#h1-discussion

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brisk trail
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Nope. dusa

high island
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Grrrrrrrrrrrr.

twin moat
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Is there any decent build for the spear?

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I always hate it

high island
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What aspect?

brisk trail
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When does the heat option unlock?

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After beating Hades for the first time.

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Alternately, if you start a Hell Mode file, it's unlocked after you get back from the first run.

native bone
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is a boonless run possible or am i just getting unlucky

half zephyr
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they are

native bone
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alright

half zephyr
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you purge all boons you pick up I think

native bone
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Yeah but in styx i keep getting only gods and no purge alter things

half zephyr
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styx is rng

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but boonless is possible

brisk trail
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In that case, if you can, take a burner boon, like Call or Cast and just don't press that button.

red surge
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do any of you guys know if Jen Zee is in this discord?

brisk trail
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Or ~~ any Poseidon boon~~ something like Sunken Treasure.

narrow hemlock
brisk trail
red surge
narrow hemlock
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being..?

red surge
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ah it’s a longwinded story let me try shorten it

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So a few months ago i got into contact with an artist from another games company who is a huge inspiration to me, much like Jen, and they offered to design me a tattoo based on some things we talked about and from the game, and i fell in love with hades style and i’d already had a bit of a love for some of the gods so i was wanting to get a part of a sleeve on the other arm with Dionysus, Nyx and Demeter and was going to try my luck at asking Jen a question that would end in most likely “no”

narrow hemlock
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as far as i've heard they're okay with tattoo stuff? i will try to dig around for that though

red surge
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Yeah i found that, but i was more meaning if, even if it cost or took months to years, she’d be able to collaborate or do me the honor of designing the 3 other norse gods to go on the sleeve

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having a sleeve or part of dedicated to each of my biggest artist inspirations would be so much goddamn motivation

narrow hemlock
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ohhh hm well

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might try the contact page on the website

red surge
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Oh? I shot a message to her instagram page but i’ll have a look there

narrow hemlock
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they may still be going through email backlog, i'm not sure if they're caught up on that front yet but i'm not sure how else you might inquire about it, twitter is terribly unreliable and this server stays mostly community-driven thonk

red surge
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I will try the contact us, bc even if it takes months or years i’m so down

narrow hemlock
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peaceborb well i wish you luck then, feel free to poke someone if you go a while without any sort of response

red surge
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thank you! who would i poke, do you think?

narrow hemlock
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you can poke any of the mods to ask and we'll usually poke cait about customer service-y type things

red surge
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okay! thank ya, i’ll probably poke you since you were here

narrow hemlock
native bone
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I was trying to boonless run and im trying to get the|| secret hades dialogue.|| i picked nourished soul by ||demeter|| and it wont let me purge it so does it count as a boon?

narrow hemlock
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i believe so

native bone
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darn

narrow hemlock
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noooot fully certain on that but i think boonless has to be truly zero olympian boons

native bone
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ok ty

brisk trail
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I think Chill is the most useless effect or at least the least noticeable

hollow hawk
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1 stack of chill does nothing, but 5+ stacks of chill are amazing for defense

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Also Demeter's tier twos are very good at complementing chill

modern grotto
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What does chill actually do

hollow hawk
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Slows em down

modern grotto
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Makes sense I never noticed it

brisk trail
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4% slow

modern grotto
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So what do you think is better doom or hangover

brisk trail
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For attacks doom. For cast hangover aka festive fog

modern grotto
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I meant the poison effect but yeah I agree festive fog is pretty good

brisk trail
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Ff is the best cast in the game probably even without the upgrades

modern grotto
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Yeah

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I can’t think of a situation where ff is bad

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Like in boss fights it does massive dmg and against enemies not only does it do massive dmg it also stuns em

hollow hawk
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Hangover scales insanely well with poms

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And there are good duos to go with hangover

modern grotto
hollow hawk
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Whereas doom has merciful end, which is probably the best duo in the game

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doom is pretty meh without ME or curse of longing i feel

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Whereas hangover can still work without duos

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then again, ares has some good tier twos for doom, like impending doom and dire misfortune

brisk trail
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But it's pretty good for payback damage.

hollow hawk
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Whereas dio's tier twos are pretty much garbage

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Oh yeah, revenge doom is pretty good

craggy barn
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FINALLY

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🎉 🎊🎊🎉🎉🎊

narrow hemlock
modern grotto
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What a chad

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How many hours did it take

craggy barn
brisk trail
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And every second was well-spent.

craggy barn
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i did 32 heat all weapons before this

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my priorities are wack

brisk trail
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I've played like 40 hours combined with my brother and we both feel exhausted wow

modern grotto
high island
craggy barn
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rare crop on boonless dusa

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deliberately getting a core boon you won't use and getting rare crop to rank it to heroic just to sell it

stoic violet
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I just did a run and learned that ||Beowulf|| Aegis is weird

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First time using it

high island
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I've played the game for 827.7 hours. A few of those were afk, though.

craggy barn
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beowulf good

stoic violet
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XD it's just odd to me for some reason....

craggy barn
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i assure you everyone in there will tell you beowulf is either super good or the best shield aspect without fail

stoic violet
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I died in Elysium, usually I get past there....

