because he was talking before about a group of people who praise arthur aspect

#

LOL HE MADE IT A REGISTERED TRADEMARK

#

time to one up

#

Done

#

I now own the brand name

#

Lol

#

I wish self notes would show up on discord to other people

#

Mine is inside jokes but sound ridiculous

rare hull
#

Does Lambent Plume requires a specific time to clear for each room? In order to provide the additional dodge? I've noticed the rooms where Papa sends wretches doesn't affect the plume so...

cerulean ferry
#

Yeah, it has a timer whenever you enter a room

hallow peak
#

According to the wiki

#

Look in the bottom lefthand corner

#

Thats where the timer is

rare hull
#

Bottom left? Got it. Time for Stygius after lunch. Thanks

twin moat
#

Which god works well with arthur?

brisk trail
#

In my experience, aphro on attack is nuts on arthur

#

i imagine poseiden would work well too

#

I think ares might be good for the special if you're not casting it too often

timber dove
cerulean ferry
#

It helps if you're trying to max out bonds

timber dove
#

bonds?

cerulean ferry
#

Like || Nyx, Achilles, Orpheus and some others I think ||

timber dove
#

Right, OK so no need at the moment then

#

so bette rof with nectar vintage to help beat the game

ornate dragon
timber dove
#

given I only have 32 hp for going down ther?

ornate dragon
#

Wait

#

For Arthur

#

How strong is it

timber dove
modest geode
#

Had this yesterday. Brought me down to 3 HP

cerulean ferry
#

Wait I just noticed the DD, what's that from? I've never seen it

timber dove
#

that is the other one, where you can die once per chamber and restore 30% health

modest geode
#

Death defiance? It's an alternative ability.

cerulean ferry
#

Yeah I know but why's there an infinity mark on it? Or is that always there and I'm just blind

timber dove
#

it proces once per chamber

#

so if it goes off, next chamber it reappears

modest geode
#

Instead of having a few defiances for the entire run, which could be used multiple times in one tough battle if needed, you have one per room. You can potentially die more times, but can't die more than once on a tough battle.

cerulean ferry
#

Ohhh wait I just now got it, thank you

modest geode
#

That's the symbol for it

cerulean ferry
#

I've never used it so I didn't know, thanks again

hallow peak
hallow peak
#

Poseidon

#

Poseidon probably not

#

Poseidon is good if you are grinding or for a ranged weapon or build

#

Since it pushes people away

hallow peak
#

You probably won’t have much at all tho like 1 hp maybe lol

hallow peak
half zephyr
timber dove
#

I survived

hallow peak
#

I find ares on special and demeter on attack works really well

#

Makes most things chump change

hallow peak
#

Also the slowing effect of the aura paired with demeter attack just is

#

muah

#

Makes things slow as a snail

#

While you chunk chunk chunk away

#

Gn y’all

rare hull
timber dove
#

well that run sucked 😦 died to meg

#

made it to the final boss yesterday die to meg today

half zephyr
#

Hermes isn’t part of the 4 god pool & can’t be summoned via keepsake

half zephyr
rare hull
#

Fascinating. I wonder how I've never noticed it. Perhaps I was too tunnel visioned on the enemies thanthink

half zephyr
#

Most likely

#

I didn’t notice it until my 6th run when I was in styx

brazen lagoon
#

It's not very noticeable granted

#

You kinda have to look for it

rare hull
#

Hmmm so 17 rooms at rank 3 to get 20% doge thanthink Hopefully I'll run into Papa's summons so it'll make life a bit easier

#

Is there any specific boon/build to go for? With the Plume?

half zephyr
#

And then you want good Hermes boons

brazen lagoon
#

Plus the boon that gives you extra dodge and movement after a call

#

That absolutely breaks it

#

Get that +smoldering and billowing and you got an absolutely cracked build

half zephyr
#

Maybe Dionysus/Poseidon now that I think of it hmmm...

I’ll have to try & get always epic duo early next time I do a dodge run

#

Test that out

rare hull
burnt bluff
#

Artemis is the perfect waifu imo

#

combo with the shield and you basically invicible

#

kinda

timber dove
#

is there a way to reset aspects?

#

to get all the blood back to repec?

cerulean ferry
#

There isn't

timber dove
#

holy hell, support fire is insne

#

insane

rare hull
tight cave
half zephyr
upbeat lodge
#

I want to work towards not using God mode anymore but still clearing heat. How can i work towards this goal

half zephyr
burnt bluff
#

this is the weirdest essay i have ever read

upbeat lodge
#

Ok

#

I just had a really nice yoyo build btw

half zephyr
#

The first time without heat is just so you get used to how hard things hit again without it

brazen lagoon
#

That's lot of words to say 'can I get the game for free'

burnt bluff
#

and the answer is no guarantee

half zephyr
#

I found the grammar a bit eh

burnt bluff
#

cause the amount of work that they put in to this

#

like the h mate

upbeat lodge
#

What's a good weapon to learn casting? I always forget about casts but i want to use them more

#

And what are the best cast boons

half zephyr
#

“Is there someone so kind and that I will can’t thank enough to maybe”

burnt bluff
#

no right?

gray apex
half zephyr
burnt bluff
brazen lagoon
#

Confuse people enough so that they gift you the game

#

5head

brisk trail
#

He's asking if anyone can gift him the game

half zephyr
#

Ye I get the end result

burnt bluff
#

i almost pirate transistor ost