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Ill try it again if I gotta do some achievement later with it

carmine ravine
wild schooner
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Did they nerf aphros aid? It doesnt one shot theseus anymore

viral root
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Victory 2 achieved

hollow hawk
hollow hawk
carmine ravine
hollow hawk
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Oh i thought you misread spammy's message

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My bad

wild schooner
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Would hemes boons count in a boonless run?

grand crystal
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Anything from an Olympian count

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Chaos is the only one you can take

humble lotus
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Okay random idea hermes aid, it is just you littraly call in hermes and he runs up and basicaly does the flash's infite mass punch on an enemy

carmine ravine
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Dam funny

humble lotus
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The downside would be it only has 1 charge and takes the longest of any call

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But it deals damage equal to 2/3s of hade's health

wild schooner
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Random idea. Hypnos's aid. It turns off whatever you're playing on.

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You cant lose if you're not playing

humble lotus
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Oh i was being serius

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Basicaly the whole point would be a win condition strat where your whole goal becomes try to wait out building it up to basicaly gaurentee a win

stoic violet
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How does Aphrodite's Aid work? One charge doesn't really do much, but four will to a ton?

humble lotus
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Basicaly the whole point being kindof a guarneteed win at the cost of both not having a more consistant aid and requireing the ability to survive long enough to pull it off

wild schooner
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One charge charms, full charge kills

stoic violet
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@wild schooner thanks

wild schooner
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Np

brisk trail
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EM 4 Hades 1st attempt

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here we go

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i only have two dodges this time though

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any last second tips?

bronze flint
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No not really

brisk trail
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Wow, that was a lot easier than i had thought

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from what i had heard i thought the last phase would have eaten me alive

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i did lose 1 dd though during the second thanks to a pot i had thought i was far enough away from

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@vale drift The grinding in the game has divided steam reviews like the baldness has split your head into 2 hairy areas and the middle one left bald.

wild schooner
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Today i learned what happens when you get a pom with no boons

ornate dragon
wild schooner
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You get 325 coins. Which is funny cause i got 2 poms in styx for 300 coins

twin moat
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Bruh

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I'm trying to do a merciful end run

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And I've gotten 3 duo boons

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None of them is merciful end

ornate dragon
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Gut hood

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Gut good

twin moat
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😭

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ANOTHER ONE

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AND IT ISN'T MERCIFUL END

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WHAT IS THIS

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Okay

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F run

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I didn't get it

green dune
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If you turn off god mode on the last boss, are you taking normal damage?

ornate dragon
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You guys play with god mode

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How’s god mode gameplay?

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Can you do bounties with god mode or nah

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Or like heats

green dune
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@ornate dragon yes everything is the same except lower damage taken

ornate dragon
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Is there a cap to like the perks of god mode or does it climb infinitely

narrow hemlock
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80%

ornate dragon
narrow hemlock
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you can't be fully invulnerable because death is still important to gameplay

ornate dragon
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Is there a story quest for using god mods

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Mode

narrow hemlock
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No

green dune
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If you turn off god mode on the last boss, are you taking normal damage?

ornate dragon
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Probably

narrow hemlock
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God mode has zero affect on the game other than boost damage reduction

green dune
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Yay, I beat em4 normal damage taken then 🙂

acoustic quartz
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im gonna try keyboard only wish me luck

hasty owl
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yike how’s it going?

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i don’t think i could use keyboard bc movement would become so clunky w/o a joystick

brisk trail
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i've gotten pretty accustomed to it

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though asphodel can really be a pain sometimes

calm cypress
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okay I have a question

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Is Dusa, the Medusa?

brazen lagoon
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Yes

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Or maybe

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Maid-dusa

narrow hemlock
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there's no direct confirmation; it's mostly left to the players interpretation but ||there are some implications in the dialogue dusa may be medusa||

acoustic quartz
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by ok i mean better than i thought

hollow hawk
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theres an implication in the codex too

acoustic quartz
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but ive lost 2 dd and i just finished asphodel lmao

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the auto aim can be quite wonky at times tho

gray apex
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Sounds fun

twin moat
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I unlocked the fireplace nocturnal

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The satisfaction

acoustic quartz
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aight i won

brisk trail
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nice

gray apex
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👀

brisk trail
gray apex
acoustic quartz
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bruh

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honestly its not super different except for auto aim being wonky sometimes

brisk trail
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I do find it funny that I have the rail as my most cleared weapon

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even though i play only using m+kb

acoustic quartz
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whats wrong with that

brisk trail
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nothing, i just think it was rather fitting

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as the aiming using a mouse is better than the wasd keys are at moving

toxic perch
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i just unlocked guan yu

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and im confused

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does it have an innate cursed slash or what

acoustic quartz
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spin attack can give hp

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dont use guan yu until you max it

toxic perch
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oh is it that bad lol

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im already in run anyways

brisk trail
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guan level 1 is the best aspect in the game

gray apex
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The debuff is pretty bad yea

acoustic quartz
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its bad at base

brisk trail
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15 hp

acoustic quartz
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lmao\

brisk trail
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heal 3 from fountain

toxic perch
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i have 30 hp though but i have the mirror bonus

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3 from fountain

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what lmao

acoustic quartz
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yea the debuff

toxic perch
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i hope spin attack makes up to it

acoustic quartz
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is really bad

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spin attack

toxic perch
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only spin attack gives healing?

acoustic quartz
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leaves you vulnarable

gray apex
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Most people use Guan Yu for special

acoustic quartz
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yea

gray apex
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imagine spinning with Guan yu

acoustic quartz
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the special is really good

gray apex
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Couldnt be me

brisk trail
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the spin attack does heal a little

gray apex
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👀

acoustic quartz
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spinning with guan yu is only good if you have quick spin or smth

brisk trail
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but you really have to spend time to get back to full with it

acoustic quartz
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yea

toxic perch
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lmao it heals by 1

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im crying

gray apex
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lol

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Yea I hate Guan Yu

brisk trail
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but if you have stubborn defense and heightened security somebody demonstrated here that you get full god guage after stepping on a spike trap

toxic perch
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centaur heart gave 8 hp

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yikes

brisk trail
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I kind of like the chanciness of guan yu level 1

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it's not quite a no-hit run

toxic perch
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well im using butterfly

gray apex
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I was thinking Guan Yu would be my 32 heat spear

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Noped out of that real quick

brisk trail
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I see 32 heat referenced often, what's so special about it?

toxic perch
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its hot

gray apex
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8 16 and 32 heat are usually goals that people aim for because of the Skelly rewards

brisk trail
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ah, I see

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boy i hate jury summons but it feels like the easiest apart from EM and MM as long as im not playing for speed

toxic perch
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hey i enjoy jury summons

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... if im not wearing bow that is

gray apex
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Jury summons is like the heat I avoid the most lol

toxic perch
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so i just got pregnant by thanatos

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i hope we do that again

hollow hawk
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so is benefits package, and underworld customs

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jury summons only becomes hard when you take like td3 with it

calm cypress
brisk trail
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I might try those out

toxic perch
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i'd kneel before anyone doing the 5 min heat run with no mirror or any permanent buffs from home

gray apex
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Middle management also pretty straight forward after some practice

brazen lagoon
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Mirrorless TD3 doesn't seem too difficult

brisk trail
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yeah mm is almost free

toxic perch
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no i mean with no buff, the starting zagreus zagreus kind of no buff

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not even aspects

brazen lagoon
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Hmm

toxic perch
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jesus christ using guan yu is cancer

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ill just kill myself instead

toxic perch
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artemis is the most relatable god

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lmao

hasty owl
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achilles spear best spear

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guan yu bas

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d

toxic perch
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"how could you boy? that hydra had a family"

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proceeds to slaughter his boy once again

granite ether
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yo @toxic perch please don't evade the swear filter

toxic perch
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what

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i didnt say anything wrong there

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or tried to evade the filter

granite ether
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you added a letter to what was very clearly a swear

toxic perch
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wtf

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nvm im not gonna discuss i dont even remember what was the sentence

granite ether
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it was "No shirt (obviously replacing the actual word) Sherlock"

toxic perch
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english is confusing

granite ether
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yeah, I wholeheartedly agree with you on that one

strange plaza
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||I just fought charon and got my ass beat||

timber dove
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Just started my run, got a daedalus hammer, and got both cursed slash and cruel thrust off the bat

toxic perch
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easy

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cursed slash

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no doubt

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yolo sustain ftw

timber dove
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went with the other one, thing I should have gone cursed

toxic perch
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indeed you should have

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lmao i also got daedalus now

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and just started

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i sometimes wonder why the hell did i upgrade urns to contain gold

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because they never there when i need the most

acoustic quartz
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first time that happened to me i lost 2 DD

acoustic quartz
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its one of my faves for sword

toxic perch
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or you can pick cursed slash and dont care who hits who

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i have epic quick reload and just got greater recall

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lmao

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also have artemis cast

timber dove
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YESSSS!

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I got cursed slash on my second hammer!

gray apex
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goddamnit

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I can barely stand on my legs now

timber dove
gray apex
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Lost the 2 defiances on first phase, thought I was totally gone lol

toxic perch
gray apex
toxic perch
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im fighting heroes and i got no death incarnate at 100 hp

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yikes

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rip

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forgot about asterius blast wave

timber dove
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How are you guys able to post images?

half zephyr
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Image links

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Post image on Imgur or in your own server & then copy the image link & post that here

timber dove
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cool

toxic perch
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pray daedalus thus grant thy permission of imaginary articles

signal aspen
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what

toxic perch
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XD

timber dove
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this is my best run yet

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I still have the lucky tooth, not died yet

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I am gaining health with every hit

signal aspen
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is that it?

timber dove
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yep, hey 22nd run and doing better than ever

signal aspen
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oh ok

timber dove
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died 😦

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two bosses at once is a pain in the arse

signal aspen
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f

timber dove
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beaten them once so far, only the third time I have faced them

signal aspen
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i still feel like the heroes are the easiest boss in the game

timber dove
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bone hydra is a walk in the park

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if it wasn't for the bull that fight would be each

signal aspen
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it will get harder when you escape for the first time

toxic perch
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megeare is the easiest lmao

timber dove
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nah

toxic perch
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explain

timber dove
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I onlyt just beat her for the first time without dying once

toxic perch
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i dont even get hit with meg

timber dove
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she is hard

signal aspen
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i can beat the heroes in under a minute

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so

timber dove
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all those done chicks are hard

toxic perch
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meg is easy af

quartz garden
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heroes on EM3 are stronger than normal hades imo. Hydra is always easy to beat imo, even on EM2. Alekto is giving me a hard time sometimes. Imo Alekto > Meg > Tis. Tis pattern is so easy to get used to

signal aspen
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called em for a reason

toxic perch
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em?

signal aspen
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||heat||

toxic perch
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oh

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what

signal aspen
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hydra on em is annoying because of the lava

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but other than that it is easy

toxic perch
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asphodel itself is only hard because of lava

signal aspen
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i hate their mini bosses

quartz garden
signal aspen
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what

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mm?

quartz garden
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yes

signal aspen
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oh

quartz garden
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the stone and the head are painful

signal aspen
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yeah

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yep

toxic perch
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divine dash in that fight is butter on bread

signal aspen
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yeah but mm

weak kite
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is there going to be dlc?

granite ether
toxic perch
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i wonder if supetgiant is planning a new game for 2021

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probs not

teal yarrow
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If you watched NoClip Hades documentary , statements there indicates SG has a tendency of moving to new projects after they wrap everything up. Specifially this video.

https://youtu.be/WG4vg-WyjNw?t=3047

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So a DLC is not likely

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Sometimes you gotta let things go imo

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Hades is a great game as it is but it is also at a state it became real succesful monster that touching it furthermore might stain it

vapid narwhal
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new game yes 2021 hell no lol

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they launched Hades just a bit over a year after Pyre on Early Access because the previous one bombed

carmine ravine
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Pyre bombed?

teal yarrow
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No?

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87 percent positive

carmine ravine
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Ye so wats he talking abt

teal yarrow
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🤷‍♂️

vapid narwhal
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ofc not critically

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commercially it did not do well

teal yarrow
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Commercially Hades is an outlier

vapid narwhal
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Transistor and Bastion all did very well

teal yarrow
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Crazy successful for an indie game, like Valheim

vapid narwhal
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Bastion was the one of the poster children of XBLA

teal yarrow
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Being poster child != commercial hit

vapid narwhal
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meanwhile Pyre didnt even get a port to any other platform

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Bastion sold over 3M copies

teal yarrow
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Well, Pyre is available on Playstation

vapid narwhal
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it launched on PS4 and PC

teal yarrow
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Isn't that a different platform?

vapid narwhal
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then it did not get ported to any other platform

toxic perch
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yooo i just unlocked rama and its amazin g

signal aspen
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cool

vapid narwhal
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Rama IS amazing

toxic perch
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oh wow i can steal gold from charon

half zephyr
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heh

vapid narwhal
toxic perch
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send help

half zephyr
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have fun

vapid narwhal
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you are stuck with the boatman

half zephyr
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welcome to Erebus hehe

signal aspen
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oh no

toxic perch
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jesus christ he hits 70 70

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and tanky af

manic moat
half zephyr
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he got them arms

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from going up & down the styx

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you just can't see it cuz he's a skeleton

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Charon is fun

toxic perch
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damn i died

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he is easy if you dodge the blade swings tho

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definetly harder than hades

manic moat
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fr

cerulean ferry
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Yeah, if you learn his pattern he's easy

signal aspen
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yep

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i still think he is harder than hades

hollow hawk
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also dont fight him in tart

toxic perch
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i fought him in tart

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lmao

half zephyr
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I find the most difficult part of Charon fight to be when he summons the purple fires from everywhere

toxic perch
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purples are easy af to dodge

signal aspen
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yeah

hollow hawk
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your build is super weak in tart, and charon has the same amount of health that he would in, say, elysium

manic moat
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just go nyoom

half zephyr
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not when it covers my whole screen

hollow hawk
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nah purple orbs are easy

half zephyr
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every time I dodge it seems like I dodge into a new one hehe

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still a fun fight though

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and easy

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that's just the most difficult part for me

toxic perch
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i got his 2/3 health in tart

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do the math

cerulean ferry
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That's pretty close

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You gotta get him down to 1/4

half zephyr
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weren't you using Rama tho

toxic perch
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and i had hard labor on %100

toxic perch
hollow hawk
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why do you have hl5 wtf

toxic perch
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i am a masochist

hollow hawk
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turn on ap2 and ri4 too

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should be fun for ya

signal aspen
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bruh

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why hl5

toxic perch
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im a masochist

hollow hawk
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yeah

cerulean ferry
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You do you

toxic perch
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🥵

signal aspen
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bruh

half zephyr
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do you always have to do this

toxic perch
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wdym

craggy barn
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you know this isn't the nsfw server right

oblique sun
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keep it pg pls this make me uncomf

half zephyr
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this is a SFW server

toxic perch
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i didnt take it too nsfw too

hollow hawk
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youre literally describing nsfw stuff

signal aspen
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what

toxic perch
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wouldnt dare too

hollow hawk
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dude

half zephyr
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don't make us ping the mods

oblique sun
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Don't take it any close to nsfw

signal aspen
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bruh

hollow hawk
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read the room my guy

toxic perch
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is it really lol

hollow hawk
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read the room

oblique sun
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Yeah it's bad

signal aspen
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this is definitely nsfw

brazen lagoon
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why so many people down bad

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act like a normal person good lord

oblique sun
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You know when literally everyone tells you something maybe just maybe you're in the wrong

half zephyr
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you've even been told off by mods about it before

oblique sun
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And users

signal aspen
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also not everybody is into that

hollow hawk
signal aspen
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so stop

brazen lagoon
hollow hawk
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logic checks out

brazen lagoon
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i am always right

oblique sun
signal aspen
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yes

craggy barn
brazen lagoon
toxic perch
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i mean game itself is yaoi

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lol

brazen lagoon
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boy are they something else

brazen lagoon
half zephyr
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no it isn't

toxic perch
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thanatos and zagreus

brazen lagoon
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and meg?

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bro?

toxic perch
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without any ambrosia no

half zephyr
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it's BL at most

craggy barn
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oooo zag is straight if you only romance meg oooo

half zephyr
#

cuz nothing explicit actually happens on screen

oblique sun
#

It'It's sfw yaoi it doesn't even talk about nsdw

brazen lagoon
#

just because there's romance options doesnt give you the right to be horny buckaroo

oblique sun
#

Nsfw*

toxic perch
half zephyr
#

it's not

toxic perch
#

it is

#

yaoi is just +18

oblique sun
#

Romance/relationships/love =/= nsfw/lus

toxic perch
#

thats all

oblique sun
#

Lust*

signal aspen
#

why are we still talking about this

half zephyr
#

yes, and the game ISN'T

hollow hawk
#

@mods

#

just waiting

toxic perch
#

wait im not saying anything nsfw

brazen lagoon
#

there is one mod online rn

hollow hawk
#

youre discussing something that is clearly making a lot of people uncomfortable

craggy barn
#

you just said this game is yaoi and now you're being like "yaoi is 18+"

#

make up your mind

oblique sun
#

No yaoi is literally just- guyxguy- nothing nsfw in just the name "yaoi"-

hollow hawk
#

just close the discord app

#

and move on

oblique sun
#

Okay yeah good point let's move on

brazen lagoon
#

log out touch some grass

signal aspen
oblique sun
#

Zeus shield op

brazen lagoon
#

yes

craggy barn
#

can we switch topics

hollow hawk
#

nah beo is better

brazen lagoon
#

no

craggy barn
#

yeah zeus is fun

hollow hawk
#

beo is literally a nuke

#

shut up

oblique sun
#

Zag shield is best

hollow hawk
#

youre wrong

brazen lagoon
#

no

craggy barn
#

zeus and beo good

brazen lagoon
#

you are incorrect lol

hollow hawk
#

zag shield is also pretty good

oblique sun
#

all the shields!!!

toxic perch
#

chaos shield is zag shield but better

brazen lagoon
#

my opinion is the only correct opinion

hollow hawk
#

especially with pulv blow

#

every shield except chaos is good

#

oof

oblique sun
#

What does zag shield give?

signal aspen
#

all shield aspects are great

#

thats why i love shield

hollow hawk
#

+15 base dmg

oblique sun
#

Chaos is food

hollow hawk
#

on attack and special iirc

toxic perch
#

change my mind

craggy barn
#

all shield aspects are great at low heat

oblique sun
#

Not bad yeah

hollow hawk
#

it scales very well with arty attack and pulv blow

cerulean ferry
#

It all depends on preference

craggy barn
#

high heat is zeus shield and zeus shield only

oblique sun
#

Yeah all 4 are good imo

hollow hawk
#

beo and zeus are amazing at high heat

craggy barn
signal aspen
hollow hawk
#

beo has the most amount of unique clears in the high heat spreadsheet

#

think about it

oblique sun
#

All 24 aspects are good, depends on how you play and you prefer

hollow hawk
hollow hawk
signal aspen
#

i still think it is good

craggy barn
#

mfw chaos nerf 😔

hollow hawk
#

gilgamesh just sucks straight up :)

oblique sun
#

Not in high heats, paper

hollow hawk
#

im joking lol

oblique sun
#

I never specified high heat

hollow hawk
#

even gilga is fun

oblique sun
#

:)

hollow hawk
#

also tailesque and hadesprof have cleared 50 heat with all aspects

#

so

oblique sun
#

Yeah it'it's hard but can be fun

hollow hawk
#

proves the point

oblique sun
#

Dang

#

I guess if you'you're skilled enough you technically can do whatever challenge

hollow hawk
#

only two people in the world that've done that, so

#

yeah its pretty amazing

hollow hawk
#

it takes a lot of time

oblique sun
#

Ye

#

And luck

craggy barn
#

ap2 moment

uncut ore
#

oh no

#

I got a chaos debuff that gives me -3 hp whenever I use melee

#

and im entering theseus and asterius fight

hollow hawk
#

you picked it 🤷‍♂️

signal aspen
#

bruh

hollow hawk
#

shouldve thought it out

oblique sun
#

2 choices

uncut ore
#

I gotta use special the entire fight

oblique sun
#

-no attack
-attack and no hit

hollow hawk
#

note: it will only reduce your health to 1, it wont kill you

signal aspen
#

why would you pick it

uncut ore
hollow hawk
#

so, you could try doing a no hit heroes fight

uncut ore
#

well

#

I guess if im pathetically low I could use it

brazen lagoon
#

Why would you take that curse like ever

craggy barn
#

as long as you have 3 dds you're good 😎 👍

brazen lagoon
#

It's one of the worst curses to take

craggy barn
brazen lagoon
#

OK my bad

#

It is good actually

craggy barn
#

yeah

#

always take uhh what was it called again? flayed or something on fists you'll be fine 😎

brazen lagoon
#

Mhm

hollow hawk
#

nah i only take roiling curses

#

+80% enemies feels good

craggy barn
#

and totally won't immediately lose 2 dds in the next two chambers

oblique sun
#

It's not bad if you don't use attack mainly lpl

hollow hawk
#

i once took an attack curse when i was trying to do a beo speedrun

#

i dont know why

oblique sun
#

Because f u n

hollow hawk
#

i had high confidence and fo2 on

#

it was not fun

oblique sun
#

Sounds f u n

uncut ore
#

I WON

#

hell yeah

#

that took a while tho

#

0 dds lost too

oblique sun
#

Neat

#

What boss?- heroes?

#

Yeah heroes

uncut ore
#

2dds entering styx

signal aspen
#

you will be fine

uncut ore
#

bruh

#

I lost 16 times with gun already

#

im at 0 heat

signal aspen
#

bruh

oblique sun
#

Yeah 2 dds shouldn't be too bad especially with wells

uncut ore
#

and I literally never won with gun

hollow hawk
#

are you still using zag rail

oblique sun
#

O

#

Gun

uncut ore
hollow hawk
#

or are you using lvl 1 eris

half zephyr
#

use Eris

signal aspen
#

what aspect are you using?

hollow hawk
#

LMAO

uncut ore
hollow hawk
#

theyre still using zag

#

👏

uncut ore
#

vs zag lbl 5

half zephyr
#

that's still better then zag lvl 5

hollow hawk
#

in their eyes it isnt

#

for some reason

oblique sun
#

Zag rail is kinda just bad

hollow hawk
#

but oh well

oblique sun
#

Paper what's worse gilga or zagrail

signal aspen
half zephyr
#

oh wait

#

I forgot who this was

uncut ore
#

I have a hammer upgrade that does -6 ammo so like

#

honestly zag lvl 5 might be better than eris lvl 1 in this build

signal aspen
#

f

uncut ore
#

I have very bad luck

signal aspen
#

i need more information than that

half zephyr
#

you gotta focus

#

on getting a duo

oblique sun
#

I'm used to reloading before it,'s empty (usually after I kill an enemy or I can't shoot/aim properly) so extra ammo isn't all that big for me

signal aspen
#

that tells me nothing about your build

half zephyr
#

and then get more stuff after

uncut ore
half zephyr
#

if you want duos

uncut ore
#

I dont have athena dash

oblique sun
#

What's on attack what's on special or screenshot it and dm it

uncut ore
#

I have zeus on my melee

signal aspen
#

melee

uncut ore
#

spread fire and triple bomb as hammers

uncut ore
half zephyr
signal aspen
half zephyr
#

the auto-reload happens too fast

uncut ore
#

I got -90% trap dmg which is gonna be hella useful in styx

signal aspen
#

kinda weird how you called it melee

uncut ore
#

poison is considered a trap right?

signal aspen
#

no

half zephyr
#

no

uncut ore
#

...

#

well

half zephyr
#

poison is poison

#

not a trap

#

the traps be the flying discs & the blades dropping from the sky

craggy barn
#

i mean the saws are traps and they do pretty fat damage

#

and jars in the hades fight are too

half zephyr
#

yes, but that doesn't change the fact that poison isn't a trap hehe

signal aspen
#

yes

uncut ore
#

damn the little thing that shoots bombs and has tons of hp is really bothering me

signal aspen
#

bruh

#

"have you ever tried moving out of the way"

uncut ore
#

lmao its name is bother

#

thats perfect

#

the metal can

#

that shoots bombs

signal aspen
#

metal trash can

uncut ore
signal aspen
#

yeah... but have you ever tried moving out of the way

uncut ore
#

holy I have such bad rng

#

but ok

#

gonna go fight hades now

#

0 dds

signal aspen
#

how did you lose 2 dds in styx

uncut ore
#

but aleast I belive in myself

uncut ore
signal aspen
#

yeah but how

toxic perch
#

Olympians : exists

uncut ore
#

I lost all my hp twice

toxic perch
#

Theseus : its free real estate

signal aspen
#

i feel like you stole that meme

toxic perch
#

i didn't but okay

signal aspen
#

cool

toxic perch
#

also its an obvious one

brazen lagoon
#

🥱

signal aspen
toxic perch
#

xd

signal aspen
#

bruh

#

XD but not capitalized

#

kinda weird

toxic perch
#

xd and XD is like lol and lmfao

#

xd is lol and XD is lmfao

half zephyr
#

xd is someone licking their nose

toxic perch
#

what

signal aspen
#

xd looks like somebody is dying

brisk trail
#

idk i always say xD

brazen lagoon
#

I use xd becausd I cannot be bothered to capitalize the d or the x

half zephyr
#

aah, artiesimp!

brazen lagoon
#

Ello

half zephyr
#

wish me luck with my movies today!
May they not cut off in the middle once more

brazen lagoon
#

May your movies flow seamlessly like the flow of a river

#

Or something like that

half zephyr
#

ty

uncut ore
#

nooo

#

I died

toxic perch
#

don't worry you don't have to pay debts now

brisk trail
#

funny build btw, poseidons dash thing and then everything that enhaces the dash damage like rupture and stuff, you just kill everything by dashing around

dire dagger
#

man i just love how discord doesn't have an exact search, and decided that when i search for randomizers i want to know all mentions of "random"...

brazen lagoon
#

Poseidon dash only with all t2 boons 👌 👌

uncut ore
#

wtf when orpheus sings he sounds WAY different then when he talks

oblique sun
uncut ore
#

is it 2 different VAs?

oblique sun
#

Yeah

half zephyr
#

darren sings

oblique sun
#

Singing voice is Darren korb

#

Darren Korby

#

Darren is kirby,,

brisk trail
#

Darren is helluva guy, i love the VA on zagreus

half zephyr
#

so it's Zagreus/Skelly singing

oblique sun
#

Yeah

half zephyr
oblique sun
#

Z: "Don't change the subject!"
S: "Don't change the subject!"

#

It feels weird to think that he'd have to do the same line twice with different voices

#

Also him arguing with himself

dire dagger
#

feels like rick and morty knowing about that

oblique sun
#

?

brisk trail
#

rick and morty are both voiced by Dan Harmon

dire dagger
#

^

uncut ore
#

I got arthur now

brisk trail
oblique sun
#

Oh okay

uncut ore
#

wow now the only 2 aspects im missing

oblique sun
#

I never watched ram

uncut ore
#

are bow and fist

oblique sun
#

Bow from ||arty|| and fists from ||minos|| but you also need him to comment about how ur fighting bare-fisted first so you need to have fists while fighting him at least once.

brisk trail
#

this is hades discussion spoilers are allowed here ;p

#

dejavu 😛

mystic sphinx
#

cool

#

what do i do when im at the top?

#

ike in the snow?

brisk trail
#

Left to which hades spawned theres a pathway

#

then just keep going

oblique sun
#

Spoilers are allowed but I can still spoiler tag in case if they wanna find out for themselves

brisk trail
#

i just said that bcs u said that to me like 2 days ago ..

oblique sun
#

Oh did you just beat hades first time?

#

Yeye sorry

uncut ore
#

16 gun attempts

mystic sphinx
#

i went to where the sunrise is but idk where to go now 😛

dire dagger
#

just go right

signal aspen
brisk trail
#

you cant really go wrong you jsut have to follow the path

uncut ore
#

maybe even of this entire game I mean

#

I finished it

#

I beat hades

#

what am I even doing now lmao

signal aspen
#

good

brisk trail
#

well how often did u beat hades ?

oblique sun
#

SM just don't use zag rail

#

Others are good

uncut ore
#

btw now I got 2 extra titan blood so I can get eris lvl 2

brazen lagoon
#

Have you tried getting good

raw herald
uncut ore
#

oh wait

brisk trail
brazen lagoon
#

Hm something got deleted

signal aspen
#

ha

uncut ore
oblique sun
#

I don't find shotgun that good-

brazen lagoon
uncut ore
signal aspen
brisk trail
#

ye shotgun felt like worse fists

uncut ore
raw herald
signal aspen
#

artemis attack and a bunch of dashes and dash attack boons

brisk trail
#

makes sense

oblique sun
uncut ore
#

anyways im gonna stop playing today

#

I have like 100 hours

signal aspen
#

how do you have 100 hours in one day

oblique sun
#

Damn 100 hours just today???

signal aspen
#

lmao

oblique sun
#

Same braincell

signal aspen
#

apes together strong

oblique sun
#

Mom said it's my turn on the braincell :(

brazen lagoon
#

No

#

My turn

oblique sun
#

Nooo moooom

brisk trail
#

oh btw the thanatos encounter, am i supposed to let him win or anything ? because it seems way 2 easy to win against him, like is there any dailog thats worth it ?

oblique sun
#

I don't think so

#

Just win for centaur heart

#

If you have something slow it can be hard to win

#

Like shield & ur not good at shield

#

But otherwise it's just a free centaur heart

brisk trail
#

idk never lost t ohim so far, but didnt encounter him with shield so ye i can imagine

tight cave
#

Can also be hard to win in Elysium with some enemies having the extra soul form

oblique sun
#

Try to win with thanatos getting 0 kills :P

brisk trail
#

did alreay

signal aspen
brisk trail
#

with rail

oblique sun
#

Dang it, ,

brisk trail
#

and lightning attack

#

also had delta chamber i think

#

so i just dashed around and killed everything before he had a chance

oblique sun
#

Lol

#

Robbed thanatos

brisk trail
#

kinda 😛

oblique sun
#

That's literzlly the title you get at the end of the game if he gets 0 kills :p

brisk trail
#

oh xD

oblique sun
#

The run clear message

brisk trail
#

didnt notice

#

btw does anyone know numbers wise if delta chamber and the equivalent on igenus eden where you dont have to reload is worth it damage wise ? i hate reloading

oblique sun
#

Eternal chamber is bad if you don't have stuff that doesn'doesn't care about ramping (ares dionysius zeus)

signal aspen
#

delta chamber doesnt reduce the damage

#

but it will reduce the dps

oblique sun
#

Delta chamber is good altho imo others are better

half zephyr
#

I think the only time I've manually reloaded was in the outer chamber w skelly to get rid of the banner on the side telling me to do stuff

brisk trail
#

i know it doesnt reduce the hit damage but ye dps

half zephyr
#

haven't done Hestia aspect yet

oblique sun
#

It's not all too bad if you dislike reloading

#

Although here's a tip for reloading

signal aspen
#

also if you have enough dashes delta chamber acts like normal rail with no reload

oblique sun
#

If you,ré on 0 ammo and press special it also starts reloading

brisk trail
#

ye i figured that out

quartz garden
#

which button do you use for reloading? I play on the switch and I had to rebind it to the left trigger, pressing the sticks takes too long and is uncomfortable imo

brisk trail
#

but sometimes im 2 lazy to use special aswell xD

oblique sun
#

I'm on kbm

brisk trail
#

using ps4 controller

oblique sun
#

In that case aquos just attack and it'll reload lol

brisk trail
#

now thats where the real problem is

#

when u keep attacking

oblique sun
#

The manual reload is best used when you're not empty

quartz garden
#

which button do you use to reload then?

brisk trail
#

with 0 ammo he'll just try to shot anyways, so you have to stop pressing the attack button

oblique sun
#

Yeah

#

I use R to reload on kb

brisk trail
dire dagger
#

i just press the stick with my xbox controller

brisk trail
#

doesn't dashing also reload if you're empty

#

nope

signal aspen
#

no

brisk trail
#

since dashing doesnt stop attacking

oblique sun
#

Don't think so

signal aspen
#

but your gun will automatically reload

#

whenever you run out of ammo

brisk trail
#

no if you keep pressing the attack button

#

it makes the sound of shooting an empty gun and it keeps doing that untill u relaese the trigger

oblique sun
#

Only if you attack again by letting go of button and pressing it again

quartz garden
#

alright. I did 1 run on hestia and had to change the reload button from stick to L1. The aspect is unplayable with reload on stick for me. I noticed I had less trouble reloading on the other aspects as well after rebinding it.

brisk trail
#

i dislike reloading so im not even going to try an aspect revolved around reloading

signal aspen
#

you should get used to shooting a bomb out while reloading

brisk trail
#

doing that already, if im reloading at all, but i dont think the bombs damage justifies using it at all so when i have delta chamber i usually stop using bombs at all ofc if theres big aoe ill press it

signal aspen
#

what boons do you put on bombs?

quartz garden
#

You dislike it because it‘s bind to your left stick, I promise. Give it a shot, it felt much better for me

brisk trail
#

well i usually avoid bomb boons xD

signal aspen
#

well stop that

#

give it a try with artemis

brisk trail
#

nono thats def not it i use the left stick much and im comfrtable with it

signal aspen
#

or aphro

brisk trail
#

in monster hunter world i use it for running for example

#

will do japanese guy

signal aspen
#

no

#

chinese

brisk trail
#

whoops

#

my bad

signal aspen
#

its ok

#

they are pretty similar

brisk trail
#

ye but still sorry

#

what does your name mean ?

signal aspen
#

it is my chinese name

#

yuan zhi hong

brisk trail
#

aight cool

#

but ye i can see bobms doing good damage with boons that compliment them and i have no problem mechanic wise to reload and throw bombs, but i just prefer stacking my normal attack boons and doing it this way , ofc i dont know if that will work in high heats as im only on heat 5 so far

craggy barn
#

bombs can very much deal big damage

#

cough cluster rockets cough

signal aspen
#

hazard bomb

craggy barn
#

hazard bomb + deadly flourish residentzag

brisk trail
#

if i see delta chamber i gotta take it, next time i find 2 hammers ill give one of those a try

#

cluster rockets is beautiful with poseidon or aphro

craggy barn
#

why poseidon

signal aspen
#

sea storm can be good

#

i havent tried it yet

craggy barn
#

wouldn't the enemy just get knocked back from the explosions

brisk trail
#

so you can fling the enemy off of the screen

signal aspen
#

if somebody ever mentions poseidon just assume that they are making a sea storm build

brisk trail
#

and probably into a wall

craggy barn
#

poseidon builds always go for seastorm

brisk trail
#

i just used the aspect of hera today for the first time, i had dionysos's cast and got a duo boon where festive fog contains thunderbolts, that was sick

craggy barn
#

in the same way that artemis builds always go for heart rend

signal aspen
#

yep

craggy barn
#

scint feast is pog

weak spruce
#

it's taking forever to fully unlock all aspects

craggy barn
#

especially if you get zeus' t2 boons, static discharge and double strike are what you mainly want out of scint

weak spruce
#

wonder if I should cheat for tb

signal aspen
#

wdym cheat

weak spruce
#

cheat engine or sth

craggy barn
#

just do more heats

signal aspen
#

oh

#

its not that hard

weak spruce
#

I already have 100+ runs

signal aspen
#

just kill yourself until you get the waking phrase

#

thats what i did

#

unlocked all of them in one day

craggy barn
#

if you're struggling to deal with the gradually higher heats using your favourite weapons, you should look into changing your pacts into something that might be easier or switching to a different weapon since heat levels aren't shared between weapons

weak spruce
#

no no I have no problem with high heats

#

I completed all weapons at 32 heat

#

it's just taking 4ever to get all the tbs needed

#

kinda impatient

#

oh well

#

my fault was farming for darkness, I ran many non-heat runs for that

#

I mean who cares about ranks

#

I did

craggy barn
#

were you seriously gonna try to get the final badge?

weak spruce
#

yea

#

then I saw that you need around 600+ runs

#

that's when I stopped doing that

half zephyr
#

You need 300k darkness

#

For final badge hehe

weak spruce
half zephyr
#

The badge is the post end resource sink

#

So you have something to do with the stuff you get from runs

#

Blood is easy to get

craggy barn
#

325k darkness

amber kraken
#

I had an idea. I got Skelly as a companion and according to this he acts like a distraction. And I unlocked the sword hidden aspect. Could its special attack which seems to increase your defense work on skelly as well?

signal aspen
#

uh

#

no

#

probably not

craggy barn
#

i do know damage reduction sort of works on skelly

brisk trail
#

but still the projectiles are slower in that and he would survive longer against ranged enemies

craggy barn
#

if you apply weak to an enemy and they attack skelly, skelly takes less damage

amber kraken
#

okay

#

Im just trying to be creative

signal aspen
#

im not that creative

weak spruce
#

that is pretty creative yes

signal aspen
#

i just steal my builds

#

most of my builds come from haelian

brisk trail
#

i just take what suits me the best

weak spruce
#

I usually go for the exact same builds

brisk trail
#

thats not how rng is supposed to work

weak spruce
#

yea it doesn't always work due to rng

#

so I just take whatever suits me best

#

but for example, for attack I always go aphro, artemis or zeus

#

I don't remember picking dio attack ever except for the fated list

signal aspen
#

yeah same

#

thats how i used to be

#

but now most of my builds need duos or legendaries

brisk trail
#

i only got 1 legendary so far, which increased fishing spots..

weak spruce
#

that's fixed

brisk trail
#

which probably was a story event also

#

ye i guessed so

weak spruce
#

yep

#

it's cuz you need spesific boons for legendaries and unless you aim for it

#

the chances you are gonna get it is pretty low

brisk trail
#

oh ok, i knew thats how duo's worked

signal aspen
#

i only need athenas legendary

weak spruce
#

if you have the boon list

brisk trail
#

but i thought legendarys are their own entitys

weak spruce
#

you can check which ones you need and which ones you have

#

from the god list

brisk trail
#

the 1 dash mirror upgrade has really grown on me

signal aspen
#

bruh

brisk trail
#

try using fist hidden aspect

ornate dragon
#

Any fist builds

signal aspen
#

i want to make a dash only build

weak spruce
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